[06:28] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:33] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:34] <Kilos> hi bmg505 
[07:04] <Kilos> Maaz, mtn help
[07:04] <Maaz> Kilos: mtn help is coverage@mtn.co.za
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, vodacom complaints
[07:24] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[07:24] <Kilos> hmm
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:24] <Maaz> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:24] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:44] <bmg505> hello
[07:44] <bmg505> damn tekscum
[07:44] <bmg505> telscum
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:50] <Kilos> yo Banlam bakuman barns 
[07:51] <Kilos> thats the B's done for today
[07:51] <bmg505> Maaz, telkom complaints
[07:51] <Maaz> bmg505: Excuse me?
[07:52] <bmg505> Maaz, telscum complaints
[07:52] <Maaz> bmg505: Excuse me?
[07:52] <bmg505> dam
[07:52] <Kilos> wiat we ask Maaz to find then first
[07:52] <bakuman> hi oom Kilos 
[07:52] <bakuman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzal
[07:52] <Kilos> Maaz, google telkom internet complaints
[07:52] <Maaz> Kilos: "Contact Us - Customer Support - Telkom SA Limited." http://www.telkom.co.za/emailcontact/home.htm :: "Telkom Residential - Contact us" http://residential.telkom.co.za/emailcontact-residential/escalationform.htm :: "Home - Telkom Residential" http://residential.telkom.co.za/ :: "Telkom Do 3G Acceptable Use Policy" http://business.telkom.co.za/enterprise/broadband-internet/downloads/TelkomInternetAUP.doc :: "Telkom Internet - Your ISP
[07:53] <Kilos> bmg505, tell me which one is the right one then i will tell maaz to member it
[07:54] <Kilos> they have even stopped using the c in telcom
[07:57] <Kilos> bmg505, i like mailing these service providers then its on record. with foning them they forget as soon as you say bye
[07:57] <bakuman> die nuwe ubuntu is nie so cute soos die voriges nie
[07:58] <Kilos> bakuman, het jy unity probeer?
[07:58] <bakuman> ek gebruik 12.04 en 11.10 op die oomblik
[07:59] <Kilos> en jy hou meer van gnome
[08:02] <bakuman> nee ek joke meer en se die vorige twee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pangolin_borneo.jpg en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ocelot.jpg was cuter as die nuwe een: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ResplendentQuetzal.jpg
[08:03] <Kilos> o
[08:12] <bmg505> die nuwe ubuntu kan nie eens venters transparent maak nie, op slackware met kde right click jy en daars 'n menu, en die boodskap ding is weg, dit was moerse cool
[08:12] <bmg505> at least sound is kinda working now
[08:12] <bmg505> and sound sharing
[08:12] <bmg505> was probably the no.1 reason why people moved back to loosedoze
[08:13] <Kilos> it will get there with everyone helping
[08:13] <bmg505> they had a perfect sound system and then an alsa zealot fucked it up for nearly 10 years
[08:14] <Kilos> you guys must share your info when you sort out probs to make it easier for others with same pcs etc
[08:15] <Kilos> the community spirit is whats gonna make ubuntu top dog sometime
[08:15] <Kilos> maybe that where the name unity comes in
[08:16] <Kilos> eendrag gee mag
[08:21] <Kilos> eendrag maak magt i think it used to be
[08:28] <bakuman> haha
[08:28] <bakuman> weet iemand hoe om superscript en subscript te maak in linux?
[08:30] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to make superscript and subscript in linux
[08:30] <Maaz> Kilos: "subscript and superscript either in raw edit or wysiwyg < Support ..." http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Support/SID-01047 :: "c++ - How to print subscripts/superscripts on a CLI? - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/597813/how-to-print-subscripts-superscripts-on-a-cli :: "Chemistry Document (View topic) • OpenOffice.org Community Forum" http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=28594 :: "How to
[08:32] <Kilos> help een van daai bakuman ?
