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rick_h_jrwren: https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues/163#issuecomment-676980300:32
jrwrenwhoa, wtf???01:00
jrwrenhow the heck is tornado failing on a url? that is messed01:00
brouschheh, nice example01:04
rick_h_jrwren: yea, so will see what happens, but I posted a sample that shows it failing.01:07
derekvhttps://www.google.com/search?q=vim+cheat+sheet+mugs03:39
derekvhttps://www.google.com/search?q=vim+cheat+sheet+mugs03:40
derekvdude popped up on #ipv6 knew exactly what I needed to do03:41
derekvI just needed to set the default route, which I figured, but I had no idea how to find out what to set it to03:41
derekvsome sort of a flaw where you can't be a gateway and also listen to the part of the broadcast that says what your default route should be03:42
derekvand linux has a workaround built in03:42
Blazeixjust flashed jellybean (android 4.1) to my nexus.04:43
Blazeixthere are some pretty slick ui changes. i'm loving the notification center04:44
Blazeixand app loading / unloading is much more iOSy04:44
rick_h_Blazeix: oooh, shiny. Will have to check that out11:41
rick_h_and morning...ugh long night11:49
shakes808morning11:53
rick_h_morning shakes80811:53
shakes808How was everyone's 4th?11:53
rick_h_meh, I worked and swapped the day with Friday, so check back with me tomorrow :)11:53
shakes808lol11:54
shakes808;) will do11:54
shakes808How is the life of LP?11:54
rick_h_heh, party on11:54
rick_h_oh man...time to go out back and cry http://i.imgur.com/Wx91Z.jpg11:57
shakes808lol11:57
shakes808Did you take that?11:57
shakes808I will have to check that out. I am going to BN this Saturday ... lol11:58
rick_h_no, passed around twitter which means it was probably staged11:59
rick_h_but I've been into a bookstore enough to know how close to the truth that is11:59
shakes808gotcha. But still is sad11:59
brouschHow inefficient does an ORM like SQLAlchemy or Django ORM get when I have a big query with a lot of joins?12:58
rick_h_brousch: so it depends on how well your models are defined13:02
rick_h_the inefficient stuff is 90% dealing with gettings rows back and turning them into objects13:02
rick_h_so it depends on the size of the objects, lazy loading, etc13:02
snap-exileGOod morning13:03
snap-exileNo power at home since CHC13:03
rick_h_ugh13:03
snap-exileand no sleep either.13:03
rick_h_rough night I take it13:03
rick_h_yea, fireworks here quieted down around 2am and finally got to sleep after that13:03
rick_h_but no power sucks13:03
snap-exileYeah, between, the fireworks, the heat, and the storms that set JoDee's spastic weather radio off, I'm a right mess.13:03
rick_h_sick day!13:04
snap-exileNah, I have things due next week13:04
snap-exileand no power at home, so what's the point? :)13:04
snap-exileBut I do have some CDs that should take the edge off13:04
snap-exileThis has not been a good tech week13:05
brouschMy database is pretty normalized13:05
snap-exileWell at least one of you is. ;)13:06
brouschpretty or normal?13:06
snap-exilenormal13:06
brousch:P13:07
snap-exilejrwren: If that Vanity Fair article you posted on Twitter isn't 100%, at least it makes for good fiction15:05
jrwrenindeed.15:06
jrwrenits not as bad as I thought it would be.15:06
snap-exileVanity Fair does have some good articles15:09
snap-exileI think JoDee picked up a few issues here and there15:09
snap-exileunfortunately they're sandwiched between Cosmo-esque advertising.15:09
jrwreni'm not a fan of vanity fair in general.15:23
jrwrenreally don't like their photo styling.15:23
jrwren"zomg, look we made ugly hollywood people beautiful"15:23
jrwrenits a magazine with no character.15:23
rick_h_ugh grep -P "\([\"']\w+\[[^'\"]*\]" lib/lp/**/*.(pt|js)15:24
rick_h_yay http://refiddle.com/ though15:25
jrwrenwhy -P on that?15:27
jrwrenjust for \w support?15:27
jrwrenman, someone needs to extend ERE and add \w \d \s \b and friends and call it EERE15:27
rick_h_because I always fail on grep and regex so just default to -P15:27
