[00:21] <V3NG3NC345> hello!
[00:21] <V3NG3NC345> yay kubuntu!
[00:23] <V3NG3NC345> Can someone help me on uing dolphin?
[00:23] <V3NG3NC345> like I can't figure out how to do basic stuff with it, like unzip things
[00:24] <V3NG3NC345> I got a tar.bz2 and right clicking aint doign nothing
[00:41] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: hell
[00:41] <Daskreech> o
[00:41] <Daskreech> what's up?
[00:41] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: what are your options on right click?
[00:45] <V3NG3NC345> nothing
[00:45] <V3NG3NC345> just open with ...
[00:45] <V3NG3NC345> it's like it's nto installed
[00:45] <V3NG3NC345> http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/07/12/extract-and-compress-right-click-menu-on-kde4/
[00:46] <V3NG3NC345> this is what I am looking for
[00:46] <Daskreech> That's what I have
[00:46] <Daskreech> can you press alt+F2 and type ark
[00:46] <Daskreech> let me know if it opens somethign
[00:47] <Daskreech> something
[00:47] <V3NG3NC345> KDE control module
[00:48] <Daskreech> alt+f2 and type muon
[00:49] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: install the package kubuntu-desktop
[00:49] <V3NG3NC345> muon does nothing
[00:49] <V3NG3NC345> moun?
[00:50] <Daskreech> muon
[00:50] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: is this a recent install?
[00:50] <V3NG3NC345> yea that does nothing
[00:50] <V3NG3NC345> yup
[00:50] <V3NG3NC345> but it's a custom version of kubuntu
[00:50] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: alt+f2 -> konsole
[00:51] <V3NG3NC345> done
[00:51] <Daskreech> type sudo apt-get install -y kubuntu-desktop
[00:52] <V3NG3NC345> this version prolly not have repo key
[00:52] <Daskreech> >_>
[00:52] <Daskreech> really?
[00:52] <V3NG3NC345> it is a stripped down version
[00:52] <Daskreech> oh
[00:53] <Daskreech> what version of Kubuntu did you install?
[00:53] <V3NG3NC345> tho I would love to have accesses
[00:53] <Daskreech> That doesn't make sense for it not to have a repo key though
[00:53] <V3NG3NC345> I think it's 10.x
[00:53] <Daskreech> Ah but that should still ahve a repo and a repo key
[00:54] <V3NG3NC345> nope
[01:00] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: Installing ark should get that sorted :)
[01:02] <V3NG3NC345> it's done :)
[01:03] <Daskreech> GOod ;)
[01:03] <V3NG3NC345> SOooooooooo
[01:03] <V3NG3NC345> custom install here
[01:03] <Daskreech> Yeah
[01:03] <V3NG3NC345> now that, that's out of the way
[01:03] <Daskreech> what kind of custom install?
[01:04] <V3NG3NC345> told you ;)
[01:04] <V3NG3NC345> so this version had an older version of firefox
[01:04] <V3NG3NC345> I want to upgrade
[01:04] <V3NG3NC345> to latest version
[01:05] <V3NG3NC345> I got 13 but 10 is what is installed
[01:05] <V3NG3NC345> in the past
[01:05] <V3NG3NC345> I have had 2 versions installed
[01:05] <V3NG3NC345> I want to uninstall this current version, then install the new version
[01:06] <Daskreech> How is the current version installed?
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> 1 sec
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> it has update in help
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> that's new for ff
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> ok
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> nto going to work
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> cause it's 10.x
[01:08] <V3NG3NC345> and only upgradea to like 10.x+whatever
[01:10] <V3NG3NC345> SO
[01:11] <V3NG3NC345> what root folder is FF normally installed in?
[01:12] <V3NG3NC345> ok found it
[01:13] <V3NG3NC345> it's in the opt folder
[01:14] <V3NG3NC345> still here?
[01:18] <V3NG3NC345> Well Ty Daskreech for your help, but dunno where you went
[01:19] <V3NG3NC345> Can anyone help me update FF?
[01:21] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: How was the old ff installed?
[01:21] <Daskreech>  With the system?
[01:21] <V3NG3NC345> wb
[01:23] <V3NG3NC345> It's located in the opt folder
[01:28] <Daskreech> Oh
[01:28] <Daskreech>  Hmm
[01:28] <Daskreech> what version is it?
[01:28] <V3NG3NC345> 10.x
[01:29] <V3NG3NC345> there is no uninstall option so remove?
[01:29] <V3NG3NC345> apt-get remove --purge firefox?
[01:31] <Daskreech> apt-cache policy firefox
[01:31] <Daskreech>  and pastebin it please
[01:32] <V3NG3NC345> what do you need off it? I am in my windows machine and redoing my linux box
[01:33] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:33] <Daskreech> then type apt-cache policy firefox | pastebinit
[01:33] <Daskreech> should give you a URL just put that URL in this chat
[01:36] <V3NG3NC345> repo I am in not have pastebin it
[01:36] <Daskreech> you have two versions installed now?
