 whats the exact error when u type passwd yourusername?
[00:00] <escott> MissVera, you need a partition for /. /home is optional
[00:01] <MissVera> escott, I do SO love you. I've already pulled up your logs from helping me last time, incase the same errors occur :P  Thanks, Worked as always.
[00:02] <burnt> hey :) when I make a change to my etc/hosts files it dosnt seem to update
[00:03] <burnt> eg 0.0.0.0       http://www.facebook.com is there and I reload ff and it still allows it
[00:03] <burnt> what am I doing wrong?
[00:03] <burnt> tia
[00:03] <beandog> burnt: restart the browser, they cache DNS
[00:03] <mophead> so I ended up just using ctrl+alt+bksp. Is there a better alternative in the future?
[00:03] <Ghosthunter007> or set your browser to not cache
[00:03] <burnt> I have and rebooted
[00:03] <burnt> still shows?
[00:04] <beandog> burnt: also the syntax is wrong, you want www.facebook.com not the http:// prefix
[00:04] <Ghosthunter007> but from command line hosts file is instant
[00:04] <burnt> ok
[00:04] <glitsj16> mophead: you mentioned xrefresh, have you tried that?
[00:05] <mophead> glitsj16 : I don't think it exists anymore?
[00:05] <mophead> I tried typing "xrefresh" in a terminal... no response.
[00:05] <loganrun> how do I temporary disable the firewall
[00:06] <Ghosthunter007> Loganrun what firewall software do you have installed
[00:06] <glitsj16> mophead: it's in a package called x11-xserver-utils
[00:06] <Ghosthunter007> firestarter ufw or other
[00:06] <burnt> ah works now
[00:06] <mophead> glitsj16 : yeah... the terminal says I have that installed already.
[00:06] <burnt> thanks
[00:06] <loganrun> Ghosthunter007, not sure, is there one installed by default?
[00:06] <Ghosthunter007> no
[00:07] <burnt> fb is not allowed on my box dont care how much people wana *share*
[00:07] <Ghosthunter007> you can control it best with firestarter it simple easy to use
[00:07] <carlp> Greetings - not sure if this is the right place or not.  I've got several Ubuntu Precise 64bit images I am spinning up in XenServer.  If they use XFS the work once and then fail to boot with a XFS read only error.  Is there a workaround for this?
[00:07] <marsfligth> daptordarattler: I tryed '# passwd' only to try to change the root password, but I get the same result as typing 'passwd myusernameblocked'. In both cases it gives nor messages, no errors, just ignore all exept in this cae 'passdw -d myusernameblecked'
[00:07] <Ghosthunter007> just open your apps store search firestarter and install it
[00:07] <burnt> whats the command line to restart gnome pannels in gnome classic
[00:07] <Ghosthunter007> sorry "Ubuntu Software center"
[00:07] <loganrun> Ghosthunter007: I am trying to run the program iperf but it says no route to host, but ping etc works fine so I am thinking it is a firewall issue
[00:08] <Ghosthunter007> Loganrun did you check your route ?
[00:09] <escott> marsfligth, what error message
[00:09] <daptordarattler> escott no error messages
[00:10] <loganrun> GhostFreeman, ping, ssh work find, but if I try the port 5001 that iperf uses it won't connect, seems like firewall issue to me
[00:10] <loganrun> Ghosthunter007, ping, ssh work find, but if I try the port 5001 that iperf uses it won't connect, seems like firewall issue to me
[00:10] <loganrun> Ghosthunter007: may be on the server side though if ubuntu does not use a firewall
[00:11] <Ghosthunter007> open up ubuntu software center > search firestarter  then install it then you can turn it on and off but by default no firewall is enabled
[00:11] <daptordarattler> escott , marsfligth : i think it has something to do with the encryption
[00:11] <loganrun> Ghosthunter007, yep that was it, ubuntu is off the hook
[00:11] <Ghosthunter007> loganrun look at your syslogs it may also give error message
[00:12] <loganrun> GhostFreeman, the server was supposed to have the firewall disabled, not sure what happened, but problem solved, thanks
[00:12] <Ghosthunter007> np
[00:13] <daptordarattler> marsfligth :state the mistakes made, from the top
[00:16] <mfisch> anyone know if inotify events will work on /sys/?  My test code using pyinotify doesn't see events, but works fine against /tmp
[00:18] <escott> mfisch, probably not
[00:21] <c0deMaster> what is geoip.ubuntu.com?
[00:21] <Shano56> a website
[00:22] <marsfligth> daptordarattler: Thanks for helping me. Now I make few backups and then I'll try to use chroot with a live cd crossing the fingers :-) Have good time
[00:22] <daptordarattler> u too
[00:23] <trism> c0deMaster: visit: http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup and it will show you
[00:24] <c0deMaster> trism, and why I'm seeing many connections to ettercap to that URL ?
[00:24] <conley> Java applets aren't working. I have java installed. Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
[00:24] <IPfreely> its a locater I think its installed by default I block
[00:25] <IPfreely> it
[00:25] <trism> c0deMaster: I believe indicator-datetime uses it
[00:25] <trism> c0deMaster: through geoclue-ubuntu-geoip
[00:26] <V3NG3NC3> anyone know how to use dolphin?
[00:26] <c0deMaster> is there a tool for extrusion detection or prevention ?
[00:26] <trism> c0deMaster: you can install geoclue-manual and uninstall geoclue-ubuntu-geoip if you are really worried about it
[00:28] <jimi_hendrix> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my lenovo y580 laptop, and right clicking won't work. i assume this has something to do with my synaptic drivers, but does anyone have any insight?
[00:29] <IPfreely> c0deMaster, its Big Brother secret tracking program like DCS1000  aka carnivore joking,,,,, you can just uninstall it and use a college or national NTP server
[00:29] <buhman> where could I get a less-ancient version of grub2 packaged for 12.04?
[00:30] <coreyman> What is a good PHP editor that will allow me to download remote files, save locally, and upload when ready?
[00:30] <V3NG3NC3> how do i unzip with dolphin?
[00:31] <c0deMaster> IPfreely, its not about the NTP but in general extrusion detection
[00:31] <IPfreely> c0deMaster, I use firestarter along with portsentry < rocks since you can set counter measure scripts
[00:32] <IPfreely> Coreyman gPHPedit is simple and should do what you want
[00:32] <Ray65> hallo
[00:33] <coreyman> IPfreely i couldn't find where to download remote files and upload them.
[00:33] <c0deMaster> IPfreely, can you share IPtables rules for desktop?
[00:33] <burnt> is there a program etc that will allow me to block urls by name, eg, porn etc... for the kids :)
[00:33] <coreyman> IPfreely looks like it was just a simple editor for local files.
[00:34] <burnt> I can block fb with hosts but if the url said somthinginnocent.com/pics/pornscene.jpg they can see it
[00:34] <burnt> tia :)
[00:34] <conley> burnt: Put OpenWRT on your router and go from there
[00:34] <IPfreely> coreyman Bluefish editor is way more advanced and may have what you want
[00:34] <jimi_hendrix> anyone?
[00:34] <burnt> conley dont think it will run on mine, free one from isp
[00:35] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: whats wrong?
[00:35] <conley> coreyman: And it might be the only good PHP editor you can find, really. I don't know why, but PHP editors are notoriously hard to find
[00:35] <jimi_hendrix> rattatoue, just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my new laptop, and i don't have a right click
[00:35] <jimi_hendrix> all clicks are left clicks
[00:35] <IPfreely> burnt dont block with hosts file use iptables or as Conley said OPenWRT
[00:36] <conley> jimi_hendrix: Did you check the mouse settings?
[00:36] <conley> If not, you can edit the touchpad settings
[00:37] <conley> Wow. Scratch that last sentence. If you HAVE, and they look okay, you can edit the touchpad configuration by hand
[00:37] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: what kind of laptop is it?
[00:37] <conley> Lenovo Y580
[00:37] <jimi_hendrix> rattatoue, lenovo y580
[00:38] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: 3.2.0-26 kernel?
[00:38] <jimi_hendrix> conley, i dont see anything in settings about left and right clicking, other than left and right handedness
[00:38] <buhman> does ubuntu have a metapackage that installs things that people would likely need to compile arbitrary software?
[00:38] <buhman> a base-devel or something?
[00:38] <jimi_hendrix> rattatoue, 3.2.0-23
[00:39] <Kevin`> buhman: build-essential
[00:39] <conley> jimi_hendrix: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:39] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: try running the update-manager and dist-upgrade there is a new kernel out 26 might fix your issues
[00:39] <jimi_hendrix> alright
[00:39] <jimi_hendrix> was this a known thing?
[00:39] <conley> jimi_hendrix: That and a reboot will most likely fix things. If not, it's a simple fix to put things right
[00:40] <jimi_hendrix> alright, i will be back in a bit. going to do some things while this updates
[00:40] <buhman> Kevin`: thanks
[00:41] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: there is a few reports about it being an issue, I am just thinking maybe one of the updates might address the issue since you haven't ran the update-manager yet
[00:42] <gartral> hey everyone, when jumping from one LTS too another, do you have too follow the standard upgrade chain?
[00:42] <rattatoue> gartral: no, you can go straight from 10.04 to 12.04
[00:42] <rattatoue> gartral: from one LTS to another
[00:42] <gartral> rattatoue: how? do-release-upgrade shows no new versins
[00:42] <rattatoue> gartral: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[00:43] <Canadian1296> Is there a way to monitor a host for ssh, and detect when it comes online? I can't ping it, just ssh.
[00:43] <MissVera> "Ubi-language failed with exit code 1. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken" Anyone know much about this? I tried google, but cant seem to find an answer, just a bug report.
[00:43] <IPfreely> yes Canadian1296
[00:43] <rattatoue> gartral: i think its this sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[00:43] <IPfreely> Canadian1296, setup nagios
[00:44] <Canadian1296> IPfreely: I'll google it, since idk what that is
[00:44] <IPfreely> Canadian1296, its a network Monitoring program you can seriously drill down on a host with it even monitor high mem or low drive space
[00:44] <rattatoue> MissVera: it might be easier to find a fix, if you actually cat /var/log/syslog and see what the error is in there and google search that
[00:45] <Canadian1296> IPfreely: I'll install it, then if I have any questions, I'll ask. Thanks
[00:46] <MissVera> rattatoue, being that I have minimal (ie, none) experience with Ubuntu, The liklihood of me even finding that folder is slim, and figuring out what info to pull from it, is... .. Yeah...
[00:46] <IPfreely> NP I can even email you a build doc on it and the coolest thing about it you can manage it from web or smart phone
[00:46] <RxDx> is there any trackpad shortcut (using multifingers) to show the desktop or the dash (in unity and gnome-shell), just like OS X?
[00:46] <IPfreely> it also has sms email notification
[00:48] <rattatoue> MissVera: when you get that error type "sudo cat /var/log/syslog" in a terminal, it wlil give you a lot of stuff, what you want is the last probably like 10 lines of text. Go to pastebin.com and copy and past those lines into there and click submit at the bottom. Then paste the URL it gives you here and ill try to help you find a fix for your problem. (didn't mean to put step by step, but you said your
[00:48] <rattatoue> knowledge on ubuntu was limited)
[00:49] <YouDreamOfJeanie> how do I use lftp through tor
[00:49] <nooooob> I deleted my /temp folder in ubuntu and cant log into my account. The login screen appears; but, I cant log in. How can I fix it?
[00:50] <gartral> MissVera: alternatively sudo cat /var/log/syslog | tail
[00:50] <genii-around> Alternately entirely:  tail -n20 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[00:51] <nooooob> I tried using recovery mode; but it didnt help
[00:52] <nooooob> Help?
[00:52] <rattatoue> nooooob: patience, if someone knows how to help with the issue or is free to help with it they will answer soon as they can. just have to be patience.
[00:53] <jimi_hendrix> alright i updated and my trackpad problem persists
[00:53] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: I did find a possible fix, but its for the HP touchpad, so I don't think it would work for yours
[00:53] <Anxi80> hello, everytime I boot up ubuntu, it forgets my default audio out selection in sound and goes back to digital out. Can anyone explain why?
[00:54] <rattatoue> jimi_hendrix: your welcome to look at it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12078097
[00:54] <craigbass1976> Someone please tell me that blackberry isn't this retarded...  Why won't it show up when I plug in to this linux box?  barrybackup gives me a 10 byte tar.gz file that's useless
[00:55] <craigbass1976> jimi_hendrix is in here?  WOOOT!   I just got done listening to your Band of Gypsies concert again sir.  Well played.