snap-exilehttps://twitter.com/#!/DTE_Energy15:28
snap-exileBah15:28
rick_h_you don't say? :)15:28
jrwrenpcre is multiple orders of magnatude slower in the worst case compared to posix or ERE15:29
rick_h_thankfully this is a one time hit so good enough15:30
rick_h_more the ugh that I'm searching the codebase for missing quotes to go through and fix each occurance15:30
rick_h_ouch, that map is crazy snap-exile15:42
snap-exileYeah, it's nuts15:42
snap-exileworse, we're getting a brown-out like we did earlier this week15:42
snap-exileso it's not a complete outage, just outage-enough.15:43
rick_h_looks like we just missed an outage south of us15:43
rick_h_that'd have been interesting15:43
snap-exileYeah, no kidding15:43
Blazeixmy workplace has no power, so everyone is working from home.15:46
Blazeixi assume. we don't have operational email or IM...15:46
rick_h_yea, I could probably get 8hrs done between laptop battery, mifi, usb battery, etc.15:46
rick_h_but the hosue would be a mess, fix tank would get too hot and potentially start killing off, etc15:46
snap-exileNot to mention Jordan15:48
snap-exilehow would she keep cool?15:48
rick_h_Jordyn but yea, keep feeding her ice cubes15:48
rick_h_poor black dogs in the heat are no good15:48
rick_h_actually just lock her in the basement and should be ok15:48
snap-exileGreat, more storms a-comin'15:49
rick_h_yea, Sat is supposed to be nasty. This weekend 'get a way' is turning out to be a 'why bother'15:49
snap-exilefuckin' hwll15:49
rick_h_Friday, 10215:49
rick_h_Sat: thunderstorms15:49
rick_h_Sun: drive home15:49
rick_h_and we're tent-ing it on this trip since hte in-laws have the trailer15:49
rick_h_with a 2yr old :/ can you tell I don't really want to go at this point15:49
snap-exileLovely.15:49
snap-exileTell Erica to bring some work home with her so you can't go15:50
snap-exile"Sorry, we have pink-eye"15:50
rick_h_thankfully up there it's a little bit cooler http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/Lincoln+MI+USMI0490:1:US15:50
rick_h_but still, 89 in a tent isn't going to be pleasant, nor is "Potential for severe thunderstorms" on Sat15:51
rick_h_now sunday I can get on board with!15:51
rick_h_jcastro: I keep watching that video, you're killing my productivity! :)15:52
jcastroit's awesome15:53
jrwrenvideo?15:53
snap-exileWhat's funny are all of the pissed off people (fireworks video)15:53
rick_h_https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/DpVMjaJertC15:53
jrwrenhaha, that is funny15:53
rick_h_snap-exile: yea, well if I dragged the kid out past bedtime to go see the big fireworks show...I'd be a bit pissed too15:53
jcastroit would suck if you planned for the whole show, but really, how often does that happen15:54
jcastroit's enough to make it worthwhile15:54
rick_h_yea, "see you all next year folks where the person that did this will be sacked!"15:54
snap-exile“LinkedIn makes $1.30 for every hour someone uses the site. Facebook makes only 6.2 cents” bit.ly/NaJhn3 <- I don't think there's a soul that has ever used Linkedin for over 10 minutes16:23
PainBankthere are... damn recruiters!16:30
rick_h_riight, and let's just do the math on .062 * infinite and 1.30 * 1016:31
brouschI added a couple of screen recordings to my most famous blog post ever. http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/05/09/ubuntu-12-04-splash-screen-lockup-with-livecd/16:32
rick_h_bwuhahahahaha http://goo.gl/E8lyN16:35
rick_h_I'm a bitter hater I know16:35
Blazeix"Barring anymore storm damage, we expect to have most customers back by late Saturday."16:37
rick_h_wow16:37
rick_h_that storm must have been a bit worse than I thought16:37
snap-exile(*sigh*)16:38
rick_h_snap-exile: well, we're heading out tomorrow if you want to crash16:38
snap-exileNah, that's OK16:38
snap-exileThank you for the offer.16:39
snap-exileWhat I love is they say "Look at our app for updates"16:39
snap-exilebut their site hasn't been updated since 7am16:39
