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misterehello04:49
john__Hi all , I installed the proprietary amd  driver and i have the catalyst control center and can make changes there but the proprietary driver driver button still says that its not active is this a bug or do i still need to do something else?10:54
john__lol ok this is the quietest chat room with 56 people in it i have ever seen so how about somebody say something just so i will know this is working11:06
geirhasomething11:07
john__ty11:07
geirhaanyway, hard to say. The proprietary amd drivers have always been a pita, and has never really been working 100%11:08
john__well i figured that since i was able to make changes through their panel that it just did not report back as installed correctly11:10
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john__thanx geirha cya11:14
Guest10901hi, my ubuntu 12.04 doesnt recognize my wireless usb broadband gsm network,   but on my 10.04 it notices it and connects to it    - how might i overcome this?11:58
Jaybird_oh lol now I am somewhere else16:35
msammelsHey :P16:35
msammelsOK - so explain here, your problem please.16:35
Jaybird_hey!!!:)16:36
msammelsAlso, you should have tabs to switch between both rooms16:36
Jaybird_No that is what I keep saying.  I don't have a problem but Ubuntu is new to me and it took time and posting a zillion times on the forums to set up things16:36
msammelsOK. So what do you need help with doing first? :)16:37
Jaybird_so I thought checking in here might give me other tips etc16:37
msammelsOK, well any questions, ask here, forums, anywhere :D16:37
Jaybird_ok16:37
Jaybird_thanks it all seems very friendly16:37
Jaybird_I had not even heard of Ubuntu till a few weeks ago then sent for a disk and my dead acer revived....16:38
msammelsAh, you bought it? :)16:39
Jaybird_I have the server disk and so think that is the next thing as it would be useful16:39
Jaybird_well I did try to download but never managed to make the disks work16:39
msammelsHaha, uhm :P you're running Ubuntu without a DE?16:39
Jaybird_Probably will need help with that16:39
msammels(Desktop Environment)16:39
Jaybird_er...what is that I do have a desktop16:40
Jaybird_!16:40
msammelsWell, here's what I want you to do: I want to organise your thoughts, figure out what you want to do and then ask. And if you have a desktop like icons, and stuff, then you have a desktop environment :) It's just when you mentioned server.16:40
Jaybird_I assume it has all the things I want on one side of it...lol next thing is to unattach them16:40
Jaybird_ah the server disk that comes with Ubunto16:40
Jaybird_u16:40
Jaybird_The package came with three x12.4 and one server disk16:41
Jaybird_trying to find it under the muddle here16:41
msammelsAh OK :)16:42
Jaybird_I actually had to look up what a server did...told you was a muppet at these things16:42
Jaybird_but now I know it would be very useful16:43
Jaybird_I did load it in once16:43
Jaybird_so it may already be installed16:43
Jaybird_maybe not something says NVIDA server settings but I thought that was to do with graphics16:44
msammelsnVidia Server Settings is graphics, use16:44
msammelsYou can access like so:16:44
msammelssudo nvidia-settings16:45
Jaybird_oh yes the fascinating terminal thingy16:45
msammelsBe careful with that "terminal thingy" :P16:46
msammelsYou can destroy an entire install...16:46
Jaybird_brings up a window with x server display configuration16:47
Jaybird_oh dear really?16:47
Jaybird_I will then16:47
Jaybird_I am not sure having got that window what I would do with it16:47
msammelsAh, great, so you do have a GUI. Established. This window allows you to change your screen resolution, and other advanced stuff like check the temperature of your graphics card, etc.16:48
Jaybird_ah...thinkI better be careful with that16:48
Jaybird_I do so love to find out what things do16:48
Jaybird_so please explain what GUI stands for ..graphics something interface?16:49