[00:55] <jimi_hendrix> why thank you craigbass1976
[00:55] <escott> craigbass1976, if it has a USB mass storage mode put it in that mode
[00:56] <jimi_hendrix> rattatoue, i will try it. can't hurt
[00:56] <gartral> escott: it doesn't, it's RIM,,
[00:56] <MissVera> rattatour, Couldnt do yours because I cant seem to access firefox >.>  But, Followed gartral, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077384/  Now, the last time i tried to install, it crashed midway or something, and i had a lot of issues to work through, and they said if it failed again, that I'd need to see about "(A) you need to install grub, (b) make initrds (c) update-grub" But now, it could be a new issue entirely >.>
[00:58] <P-Chan> I have a problem. I can't save the resolution on Ubuntu. I add in xrandr but this isn't save
[00:59] <rattatoue> MissVera: sorry I can't help you, looks like your issue is in xubuntu and I don't have much expierence with xubuntu
[01:00] <P-Chan> MissVera: i use xubuntu. repeat the question
[01:02] <MissVera> P-Chan, I dont even know the question. But, the Xubuntu bit has never mattered until now... Apparently.  But. "Ubi-language failed with exit code 1. Further info may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken. Last time i installed, I didnt get this error, but I had tons of issues that escott helped me resolve. Somethi
[01:03] <P-Chan> MissVera: xubuntu has very bugged
[01:03] <MissVera> P-Chan, " (A) you need to install grub, (b) make initrds (c) update-grub" fixed all my previous issues. But I had to reinstall anyway. The fail install never made a user account so i was just locked out of everything. now theres this. and they asked for.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077384/
[01:04] <MissVera> P-Chan, After escott, helped with chroot, and the grub issues, it worked beautifully, but, I could only sign in as a guest because of the corrupted install.
[01:04] <escott> MissVera, have you run the memtest? its on the install cd
[01:05] <MissVera> escott, I think thats the one option I've never used. one minute.
[01:06] <escott> MissVera, it can take a substantial amount of time, but you usually know if its good or bad within the first 30minutes or so
[01:07] <genii-around> P-Chan: The method which uses the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  at http://askubuntu.com/questions/63681/how-can-i-make-xrandr-customization-permanent looks like your best bet... just put your current xrandr commands in a file and it gets called from the conf file, etc
[01:07] <MissVera> escott, Okay. I was trying to reinstall like you'd told me, but, issues again >.> After all you helped me with before, it ran great, I just could only use the guest account :/
[01:08] <MissVera> escott, I went to test memory and,  ""cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image" ?
[01:08] <escott> MissVera, where did you get this cd?
[01:10] <MissVera> escott I made a live USB using UNetBootin. I've md5sum ... whatever it is. That's fine. I've checked for defects, and its fine. And I got the iso from the source of this distro?  http://voyager.legtux.org/
[01:10] <escott> MissVera, never heard of this voyager thing. use the images from ubuntu.com
[01:12] <escott> MissVera, given the older hardware you want http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[01:12] <MissVera> escott, It's a slightly modified version of Xubuntu...
[01:12] <escott> MissVera, well it is evidently slightly modified wrong
[01:14] <MissVera> escott, I was told to try it from someone in here who also uses it. this happens to be the one night she hasnt been in here >.>   Thanks..
[01:14] <bubbly> Ubuntu 11.10, chrome will not start and has no error message when ran fro terminal.
[01:14] <bubbly> Google Chrome*
[01:14] <daptordarattler> bubbly: delete .chrome/*
[01:15] <gartral> MissVera: if you really want too use that, grab the image from a new mirror and start from square one
[01:15] <daptordarattler> or .cache/chrome
[01:15] <escott> MissVera, i've never heard of it,but as a general rule we don't recommend or support derivatives. only things that have "ubuntu" in the name are sufficiently close to standard to allow us to know that nothing was broken in its creation. so ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, etc. but not "voyager" whatever that might be
[01:16] <bubbly> it never ran, so i have no persoal data or cache
[01:16] <Shinobi> I have a link that I cannot remove. I made an error creating it.
[01:16] <Shinobi> ls: cannot access Books: Not a directory
[01:16] <Shinobi> total 0
[01:16] <Shinobi> l????????? ? ? ? ?                ? Books
[01:17] <sandeen_> where can I find a kernel git tree for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:18] <bubbly> is 712mb enough memory for chrome to run on gnome, i know they both can be resource hungry
[01:18] <temp> Hey sometimes my system freeze and works fine
[01:18] <temp> its strage
[01:18] <gartral> bubbly: depends on what your swap space is
[01:19] <escott> MissVera, stick to the ones on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[01:19] <temp> bubbly: do you tried use zram-config + swapness?
[01:19] <trism> sandeen_: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide
[01:19] <Canadian1296> Is there a terminal program (script, application, or whatever) that monitors the iSight, detects motion, and triggers a script when motion is detected? Or would that be possible?
[01:20] <bubbly> swap is 1.5g and swapiness is 60%
[01:20] <Canadian1296> Wrong room, sorry
[01:20] <sandeen_> trism, thanks, looking for a reason for some different reported ext4 behavior ...
[01:20] <escott> Shinobi, what is the output of "mount"
[01:21] <sandeen_> trism, hm but it was reported as "ubuntu 12.04 with 3.4.4" but looks like precise is at 3.2
[01:21] <jerry_l> hello room.
[01:21] <sandeen_> hm
[01:21] <Megabyte> jerry_l: Hello. The walls are pleased to meet you.
[01:21] <jerry_l> :)
[01:22] <Megabyte> :)
[01:22] <jerry_l> puppy linux
[01:22] <RxDx> is there any trackpad shortcut (using multifingers) to show the desktop or the dash (in unity and gnome-shell), just like OS X?
[01:22] <jerry_l> thinking of some bashing. have to read book.
[01:22] <trism> sandeen_: we don't have 3.4 in the precise repos, though we will have a backport of the quantal kernel at around 12.04.2 (but quantal is on 3.5rc5 right now)
[01:22] <Megabyte> jerry_l: If Linux distros were women, how would they be?
[01:22] <Megabyte> Say, Suse
[01:22] <sandeen_> trism, hm ok.  this is all 3rd hand, will ask for more info.
[01:22] <Megabyte> Suse *is* a girly name, after all...
[01:23] <jerry_l> sweet and all that good stuff that lady elf said on lord of the rings.
[01:23] <sandeen_> trism, how can I see what patches have been applied to the upstream kernel?  sauce?
[01:23] <Megabyte> jerry_l: lol
[01:23] <Megabyte> jerry_l: How about Arch?
[01:24] <jerry_l> :)
[01:24] <Shinobi> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077408/
[01:24] <jerry_l> puppy version of striped ubuntu.
[01:24] <jerry_l> 128mb
[01:24] <Megabyte> jerry_l: that's not really a woman :P
[01:25] <jerry_l> :-D
[01:25] <trism> sandeen_: might want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel, I don't know of a way to list patches that aren't upstream without looking at the individually
[01:25] <Megabyte> Which one would be the chick on PMS?
[01:25] <sandeen_> trism, oh good point.  sorry for wrong channel - thanks.
[01:25] <jerry_l> Megabyte: so where is tera?
[01:26] <bubbly> also, does X support Intel 845gl Graphics
[01:26] <Megabyte> jerry_l: Tera is off home. She said she doesn't feel like stripping her hot, slender body with big bewbs today on the webcam.
[01:26] <jerry_l> :(
[01:26] <V3NG3NC3> ------help-----> apt-get uninstall --purge firefox?
[01:26] <V3NG3NC3> that right?
[01:26] <Megabyte> jerry_l: sorry. :)
[01:26] <jerry_l> knucklehead.
[01:27] <Megabyte> lol
[01:27] <Megabyte> Blame Tera
[01:27] <melkor> V3NG3NC3: is there an uninstall? or is it remove?
[01:28] <V3NG3NC3> I don't see a uninstall
[01:28] <melkor> V3NG3NC3: then use remove.
[01:29] <bubbly> It is apt-get remove
[01:30] <maum> whenever I reboot my system, sound is maximum, how can I fix this?
[01:30] <melkor> If he was using the web client, I suppose the remove command worked.
[01:31] <|Long|> hi, what is the package name for eggdrop1.6.18
[01:33] <melkor> |Long|: do you have synaptic, or you could search via the software center.
[01:37] <Guest83202> hy
[01:38] <bubbly>  What apt channel includes the flash player package and what is it called in 11.10, using lubuntu so i have no software center
[01:39] <melkor> do you have synaptic?
[01:39] <jerry_l> :)
[01:39] <jerry_l> sorry i was searching for a pdf bash.
[01:42] <bubbly> really , i need flash
[01:42] <trism> sandeen_: you're free to ask here as well, I just thought they might have more info
[01:42] <melkor> bubbly: I think it is called flashplayer-installer. Do you have synaptic? If not you can install that.
[01:43] <melkor> bubbly: also tab complete works, apt-get isntall flash<tab> it should give you a list of options.
[01:43] <P-Chan> hey guys i am crazy. I INSTALLed unofficial package here
[01:43] <P-Chan> http://vljubovic.members.epn.ba/ubuntu.html
[01:43] <bubbly> synaptic will only work if i have the channel in /etc/apt/sources.list, which i do not by default
[01:43] <P-Chan> Do I crazy?
[01:44] <melkor> bubbly: then just go d/load flashplayer, all you have to do is put the libflashplay.so in the correct directory.
[01:44] <melkor> bubbly: you cannot use apt to install software that isnt in your sources.list anyways.
[01:45] <IdleOne> bubbly: you can download a .deb for Ubuntu from the adobe site
[01:47] <bubbly> getting flash, but still wonder if x supports intel 845gl graphics
[01:50] <bubbly> its also known as Intel Extreme Graphics
[01:51] <bubbly> does Intel Extreme Graphics support the version of xorg used in 11.10
[01:58] <bubbly> tutaonana baadaye
[01:59] <yalex> Hello, having trouble with python based apps in 12.04.  They seem to not terminate when closed and start over CPU usage Gwibber and Shotwell seem to be candidates
[02:00] <yalex> is there an updated python PPA that might fix this?
[02:00] <trism> yalex: shotwell isn't python based
[02:01] <yalex> thanks trism interesting, I'd closed it and then it saw it continue to ramp up CPU usage and everything seems much more responsive once python is terminated.
[02:01] <P-Chan> Hey guys i am crazy. I installed this package http://vljubovic.members.epn.ba/ubuntu.html
[02:02] <P-Chan> Maybe spyware? LOL
[02:02] <triunity> Test
[02:03] <P-Chan> triunity: I tested and removed now
[02:03] <genii-around> !test| triunity
[02:03] <P-Chan> IF it affected my system I don't know
[02:03] <triunity> :) sorry
[02:03] <yalex> is there an updated gwibber ppa?
[02:03] <IdleOne> P-Chan: if you don't know wether to trust the source of a package you should not install the package
[02:03] <dr_willis> !ppasearch
[02:04] <P-Chan> but before installed these packege
[02:05] <ceti331> is there a way to make apt-get force get even if it thinks the package is up to date
[02:05] <IdleOne> yalex: https://launchpad.net/~gwibber-daily/+archive/ppa not tested by me.
[02:05] <yalex> thanks IdleOne
[02:05] <dr_willis> ceti331:  you mean force  a redownload? or a reinstall?
[02:06] <ceti331> yes re-install
[02:06] <yalex> I'm only using office/browsing some image editing would performance improve undr fglrx?  I try to avoid proprietary drivers if I can
[02:06] <dr_willis> thers a --reinstrall option
[02:06] <blackstripes> anyone with mdadm experience?
[02:06] <dr_willis> yalex:  i would imagine it would depend on the exact chipset
[02:07] <ceti331> thanks, thats running
[02:07] <escott> !anyone | blackstripes
[02:08] <blackstripes> ok, so i need help adding a 2TB drive to a 3x1TB raid 5
[02:08] <blackstripes> wanting to partition off 1tb and add that, no idea how to do it
[02:09] <escott> blackstripes, without a change of personality?
[02:09] <blackstripes> not sure what you mean by that..
[02:09] <Balask> hello, I'm trying to run World of Goo from Ubuntu 64bit and I don't get an error when I click on it but it doesn't execute either
[02:10] <escott> blackstripes, you can't add one disk to raid five without restriping
[02:10] <blackstripes> i'm under the impression i can add the disk and then grow the raid array
[02:10] <blackstripes> the expand the file system
[02:10] <Balask> I read the log file and I don't see an error from it
[02:10] <escott> blackstripes, not with raid 5
[02:10] <blackstripes> this is using mdadm, fyi
[02:12] <escott> blackstripes, mdadm might support a raid 5 with N disk to a raid 5 with M disks with a personality switch but that is an extremely time consuming operation, and you should backup before even considering it
[02:12] <myk_robinson> evening all. Looking for an app recommendation for 12.04 that will sniff out and map a local area network, similar to Fing on Android. There used to be an app in the repositories called lanmap.. Any suggestions?