[01:36] <Daskreech>  13 and 10?
[01:36] <V3NG3NC345> I only have 10.x in atm
[01:36] <V3NG3NC345> I have 13 downloaded
[01:36] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: Ah Ok and that's in /opt ?
[01:37] <V3NG3NC345> yes
[01:37] <Daskreech> how was that installed?
[01:38] <V3NG3NC345> that came with the custom distro
[01:38] <Daskreech> Ok
[01:38] <Daskreech> I'm guessing someone else installed the distro for you?
[01:39] <V3NG3NC345> no
[01:39] <V3NG3NC345> I installed it
[01:39] <Daskreech> Hmm
[01:39] <V3NG3NC345> but, it's like empty
[01:39] <V3NG3NC345> aside from crap things in it
[01:39] <Daskreech> Well it shouldn't have /opt as a default install then
[01:39] <V3NG3NC345> goal is to update everything then make my own live CD
[01:39] <Daskreech> the path /opt is for packages that didn't come with the distro. That's it's purpose
[01:40] <V3NG3NC345> they took distro and strpped what thye didn't want or whatever they think they didn't want
[01:40] <V3NG3NC345> then
[01:40] <V3NG3NC345> made a live cd
[01:40] <V3NG3NC345> that's what I have installed
[01:41] <genii-around> You'd probably be better off to just start with ubuntu-minimal and then just add the exact things you want
[01:44] <V3NG3NC3> text
[01:44] <V3NG3NC3> test
[01:44] <Daskreech> genii-around: Mebbe
[01:44] <V3NG3NC3> keep loosing connection
[01:45] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: Ok so how did you get FF13 ?
[01:46] <Daskreech> It's a package or tarball or what?
[01:47] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: hullo?
[01:47] <V3NG3NC345> here
[01:47] <V3NG3NC345> sorry having connection issues
[01:47] <V3NG3NC345> was pinging google
[01:47] <V3NG3NC345> lol
[01:48] <Daskreech> ok
[01:48] <Daskreech> Ok so how did you get FF13 ?
[01:49] <Daskreech> It's a package or tarball or what?
[01:49] <V3NG3NC345> download it from FF's website directly
[01:49] <V3NG3NC345> tarball yes
[01:49] <V3NG3NC345> I need to run to store I'll be back in 20 min,.. your awesome thanks for your help
[01:49] <V3NG3NC345> need to get somethign for dinner before that close
[01:50] <Daskreech> ok
[01:50] <Daskreech> ping me when you are back
[01:54] <V3NG3NC345> why is this connection resetting a lot?
[02:03] <V3NG3NC345> Dask you there?
[02:07] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: That only works if you say my full name :)
[02:08] <V3NG3NC345> Daskreech
[02:08] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: That worked
[02:08] <V3NG3NC345> hmm
[02:08] <V3NG3NC345> kewl never new that
[02:09] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC345: so you read the instructions in the FF tarball?
[02:12] <Daskreech> I would guess that you it would overwrite the /opt install of ff
[02:12] <V3NG3NC345> can I just delte the fire fox folder in opt and replace it with this one?
[02:12] <Daskreech> Most likely
[02:12] <V3NG3NC345> cause I can open it and such there
[02:14] <Daskreech> If you like leave it alone till the new one installs
[02:14] <V3NG3NC345> it's done, new ff installed
[02:16] <Daskreech> where did it install to?
[02:49] <V3NG3NC3> back
[02:49] <V3NG3NC3> wow,.. my internet keep resetting
[02:50] <V3NG3NC3> Daskreech still here?
[02:50] <Daskreech> yes
[02:50] <V3NG3NC3> so trying to figure out if there is anything I am missing that are usefull tools before making live ce
[02:50] <V3NG3NC3> cd*
[02:50] <V3NG3NC3> wine is installed
[02:50] <V3NG3NC3> ohhh
[02:51] <V3NG3NC3> VB
[02:51] <V3NG3NC3> that might be a good idea
[02:55] <V3NG3NC3> what program is good to make a live CD?
[02:59] <Daskreech> k3b
[02:59] <Daskreech> VB?
[03:00] <Daskreech> what would you do with VB?
[03:00] <Daskreech> hi poetic_algebra
[03:00] <poetic_algebra> hi Daskreech
[03:00] <Daskreech> How are you?
[03:00] <poetic_algebra> fine; how are you?
[03:02] <V3NG3NC3> Ahhh
[03:02] <V3NG3NC3> so many things to install
[03:02] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[03:02] <V3NG3NC3> this os going to be 3GB! Woah!
[03:02] <Daskreech> I'm thinking that you dno't actually want a minimal install
[03:03] <V3NG3NC3> why bother?
[03:03] <V3NG3NC3> I have 8 gb usb thumb drive
[03:03] <V3NG3NC3> and ubooting
[03:03] <V3NG3NC3> that thing
[03:04] <V3NG3NC3> I wanna make a my own little backup / my own distro
[03:04] <V3NG3NC3> basically,.. I don't wanna do all this over again
[03:04] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[03:04] <V3NG3NC3> so if I ever have any issues, I just flash main HD
[03:04] <V3NG3NC3> and be done with it
[03:08] <V3NG3NC3> what is a good torrent service?
