| ubuntuuk-planet | [Stuart Langridge] Together in electric fags - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/07/05/together-in-electric-fags | 02:18 |
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| popey | morning | 07:17 |
| dwatkins | hiya | 07:22 |
| christel | morning lovelies | 07:29 |
| DJones | Morning all | 07:31 |
| jacobw | morning all | 07:40 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:57 |
| === KillerJim|Away is now known as KillerJim | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:10 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:26 |
| AlanBell | morning czajkowski | 08:30 |
| popey | yo | 08:32 |
| czajkowski | my inbox looks like a disaster zone | 08:33 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 08:33 |
| czajkowski | busy day ahead | 08:33 |
| Songtao | hello | 08:36 |
| Songtao | my google-chrome not start in ubuntu 12.04, I tried strace it | 08:36 |
| Songtao | the end line message is: recvmsg(7, | 08:37 |
| Songtao | and stop | 08:37 |
| bigcalm | Songtao: does it work if you rename ~/.config/chromium/ to something else so that it creates a new config? | 08:38 |
| Songtao | -- SIGWINCH (Window changed) @ 0 (0) --- | 08:38 |
| Songtao | recvmsg(7, 0xbfbfe5c8, 0) = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted) | 08:38 |
| Songtao | --- SIGWINCH (Window changed) @ 0 (0) --- | 08:38 |
| Songtao | recvmsg(7, | 08:38 |
| bigcalm | !paste | Songtao | 08:39 |
| lubotu3 | Songtao: Pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 08:39 |
| === Killerjim is now known as KillerJim | ||
| Songtao | sorry | 08:39 |
| bigcalm | :) | 08:39 |
| Songtao | there is no chromium under .config | 08:40 |
| Songtao | because the trace message dose not mean anything to me, I tried strace on a working pc, the end line message should be: sigreturn() | 08:42 |
| Songtao | exit_group(0) | 08:42 |
| bigcalm | Songtao: did you compile from source or install via the Ubuntu Software Centre? | 08:46 |
| popey | bigcalm, where do you get the google chrome source? :) | 08:46 |
| popey | note chrome, not chromium | 08:47 |
| bigcalm | popey: I have no idea :) I'm just speculating | 08:47 |
| popey | heh | 08:47 |
| popey | excellent, we need more wild speculation here! | 08:47 |
| bigcalm | popey: I run chromium here, installed via USC. But I still call is chrome | 08:47 |
| bigcalm | s/is/it/ | 08:48 |
| Songtao | bigcalm, I just download it from google, and install it by ubuntu software centre | 08:48 |
| bigcalm | Songtao: that could be a good pointer as to why it's not working | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | Mornin' all! :) | 08:48 |
| bigcalm | Songtao: you will need to remove the package you installed and then look for "Chromium" in the USC. It's a version of Chrome that works perfectly (mostly) in Ubuntu | 08:49 |
| popey | no no no | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | No? | 08:49 |
| JamesTait | No no there's no limit? | 08:49 |
| popey | chrome from google is fine | 08:49 |
| * bigcalm goes back to his code | 08:49 | |
| popey | Songtao, dpkg -l google-chrome* | 08:49 |
| popey | :) | 08:49 |
| Songtao | but I got another pc, which got google-chrome and chromium, they all working fine | 08:51 |
| popey | Songtao, are you on the pc with the chrome issue now? | 08:52 |
| Songtao | lubotu3, :-D I could not find a way to post a new topic ? | 08:53 |
| lubotu3 | Songtao: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 08:53 |
| popey | Songtao are you on the computer right now? | 08:54 |
| Songtao | yes | 08:55 |
| Songtao | I am on it by ssh | 08:55 |
| popey | Songtao, can you please run dpkg -l google-chrome* | 08:57 |
| popey | and pastebin the output | 08:57 |
| Songtao | :-D, where do I post the output on pastebin ? I followed the url http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/, but did not find a way to post a new topic:-[ | 08:58 |
| dwatkins | !pastebin | 08:59 |
| lubotu3 | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:59 |
| dwatkins | hope that helps :) | 08:59 |
| Songtao | found it: | 09:05 |
| Songtao | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076091/ | 09:05 |
| Songtao | this is the output for runing sudo dpkg -l google-chrome | 09:05 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:05 |
| DJones | If anybody is heading on the M6 today, might be an idea not to reports of the M6 being closed due to a suspect package with armed police in attendance and a chemical spill on teh M6 Toll, I suspect its all one incident and its just the M6 toll looking at other reports though | 09:06 |
| popey | Songtao, thats not what I asked.. you missed the star off the end | 09:07 |
| Laney | and you don't need sudo. | 09:08 |
| Songtao | that is all | 09:08 |
| Songtao | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076096/ | 09:09 |
| Songtao | this is all message I got:) | 09:09 |
| mattt | DJones: interesting | 09:10 |
| dwatkins | Today I learned that you can specify wildcards in dpkg -l, thanks to popey. | 09:11 |
| popey | Songtao, again.. you missed the star | 09:11 |
| popey | dpkg -l google-chrome* | 09:12 |
| Songtao | ha, got it | 09:12 |
| Songtao | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076099/ | 09:12 |
| Songtao | I am stupid | 09:12 |