[02:12] <jmfurlott> Does anyone have poor performance using full screen flash? My computer isn't that strong - it only has an i3 but this should be more than enough to handle full screen videos
[02:13] <jagginess> Balask, did you try the .deb demo? (if you have the full edition thats fine), if you install the .deb dpkg -i <.deb>, then apt-get -f install, the dependencies will be installed
[02:14] <Balask> I have the full version.  A friend gave it to me as a gift, it is the official .dev though
[02:14] <genii-around> jagginess: Yeah, likely needs some 32bit deps
[02:14] <blackstripes> escott, i was planning on running this command - mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdf
[02:14] <Balask> I mean it installed fine
[02:14] <jagginess> Balask, you used the tarball/deb ?
[02:15] <Balask> yep
[02:15] <Balask> the deb
[02:15] <blackstripes> then mdadm --grow /dev/md0 --raid-devices=4
[02:15] <blackstripes> looks fairly straightforward to me...
[02:15] <jagginess> Balask, what does apt-cache show <packagename> say?
[02:15] <Balask> "WorldOfGooSetup.1.41.deb"
[02:15] <escott> blackstripes, take a backup. power outage and everything is gone
[02:15] <blackstripes> i'm just hung up on sizing and formatting the partition to linux raid auto-detect
[02:16] <jagginess> Balask, http://goofans.com/faq/world-goo/technical-questions .. it says it can run under 64-bit linux.. maybe there's a 64-bit link
[02:16] <blackstripes> isn't that what the mdadm.conf is for?
[02:17] <jagginess> Balask, if you got it as a gift, you should have some 'id' registration with that software.
[02:18] <escott> blackstripes, you should look at the wikipedia page on raid levels and make sure you understand what RAID 5 means
[02:20] <blackstripes> escott, i'm not sure what you are trying to tell me.  I've read it and (think) I understand things fine.  3 drives, with parity, ability to lose 1 drive w/otu loss of data
[02:20] <filco> hi, im trying to get irssi to start on boot up
[02:20] <filco> with ubuntu 12.04
[02:20] <blackstripes> escott, i'm just trying to grow my array to increase storage. if i'm missing something please point it out to me
[02:20] <escott> blackstripes, and now you propose to add a 4th drive. so where does the data come from that ends up on this disk?
[02:20] <filco> in the startup applications, i've put /bin/bash /bin/irssi
[02:21] <filco> it's not working
[02:21] <blackstripes> that is the point of the grow command
[02:21] <escott> blackstripes, currently a block is split into an EVEN and ODD section and a PARITY section. with that fourth disk EVEN and ODD is not a usable split you need to split the data into thirds not half
[02:21] <Nineain> m4v: :D
[02:22] <filco> does anyone know how to get it to work?
[02:22] <blackstripes> so are you suggesting i must add 2 drives?
[02:22] <blackstripes> 2 even, 2 odd, 1 parity?
[02:22] <escott> filco, that works. it starts irssi in a bash shell. but you probably want to view that irssi session so you might want gnome-terminal -e /bin/irssi
[02:23] <escott> blackstripes, im suggesting you take a full backup before you do anything that requires you rewrite the entire contents of the disks
[02:23] <filco> as the command?
[02:23] <filco> i write that in startup applications?
[02:24] <dr_willis> filco:  what are you doing exaxtly?
[02:24] <blackstripes> escott, ok, time to buy a new drive
[02:24] <coreyman> So I did this command usermod -G fuse coreyman (because of a tutorial) and now I am not in the sudoers group and I can't put myself back in... how do I get back in sudo?
[02:25] <escott> coreyman, boot to recovery or chroot in from a livecd and run usermod -a -G sudo coreyman
[02:25] <genii-around> coreyman: Since you did not put the -a for append, that is the only group that user belongs to now
[02:25] <dr_willis> nasty typo there. missing the -a
[02:26] <dr_willis> should be repairable from the recovery/rescue mode shouldent it?
[02:26] <ceti331> i appear to have really broken it
[02:26] <ceti331> i  can run fluxbox so the machine is ok,
[02:26] <ceti331> but i cant get unity /compiz back :(
[02:26] <Ayoo> hey
[02:27] <Ayoo> has anyone ever used ffmpeg auto installer?
[02:27] <dr_willis> Ayoo:  some script to compile the latest ffmpeg?
[02:27] <Ayoo> basically
[02:28] <Ayoo> anyway it made a dir with a lot of .sh files.
[02:28] <Ayoo> but I need the path to the ffmpeg/
[02:28] <filco> how do i set it so it launches "below" other windows
[02:29] <Ayoo> I can't find that path.
[02:29] <filco> i think i can do it with compiz, but compiz doesn't seem to be working
[02:29] <filco> the window rules wont work
[02:29] <blackstripes> disk utility states my 2TB drive is misaligned by 2560 bytes and that reparitioning is suggested
[02:29] <blackstripes> any tips?
[02:29] <dr_willis> Ayoo:  it may have put the binaries in /opt/ somewhere or /usr/local
[02:30] <escott> blackstripes, move the start 2560 bytes
[02:30] <dr_willis> 'which ffmpeg' would show its location if its in the default path
[02:31] <blackstripes> escott, using what utility
[02:31] <escott> blackstripes, the partition editor
[02:32] <Like> Sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[02:32] <Like> Man ffmpeg for details 73
[02:32] <dr_willis> the ddefault ffmpeg - is often lacking  in some features.
[02:32] <dr_willis> so he dident use the package manager version like
[02:33] <C_ahudf> hey
[02:33] <Like> Yes ok
[02:33] <dr_willis> Ayoo:  best to talk in channel. I may have to leave at any time.
[02:33] <edwinkcw> hello, not sure if it is a good place to ask this question. Is it recommend to use zsh? I use bash in the past, but some ppl say zsh provides more.
[02:34] <C_ahudf> can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/MX3BkFW9
[02:34] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  try both. use what you like
[02:34] <escott> !best | edwinkcw
[02:35] <ki4ro> Who was looking for lanmap?
[02:35] <Ayoo> No problem thanks for the suggestions.
[02:35] <Ayoo> it did make a dir called cpffmpeg
[02:36] <filco> escott how do i get the terminal to start so it's below other windows?
[02:36] <filco> i want skype to launch above it
[02:36] <filco> and stay above
[02:36] <filco> compiz doesn't seem to be working at all
[02:36] <dr_willis> !info devilspie | filco
[02:37] <filco> maybe there's a reason compiz window rules aren't working? :S
[02:37] <croz> Good evening. I'm trying to play Diablo 3 using Playonlinux. I just tried to load Diablo 3 after installing it successfully and I received an error saying that my video card is not supported by  D3. It lists my video card as NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600, but that is not the card I'm using. That's not correct, however, because my gfx card is an NVIDIA GTX GeForce 675M.
[02:37] <filco> the wobbly effect wont work too, i dont think any of it is
[02:37] <dr_willis> could be you are using unity-2d
[02:37] <dr_willis> croz:  i have heard that blizzard is BANNING accounts that play Diablo3 under wine/linux.
[02:37] <ceti331> is there a gui filemanager which only supports millerbars layout
[02:38] <croz> I've read that too, but I've also read an email from Blizzard saying they are not.
[02:38] <Like> D3
[02:38] <dr_willis> croz:   hen. ;)
[02:38] <dr_willis> good luck then. ;)
[02:39] <Like> Jajjaj
[02:39] <bazhang> Like, stop that
[02:39] <croz> damnit
[02:40] <croz> ok well dr_willis I suspect that I don't have the correct graphics card on my setup
[02:40] <croz> and when i open propiertary drivers
[02:40] <croz> it doesnt find any
[02:40] <croz> the drivers im using right now are neveau or some thing
[02:40] <dr_willis> that would put a big hit on any 3d game running.
[02:40] <Like> He say have a loader fail
[02:40] <C_ahudf> can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/MX3BkFW9
[02:41] <dr_willis> C_ahudf:  at lest give a small summary of the issue.
[02:41] <Balask> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11806027#post11806027 fixed my issue!
[02:41] <escott> !ot | C_ahudf
[02:41] <maum> whenever I reboot the computer, sound is maximum. how can I fix this? I am using ubuntu 12.04 version
[02:41] <escott> C_ahudf, try in one of the C programming or ##networking
[02:41] <croz> dr_willis: could you be a pal and help me with my driver? :)
[02:42] <dr_willis> croz:  the extend of my installing nvidia drivers. is basically installing the nvidia-curreent package and rebooting.
[02:43] <Like> Ainozama #include googles search help you
[02:43] <croz> ok how do i do that lol
[02:43] <C_ahudf> ubottu, thanks!
[02:43] <Ferroh> So I had a power outage, and now my Ubuntu system keeps crashing with either a general protection fault, or a "unable to hangle kernel NULL pointer dererference at (null)" error. How should I attempt to fix it?
[02:43] <Ferroh> *handle
[02:43] <C_ahudf> escott, thanks!
[02:43] <dr_willis> croz:  package name is 'nvidia-current' - all i do is install it  via the apt tools.
[02:44] <croz> and it will detect which card i have?
[02:44] <dr_willis> croz:  thats all the jockey tool does i belive.
[02:44] <dr_willis> croz:  it works for mine.. no idea on yours.
[02:44] <fuzzynurfhurter> hey dr_willas would that work bout the same for the ati drivers too??
[02:44] <dr_willis> the "Addational Hardware drivers' tool also works on mine.
[02:45] <C_ahudf> Like, no
[02:45] <dr_willis> I have exactly 1 ati system.. :) so i dont do ati much
[02:45] <Like> Why
[02:45] <fuzzynurfhurter> mine wont let me get the drivers on it
[02:45] <Like> Is ann unit
[02:45] <fuzzynurfhurter> oh lol i was just wondering
[02:46] <Like> Cdm
[02:47] <bazhang> !who | Like
[02:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> only nvidia ive ever had was in a few laptops i have rest ati
[02:47] <dr_willis> i make it a point to not buy ati. ;)
[02:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol
[02:48] <fuzzynurfhurter> theyve been my best friend for awhile lol
[02:48] <croz> dr_willis: Do I have to uninstall some drivers before apt-getting the nvidia-current drivers or does it handle all of that with magic-pizazz
[02:48] <dr_willis> croz:  it should bvlacklist the neovau drivers
[02:48] <croz> SO IT IS MAGIC!!!! :D
[02:48] <dr_willis> a single line in the blacklist file is magic?
[02:49] <croz> what is the command to check what graphics card / driver I'm using after i restart?
[02:49] <Like> No
[02:49] <croz> yes! beautiful magic
[02:49] <dr_willis> run the nvidia-settings tool to see if the driver is working
[02:49] <croz> ok brb let me restart
[02:51] <croz> alrighty
[02:51] <croz> im back
[02:51] <croz> quick reboot
[02:51] <croz> so now i type nvidia-settings?
[02:51] <dr_willis> yes
[02:51] <croz> nice! it says i'm using driver 295.59
[02:51] <croz> which i think is correct!
[02:53] <filco> thanks for the help everyone
[02:53] <jthan> croz: You can also go to nvidias website and they have a tool to check your drivers to see if it's correct *I THINK*
[02:53] <jthan> Just not sure if it works with *nix
[02:53] <dr_willis> id be suprised if it did
[02:53] <jthan> Never hurts to try, right?
[02:53] <jthan> Someone test the theory.
[02:53] <jthan> :-p
[02:54] <dr_willis> ive rarely had those features at driver sites work in windows...
[02:54] <dr_willis> i tend to have less driver issues in linux, then i do in windows.
[02:55] <jthan>  Me too. As soon as nvidia has driver updates available, my old ones start crashing somehow.
[02:55] <jthan> Doesn't make sense to me. Lol.
[02:55] <Like> To
[02:59] <croz> ok odd. i installed the nvidia driver and now diablo 3 thinks i have a geforce 8300 gs
[02:59] <croz> lol
[03:00] <croz> eureka!
[03:00] <croz> i hit ok and it still runs
[03:00] <croz> and in max settings looks BEAUTIFUL!
[03:01] <Ferroh> too bad the game is not very fun eh?
[03:01] <Ferroh> :P
[03:01] <dr_willis> or blizzard may or may not ban him for running in wine...
[03:05] <scooty_puff> howdy-hoe
[03:07] <croz> Is there any way to set a default sound output device myself? Whenever I reboot the sound device being used is the HDMI output which is not what I want used.
[03:11] <devslash> Im running Ubuntu Server. I'm using openSSH but I've disabled password based logins and use strong RSA 4096 bit based keys. the main account I use has a strong password and I've installed a firewall. is there anything else you guys can recommend to harden the security of my server ?
[03:11] <spjt> devslash: turn it off
[03:11] <devslash> wow gee thanks
[03:11] <devslash> I'm going to do that right now
[03:11] <spjt> devslash: If you're using SSH you can block the port to only IP's you know you're going to be accessing it with
[03:12] <escott> devslash, turning it off has the unfortunate side effect that you cant get data to it. throwing it into a black hole is better
[03:12] <devslash> i thought of that but its not that simple since outside of my lan i access it from 2 devices that don't have static ips
[03:12] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i tell if a device is rooted or not?
