[04:49] <mistere> hello
[10:54] <john__> Hi all , I installed the proprietary amd  driver and i have the catalyst control center and can make changes there but the proprietary driver driver button still says that its not active is this a bug or do i still need to do something else?
[11:06] <john__> lol ok this is the quietest chat room with 56 people in it i have ever seen so how about somebody say something just so i will know this is working
[11:07] <geirha> something
[11:07] <john__> ty
[11:08] <geirha> anyway, hard to say. The proprietary amd drivers have always been a pita, and has never really been working 100%
[11:10] <john__> well i figured that since i was able to make changes through their panel that it just did not report back as installed correctly
[11:14] <john__> thanx geirha cya
[11:58] <Guest10901> hi, my ubuntu 12.04 doesnt recognize my wireless usb broadband gsm network,   but on my 10.04 it notices it and connects to it    - how might i overcome this?
[16:35] <Jaybird_> oh lol now I am somewhere else
[16:35] <msammels> Hey :P
[16:35] <msammels> OK - so explain here, your problem please.
[16:36] <Jaybird_> hey!!!:)
[16:36] <msammels> Also, you should have tabs to switch between both rooms
[16:36] <Jaybird_> No that is what I keep saying.  I don't have a problem but Ubuntu is new to me and it took time and posting a zillion times on the forums to set up things
[16:37] <msammels> OK. So what do you need help with doing first? :)
[16:37] <Jaybird_> so I thought checking in here might give me other tips etc
[16:37] <msammels> OK, well any questions, ask here, forums, anywhere :D
[16:37] <Jaybird_> ok
[16:37] <Jaybird_> thanks it all seems very friendly
[16:38] <Jaybird_> I had not even heard of Ubuntu till a few weeks ago then sent for a disk and my dead acer revived....
[16:39] <msammels> Ah, you bought it? :)
[16:39] <Jaybird_> I have the server disk and so think that is the next thing as it would be useful
[16:39] <Jaybird_> well I did try to download but never managed to make the disks work
[16:39] <msammels> Haha, uhm :P you're running Ubuntu without a DE?
[16:39] <Jaybird_> Probably will need help with that
[16:39] <msammels> (Desktop Environment)
[16:40] <Jaybird_> er...what is that I do have a desktop
[16:40] <Jaybird_> !
[16:40] <msammels> Well, here's what I want you to do: I want to organise your thoughts, figure out what you want to do and then ask. And if you have a desktop like icons, and stuff, then you have a desktop environment :) It's just when you mentioned server.
[16:40] <Jaybird_> I assume it has all the things I want on one side of it...lol next thing is to unattach them
[16:40] <Jaybird_> ah the server disk that comes with Ubunto
[16:40] <Jaybird_> u
[16:41] <Jaybird_> The package came with three x12.4 and one server disk
[16:41] <Jaybird_> trying to find it under the muddle here
[16:42] <msammels> Ah OK :)
[16:42] <Jaybird_> I actually had to look up what a server did...told you was a muppet at these things
[16:43] <Jaybird_> but now I know it would be very useful
[16:43] <Jaybird_> I did load it in once
[16:43] <Jaybird_> so it may already be installed
[16:44] <Jaybird_> maybe not something says NVIDA server settings but I thought that was to do with graphics
[16:44] <msammels> nVidia Server Settings is graphics, use
[16:44] <msammels> You can access like so:
[16:45] <msammels> sudo nvidia-settings
[16:45] <Jaybird_> oh yes the fascinating terminal thingy
[16:46] <msammels> Be careful with that "terminal thingy" :P
[16:46] <msammels> You can destroy an entire install...
[16:47] <Jaybird_> brings up a window with x server display configuration
[16:47] <Jaybird_> oh dear really?
[16:47] <Jaybird_> I will then
[16:47] <Jaybird_> I am not sure having got that window what I would do with it
[16:48] <msammels> Ah, great, so you do have a GUI. Established. This window allows you to change your screen resolution, and other advanced stuff like check the temperature of your graphics card, etc.
[16:48] <Jaybird_> ah...thinkI better be careful with that
[16:48] <Jaybird_> I do so love to find out what things do
[16:49] <Jaybird_> so please explain what GUI stands for ..graphics something interface?
[16:49] <msammels> Graphical User Interface. It's the same as Desktop Environment. Any icon or menu you see (pictures) is a GUI or a DE :)
[16:50] <Jaybird_> Ah that makes sense. It all does when you know....
[16:50] <msammels> Haha, mate don't worry. Back in '06 I knew nothing about Linux.
