[06:51] <charl> ohayo gozaimas
[06:59] <Kilos> morning all
[06:59] <Kilos> lo charl 
[07:23] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[07:24] <Kilos> uh oh
[07:24] <Kilos> gc voda complaints
[07:24] <gc> Kilos: Huh?
[07:25] <Kilos> Maaz, cocooncrash wb
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[07:26] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[07:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:26] <Maaz> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[07:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:27] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos, charl, and others: good mornings
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you are famous
[07:31] <Kilos> why now inetpro  Good morning to you too
[07:31] <inetpro> you helped to kill a bug
[07:32] <Kilos> oh thats good
[07:32] <inetpro> lol
[07:32] <Kilos> is noddy working
[07:32] <inetpro> Kilos: no, I'll upgrade in due time
[07:32] <inetpro> your fix will only be released some time from now
[07:33] <Kilos> lol its easy if youdo the ppa thing
[07:33] <Kilos> what release is noddy on?
[07:34]  * inetpro prefers to have as little ppa stuff as possible
[07:34] <Kilos> its the only ppa i have 
[07:35] <Kilos> and dont they only work when you do updates/upgrades?
[07:35] <inetpro> Kilos: lucid 10.04.3 LTS
[07:35] <Kilos> my updates are turned off
[07:35] <Kilos> i have the package here 
[07:35] <Kilos> can mail it to you
[07:35] <Kilos> under 1m
[07:35] <inetpro> Kilos: I have no need urgent need for an upgraded version
[07:36] <Kilos> actually it is just for the weather thing
[07:36] <inetpro> Kilos: and if I need it I can downlowad it also
[07:37] <Kilos> but there is more i dont understand
[07:37] <Kilos> why cant i tell my bot traceback
[07:38] <Kilos> qp traceback
[07:38] <QP> Kilos: Huh?
[07:38] <Kilos> see
[07:38] <inetpro> Kilos: traceback is for tracing errors. You have errors?
[07:38] <Kilos> even when it did have it said huh
[07:39] <Kilos> grrr
[07:39] <inetpro> Kilos: I suggest you play with the bot in another channel
[07:39] <Kilos> my bot is supposed to listen to me
[07:39] <Kilos> ya on my channel but it says huh there too
[07:39] <inetpro> to many bots in this channel will result in peeps getting unhappy with all the noise
[07:39] <Kilos> grrr some more
[07:40] <Kilos> yes its not for here man
[07:40] <inetpro> QP: die
[07:40] <QP> inetpro: You're not the boss of me
[07:40] <inetpro> :-)
[07:40] <Kilos> haha
[07:40] <Kilos> qp leave #ubuntu-za
[08:06] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[08:07] <drussell> Kilos: heya
[08:10] <Kilos> uh oh net splits
[08:15] <sflr> good morning all!
[08:15] <Kilos> sflr, wb
[08:16] <Kilos> we thought you left the country
[08:16] <sflr> argh, close call. lol. I was off yesterday
[08:17] <Kilos> all ok sflr ?
[08:17] <sflr> yes Kilos. thanks for asking
[08:18] <Kilos> you are our new firestarter so we gotta look after you
[08:24] <sflr> haha. thanks Kilos
[09:34] <Ethiano69> elo 
[09:35] <Kilos> hi Ethiano69 
[09:36] <Ethiano69> do someone know where i can get an ubuntu CD?
[09:37] <Kilos> Maaz, get ubuntu
[09:37] <Maaz> Kilos: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "Home | Ubuntu"
[09:52] <Kilos> is that get ubuntu still correct guys or have i upset that guy now
[09:56] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[09:57] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[09:57] <superfly> Kilos: no, get ubuntu is fine
[09:58] <Kilos> yay so he went right place then. coulda said ty the twit
[09:58] <superfly> Kilos: he probably clicked on the link without realising it would redirect his web chat away from here
[09:59] <Kilos> ah shame
[09:59] <superfly> Kilos: he was on our website
[09:59]  * Kilos apologises
[09:59] <Kilos> good at least he can find cds now and hopefully gets ubuntu going
[10:01] <Kilos> oh me twigs he musta been on windows
[10:01] <Kilos> i can click links here and browser opens
[10:03] <Kilos> they lucky there is no popeye at ibid, he would eat spinach
[10:17] <zeref> hrrmmmm
[10:18] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[10:18] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[10:24] <sflr> Can I get Ubuntu on my Android phone? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[10:24] <sflr> or that is only for manufacturers :)
[10:25] <Kilos> someone here has done it i think
[10:40] <tumbleweed> sflr: for manufacturers
[10:40] <tumbleweed> but hopefully it'll be open at some point
[10:40] <tumbleweed> if cyanogenmod can support a bunch of popular phones, there's no reason this couldn't too
[10:51] <sflr> thanks tumbleweed. waiting for the day :)
[10:52] <tumbleweed> that's basically the question everyone asks when they see it being demeoed
[10:55] <Kilos> inetpro, plustwo wb
[10:57] <inetpro> Kilos: eh, thanks
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons
[11:13] <Maaz> Rys vleis en aartapels
[12:09] <Kilos> charl, do you still have the pastebin link to my curry
[12:24] <magespawn> Howdy, what up?