[03:12] <devslash> wrong channel
[03:12] <devslash> you need #android
[03:12] <spjt> devslash: Can you do it by block?
[03:12] <croz> Is there any way to set a default sound output device myself? Whenever I reboot the sound device being used is the HDMI output which is not what I want used.
[03:12] <yeahbuddy> hello, i wonder how i by terminal update playonlinux to the latest version (im running 4.0.14, and have read there is 4.1.3).
[03:12] <jthan> devslash: Also you can check out ways to ban people that try to brute force your box
[03:13] <devslash> i dont know
[03:13] <devslash> w
[03:13] <devslash> well if i use a key for ssh is that necessary
[03:13] <jthan> yeahbuddy: apt-get update;apt-cache search playonlinux and see what version pops up?
[03:13] <jthan> devslash: In theory, no.
[03:13] <spjt> devslash: If your IP changes you can see what IP blocks you use. There's probably also a way to get a complete list of your ISP's IP blocks and just add those.
[03:13] <devslash> also, I'm not using a standard ort
[03:13] <linux_is_my_hero> devlsash: thank you :-)
[03:13] <devslash> port
[03:13] <linux_is_my_hero> devslash: thank you :-)
[03:14] <devslash> your welcome
[03:14] <devslash> you're
[03:14] <devslash> damn I'm becoming a grammar nazi on myself
[03:14] <spjt> devslash: You could also make up some sort of web interface to add an IP to the allow list, although that's a lot of work.
[03:14] <wylde> devslash: fail2ban
[03:14] <linux_is_my_hero> devslash: im laying down with a laptop in my lap.  i feel your pain.
[03:14] <jthan> devslash: Lol. I don't think there's a whole lot more you need to do, personally.
[03:14] <wylde> !info fail2ban
[03:15] <spjt> We use CSF at work, that seems to do a pretty good job
[03:15] <jthan> wylde: That's the package I couldn't think of
[03:15] <spjt> http://configserver.com/cp/csf.html I have no idea if it's free or not
[03:15] <linux_is_my_hero> devslash: may i pm you? i have a question that is off-topic
[03:15] <devslash> yea
[03:15] <yeahbuddy> jthan it still says 4.0.14 i might need to reboot?
[03:15] <jthan> yeahbuddy: Did you apt-get update?
[03:15] <yeahbuddy> jthan yes i did
[03:16] <jthan> then that's the latest version in the repositories
[03:16] <spjt> it looks like CSF is free although I don't think it's in the ubuntu repos
[03:16] <yeahbuddy> jthan it says on their website that 4.1.3 is the latest
[03:16] <jthan> May be the latest they released, but it is not the latest that anyone has packaged / tested for Ubuntu.
[03:16] <wylde> jthan: it's handy package. I use it on my VPS.
[03:17] <jthan> wylde: I used to as well. I never really had too many bans though, so I discontinued its use for awhile.
[03:17] <jthan> Mostly when I switched distros I forgot to reinstall it :-p
[03:17] <wylde> jthan: lol. Well it doesn't hurt to be there, not like it really eats an resources. :)
[03:18] <yeahbuddy> jthan im running pinguyos but since its based on ubuntu it should have same repos? The problem is that playonlinux tells me that i have a to old version to install ms office 2010...
[03:18] <jthan> wylde: I don't know... hahaha
[03:18] <wylde> yeahbuddy: that's not supported here
[03:18] <wylde> yeahbuddy: "based on" Ubuntu doesn't make it ubuntu
[03:18] <xangua> yeahbuddy: only official derivates are supported here
[03:18] <jthan> yeahbuddy: Additionally I don't see the package anywhere in the ubuntu repos .
[03:19] <spjt> I'm going to install CSF on my vps, I'll tell you if it works or not.
[03:19] <jthan> yeahbuddy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/allpackages
[03:19] <yeahbuddy> wylde might not but im not sure if it would hurt to help all linux runners? the small amount there is i would help everyone i could :/
[03:19] <jthan> yeahbuddy: If you want a newer version than what is provided by the offical repository of your distribution, you have to compile it yourself.
[03:20] <yeahbuddy> jthan okey thank you :) would it be any problem if i do it manually (might not sync with the repos updates)
[03:20] <dr_willis> !ppa
[03:20] <dr_willis> wine has ppas
[03:20] <spjt> it looks like csf installs without any issues on at least 11.04
[03:21] <devslash> ok so i installed fail2ban
[03:21] <jthan> yeahbuddy: It definitely will not sync with the repositories. YOu can setup a ppa like dr_willis recommended, or you can just compile updates as they come along.
[03:21] <rokd> Hey guys my friend has an old ubuntu version on a flashdrive and when she boots into it the wifi doesnt work. Would a simple "apt-get update" work possibly?
[03:21] <Gnea> !arm
[03:21] <devslash> can you guys think of anything else i need to be concerned about securing ?
[03:21] <jthan> rokd: All apt-get update does it gets the latest list of packages from the repos
[03:21] <wylde> yeahbuddy: for all you know the advice you receive here my very well break your system as the helpers here expect the tools and configurations to be ubnutu's. We have no way of know what changes were made in the other distro.
[03:22] <jthan> devslash: You should probably go to the datacenter where your box is and make sure they lock their doors :-p
[03:22] <dr_willis> devslash:  logwatch give a nice summary of info you may want to see
[03:22] <jthan> ^^ he's more serious than I am.
 yeah the power cord is the best secure device out there...un plug it
[03:23] <scocos> Does anyone know where I can find a file on Ubuntu 10.04 showing me the list of installed packages? I cannot use dpkg, as I've had to mount the drive as a second disk on another bootable system
[03:23] <jthan> scocos: chroot
[03:23] <yeahbuddy> okey thank you very much!
[03:23] <escott> !chroot | scocos
[03:23] <dr_willis> scocos:  chroot into it and you can use dpkg
[03:23] <wylde> devslash: if you run a webserver you could lookup securing it with mod_rewrite rules :)
[03:24] <scocos> ha. didn't think of that. thanks a lot
[03:24] <devslash> what would that do for me ?
[03:25] <in_> hey everyone
[03:25] <wylde> devslash: well certain cookie poisoning attacks, code injection attacks and others can be prevented using mod_rewrite.
[03:25] <wylde> (above and beyound proper coding that is) :)
[03:25] <devslash> I'm using wordpress. so would i have to use wordpress specific mod_rewrite rules ?
[03:26] <in_> does anyone know some good books for kde beginers
[03:26] <jthan>  /facepalm
[03:26] <jthan> in_: The internet!
[03:26] <jthan> in_: http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials
[03:26] <wylde> devslash: ahh yeah I'd do some reading before playing with mod_rewrite with wordpress. There's probably a plugin for it already made anyway heh
[03:26] <devslash> yea
[03:26] <in_> thanks jthan. Really appreciate that
[03:27] <jthan> in_: Anytime. Hope it helps. Just poke around.  There are some good videos on YouTube too that just help you explore and figure things out.
[03:31] <gogli> how to install jdk1.7.0_02
[03:32] <gogli> i have a download the package jdk1.7.0_02 for linux and any one where should i put it and how to set its PATH ?
[03:33] <maum> volume maximum on boot. how can I fix this?
[03:36] <dr_willis> !java
[03:37] <dr_willis> maum: perhaps    sudo alsamixer  and save a lower setting. or check on askununtu.com
[03:39] <maum> ok dr_willis
[03:42] <mjwillz4> huzzah, i have finally installed 12.04 without any known problems
[03:42] <mjwillz4> only took 13 hours and a couple eureka moments.
[03:42] <mjwillz4> l3top, you still around?
[03:43] <L3top> Who wakes me from my slumber?
[03:43] <mjwillz4> Haha, I would like to thank you for all your help earlier!
[03:43] <mjwillz4> I was Zwick|2, i finally figured out the missing SSD issue.
[03:43]  * L3top hasn't been active in this channel for at least 10 hrs
[03:43] <L3top> ahhhhh... gotcha... np :)
[03:44] <IveBeenBit> Quick question: I am trying to get used to the Ubuntu terminal and I've got a bunch of stopped processes running somehow (visible if I type "jobs"). How do I terminate those processes so it lets me out of the terminal?
[03:44] <mjwillz4> It turns out when you set your bios to IDE and you plug your harddrives into AHCI plugs, things tend to disappear.
[03:45] <elky> IveBeenBit, "fg"
[03:45] <dr_willis> IveBeenBit:  job controll commands include 'fg' 'bg' 'jobs' and use of 'nohup' and ctrl-z ;)
[03:45] <dr_willis> may wan tto search for a guide  on 'bash job controll'
[03:46] <IveBeenBit> OK I will do that. Thank you.
[03:50] <BlackWeb> Does any one use rtorrent with the Magnet.sh Script to convert Magnets to Torrent files, I've checked rtorrents website and no ideas, I download a script thats suppose to help convert it, but receiving a error on the line of code if Paste the code could anyone help identify the problem
[03:52] <IveBeenBit> dr_willis: yay! It worked. Thanks holmes.
[03:52] <BlackWeb> [[ "$1" =~ xt=urn:btih:([^&/]+) ]] || exit     its failing with Syntax Error: "(" unexpected
[03:52] <blackshirt> is it possible to auto reconnect with network-manager when connection has gone ?
[03:55] <zykotick9> IveBeenBit: dr_willis i find using "screen" a lot more powerful and covenient then the typical "job control" opition... just my 2 cents
[03:55] <dr_willis> byobu is what ti tend to use
[03:57] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  is the script using sh or bash? whats the first line look like? the #!/bin/bash  or /bin/sh line.
[04:01] <BlackWeb> I think i figured it out dr_willis
[04:02] <BlackWeb> if it doesnt have anything at the top then what do you run it as
[04:02] <BlackWeb> cause before i was doing sh Magnet.sh
[04:02] <BlackWeb> then did ./Magnet.sh and it worked
[04:02] <BlackWeb> with ./Magnet.sh is that just plain sh
[04:03] <kanupatar> while installing linux , what are the recommended mount points ? /home , / and /swap?
[04:03] <croz> Anyone know how to set a particular sound output device as the default. Every time I reboot I have no sound because the system is using the wrong output device (using HDMI output instead of the laptop speakers).
[04:03] <gogli> kanupatar: / only
[04:04] <jthan> croz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145135/set-default-sound-device-output
[04:05] <kanupatar> gogli: so if i have 100 gb available for installation , i have to give one / mount point with ext4 journaling primary partition ?
[04:06] <gogli> well without '/' , you can't install linux on system .Its recommended .after allotting space  to /(root) , you can choose other acording to your need
[04:07] <zykotick9> kanupatar: creating a swap partition (equal to RAM) is a good idea (but it doesn't get mounted to /swap if you check fstab swap gets a "none" for a mount point ;)
[04:07] <croz> thanks jthan
[04:07] <croz> Any of you know or recommend any software that will dim the screen kind of like apps for mac os x do.
[04:07] <croz> My screen is too bright late at night, even when I set the LCD to the dimmest settings.
[04:07] <croz> Also early in the morning it's too bright. my eyes want dark :(
[04:08] <kanupatar> zykotick9: so /home and / are only needed ?
[04:08] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  it s  poorly done script then. it should begin with a #!/bin/bash line,  and you dont sh .thething. :) that would run it with sh not bash.
[04:08] <jthan> croz: NOt sure if this will pertain to 12.04 http://wilmor24.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/change-screen-brightness-from-terminal-ubuntu-10-04/
[04:08] <kanupatar> why do create mount points?
[04:08] <zykotick9> kanupatar: i don't personally think /home is a good idea - but MOST would disagree.
[04:08] <devslash> i set up mail or so i thought but when  i do mail myemail@gmail.com and type a message, hit ctrl D then enter i don't see an error but i don't receive it at myemail@gmail.com
[04:09] <jthan> devslash: You have a mail server running?
[04:09] <devslash> i think so
[04:09] <devslash> i did a dpkg-configure package name where package was the mail host name
[04:09] <gogli> kanupatar: / is  necessary .mount point are needed for better use of memory management
[04:09] <devslash> i don't remember right now
[04:09] <BlackWeb> ya its only 3 lines, and it works to convert the magnet link to torrent but the torrent file doesnt work which i only got it to work by ./Magnet.sh not sh Magnet.sh
[04:10] <jthan> devslash: That seems a bit too simple :-p
[04:10] <kanupatar>  ok..in which mount point i need to install the linux? /home?
