| jrwren | alright, I'm reading up on openstack, and I think this is overkill for my needs. | 00:19 |
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| jrwren | is there something that does a bit more management than invoking kvm myself, but doesn't go huge giant management of openstack? | 00:19 |
| jrwren | virsh i guess. | 00:22 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: did the virtualenv wrapper thing ever get kvm support? | 00:27 |
| rick_h_ | I thought it was going to add it, blanking on the name now | 00:27 |
| rick_h_ | vagrant | 00:27 |
| jrwren | not sure. | 01:02 |
| jrwren | i don't need it for python so much as just alternative to ESXi | 01:02 |
| snap-l | I didn't know Netflix supported Paypal | 01:11 |
| snap-l | Yay | 01:11 |
| gamerchick02 | they do? | 01:19 |
| gamerchick02 | that's pretty cool | 01:19 |
| rick_h_ | I think this is officially the most retarded article I've read this month: http://goo.gl/sSMte | 01:48 |
| rick_h_ | and color schemes in irssi sucks... | 01:48 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yup, that is dumb. apple is not making a 7". when will people learn. | 01:53 |
| rick_h_ | I meant more "So someone said they might release something, in Oct, that's 7" or maybe 8", and it'll be cheaper...and it's Google's worst nightmare!!!!! buwhahahaha | 01:55 |
| rick_h_ | can someone /nick highlight me pls? | 02:09 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Figures. :) | 03:09 |
| snap-l | That's when everyone goes AFK | 03:09 |
| jrwren | what do you mean /nick highlight you? | 03:12 |
| jrwren | you mean like rick_h_ ? | 03:12 |
| jrwren | "say my name!" | 03:12 |
| tony-smlr | "/me" | 03:13 |
| * tony-smlr hello world | 03:13 | |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:16 |
| _stink_ | i suspect the availability of fireworks in-state this year made it a louder night last night | 13:06 |
| _stink_ | sounded like a war zone | 13:06 |
| rick_h_ | yea, was rough | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | took sleeping meds | 13:13 |
| snap-l | Happy Higgs-Boson-like day. | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, ok so I'm not the only one that read it that way? | 13:53 |
| rick_h_ | "oh...the odds are in our favor that with continued work we have the great Higgs | 13:54 |
| snap-l | "We've managed to find a particle that acts like a Higgs, within relative certainty, but we need your help | 13:56 |
| snap-l | "This particle still needs your help to be found | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | right, "for just $1 a day...you can help find our long lost particle. Can you afford not to give?" | 13:57 |
| snap-l | "Send your check or money order to the adress on your screen | 13:57 |
| snap-l | But seriously, this is pretty huge | 13:58 |
| snap-l | I can already feel the science reconfiguring itself. | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | stuff like this is what cracks me up "Now technically, thatâs all the physicists can say: the particle is definitely there. But is it the Higgs? Well, to be fair, they canât actually say that. But if it walks like a Higgs, looks like a Higgs, and quacks like a Higgs⦠yeah.Now technically, thatâs all the physicists can say: the particle is definitely there. But is it the Higgs? Well, to be fair, they canâ | 13:59 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: As a Python developer, I am shocked at your lack of faith in duck-typing the Higgs. | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but when you duck type you call it by what it's ducking...not a specific name | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | "This takes a boson...do you act/quack like a boson? ok you're in" | 14:04 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Are you sure you want JoDee at CHC? You might be wearing that pie. | 14:05 |
| snap-l | _stink_: You're coming to CHC and doing a presentation. We have a whiteboard. | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | what? why would I wear the pie? | 14:06 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Trust me, it's a touchy subject. | 14:07 |
| rick_h_ | the Higgs business? Or pie? | 14:07 |
| snap-l | "Technically, Physicists can't proove gravity either" | 14:08 |
| snap-l | s/proove/prove/ | 14:08 |
| jrwren | who quoted that. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | that is a foolish statement. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | gravity has never been disprooven. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | Physicists can't EXPLAIN gravity | 14:09 |
| jrwren | but its prooven. | 14:10 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I'm paraphrasing | 14:10 |
| snap-l | understand: I am not a physicist | 14:10 |
| jrwren | ah. | 14:10 |
| snap-l | but I live with one | 14:10 |
| snap-l | and am married to one | 14:10 |
| jrwren | physics minor & too much startalk listener here. | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | isn't that what this Mr. Higgs thing is helping with? Explaining the invisible forces out there? | 14:10 |
| snap-l | and if I keep up with these Higgs Boson cracks, I will be snuffed out in my sleep by one. :) | 14:10 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yes, that's the idea | 14:11 |
| jrwren | if we find gravitons, i'll be giddy like a school girl going to the mall with her friends to meet the boy she likes. | 14:13 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, well, LIGO isn't going to find them | 14:14 |