[03:08] <V3NG3NC3> I been using u-torrent
[03:10] <geoff__> ktorrent?
[03:10] <geoff__> what do you mean by torrent service>
[03:10] <geoff__> ?
[03:10] <V3NG3NC3> that got mag links?
[03:10] <V3NG3NC3> utorrent
[03:10] <V3NG3NC3> google it
[03:10] <poetic_algebra> I've always been partial to transmission, but I'm also relatively new to kde, so I don't have a ton of experience with ktorrent
[03:11] <geoff__> or transmission
[03:11] <V3NG3NC3> ktorrent same thing I think
[03:11] <geoff__> yep
[03:11] <geoff__> it can do magnet links
[03:11] <V3NG3NC3> sweet
[03:11] <V3NG3NC3> mags the way of the future :)
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> yea ktorrent looks nice
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> I think same people made it
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> SOooooooooooooo
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> make live cd
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> what program for that?
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> no minimal
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> full
[03:12] <FloodBotK1> V3NG3NC3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <geoff__> bot speaketh the truth
[03:15] <V3NG3NC3> noah ark?
[03:16] <Daskreech> ktorrent works
[03:17] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: I don't understand the question. What do you mean not minimal full?
[03:18] <geoff__> I think he just wants an install with all his fav apps
[03:18] <geoff__> so he doesn't have to reinstall them every time
[03:18] <V3NG3NC3> I want to make a live CD of my current system state
[03:18] <V3NG3NC3> all the add ons I put on it
[03:18] <V3NG3NC3> liek everything
[03:18] <Daskreech> Oh
[03:18] <geoff__> yeah
[03:18] <Daskreech> Umm remastersys?
[03:19] <Daskreech> I forget if that does that
[03:19] <Daskreech> or you could just dd it to an ISO and then keep that around
[03:19] <V3NG3NC3> dd?
[03:19] <geoff__> couldn't he burn that ISO to disk?
[03:20] <geoff__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[03:20] <V3NG3NC3> if I can not to that that be better
[03:20] <V3NG3NC3> no sence wating a dvd if I don't have to
[03:22] <poetic_algebra> is that really a good long-term solution, though?  The shelf-life of such a disk would be pretty short, I would think
[03:25] <poetic_algebra> seems like it'd be easier to write a script that fetches your favorite packages and nabs them
[03:26] <poetic_algebra> sorry, that fetches your favorite packages, and then hang onto that file instead
[03:26] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: You don't have to you can just dd the drive to an ISO and DD it back
[03:27] <V3NG3NC3> dd?
[03:27] <Daskreech> poetic_algebra: It is a better solution but that's not what V3NG3NC3 asked for :)
[03:27] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: man dd
[03:27] <V3NG3NC3> you lost me
[03:27] <poetic_algebra> Daskreech: fair enough =D
[03:27] <V3NG3NC3> and beside,.. I want a complete copy
[03:27] <V3NG3NC3> like
[03:27] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: dd is an application
[03:27] <V3NG3NC3> if I go to another persons house
[03:28] <V3NG3NC3> I can boot live cd up and use it or installt it
[03:31] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: ah ha That's a different matter
[03:31] <Daskreech> you may want to look at the knoppix scripts
[03:33] <V3NG3NC3> remastersys is not in MY current repos
[03:33] <V3NG3NC3> atleast I think it isn't
[03:34] <Daskreech> It won't be in any repo
[03:34] <V3NG3NC3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNJ-i6wawE
[03:34] <V3NG3NC3> that?
[03:38] <V3NG3NC3> what is this file that looks like a recycling bin logo when I save with kwrite?
[03:46] <Daskreech> where?
[03:46] <Daskreech> On the left hand side?
[03:55] <V3NG3NC3> just just makes it undernith or yes to the side of the origonal file
[03:58] <V3NG3NC3> hey
[03:58] <V3NG3NC3> http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html
[03:58] <Daskreech> underneath? I'm not getting it
[03:58] <Daskreech> yes?
[03:58] <V3NG3NC3> what version do I use?
[03:59] <Daskreech> Read the page and choose the one that fits what you want to do with it
[04:00] <V3NG3NC3> right
[04:00] <V3NG3NC3> but
[04:00] <V3NG3NC3> this is kubuntu
[04:00] <V3NG3NC3> with KDE
[04:00] <FloodBotK1> V3NG3NC3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <V3NG3NC3> how does this all work?
[04:02] <Daskreech> It works on a file basis it doesn't care what's installed
[04:02] <Daskreech> other than space requirements
[04:05] <V3NG3NC3> right
[04:05] <V3NG3NC3> I think I got this figured
[04:05] <V3NG3NC3> I think I missed the key file
[04:05] <V3NG3NC3> I'm DL'ign it now
[04:07] <poetic_algebra> Daskreech: seems that remastersys is right on the nose =D
[04:08] <poetic_algebra> from the page "It can make a full system backup including personal data to a live cd or dvd that you can use anywhere and install."