[04:10] <zykotick9> gogli: ".mount point..." what?  mount points have 0 to do with memory
[04:10] <devslash> i followed a gui dialog which asked a bunch of questions
[04:10] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  thats because its using 'bash' features,  :) not the less complex 'sh'
[04:10] <jthan> devslash: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch21_:_Configuring_Linux_Mail_Servers#Configuring_Sendmail
[04:10] <devslash> and created a main.cfg
[04:11] <BlackWeb> Was trying to make sure my server can convert the magnet links to torrent files then have rtorrent get them for me but I found a website that will do it for free, which is what I might have to end up using
[04:11] <gogli> zykotick9: mount point are very important for memory management . kanupatar : choose / for installing linux
[04:11] <BlackWeb> Thanks :)
[04:11] <kanupatar> for a 100 gb hdd and 2 gb ram , is this would be fine ? 50 gb - /home , 45gb - / and 5 gb swap ?
[04:12] <kanupatar> gogli: this is for y0ou
[04:12]  * dr_willis dosent see how mountpoints are related to memory management.. Hard drive Space management.. yes.. memory.. no.
[04:12] <gogli> kanupatar: whats your RAM?
[04:12] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  20gb for / has been plenty for me. many people just use 10gb for /
[04:12] <devslash> ok thanks
[04:12] <kanupatar> 2gb
[04:13] <croz> is there any software to help dim the screen or add a darker layer over what im reading. i have my laptop set to dimmest setting and it's still too bright.
[04:13] <kanupatar> dr_willis: so what would be the minimum required for / ?
[04:13] <gogli> kanupatar:  then use only 2gb for swap
[04:13] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  depends on what you are doing. i wouldent go under 10gb.
[04:13] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  ive definatly filled up a 10gb / befor.
[04:13] <zykotick9> kanupatar: 2gb is WAY to small!
[04:14] <kanupatar>  so what would be the minimum required for / ?
[04:14] <kanupatar> why we need 10 gb min?
[04:14] <Aptar> I have a CD that is used to install a program on a windows O.S.....will the cd run using wine?
[04:14] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  cache and tmp space are also on /
[04:15] <kanupatar> dr_willis: ok
[04:15] <kanupatar> all others in //home?
[04:15] <dr_willis> Aptar:  should. or copy all the files from it. to your home dir and wine thesetup.exe
[04:15] <zykotick9> kanupatar: default install is 4+GB and updating adding software takes space!
[04:15] <kanupatar> what happens if i didn't create a  partition for / ?
[04:15] <zykotick9> !requirements
[04:16] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  you have to have a / partition.
[04:16] <dr_willis>  / is the 'root' of the whole filesystem/install/os ;)
[04:17] <Aptar> dr_willis, k thanks
[04:18] <gogli> dr_willis: hey ! any offline browser that i can use
[04:18] <dr_willis> !info httrack
[04:18] <kanupatar> dr_willis: doesn't work if without / ?
[04:18] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  without / there is no OS.
[04:19] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  like building a house with no foundataion..
[04:19] <mjwillz4> Maybe offtopic, does anyone here play/have installed Heroes of Newerth? I might be missing a clue on how to execute this file.
[04:19] <kanupatar> dr_willis: ok
[04:20] <kanupatar> dr_willis: without /home?
[04:20] <dr_willis>  /home exists under /
[04:20] <dr_willis> so it can be just a directory
[04:20] <dr_willis> or it can be its own filesystem you mount TO /home/
[04:21] <Chad___> kanupatar: dr_willis is correct. I'd install my home folder on a seperate partition if I were you.
[04:21] <dr_willis> my /home/ is on its own 3TB hard drive ;)
[04:22] <gogli> dr_willis: is httrack cli based ?
[04:22] <zykotick9> dr_willis: my /home is on my SSD - but my files are stored/mounted elsewhere ;)
[04:22] <dr_willis> gogli: no idea. not used it in ages. check its docs
[04:23] <kanupatar> dr_willis: Chad___ what happens if i install without /home ?
[04:24] <Chad___> If you hose your system, you'll be screwed.
[04:24] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  if you mean withiut a /home/ partition then home becomed a directory on /
[04:24] <dr_willis> you dont install without a /home/ normally :) the dir is where all yoiur users 'home' directrrories are kept.
[04:24] <kanupatar> dr_willis: ohh ..otherwise ? /home will not be shwn under / ?
[04:25] <dr_willis> kanupatar:  /home can  be a directory OR a filesystem moiunted to /home/
[04:25] <Chad___> kanupatar: /home will always be shown under /
[04:25] <dr_willis> you are not going to beinstalling without a /home/ being made some way or another..
[04:25] <kanupatar> Chad___: ohh ok..this was the point
[04:25] <dr_willis> so im not sure why yoiu are even asking about it. :)
[04:26] <dr_willis> make home its own partition, or not.. for most people it wont matter much.
[04:26] <twobitsprite> any one here have an android phone? I can't mount the USB drive on it... I've found some forums posts but they're confused and not very helpful...
[04:26] <dr_willis> if you got the hd space  - it can make life easier having it on its own partition
[04:26] <aaas> anyone know how to disable pulseaudio?
[04:27] <dr_willis> twobitsprite:  perhaps check in #android  my phone just plugs in and shows up. but newer phones use some differnt feature i recall.
[04:33] <MechanisM> hello, anyone knows why I'm getting mouse/keyboard freezing after attaching some usb devices like phone via cable or VOIP phone or USB-bluetooth and some others?
[04:33] <MechanisM> mouse/keyboard both via USB
[04:34] <MechanisM> it's not just sometime happened. I'ts always since 11.04..
[04:36] <gogli> dr_willis: i found problem in finding command for application .I want to use those command in startup applications .Can you tell me an easiest way to do that
[04:39] <chu> What does format quiet do?
[04:39] <deltatia> c
[04:41] <dax> chu: wrong window, I assume :P
[04:42] <Chad___> gogli: Go to the Control Gear (in upper right) –> Startup Applications. Next click add. The programs should be in /usr/bin.
[04:42] <dr_willis> gogli:  that made no sence to me at all...
[04:42] <Chad___> dr_willis: I'm confused too...
[04:43] <gogli> dr_willis: suppose i want to run a application on startup .what should i add there
[04:43] <dr_willis> Chad___:  seems common this week.. ;)
[04:43] <wylde> dr_willis: yep.
[04:43] <Chad___> gogli: Just follow my intructions
[04:43] <dr_willis> gogli:  totally depends on what app you want to run.  if it has a .desktop file, you could copy that file to the autorun dir.
[04:44] <Pinkamena_D> hi i stupidly flushed my ip routes now route -n shows the destination one as the ip and the gateway 0.0.0.0 one, but not the other one for the reverse
[04:45] <Chad___> gogli: You can even search it in the dash and simply drag and drop it
[04:45] <Pinkamena_D> how do i get that other route back to make the internet work again
[04:45] <gogli> Chad___: dr_willis: .desktop are launcher ,should thet have same procedure
[04:45] <Pinkamena_D> like for example the one it shows now is destination: 192.168.3.0 gateway: 0.0.0.0
[04:45] <dr_willis> you can put scripts, .desktop files, or links or even the executable in the  autorun directory (or was it autostart )  i forget the exact path to the dir.
[04:46] <Pinkamena_D> but i know theirs supposed to be one going the reverse
[04:47] <wylde> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077562/  <--- the proof of the confusion lol
[04:49] <Ayoo> hey has anyone every installed flvtool2 n' got the error stating you need /ruby/ installed?
[04:49] <Pinkamena_D> also when i try to ip route add default it gives a "rnetlink: no such process:
[04:49] <Ayoo> I'd like to know what ruby I'd need to install.
[04:50] <dr_willis> !find ruby
[04:50] <dr_willis> i thought the ruby intermerter was installed by default.
[04:50] <gogli> chadi: thanks
[04:50] <dr_willis> !info ruby
[04:51] <Ayoo> There's like rubygems.
[04:51] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ruby        perhaps?
[04:51] <zykotick9> dr_willis: if it says "optional" does that mean it's not included by default?
[04:51] <daniel110> I have a problem, i just installed ubuntu and everything seems to work but whenever i close the lid of my laptop, the wifi stops working properly
[04:51] <dr_willis> ruby can be used for cli scripting als other ways. i rarely mess with ruby.
[04:52] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  means its not installed by default i imagine.
[04:52] <daniel110> anyone experienced this problem?
[04:53] <zykotick9> !info lightdm | dr_willis wouldn't this be in ubuntu-desktop?
[04:53] <deper29> daniel110, yeah, it's a known issue I believe
[04:53] <hpuser23422> ubuntu 12.04 crashed X when copying a 6gb (approx) file to SDXC card formatted with btrfs.  ext3, ext4, reiserfs also failed.  NTFS worked though.
[04:53] <dr_willis> daniel110:  drivers/modules/devices crashing and not comming back after a hibernatee/suspend are fairly common issues sadly.
[04:54] <dax> zykotick9: No, it doesn't mean not included by default
[04:54] <zykotick9> dax: i didn't think so - do you know details?
[04:54] <gogli> SQL lite or My SQL is their any difference ?
[04:54] <dax> zykotick9: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-archive.html#s-priorities
[04:54] <dax> zykotick9: It's not very useful in Ubuntu.
[04:55] <zykotick9> dax: it's only for my knowledge of ubuntu (i don't use it myself, but for this channel it's good info to know)  THANKS
[04:55] <dax> zykotick9: (because unlike Debian, it doesn't install required+important+standard priorities + tasksel stuff by default)
[04:56] <daniel110> deper29: any solutions? i tried google it but i just found people complaining about the issue
[04:57] <bob1284> hi folks is it possible to use a 2.6x kernel instead of the new 3 series ones?
[04:57] <deper29> daniel110, I've never bothered to fix it myself. The problem is that if your laptop goes into suspend mode for some reason networking becomes disabled. To make matters worse, it only seems to happen sometimes for me
[04:58] <zykotick9> bob1284: 10.04 still has a little while of support
[04:59] <bob1284> zykotick9: thanks I just have a wireless card that works great for 2.6 kernels but is dead in the water with the new 3 series.
[04:59] <daniel110> deper29: how do i fix it when i turn it on. I restart the laptop each time
[05:00] <dr_willis> disable where the laptop hibernate/siuspemnds when you shut the lid..
[05:00] <dr_willis> or perhaps unload/reload the network card module.
[05:00] <deper29> I go to the wireless thing at the top, right click, then enable networking
[05:00] <zykotick9> bob1284: my hauppauge tv card had a kernel regreshion issue - so i feel your pain
[05:00] <deper29> or do what dr_willis says. He is a genius among men and has helped me out far too many times
[05:01] <deper29> :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> dont ever shut the lid. ;)
[05:01] <kiamo> hi
[05:02] <kiamo> any clues on how to fix "no screens found" when x tries to start on live usb.  I cannot install nvidia drivers due to it not being persistent.
[05:02] <dr_willis> !nomodeset  kiamo
[05:02] <dr_willis> !nomodeset  | kiamo
[05:02] <bob1284> zykotick9: thanks think I'll give kubuntu a shot
[05:02] <kiamo> ah thanks Dr :)
[05:02] <zykotick9> bob1284: same kernel
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> is it possible for root to start an application from another user (from terminal)?
[05:04] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  should be possible. depends on the details as to how to go about it
[05:04] <deper29> lotuspsychje, do you mean logging in through terminal as another user then launching the application?
[05:04] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: yes.  see sudo and/or su.
[05:04] <geirha> lotuspsychje: yes, sudo -u otheruser command
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lets say i want to run chrome from another user
[05:05] <dr_willis> from user bob. as user bill?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> yes
[05:05] <dr_willis> old skool way.. use 'sux' command. ;)
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:05] <dr_willis> open teminal as bob, do 'sux bill'  run command...
[05:05] <dr_willis> !info sux
[05:05] <Chad___> dr_willis: Haha. I thought it was su? 0.O
[05:05] <dr_willis> its the X credentials that will be a security issue IF you just use su.
[05:06] <dr_willis> for non X apps. su will work.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> lemme install that cool
[05:06] <Chad___> dr_willis: Ah, okay. Thanks for informing me :)
[05:06] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i've never actually used sux before, but the fact it's based of su is probably not ideal in an ubuntu environment...
[05:06] <dr_willis> theres ways to do the credentials by hand.. but i cant rember  the proper way to do it.
[05:06] <dr_willis> i THINK.. somthing like 'xhost + localhost'  'su theotheruser' 'run the command'
[05:07] <dr_willis> su is fine for switching to a USEr.. but not to swwitch to root....
[05:07] <buhman> is ubuntu's initramfs supposed to be able to handly root+/boot in mdraid+lvm?
[05:07] <zykotick9> dr_willis: cool - sorry.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: will it influence the other users history or can it be run clean?
[05:07] <dr_willis> bash history? not sure.
[05:08] <buhman> I've got grub working properly, but (grub I think) hangs on "Loading initial ramdisk.."
[05:08] <deper29> lotuspsychje, just put a space before you make the command
[05:08] <buhman> by "working properly" I mean that grub loads grub.cfg properly when grub.cfg is located in a lvm logical volume contained inside a mdraid array.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> deper29:tnx lol cool trick
[05:09] <deper29> lotuspsychje, no prob ;)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: isnt that a security issue other users can run packages like that?