[08:32] <bakuman> nee, maar dink ekt dit gekry
[08:32] <Kilos> mooi
[08:32] <bakuman> moet net gaan soek in die compose key se info
[08:33] <Kilos> a
[08:33] <Kilos> slim ding daai compose key
[08:33] <Kilos> gee my windows key iets om te doen
[08:51] <sflr> good morning, internets is back
[08:51] <Kilos> hiya sflr 
[08:52] <sflr> hey Kilos!
[08:55] <Kilos> we need to sort the agenda for monday nights meeting so i can tweet it
[08:55] <Kilos> superfly, inetpro sflr ^
[08:57] <Kilos> oh my date in the top goodie says meeting is 6th july
[08:58] <Kilos> thats not monday
[09:01] <Banlam_nmmu> kilos, did you make the tweet on ubuntu-za?
[09:01] <Banlam_nmmu> about the monthly meeting?
[09:01] <sflr> 16th of July
[09:01] <Banlam_nmmu> ok
[09:02] <Banlam_nmmu> but his tweet implied it's this mondya
[09:02] <sflr> Monthly meeting #ubuntu-za on irc.freenode.net 16 July, 2012 at 19:30
[09:02] <Banlam_nmmu> https://twitter.com/ubuntuza/status/220803403952046080
[09:02] <Banlam_nmmu> that's what i though
[09:02] <Banlam_nmmu> t
[09:03] <sflr> yes, Kilos just post the updated one :)
[09:03] <Kilos> yes Banlam 
[09:03] <sflr> we also need to get the Action items followed up this week
[09:04] <sflr> we can work out the agenda next week
[09:05] <Kilos> im early
[09:07]  * Kilos asks forgiveness 
[09:12] <Kilos> whew
[09:13] <Kilos> Banlam_nmmu, did the correction tweet go through?
[09:16] <sflr> no problem Kilos. it go through > https://twitter.com/ubuntuza/status/220805866847354880
[09:16] <Kilos> whew ty sflr 
[09:17] <Kilos> i got this from pidgin
[09:17] <Kilos> error sending status
[09:17] <Kilos> and the message wasnt too long this time
[09:17] <sflr> The upcoming Events are also on the website  http://ubuntu-za.org/
[09:18] <Kilos> should i tweet that?
[09:18] <sflr> not necessary Kilos
[09:19] <Kilos> ok
[09:19] <sflr> closer to the time maybe
[09:19] <Kilos> lol well you will have to member it. my sieve is leaking
[09:20] <Banlam_nmmu> kilos, yeah it did come through
[09:20] <Kilos> ty Banlam_nmmu  whats with the nmmu
[09:22] <Kerbero[dsp]> he loves nelson
[09:22] <Kilos> i even tweeted my curry recipe on sharpeys
[09:40] <Banlam_nmmu> lol, kilos, no, i'm at the university atm, and was too lazy to connect to the bouncer
[09:40] <Kilos> haha
[09:55] <smile> hi :)
[10:03] <sflr> hey smile 
[10:03] <smile> hi :)
[10:03] <smile> ik ga eten :p
[10:03] <smile> ;)
[10:04] <Kilos> hi smile 
[10:22] <smile> Kilos: hallo :)
[10:22] <smile> sflr: how're you? :p
[10:23] <Kilos> ok ty smile and you
[10:23] <smile> i'm fine :p
[10:23] <smile> just written http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/qBittorrent
[10:23] <smile> :D
[10:37] <smile> Kilos: do you like it? :)
[11:05] <sflr> i'm good smile!
[11:05] <sflr> qBT is awesome
[11:07] <inetpro> IMHO Bittorrent is not very useful in this country
[11:08] <inetpro> the last mile is the bottleneck
[11:09] <inetpro> that is unless you are lucky to have a real broadband connection
[11:10] <inetpro> or am I wrong?
[11:22] <smile> sflr: :D
[11:22] <smile> inetpro: I don't live inside the SA :p
[11:25] <sflr> depends what is your acceptable speed range :) 
[11:26] <sflr> smile: where you from?
[11:29] <smile> sflr: Belgium :D
[11:29] <smile> The North part :) (Flanders, Flemish, Dutch-speaking Belgium)
[11:29] <smile> :p
[11:30] <sflr> nice smile. flanders
[11:30] <sflr> I was wondering why you wrote on dutch wikipedia. hehe. It makes sense now.
