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pp7anyone else have suspend problems since last update?01:00
ajmitchpp7: what sort of problems are you seeing? I haven't had a chance to file a bug about it yet01:01
pp7ajmitch, well it wont suspend at all anymore01:02
pp7i just have a script that calls pm-suspend after locking the screen but it doesnt suspend, just goes to lock screen01:02
ajmitcha different problem than what I've been seeing. I'd file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux'01:03
pp7mm k01:03
lifelessthere is a dbug page01:05
lifelessdebug page for debugging whats going on01:05
lifelessI'd run through it quickly, I forget the URL.01:05
ajmitchhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging perhaps01:06
pp7k01:07
vibhavmterry: Do we need 02_fix_install_path.patch in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gbirthday/0.6.5-1ubuntu1 for quantal too?02:16
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OdyXn03:27
pp7is there anything wrong with running echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state on its own to suspend?  I just did it and it came back fine but i'm wondering if something will get screwed up next time03:41
OdyXpp7: besides you don't benefit from all the preparation pm-suspend does for you, no.03:47
pp7what preparation?04:15
pp7i am doing this because pm-suspend now does nothing after latest update04:15
slangasekpp7: pm-utils runs a series of scripts to set the hardware in a correct state before and after suspend (/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/); on some hardware, skipping these makes resuming from suspend fail completely, on others it might just mean your machine is in a suboptimal state after resume04:51
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slangasekpp7: if pm-suspend is failing for you, you might want to check /var/log/pm-suspend.log04:52
pp7slangasek, yea i checked that but nothing useful, says it was successful when it wasn't05:03
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pittiGood morning06:05
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TheMusoc06:16
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dholbachgood morning06:59
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* xnox notes should not try to do too many things simultaneously, otherwise typos happen....08:31
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jamespagecan someone help me understand why this package - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunwind/1.0.1-1ubuntu108:46
jamespageis only building for i386 and amd64? I was expecting powerpc and armel as well...08:46
seb128jamespage, P-a-S has "%libunwind: ia64 i386 amd64 ppc64"08:52
seb128jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/packages-arch-specific/ubuntu08:52
seb128jamespage, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56995208:53
ubottuDebian bug 569952 in buildd.debian.org "Please let libunwind build on i386 and amd64" [Normal,Open]08:53
seb128jamespage, I guess you need to tweak that if it can build on powerpc,armel nowadays08:53
jamespageseb128, thanks for the pointer - I still seem to learn something new every day on this project :-)08:54
jamespageseb128, I'll test those two architectures first and enable if it looks OK08:56
seb128jamespage, sounds good08:57
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seb128jamespage, you might want to file a bug for Debian to do it as well if it works on those archs08:57
jamespageseb128, ack08:58
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tumbleweedRAOF: ping on bug 950963: what's the chance of providing compatibility with Debian packages depending on libcuda / libopencl?09:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 950963 in viennacl (Ubuntu) "nvidia-graphics-drivers needs to provide separate packages such as libcuda1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95096309:57
xnoxtumbleweed: RAOF: this looks familiar10:00
* tumbleweed prodded RAOF about it at UDS. He suggested Provides, but IIRC some packages have versioned dependencies10:01
tumbleweedit's making the scientific computing people sad :)10:02
xnoxtumbleweed: there is a similar request for opencl10:03
tumbleweedunsuprisingly10:03
xnoxtumbleweed: bug 76345710:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 763457 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "please provide opencl-icd virtual package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76345710:03