| popey | nah | 09:12 |
| popey | ok, so chrome is installed, yay | 09:13 |
| DJones | mattt: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-18719962#TWEET169050 | 09:15 |
| dwatkins | I'm always surprised at the number of people who use the M6 toll. | 09:16 |
| mattt | "The Highways Agency said traffic was stationary and the closure was likely to remain in place until early afternoon." | 09:17 |
| mattt | OUCH! | 09:17 |
| mattt | err ouch :) | 09:17 |
| dwatkins | they'll lose a lot of money, I wonder why they stopped the coach. | 09:18 |
| whiskers_ | coo | 09:18 |
| diplo | I know a few people who use the toll, just because its emptier | 09:19 |
| Songtao | Here is the strace output for google-chrome, this is far away out my understanding. | 09:22 |
| Songtao | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076109/. | 09:22 |
| bigcalm | Without the strace. What happens when you try to run chrome from the cli? | 09:23 |
| Songtao | just stop response | 09:25 |
| bigcalm | Can you pastebin the result? | 09:26 |
| Songtao | what result? | 09:27 |
| Songtao | run from cli ? | 09:27 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 09:27 |
| Songtao | $google-chrome | 09:29 |
| Songtao | that is it:) | 09:29 |
| bigcalm | Ok, thanks. Wondered if there was anything one could google against | 09:29 |
| * bigcalm goes back to his code again | 09:29 | |
| Songtao | thanks for everyone | 09:30 |
| * AlanBell heads out to lunch www.simpsonsinthestrand.co.uk | 09:44 | |
| bigcalm | Swanky | 09:45 |
| bigcalm | OpenERP? | 09:45 |
| bigcalm | And isn't it a bit early for lunch? | 09:50 |
| popey | nice | 09:51 |
| gord | its never too early for lunch | 09:51 |
| bigcalm | But if you have lunch too early, you have a long wait for tea | 09:52 |
| gord | have a second lunch | 09:52 |
| bigcalm | A good lunch puts me to sleep ;) | 09:52 |
| jpds | bigcalm: So you'll be sleeping while waiting. | 09:53 |
| bigcalm | jpds: rather than working | 09:53 |
| bigcalm | Actually, that sounds appealing | 09:53 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 10:03 |
| bigcalm | morning davmor2 | 10:06 |
| AlanBell | choo choo | 10:06 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: using Geany, it's ok but has things that bug me. All IDEs bug me in different ways. Maybe this one will bug me less than others | 10:08 |
| gord | bigcalm: tried sublime? | 10:08 |
| gord | geany/sublime are really only text editors not IDEs | 10:08 |
| bigcalm | gord: no, wassat? | 10:08 |
| gord | its a really nice text editor, if thats all you want, its great | 10:09 |
| gord | http://www.sublimetext.com/ | 10:09 |
| bigcalm | gord: indeed, I get that feeling. But davmor2 was singing its praises, so I'm giving it a go | 10:09 |
| gord | yeah i used to use geany way back, its fine | 10:09 |
| davmor2 | gord: bigcalm is used to things like netbeans | 10:09 |
| bigcalm | And Eclipse | 10:09 |
| bigcalm | And PhpEd | 10:09 |
| gord | then use those :P | 10:10 |
| bigcalm | As I say, every one has things that bug me. But I'm open to trying new ones to see what I like | 10:10 |
| gord | crazy people who don't use vim | 10:11 |
| bigcalm | Indeed | 10:11 |
| bigcalm | One day I'll try using VIM as an IDE | 10:11 |
| bigcalm | We'll see | 10:12 |
| gord | what i like about sublime is it takes the most useful features of vim and puts them in a nice gui package, the multiple selections and stuff you see on the main page http://www.sublimetext.com/ | 10:12 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: you'd be an emacs abuser | 10:12 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: never used emacs so can't comment | 10:13 |
| diplo | notepad++ in wine bigcalm :) | 10:18 |
| diplo | gedit is also quite good | 10:18 |
| bigcalm | diplo: I have paid for TextPad. I used that for a long time :) | 10:18 |
| diplo | Keep going back to netbeans though, if it wasn't so heavy I think i'd stay with it | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | diplo: I just use NetBeans for PHP, so it's quite light | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | diplo: a lot lighter than Eclipse | 10:19 |
| diplo | yeah so do i, but it still uses huge amount of mem | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | What's the python IDE of choice? | 10:19 |
| diplo | yeah never got on with eclipse | 10:20 |
| diplo | vim/geany/gedit | 10:20 |
| diplo | I've never tried a dedicated one and tbh not tried any python in Netbeans | 10:20 |
| bigcalm | Eclipse has all of the features I know and love. But it just wibbles itself to death when given large projects to manage | 10:20 |
| diplo | But overall I'm the same as you, all ides/editors have peaves | 10:23 |
| gord | bigcalm: komodo was good last i tried python | 10:25 |
| dogmatic69 | What would be better for NAS, 7200rpm 16mb buffer or 5400rpm 32mb buffer HDD? | 10:25 |
| diplo | That's the other one i use gord / bigcalm | 10:26 |
| bigcalm | gord: when I get around to learning python, I'll give it a go ta | 10:26 |
| diplo | Use it home most of the time | 10:26 |
| dwatkins | dogmatic69: I suspect the throughput of the network interface is a much more important factor | 10:35 |
| dwatkins | check what the bottlenecks are and you'll probably find that reading from the disk is much faster than anything else | 10:36 |