msammelsGraphical User Interface. It's the same as Desktop Environment. Any icon or menu you see (pictures) is a GUI or a DE :)16:49
Jaybird_Ah that makes sense. It all does when you know....16:50
msammelsHaha, mate don't worry. Back in '06 I knew nothing about Linux.16:50
msammelsDidn't even know it existed :P16:50
Jaybird_rofl lol mate (this ubuntu user is female )16:50
msammelsOops... hello ma'am :P16:51
Jaybird_lol so you have to be in the states16:51
msammelsNope16:51
Jaybird_nobody says ma'am here16:51
Jaybird_UK16:51
msammelsI'm from sunny, terribly rainy Scotland.16:51
Jaybird_ah yes well ok they do speak a bit different up there but I do have a little Scottish blood16:52
msammelsGlad to hear it :P16:52
Jaybird_Granny was a Lumley and told me there was even a tartan16:52
msammelsHey geekosopher16:52
msammelsI have tartan blood.16:52
Jaybird_oh i wish i could find the disk16:52
Jaybird_hello16:52
msammelsIt's red and blue :P16:52
Jaybird_haha16:52
Jaybird_ah got it. It says server 12.04 LTS16:53
Jaybird_Is it safe to try and put it into the laptop?16:53
msammelsWell, you can, but you won't have any pretty menus it's all going to be text.16:54
Jaybird_I will live!16:54
Jaybird_OK put it in but what will it do?16:54
msammelsIt will pretty much blank your entire hard drive. Note: you will need to know how to deal with text based interfaces to install it.16:54
Jaybird_eek16:55
Jaybird_so I would lose all the stuff I put in now?16:55
Jaybird_Just took it out in fright16:55
msammelsI'm confused: what is on your laptop?16:55
Jaybird_acer16:55
Jaybird_6930g16:55
Jaybird_notebook16:55
msammelsYes, but what operating system? Is it Windows?16:56
Jaybird_no Ubuntu...Windows died- as it does on most acers as far as I can  make out16:56
msammelsOK. And does this Ubuntu have pretty pictures and wallpaper and stuff?16:56
holsteini would confirm the OS died and not the hard drive... linux is not magic16:57
Jaybird_they expect you to make your own restore disk but nobody I know ever managed then want to charge you £50 when you tell them16:57
holsteinubuntu is free to download and try live16:57
msammelsTrue. jaybird does your laptop have a wallpaper and menus and stuff, or is it all text?16:57
Jaybird_well the HD cannot be dead if I am here?16:57
Jaybird_It has wallpaper and menus and stuff16:57
holsteinJaybird_: only testing will confirm16:58
Jaybird_lol16:58
msammelsMay I make a suggestion? If you have pretty menus, wallpapers and so one: do not install the server edition16:58
msammelsIt will wipe the current install and throw you off16:58
Jaybird_ah ok16:58
Jaybird_oh ic16:58
msammelsBut if you want, I can't stop you.Just saying :)16:58
msammelsI feel you may struggle.16:58
msammelsno offence16:58
Jaybird_I think I may not at the moment .....all too new16:58
Jaybird_and the last thing I need is to lose what I have16:59
Jaybird_been so nice to have the laptop in use again16:59
msammelsThere we are :) What version of Ubuntu is on the laptop?16:59
holsteinyou can install it beside what you have now, but you dont want the server version16:59
Jaybird_I2.417:00
msammelsOK. I repeat: keep away from server :P17:00
msammelsYou're in a position of power here now :D17:00
Jaybird_LOL17:00
msammelsYou can take over the world with that laptop17:00
Jaybird_i actually like what I have17:00
Jaybird_lol17:00
stlsaintah whats wrong with server :P17:00
msammelsNothing, excpet for a new user it's all text :P17:01
stlsaintoh17:01
msammelsI myself run both server and desktop :P17:01
stlsaintJaybird_: STAY AWAY!!17:01
Jaybird_apparently as far as I can make out it has no pretty pictures17:01
Jaybird_lol17:01
msammelsHere, me link you17:01
Jaybird_link me????17:01
msammelsHere17:01
msammelshttp://www.pwrusr.com/wp-content/uploads/24_ubuntu-12_04-64-server-login.png17:01
msammelsClick that17:01
Jaybird_It says internal server error17:02
stlsaintthats sexy ;)17:02
msammelsjaybird, are you sure? :S17:02
msammelsAnd yeah, I agree :P17:02
Jaybird_well hyes17:02
Jaybird_Yep tried it again and says internal server error17:02