[11:31] <smile> ;)
[11:32] <smile> sflr: not dutch wikipedia :| Dutch-speaking Wikipedia :)
[11:33] <sflr> haha. nl.wikipedia.org
[11:33] <sflr> Dutch one is here http://www.wikipedia.nl/ :P
[11:35] <sflr> smile, are you a dutch living in Belgium? or are you a belgian?
[11:38] <smile> i'm belgian, speaking the Dutch variant "Vlaams" :)
[11:38] <smile> sflr: yes. :p
[11:38] <smile> there is also www.wikipedia.be
[11:38] <smile> :p
[11:39] <Kilos> are the fries peeps still there
[11:39] <smile> what do you mean Kilos ? :)
[11:40] <Kilos> was it friesland or something like that
[11:40] <Kilos> use to have a frisian stallion
[11:40] <smile> well Friesland is not in Belgium ;)
[11:40] <sflr> cool. I remember Vlaas. there was a party like that
[11:40] <smile> sflr: "Vlaams", not vlaas ;)
[11:40] <smile> :p
[11:41] <sflr> yes. wait i find it. Vlaams Belang!
[11:41]  * sflr is also from Europe :P
[11:42] <smile> sflr: well, they like racism. the only good point is the independance of flanders :p
[11:42] <smile> and I don't like racism :|
[11:42] <sflr> yes. they want independence. 
[11:44] <smile> sflr: where do you live? :)
[11:45] <sflr> smile: I live in Cape Town, but I'm from Budapest
[11:45] <smile> sflr: Buda + Pest :)
[11:45] <smile> from Buda or Pest? ;)
[11:46] <sflr> Buda :P
[11:51] <smile> :p
[11:52] <smile> what's the official nation song of SA? :p
[11:52] <sflr> national anthem?
[11:53] <Kerbero[dsp]> nkosi sikeleli with apostophe's in weird places
[11:53] <sflr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKur2FAN7g
[11:54] <sflr> you gonna hear it at the Olympics! ;)
[11:54] <smile> Kerbero[dsp]: ok :D
[11:54] <smile> sflr: sure? ;)
[11:54] <Kerbero[dsp]> uit die blou van onse hemel
[11:55] <sflr> I think SA swimmers going to get gold medals for sure
[11:57] <smile> dankie, Kerbero[dsp] :)
[11:57] <smile> sflr: cool! :D
[11:59] <smile> thumbs up :)
[13:02] <Kilos> yo not_found 
[13:03] <Kilos> hows you lad
[13:03] <not_found> hey uncle Kilos 
[13:03] <not_found> tired but very happy thanks :) ... and in sunny SA?
[13:07] <Kilos> not bad ty not_found 
[13:07] <not_found> awesome
[13:07] <Kilos> we into ibids now
[13:08] <Kilos> as usual with lotsa help
[13:08] <not_found> no idea
[13:09] <Kilos> bots man
[13:09] <Kilos> like maaz
[13:10] <not_found> is maaz no more?
[13:10] <not_found> oh only a new one
[13:11] <Kilos> yip he is fine and we have gc here from magespawn as a backup but we also wanna try get a greeting script working before adding it to maaz
[13:11] <Kilos> so i have my own bot on my channel for testing purposes
[13:11] <Kilos> dont wanna crash maaz
[13:14] <not_found> cool :)
[14:01] <Kilos> bbnn
[14:48] <Kilos> dPhi, hi
[14:48] <sflr> bbl
[14:48] <Kilos> later sflr 
[15:16] <Kilos> Thank you for the note.  It appears that this station is having technical issues.
[15:16] <Kilos> http://www.wunderground.com/
[15:45] <smile> Kilos: git is difficult :|
[15:45] <Kerbero> ek stem saam
[15:45] <Kerbero> maar die gui maak dit baie makliker as svn en die ander
[15:46] <Kilos> lol i dunno git
[15:46] <Kilos> thats for clever peeps
[15:48] <smile> www.git.org
[15:48] <smile> hmm, this is it
[15:48] <smile> http://git-scm.com/
[15:49] <Kilos> what is it used for
[15:49] <Kilos> i dont wanna browse to something ill never use
[15:50] <Kilos> wanna=want to
[15:51] <Kerbero> linus torvald's version of version control
[15:52] <Kilos> linux versions?