[05:10] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  thats the whold thing about X credentials to keep it from happing unless you set it to be allowed
[05:10] <dr_willis>  xhost +localhost is not  a 'good' way to do it. ;)
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> ok i got it
[05:10] <dr_willis> not sure of the proper way. which is why i use sux.
[05:10] <kiamo> bah
[05:10] <kiamo> no joy
[05:10] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: one user's history should NEVER be seen by another user...
[05:10] <kiamo> still getting No screens found
[05:10] <dr_willis> bash historyis a totally differnt beast. ;)
[05:10] <kiamo> it's a really old card, geforce fx 5200 PCI
[05:11] <deper29> zykotick9, if you sudo you can see it can't you?
[05:11] <IPfreely> Correct its why you should encrypt home drive per user and have a logout script to issue history -c
[05:11] <dr_willis> kiamo:  perhaps try text mode, then try to tweak the X settings.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9:so if another user install sux he could never penetrate roots information?
[05:11] <kiamo> where do I tweak?
[05:11] <dr_willis> sux lets one user switch to another user. not to root.
[05:11] <dr_willis> !text
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> cool tnx
[05:12] <zykotick9> deper29: ? not 100% i don't use sudo much anymore... i foolishly consider it a security risk, while ubuntu believes it's an advantage.  i believe in users and admins as two entities ;)
[05:12] <kiamo> yea, im here in a bash shell
[05:12] <kiamo> but not sure how to continue on ^^
[05:13] <dr_willis> kiamo:  not sure with that old a card.
[05:13] <dr_willis> kiamo:  what sort of monitor are you using? hdi/dvi/vga?laptop?
[05:13] <kiamo> dvi
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: when i try sux username chromium, password says incorrect
[05:14] <dr_willis> you could try installing the nvidia-current driver
[05:14] <dr_willis> sux may want the other users password.. not the current users password.
[05:14] <dr_willis> been ages since i last used sux
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[05:15] <dr_willis> makes more sence for sux to want the OTHER users password. ;)
[05:15] <IPfreely> sudo in its default form is a security risk but you can make it secure then use selinux to create policies to lock it down more.
[05:15] <wylde> I know the nvidia-current is working for my NVIDIA Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1) <-- although it's running my 3rd monitor.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: now its says env: chromium folder does not exist
[05:16] <gogli> how to know , how much swap area your system have given by me
[05:16] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  no idea.
[05:16] <dr_willis> try it with a simpiler app lotuspsychje  like gedit
[05:17] <wylde> gogli: free
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: cool that worked
[05:17] <IPfreely> lotuspsychje, why the google browser?  it calls home
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> (gedit:6254): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> it started gedit though
[05:18] <gogli> wylde : Swap:            0          0          0  , what that means
[05:18] <dr_willis> the sux'd user has no session manager running... so that makes sence..
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:maybe it will not start x stuff after all
[05:18] <wylde> gogli: look at the headings in the columns? I your case that means you have no swap
[05:18] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  thers more to gnome then just a single app. ::)
[05:18] <wylde> I =In
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> brb
[05:19] <gogli> wylde : how to create Swap area now
[05:19] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: a quick check of "man sudo" shows an option for "sudo -u USER foo"...
[05:19] <dr_willis> !swap
[05:19] <dr_willis> su/sux can be used when the user has no sudo rights  - i beliove.
[05:20] <croz> dr_willis:  what does "set editor" mean? here is the context for the question
[05:20] <croz> Set EDITOR to your favorite shell editor. Some examples:
[05:20] <croz>     (in bash) export EDITOR=pico or export EDITOR=vi ...
[05:20] <croz>     (in csh) setenv EDITOR pico or setenv EDITOR vi ...
[05:20] <croz>     Use pico or nano if unsure.
[05:20] <FloodBot1> croz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <dr_willis> croz:  EDITOR is a ssytem variable you can set.
[05:20] <IPfreely> no the user must be part of the sudoers in order to use the sudo command
[05:20] <croz> how do i set EDITOR. i've never heard of this
[05:21] <dr_willis> croz:  the paste you gave.. has the exact commands to set it..
[05:21] <dr_willis> bash system variables/enviroment variables...
[05:21] <dr_willis> check the  section out in the various bash docs/guides
[05:21] <gogli> dr_willis: i want to create Swap area on LINUX USB
[05:21] <croz> how do i knwo if im using bash or csh?
[05:21] <croz> im assuming bash
[05:22] <anon> !topic
[05:22] <dr_willis> gogli:  then you make a swap partion, or file and enable it.
[05:22] <G4L4CT1C4> what's the different between sh and dash? does anyone knows?
[05:22] <dr_willis> dash is a optmiozed 'sh'
[05:22] <dr_willis> optmized
[05:22] <dr_willis> !info dash
[05:22] <gogli> dr_willis : is it like casper-rw
[05:22] <Fuginator> Has anyone here used the MAAS w\ Openstack? I've used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure and have an issue...
[05:23] <dr_willis> gogli:  swap can be a partition, or  you can use a swap file.
[05:23] <G4L4CT1C4> thanks dr_willis :)
[05:23] <wylde> Fuginator: I'm thinking #ubuntu-server may have more insight into that
[05:23] <IPfreely> if you use swap as partition make sure its encrypted
[05:24] <dr_willis> cant say i ever bothe rto encrypt swap... guess my dog could try to haxxor me whikle im at work,. l)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: hmm how exactly would that work
[05:24] <dr_willis> then again. most new systeems with decent ram - rarely touch swap
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> IPfreely: u dont like chroium whatfor?
[05:25] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: what are you trying to launch as the other user exactly?
[05:25] <IPfreely> dr_willis, If you dont encrypt swap your are prone to exploits and someone with the know how can recover critical information
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9:lets say i wanna start chromium of another user from root shell
[05:26] <dr_willis> they may get my reddit password! ;0
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9:sudo -u otheruser chromium?
[05:26] <IPfreely> well that is the difference from a security person vs a novice user
[05:26] <dr_willis> sudo wont let a X app run as the other user.. i belive.
[05:26] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: from root shell??? root can do anything - and you should be logged in as root on ubuntu.  NO - don't use sudo with GUI apps!
[05:27] <zykotick9> s/should/shouldn't/
[05:27] <zykotick9> !gksudo
[05:27] <Fuginator> wylde: thanks, I'll try there.
[05:27] <IPfreely> if I am not mistaken the first user account when installing Ubuntu has super user rights in most the gui apps if you dont check your policykit
[05:28] <G4L4CT1C4> dr_willis: how to set up nginx server? coz I've always got an error message to star the nginx webserver
[05:28] <dr_willis> first user has sudo rights.. correct.
[05:28] <dr_willis> G4L4CT1C4:  never used it. so no idea.
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: u right even gedit doesnt run from sudo -u
[05:29] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  try gksudo -u
[05:29] <stephen> Hello, I am having an issue with font sizing in GTK apps with openbox
[05:29] <G4L4CT1C4> dr_willis: why?
[05:29] <dr_willis> the gksudo must set up the X credentials properly. if it works ;)
[05:30] <sbattey> Hello, I am having an issue with font sizing in GTK apps with openbox
[05:30] <dr_willis> G4L4CT1C4:  why dont i use it? err.. because i dont need it?
[05:30] <sbattey> Fonts are much too large and I can't find out how to change them
[05:30] <dr_willis> bbl. got a job to do.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lol GNOME_SUDO_PASS
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Sorry, try again.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[05:30] <G4L4CT1C4> dr_willis: ok thanks
[05:30] <IPfreely> sbattey you sure your resolution is not to low
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> typed the correct password
[05:31] <sbattey> IPfreely, I am positive
[05:31] <voldyman> L3top, the solution worked. my isp dropped the internet so couldn't  thank you yesterday
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: oh this user got a startup password script maybe thats the prob
[05:31] <sbattey> IPfreely, I thought it had to do with the DPI, but the dpi settings are correct in unity. I tried setting the font in gtkrc-2.0.mine and it didn't work
[05:31] <sbattey> not all apps accepted the change
[05:32] <IPfreely> sbattey goto System settings > Appearance >
[05:32] <gogli> is it a good idea of creating creating swap area on LIVE USB ?
[05:32] <sbattey> ipfreely i am using openbox
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: for typing root pass (not user) i get this: No protocol specified
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Error: cannot open display: :0
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> seems like unity is well protected :p
[05:33] <anon> who know to surf onnline whitout ip? no body?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> anon: use proxies
[05:34] <buhman> anon: how does that make sense?
[05:34] <IPfreely> have you tried Xft.dpi: <font size here>
[05:34] <anon> proxy noo!
[05:35] <anon> proxy no!!
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: sux username firefox did the trick tnx mate!!
[05:36] <anon> i want surf in incognite
[05:36] <croz> dr willis may i PM you please?
[05:36] <IPfreely> You can not surf the net with out a TCP/IP Lookup up RFC 791
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: and no history or bookmarks show from root
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> anon: this is not an ubuntu related question
[05:37] <IPfreely> if you want to hide your IP address then use ITABLES to Masq
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !ot | anon
[05:37] <IPfreely> IPTABLES*
[05:37] <anon> vpn?
[05:37] <IPfreely> no
[05:38] <IPfreely> IPTABLES VPN only shows you in a different location but still traceable
[05:38] <Ayoo> Can someone explain this?
[05:38] <Ayoo> Error: Package: flvtool2-1.0.6-1.el6.rf.noarch (rpmforge)            Requires: ruby Error: Package: flvtool2-1.0.6-1.el6.rf.noarch (rpmforge)            Requires: /usr/bin/ruby  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem ** Found 6 pre-existing rpmdb problem(s), 'yum check' output follows: bandmin-1.6.1-5.noarch has missing requires of perl(bandmin.conf) bandmin-1.6.1-5.noarch has missing requires of perl(bmversion.pl) 
[05:38] <Ayoo> I do have ruby installed however.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> yum isnt that opensuse?
[05:39] <IPfreely> yum is RedHat distros
[05:40] <anon> what channel is the anonymous?
[05:40] <IPfreely> anon I think your in the wrong chan
[05:40] <sbattey> Anyone have any idea why gtk apps in openbox have giant fonts?
[05:40] <kiamo> dr_willis: sorry for late reply, got caught up trying something.  I cant install the nvidia drivers because I am running a live USB.  I need to get into X in order to install it lol.  It seems X was confused over onboard video and the fx5200.  I took out the fx5200 and I get further into x, however the screen gets scrambled and the system freezes
[05:41] <IPfreely> have you tried Xft.dpi: <font size here>
[05:41] <xujun10110> anonymous may not use irc
[05:41] <sbattey> IPfreely, I do not know where to set this variable
[05:41] <sbattey> IPfreely, I did try in two serparate files however they did not seem to have any effect
[05:42] <IPfreely> anonymous is everywhere we are legion
[05:42] <anon> yeah!!
[05:42] <IPfreely> ok sbattey one sec
[05:42] <anon> who know speak spanish?
[05:43] <_nedR> question of ssh-keys.. the id_rsa file is stored in ~/.ssh with permissions -rw-----------, is that safe? or is the file encrypted?
[05:43] <IPfreely> yes
[05:44] <IPfreely> wait
[05:44] <IPfreely> the .ssh should be chmod 600
[05:44] <IPfreely> and the key should be 700
[05:44] <_nedR> yes you speak spanish or yes it is safe
[05:44] <anon> hamm
[05:44] <anon> you can speak spanish?
[05:44] <croz> anyone here familiar with wraith bot?
[05:45] <_nedR> anon: no
[05:45] <hateball> !es | anon
[05:45] <anon> a ok ok
[05:45] <anon> si entiendo el ingles
[05:46] <anon> pero batallo en escribirlo
[05:46] <anon> jajaja
[05:46] <[flux]> ._.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> keep it english in here
[05:46] <anon> y pues de aqui que escribo algo pff todo se fue
[05:46] <anon> ok ok
[05:46] <anon> i know
[05:46] <anon> sorry.
[05:47] <gitesh> Hello guys, i installed Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS yesterday.
[05:47] <G4L4CT1C4> does anyone has reference step by step to build cluster webserver?
[05:47] <anon> congratulation
[05:47] <sbattey> Anyone have any idea how to set GTK fonts to be sane numbers in openbox?
[05:47] <_nedR> IPfreely, thanks for reply.. i just get confused over the whole mode numbers thing.. let me check it out
[05:47] <gitesh> today, my computer doesn't start . I am getting Error: File system(doesn't recognised)
[05:47] <gitesh> grub rescue >
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | G4L4CT1C4
[05:49] <G4L4CT1C4> ubottu: does it explain step by step? coz I've already  confused to learn it
[05:50] <[flux]> I'm trying to change permissions of a file to -rwxrwx--x using 771, but it does gives me -rwxrwx---
[05:50] <G4L4CT1C4> ubottu: thanks 4 reply :)
[05:50] <thaurwylth> Is it possible to install temporarily from a backport Thunderbird 3.0.4 on Ubu 12.04?
