[00:32] <rick_h_> jrwren: https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues/163#issuecomment-6769803
[01:00] <jrwren> whoa, wtf???
[01:00] <jrwren> how the heck is tornado failing on a url? that is messed
[01:04] <brousch> heh, nice example
[01:07] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, so will see what happens, but I posted a sample that shows it failing.
[03:39] <derekv> https://www.google.com/search?q=vim+cheat+sheet+mugs
[03:40] <derekv> https://www.google.com/search?q=vim+cheat+sheet+mugs
[03:41] <derekv> dude popped up on #ipv6 knew exactly what I needed to do
[03:41] <derekv> I just needed to set the default route, which I figured, but I had no idea how to find out what to set it to
[03:42] <derekv> some sort of a flaw where you can't be a gateway and also listen to the part of the broadcast that says what your default route should be
[03:42] <derekv> and linux has a workaround built in
[04:43] <Blazeix> just flashed jellybean (android 4.1) to my nexus.
[04:44] <Blazeix> there are some pretty slick ui changes. i'm loving the notification center
[04:44] <Blazeix> and app loading / unloading is much more iOSy
[11:41] <rick_h_> Blazeix: oooh, shiny. Will have to check that out
[11:49] <rick_h_> and morning...ugh long night
[11:53] <shakes808> morning
[11:53] <rick_h_> morning shakes808
[11:53] <shakes808> How was everyone's 4th?
[11:53] <rick_h_> meh, I worked and swapped the day with Friday, so check back with me tomorrow :)
[11:54] <shakes808> lol
[11:54] <shakes808> ;) will do
[11:54] <shakes808> How is the life of LP?
[11:54] <rick_h_> heh, party on
[11:57] <rick_h_> oh man...time to go out back and cry http://i.imgur.com/Wx91Z.jpg
[11:57] <shakes808> lol
[11:57] <shakes808> Did you take that?
[11:58] <shakes808> I will have to check that out. I am going to BN this Saturday ... lol
[11:59] <rick_h_> no, passed around twitter which means it was probably staged
[11:59] <rick_h_> but I've been into a bookstore enough to know how close to the truth that is
[11:59] <shakes808> gotcha. But still is sad
[12:58] <brousch> How inefficient does an ORM like SQLAlchemy or Django ORM get when I have a big query with a lot of joins?
[13:02] <rick_h_> brousch: so it depends on how well your models are defined
[13:02] <rick_h_> the inefficient stuff is 90% dealing with gettings rows back and turning them into objects
[13:02] <rick_h_> so it depends on the size of the objects, lazy loading, etc
[13:03] <snap-exile> GOod morning
[13:03] <snap-exile> No power at home since CHC
[13:03] <rick_h_> ugh
[13:03] <snap-exile> and no sleep either.
[13:03] <rick_h_> rough night I take it
[13:03] <rick_h_> yea, fireworks here quieted down around 2am and finally got to sleep after that
[13:03] <rick_h_> but no power sucks
[13:03] <snap-exile> Yeah, between, the fireworks, the heat, and the storms that set JoDee's spastic weather radio off, I'm a right mess.
[13:04] <rick_h_> sick day!
[13:04] <snap-exile> Nah, I have things due next week
[13:04] <snap-exile> and no power at home, so what's the point? :)
[13:04] <snap-exile> But I do have some CDs that should take the edge off
[13:05] <snap-exile> This has not been a good tech week
[13:05] <brousch> My database is pretty normalized
[13:06] <snap-exile> Well at least one of you is. ;)
[13:06] <brousch> pretty or normal?
[13:06] <snap-exile> normal
[13:07] <brousch> :P
[15:05] <snap-exile> jrwren: If that Vanity Fair article you posted on Twitter isn't 100%, at least it makes for good fiction
[15:06] <jrwren> indeed.
[15:06] <jrwren> its not as bad as I thought it would be.
[15:09] <snap-exile> Vanity Fair does have some good articles
[15:09] <snap-exile> I think JoDee picked up a few issues here and there
[15:09] <snap-exile> unfortunately they're sandwiched between Cosmo-esque advertising.
[15:23] <jrwren> i'm not a fan of vanity fair in general.
[15:23] <jrwren> really don't like their photo styling.
[15:23] <jrwren> "zomg, look we made ugly hollywood people beautiful"
[15:23] <jrwren> its a magazine with no character.
[15:24] <rick_h_> ugh grep -P "\([\"']\w+\[[^'\"]*\]" lib/lp/**/*.(pt|js)
[15:25] <rick_h_> yay http://refiddle.com/ though
[15:27] <jrwren> why -P on that?
[15:27] <jrwren> just for \w support?