| dogmatic69 | dwatkins: its a gigabit | 10:36 |
| dwatkins | so about 100 Megabytes per second? | 10:37 |
| dogmatic69 | I guess about there | 10:38 |
| dwatkins | a SATA 3.0 disk will output 6 Gbit/s, i.e. 768 Megabytes per second | 10:39 |
| dogmatic69 | its SATAII | 10:40 |
| dwatkins | ah ok, only 384 Megabytes per second | 10:40 |
| dogmatic69 | ye | 10:40 |
| dwatkins | so the question is whether you can maximise the disk's throughput for a 5400 rpm disk | 10:40 |
| dogmatic69 | I guess the CAT5 will be flooded long before the drive is | 10:41 |
| dwatkins | or if at 5400 rpm, you're limited to a much lower input or output speed which makes it slower than the network can deliver | 10:41 |
| dwatkins | indeed, unless it's really slow, which I doubt - I'd be interested to see some figures on this, though. | 10:41 |
| dogmatic69 | oh, also its RAID 5 possibly | 10:41 |
| dwatkins | also depends on the nature of the data, seek speed etc. of course | 10:41 |
| dogmatic69 | 4 drives | 10:41 |
| dwatkins | so you have the additional factor of the throughput of the RAID array | 10:42 |
| dogmatic69 | raid something, not decided | 10:42 |
| dwatkins | think of it as a series of tubes ;) | 10:42 |
| dogmatic69 | sounds more like pipes, and the cat5 is a straw :/ | 10:42 |
| dwatkins | perhaps, but you could also potentially combine gigabit interfaces if your switch allows it. | 10:43 |
| dogmatic69 | not currently | 10:43 |
| dogmatic69 | I think the nas has 2x eth, but think its for redundancy | 10:44 |
| dwatkins | My 'NAS' is a netbook with a USB-attached 2 TB disk. I don't care that it's a bit slow, since it manages to play the media I want without any problem. | 10:44 |
| dogmatic69 | :) | 10:44 |
| dwatkins | I also sometimes run applications on it graphically, that's when the Atom CPU really shows how slow it is ;) | 10:45 |
| dwatkins | especially HandBrake | 10:45 |
| gord | tbh, i'll take cache over drive speed any day | 10:47 |
| gord | i've seen 5400rpm drives outperform some of my 7200 drives in benchmarks because of better caching | 10:47 |
| diplo | I've got 5400's in my Microserver | 10:48 |
| diplo | Work well for me | 10:48 |
| directhex | i have a decent 5900rpm drive | 10:49 |
| directhex | or maybe my wife does | 10:49 |
| directhex | either way, an old 7200rpm drive is no guarantee of fast | 10:49 |
| dogmatic69 | the 5400rpm drive is slightly more expensive too, sign of being better I guess | 10:59 |
| popey | not sure what speed my microserver drives are.. | 11:00 |
| bigcalm | Miss-read as microwave | 11:00 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 11:01 |
| popey | ST2000DL003-9VT166 | 11:01 |
| dogmatic69 | my nas says max 4x 500gb drives :( | 11:02 |
| popey | ooh, nice, smartctl tells me some of my drives shouldn't be touched | 11:02 |
| popey | "==> WARNING: Using smartmontools or hdparm with this | 11:02 |
| popey | drive may result in data loss due to a firmware bug. | 11:02 |
| popey | ****** THIS DRIVE MAY OR MAY NOT BE AFFECTED! ****** | 11:02 |
| popey | " | 11:02 |
| bigcalm | How do I check the health of my RAID1? | 11:02 |
| popey | cat /proc/mdstat | 11:02 |
| bigcalm | Then what am I looking for? | 11:03 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076217/ | 11:03 |
| gord | sigh, reminds me. have to replace a drive in my raid. its now twice the price i paid for it originally :( | 11:05 |
| bigcalm | Ouchie | 11:05 |
| mattt | bigcalm: looks ok ? | 11:07 |
| directhex | popey, oh, i think i was hit with that | 11:07 |
| popey | i haven't updated mine :S | 11:07 |
| directhex | popey, had to retire a drive with that warning, due to bad sectors | 11:07 |
| directhex | popey, i failed to find the firmware, since the url on the smartmontools site is dead | 11:08 |
| bigcalm | mattt: that's the point, I have no idea either way :) | 11:08 |
| mattt | bigcalm: no, it's def. OK | 11:08 |
| bigcalm | Good good | 11:08 |
| popey | [UU] is good | 11:08 |
| popey | [_U] isnt :) | 11:08 |
| mattt | and [2/2] | 11:08 |
| mattt | [0/2] would be ungood | 11:08 |
| * mattt is afk | 11:09 | |
| MartijnVdS | [O_o] | 11:13 |
| * BigRedS wonders what he'd need to do to md to get that | 11:24 | |
| bigcalm | ? | 11:24 |
| BigRedS | [O_o] | 11:24 |
| BigRedS | I just like the thought of getting an SMS from nagios with that in it | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | Ah | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | I'm going to have to put that into my error responses | 11:32 |
| mattt | :) | 11:36 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| czajkowski | gord: where did you get the bendy legs from ? | 13:20 |
| gord | amazon | 13:21 |
| gord | i have amazon prime, if i get something and its not from amazon, its because it wasn't on amazon ;) | 13:21 |
| czajkowski | gord: linkafy me | 13:22 |
| bigcalm | Oh, a gollapod | 13:22 |
| bigcalm | gorillapod even | 13:23 |
| gord | czajkowski: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002FGTWOC | 13:25 |
| bigcalm | czajkowski: I know a system you could have searched for that product with ;) | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | bendy legs wasnt doig it for me:) | 13:27 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 13:27 |