[05:50] <[flux]> s/does gives/gives.
[05:51] <IPfreely> flux so you want ugo User to read write execute , group read write Execute , other execute
[05:52] <[flux]> IPfreely: Yes
[05:52] <blackshirt> is it danger?
[05:52] <_nedR> ls
[05:53] <peetaur2> Anyone have a FX-8150 (or similar) on Linux and can send me output of "dmidecode -t processor" ? Mine says: "Voltage: 6.3 V" and "Max Speed: 3200 MHz" but I would expect it to say 1.25 V and max 3600.
[05:53] <[flux]> IPfreely: so, 400+200+100+40+20+10+0+0+1
[05:54] <[flux]> doesn't give me that 1 right at the end.
[05:54] <[flux]> And I can't 777 it.
[05:54] <_nedR> IPfreely, i think my file permissions are opposite.. the .ssh directory is rwx for user (so 700 i guess) and id_rsa is rw for user (so 600)..
[05:55] <IPfreely> did you try chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o=x
[05:55] <_nedR> actually this makes more sense...
[05:55] <[flux]> IPfreely: yes.
[05:55] <samir> hi everyone ,localhost is showing blank php pages
[05:55] <IPfreely> _nedR, yes I PMed you that after I hit enter on that
[05:55] <_nedR> oh sorry didn't see that
[05:55] <IPfreely> NP
[05:55] <IPfreely> glad you got it
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> _nedR: its a good thing to protect ssh properly, many abuse out there
[05:56] <_nedR> another question is this id_rsa file encrypted?
[05:56] <samir> anyone ?
[05:56] <_nedR> cause it looks like anyone using my pc can just copy it off
[05:56] <IPfreely> you can control who get ssh with the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:57] <IPfreely> _nedR, install firestarter firewall and portsentry on the portsentry set attempt to 2
[05:57] <IPfreely> it will block failed attempts and auto add them to your deny list
[05:58] <IPfreely> flux you try chmod 0771
[05:58] <IPfreely> including the umask
[05:59] <_nedR> ok thanks for reply.. am doing what you suggested...but i think what you are talking about is ssh-agent (not sure)... my question is id_rsa (which stores the private key, i think) encrypted.. because otherwise it is a bit like a password file stored in plain text
[06:00] <IPfreely> _nedR, you can change your jey just generate a new one
[06:00] <IPfreely> also a good command to know is netstat -tapnl
[06:00] <IPfreely> if someone is using your system that will show it
[06:00] <IPfreely> jey=key
[06:00] <blues_pdx> hey is there a different channel for noob questions?
[06:01] <IPfreely> your in Blue_
[06:01] <blues_pdx> ha okay...
[06:02] <blues_pdx> when i've been getting programs that aren't available in Synaptic (e.g. google app engine), I've been extracting them to home dir. But I noticed that similar programs are usually placed in etc. Should I be extracting to etc?
[06:03] <IPfreely> no
[06:03] <IPfreely> lets get some clarification
[06:03] <IPfreely> extract and installation
[06:03] <IPfreely> when you extract are you talking about archives like gx tar zip z
[06:03] <IPfreely> or installations
[06:04] <IPfreely> like dpkg -i
[06:04] <IPfreely> or ./makeready make ./config
[06:04] <LenovoG470> hi, what recourse do we have if the installation of Additional drivers for ATI bungled?
[06:06] <blues_pdx> well i guess all the ones i've put in so far haven't required an installation. i've just extracted them from zip and used the executables. (have to confess ignorance of the command line commands)
[06:07] <IPfreely> ok some programs will auto install to the correct place some will require a prefix like --prefix--/etc/
[06:08] <IPfreely> etc is a general place for programs configs and some are in usr while bin and sbin are executables and deamons
[06:08] <blues_pdx> cool thx
[06:08] <[flux]> IPfreely: I got the issue. I had patched the binary wrongly.
[06:08] <[flux]> I have stop doing that.
[06:09] <[flux]> thanks for your suggestions.
[06:09] <ZeroKewl> whe trying to connect to a server on Konverstation irc client it automatic logs me out then i have to log back in
[06:09] <IPfreely> np
[06:09] <ZeroKewl> when*
[06:09] <ZeroKewl> im on xchat right now
[06:11] <ZeroKewl> ant one know how to fix this
[06:11] <kiamo> on live USB, when KDE starts loading it appears fine, mouse moves etc, but then the screen gets completely scrambled.  and the system freezes.  can't kill X or anything.  Anyone have some ideas?
[06:12] <IPfreely> kiamo try ctrl+alt+f3
[06:14] <LenovoG470> hi guys, what should I check before hand so that I could install ATI additional drivers safely?
[06:14] <ZeroKewl> IPfreely,  could u help he
[06:14] <miss_ubuntu_> hi guys i am facing high cpu by init and dbus-daemon , can any1 guide me how to resolve it ? http://paste2.org/p/2066920
[06:16] <IPfreely> Zero sure whats the exact error is any
[06:16] <IPfreely> Miss_u that CPU is fine
[06:16] <ZeroKewl> its doesnt give an error
[06:16] <kiamo> IPfreely: no joy
[06:16] <ZeroKewl> just started doing this about 1 hr ago
[06:16] <buhman> is ubuntu's initramfs supposed to be able to handle root+/boot in mdraid+lvm? or am I required to do something special when I update-initramfs?
[06:17] <IPfreely> have you rebooted?
[06:17] <buhman> I've got grub working properly, but (grub I think) hangs on "Loading initial ramdisk.."
[06:17] <buhman> by "working properly" I mean that grub loads grub.cfg properly when grub.cfg is located in a lvm logical volume contained inside a mdraid array.
[06:17] <ZeroKewl> it try log in server with Konversation and it logs me off to the log in screen
[06:18] <buhman> the version of grub included in 12.04 appears to be a little buggy by the way, and it wasn't until I tried 2.00-beta4 and/or 2.00-release that I ended up making things work.
[06:18] <dr_willis> ZeroKewl:  you mean the Desktop is crahing back to the login screen?
[06:18] <AndrewX192> Ubuntu 12.04 isn't prompting me for my cryptsetup password at boot. What can I do to correct this?
[06:18] <buhman> that 1.99 nonsense doesn't event get to the part where it says "welcome to grub"
[06:18] <AndrewX192> (If I drop to initramfs I can get my setup to boot)
[06:18] <buhman> AndrewX192: yes, I'd like to know this too
[06:18] <ZeroKewl> dr_willis just when i try useing Konversation
[06:18] <buhman> likely the same thing you do for a cryptsetup hook you'd do for a mdraid hook
[06:19] <ZeroKewl> and yes dr_willis  it crashes desktop
[06:20] <AndrewX192> buhman: bugs!
[06:20] <buhman> in
[06:20] <nanobolic> does anyone know if there is a way to install java webplugin under wine? I have checked google and some of the forums but the information seems rather old.
[06:21] <nanobolic> java website says that I don't have java and I have installed jre under wine
[06:22] <buhman> in archlinux we have a fancy mkinitcpio script that comes with a few assorted general-purpose useful hooks that we can add/remove to the initramfs easily, just by modifying /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and adding/removing things as needed to the HOOKS= line.
[06:22] <buhman> it's all shell scripting anyway, but it works rather nicely.
[06:22] <ZeroKewl> nanobolic download java for windows xp then save it to desktop and then right click it and install with wine
[06:22] <dr_willis> nanobolic:  check the winetricks tool?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> nanobolic: java is Os related, is your purpose installing windows, then java
[06:23] <ZeroKewl> dr_willis u find any thing out about my crashing
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:sux firefox worked flawless
[06:23] <nanobolic> Zeroedout, will check out winetricks
[06:23] <nanobolic> sorry I meant dr_willis
[06:24] <ZeroKewl> lol'
[06:24] <Zeroedout> nanobolic: lol, no worries
[06:24] <nanobolic> Zeroedout, I have install java.exe under wine
[06:24] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  browsers tend to be a little... weird i find. :) X forwaarding firefox - is a very quirky thing..  good that sux worked
[06:24] <Zeroedout> uh oh it's ZeroKewl..... will i be h4X0RD? ;p
[06:25] <ZeroKewl> what Zeroedout
[06:25] <Zeroedout> wasn't zerocool the protagonist in the movie "Hackers" ?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: all firefox bookmarks and history are seperated too, real nice!
[06:26] <ZeroKewl> yeah
[06:26] <ZeroKewl> but i spell my nick diffrent
[06:26] <Zeroedout> well my joke still stands ;)
[06:27] <Sonicadvance1> Hey, I was wondering what the default username and password was for 12.10 for the server daily preinstalled image for omap4 hardware. Anyone know it?
[06:28] <myersg> how to install ajaxplorer on ubuntu
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info ajaxplorer
[06:29] <myersg> so how do I insall it?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> myersg: might wanna check official website to add repos
[06:29] <myersg> I did but they are for debian
[06:30] <myersg> and I added it, and did as it wanted me to, but when I go to it in my browser, it gives a 404 error
[06:31] <dr_jesus> no
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> myersg: Restart Apache, then open http://localhost/ajaxplorer.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> what error u getting after?
[06:31] <myersg> how do I do that?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !apache
[06:32] <Sonicadvance1> Can't seem to guess the username and password for the omap4 image provided on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/
[06:32] <LenovoG470> Hi, i wish to do a ATI additional driver installation, but fret if the installation may break my system, any advice?
[06:33] <myersg> !apache: event not found
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> myersg:http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-start-restart-stop-apache-web-server/
[06:35] <myersg> bash: !apache: event not found
[06:36] <myersg> Action 'start' failed.
[06:37] <myersg> just a min
[06:37] <myersg> I did it but its still saying, Not found
[06:37] <myersg> Not Found
[06:37] <myersg> The requested URL /ajaxplorer/ was not found on this server.
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> myersg: try a pc reboot, might restart apache
[06:38] <myersg> I got apache to restart
[06:38] <dr_willis>   myersg  what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:39] <myersg> It to the ajaxplorer
[06:39] <dr_willis> you spelt or pasted the url wrong perhaps..
[06:40] <myersg> there is no ajaxplorer in my /var or my /var/www
[06:40] <dr_willis> or are they using creative nameing with 'ajaxplorer' or is there an e missing.
[06:41] <myersg> its in /etc
[06:41] <myersg> do I need to move it?
[06:42] <dr_willis> how did you install it?
[06:42] <myersg> http://ajaxplorer.info/download/
[06:42] <myersg> I followed the debian/ubuntu instrucksions
[06:42] <dr_willis> perhaps they have some docs there on setting it up/enbleing it.
[06:42] <dr_willis>  /etc/ stuff would be  config files for it. not the  web site files
[06:43] <myersg> thats it... but its not working for me
[06:43] <myersg> ya, there boot strap files in the /etc file
[06:44] <dr_willis> could be a config file has itg disabled also. untill you edit the config and enable it.
[06:45] <myersg> how can I do it this way? http://ajaxplorer.info/documentation/administration/4-step-install/
[06:48] <dr_willis> myersg:  do it that way? follow their directions. get the archive. put it in the right place under your www dirs
[06:48] <myersg> I downloaded it, and copied it to the /var/www file, but its giveing a problem type page
[06:49] <myersg> http://pastebin.com/mPY7qj36
[06:49] <myersg> thats what its saying to me
[06:49] <dr_willis> the ddirections say be sure to put it in the data dir i think.
[06:50] <LenovoG470> Hi, what checks do I need to do a fail-safe installation of the ATi drivers in additional drivers
[06:51] <myersg> were is that?
[06:51] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  no such thing that ive ever heaard of.. if they fail you  remove them i guess
[06:51] <dr_willis> myersg:  that url of instructions step #2. sas be sure the data dir is writeable.....
[06:51] <myersg> how do I make it writeable
[06:52] <dr_willis> !permissions  | myersg
[06:52] <LenovoG470> @dr_willis, can you give me the CLI commands to do so, if it breaks,  -black screen
[06:53] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  sudo apt-get remove thepackagename
[06:53] <myersg> ok, I think it is writeable
[06:53] <dr_willis> after you boot to text mode, or the recovery console. or via the alt-ctrl-f1 console
[06:54] <LenovoG470> dr_willis: but the package is in additional drivers in Ubuntu Software Center, what name 1 must type
[06:54] <kiennd> anybody help me? I use ubuntu 10.04, yesterday I just use email, web, openoffice it work very good but this morning when start it have some problem: I cann't shutdown from menu but I can shutdown by command line (and some orther problem)
[06:54] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  no idea.  i dont use ati. id bet it has fglrx in its name somewhere
[06:55] <dr_willis> apt-cache search fglrx
[06:57] <LenovoG470> dr_willis: there are a few files, that the AMD website said I must have, Can you help me to detect them using the CLI? Thanks
[06:57] <icewalker> which version should i install on dell e6420? ubuntu 32bit or 64bit
[06:57] <icewalker> 12.04
[06:58] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  all ive ever needed to do was use the activate/deactivate   option on the addational-drivers tool.