[04:09] <Daskreech> poetic_algebra: Glad I mentioned it
[04:17] <V3NG3NC3> Ao anyone use remastersys before?
[04:17] <Daskreech> I would guess someone has :)
[04:18] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[04:18] <V3NG3NC3> I'm looking at the options
[04:18] <V3NG3NC3> boot menu pic I get
[04:19] <V3NG3NC3> but what is the boot menu for the installed enviroment  mean?
[04:19] <V3NG3NC3> boot menu pic*
[04:19] <Daskreech> Oh when you are booting up you can put a wallpaper on the first screen
[04:22] <V3NG3NC3> back
[04:22] <V3NG3NC3> isn't that what the first option is?
[04:23] <V3NG3NC3> oh
[04:23] <V3NG3NC3> wati
[04:23] <V3NG3NC3> wait
[04:23] <V3NG3NC3> "Boot menu picture for the installed enviroment" is that the flash screen?
[04:29] <V3NG3NC3> will remastersys give me the "try it now" function?
[04:30] <V3NG3NC3> and not just install it?
[04:41] <Daskreech> splash screen yes
[04:41] <Daskreech> Not sure
[04:41] <Daskreech>  never used it
[04:47] <V3NG3NC3> wow
[04:47] <V3NG3NC3> so
[04:48] <V3NG3NC3> it's building the distro, it is a total of 4.5GB
[04:48] <V3NG3NC3> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[04:49] <V3NG3NC3> wait
[04:49] <V3NG3NC3> that's just the sqash files
[04:49] <V3NG3NC3> O.o
[04:50] <Daskreech> Yep
[04:51] <V3NG3NC3> now you know why it was stripped down
[04:51] <V3NG3NC3> ;)
[04:59] <V3NG3NC3> Question
[04:59] <V3NG3NC3> this says 20000/299694    8% complete
[04:59] <V3NG3NC3> what is that 299694?
[05:00] <Daskreech> files?
[05:00] <V3NG3NC3> not file size tho right?
[05:01] <Daskreech> no seems unlikely
[05:01] <V3NG3NC3> also says block size is 1048576
[05:01] <Daskreech> that'smore file size
[05:01] <V3NG3NC3> block size of squash wtc
[05:01] <V3NG3NC3> etc*
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3> I wonder how large this is going to be, lol
[05:14] <Daskreech> Probably pretty decent
[05:34] <V3NG3NC3> 37% lol
[05:34] <V3NG3NC3> this going to be a while
[05:35] <V3NG3NC3> this gonna be a while
[05:39] <poetic_algebra> goodnight and good luck
[05:41] <Daskreech> V3NG3NC3: You are almost building a distro
[05:41] <Daskreech> It's supposed to take long :)
[06:15] <coder2> Hello. Please help me with changing default login theme on 12.04. I'm trying System settings->Login Screen->Themes->Get new themes->Install, but the installed themes do not appear in the list. What's wrong ?
[06:16] <Daskreech> coder2: Umm I fixed that once
[06:20] <V3NG3NC3> up from my nap
[06:21] <V3NG3NC3> 40%
[06:21] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[06:22] <V3NG3NC3> how long does this thign generally take?
[06:24] <Daskreech> Depends on the files
[06:27] <coder2> Daskreech: How have you fixed that?
[06:34] <Daskreech> Think I may have just installed it manually
[07:05] <Smurphy> Morning
[07:06] <Daskreech> Morning
[07:43] <milos_> hello
[07:44] <milos_> I need help from someone .... I\m issuing crash every thay with mine kubuntu
[07:44] <milos_> Jul  5 11:50:37 milos-GA-MA78LMT-S2 kernel: [12092.961268] Btrfs loaded
[07:44] <milos_> Jul  5 16:15:09 milos-GA-MA78LMT-S2 kernel: [27964.499293] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000010
[07:44] <milos_> Jul  5 16:15:09 milos-GA-MA78LMT-S2 kernel: [27964.499430] IP: [<ffffffff81180b25>] __d_lookup_rcu+0x135/0x160
[07:44] <milos_> Jul  5 16:15:09 milos-GA-MA78LMT-S2 kernel: [27964.499532] PGD 1a0b1c067 PUD 0
[07:44] <FloodBotK1> milos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <milos_> Jul  5 16:15:09 milos-GA-MA78LMT-S2 kernel: [27964.499588] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
[07:44] <milos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077727/
[07:45] <milos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077727/
[07:50] <V3NG3NC3> audio editing software?