[15:27] <jrwren> man, someone needs to extend ERE and add \w \d \s \b and friends and call it EERE
[15:27] <rick_h_> because I always fail on grep and regex so just default to -P
[15:28] <snap-exile> https://twitter.com/#!/DTE_Energy
[15:28] <snap-exile> Bah
[15:28] <rick_h_> you don't say? :)
[15:29] <jrwren> pcre is multiple orders of magnatude slower in the worst case compared to posix or ERE
[15:30] <rick_h_> thankfully this is a one time hit so good enough
[15:30] <rick_h_> more the ugh that I'm searching the codebase for missing quotes to go through and fix each occurance
[15:42] <rick_h_> ouch, that map is crazy snap-exile
[15:42] <snap-exile> Yeah, it's nuts
[15:42] <snap-exile> worse, we're getting a brown-out like we did earlier this week
[15:43] <snap-exile> so it's not a complete outage, just outage-enough.
[15:43] <rick_h_> looks like we just missed an outage south of us
[15:43] <rick_h_> that'd have been interesting
[15:43] <snap-exile> Yeah, no kidding
[15:46] <Blazeix> my workplace has no power, so everyone is working from home.
[15:46] <Blazeix> i assume. we don't have operational email or IM...
[15:46] <rick_h_> yea, I could probably get 8hrs done between laptop battery, mifi, usb battery, etc.
[15:46] <rick_h_> but the hosue would be a mess, fix tank would get too hot and potentially start killing off, etc
[15:48] <snap-exile> Not to mention Jordan
[15:48] <snap-exile> how would she keep cool?
[15:48] <rick_h_> Jordyn but yea, keep feeding her ice cubes
[15:48] <rick_h_> poor black dogs in the heat are no good
[15:48] <rick_h_> actually just lock her in the basement and should be ok
[15:49] <snap-exile> Great, more storms a-comin'
[15:49] <rick_h_> yea, Sat is supposed to be nasty. This weekend 'get a way' is turning out to be a 'why bother'
[15:49] <snap-exile> fuckin' hwll
[15:49] <rick_h_> Friday, 102
[15:49] <rick_h_> Sat: thunderstorms
[15:49] <rick_h_> Sun: drive home
[15:49] <rick_h_> and we're tent-ing it on this trip since hte in-laws have the trailer
[15:49] <rick_h_> with a 2yr old :/ can you tell I don't really want to go at this point
[15:49] <snap-exile> Lovely.
[15:50] <snap-exile> Tell Erica to bring some work home with her so you can't go
[15:50] <snap-exile> "Sorry, we have pink-eye"
[15:50] <rick_h_> thankfully up there it's a little bit cooler http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/Lincoln+MI+USMI0490:1:US
[15:51] <rick_h_> but still, 89 in a tent isn't going to be pleasant, nor is "Potential for severe thunderstorms" on Sat
[15:51] <rick_h_> now sunday I can get on board with!
[15:52] <rick_h_> jcastro: I keep watching that video, you're killing my productivity! :)
[15:53] <jcastro> it's awesome
[15:53] <jrwren> video?
[15:53] <snap-exile> What's funny are all of the pissed off people (fireworks video)
[15:53] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/DpVMjaJertC
[15:53] <jrwren> haha, that is funny
[15:53] <rick_h_> snap-exile: yea, well if I dragged the kid out past bedtime to go see the big fireworks show...I'd be a bit pissed too
[15:54] <jcastro> it would suck if you planned for the whole show, but really, how often does that happen
[15:54] <jcastro> it's enough to make it worthwhile
[15:54] <rick_h_> yea, "see you all next year folks where the person that did this will be sacked!"
[16:23] <snap-exile> “LinkedIn makes $1.30 for every hour someone uses the site. Facebook makes only 6.2 cents” bit.ly/NaJhn3 <- I don't think there's a soul that has ever used Linkedin for over 10 minutes
[16:30] <PainBank> there are... damn recruiters!
[16:31] <rick_h_> riight, and let's just do the math on .062 * infinite and 1.30 * 10
[16:32] <brousch> I added a couple of screen recordings to my most famous blog post ever. http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/05/09/ubuntu-12-04-splash-screen-lockup-with-livecd/
[16:35] <rick_h_> bwuhahahahaha http://goo.gl/E8lyN
[16:35] <rick_h_> I'm a bitter hater I know
[16:37] <Blazeix> "Barring anymore storm damage, we expect to have most customers back by late Saturday."
[16:37] <rick_h_> wow
[16:37] <rick_h_> that storm must have been a bit worse than I thought
[16:38] <snap-exile> (*sigh*)
[16:38] <rick_h_> snap-exile: well, we're heading out tomorrow if you want to crash
[16:38] <snap-exile> Nah, that's OK
[16:39] <snap-exile> Thank you for the offer.
