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AlecTaylor | hi | 04:12 |
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AlecTaylor | How stable is 12.10? | 04:13 |
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AlecTaylor | How stable is 12.10? | 05:03 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:19 |
MrChrisDruif | Aloha BluesKaj | 12:28 |
BluesKaj | hey MrChrisDruif | 12:30 |
MrChrisDruif | How's it going? | 12:30 |
BluesKaj | good , how about you? | 12:30 |
MrChrisDruif | Got a bit of a cold, slept about 11 hours, still feel like crap | 12:31 |
MrChrisDruif | And dist-upgrade/Partial Update wants me to remove gnome-shell-extensions...and I don't think there is an alternative package for it's place | 12:32 |
BluesKaj | MrChrisDruif, it should reinstall after the upgrade if you run it after loging in ..that was my experience | 12:35 |
MrChrisDruif | Alright, I wanted to make sure it's installable afterwards, I don't want an "update" to break it completely down for me! =P | 12:35 |
BluesKaj | of course that was few weeks ago on unity , I've since switched back to kde | 12:35 |
MrChrisDruif | I'll just check if gnome-shell or gnome-shell-common have integrated it | 12:37 |
BluesKaj | I received that notice at the tty after having to the recovery kernel | 12:37 |
BluesKaj | use | 12:37 |
BluesKaj | I can't say for sure that you won't have the gnome-shell-extensions removed permanenetly | 12:39 |
MrChrisDruif | What is dislike about Software Updater or dist-upgrade is that it doesn't mention WHY something has to be removed | 12:42 |
yeats | MrChrisDruif: you can do 'apt-cache showpkg <packagename>' to view a package's dependencies which would probably show why | 12:44 |
MrChrisDruif | I think this is what I should look at, but I can't make heads or tails out of it; Dependencies: 3.4.0-0ubuntu1 - dconf-gsettings-backend (16 (null)) gsettings-backend (0 (null)) gnome-shell (2 3.4) gnome-shell (3 3.5) gir1.2-gtop-2.0 (0 (null)) | 12:46 |
MrChrisDruif | For example, what is this section about: gnome-shell (2 3.4) gnome-shell (3 3.5) | 13:04 |
bjsnider | MrChrisDruif, they probably are incompatible with a newer version of gnome-shell that you're being prompted to upgrade | 13:31 |
bjsnider | they still haven't settled on a stable api, so any version change breaks the extensions | 13:31 |
MrChrisDruif | It wants to upgrade to 3.5.3 ;-) | 13:32 |
bjsnider | any major.minor change, not a patch change | 13:32 |
bjsnider | from 3.4? | 13:32 |
MrChrisDruif | Yup, 3.4.1 to 3.5.3 | 13:39 |
bjsnider | so that is a change in the minor verion, and that will break the extensions | 13:42 |
bjsnider | in other words, they wouldn't work even if the package was left in place | 13:43 |
bjsnider | so it's no trouble to remove them | 13:43 |
jbicha | also, the Debian GNOME packaging forces rebuilds when the major version changes, from 3.4 to 3.5 | 13:47 |
jbicha | I just uploaded a rebuild, so it should be fixed soon | 13:48 |
MrChrisDruif | Alright, so if I wait a bit longer it'll get fixed properly again? Great =) | 13:49 |
bjsnider | i still don't know if they'll all run, because they may have made api changes | 13:50 |
nperry | Hmm I'm confused.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/netcfg however when I aptitude search netcfg it returns nothing :s | 13:50 |
jbicha | bjsnider: oh that's probably a good point, I don't use the extensions | 13:54 |
bjsnider | http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions | 13:56 |
jbicha | the gnome-shell-extensions developers don't bother releasing tarballs any more :( | 14:28 |
M1 | now that I got them graphics drivers installed, quantal is looking pretty good | 15:51 |
BluesKaj | I've been receiving a "java not installed" or "upgrade to newest java" message firefox14 , is this common ? | 19:04 |
BluesKaj | on firefox 14 | 19:04 |
micahg | BluesKaj: that should be a bug | 19:07 |
micahg | unless you're running the sun java | 19:07 |
BluesKaj | micahg, just checked synaptic , java-common isn't installed | 19:08 |
micahg | BluesKaj: do you have icedtea6 or icedtea7 installed? | 19:09 |
BluesKaj | looking | 19:09 |
BluesKaj | neither | 19:10 |
BluesKaj | micahg,^ | 19:10 |
BluesKaj | what's included in restricted-extras ? | 19:11 |
micahg | icedtea-6-plugin or icedtea-7-plugin | 19:11 |
micahg | neither is included in thre | 19:11 |
micahg | *there | 19:12 |
BluesKaj | yeah , no java at all from the description | 19:13 |
micahg | hrm, it shouldn't be telling you anything about Java then | 19:15 |
micahg | oh, right, it's not installed, makes sense :) | 19:15 |
micahg | it should offer to install it | 19:15 |
litropy | Hi, peeps. It looks like the same thing that happened for precise is now happening in quantal. Essentially, "Catalyst has not been updated to work with recent kernels." A workaround for precise was posted before the issue for precise was patched: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969827 | 21:39 |
litropy | I'm just looking to get the steps updated for quantal | 21:40 |
litropy | Now, there's Catalyt 12.6 as opposed to Catalyst 12.4: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Catalyst_12.6 | 21:41 |
litropy | I updated the code from the above ubuntuforums link, see paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075519/ | 21:46 |
litropy | Please take a look and get back to me - I can't load X, and I imagine others can't, either. I'm ready to test with your guidance. | 21:47 |
litropy | Another thing ... I really complicated the issue by dist-upgrade'ing. Something is going on with python, to the point where I can't even patebinit. | 21:48 |
litropy | I'll try to work around that. | 21:48 |
litropy | pastebinit* | 21:48 |
litropy | whoops, I forgot to identify. Did my messages show up? Not sure as to this chan's rules. | 21:51 |
litropy | Not to be overly meta, but just in case I was silenced, here's a paste of what I said: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075532/ | 21:53 |
trism | litropy: yes your messages showed up | 21:54 |
litropy | ah, tx trism | 21:54 |
litropy | I just fixed a couple of errors in what I edited: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1075539/ | 21:56 |
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