| bigcalm | Vodka gives me bendy legs | 13:27 |
| gord | oh hey cool, its slightly cheeper than when i orderd it yesterday >:( | 13:27 |
| bigcalm | czajkowski: they come in various sizes. The one gord linked to is to cope with the weight of an SLR and big lenses | 13:28 |
| czajkowski | nods | 13:28 |
| czajkowski | I have a DSLR | 13:28 |
| bigcalm | Yay | 13:28 |
| bigcalm | I have one that doesn't get near enough usage these days | 13:28 |
| bigcalm | Though I did enjoy shooting Hayley in the garden recently | 13:29 |
| gord | had a play during lunch, worked really well with my Canon 600D's built in exposure bracketing, takes three pictures rapidly at different expsures, then you build that into an hdr image | 13:29 |
| bigcalm | Ug | 13:29 |
| bigcalm | HDR is horrible when done by the masses :( | 13:30 |
| bigcalm | Which is why I've kept away from it | 13:30 |
| gord | well sure, if you try and make something striking with it, it looks terrible. however if all you want to do is take a photo of a nice landscape and not have the sky completely blow out on you or the landscape be super dark, its great | 13:30 |
| gord | 8-bits just ain't enough to represent the world as we see it | 13:31 |
| bigcalm | I agree :) | 13:31 |
| bigcalm | I'm terrible at splicing images together | 13:31 |
| bigcalm | Oh, but I have taken some shots for autostitch to play with | 13:32 |
| gord | and of course, every HDR shot i take for the next 1000 or so pictures will be gawd awful, like everything photography related, its only the 1001'st shot that ends up looking okay ;) | 13:32 |
| bigcalm | I'm glad I have my roots in film :) | 13:32 |
| jacobw | are any applications packaged in ubuntu for wine? | 13:39 |
| jacobw | i'm working on packaging a windows application for use with wine for ubuntu desktops and looking for previous attempts | 13:40 |
| gord | didn't one of the humble bumble games do that or something? | 13:41 |
| Laney | jacobw: pre-compiled? | 13:41 |
| DJones | Wasn't the google picassa application for ubuntu just the windows version with a wine wrapper around | 13:44 |
| Laney | if it's binaries then the package amounts to just copying them into place with a shell script wrapper to launch the program under wine and a desktop file. | 13:46 |
| popey | Limbo is a wine bottle | 13:51 |
| popey | jacobw, ^^ | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | mmm wine | 13:57 |
| * AlanBell just had some rather good wine | 13:57 | |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: business lunch? | 13:59 |
| bigcalm | popey: what prog do you use to take images with your webcam? | 14:02 |
| === Twinkletoes_ is now known as Twinkletoes | ||
| AlanBell | Pendulum: yes, a working lunch ;) | 14:05 |
| popey | !info webcam | 14:05 |
| lubotu3 | webcam (source: xawtv): image grabber and uploader. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.102-3 (precise), package size 36 kB, installed size 117 kB | 14:05 |
| popey | ^^ bigcalm | 14:05 |
| popey | sudo apt-get install webcam :) | 14:05 |
| popey | sans smiles | 14:06 |
| popey | https://www.google.com/search?q=popey+webcam | 14:06 |
| popey | :D | 14:06 |
| bigcalm | :) | 14:06 |
| diplo | I used that after the popey's blog | 14:12 |
| diplo | Worked really well | 14:12 |
| diplo | Not used it recently though | 14:12 |
| jacobw | Laney: yeah | 14:15 |
| jacobw | Laney: assuming you mean that i'm distributig windows binaries only | 14:15 |
| bigcalm | It's segfaulting on me :( | 14:19 |
| diplo | webcam ? | 14:19 |
| bigcalm | uploading.jpeg => webcam.jpg | 14:20 |
| bigcalm | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 14:20 |
| diplo | Precise ? | 14:20 |
| bigcalm | Same for both the webcam in the laptop and the external usb one | 14:20 |
| bigcalm | diplo: yes | 14:20 |
| diplo | Want me to test here, can install/setup | 14:20 |
| diplo | ? | 14:20 |
| bigcalm | Please do :) | 14:20 |
| diplo | installing... | 14:21 |
| diplo | What were you trying to upload to, so I can re-create | 14:21 |
| bigcalm | Oh, hold on :) | 14:21 |
| bigcalm | A local machine | 14:22 |
| bigcalm | referred to by name | 14:22 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076489/ | 14:23 |
| diplo | OK, got file created | 14:24 |
| diplo | next part | 14:24 |
| diplo | Worked for me :) | 14:29 |
| diplo | only difference is mine was by ip and root on a centos box ( all i had spare ) | 14:30 |
| bigcalm | :( | 14:30 |
| diplo | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 72284 Jul 5 16:30 webcam.jpg | 14:30 |
| diplo | [root@ccompaq webcam]# ls -ltr | 14:30 |
| diplo | total 84 | 14:30 |
| diplo | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 82983 Jul 5 16:31 webcam.jpg | 14:30 |
| diplo | Not permissions or something | 14:32 |
| popey | i reduced the delay = 6 to delay =0 :) | 14:32 |
| popey | now I get LOTS of images | 14:32 |
| popey | alan@homeserver:/srv/webcam/archive/2012/07/05/14$ ls -l | wc -l | 14:32 |
| popey | 2825 | 14:32 |
| popey | per hour | 14:32 |
| popey | alan@homeserver:/srv/webcam/archive/2012/07/05/14$ du -hs . | 14:32 |
| popey | 304M | 14:32 |
| popey | :D | 14:32 |
| diplo | heh | 14:33 |
| diplo | Cron to clean it quite often i hope | 14:33 |
| popey | -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 65M Jul 5 15:11 2012070514.avi | 14:33 |