[16:39] <snap-exile> What I love is they say "Look at our app for updates"
[16:39] <snap-exile> but their site hasn't been updated since 7am
[16:40] <rick_h_> they said app, not website :P
[16:40] <Blazeix> snap-exile: http://www.dteenergy.com/residentialCustomers/problemsSafety/outageCenter/index.html
[16:40] <Blazeix> updated 11:30am
[16:40] <snap-exile> Blazeix: But the map hasn't been updated.
[16:52] <snap-exile> Blazeix: The app is essentially the map in an Android wrapper
[16:52] <snap-exile> they really went the extra mile to make it unusable, too.
[16:52] <snap-exile> though it does have a little more information
[16:52] <snap-exile> the times on the site say 18:00, but the app says 6:23pm was when the power went out.
[16:53] <snap-exile> and the last update was 6:25am instead of 6:50am
[16:53] <snap-exile> bunch of rubbish
[17:01] <snap-exile> https://github.com/richardfontana/GPL.next
[17:02] <snap-exile> I present a fork of GPLv3
[17:05] <jrwren> you can fork gpl, its (C)
[17:06] <rick_h_> love that, all the verbage and not one case/reason for it to exist. Just a bunch of crap to say "We're allowed to do this"
[17:11] <snap-exile> Welcome to the internet, where something can exist just to say it can.
[17:15] <rick_h_> more rain yay. Gotta love it, go from desert to swamp in two days
[17:16] <jrwren> plants are gonna love it.
[17:16] <jrwren> my CSA is gonna rock
[17:25] <jrwren> anyone want to triage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1021398
[17:33] <snap-exile> Apparently power is back on at home
[17:33] <rick_h_> awesome
[17:33] <snap-exile> Yeah, hoping it stays that way.
[17:47] <snap-l> Freedooom!
[17:47] <rick_h_> hah
[18:04] <widox> rick_h_: how was the pie last night?
[18:04] <rick_h_> I thought it was pretty good, very 4th of july :P
[18:04] <rick_h_> widox: and brought out the MS mice...but forgot you weren't going to be there
[18:05] <widox> :)
[18:06] <widox> instead of hacking, I was standing at the Tigers game during the huge storm and a 2hr delay... with my in-laws! :(
[18:06] <rick_h_> doh
[18:06] <widox> it was painful in so many ways
[18:07] <snap-l> Yeah, that hail was pretty brutal
[18:07]  * snap-l hopes widox meant the hail.
[18:09] <widox> yeah, yeah, the hail! ;)
[18:14] <rick_h_> ugh, going to have to go to best buy...
[18:15] <rick_h_> I hate that place
[18:15] <snap-l> What's over there that you need?
[18:15] <snap-l> You could go to Microcenter. ;)
[18:15] <rick_h_> power inverter, forgot to order one from AMZ
[18:15] <rick_h_> true, but that's farther away
[18:16] <snap-l> rick_h_: Well, you could start by queueing in front of your house now for the checkout.
[18:17]  * snap-l hates Microcenter for the long wait to check out
[18:17] <rick_h_> and get ready to sign for my new warranty
[18:17] <snap-l> ?
[18:17] <snap-l> More like "What's your address? Is this your current address? "
[18:18] <snap-l> At least they shave off two questions from Radio Shack's song and dance routine
[18:18] <snap-l> "I'd like to ask you about your cellphone provider"
[18:18] <rick_h_> heh, "you don't need my address...or phone number...yes I know I can just hold onto my receipt."
[18:18] <snap-l> and "Would you like to see some batteries"
[18:19] <snap-l> One time (long ago) I told the guy that I was happy with my satellite phone
[18:19] <snap-l> fucker started asking me about it
[18:19] <snap-l> Took me 5 minutes to check out for a dual-point dual-throw switch
[18:20] <snap-l> I was livid
[18:21] <snap-l> If you ever want to see my sarcastic side, upsell to me and continue to do so even when I've made it abundantly clear I'm not interested.
[20:27] <jcastro> snap-l: that def leppard thing is unbelievable
[20:27] <jcastro> http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/06/04/def-leppard-pour-some-sugar-on-me-2012/ has the new version
[20:40] <PainBank> snap-l: seen this yet?  http://thecommandline.net/2012/06/25/podcast_production/
[20:42] <snap-l> jcastro: Ah, thanks. I was wondering if they had samples of it
[20:42] <snap-l> Actually, it's pretty damn faithful to the originals
[20:42] <snap-l> They sound a little down-tuned.
[20:43] <snap-l> kind of like what happened with Dio's later recordings
[20:43] <snap-l> Huge props to them, though. These sound great.