[15:52] <Kerbero> any code
[15:52] <Kilos> or the derivatives
[15:52] <Kilos> ah
[15:53] <Kerbero> if multiple people write on the same program, you need a way to merge all changes together and save the code somehow in a way that you can revert back to older versions
[15:53] <Kerbero> ie, version control
[15:53] <Kilos> aha ty Kerbero 
[15:55] <smile> :)
[16:15] <superfly> Git is the over-complicated DVCS, Bazaar is the straightforward DVCS, abd Mercurial is the confused DVCS
[16:37] <Kilos> Maaz, git me some coffee
[16:37] <Maaz> Git it yourself twit
[16:38] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:38]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:38] <Kilos> wow he be slow tonight
[16:41] <Kilos> Maaz, define git
[16:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Gate \Gate\ (g[=a]t), n. [OE. [yogh]et, [yogh]eat, giat, gate, door, AS. geat, gat, gate, door; akin to OS., D., & Icel. gat opening, hole, and perh. to E. gate a way, gait, and get, v. Cf. {Gate} a way, 3d {Get}.] 1. A large door or passageway in the wall of a city, of an inclosed field or place, or of a grand edifice, etc.; also, the movable structure of timber, metal, etc., by which the passage can be closed. [1913 Webster]  2. An
[16:42] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:42] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:42] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:02] <Ludo> hallo almal,
[17:02] <Symmetria> hrm
[17:02] <Symmetria> I have some seriously crazy friends
[17:02] <Symmetria> I dont understand people who take drugs without first understanding what they are taking
[17:03] <Ludo> Symmetria, does that goes for legal drugs as well?
[17:04] <Symmetria> Ludo, goes for both, but in particular the psychoactive drugs (and some of those are still legal)
[17:04] <Symmetria> ayahuasca for example
[17:05]  * Ludo knows almost nothing about legal or illegal drugs, and intend to keep it that way.
[17:05] <Symmetria> ayahuasca is seriously potent, its used in a ton of religious rituals and stuff, harmless when not mixed with the wrong things, but mix that with cheese, broad beans, bovril, marmite, etc and you have a deadly combination
[17:06] <Symmetria> (same with mixing it with coffee)
[17:15] <Kilos> religious rituals?
[17:15] <Kilos> yo ludo
[17:15] <Kilos> hey Symmetria 
[17:19] <Symmetria> heh kilos a lot of south american (and originally the north american indigenous people) used a lot of hallucinogens for various religious practices
[17:19] <Kilos> whew\
[17:19] <Kilos> like witch doctors
[17:20] <Kilos> my religious rituals was coffee and cake or a braai
[17:20] <Symmetria> hehe kilos ayahuasca + coffee would be bad mmmk :)
[17:20] <Kilos> Maaz, define ayahuasca
[17:20] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?
[17:21] <Kilos> what isit Symmetria 
[17:22] <Symmetria> heh kilos, its a tea made from various plants that are still legal shockingly
[17:22] <Kilos> whew
[17:22] <Symmetria> (interestingly enough, all the plants are legal, but if you make the tea its not)
[17:22] <Kilos> lol
[17:24] <Symmetria> heh, I can honestly say that over the years, Ive probably taken every drug known to man and a few that arent, and quit them all, but that stuff is at a whole other level
[17:25] <Kilos> whew
[17:31] <magespawn> Evening all.
[17:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:32] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[17:41] <Kilos> whats news magespawn 
[17:43] <magespawn> Nothing much, today was spent, in order, changing a chassis fan, repairing win xp install, and shopping for bulk maize and animal feed.
[17:45] <magespawn> So was out of the shop most of the day.
[17:47] <Kilos> ah
[17:47] <Kilos> just another day at the office
[17:47] <magespawn> Something like that.