[07:51] <milos_> no .... I dont have speakers connected to pc
[07:52] <V3NG3NC3> no I mean what is the best to use for that
[07:59] <V3NG3NC3> oh
[07:59] <V3NG3NC3> btw,.. last time I checked
[07:59] <V3NG3NC3> 3.4 GB file ISO size :)
[08:00] <V3NG3NC3> I'm going to cram as much as I can till it hits just over 7GB
[08:00] <V3NG3NC3> fill it with all sorts of awesoemness
[08:02] <alrea7> hi all what ican do to download firefox
[08:03] <alrea7> 13
[08:05] <hateball> alrea7: if you're on 12.04, it should be in your repo
[08:38] <V3NG3NC3> why the hell woudln't the mouse work after making my own iso?
[09:34] <Guest26212> Hey! I just updated my Kubuntu and now when I login I just get sent back to the loginscreen. I've tried command line login and it works. But if I try startx I just get a gray screen. I also tried apt-get update to solve the issue but it didn't help and google yielded no help at all, well besides this irc channel. I'm really thankfull for any ideas..
[09:40] <Smurphy> Guest26212: Try moving youyr .kde directory to a backup location. This will force KDE to recreate all configuration files and may help to recover.
[09:53] <Guest26212> Moved and renamed the .kde but it didn't change anything.. but thanks for the idea^^
[10:07] <Guest26212> Okay so I now created a new user hoping that a fresh config would work, but the same thing happens. Still a login loop and a grey screen if startx.. Only way out I see is a backup of my data and a clean reinstall.. but that's pretty agressive..
[10:29] <heathd> hello, I'm looking for backports of libqt4-webkit 4.7 to ubuntu lucid, these used to exist in Kubuntu-ppa Backports but seem to have been withdrawn. Are they archived anywhere?
[10:37] <dappermuis>  I installed the latest updates yesterday and after a restart by screen resolution has gone bad. The maximum resolution I used to get was 1920x1080 but now I can only get 1680x1050 - any ideas?
[11:09] <Guest26212> So, after deinstalling (purge) of the xserver and reinstalling im getting to a gray screen and a mouse cursor that i can move around but it seems that the kde just isn't loading.. is there a way to reinstall only the kde or is it just plain hopeless..
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:14] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_firebrd
[12:16] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: I added a menu entry to open phonon settings from kmix and it got approved. https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105449/
[12:22] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, nice job ! :)
[12:23] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thank you.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I'm telling the ppl at #kde about it
[12:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: why?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> not a good isea ?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> it's up to you , Iwon't mentiuon it if you don't want me to
[12:32] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, was going share a good Idea , that's all
[12:33] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: a developer has suggested me to change the code a little bit, i will finish that and we both will try to get this before kde 4.9 release
[12:34] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: I am denied developer access, since i am new
[12:34] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  So i have to ask some other developer to make the chanes
[12:34] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: *changes
[12:34] <BluesKaj> right , sounds good ...I'll just leave it as is
[13:14] <skreech_> hi BluesKaj and phoenix_firebrd
[13:14] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: hi
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi skreech_
[13:15] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: It doesn't take very much to get access
[13:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: thats nice :)
[13:17] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: the change is pushed :)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, good
[14:01] <phoenix_firebrd> bbl
[14:31] <psicobra> ok nice easy one for you guys this is mt first time using kde 4 i ahve installed extra plasma wigets using the buit in software but i cant find them can any one help
[14:33] <Joit> psicobra: did you ask google about ?
[14:33] <psicobra> yeah
[14:33] <Joit> i remeber, you have to switch to it
[14:33] <Joit> but i never used it
[14:34] <fooscript> hello :)
[14:34] <fooscript> I 've altered my grub.cfg , but after reboot the same OS is being booted by default. I heard there's a single-command solution for that. Ideas? :)
[14:34] <Joit> systemsettings maybe psicobra? i look at the net
[14:35] <Daskreech> psicobra: What are the widgets that you ahve in the add widgets dialog?
[14:35] <Daskreech> fooscript: did you update grub ?
[14:36] <psicobra> Daskreech, there are lots but it always stays the same i have selected all widgets as well
[14:37] <Daskreech> psicobra: Then you probably have the new widgets :)
[14:37] <fooscript> Daskreech: Eem... I don't get what you mind. My OS is almost ;) up-to-date, but AFAIK since 11.X changes in grub config are discarded after reboot. Default was set to 5, after restart it's still 0. :|
[14:37] <Joit> psicobra: did you install compiz too?
[14:37] <psicobra> Daskreech, there definitely not there
[14:37] <psicobra> Joit, no kn owingly i am using the built in kde effects
[14:37] <Daskreech> fooscript: Maybe because it's grub2 there is a slightly different method to updating it.
[14:38] <Daskreech> psicobra: Do you have the Bouncy ball?
[14:38] <psicobra> Daskreech, yes
[14:39] <Daskreech> psicobra: then you have the extra widgets
[14:39] <psicobra> not the ones i have installed
[14:39] <Joit> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Precise_Desktop_Add-ons
[14:40] <Joit> at this section Add Plasma Widgets to the deskto
[14:41] <Joit> but not sure if they work without compiz, i have heared once something like that
[14:42] <Joit> alternative page http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-run-kde-plasma-widgets-in-ubuntu-unity
[14:43] <Joit> i found also more when i look for " Add plasma widgets to the desktop"
[14:45] <psicobra> yeah they are not there
[14:45] <psicobra> i dont get it
[14:45] <Joit> but they are installed in ie. muon?
