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Fudgehi does the lp team  manage the http on developer.ubuntu.com01:10
huwshimiFudge: No, they do not.01:20
Fudgehuwshimi  thank you mate01:37
Fudgeare there packaging classes or help channels on freenode?01:37
lifelessFudge: there is #ubuntu-packaging01:37
Fudgelifeless  thanks :D01:37
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jheskethHi there02:06
jheskethI'm new to building deb packages and I'm having some trouble with the dailybeb builder02:06
jheskethIs this the right place to ask for some help?02:06
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lifelessjhesketh: kindof :) we'll steer you in the right direction if needed02:07
jheskethcool, thanks02:17
jheskethso the log is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/109349210/buildlog.txt.gz02:17
jheskethit seems to build okay on my machine but it only builds a .tar.gz using bzr dailydeb02:18
jheskeththe confusing part is the error looks like it is failing in the debian build:02:19
jhesketh  File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/debian_bundle/changelog.py", line 222, in parse_changelog02:19
jhesketh    for line in self._file.split('\n'):02:19
lifelessthats verra odd02:24
lifelesslet me consult.02:24
lifelesswgrant: ^02:24
wgrantlifeless: There's a bug for that.02:26
wgrantRecipe version 0.3 works, 0.4 does not02:26
wgrantTry just reverting to 0.302:26
wgrantjhesketh: ^^02:26
jheskeththanks wgrant, will do in a minute :-)02:26
wgrantBug #91550502:27
ubot5Launchpad bug 915505 in launchpad-buildd "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AttributeError: 'cStringIO.StringI' object has no attribute 'split'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91550502:27
Fudgedo openpgp keys have a private pair that should be kept?02:40
jheskethok, that's now building... however my recipe is only building a source only upload. How do I get it to create a .deb ?02:52
StevenKIt will build the source package next02:54
wgrantjhesketh: The recipe builds a source package, and then the source will be built into binaries.02:58
jheskeththanks guys, I think it was because I have a mistake in my control file02:59
jheskethHmm, now it's failing to upload with: Unhandled exception processing upload: too many values to unpack03:10
jheskethAny thoughts what that might be? https://code.launchpad.net/~eexam-core/+archive/eexam-repo/+recipebuild/26508903:10
wgrantjhesketh: Your Section is wrong03:14
wgranthttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eexam-core/eexam/daemon-packaging/view/head:/debian/control03:14
jheskethright, I just played around with that. What should I be using?03:14
jheskethppa or something?03:14
wgrant'Utilities (universe)' doesn't make sense. You might mean 'utils'03:14
wgranthttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections03:15
wgrantIt's in a PPA, so you shouldn't specify a component like universe.03:15
jheskethok thanks :-)03:16
jheskethwgrant: Thanks for your help. It seems to be building successfully now :-)03:26
wgrantjhesketh: Excellent.03:32
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khizer_\looking for openerp developers in India can anyone help?10:58
czajkowskikhizer_\: not sure this is the right place for that kinda of help11:01
khizer_\hmm any suggestions?11:02
czajkowskikhizer_\: a quick google shows http://www.openerp.com/irc/11:04
khizer_\thanks a lot11:05
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hertonhi, we are getting an unusually high repository size usage at canonical-kernel-team ppa (https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+packages). Right now is 24GiB, but even before with more packages it used less, we are hitting this first time this week.13:15
hertonAny known problem?13:15
hertonin fact using 23.4 GiB right now13:16
czajkowskiherton: not heard of any issues with ppas13:17
czajkowskiallenap: any idea where I could find that kinda issue out for herton ?13:18
allenapczajkowski: bigjools or wgrant would be the first people I would ask.13:19
allenapczajkowski: Failing that, it should go to the maintenance squad I think.13:19
czajkowskiallenap: cheers13:19
czajkowskijam: ping13:19
jamczajkowski: opng13:20
czajkowskijam: can you help looking into herton issue ?13:20
hertonczajkowski, jam: thanks. I just found it strange that we need so much space now, usually before that ppa with 16GB was enough for the packages, and we had more packages before sometimes, just making sure there isn't something else going on13:24
czajkowskiwell I've just increased your PPA also13:24
hertonwe even did a major cleanup on tuesday of old packages, and even with that we hit the size limit again today13:24
czajkowskias per the request on answers.13:24