[16:50] <msammels> Didn't even know it existed :P
[16:50] <Jaybird_> rofl lol mate (this ubuntu user is female )
[16:51] <msammels> Oops... hello ma'am :P
[16:51] <Jaybird_> lol so you have to be in the states
[16:51] <msammels> Nope
[16:51] <Jaybird_> nobody says ma'am here
[16:51] <Jaybird_> UK
[16:51] <msammels> I'm from sunny, terribly rainy Scotland.
[16:52] <Jaybird_> ah yes well ok they do speak a bit different up there but I do have a little Scottish blood
[16:52] <msammels> Glad to hear it :P
[16:52] <Jaybird_> Granny was a Lumley and told me there was even a tartan
[16:52] <msammels> Hey geekosopher
[16:52] <msammels> I have tartan blood.
[16:52] <Jaybird_> oh i wish i could find the disk
[16:52] <Jaybird_> hello
[16:52] <msammels> It's red and blue :P
[16:52] <Jaybird_> haha
[16:53] <Jaybird_> ah got it. It says server 12.04 LTS
[16:53] <Jaybird_> Is it safe to try and put it into the laptop?
[16:54] <msammels> Well, you can, but you won't have any pretty menus it's all going to be text.
[16:54] <Jaybird_> I will live!
[16:54] <Jaybird_> OK put it in but what will it do?
[16:54] <msammels> It will pretty much blank your entire hard drive. Note: you will need to know how to deal with text based interfaces to install it.
[16:55] <Jaybird_> eek
[16:55] <Jaybird_> so I would lose all the stuff I put in now?
[16:55] <Jaybird_> Just took it out in fright
[16:55] <msammels> I'm confused: what is on your laptop?
[16:55] <Jaybird_> acer
[16:55] <Jaybird_> 6930g
[16:55] <Jaybird_> notebook
[16:56] <msammels> Yes, but what operating system? Is it Windows?
[16:56] <Jaybird_> no Ubuntu...Windows died- as it does on most acers as far as I can  make out
[16:56] <msammels> OK. And does this Ubuntu have pretty pictures and wallpaper and stuff?
[16:57] <holstein> i would confirm the OS died and not the hard drive... linux is not magic
[16:57] <Jaybird_> they expect you to make your own restore disk but nobody I know ever managed then want to charge you £50 when you tell them
[16:57] <holstein> ubuntu is free to download and try live
[16:57] <msammels> True. jaybird does your laptop have a wallpaper and menus and stuff, or is it all text?
[16:57] <Jaybird_> well the HD cannot be dead if I am here?
[16:57] <Jaybird_> It has wallpaper and menus and stuff
[16:58] <holstein> Jaybird_: only testing will confirm
[16:58] <Jaybird_> lol
[16:58] <msammels> May I make a suggestion? If you have pretty menus, wallpapers and so one: do not install the server edition
[16:58] <msammels> It will wipe the current install and throw you off
[16:58] <Jaybird_> ah ok
[16:58] <Jaybird_> oh ic
[16:58] <msammels> But if you want, I can't stop you.Just saying :)
[16:58] <msammels> I feel you may struggle.
[16:58] <msammels> no offence
[16:58] <Jaybird_> I think I may not at the moment .....all too new
[16:59] <Jaybird_> and the last thing I need is to lose what I have
[16:59] <Jaybird_> been so nice to have the laptop in use again
[16:59] <msammels> There we are :) What version of Ubuntu is on the laptop?
[16:59] <holstein> you can install it beside what you have now, but you dont want the server version
[17:00] <Jaybird_> I2.4
[17:00] <msammels> OK. I repeat: keep away from server :P
[17:00] <msammels> You're in a position of power here now :D
[17:00] <Jaybird_> LOL
[17:00] <msammels> You can take over the world with that laptop
[17:00] <Jaybird_> i actually like what I have
[17:00] <Jaybird_> lol
[17:00] <stlsaint> ah whats wrong with server :P
[17:01] <msammels> Nothing, excpet for a new user it's all text :P
[17:01] <stlsaint> oh
[17:01] <msammels> I myself run both server and desktop :P
[17:01] <stlsaint> Jaybird_: STAY AWAY!!
[17:01] <Jaybird_> apparently as far as I can make out it has no pretty pictures
[17:01] <Jaybird_> lol
[17:01] <msammels> Here, me link you
[17:01] <Jaybird_> link me????