[14:45] <psicobra> Joit, how do i tell
[14:46] <Joit> you start muon and type into search plasma
[14:46] <psicobra> i have
[14:46] <Joit> or plasma-widgets-addons
[14:46] <Joit> well
[14:46] <psicobra> Joit, what am i looking for
[14:48] <Joit> psicobra:  see that in muon installed?
[14:48] <psicobra> Joit, there is lots of stuff installed to do with plasma
[14:48] <Joit> i have them installed too, didnt know it :P
[14:48] <Joit> above in the search line, can you see that?
[14:48] <Joit> its at top a white input line
[14:49] <psicobra> yes i see it and i have typed in plasma
[14:49] <Joit> type plasma-widgets-addons
[14:49] <Joit> that what the package is called by me
[14:50] <psicobra> Joit, i have nothing for that
[14:51] <Joit> probatly your sources are bad then?
[14:52] <psicobra> Joit, just added extra
[14:52] <Joit> i will show you a screenshot
[14:52] <psicobra> ok
[14:54] <Daskreech> psicobra: which widget are you looking for?
[14:55] <Joit> http://postimage.org/image/et2nxupol/
[14:55] <fooscript> Daskreech: Due to manual I used startup-manager, but it wasn't helpful. Could you gimme any tutorial/manual/whateva ?
[14:55] <Joit> man imageshack sucks, i need to register to view the file
[14:55] <Daskreech> Joit: yes the pastebin widget
[14:56] <Daskreech> Joit: s/yes/use
[14:56] <Joit> Daskreech:  whatzthat? :Pp
[14:57] <Joit> he said he installed plasma-widget-addon
[14:57] <Joit> but he dont see it in muon
[14:58] <Joit> thats why i think he has bad sources for his software
[14:59] <Daskreech> psicobra: you said you don't see the widgets you installed. Which widget are you looking for?
[14:59] <psicobra> sorry customer just called
[15:00] <Joit> np, you see my link?
[15:00] <psicobra> Daskreech, back now sorry bloody customers lol
[15:00] <Daskreech> psicobra: Yeah business would be great as long as you didn't have to interact with customers
[15:00] <psicobra> Daskreech, i have installed EG-sysmon-QC
[15:01] <psicobra> Daskreech, yeah if only random amounts of money turned up in my account would be great
[15:01] <Daskreech> psicobra: That's the name of the package?
[15:02] <psicobra> Daskreech, how do i tell
[15:03] <Daskreech> psicobra: You said you installed it. how did you install it?
[15:05] <psicobra> Daskreech, i clicked on add widgets then get new widgets
[15:05] <genii-around> !info plasma-widgets-addon
[15:05] <psicobra> then clicked install next to the one i wanted
[15:05] <Daskreech> psicobra: Ah ok Hold on let me try that
[15:05] <genii-around> !info plasma-widgets-addons
[15:05] <genii-around> Hmn
[15:05] <Daskreech> genii-around: It's a GHNS install
[15:05] <genii-around> Daskreech: Aaaaah
[15:07] <psicobra> ahhh?
[15:07] <Daskreech> psicobra: We just are following what you are doing.
[15:07] <Daskreech> psicobra: The name of the widget was EG-sysmon-qc ?
[15:08] <psicobra> EG-sysmon-QC
[15:08] <Daskreech> Ah ok found it
[15:10] <Daskreech> psicobra: Are you interested in that plasmoid in particular or just wanted to test the install?
[15:11] <psicobra> Daskreech, i wanted a desktop sytem moitor like gkrellm but thought i would try a plama one
[15:12] <Daskreech> ok so looked up that one and the story behind it is that it's not really a plasma widget it's a Karamba widget that someone repackaged for Plasma but hasn't updated it in 3 years. There is a simple change to the file that you can run to get it installed properly since Plasma changed how it handles those widgets.
[15:12] <Daskreech>  If you want it you can get it but the person who put it up has not updated it.
[15:14] <psicobra> Daskreech, i see
[15:15] <phoenix_firebrd> phoenix_firebrd: test
[15:15] <Joit> phoenix_firebrd:  test failed :P
[15:15] <psicobra> Daskreech, i just tried another one and same problem
[15:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Joit: ya
[15:16] <Daskreech> psicobra: :-/ Which one is this?
[15:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Joit: problem with the system notification
[15:16] <Joit> that you get beeped phoenix?
[15:16] <epimeth> hello my old friends!  Been a while :-)
[15:16] <psicobra> Daskreech, miminin
[15:17] <psicobra> Daskreech, *miminon
[15:17] <epimeth> I'm trying to get kvm working for the first time and am getting a lovely error message:   Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2 Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied failed to initialize KVM: Permission denied No accelerator found!