hertonczajkowski, yep, luis henriques told me now13:25
jamherton: it appears to be involving a rather large number of packages all the way back to hardy, is there a reason you need hardy packages?13:33
hertonjam, yes, hardy is still in support, we have to produce kernel updates for it13:34
jamherton: powerpc as well?13:35
jam(and spac)13:35
jamsparc13:35
hertonjam, nothing changed for hardy that we know of, I think sparc and powerpc builds were always done13:36
hertonif the account of all packages is fine, then no problem. Just find strange that we hit this problem now. May be because of the addition of precise and armadaxp packages we got an size increase. But previously we had maverick that is not more produced, and fsl-imx51 and mvl-dove packages for lucid, and never surpassed the 16GB mark, even with hardy being pushed13:38
henrixherton: jam: yeah, there's a difference in this cycle: the hardy lum/lbm/lrm src packages. and lrm in particular is quite big (src pkg itself has ~150MB, iirc)13:39
henrixi have never prep'ed these 3 packages for hardy i believe13:40
henrixnot sure if these make the difference, though13:40
jamhenrix: so just looking at the hardy 'linux-image' files, is about 500MB13:42
jam       linux-image-3.2.0-27-omap-dbgsym_3.2.0-27.42_armel.ddeb          (289.6 MiB)                 linux-image-3.2.0-27-omap-dbgsym_3.2.0-27.42_armhf.ddeb          (289.5 MiB)13:42
jamhenrix: ^^ ?13:42
jamomap-dbgsym is about 10x larger than the next largest ones13:42
jam       linux-image-3.2.0-27-virtual-dbgsym_3.2.0-27.42_amd64.ddeb          (628.9 MiB)                 linux-image-3.2.0-27-virtual-dbgsym_3.2.0-27.42_i386.ddeb          (636.9 MiB)13:43
jameach 600+ mb13:43
henrixdebug symbols, i guess that's normal13:43
jamso each of those files is the size of all of hardy13:43
jamhenrix: the hardy debug images are only 20MB13:43
jamnot 60013:43
jamI'm not sure what virtual vs omap is.13:44
henrixomap is for ARM (mainly pandaboard)13:44
jamah, generic is also 600MB, etc.13:45
jamhenrix: so you have about 10 of those 600MB files, that gets you a lot of the 24G quota13:45
hertonhenrix, hmm, there was some patch from Chris for debug packages, that may account for the big size on precise now13:45
jamI don't really know what to say about it. If you need them, then we need the space...13:45
jamherton: there doesn't seem to be any 'dbgsym' files in Oneiric13:46
jamah nm, just needed to search farther, just a sec13:46
henrixherton: ah, that's true! i remember now. but... these sizes (~600MB) look correct to me. does this mean we were not building them before?13:46
hertonjam, we always had debug packages, yes someof them are large13:46
hertonbut we had some change in this cycle on precise, that may have increased size of precise pkgs13:47
jamherton: in Lucid they are more like 400M, in NOP they are 600+MB, they aren't in H that I can see.13:47
jamherton, henrix: So I can help you figure out why you're consuming space, I'm not really in the place to say whether it is needed or not, or whether you can just increase your limit.13:49
henrixok, i'll try to figure out if chris's patch is responsible for this.13:50
jamI see a bunch of stuff published within the last day13:50
jamand I can imagine that there is a period of time where you have CURRENT and OLD at the same time13:51
jam(if not OLD+1... as well)13:51
hertonjam, thanks. The tendency with newer kernels is for debug packages to be large, since there are more code etc. Just this suddenly this space usage was strange, but we will try to investigate more. We always produced the debug packages as far as I know13:51
jamI'm told we expire fairly strongly13:51
jamherton: sure, nothing stands out to me as vastly different than before13:51
jammy best guess would actually be something about not expiring fast enough.13:52
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joeyjam: are you the right person to escalate bzr issues to?15:08
joeyjam:  "bzr broke a few months ago and will no longer merge between the lp:gcc/4.7 and lp:gcc-linaro/4.7 branches."15:09
joeyczajkowski: ^^15:09
joeyjam: I'm working on getting the bug number for that15:10
mgz'broke' is helpful.15:10
joeyjam: I do have the traceback in an email15:10
joeyjam: and I have the manual merge instructions here:  https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/BzrTips#How_to_do_a_manual_bzr_merge_when_.22bzr_merge.22_fails15:11
czajkowskijoey: with bzr stuff I tend to look to the blue squad they know it pretty well :)15:11
joeyYeah, although I find the whole squad idea to be awkward :-)15:12
czajkowskijoey: nope I love it!15:13
czajkowskiit's really cool to see and can keep a team motivated15:13
joeyah well I'm glad it's working then15:13
joey:-)15:13