xnoxtumbleweed: RAOF: i have pinged tseliot about bug 763457 and he said it should be easy to do for opencl, but I am not sure about the cuda bits.10:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 763457 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "please provide opencl-icd virtual package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76345710:04
xnoxthe opencl stuff came up as part of boost1.49 transition10:05
tseliotxnox: last time I checked, the cuda package in debian needed some work to include it in Ubuntu10:05
tumbleweedour nvidia driver packages include libcuda, don't they?10:06
mhr3_doko, hey i hear you can help me with valgrind-related issue10:39
mhr3_doko, so, it's pretty simple - callgrind_control doesn't work for us, cause there's a regex which fails, any chance to patch it?10:40
mhr3_(it's just a perl script)10:40
mhr3_it fails cause it expects valgrind to be valgrind, yet it's valgrind.bin for us10:41
jamespageseb128, I am correct in thinking that I 1) push the required changes to the p-a-s branch and then 2) upload a new version to enable the new archtectures?10:54
cjwatsonYes10:55
cjwatsonWait a bit in between though10:55
cjwatson(Also send the patch to Debian, Package: buildd.debian.org, if it applies there too)10:55
cjwatson"a bit" here is an hour or so:10:55
cjwatson15 * * * *  cd /srv/launchpad.net/builddmaster/pas-bzr/ && bzr up -q10:55
jamespagecjwatson, yep - I just finished testing on powerpc and arm*10:56
jamespageI will submit patches for fixing arm* and enabling in debian10:56
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dokomhr3_, what to send a patch?11:12
mhr3_doko, i just did11:14
mhr3_$ diff callgrind_control.old callgrind_control11:14
mhr3_32c3211:14
mhr3_<       if (/^use --pid=(\d+) for \S*?valgrind\s+(.*?)\s*$/) {11:14
mhr3_---11:14
mhr3_>       if (/^use --pid=(\d+) for \S*?valgrind\S*?\s+(.*?)\s*$/) {11:14
mhr3_sorry, didn't do the pkg-foo11:15
dokomhr3_, I'm travelling, so please put it into a bug report for now11:15
mhr3_ok11:16
gigixHello everyone. I'd like to contribute to the development of Ubuntu, read quite a few articles and wiki pages about how to do so, but I am still a bit confused about where to start. Could you guys share thoughts about a recommended path for 1st time contributors ?11:34
evmpt: yay, I just landed hanging application support in apport. I'll let you know when it's in the archive so you can poke around the UI and make sure it meets your expectations. Just need to land my compiz branch now and we're there.11:38
evmuch thanks to pitti for the steady stream of thorough code reviews11:39
mptev, does it require a Q installation?11:39
evmpt: hmm, probably not11:39
evI can throw it in a ppa for precise11:39
evand we can evaluate backporting to get data from 12.04.1 users11:40
jamespageanyone aware of any issues with the 3.5.0-3 kernel in quantal?  I get 0 peripherals including network, usb, monitor etc...11:50
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pittiev: FYI, I have a build recipe for apport's trunk12:59
pittiev: FYI, bumping apport's version to 2.3, as it has new features (should have done this before already)13:11
evpitti: cheers!13:14
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smbcjwatson, While meddling around trying to figure kdump, I took the opportunity to do a merge of kexec-tools from Debian. Since you uploaded it last, I wanted to let you know and also ask how you would prefer me to go on. LP bug and subscribe you or just generic sponsors?13:56
cjwatsonGo ahead; just generic sponsors, I have no attachment to it13:56
smbok13:57
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PaoloRotoloHi all14:41
zyga-foodmvo, hey, what decides that apt-get install selects a package from precise vs precise-backports? (when both repositories are enabled)15:03
stgraberzyga-food: -backports is marked as NotAutomatic and ButAutomaticUpgrades. So apt will never select a package from it unless explicitly asked to do so, but once a package is installed from it, apt will continue pulling updates from -backports.15:07
zyga-foodstgraber, interesting, how would one install a package from backports? with explicit version provided to apt?15:08
Laneyzyga-food: apt-get install foo/precise-backports15:08
