[07:05] <dpm> good morning all
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:31] <hobgoblin> good day dholbach
[07:32] <dholbach> hi hobgoblin
[08:08] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:15] <philipballew> aloha as well czajkowski
[08:15] <czajkowski> philipballew: you're up late
[08:16] <philipballew> I tend to never sleep czajkowski . Well when I do, It's at the weirdest hours.
[08:16] <czajkowski> take a ticket and join the club :)
[08:16] <czajkowski> altough i'm well tired today
[08:18] <philipballew> Why would I ever want to sleep when the Internet is open 24/7 :)
[13:15] <cjohnston> mornin
[13:15] <czajkowski> cjohnston: ello
[13:15] <cjohnston> :-)
[13:15]  * cjohnston is ready to go back to bed
[13:17] <czajkowski> pah tis the weekend :)
[13:18] <cjohnston> thats why I want to go back to bed.. we have a busy weekend planned.. yesterday was my first day back on shift in a month and a half, and we were up most of the night.. it was not a nice welcome back
[13:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: take less time off so
[13:18] <czajkowski> :)
[13:18]  * czajkowski ducks 
[13:18] <cjohnston> czajkowski: I had surgery
[13:18] <cjohnston> czajkowski: taking the kids to downtown disney tomorrow
[13:19] <czajkowski> ohhh nice
[13:19] <czajkowski> I want to go back to disney
[13:19] <czajkowski> was there 2 weeks ago
[13:20] <cjohnston> heh.. we went while we were in Hong Kong.. that was pretty cool
[14:16] <jcastro> heya czajkowski
[14:16] <jcastro> so since there was no quorum I assume the CC will sort it over email and get back to me?
[14:16] <jcastro> I basically forgot to ask what the next step is
[14:17] <pleia2> jcastro: I think it's somewhat unclear whether the CC actually has jurisdiction here, since juju isn't just an Ubuntu project
[14:17] <jcastro> it isn't? that's news to me lol
[14:17] <jcastro> juju.ubuntu.com
[14:17] <pleia2> I thought it had been ported to debian too
[14:17] <jcastro> well yeah
[14:18] <pleia2> and there were plans for other distros
[14:18] <jcastro> sure, the client
[14:18] <pleia2> well if someone is just a debian juju contributor I'm not sure we can be giving them ubuntu membership under your proposed board
[14:19] <jcastro> well all the proposed people are ubuntu members, pending 2, but I only need 3 for an initial board
[14:19] <jcastro> for a total of 5
[14:20] <pleia2> but the board grants ubuntu membership, right?
[14:20] <jcastro> nope
[14:20] <pleia2> oh
[14:20] <pleia2> I thought that's why you were coming to the CC :)
[14:20] <pleia2> most teams in Ubuntu just define their own leadership structure, you don't need the CC for that
[14:21] <jcastro> well I figured it would be wise to tell the CC that there's a new board that reports to them
[14:21] <jcastro> for the 0 times I expect we'll ever ever have a charm policy dispute.
[14:21] <pleia2> ok, I don't think there is much to discuss then, aside from "thanks for informing us, carry on!" :)
[14:22] <jcastro> yeah I saw no need for such a small thing to need to care/have membership granting powers
[14:23] <pleia2> yeah, that can easily be handled by the membership boards
[14:24] <czajkowski> jcastro: yes the CC will get back to you either way
[14:24] <pleia2> czajkowski: "either way" for what?
[14:24] <jcastro> also does the CC give out ponies?
[14:24] <jcastro> might as well ask
[14:24] <czajkowski> but the meeting finished last niught and I went out to the office to meet people and working now so later on will send mail
[14:24] <paultag> pleia2: I hear you're in Maine :)
[14:24] <czajkowski> pleia2: well rather than leave people hanging
[14:24] <pleia2> paultag: yep!
[14:24] <czajkowski> it's nice to get back to them
[14:24] <paultag> and by I hear, I mean, I saw it on your facebook wall
[14:24] <czajkowski> as we didnt have enough people turning up
[14:24] <jcastro> I'm in no rush, the juju board is basically the same people in ~charmers so we're not blocking on anything
[14:24] <cjohnston> we had something last night where the candidate seemed more appropriate to be applying to the DMB, but the DMB referred him to the regular MB... which was really odd.. someone who has done alot of charm work
[14:24] <pleia2> czajkowski: hanging as far as what? I'm confused as to the discussion...