ailoHi, I'm trying to forward bug reports to a mail list at lists.ubuntu.com. I tried using the list as a contact adress, but that didn't seem to work.15:24
czajkowskiailo: why are you doing that ?15:25
ailoI'm using a team to subscribe to bug reports, and would like them to be forwarded to a mail list15:25
czajkowskiailo: anyone subscribed to the bug can get the bug mail, plus they can also edit their settings15:26
czajkowskido you own the team ?15:26
ailoThe team is ~ubuntustudio-bugs, and the mail list is also ubuntustudio-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com. I am admin of both15:26
czajkowskiso the team being added will be enough15:26
czajkowskithen a person can control their own bug mail15:27
ailoI realize that, but I would still like to know if it is possible to redirect bug reports to a mail list at lists.ubuntu.com15:27
ailoHow does Ubuntu do it?15:27
czajkowskiI dont know of any such list tbh,15:28
czajkowskican you give me an example15:28
ailoYou don't know of ubuntustudio-bugs, or ubuntu-bugs?15:29
czajkowskiI know of the latter15:31
czajkowskithere is a bug squad for it15:31
ailoubuntustudio-bugs was created this week15:31
ailohttp://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntustudio-bugs15:32
czajkowskiailo: I still don't understand why you won't just add people to that team, and then sub the team, and then let people chose how much bug mail they wish to get.15:32
ailoWell, that was not what I was asking for15:33
ailoI'm looking at this possibility, and just trying to see if it is posible, and how15:33
ailoSeems like it's working now15:35
sinzuiailo, Lp does not support redirects. You can set that address as a team's contact address and Lp will ask you to confirm you control the address. After that, you can subscribe the team to bugs to get all bug mail.15:36
ailoYep, that's what I did. I was just confused about the test mails I got. I now see that there is a bounces@canonical.com in the header15:37
ailoI thought I was getting them directly from launchpad15:37
sinzuiailo, We advise you not to do that. ubuntu-bugs's approach is the leading cause of private  email addresses being leaks to the world15:37
sinzuipeople will hate you15:37
ailosinzui: So, how does that happen?15:38
czajkowskisinzui: indeed, am less likely to be involved in a team that does that15:38
sinzuiYour list archive  is a public archive. any spammer can scrape the pages to collect email address in the body of the page15:39
ailoOk, so it's not something specific to launchpad. More like a general problem with public mail lists15:41
sinzuiailo, correct.15:41
sinzuiUsers should subscribe to get email, not teams. In your case, you are at least redirecting the team emails to an address to reduce unwanted email, but the emails are stored in a public location :(15:42
ailoWhat is the best way to filter emails from launchpad teams?15:44
ailoI'd say the problem is hard to get around either way, since probably anyone wanting to subscribe to bug reports will likely be subscribing to a public email list anyway15:47
ailoI guess this header is a good one for bug reports: X-launchpad-bug: product=ubuntustudio;15:47
ailoWould be great to have a header specific to the team also. Maybe there is?15:49
ailoThere's a nice help section on launchpad bug reports here V15:53
ailohttps://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Subscriptions/#Bug_mail_headers15:53
ailoAs an alternative to a mail list, it might do ok15:53
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rmkRunning into an issue whereby I request a forgotten password, then receive an email stating the account doesn't exist.  However, I know the account exists, I just sent a message via launchpad and it arrived at the exact email address I am using to retrieve the password.18:09
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dobeyrmk: what launchpad username?18:45
lifelessrmk: dobey: LP doesn't handle passwords at all.18:53
lifelessThats Ubuntu SSO, there is a link to their support forums on the login.launchpad.net /login.ubuntu.com pages. Or you can see #canonical-isd on this IRC server.18:54
lifelessrmk: ^18:54
dobeyright18:54
lifelessrmk: the reason LP knows your email and SSo doesn't is that you've added it to LP to your account, but not to SSO.18:54
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dobeyrmk: ^^ see what lifeless said19:40
rmkI see, ok thanks.19:40
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ivaldihi - i have some issue with the LP api - http://pastebin.com/i5n5jDJr - why is len(activities) == 35 when activities itsel is actually empty (or more precisely: why is activites is empty even when it shouldn't)?21:50

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