[15:17] <Daskreech> psicobra: ha ha Ijust read the description and it said Superkaramba right in the description
[15:17] <epimeth> any ideas?
[15:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Joit: no, i ended kded once and now i am getting the old notification
[15:18] <psicobra> Daskreech, it also says plasma
[15:18] <epimeth> Daskreech: good to see you're still around :-)
[15:18] <psicobra> Daskreech, and why would it be in the list if it doesnt work/install?
[15:18] <Joit> ops phonix
[15:19] <Daskreech> psicobra: Yes it does it's a little hybrid package. I guess there are still distros that have the KDE version that it would work in. (Hello Debian)
[15:19] <psicobra> omg
[15:21] <Daskreech> psicobra: ok lets try solve your issue. Though I would suspect that if you want really detailed system monitoring then something dedicated is going to be better
[15:21] <Daskreech>  what do you want from a system monitor?
[15:22] <psicobra> CPU usage memory usage network traffic tempreature would be nice also fan speed if i can get it working i dont need anything complicated like i said gkrellm does work but i wanted one on the desktop
[15:24] <Daskreech> psicobra: I think that plasma ships with a temp and sysmon monitor. DId you try typing temp in the first add widgets dialog ?
[15:25] <psicobra> Daskreech, yeah there are lots of individual wifgets that work was after an all in one
[15:25] <Daskreech> Ah fair enough
[15:35] <Daskreech> psicobra: actually there is a system monitor plasmoid that ships with plasma
[15:35] <Daskreech> hi netrunner
[15:36] <netrunner> hi Daskreech
[15:36]  * Daskreech waves at netrunner
[15:36]  * netrunner Waves back
[15:36] <Daskreech> :-)
[15:37] <netrunner> so is this a social channel or a help channel?
[15:38] <Pici> This is a support channel. The offtopic channel is at #kubuntu-offtopic (although there are other Ubuntu flavored -offtopic channels as well)
[15:38] <Daskreech> netrunner: help channel
[15:38] <netrunner> ok, thanks :)
[15:41] <epimeth> Daskreech: sup dude?
[15:41] <Daskreech> epimeth: not a lot. how are you?
[15:41] <epimeth> I'm great, just trying to figure out this kvm thing
[15:41] <epimeth> any ideas?
[15:41] <epimeth> getting married in a month :-)
[15:42] <Daskreech> Woohoo :)
[15:42] <Daskreech> Cake!
[15:43] <DarthFrog> And ice cream!
[15:43] <Daskreech> also a lifetime mate
[15:43] <Daskreech> But cake first!
[15:43] <epimeth> actually, the marriage ceremony comes before the cake....
[15:43] <epimeth> :-)
[15:44] <Daskreech> but the lifetime comes after
[15:44] <Daskreech> did you install qemu-kvm?
[15:44] <epimeth> hell, these days you get married, then get married again!  When I realized that a marriage license is actually getting married in the eyes of the law I was kinda dissapointed....
[15:44] <epimeth> yea, I followed the guide to a T
[15:45] <epimeth> then tried creating a virtual machine using virsh-manager
[15:45] <epimeth> and I'm getting this error:
[15:45] <epimeth> Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2 Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied failed to initialize KVM: Permission denied No accelerator found!
[15:45] <FloodBotK1> epimeth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <Daskreech> epimeth: .. what did you think the license was ? :-/
[15:45] <epimeth> I thought it was like a driver's license... it ALLOWS me to get married!
[15:46] <epimeth> :-D
[15:46] <Daskreech> epimeth: Oh shoot. What processor do you have? YOu need one that has hardware virtualization
[15:46] <Daskreech> epimeth: No marriage doesn't have much to do with the state other than handling of wills and disputes.
[15:46] <epimeth> yea, kvm-ok told me I'm good
[15:46] <Daskreech> oooh kvm-ok. Let me look into that
[15:47] <epimeth> its an 8 core i7
[15:47] <epimeth> Xeon 5500
[15:47] <Daskreech> that should work
[15:47] <epimeth> yup
[15:47] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:48] <epimeth> lordievader: same to you, bub!
[15:48] <lordievader> epimeth: Bub?
[15:49] <epimeth> lordievader: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bub  definition 4
[15:50] <lordievader> epimeth: I see, learns something new everyday.
[15:51] <epimeth> lordievader: as well you should... a day without learns is like a day without bacon
[16:04] <epimeth> Daskreech: I just noticed I wasn't in the kvm group... I figure that might be part of it.  brb
[16:27] <gean> hi
[16:27] <gean> xd
[16:28] <gean> hey connect my
[16:29] <gean> lol
[16:29] <gean> :)
[16:34] <genii-around> Hm
[16:43] <epimeth> Daskreech: yea that was it... I wasn't part of the kvm group
[16:43] <epimeth> thanks anyway!  And good chatting with you again
[16:43] <epimeth> LUNCHTIME!