rick_h_they said app, not website :P16:40
Blazeixsnap-exile: http://www.dteenergy.com/residentialCustomers/problemsSafety/outageCenter/index.html16:40
Blazeixupdated 11:30am16:40
snap-exileBlazeix: But the map hasn't been updated.16:40
snap-exileBlazeix: The app is essentially the map in an Android wrapper16:52
snap-exilethey really went the extra mile to make it unusable, too.16:52
snap-exilethough it does have a little more information16:52
snap-exilethe times on the site say 18:00, but the app says 6:23pm was when the power went out.16:52
snap-exileand the last update was 6:25am instead of 6:50am16:53
snap-exilebunch of rubbish16:53
snap-exilehttps://github.com/richardfontana/GPL.next17:01
snap-exileI present a fork of GPLv317:02
jrwrenyou can fork gpl, its (C)17:05
rick_h_love that, all the verbage and not one case/reason for it to exist. Just a bunch of crap to say "We're allowed to do this"17:06
snap-exileWelcome to the internet, where something can exist just to say it can.17:11
rick_h_more rain yay. Gotta love it, go from desert to swamp in two days17:15
jrwrenplants are gonna love it.17:16
jrwrenmy CSA is gonna rock17:16
jrwrenanyone want to triage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/102139817:25
snap-exileApparently power is back on at home17:33
rick_h_awesome17:33
snap-exileYeah, hoping it stays that way.17:33
snap-lFreedooom!17:47
rick_h_hah17:47
widoxrick_h_: how was the pie last night?18:04
rick_h_I thought it was pretty good, very 4th of july :P18:04
rick_h_widox: and brought out the MS mice...but forgot you weren't going to be there18:04
widox:)18:05
widoxinstead of hacking, I was standing at the Tigers game during the huge storm and a 2hr delay... with my in-laws! :(18:06
rick_h_doh18:06
widoxit was painful in so many ways18:06
snap-lYeah, that hail was pretty brutal18:07
* snap-l hopes widox meant the hail.18:07
widoxyeah, yeah, the hail! ;)18:09
rick_h_ugh, going to have to go to best buy...18:14
rick_h_I hate that place18:15
snap-lWhat's over there that you need?18:15
snap-lYou could go to Microcenter. ;)18:15
rick_h_power inverter, forgot to order one from AMZ18:15
rick_h_true, but that's farther away18:15
snap-lrick_h_: Well, you could start by queueing in front of your house now for the checkout.18:16
* snap-l hates Microcenter for the long wait to check out18:17
rick_h_and get ready to sign for my new warranty18:17
snap-l?18:17
snap-lMore like "What's your address? Is this your current address? "18:17
snap-lAt least they shave off two questions from Radio Shack's song and dance routine18:18
snap-l"I'd like to ask you about your cellphone provider"18:18
rick_h_heh, "you don't need my address...or phone number...yes I know I can just hold onto my receipt."18:18
snap-land "Would you like to see some batteries"18:18
snap-lOne time (long ago) I told the guy that I was happy with my satellite phone18:19
snap-lfucker started asking me about it18:19
snap-lTook me 5 minutes to check out for a dual-point dual-throw switch18:19
snap-lI was livid18:20
snap-lIf you ever want to see my sarcastic side, upsell to me and continue to do so even when I've made it abundantly clear I'm not interested.18:21
jcastrosnap-l: that def leppard thing is unbelievable20:27
jcastrohttp://www.noisecreep.com/2012/06/04/def-leppard-pour-some-sugar-on-me-2012/ has the new version20:27
PainBanksnap-l: seen this yet?  http://thecommandline.net/2012/06/25/podcast_production/20:40
snap-ljcastro: Ah, thanks. I was wondering if they had samples of it20:42
snap-lActually, it's pretty damn faithful to the originals20:42
snap-lThey sound a little down-tuned.20:42
snap-lkind of like what happened with Dio's later recordings20:43
snap-lHuge props to them, though. These sound great.20:43
snap-lPainBank: No, I hadn't. INteresting that he's using Audacity.20:44
snap-lPainBank: Did you see that I have my scripts up on github?20:45
PainBankseems he is using Ardour as well20:47
PainBank I think I did.  Been a bit since I looked though.20:47