[14:25] <paultag> pleia2: if you end up near Boston this weekend (or week), let me know (although I'm sure you're going in and out from NH)
[14:25] <pleia2> paultag: I'm just in town for a few days to see my new nephew, no time for side trips :\
[14:25] <paultag> pleia2: figured, no worries :)
[14:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: I'll post the notes later on from the meeting, currently working sorry.
[14:26] <pleia2> czajkowski: I read the logs
[14:26] <pleia2> sounds like they're just another team creating a leadership structure, teams don't need permission from us unless they're asking to grant ubuntu membership
[14:27] <jcastro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12080436
[14:27] <jcastro> heh
[14:28] <jcastro> pleia2: yeah the reason I put it on the agenda is I didn't want to be like "oh hey CC we need to escalate something" and you all are like "who are you?"
[14:28]  * pleia2 nods
[14:28] <jcastro> "We are the juju witch doctors"
[14:28] <jcastro> ohhh, that's a catchy name, I am saving that for something
[14:28] <pleia2> haha
[14:29] <nigelb> lol
[15:00] <jcastro> we on?
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, mhall119, balloons all set?
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/aad9745e894e49a5ecaa9825a764baae6dc22372?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:04] <dholbach> bah, Google doesn't let me
[15:04] <dholbach> let me try again
[15:06] <jono> balloons, you coming along?
[15:11] <czajkowski> http://blog.launchpad.net/were-hiring/were-hiring-software-engineers-to-work-on-cloud-projects-in-canonical  if anyone knows people who are looking for work
[15:21] <nigelb> czajkowski: I think "using a major object or oriented application framework" should read "object oriented application framework"
[15:22] <czajkowski> cant change the job spec thats the one on the canonical site which was submitted by boss and his boss
[15:23] <nigelb> well, it reads wrong to me. I don't know if it's actually wrong.
[15:36] <AlanBell> it is wrong, but meh
[15:36] <AlanBell> nobody actually applying for the job would fail to do so based on a badly written spec (neither would they complain to the hiring manager about the error unless totally daft)
[15:37] <czajkowski> AlanBell: well that's also rather true :)
[16:22] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: plus you can practice speaking english to us in here any time I promise :)
[16:23] <czajkowski> I was saying to SergioMeneses just because people don't speak English fluently it's not a reason to not come to uds
[16:23] <czajkowski> people of all levels of speaking english attend
[16:23] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, jajaja sure why not
[16:31] <dholbach> alright, I'll call it a day my friends
[16:31] <dholbach> have a great WE
[16:32] <dholbach> I have to go run and buy stuff for a barbecue
[16:32] <dholbach> as I'll have friends coming over in a bit
[17:23] <jcastro> jono: http://www.billboard.com/news/def-leppard-recording-forgeries-of-old-hits-1007484752.story#/news/def-leppard-recording-forgeries-of-old-hits-1007484752.story
[17:24] <jono> thjanks jcastro
[17:24] <jcastro> http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/06/04/def-leppard-pour-some-sugar-on-me-2012/
[17:24] <jcastro> has 2 songs inlined ^^^
[17:29] <jcastro> at the risk of getting made fun of...
[17:29] <jcastro> def leppard does rock pretty hard
[17:30] <paultag> jcastro: try some wildcat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF_3bPipN8Q
[17:30] <paultag> (or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iexoDhvwGbo)
[20:38] <IdleOne> Did you people know that cyphermox is awesome?
[20:38]  * IdleOne thanks cyphermox for all the great work he does :)
[20:40] <jono> imbrandon, around?
[20:41] <cyphermox> IdleOne: moo?
[20:41] <IdleOne> COW
[20:41] <cyphermox> copy-on-write what?
[20:41] <IdleOne> stop doing that, hurts my brain
[20:41] <IdleOne> :P
[20:41] <jono> we all know cyphermox is awesome :-)
[20:41] <IdleOne> jono: here i thought I discovered something :/
[20:42] <jono> lol
[20:44] <IdleOne> Star Trek time
[22:00] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/06/so-thats-it-for-thunderbird/
[22:00] <bkerensa> and now its public
[22:30] <imbrandon> jono: pong
[22:34] <JanC> AlanBell: OTOH, if you find 2 more or less similar job descriptions, and one of them isn't written in proper English, which one will you pursue more actively?   ;)