zyga-foodstgraber, and once you actually get that package, does it 'unlock' all other backport packages or just the package (name) that was installed15:08
zyga-foodah15:08
zyga-foodinteresting15:08
* zyga-food is trying to install something from backports and managed to do it with apt-get install foo=very-long-version15:09
Laneythat works too15:09
zyga-foodwhere can I read about it?15:09
Laney!backports15:09
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging15:09
zyga-foodI'd like to understand how that works15:09
zyga-foodthanks!15:09
pittiapw, ogasawara: is it planned to apply our remaining Ubuntu delta of module-init-tools to kmod and move to that?15:15
apwpitti, i don't think we've done anything other than think that it was a good idea15:15
apwi am sure its where most peopel are going15:16
pittiapw: kmod should be backwards compatible from what I can tell; the "upgrade quirks" are most probably obsolete anyway after precise's release, so we just have some modprobe.d/ customizations15:18
pittiyou can't build systemd and newer udev without it, that's why I'm asking15:18
apwpitti, heh ... well then our hand is forced, i can put it on my list15:22
pittiapw: alternatively we could modify the Debian source package to not build the transitional module-init-tools package15:23
pittibut it seems to be the official successor, also in debian15:23
apwpitti, yep i think we want to change if we can, i'll look at it next15:24
pittiapw: cheers! hopefully our delta is not too big15:24
micahgxnox: why not just let mongodb fail than disabling it? (failure is a sign to fix)16:38
xnoxmicahg: it's a toolchain issue, with bugs filed with tag boost1.4916:40
micahgxnox: so what?16:40
xnoxit's one of the 3 remaining packages to remove boost1.46 from the archive16:40
micahgxnox: and, as much as it would be nice to have boost1.46 gone, at this point in the cycle, it doesn't matter that much16:41
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micahgxnox: also, you can remove the binaries without disabling the build16:41
gmican anybody confirm if a new version of dnsmasq-base was added to precise-proposed? it was reportedly added around June 15th but I cannot seem to find it; the only version is 2.59-4 and I'm looking for 2.6116:42
micahgxnox: when you disable the build, it no longer shows up here: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/, so no one sees that there is an FTBFS bug to fix16:43
micahggmi: 2.62-3 is in quantal, it's unlikely that 2.61 would be uploaded to precise16:44
gmimicahg: Chuck Short sent an email on the openstack mailing list on June 15th about uploading a fix to a dnsmasq bug affecting Ubuntu Precise users to the precise-proposed repo, but I don't see any new new version being available16:46
zulgmi: no i said we are working on it...still working on it16:47
micahgbug 100689816:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006898 in dnsmasq (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] dnsmasq fails at leasing issues when using vlan mode" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100689816:47
gmizul: the email was worded differently, but if I have to wait I'll wait http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=or%20those%20who%20are%20affected%20by%20the%20dnsmasq%2Fvlan%20issues%20on%20Ubuntu%2C%20I%20have%20uploaded%20a%20fix%20for%20precise-proposed.%20It%20should%20be%20available%20for%20testing%20of%20the%20fix%20soon.%20You%20will%20have%20to%20turn%20on%20%22precise-proposed%22%20on%20your%20servers%20to%20test%20the%20f16:48
micahggmi: it was uploaded and rejected, see the bug for more info16:48
gmimicahg and zul: thanks for the update; I'll be patient and wait for the update to land in precise-proposed16:53
micahgBenC: thanks for the PPC patch for Firefox16:53
BenCmicahg: No problem16:55
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xnoxmicahg: I know that. I will have arm hardware in 1.5 weeks, and I'm planning on making them build again.17:19
xnoxmicahg: but you do have a point, now that armhf builds, there is little point in not keeping armel as FTBFS17:20
micahgxnox: also, something to keep in mind is Ubuntu isn't like Debian (yet) where we have to worry about binaries migrating17:26
xnoxmicahg: but i can't remove the source package without binaries...17:36
micahgxnox: huh?17:36
