[08:30] <ailo> Newer version of qjackctl should be released and available in the repos now
[09:34] <ailo> astraljava: I started sketching out something for -controls here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
[09:35] <ailo> It's the outcome of what I did beginning of last year
[09:35] <ailo> Right now, the only thing that exists is an example app that creates a menu in the app-indicator area
[09:36] <ailo> What is missing is support for window managers that do not use app-indicator, and having the menu launch windows.
[09:36] <ailo> 2 windows need to be made: 1. system settings 2. help
[09:37] <ailo> astraljava: Where do you think the code should be hosted? launchpad? I have it on gitorious right now
[09:37] <ailo> I had a systems check script last year also, but it needs to be revamped.
[09:38] <ailo> Also, when we get further into system testing, we could start adding some system tweaks to the -controls for testing
[09:46] <astraljava> ailo: The privileges would be easier to manage in LP, and it'd provide better bug management etc.
[09:47] <astraljava> But in the end, it doesn't really matter.
[09:47] <astraljava> A project can always be added to LP where one tracks bugs and that sort of things. The code doesn't have to be there.
[10:11] <ailo> astraljava: There is already a ubuntustudio-controls in launchpad. I guess we should just use that then
[10:11] <ailo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls
[10:28] <astraljava> ailo: Hmm... cool. Now that Eric's back (he's stochastic, btw.), you guys can discuss whether there's anything in the old codebase that [sh|c]ould be merged. You could create a new series in that project nonetheless.
[10:30] <ailo> stochastic: Hey. We have planned to create a new ubuntustudio-controls
[10:32] <ailo> stochastic: I do believe we could reuse setting memory limit, however I wonder if that should be adjusted at each boot (since people tend to upgrade/downgrade RAM). Haven't investigated what problems that setting can cause. 
[10:33] <ailo> stochastic: I put up some ideas that have been cooking for some while, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
[10:37] <ailo> stochastic: There has been, and will be some system testing going on here, where we explore different possible system tweaks. Those that we'd like to have user control over, should end up in -controls
[10:38] <ailo> Right now, about the only thing I know for sure we want is to have the user be able to administer realtime privilege
[10:39] <ailo> Would be nice if one could do that for all users, selecting from a list
[10:41] <ailo> astraljava: len-dt: is there a amd64 version of UbuntuStudio Quantal available? Am I looking at the wrong places?
[10:41] <ailo> I'm installing using Ubuntu Alternative for now
[10:59] <astraljava> ailo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/
[10:59] <astraljava> ailo: Or rather: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/quantal-dvd-amd64.iso
[11:06] <ailo> Just under my nose :P
[11:15] <astraljava> URLs can be distracting and confusing. :D
[11:32] <ailo> hmm, my rt ticket for ubuntustudio-bigs mail list was closed, but I have not got any email about it
[11:33] <ailo> ubuntustudio-bugs*
[11:33] <ailo> Maybe it just takes a little while
[11:57] <astraljava> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntustudio-bugs
[12:03] <ailo> astraljava: That's weird. They haven't sent me the admin info. Damn, I must have given them the wrong email :(
[12:03] <ailo> knome: Do you know who to contact about that?
[12:04] <ailo> I must have given them kaj.ailomaa@mousike.com instead of kaj.ailomaa@mousike.me
[12:04] <astraljava> Ubuntustudio-bugs list run by kaj.ailomaa at mousike.com
[12:04] <astraljava> ailo: I'd file another RT ticket of it. :)
[12:08] <ailo> This is a mess
[12:08] <ailo> Now there are two tickets with the same name
[12:08] <ailo> I can't seem to delete them either
[12:09] <ailo> to <be able to>
[12:09] <ailo> I'm sure someone will be happy dealing with my tickets :(
[12:12] <astraljava> Oh but you can do what knome does. Go to #canonical-sysadmin and start nagging at them. :D
[12:12] <ailo> That sounds fun
[12:13] <astraljava> knome doesn't really get customer service. That's also a big part of why he has no customers. *grin*
[12:18] <ailo> Nice. They reset the admin details already
[12:26] <astraljava> That wasn't too hard.
[12:32] <ailo> Only no admin details have been sent to me yet :(
[12:33] <ailo> Well, I'll sort it out
[13:31] <len-dt> ailo, yesterdays ISO doesn't install you may want to wait a few hours for the new one.
[13:32] <knome> astraljava, ouch. :)
[13:38] <len-dt> ailo, it does boot ok on live and everything looks normal.
[13:56] <len-dt> ailo, I got email on the ubunquity crash bug: This bug is a duplicate of bug 1020574
[18:05] <ailo> len-dt: I'll just install using the alternate. Will do tomorrow. Need to set up a quantal system for development, etc.
[18:40] <ailo> The rt ticket is just getting messier by the minute
[18:40] <ailo> Now they tell me they sent me an email, and that my email server has accepted it, which was the correct one. Still, no email
[18:40] <ailo> I even restored deleted mail from 7 days back and did thorough searches
[18:43] <astraljava> ailo: Did you check the spam filters?
[19:20] <ailo> astraljava: Yeah. Nada
[19:29] <len-dt> ailo, there is a new ISO today, I'll try that.
[19:30] <len-dt> There were a lot of updates in yesterdays ISO, over 15% new stuff from the last good one.
[19:33] <len-dt> less than half  today.
[21:37] <len-dt> Our ISO seems to have gotten just a bit smaller.
[21:39] <ailo> Is it leaking?
[21:39] <ailo> Maybe it's melting in the summer heat
[21:39] <len-dt> :)
[21:40] <len-dt> I just hope it installs
[21:41] <ailo> I'm going to sleep. Went for a 100km bicycle ride today. Came home and looked in the mirror. White salt traces all over, and dead mosquitos on my forehead
[21:41] <ailo> Insane sport
[21:41] <len-dt> We used to look like mosquito fur... 
[21:42]  * len-dt rode through them at 100k/h on a harley
[21:42] <ailo> hehe
[21:43] <ailo> I was at around 60km/h at best, downhill. 
[21:44] <len-dt> They seem to rise just at sunset
[21:44] <ailo> Yeah, all though it wasn't really time for it yet. And not that many. Had some bees and flies bouncing of my teeth sometimes
[21:44] <ailo> Have to remember to keep the mouth somewhat closed
[21:44] <ailo> I sometimes get one in the throat
[21:45] <len-dt> Bees are ok, wasps are not.
[21:45] <ailo> I got one down my throat a couple of years ago
[21:45] <ailo> It left its stinger in the opening of the throat
[21:45] <len-dt> They were as surprised as you...
[21:45] <ailo> Had to carve it out with my nail
[21:46] <ailo> Probably. Accidents happen
[21:46] <len-dt> I haven't done so bad, got one up my sleeve, 5 stings at the elbow.
[21:46] <ailo> Still, not very comfortable
[21:47] <len-dt> I must have looked pretty funny slapping at my arm and trying to get my jacket off.
[21:47] <ailo> ok, GN then :)
[21:47] <len-dt> GN