| snap-l | LISA would have a better shot. | 14:14 |
| jrwren | yeah, i just meant in general. | 14:16 |
| jrwren | then we could be the ansible. | 14:17 |
| snap-l | We are inviting you for Marriott hotel job opportunity in Toronto Canada; you may be delighted to apply in any job categories of your choice with your C.V | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Please be informed that our hotel will pay for your air tickets, accommodations and also help you people for the visa process. | 14:17 |
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| rick_h_ | awesome | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Yeah, this sounds completely legit | 14:17 |
| jrwren | its sounds like indianenglish | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Too bad Wolfger isn't online | 14:19 |
| snap-l | could have wished him a Happy Birthday. | 14:19 |
| rick_h_ | OMG OMG the tests pass! | 14:19 |
| rick_h_ | only took 3 days | 14:19 |
| jrwren | congrats! | 14:20 |
| jrwren | was it a huge refactoring from hell. | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | now to file a bug "REWRITE ALL THIS SHIT" | 14:20 |
| jrwren | wtf, why are you working today? stop it. | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | I'm taking friday off so I can go up north | 14:20 |
| jrwren | oh, tests under legacy | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | so worky today, swap day friday | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, trying to upgrade our YUI library for 3.3 to 3.5 | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | and tests go boom, so I've got to figure out why, and this is by far the worst JS I've yet seen in LP...and that's saying A LOT | 14:21 |
| rick_h_ | so really trying not to touch the code, bug just fix the things to make tests pass | 14:22 |
| rick_h_ | ah crap, going to have to fix it for review 2697 lines (+1239/-1234) 7 files modified | 14:24 |
| jrwren | hrm, so write the tests for what is broken, then fix the code. that is good. | 14:26 |
| snap-l | The dao of jrwren | 14:30 |
| rick_h_ | and they're back to failing... *sigh* | 14:33 |
| jrwren | failing tests are a good thing, its how I know on what to work. | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I'm with ya. and it was a good thing, pointed out that I had commented out some code to ignore that issue for a bit while I figured out the more basic issue | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | and uncommenting it reminded me I had unresolved issues I forgot to address | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | woot, think I've almost got my irssi theme working out | 16:06 |
| _stink_ | the problem with the Higgs being found so early by the LHC is that it would be much more awesome if no one could find it. | 16:12 |
| _stink_ | then we'd have to rethink erythang. | 16:12 |
| _stink_ | but now, we just get to measure everything better. | 16:12 |
| _stink_ | i need to read more to see what Higgs theory(ies) are allowable of this is indeed the Higgs | 16:13 |
| _stink_ | it *should* exclude some of them | 16:13 |
| _stink_ | i wonder if i can find the slides from the seminar... or how soon papers will be in Science or Physical Review Letters. | 16:14 |
| derekv | Yea we need to find issues in the standard model | 16:27 |
| rick_h_ | lmao how did i miss this yesterday? http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/07/03/Urinal-cakes-speak-against-drunk-driving/UPI-99131341339819/ | 16:31 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: The question should be: how dod you find out about it now? :) | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | don't know why, I usually ignore those posts, but hard time concetrating today | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | and saw a woot article that mentioned MI | 17:38 |
| brousch | Eh? | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | 16:31 rick_h_- lmao how did i miss this yesterday? http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/07/03/Urinal-cakes-speak-against-drunk-driving/UPI-99131341339819 | 17:39 |
| brousch | Ah, yeah, saw those a few days ago and almost posted it here | 17:40 |
| brousch | I think they would freak me out | 17:40 |
| brousch | Now if they could analyze the urine for alcohol % and warn people who are over the limit, that would be awesome | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | hah! that's an awesome idea | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | required in ever bar | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | "Oh crap, I can't leave yet...I'm over the limit according to the toilet" | 17:41 |
| snap-l | I think that would be pretty cool | 17:42 |
| brousch | "Sir, judging by the amount of alcohol in your urine, I'm gonna have to ask you to hand your keys to the guy in the next stall. He'll drive you home" | 17:42 |
| snap-l | though I wonder how much alcohol would show up in something like that. | 17:42 |
| snap-l | God, the hardest part of this article is getting some good shots of the Squeezebox | 17:43 |
| snap-l | Anyone have a photo booth I could borrow? | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | take it outside, put it on a table with a big postboard behind it, done :) | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | or honestly, hit up your contact back at Logitech for some pro photos | 17:45 |
| snap-l | They have some, but I want to show some "in action" photos | 17:45 |
| snap-l | but yeah, I'm going to beg off on the cover and larger shot photos | 17:45 |