| popey | monster hourly videos too now | 14:33 |
| popey | they were about 8MB | 14:33 |
| dogmatic69 | popey: thanks, been looking for a command to get the size of a dir :D | 14:34 |
| popey | heh | 14:34 |
| gord | you might as well just start recording videos instead of pictures :P | 14:34 |
| popey | yeah, at 1fps | 14:34 |
| popey | not far off.. 3600 per hour.. | 14:34 |
| popey | i might drop the threshold for an hour and see how many pics I get | 14:35 |
| popey | more than 1/sec I bet | 14:35 |
| gord | oh its based on movement? | 14:35 |
| popey | it can be | 14:35 |
| gord | well i guess difference since the last image taken | 14:35 |
| popey | you set a threshold, if movement goes over the value it snaps a pic, if not, it ignores it | 14:35 |
| popey | yes | 14:36 |
| gord | watch you don't start entering the territory of it just picking up noise | 14:36 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076508/ | 14:36 |
| popey | i have a terminal full of that | 14:36 |
| popey | threshold is 120 | 14:36 |
| popey | if I up it a bit I'll get fewer images | 14:36 |
| bigcalm | Does webcam work with uvc? | 14:38 |
| Azelphur | Just bought one of these, http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/accessories/recon/ gonna try and write cross platform drivers for it :D | 14:39 |
| popey | bigcalm, no idea, does uvc present a /dev/video0 ? | 14:41 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 14:42 |
| popey | should do | 14:42 |
| popey | is it not worky? | 14:42 |
| bigcalm | It's seg faulting | 14:42 |
| popey | pastebin your config sans user/passwords | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | I'm having a look at using an prog that I had a hand in making back in g2006 | 14:43 |
| popey | i have had it segfault here | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076489/ | 14:43 |
| popey | in the terminal you ran webcam, can you scp a file to /home/iain/www_dump/webcam | 14:44 |
| popey | with no password prompt? | 14:44 |
| bigcalm | No, it will ask for a password as I haven't set up keys | 14:45 |
| bigcalm | Isn't that the point of adding username and password to the config file? | 14:46 |
| diplo | Dunno, I set up ssh keys before trying | 14:46 |
| diplo | :) | 14:46 |
| bigcalm | Ug | 14:47 |
| diplo | Is it not for FTP ? set ssh=0 and ftp client may work ? | 14:47 |
| popey | you can do ftp if you want | 14:47 |
| popey | i use ssh | 14:47 |
| bigcalm | Except I don't have an ftpd running | 14:47 |
| popey | but have keys setup | 14:47 |
| diplo | I used ssh as well | 14:47 |
| diplo | keys take 2 seconds bigcalm | 14:47 |
| popey | and load the key before I run webcam | 14:47 |
| diplo | Dooooooo iiiiittttttttt. | 14:47 |
| bigcalm | So what are the username and password fields for? | 14:48 |
| diplo | ftp I'd guess | 14:48 |
| diplo | multi user config | 14:48 |
| diplo | So need the username for ssh | 14:48 |
| diplo | Guy who wrote it hasn't referenced anything on his website about webcam software.. lots of others | 14:51 |
| diplo | man webcam isn't specific either | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | It install a public key on a server, I just copy it into ~/.ssh ? | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | s/It/To/ | 14:52 |
| popey | no | 14:54 |
| popey | ssh-copy-id hostname | 14:54 |
| popey | it will do it for you | 14:54 |
| bigcalm | Doh, append it to authorised_keys | 14:54 |
| bigcalm | Silly me | 14:54 |
| popey | ssh-copy-id does the same | 14:54 |
| popey | just easier :D | 14:54 |
| bigcalm | ssh -i insecure_rsa iain@proliant | 14:56 |
| bigcalm | That works at last | 14:56 |
| bigcalm | So, can I pass -i and the key to webcam? | 14:57 |
| diplo | Do you create seperate keys for different servers ? | 14:57 |
| bigcalm | I tend to, yes | 14:58 |
| diplo | I think I am just lazy, 95% of mine are internal servers anyhoo | 14:58 |
| bigcalm | This key I just created has no pass phrase, so I don't want to use it other than for this | 14:58 |
| bigcalm | Maybe I can run an export line before running webcam | 14:59 |
| bigcalm | Is there a environment variable to set the default key to be used? | 15:00 |
| popey | aquarius, heard the news that the bus pulled over on the m6 was because of vapour from an e-cig :D | 15:02 |
| aquarius | popey, t's a trap! | 15:03 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 15:03 |
| brobostigon | lol, very funny. | 15:03 |
| diplo | aquarius: I read your blog post, I just recently re-gave up after starting again for last 2 years or so | 15:03 |
| diplo | I know a few who have got addicted to the e-fags so just beware | 15:03 |
| aquarius | better than being addicted to real fags | 15:04 |
| bigcalm | Last night I dreamt that I was smoking again. I always wake up feeling very guilty from such dreams | 15:05 |
| dogmatic69 | http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1939809007 lol | 15:06 |
| diplo | yeah, I'm 5 months ( on the 14th ) clear now | 15:07 |
| diplo | Was 12 years prior to starting again :( | 15:07 |
| bigcalm | 26th August will see my 10th year of no ciggies | 15:08 |
| diplo | Was harder to give up the second time from 5-10 a day from when i gave up before @ 60 a day | 15:08 |