[20:44] <snap-l> PainBank: No, I hadn't. INteresting that he's using Audacity.
[20:45] <snap-l> PainBank: Did you see that I have my scripts up on github?
[20:47] <PainBank> seems he is using Ardour as well
[20:47] <PainBank>  I think I did.  Been a bit since I looked though.
[20:47] <PainBank> his scripts are out there as well.
[20:48] <snap-l> https://github.com/craigmaloney/create_json
[20:48] <snap-l> https://github.com/craigmaloney/shownotes
[20:48] <snap-l> ACtually, I also have a makefile that I use that I should upload
[20:49] <snap-l> I've been using it to create Club Metal shows from top to bottom
[20:49] <PainBank> nice
[20:49] <PainBank> I am liking what I see in Ardour... http://en.flossmanuals.net/ardour/ch025_routing-between-jack-applications/
[20:49] <snap-l> Ardour is definitely the more professional of the tools
[20:50] <snap-l> Ardour is what you use when you want to multi-track outside sources
[20:50] <snap-l> I used it for recording from my Roland D1110
[20:50] <snap-l> Bah, D110
[20:50] <snap-l> It was awesome for getting things synced up
[20:50] <snap-l> Really opened my eyes to the headaches of pro recording
[20:51] <PainBank> very nice set of scripts.
[20:51] <PainBank> snap-l: I heard ya there, but it is very cool too.
[20:52] <PainBank> pro-recording can be a pain in the ass... especially since a lot of it is 'I want the most awesome quality of audio ever!'
[20:52] <PainBank> makes you feel like if you aren't the best, then you have failed and there for can suck ass if you think you are going to get any more work...
[20:52] <PainBank> LOTS of pressure there.
[20:56] <snap-l> Well, and getting everything to flow together, realizing what you thought was on tape wasn't.
[20:56] <snap-l> etc.
[20:57] <snap-l> jcastro: I bought those two songs on Amazon.
[20:57] <PainBank> but if you are a Mac user, would you replace Garageband with Ardour?  Just curious as I have never used either product.
[20:57] <snap-l> I hope they put together a full album, because I think this is awesome.
[20:58] <snap-l> PainBank: YOu'd use Protools or something similar
[20:58] <snap-l> Garage Band is more akin to LMMS
[20:58] <brousch> I <3 garageband. Even I can make some music with it
[22:20] <snap-l> only Apple could make a keyboard with a USB hub that can't accept a flash drive because it's underpowered
[22:28] <brousch> heh, wtf is it for then?
[22:38] <rick_h_> snap-l: hey, what did the wife say about the kindle?
[22:43] <brousch> Is this a joke or a real question?
[22:44] <rick_h_> brousch: real question from CHC, sorry, guess I should PM that
[22:48] <brousch> I was waiting for a punchline :(
[22:48] <rick_h_> snap-l: does your wife think she wants the kindle? I meant to leave it with you at CHC but you left early and I didn't think of it.
[22:48] <rick_h_> that's about the summary of it
[22:51] <brousch> Q:"What'd the wife say about the Kindle"? A: "It don't work for shit to start a fire!"
[23:43] <gamerchick02> hey. anyone in here getting hit with the sandy/ivy bridge kernel bug?
[23:46] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: which is this?
[23:47] <gamerchick02> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[23:47] <rick_h_> because I have had some system lockups on my new ivy bridge machine, but not figured out if it's a bug/what
[23:47] <gamerchick02> i've got random complete freeze which is only fixed by hitting the reset button on the front of the case.
[23:48] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: yep, this looks just like what I've had
[23:48] <gamerchick02> sometimes it's from chrome, sometimes gwibber updating, etc
[23:48] <rick_h_> yea, I've been suspecting chrome myself
[23:48] <rick_h_> chrome or something network related
[23:48] <gamerchick02> it's labeled "won't fix" b/c it's like 3 bugs all together
[23:48] <gamerchick02> but it's not chrome.
[23:48] <gamerchick02> it's the kernel
[23:49] <rick_h_> right, wow long
[23:49] <rick_h_> but good to know others are seeing it
[23:49] <gamerchick02> yes
[23:49] <gamerchick02> if i disappear it's because my system froze
[23:49] <rick_h_> hmm, I'll have to dig more and send an email when I get back
[23:50] <gamerchick02> i'm running 3.20-26-generic kernel
[23:50] <gamerchick02> i was going to try one of the others proposed in that massive bug thread
[23:50] <rick_h_> yea, that's the default latest I'm running as well
[23:50] <gamerchick02> but now i'm not so sure. it will muck up my updating, i do suppose
[23:52] <gamerchick02> i'm going to set up IRC on my AIR so i'm connected still. how long are you going to be in the room, rick_h_?