PainBankhis scripts are out there as well.20:47
snap-lhttps://github.com/craigmaloney/create_json20:48
snap-lhttps://github.com/craigmaloney/shownotes20:48
snap-lACtually, I also have a makefile that I use that I should upload20:48
snap-lI've been using it to create Club Metal shows from top to bottom20:49
PainBanknice20:49
PainBankI am liking what I see in Ardour... http://en.flossmanuals.net/ardour/ch025_routing-between-jack-applications/20:49
snap-lArdour is definitely the more professional of the tools20:49
snap-lArdour is what you use when you want to multi-track outside sources20:50
snap-lI used it for recording from my Roland D111020:50
snap-lBah, D11020:50
snap-lIt was awesome for getting things synced up20:50
snap-lReally opened my eyes to the headaches of pro recording20:50
PainBankvery nice set of scripts.20:51
PainBanksnap-l: I heard ya there, but it is very cool too.20:51
PainBankpro-recording can be a pain in the ass... especially since a lot of it is 'I want the most awesome quality of audio ever!'20:52
PainBankmakes you feel like if you aren't the best, then you have failed and there for can suck ass if you think you are going to get any more work...20:52
PainBankLOTS of pressure there.20:52
snap-lWell, and getting everything to flow together, realizing what you thought was on tape wasn't.20:56
snap-letc.20:56
snap-ljcastro: I bought those two songs on Amazon.20:57
PainBankbut if you are a Mac user, would you replace Garageband with Ardour?  Just curious as I have never used either product.20:57
snap-lI hope they put together a full album, because I think this is awesome.20:57
snap-lPainBank: YOu'd use Protools or something similar20:58
snap-lGarage Band is more akin to LMMS20:58
brouschI <3 garageband. Even I can make some music with it20:58
snap-lonly Apple could make a keyboard with a USB hub that can't accept a flash drive because it's underpowered22:20
brouschheh, wtf is it for then?22:28
rick_h_snap-l: hey, what did the wife say about the kindle?22:38
brouschIs this a joke or a real question?22:43
rick_h_brousch: real question from CHC, sorry, guess I should PM that22:44
brouschI was waiting for a punchline :(22:48
rick_h_snap-l: does your wife think she wants the kindle? I meant to leave it with you at CHC but you left early and I didn't think of it.22:48
rick_h_that's about the summary of it22:48
brouschQ:"What'd the wife say about the Kindle"? A: "It don't work for shit to start a fire!"22:51
gamerchick02hey. anyone in here getting hit with the sandy/ivy bridge kernel bug?23:43
rick_h_gamerchick02: which is this?23:46
gamerchick02https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/99318723:47
rick_h_because I have had some system lockups on my new ivy bridge machine, but not figured out if it's a bug/what23:47
gamerchick02i've got random complete freeze which is only fixed by hitting the reset button on the front of the case.23:47
rick_h_gamerchick02: yep, this looks just like what I've had23:48
gamerchick02sometimes it's from chrome, sometimes gwibber updating, etc23:48
rick_h_yea, I've been suspecting chrome myself23:48
rick_h_chrome or something network related23:48
gamerchick02it's labeled "won't fix" b/c it's like 3 bugs all together23:48
gamerchick02but it's not chrome.23:48
gamerchick02it's the kernel23:48
rick_h_right, wow long23:49
rick_h_but good to know others are seeing it23:49
gamerchick02yes23:49
gamerchick02if i disappear it's because my system froze23:49
rick_h_hmm, I'll have to dig more and send an email when I get back23:49
gamerchick02i'm running 3.20-26-generic kernel23:50
gamerchick02i was going to try one of the others proposed in that massive bug thread23:50
rick_h_yea, that's the default latest I'm running as well23:50
gamerchick02but now i'm not so sure. it will muck up my updating, i do suppose23:50
gamerchick02i'm going to set up IRC on my AIR so i'm connected still. how long are you going to be in the room, rick_h_?23:52

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