| snap-l | The photos I took with my Canon are all unusable. | 17:46 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: you and your bro coming out to CHC? | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | pie supplied, so come on down! | 17:47 |
| snap-l | My phone's camera does a hell of a better job. | 17:48 |
| derekv | rick_h_: I didn't even connect with the fact its wedsday | 17:48 |
| rick_h_ | start connecting! | 17:48 |
| derekv | atm i'm hiding inside seeing if I can get ipv6 to work on my firewall | 17:49 |
| derekv | in a minute i'm going out to get food | 17:49 |
| derekv | i need a propane tank | 17:49 |
| derekv | also | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | careful, I hear it's hot out there | 17:49 |
| derekv | yea i opened the door | 17:49 |
| * rick_h_ is basement hiding and working | 17:49 | |
| derekv | my firewall is a pentium2 generation slot1 433 celeron that I built in probably 99... | 17:51 |
| derekv | its pretty dependable | 17:51 |
| derekv | =] | 17:51 |
| snap-l | derekv: Far be it from me to tell you what to do with a P2, but you might want to check out the newer firewalls. ;) | 17:52 |
| snap-l | They have a lot more processing power, and sip power more gently than a P2 | 17:52 |
| snap-l | and they can handle gigabit ethernet. | 17:52 |
| derekv | snap-l: there's an atom based 1u i might be able to get my hands on so I'm holding out for that | 17:53 |
| snap-l | ++ | 17:53 |
| derekv | snap-l: the machine is overpowered for what it does | 17:53 |
| derekv | already | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | atom based 1U? run ubuntu on it! | 17:54 |
| derekv | snap-l: I have I think 9 virtual machines running on it at it sits idle | 17:54 |
| derekv | my only issue with the atom based servers is that you can't put ecc in them | 17:54 |
| derekv | thats one thing AMD still does right that really sucks about intel, the way they seperate out the xeon chips from the other ones | 17:55 |
| derekv | all amd chips support ecc | 17:55 |
| derekv | because they don't make two designs. | 17:55 |
| derekv | if i built a new firewall or other low power server now i'd look at low wattage amd chips | 17:56 |
| derekv | the p2 celeron isn't bad but its not as good as an atom, it think its in the neighborhood of 30w | 17:56 |
| derekv | atom is 10ish, desktop procs usually 90 or 120 | 17:57 |
| derekv | we're talking about pennies a month | 17:57 |
| jrwren | derekv: linux ipv6? | 18:00 |
| derekv | jrwren: bsd | 18:00 |
| derekv | kame | 18:00 |
| jrwren | ah. | 18:00 |
| jrwren | kame is ipsec I thought. | 18:01 |
| jrwren | is it ipv6 too? | 18:01 |
| jrwren | i'm having terrible luck getting my ipv6 to work. | 18:01 |
| jrwren | comcast gives me 2 /64s via radv | 18:01 |
| derekv | radv? | 18:01 |
| jrwren | but my linux isn't responding to ipv6 neighbor solicitations, so I've not path to my router. | 18:01 |
| derekv | i'm trying to use dhcp6 | 18:01 |
| jrwren | router advertisement. | 18:01 |
| derekv | i get nothing via that | 18:02 |
| derekv | but maybe i'm not using it correctly | 18:02 |
| derekv | this is all new to me | 18:02 |
| jrwren | me too | 18:02 |
| jrwren | but i've learned a lot | 18:02 |
| derekv | dhcp6 doesn't just work out of the box I guess, you have to do a .conf maybe | 18:02 |
| jrwren | works for me ootb | 18:04 |
| jrwren | sudo tcpdump -n -vv -i eth4 ip6 | 18:05 |
| jrwren | will show you all the ipv6 traffic. you can see if you are getting neighbor solicitations and router advertisements. | 18:05 |
| jrwren | replace eth4 with your network interface of course :) | 18:06 |
| derekv | i'm only getting link local addresses so far | 18:08 |
| derekv | dhcp6c.conf is greek | 18:10 |
| jrwren | no router advertisements eh? | 18:11 |
| jrwren | well, at least you are getting neighbor solicitations which are link local | 18:11 |
| derekv | idk | 18:12 |
| jrwren | mine just worked on ubu | 18:17 |
| jrwren | didn't have to config naything | 18:17 |
| jrwren | but that is dhclient and dhclient.conf, i'm not sure about dhcp6d | 18:18 |
| derekv | linux dhclient has dhcpv6 support? | 18:20 |
| brousch | What is this cisco thing? I am not locked out of my router | 18:49 |
| derekv | I found this cryptic-to-me statement about comcast "we use RAs + stateful DHCPv6. IPv6 auto-configuration is not supported." | 18:50 |
| derekv | its from the guy in charge of comcast ipv6 | 18:50 |
| brousch | Hm, maybe mine's too old. I have E2000, but only E2700, E3500, and E4500 are affected | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | time to up my gittip amounts to the new levels | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | ok, liking this idea more now. I've got $4/wk of tips going out | 19:54 |
| brousch | Hm, I liked the tiny amounts | 19:58 |
| brousch | Now $0.25 is the smallest? | 19:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 20:00 |
| brousch | My Dutch wallet is aching now | 20:00 |
| rick_h_ | heh, I figured $3-4 a week works out to about $15/mo and I've been wanting to do $20/mo to various things. | 20:02 |
| rick_h_ | if I run like this, swap out people once in a while, I'll be doing my goal. | 20:02 |
| rick_h_ | http://blog.gittip.com/post/26505682007/is-personal-funding-viable | 20:03 |
| derekv | betchya I lose power in a moment | 22:30 |
| rick_h_ | down and back | 22:52 |
| rick_h_ | CHC is ready to go and the pie has arrived | 22:52 |
| rick_h_ | and it's two for the price of one day | 22:52 |
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