[12:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[12:31] <Kilos> my bot be kiff
[12:31] <magespawn> Cool Kilos
[12:48] <magespawn> What can it do now?
[12:51] <Kilos> it can get pta weather with ease
[12:52] <Kilos> dunno what other bugs have been repaired as well
[12:53] <superfly> Kilos: did you get a newer version of Ibid?
[12:53] <Kilos> yip from tumbles
[12:53] <Kilos> not the tarball
[12:54]  * tumbleweed fixed the daily builds
[12:54] <tumbleweed> although, they are now broken on precise and quantal for another reason...
[12:55] <Kilos> whew never ends hey
[12:55] <tumbleweed> a not entirely unrelated reason
[12:55] <tumbleweed> they were all to do with sqlalchemy 0.6 and later
[12:55] <superfly> tumbleweed: I'll just check out of bzr
[12:56] <tumbleweed> use sqlalchemy 0.5 and you'll be fine
[12:56] <superfly> tumbleweed: renaming of a submodule?
[12:56] <tumbleweed> lack of long-term backwards compatibility
[12:56] <tumbleweed> and we dig our teeth a little two deeply in it
[13:00] <superfly> right
[13:00] <superfly> I remember OpenLP had one or two issues which were easily fixed due to renamed submodules
[13:00] <tumbleweed> 0.6 removed functionality that we depended on
[13:01] <tumbleweed> we've been unabel to figure out how to run the tests that use teh DB since then
[13:02] <superfly> Ah
[13:02] <tumbleweed> we want to delete and re-create teh test DB between tests
[13:02] <tumbleweed> but sqlalchemy doesn't seem to allow us to do that any more
[13:03] <tumbleweed> (owing to our hevay use of declarative, and some reflection)
[13:03] <tumbleweed> *declarative table definitions
[13:07] <charl> Kilos: sorry am away from my laptop most of today
[13:07] <charl> Kilos: no unfortunately i don't have the link anymore
[13:08] <superfly> tumbleweed: no way you could have fudged SQLite's in-memory db stuff to do that?
[13:08] <Kilos> np charl  found it ty
[13:08] <Kilos> made a new one actually
[13:11] <tumbleweed> superfly: if you're interested http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefanor/ibid/sqlalchemy-0.6-trunk/view/head:/ibid/test/__init__.py#L85
[13:11] <tumbleweed> I seem to recall there being a good reason why we didn't use an in memory DB
[13:11] <tumbleweed> but I'd need to dig into logs
[13:11] <tumbleweed> anyway, that wouldn't actually help with the problems we ran into
[13:21] <Kilos> yo smile-uitgeslape 
[13:22] <charl> l8 all
[13:42] <smile-uitgeslape> hi Kilos :D
[13:43] <Kilos> thats a terribly long nick
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> ek wonder watter betekenis van uitgeslape daai is
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> want ek sien nie smile as 'n baie sneaky persoon nie
[13:48] <Kilos> haha
[13:48] <Kilos> skelm
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> net as iemand wat baie slaap
[13:55] <magespawn> Bbl y'all
[14:03] <Kilos> inetpro, changed some errors thanks to ian
[14:03] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s212wXEpKe
[14:03] <inetpro> huh?
[14:04] <inetpro> Kilos: wat het ek gedoen?
[14:06] <Kilos> sigh
[14:06] <Kilos> i made changes to the curry recipe man . i didnt see the faults
[14:07] <Kilos> he says maybe peeps wont know what imho is 
[14:07] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[14:07] <Kilos> then they can ask here
[14:09] <inetpro> Kilos: what you mean with "I dont like using the whole booby traps"?