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micahgjamespage: doko: is it time to flip the openjdk 7 plugin to main in quantal?19:11
micahgjamespage: doko: I mean switch the openjdk7 version to be default (and what icedtea-plugin pulls in)19:14
jamespagemicahg, I think so; the java alternates need to be updated as well to favour java7 over java6 when both are installed.20:06
jamespagedoko, I think I'm correct in what I say above ^^20:06
cousteauso...  could someone please fix the problem on nvidia-96?20:11
* cousteau is considering the possibility of just opening the package and deleting the xorg-video-10-abi line20:11
micahgcousteau: the person I poked is off today20:12
cousteauok20:13
cousteaubut it's a work in progress then20:13
cousteauok...  I've not upgraded to precise yet but when I do I don't want to be installing the Nvidia drivers manually again20:13
micahgcousteau: I would do it myself, but I'm not sure if it needs more than a rebuild r not20:13
cousteau(also another IRC user happens to have exactly the same graphics card model as I do...)20:14
cousteaumaybe the install can be forced by telling dpkg to ignore missing dependencies?20:14
stgraberScottK: around?20:16
ScottKstgraber: Yes.20:16
stgraberScottK: Edubuntu has failed to build for a few days now because of python-avogadro not being installable20:17
stgraberScottK: as it depends on python2.7-qt420:17
stgraberwhich doesn't seem to exist20:17
ScottKThe Debian avogadro maintainer and I are arguing about that very point.20:17
ScottKhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=67981920:17
ubottuDebian bug 679819 in python-qt4 "Dropping Provides field broke depending software (python-avogadro)" [Serious,Open]20:17
stgraberbased on germinate output, I should be able to avoid python-avogdaro by changing the libavogadro1 recommends but I'm open to better solutions, as long as we get Edubuntu buildable again quickly :)20:18
highvoltagethanks ScottK :)20:18
ScottKIt's easy enough to fix in either avogadro or PyQt.20:18
ScottKI think fixing it in avogadro is better, but as you can see if the bug the avogadro maintainer has not agreed.20:19
ScottKThe needed diff for avogadro is in the bug.20:19
ScottKFixing PyQt makes even less sense in Ubuntu where there's only one Python version.20:19
stgraberok, I'll upload the avogadro change in Ubuntu, and once people are done fighting we'll use whatever they decide :)20:20
ScottKSounds good.20:20
xnoxstgraber: what avogadro changes? =)20:28
ScottKxnox: Look in the bug I referenced.20:30
* xnox was offline.... looking up irclogs..20:34
Laneylesson: never go offline20:37
dokojamespage, yes the priorities need an update.20:41
micahgjamespage: so, can you fix up icedtea-web then?20:46
micahgxnox: what did you mean before about removing sources with binaries?20:46
jamespagemicahg, I can but not immediately - I have a few other things I need to clear first20:47
micahgjamespage: sure, no rush, just want to make sure someone's taking it :)20:47
xnoxmicahg: mongodb is part of boost1.46 -> boost1.49 transition.20:49
xnoxit's one of the last 4 packages20:49
xnoxcan i remove boost1.46 sources, while keeping the remaining boost1.46 binaries which mongodb old version depends on in precise (and copied into quantal)20:50
ScottKxnox: In that case no you can't.20:50
micahgxnox: right, but you can remove the offending armel binary without disabling the build20:50
ajmitchthere are probably good (legal) reasons why you can't remove the source if binaries still exist20:50
xnoxmicahg: that's why I disabled armel build, as far as mongodb armel build goes: either upstream should finally support things that are not *-x86, or armel toolchain needs target profile changes.20:55
xnoxit doesn't look like either of fixes will happen any time soon.20:55
micahgxnox: right, but it was established that it's a toolchain bug that should be fixed, not an upstream issue, and the FTBFS reminder makes it more likely for some +1 maintenance person like infinity to actually fix it20:56
ScottKI can remove binaries on a single arch if neeeded.20:59
xnoxok. thanks.21:14
xnoxI will fix player and give another round to ball, before comming back to this21:14
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xnoxScottK: interesting maintainer of avogadro...22:11
ScottKYes.22:13
alazare619anyone here build ubuntu 12.04 from scratch using live-build?22:53
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