| diplo | So prompt you to never get back into it, it's hell! | 15:08 |
| diplo | :) | 15:08 |
| bigcalm | Ug | 15:09 |
| * dogmatic69 needs to quit the habit :/ | 15:09 | |
| popey | \o/ never smoked | 15:09 |
| bigcalm | No chance of me starting again, just in my dreams that it annoys me | 15:09 |
| dogmatic69 | popey: dont start :P | 15:09 |
| * bigcalm gives popey a kipper to smoke | 15:09 | |
| diplo | Still every day fight for me :( | 15:09 |
| dogmatic69 | diplo: ever go on reddit? | 15:11 |
| dogmatic69 | there is a stop smoking sub reddit that is pretty good | 15:12 |
| diplo | Yeah i do, but not often.. | 15:13 |
| diplo | I've stopped, just between kids and work I fancy one | 15:13 |
| diplo | I won't smoke again, can't afford it, don't like the smell | 15:13 |
| diplo | etc etc | 15:13 |
| diplo | Just enjoyed it | 15:13 |
| bigcalm | popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076568/ | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | hmm. i spent weeks designing an algorithm to simulate the motion of a particle constrained to a curved surface and it turns out i could have done it in a couple of days if i had just known that it was the true definition of a geodesic. | 15:27 |
| * ali1234 shakes fist at wikipedia | 15:28 | |
| diplo | try setting debug on bigcalm ? | 15:29 |
| diplo | If debug in the ftp section is set to 1 the complete communication between web‐ cam and the ftp utility is printed to stderr | 15:29 |
| diplo | Mine by default is set to 3 | 15:29 |
| bigcalm | I see | 15:33 |
| * bigcalm tinkers | 15:33 | |
| bigcalm | No difference | 15:34 |
| bigcalm | Doesn't matter what value debug has | 15:34 |
| bigcalm | It's always the same output | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | gdb, strace etc | 15:35 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076597/ | 15:36 |
| diplo | Lot's of no such file / directory | 15:37 |
| diplo | I don't get those | 15:37 |
| bigcalm | Lots of the same file it can't find | 15:38 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076600/ | 15:38 |
| popey | thats my current config | 15:38 |
| bigcalm | I'll see if that works for me | 15:39 |
| diplo | Does www_dump/webcam exist ? | 15:41 |
| bigcalm | diplo: yes | 15:41 |
| diplo | I'm trying to break mine to get it segfault the same | 15:41 |
| bigcalm | Well, I would try the config, except the laptop I was sshed into has just switched itself off :) | 15:42 |
| diplo | /dev/video0 exist ? | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | iain@iain-laptop:~$ ls /dev/video* | 15:44 |
| bigcalm | /dev/video0 /dev/video1 | 15:44 |
| ali1234 | what does gdb say? | 15:44 |
| diplo | Tried them both I guess | 15:44 |
| bigcalm | diplo: yes | 15:44 |
| popey | you dont have anything else holding onto the camera like skype or google hangout? | 15:45 |
| popey | lsof | grep /dev/video | 15:45 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076615/ | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | bigcalm: now type "run" | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | then when it crashes type "bt" | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | and then pastebin the output | 15:46 |
| bigcalm | Ah, ok | 15:46 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I bought one of these, gonna try and make drivers :) http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/accessories/recon/ | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076616/ | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | A permission issue | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | Cheese works though | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | bigcalm: that's a bit odd. different error. it exited without crashing | 15:47 |
| diplo | Ooh not used gdb before, seems quite helpful | 15:48 |
| bigcalm | Humm, I was missing the config file, let me try again | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | ah, gdb won't run setuid programs | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | so if webcam is setuid root you need to run gdb as root | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | or you could change the permissons on the video device | 15:50 |
| bigcalm | I forget, how do I add my user to a group? | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | gpasswd -a <user> group | 15:51 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | then you must log out and log in again | 15:52 |
| bigcalm | That fixed it | 15:52 |
| bigcalm | Aye | 15:52 |
| bigcalm | http://discworld.cuth.eu/dump/webcam/webcam.jpg | 15:52 |
| bigcalm | I need to clean the window :( | 15:52 |
| diplo | more cloud shots :( | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | diplo: what would you prefer? | 15:53 |
| diplo | boobs ? | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | It reminds me of playing Quake | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | !ohmy | diplo | 15:53 |
| lubotu3 | diplo: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. | 15:53 |
| diplo | pfft a natural and beautiful thing | 15:53 |
| diplo | :) | 15:53 |
| diplo | Clouds are over rated | 15:54 |
| bigcalm | diplo: or did you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booby | 15:54 |
| bigcalm | ? | 15:54 |
| diplo | Also known as Boobies, I like that it's a good fallback | 15:54 |