[14:09] <Kilos> naaltjies
[14:09] <Kilos> het jy ooit een gebyt in kos
[14:09] <smile-uitgeslape> bye! :)
[14:09] <Kilos> cloves
[14:09] <Kilos> bye smile-uitgeslape 
[14:12] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh
[14:14] <Kilos> sjoe nou kan dit bly soos dit is booby traps uit
[14:14] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20MzWjMJt
[14:14] <Kilos> en slegte engels herstel
[15:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:24]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[15:28]  * Ludo is installing ubuntu and "forcing" it upon his parents
[15:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:29] <Kerbero> Ludo: about the same a what i did
[15:30] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:30] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[15:30] <Kilos> lol @ludo
[15:30] <Kilos> my highschool is having a 30 years reunion for 1983 matrics
[15:30] <Kilos> buncha ballies
[15:31] <Kerbero> were you one of them kilos?
[15:31] <Kilos> only 14 years after i left there
[15:31] <Kerbero> haha ok
[15:31] <Kilos> lol
[15:31] <Kerbero> dit maak jou omtrent net so oud soos my pa
[15:31] <Kerbero> :P
[15:31] <Kilos> hoe oud is hy?
[15:32] <Kerbero> ek dog ons noem eerder nie ouderdomme hier nie
[15:32] <Kilos> man ons is nie vrouens nie
[15:32] <Kilos> hulle steek dit weg
[16:42] <Kilos> yo smile 
[16:44] <Kilos> hi queery 
[16:46] <smile> hi :)
[16:46] <Kilos> what did you achieve today?
[16:47] <Kilos> are you a python expert yet smile ?
[16:50] <queery> hi oom Kilos
[16:59] <smile> Kilos: not yet! :D
[17:00] <smile> outputforscreen = raw_input(answer kilos)
[17:00] <smile> :p
[17:00] <smile> ^^
[17:10] <magespawn> Evening
[17:12] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:15] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[17:15] <magespawn> Kilos what did you do to your bot?
[17:24] <Kilos> did an upgrade
[17:24] <superfly> evening folks
[17:24] <Kilos> but i had to take a lucid package for maverick
[17:24] <Kilos> yo superfly 
[17:25] <Kilos> so i downgraded in an upwards direction
[17:26] <Kilos> magespawn, what release have you got
[17:26] <Kilos> natty and lucid are good. dunno if they fixed the later ones yet
[17:26] <magespawn> Not sure 11.04 i think
[17:26] <Kilos> ya thats natty
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ubuntu releases
[17:27] <Maaz> ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat), 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot), 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangol
[17:27] <Kilos> no karmic
[17:27]  * superfly always finds the latest version to be the best, but he uses Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[17:27] <Kilos> ya it is natty
[17:27] <Kilos> lol @ superfly 
[17:30] <Kerbero> where can i find portable penguin?
[17:30] <Kilos> must it have handles on
[17:30] <Kerbero> lol ja
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:31] <Kilos> yo Mezenir 
[17:31] <Kilos> what you wanna do with a penguin Kerbero 
[17:31] <Kerbero> kom ons antwoord dit eerder nie
[17:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:33] <Mezenir> hey kilos
[17:33] <Mezenir> and kerbero
[17:33] <Mezenir> how goes
[17:34] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:35] <Kilos> aw i forgot to fp last night
[17:44] <Mezenir> good good
[17:45] <Mezenir> same old same old
[17:45] <Mezenir> kerbero doesnt greet it seems
[17:51] <superfly> hi Mezenir
[17:52] <Kilos> superfly, do you also lose logs on #ibid
[17:52] <Kilos> no scroll back feature if you go off?
[17:52] <Mezenir> hey superfly
[17:52] <Mezenir> how goes
[18:09] <superfly> Mezenir: cold, tired, and busy
[18:10] <Mezenir> lol
[18:10] <Mezenir> take a night off ?
[18:17] <magespawn> Hey Mezenir, superfly
[18:19] <Mezenir> hey magespawn
[18:20] <superfly> Mezenir: there's no such thing as a night off from life
[18:20] <Kilos> ai you battling superfly ?
[18:20] <superfly> Kilos: no more than usual
[18:21] <magespawn> Anything in specific superfly?
[18:22] <superfly> magespawn: just too many late nights, a toddler who doesn't go to bed till late either, and lots of work to do on OpenLP before our final release in a few months
[18:23] <magespawn> I am quite lucky my yongest passes out early, it does become easier, the kid part at least.
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah when they get married
[18:24] <Kilos> then they just need money
[18:30] <smile> bye :p
[18:31] <magespawn> Later smile
[18:31] <smile> tot morgen :)
[18:31] <Kilos> cheers smile
[18:31] <Kilos> hmm
[18:44] <magespawn> After 18 or university they are not going to get much from me.
[18:46] <Kilos> haha
[18:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:56] <Kilos> gotta try catch up from last night