[17:47] <Kilos> hehe
[17:58] <Kilos> evening charl 
[17:59] <Kilos> you the charl with the drive that crashed
[17:59] <charl> hi Kilos 
[17:59] <charl> i had a number of hard drives that crashed over time
[17:59] <charl> but none of them recently
[17:59] <charl> i actually threw out an old 80gb hd the other day
[18:00] <Kilos> no man inna mail in the last few days
[18:00] <Kilos> ah then we have another charl
[18:01] <Kilos> oh you the new house one
[18:02] <Kilos> he be a wentzel
[18:02] <charl> new house
[18:02] <charl> lol
[18:10] <Kilos> hi roryy 
[18:13] <roryy> hey Kilos 
[18:13] <roryy> how goes?
[18:13] <Kilos> ok ta and you?
[18:14] <roryy> not too bad
[18:19] <magespawn> charl was the drive toast?
[18:20] <charl> magespawn: nah just old
[18:20] <Kilos> whew
[18:20] <charl> 80gb is too small
[18:21] <magespawn> i am still using 40gb.
[18:21] <charl> ouch
[18:21] <magespawn> Just to run the os.
[18:21] <charl> yeah for the os only it's fine
[18:21] <magespawn> Have external storage for the rest.
[18:22] <magespawn> I also revebish machines for kids school.
[18:22] <magespawn> Reverbish
[18:22] <Kilos> refurbish
[18:22] <magespawn> Or revurbish
[18:22] <magespawn> That the one Kiols ty
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz, spell referbish
[18:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: Refurbish or refurbish
[18:23] <magespawn> Typing penguins tapping on the keyboard
[18:23] <Kilos> i thought i had it wrong
[18:23] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:23] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:23] <magespawn> Nope, when there is a question about spelling I usually hte one who is wrong.
[18:24] <Kilos> na i get lots wrong since the ding
[18:26] <Kilos> lucky maaz has a dik pens marie
[18:42] <charl> bah what is this now
[18:42] <charl> oh pens as in stomach
[18:43] <charl> wow ok i read that very wrong
[18:43] <Kilos> lol
[18:43] <charl> i think i saw a missing "i" lol
[18:44] <Kilos> ya dictionary from afr kids learning to speak english
[18:44] <charl> and a "dik" one too... phew hectic
[18:44] <Kilos> hehe
[18:45] <Kilos> charl, you aint got kids hey
[18:45] <charl> nah but i live with my friends who have a kid
[18:45] <charl> so we are used to uncomfortable situations every now and then :)
[18:45] <Kilos> they come out with funny words if they cant get the right one to come out
[18:47] <Kilos> dik as in thick
[18:47] <Kilos> yo kodez 
[18:47] <charl> the japanese have a word for that... youjigo
[18:48] <kodez> oom kilos, how are you?
[18:48] <charl> lol thick pens... please just don't put an i in there by accident :)
[18:48] <Kilos> ok ty kodez and you?
[18:48] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <kodez> i am in good shape and spirit
[18:49] <Kilos> kids are so funny at times
[18:49] <Kilos> thats good kodez 
[18:51] <kodez> i had found a link for mathbuntu this past tuesday and for those who are interested in mathematics please visit www.mathbuntu.org
[19:02] <roryy> huh.  nice list of math books
[19:03] <kodez> i couldn't download all of them so far but will do so maybe tomorrow. i wish scubuntu had developed to this level
[19:04] <Kilos> yo magespawn  is that you?
[19:04] <AndChat|68096> Yup
[19:04] <Kilos> wb
[19:12] <roryy> man, i'm tempted to get planescape tormet from good old games and try it under wine
[19:12] <roryy> R80 and 1GB download
[19:13] <magespawn> Have you played it before?
[19:13] <roryy> yip
[19:13] <roryy> loooong ago
[19:14] <magespawn> Me too, have the disks.
[19:15] <magespawn> Still think it is a pretty cool game
[19:15] <roryy> yeah, it's a classic
[19:28] <roryy> g'night all
[19:52] <magespawn> Night all.
[19:53] <kodez> night magespawn
[20:03] <kodez> good night everyone.
[20:18] <charl> nn all
[21:09] <Kilos> night all