Jaybird_every so often the system comes up with and error and is fine when I just restart it17:03
msammelsGoogle images: ubuntu server17:03
Jaybird_cdimages?17:03
msammelsSorry?17:04
msammelsOh :P17:04
msammelsHang on17:04
msammelsTry this link17:04
msammelshttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/33.png17:04
Jaybird_that brought up a black box and looks like some things now already need updating17:05
msammelsYeah :P17:05
msammelsThat's Ubuntu server17:05
Jaybird_ok17:06
holsteinif you lan on using a keyboard, mouse and monitor, you likely dont need the server version17:07
holsteinif you plane**17:07
holsteinplan*17:07
msammelsholstein, you OK there? :P17:07
Jaybird_ok17:07
holsteini have lag that is making it challening to type.. ill just correct as i go if that OK msammels17:08
Jaybird_well what I have seems pretty good17:08
holsteinJaybird_: if it aint broke...17:08
Jaybird_lol17:08
msammelsholstein: I feel for you. I had terrible lag last night17:08
Jaybird_Anyway I wish I found this OS years ago. I want to try and put it on the old imac  on my desk17:10
Jaybird_lovely but ancient! I think I have to get a different disc for that17:11
msammelsjaybird: what iMac is it? How old?17:11
Jaybird_ancient..they laughed in the mac to - imac purple front loading....17:11
Jaybird_not the earliest but maybe a few years down the line17:11
Jaybird_has Mac OS 9.......17:12
msammelsAh... you may have trouble with Ubuntu 12.04...17:12
Jaybird_every so often I start it up for old times sake17:12
msammelsIf it has MacOS 9 keep it for the vintage :P17:12
holsteini have used the 10.04 ppc server version on my old PPC hardware.. for file servers or whatever17:12
Jaybird_yeah I did read something about it and thiink it has to be something earlier17:12
Jaybird_LOL17:13
Jaybird_the mac guys thought it might end up as a real antique so I will keep it17:13
Jaybird_Well thank you all for the great advice but I better go feed the cat and me..........It has been really helpful.  Probably saved me from a lot of daft things.....17:16
Jaybird_Bye for now17:17
DRaKhThuLhello... my /.private folder has a lot of data... i know what it does, but i don't need that data, mostly because i keep my files on an other drive... how can i get rid of it easy and witho no consequnces on my OS17:29
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: /.private is a folder you made?17:29
DRaKhThuLnope ...17:29
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: what OS are you on? /.private is not a default folder of ubuntu17:30
DRaKhThuLit has over 2.2gb and only with encrypt files i ca't read17:30
DRaKhThuLi'm running ubuntu 11.10 atm17:30
DRaKhThuLit's in my home folder....17:30
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: so you made a encrypted folder? delete it if you made17:31
DRaKhThuLi didn't make it...17:31
DRaKhThuLi would of known if i made it...17:31
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: when you installed did you select to encrypt your home?17:31
DRaKhThuLi installed my OS 2-3 months ago... can't recall doing that17:32
DRaKhThuLi could of... i'm a security freak :))17:32
misteremany time when i start my ubuntu 12.04 sound drivers are not working.. when i restart my pc after that then its working.. what is problem?17:34
DRaKhThuLcan i set this up in the Backup in system settings17:34
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: i do not think so17:39
stlsaintDRaKhThuL: you should probably unencrypt that folder then delete17:39
DRaKhThuLit's /.private folder in my /home/user/ folder17:40
DRaKhThuLthat's why i find it hard to believe i can un-encrypt it so easy and delete it17:40
DRaKhThuLi don't wanna screw up my OS17:40
mistereany one tell me the solution of my problem?17:45
stlsaintmistere: drivers maybe17:46
misterestlsaint, what "drivers maybe" ?17:50
stlsaintmistere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure17:55
misterestlsaint, thanks17:56
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