[17:01] <msammels> Here
[17:01] <msammels> http://www.pwrusr.com/wp-content/uploads/24_ubuntu-12_04-64-server-login.png
[17:01] <msammels> Click that
[17:02] <Jaybird_> It says internal server error
[17:02] <stlsaint> thats sexy ;)
[17:02] <msammels> jaybird, are you sure? :S
[17:02] <msammels> And yeah, I agree :P
[17:02] <Jaybird_> well hyes
[17:02] <Jaybird_> Yep tried it again and says internal server error
[17:03] <Jaybird_> every so often the system comes up with and error and is fine when I just restart it
[17:03] <msammels> Google images: ubuntu server
[17:03] <Jaybird_> cdimages?
[17:04] <msammels> Sorry?
[17:04] <msammels> Oh :P
[17:04] <msammels> Hang on
[17:04] <msammels> Try this link
[17:04] <msammels> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/33.png
[17:05] <Jaybird_> that brought up a black box and looks like some things now already need updating
[17:05] <msammels> Yeah :P
[17:05] <msammels> That's Ubuntu server
[17:06] <Jaybird_> ok
[17:07] <holstein> if you lan on using a keyboard, mouse and monitor, you likely dont need the server version
[17:07] <holstein> if you plane**
[17:07] <holstein> plan*
[17:07] <msammels> holstein, you OK there? :P
[17:07] <Jaybird_> ok
[17:08] <holstein> i have lag that is making it challening to type.. ill just correct as i go if that OK msammels
[17:08] <Jaybird_> well what I have seems pretty good
[17:08] <holstein> Jaybird_: if it aint broke...
[17:08] <Jaybird_> lol
[17:08] <msammels> holstein: I feel for you. I had terrible lag last night
[17:10] <Jaybird_> Anyway I wish I found this OS years ago. I want to try and put it on the old imac  on my desk
[17:11] <Jaybird_> lovely but ancient! I think I have to get a different disc for that
[17:11] <msammels> jaybird: what iMac is it? How old?
[17:11] <Jaybird_> ancient..they laughed in the mac to - imac purple front loading....
[17:11] <Jaybird_> not the earliest but maybe a few years down the line
[17:12] <Jaybird_> has Mac OS 9.......
[17:12] <msammels> Ah... you may have trouble with Ubuntu 12.04...
[17:12] <Jaybird_> every so often I start it up for old times sake
[17:12] <msammels> If it has MacOS 9 keep it for the vintage :P
[17:12] <holstein> i have used the 10.04 ppc server version on my old PPC hardware.. for file servers or whatever
[17:12] <Jaybird_> yeah I did read something about it and thiink it has to be something earlier
[17:13] <Jaybird_> LOL
[17:13] <Jaybird_> the mac guys thought it might end up as a real antique so I will keep it
[17:16] <Jaybird_> Well thank you all for the great advice but I better go feed the cat and me..........It has been really helpful.  Probably saved me from a lot of daft things.....
[17:17] <Jaybird_> Bye for now
[17:29] <DRaKhThuL> hello... my /.private folder has a lot of data... i know what it does, but i don't need that data, mostly because i keep my files on an other drive... how can i get rid of it easy and witho no consequnces on my OS
[17:29] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: /.private is a folder you made?
[17:29] <DRaKhThuL> nope ...
[17:30] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: what OS are you on? /.private is not a default folder of ubuntu
[17:30] <DRaKhThuL> it has over 2.2gb and only with encrypt files i ca't read
[17:30] <DRaKhThuL> i'm running ubuntu 11.10 atm
[17:30] <DRaKhThuL> it's in my home folder....
[17:31] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: so you made a encrypted folder? delete it if you made
[17:31] <DRaKhThuL> i didn't make it...
[17:31] <DRaKhThuL> i would of known if i made it...
[17:31] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: when you installed did you select to encrypt your home?
[17:32] <DRaKhThuL> i installed my OS 2-3 months ago... can't recall doing that
[17:32] <DRaKhThuL> i could of... i'm a security freak :))
[17:34] <mistere> many time when i start my ubuntu 12.04 sound drivers are not working.. when i restart my pc after that then its working.. what is problem?
[17:34] <DRaKhThuL> can i set this up in the Backup in system settings
[17:39] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: i do not think so
[17:39] <stlsaint> DRaKhThuL: you should probably unencrypt that folder then delete
[17:40] <DRaKhThuL> it's /.private folder in my /home/user/ folder
[17:40] <DRaKhThuL> that's why i find it hard to believe i can un-encrypt it so easy and delete it
[17:40] <DRaKhThuL> i don't wanna screw up my OS
[17:45] <mistere> any one tell me the solution of my problem?
[17:46] <stlsaint> mistere: drivers maybe
[17:50] <mistere> stlsaint, what "drivers maybe" ?
[17:55] <stlsaint> mistere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:56] <mistere> stlsaint, thanks