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AlecTaylorhi04:12
AlecTaylorHow stable is 12.10?04:13
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AlecTaylorHow stable is 12.10?05:03
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BluesKajHiyas all12:19
MrChrisDruifAloha BluesKaj12:28
BluesKajhey MrChrisDruif12:30
MrChrisDruifHow's it going?12:30
BluesKajgood , how about you?12:30
MrChrisDruifGot a bit of a cold, slept about 11 hours, still feel like crap12:31
MrChrisDruifAnd dist-upgrade/Partial Update wants me to remove gnome-shell-extensions...and I don't think there is an alternative package for it's place12:32
BluesKajMrChrisDruif, it should reinstall after the upgrade if you run it after loging in ..that was my experience12:35
MrChrisDruifAlright, I wanted to make sure it's installable afterwards, I don't want an "update" to break it completely down for me! =P12:35
BluesKajof course that was few weeks ago on unity , I've since switched back to kde12:35
MrChrisDruifI'll just check if gnome-shell or gnome-shell-common have integrated it12:37
BluesKajI received that notice at the tty after having to the recovery kernel12:37
BluesKajuse12:37
BluesKajI can't say for sure that you won't have the gnome-shell-extensions removed permanenetly12:39
MrChrisDruifWhat is dislike about Software Updater or dist-upgrade is that it doesn't mention WHY something has to be removed12:42
yeatsMrChrisDruif: you can do 'apt-cache showpkg <packagename>' to view a package's dependencies which would probably show why12:44
MrChrisDruifI think this is what I should look at, but I can't make heads or tails out of it; Dependencies: 3.4.0-0ubuntu1 - dconf-gsettings-backend (16 (null)) gsettings-backend (0 (null)) gnome-shell (2 3.4) gnome-shell (3 3.5) gir1.2-gtop-2.0 (0 (null))12:46
MrChrisDruifFor example, what is this section about: gnome-shell (2 3.4) gnome-shell (3 3.5)13:04
bjsniderMrChrisDruif, they probably are incompatible with a newer version of gnome-shell that you're being prompted to upgrade13:31
bjsniderthey still haven't settled on a stable api, so any version change breaks the extensions13:31
MrChrisDruifIt wants to upgrade to 3.5.3 ;-)13:32
bjsniderany major.minor change, not a patch change13:32
bjsniderfrom 3.4?13:32
MrChrisDruifYup, 3.4.1 to 3.5.313:39
bjsniderso that is a change in the minor verion, and that will break the extensions13:42
bjsniderin other words, they wouldn't work even if the package was left in place13:43
bjsniderso it's no trouble to remove them13:43
jbichaalso, the Debian GNOME packaging forces rebuilds when the major version changes, from 3.4 to 3.513:47
jbichaI just uploaded a rebuild, so it should be fixed soon13:48
MrChrisDruifAlright, so if I wait a bit longer it'll get fixed properly again? Great =)13:49
bjsnideri still don't know if they'll all run, because they may have made api changes13:50
nperryHmm I'm confused.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/netcfg however when I aptitude search netcfg it returns nothing :s13:50
jbichabjsnider: oh that's probably a good point, I don't use the extensions13:54
bjsniderhttp://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions13:56
jbichathe gnome-shell-extensions developers don't bother releasing tarballs any more :(14:28
M1now that I got them graphics drivers installed, quantal is looking pretty good15:51
BluesKajI've been receiving a "java not installed" or "upgrade to newest java" message firefox14 , is this common ?19:04
BluesKajon firefox 1419:04
micahgBluesKaj: that should be a bug19:07
micahgunless you're running the sun java19:07
BluesKajmicahg, just checked synaptic , java-common isn't installed19:08
micahgBluesKaj: do you have icedtea6 or icedtea7 installed?19:09
BluesKajlooking19:09
BluesKajneither19:10
BluesKajmicahg,^19:10
BluesKajwhat's included in restricted-extras ?19:11
micahgicedtea-6-plugin or icedtea-7-plugin19:11
micahgneither is included in thre19:11
micahg*there19:12
BluesKajyeah , no java at all from the description19:13
micahghrm, it shouldn't be telling you anything about Java then19:15
micahgoh, right, it's not installed, makes sense :)19:15
micahgit should offer to install it19:15
litropyHi, peeps. It looks like the same thing that happened for precise is now happening in quantal. Essentially, "Catalyst has not been updated to work with recent kernels." A workaround for precise was posted before the issue for precise was patched: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196982721:39
litropyI'm just looking to get the steps updated for quantal21:40
litropyNow, there's Catalyt 12.6 as opposed to Catalyst 12.4: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Catalyst_12.621:41
litropyI updated the code from the above ubuntuforums link, see paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075519/21:46
litropyPlease take a look and get back to me - I can't load X, and I imagine others can't, either. I'm ready to test with your guidance.21:47
litropyAnother thing ... I really complicated the issue by dist-upgrade'ing. Something is going on with python, to the point where I can't even patebinit.21:48
litropyI'll try to work around that.21:48
litropypastebinit*21:48
litropywhoops, I forgot to identify. Did my messages show up? Not sure as to this chan's rules.21:51
litropyNot to be overly meta, but just in case I was silenced, here's a paste of what I said: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075532/21:53
trismlitropy: yes your messages showed up21:54
litropyah, tx trism21:54
litropyI just fixed a couple of errors in what I edited: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075539/21:56
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