| diplo | Did not know there was a bird kwown as that :P | 15:55 |
| gigix | boobies ? | 15:55 |
| bigcalm | Really? | 15:55 |
| diplo | yes, it redirects you to that page as well | 15:55 |
| diplo | :P | 15:55 |
| * bigcalm tuts | 15:55 | |
| diplo | A booby is a seabird in the genus Sula, part of the Sulidae family. Boobies are closely related to the gannets | 15:56 |
| bigcalm | Right, now that's getting pretty pictures, I shall do some work | 15:56 |
| diplo | Named from some spanish slang :) | 15:56 |
| diplo | And I shall go home I guess, I've done nothing in the last 2-3 hours anyhoo | 15:57 |
| diplo | http://tawkify.com/ | 15:58 |
| diplo | Matches you based on Klout score, oh dear me! | 15:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Klout score? | 15:58 |
| diplo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klout | 15:59 |
| diplo | Another stupid start up | 15:59 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diplo | right | 16:01 |
| diplo | gn all, catch you later | 16:01 |
| bigcalm | Toodles | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | Oodles of toodles/ | 16:11 |
| andylockran | howdy all | 16:13 |
| andylockran | Just got sent a job description by a recruiter.. took one look and thought 'hmm, they're using the ubuntu font' | 16:15 |
| andylockran | turns out it's a job at Canonical | 16:15 |
| andylockran | reckons I'm too 'lite' for the role, (Project Manager) - but might take a closer look. | 16:16 |
| Laney | there's quite a few jobs listed atm | 16:16 |
| andylockran | any recommendations on whose ear I need to bend? | 16:16 |
| popey | about what? | 16:18 |
| popey | the roles usually are quite verbose :) | 16:19 |
| gord | and may or may not reflect anything that you may be working on | 16:20 |
| popey | heh | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | "working" | 16:21 |
| gord | http://open.spotify.com/track/7n7YSF2Wp7MMzkwqdN7NBt Myrtti's may appreciate | 16:22 |
| Myrtti | wohoo | 16:24 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ Comic Sans day tomorrow (in .nl anyway) | 16:25 |
| Myrtti | gord: I love you | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | :O | 16:29 |
| gord | its great right? | 16:29 |
| Myrtti | it is | 16:29 |
| gord | there is a whole album up there | 16:29 |
| Myrtti | instant summer feeling | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | I should have a look | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | Currently chillin' to Bentley's Gonna Sort You Out | 16:30 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| bigcalm | Something silly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EbSoiNh_Q | 16:40 |
| dogmatic69 | What does this mean? http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1968194891 | 17:35 |
| dogmatic69 | 'updates kept back' | 17:35 |
| dogmatic69 | I added a ppa for php5.4 but forgot to apt-get update before installing :/ | 17:36 |
| * mattt sings 'merica, eff yeh!' | 17:55 | |
| mattt | worst song ever to get stuck in your head :( | 17:55 |
| ali1234 | http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/webcam.jpg | 18:08 |
| Azelphur | It's a tree | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | correct | 18:09 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 18:09 |
| MartijnVdS | +100 internets! http://mashable.com/2012/07/05/walmart-facebook-pitbull-alaska/ | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | mattt: http://unhearit.com/ | 18:55 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: lol | 19:08 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: Mashable or unhearit? :) | 19:10 |
| dogmatic69 | mashable | 19:11 |
| dogmatic69 | I want to unhear that music though | 19:11 |
| * dogmatic69 likes something a bit heavier, like slipknot | 19:11 | |
| ali1234 | lol, goons | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | is there anything they can't ruin? | 19:12 |
| * MartijnVdS waits for 0:00 | 19:12 | |
| bigcalm | Silly VirginMedia | 19:50 |
| bigcalm | Webcam has taken some splendid images. Looking forward to posting the final video later | 19:57 |
| dogmatic69 | bigcalm: what is wrong with virgin? | 19:57 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: phone tv and internet all went away for about an hour or so | 19:58 |
| dogmatic69 | bah | 19:58 |
| dogmatic69 | that is horrible | 19:58 |
| bigcalm | Bah indeed | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | I've had worse :) | 19:59 |
| dogmatic69 | "oh, the internet is dead. Ill watch some.... DOH" | 19:59 |
| dogmatic69 | worse? | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | Internet went away for a week earlier this year | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | Phone and tv don't bother me | 19:59 |
| dogmatic69 | worst. nightmare. ever. | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 19:59 |
| dogmatic69 | I got bt phone and internet, phone is in a draw somewhere | 20:00 |
| dogmatic69 | less annoying when its not plugged in | 20:00 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 20:00 |
| === webpigeo1 is now known as webpigeon | ||
| === diddledan is now known as zz_diddledan | ||
| * BigRedS is going to ask a Windows question | 20:30 | |
| MartijnVdS | uh oh ;) | 20:30 |