[17:10] <skreech_> :-)
[18:11] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[18:13] <genii-around> phoenix_firebrd: Hellos
[18:13] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: hi
[18:16] <phoenix_firebrd> After I ended and restarted the kded process i am getting this http://imagebin.org/219737  type of notification instead of the plasma one even after several restarts
[18:17] <skreech_> restart plasma
[18:18] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: done that severaltimes
[18:18] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: no use
[18:19] <skreech_> phoenix_firebrd: restart kwin ?
[18:20] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: doesn't a system restart does it?
[18:20] <skreech_> phoenix_firebrd: umm you mean reboot the computer?
[18:20] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: ya
[18:20] <skreech_> yes that should do all of that
[18:21] <skreech_>  as well as logging out of KDE and back in
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: ya
[18:23] <skreech_> and it's still like that? Did you add back ni your system tray plasmoid ?
[18:24] <skreech_> in
[18:28] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: solved
[18:29] <skreech_> phoenix_firebrd: by doing?
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: removed the notification widgets and added it again
[18:29] <skreech_> There we go :)
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: widget*
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> skreech_: :)
[18:29] <skreech_> By which you mean the system tray ?
[18:35] <V3NG3NC3> good morning
[18:35] <V3NG3NC3> other then remastersys,.. what other programs do the same thing
[18:35] <V3NG3NC3> cause remaster didn't do the job I needed to
[19:01] <vadrao> Hi all, I am using Kubuntu 12.04 and trying to compile some systemc with Modelsim. I am getting several errors like "/usr/include/features.h:357:25: error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory" ../usr/include/features.h references /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h which doesn't exist on your system, which is quite baffling since dpkg lists libc6-dev package as installed and I think that package should contain these header files...After running find, I found
[19:01] <vadrao>  that those file now reside in /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/ instead of previously /usr/include/ .. Did you notice this change, what prompted this and how can I solve my compiling errors now ?
[19:01] <FloodBotK1> vadrao: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <jxjl> good morning, is there any way how to add second panel to plasma netbook, or how to show desktop in taskbar in desktop mode (same way as in netbook mode)?
[19:42] <Roge152> Is their a known problem connectiong to a hidden wireless network ?
[19:43] <Roge152> Im clicking hidden network in the network manager list of wireless networks putting in the info, but nothing happens
[19:43] <Roge152> It does not even attempt to connect
[19:45] <Roge152> Oh well, I'll just unhide it then
[21:00] <psicobra> any one here got any experiance with openvpn?
[21:00] <psicobra> i have set it up right as far as i can tell it works fine on ubuntu but not kubuntu
[21:00] <psicobra> wont let me connect it has a lock symbol next to it
[21:01] <c_smith> what module in the settings would the hotcorner be in?
[21:02] <c_smith> nevermind, found it.
[21:05] <psicobra> any one?
[21:30] <sobczyk> hi, I have encountered aweird bug, my cursor jus changed to closed hand
[21:30] <sobczyk> and I can't click anything
[21:30] <sobczyk> is there a way of fixing this issue?
[21:30] <sobczyk> the scroll is not working too
[21:31] <sobczyk> xev does not display any mouse related events
[21:34] <sobczyk> hmm, closed firefox, and started workin
[21:34] <sobczyk> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33980/mouse-clicks-stop-working-after-random-time-using-awesome-wm-gnome
[21:44] <c_smith> anyone know of a good backup tool for KDE?
[21:47] <genii-around> c_smith: I hear good things about backintime  but have not personally used it ( I generally just rsync once in a while )
[21:48] <c_smith> alright, I'll check out backintime, thanks! :)
[23:01] <philwyett> c_smith: If you are using kubuntu. You could always click on the KDE icon then go 'Applications' then 'System' and look at 'Nepomuk Backup'.
[23:01] <Daskreech> !backup
[23:05] <c_smith> thanks, both of you, I'll look at the two choices I have installed and back up tonight.
[23:07] <c_smith> ok, nepomuk backup says Nepomuk service isn't running, is there any possible reason it wouldn't be? I've had issues with it in the past when I used home folder encryption (which I'm using atm)
[23:15] <spng453> hi
[23:20] <Daskreech> c_smith: I'd probably ignore that
[23:22] <c_smith> well, Nepomuk backup fails to start with "the Nepomuk backup service does not seem to be running" is something going wrong here or am I doing something wrong?
[23:26] <c_smith> Daskreech, is there something going wrong if Nepomuk backup throws the error " the Nepomuk backup service does not seem to be running"?
[23:26] <poetic_algebra> c_smith:  I was having that problem in mint 12, and never figured out how to fix it
[23:26] <Daskreech> c_smith: I'd sadly say that's normal
[23:26] <c_smith> alright.
[23:27] <c_smith> so Nepomuk is out of the question, guess the choice will be Backintime!
[23:27] <Daskreech> Nepomuk backup doesn't do what you think it does by the way
[23:29] <c_smith> really? what does it do?
[23:35] <Daskreech> It does a backup of the edge database of the object relationships.
[23:36] <Daskreech> It's not a file backup