| BigRedS | I think I have no DHCP client in this Windows install. Is there a way of getting it that's not so much hassle as to not be worth it simply to play games on the train? | 20:30 |
| MartijnVdS | Windows comes with DHCP | 20:30 |
| BigRedS | No, windows should come with DHCP :) | 20:30 |
| MartijnVdS | If you have a TCP/IP stack, it has DHCP | 20:30 |
| BigRedS | Yeah, but I never get a DHCP lease | 20:31 |
| BigRedS | if I configure an IP address I have networking, though | 20:31 |
| BigRedS | so it appears that all that doesn't work is teh getting of a dhcp lease | 20:31 |
| BigRedS | which is confusing me somewhat | 20:31 |
| MartijnVdS | firewalling? | 20:32 |
| AlanBell | evening all | 20:32 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: perhaps, I'll have a look | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: either Windows Firewall or some crappy 3rd-party thing (part of lots of virus scanners) can block ports | 20:32 |
| BigRedS | pointedly, it's never worked | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: Does the "Fix this for me" button work? | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: "Repair"? | 20:33 |
| BigRedS | I clicked through the installer and then installed Debian when I got it, adn the other week I tried to use it and it wouldn't connect | 20:33 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: the "diagnose this" button grumbles that the diagnostics service isn't running... | 20:34 |
| MartijnVdS | Sounds like a messed-up install | 20:34 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: is there a repair thingy on a windows 7 cd? | 20:34 |
| MartijnVdS | start the service :) | 20:34 |
| MartijnVdS | I have no idea | 20:34 |
| BigRedS | I get 'Access is denied' when I try that | 20:35 |
| BigRedS | yeah, nor I. Think I'll take a book :) | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | are you administrator? | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | it sounds all sorts of broken | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | but I'm not sure how much of it is by design | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | What's the history of the Win install? | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | DHCP and "Repair" should work on a default install | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | In february last year I installed it so it'd let me boot off a CD to install Debian | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | about six weeks ago I booted into Windows for the first time since and teh networking didn't work so I turned it off | 20:36 |
| BigRedS | today I thought I'd try fixing it | 20:37 |
| BigRedS | so it's got no excuse for being so wonky | 20:37 |
| BigRedS | but I've no install media, and apparently the thingy on it for making a recovery cd actually makes three dvds | 20:37 |
| MartijnVdS | it does | 20:37 |
| MartijnVdS | it's a full re-imaging set | 20:38 |
| BigRedS | 12G of install media? | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | it's crazy | 20:38 |
| BigRedS | blimey | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | I have a machine here that makes _4_ DVDs | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | and most of it is crapware I uninstalled immediately! | 20:38 |
| BigRedS | what the hell does it do with all that space? | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | crapware ;) | 20:38 |
| BigRedS | it can't install into much more.. | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | trial versions of expensive antivirus (use MS Essentials for free, same result) | 20:38 |
| BigRedS | ah yeah, I've just got a lot of things beginning with "Think" | 20:39 |
| MartijnVdS | Lots of programs to tweak fan speed (wut.. do that for me.. you're the computer) | 20:39 |
| BigRedS | haha, finally, someone who agrees with me on that! | 20:39 |
| BigRedS | I've never understood paying to get a thingy for a PC to get a knob with which to adjust the fan speed | 20:39 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: A coworker explained to me why he does it on his laptop -- he doesn't want the laptop to burn his legs off while watching a film | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | I think the threshold temperature for turning on the fan is too high :) | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | (but more fan = more battery, and 4 hours looks nicer on the spec sheet) | 20:40 |
| BigRedS | haha, I suppose | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | aquarius: do your fags show up in lsusb? | 20:42 |
| BigRedS | haha | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: Not when he smokes them in parallel 8-) | 20:43 |
| aquarius | they do not :) | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | thanks aquarius :) | 20:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Wouldn't firewire be more appropriate? | 20:46 |
| bigcalm | There, I did one toohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy6Py5byy7M | 20:53 |
| bigcalm | Add space | 20:53 |
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| === MattJ is now known as Guest89758 | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan | ||
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