[06:58] <dr_willis> icewalker:  i always  try to use 64bit os on 64bit hardware
[07:00] <LenovoG470> dr_willis: I understand that, but if the installation fails and I am left with a broken X, I can not reach the drivers tools, then. Still noobs here
[07:00] <Gyro54> hi!
[07:00] <myersg> I got it working..
[07:00] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  jockey-text is the cli tool that does the same job.
[07:01] <icewalker> google shows up some issue with 64bit on e6420, so i wonder if i should install the 32bits instead.
[07:01] <Claytronicz> OMG! THERE ARE 1500 USERS?
[07:01] <dr_willis> you are worried about it failing.. when you have no idea if it will fail or not... try it and see i guess
[07:01] <dr_willis> Claytronicz:  its a slow day actually,.
[07:02] <dr_willis> icewalker:  how old are the issues. ;)  they may no longer be issues
[07:02] <Claytronicz> Is #ubuntu THE most populous channel on the entire Internet? Also, how do you manage to have so many? In many places, there's a "capacity" of 100 or so.
[07:02] <Gyro54> Should we use Virtualbox from the repository? I have installed 4.1.12 but there are several newer versions available
[07:02] <Claytronicz> If here isn't the most populous, what is the most populace chatroom / channel you have EVER been in? Where would it be?
[07:03] <buhman> Claytronicz: 1) 1500 lurkers 2) this channel sucks 3) notice all of the "FloodBots"
[07:03] <dr_willis> Claytronicz:  irc servers could set limits i guess.. never noticed any here.
[07:03] <dr_willis> Claytronicz:  on release day ive seen 3000+ in here. do you have an actual ubuntu suopport issue?
[07:03] <Claytronicz> i'll take to offtopic then
[07:03] <icewalker> i see. any need to tweak or recompile the kernel for the e6420 video?
[07:03] <LenovoG470> dr_willis: pardon, but I dun have that jockey-text in my USC, kindly point the way, many thanks
[07:04] <buhman> is ubuntu's initramfs supposed to be able to handle root+/boot in mdraid+lvm? or am I required to do something special when I update-initramfs?
[07:04] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  open a terminal type 'jockey-text'  and see if its there
[07:04] <buhman> I've got grub working properly, but (grub I think) hangs on "Loading initial ramdisk.."
[07:04] <buhman> by "working properly" I mean that grub loads grub.cfg properly when grub.cfg is located in a lvm logical volume contained inside a mdraid array.
[07:04] <buhman> the version of grub included in 12.04 appears to be a little buggy by the way, and it wasn't until I tried 2.00-beta4 and/or 2.00-release that I ended up making things work.
[07:05] <buhman> that 1.99 nonsense doesn't even get to the part where it says "welcome to grub"
[07:05] <buhman> in archlinux we have a fancy mkinitcpio script that comes with a few assorted general-purpose useful hooks that we can add/remove to the initramfs easily, just by modifying /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and adding/removing things as needed to the HOOKS= line; is there some similar mechanism in ubuntu?
[07:06] <LenovoG470> dr_willis: done that and  it merely searches for drivers and ends with no response displayed
[07:06] <levnikolaevic> hi guys, this morning evolution stops to ask me for password and, starting, says only "Could not connect to pop3.auser.it: Connection refused"
[07:06] <krr> Hello! Any experience with HP PROBOOK 4530s (amd)   and Ubuntu ?
[07:06] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  so you have th4e tool. does the addational-drivers tool even suggest any fglrx drivers?
[07:06] <buhman> I'm tempted to try hacking together an arch kernel/initramfs/init and tossing an ubuntu userland on top of that and calling it good (one of the requirements is that this be an "ubuntu 12.04 installation" for some insane reason)
[07:07] <levnikolaevic> is there a way to tell evolution the password manually?
[07:07] <buhman> levnikolaevic: you could likely remove the password from your account configuration
[07:08] <levnikolaevic> i can't
[07:08] <Gyro54> levnikolaevic: Check your network connection
[07:08] <Gyro54> Should we use Virtualbox from the repository? I have installed 4.1.12 but there are several newer versions available
[07:09] <dr_willis> Gyro54:  ive used the one from the vbox homepage befor
[07:09] <nomad209> [/win next
[07:09] <nomad209> sorry
[07:10] <LenovoG470> dr_willis, the CLI jockey-tool gave no response, but in the USC the drivers are there - post release and the other current [non-post release]
[07:11] <buhman> perhaps I should make myself more clear: 1) the ubuntu installer scripts are bloated, nonsensical, and useless braindead crap 2) as a result I've found it simpler to just use deboostrap to create my root filesystem 3) I have done this 4) the root filesystem and /boot partition are in separate logical volumes in the same vg which is contained in a single pv which happens to be a mdraid array.
[07:11] <LenovoG470> dr_willis, I dun how to search for the fglrx drives in the CLI
[07:11] <dr_willis> apt-cache search fglrx
[07:11] <Gyro54> dr_willis: Do I remove the normal 4.1.12 and install the 4.1.18 or is there an upgrade I should use?
[07:12] <dr_willis> Gyro54:  may be safest to remove what you have.
[07:12] <nomad209> buhman: maybe try the minimal or server iso? add what you need?
[07:12] <buhman> the biggest hurdle with this is making grub behave. I've got things mostly working, where grub clearly loads grub.cfg from /boot in mdraid (because I get to the boot menu where I can interactively edit grub.cfg if I so desire), but once grub loads the initramfs from /boot, nothing interesting happens
[07:12] <buhman> the kernel is never executed
[07:13] <buhman> nomad209: debootstrap is even more minimalist than using one of those silly installation images; I literally download *only* the packages I selected.
[07:13] <neodragon> is there another ubuntu channel that is for maybe, question about ubuntu that are not necessarily support questions?
[07:13] <buhman> (and debootstrap itself of course)
[07:14] <nomad209> buhman: indeed
[07:14] <kiennd> anybody help me? I use ubuntu 10.04, yesterday I just use email, web, openoffice it work very good but this morning when start it have some problem: I cann't shutdown from menu but I can shutdown by command line (and some orther problems)
[07:14] <DJones> neodragon: If its general, you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <dr_willis> !ot
[07:15] <neodragon> Thanks DJones
[07:15] <buhman> so the question is: is ubuntu's update-initramfs script smart enough to automagically understand that it needs to assemble the raid array BEFORE it has any hope of getting to the root filesystem? and why is grub hanging on me at the point right before the kernel would be loaded/executed?
[07:15] <Gyro54> dr_willis: Thanks
[07:16] <buhman> if I could get to the point where I get dropped to an emergency shell with nothing but the initramfs to help me, I could probably work through that.
[07:16] <buhman> well, rather, before the kernel actually *is* executed (supposedly it was already read from disk)
[07:18] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi
[07:18] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I try to use remote desktop
[07:18] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> but when I try to input user keyword
[07:20] <zjhui> hi , i have follow the wiki install the xen-hypervisor-amd64, but i cann't find /etc/default/xen , did this file has removed? my xen version : 4.1 , Host system: ubuntu 11.10 32bit
[07:20] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Unlock Keyring Dialog pops up
[07:20] <zjhui> How did that happen ?
[07:21] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> it requires password, but my current password doesn't work.
[07:22] <dr_willis>  keyring password can be differnt then your login password
[07:22] <dr_willis> you can set the keyring to use a empty password also
[07:26] <icewalker> is ubuntu 12.04 x64 default video driver optimizes for dell e6420 or do i need to install bumblebee?
[07:27] <iceroot> icewalker: is that using nvidia ion?
[07:28] <iceroot> icewalker: the default drivers and also the nonfree driver ubuntu is offering for nvidia ion is not the best solution, so bumblebee is the way to go
[07:29] <dr_willis> the bumblebee/optimus stuff is still verymuch a work in progress for some setups i hear.
[07:29] <iceroot> dr_willis: yes
[07:30] <iceroot> dr_willis: but its offering options the non-free nvidia driver cant handle correctly
[07:30] <iceroot> dr_willis: like linus said some days before..... nvidia *****
[07:30] <icewalker> i tried to install bumblebee but can seem to get it to work following instructions i found on google. any thoughts? where can i get a working installation instructions?
[07:31] <iceroot> icewalker: there is a bubmlebee ppa, just enable that ppa and install the bumblebee package after that restart x (or the complete system)
[07:31] <icewalker> so i end up restoring back to  the default driver
[07:32] <icewalker> i did try that
[07:32] <bright> hello i have asus notebook and ubuntu 10.10 installed on it. and i can't make my touchpad to work can anyone help?
[07:32] <iceroot> bright: 10.10 is no longer supported
[07:32] <iceroot> !eol | bright
[07:33] <bright> but i don't want this fancy looking new ubuntu i don't like it (
[07:33] <compdoc> bright, you get used to it
[07:33] <iceroot> bright: and 10.10 is out of support
[07:33] <icewalker> like this instructions - http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2687901
[07:33] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> dr_willis, I have no idea when I set this password for keyring
[07:33] <dr_willis> gnome2 is basically dead. the fallback modes are there.. but those alsoo may get phased out in the next year or so
[07:34] <dr_willis> jimmy_lo_chien_f:  i recall some file you can delete that resets the keyring totally. then when it asks you just hit enter and it warns and uses no password
[07:35] <Pupuser> bright: did u try Puppy Linux?
[07:35] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> dr_willis, I have searched by google, the file should be ~/.gnome2/login.keyring
[07:35] <dr_willis> !keyring
[07:35] <bright> Pupudrt nopr is it good
[07:35] <bright> ?
[07:35] <iceroot> bright: lubuntu is one way to have a system without fancy guis
[07:35] <iceroot> bright: the other is xubuntu
[07:35] <dr_willis> Puppy Linux is not Ubuntu :) its also a very very weird linux in many ways
[07:35] <compdoc> bright, boot the Live CD of whatever version of Ubuntu you do like, and see if it's fixed. I think 11.04 still used the old Gnome desktop
[07:35] <dr_willis> Lubuntu and xubuntu are nice.
[07:36] <iceroot> bright: you can just install a new desktop and dont have to reinstall the whole system
[07:36] <iceroot> but even unity is not worst at all, i am using it myself and i like it
[07:36] <dr_willis> i have my Unity set up nicely with lens andd quicklists and extras that i like.
[07:37] <iceroot> see, even dr_willis is using unity :)
[07:37] <dr_willis> the HUD and Lens are handy
[07:37] <bright> i know that archlinux is good one
[07:37] <bright> also
[07:37] <iceroot> bright: and offtopic here
[07:37] <bright> okay :D
[07:38] <gitesh> Hey, mates. Where do i learn ubuntu? I don't know, what is a shell? & what is a kernel ?
[07:38] <dr_willis> !manual
[07:38] <iceroot> gitesh: you dont need to know what a shell or kernel is to use ubuntu
[07:39] <hateball> gitesh: Learn by using it. :)
[07:39] <dr_willis> !shell
[07:39] <iceroot> gitesh: like hateball said, just use the system, you dont need any special knowledge
[07:39] <gitesh> yes, hateball. that's where i started.
[07:40] <iceroot> gitesh: but of course if you are insterested in such stuff we will help you
[07:40] <gitesh> ok, thanks. iceroot
[07:40] <hateball> gitesh: In my opinion, the best way to learn is to have an actual problem to solve. Not just reading about potential solutions for things that do not concern you.
[07:41]  * dr_willis reads about everything, so he knows where to go back to look when he has an actual problem
[07:41] <dr_willis> 'task focus' vs 'tool focused'
[07:42] <gitesh> ok, hateball
[07:43] <gogli> dr_willis: i'm creating swap area on my LIVE USB  pendrive (persistence) .I use gparted and make another parition ext2 for swap and name it as linux-swap and after that gksu gedit /etc/fstab and write its UUID there .after that to enable swap i use "sudo swapon --all OR  "  and get a error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077723/
[07:43] <dr_willis> gogli:  a swap partition uses a filesysgtm of the type 'swap' not ext2/3/4
[07:44] <dr_willis> then you format it with the mkswp (i think) command, or gparted can format it as swap.
[07:44] <gogli> gogli : then what file system should it be
[07:44] <d1gital__> how do I set the resolution in use on my VTs? just pass a VGA mode from the bootloader?  Is there a way to autodetect?
[07:44] <dr_willis> filesystem type IS 'swap'
[07:45]  * dr_willis looks at the factoid page
[07:46] <dr_willis> !swap
[07:48] <gRAVIty_> struggling with ethernet problem for the past 12 days. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077338/ Please take a look
[07:48] <gRAVIty_> anybody around?
[07:49] <gogli> dr_willis: but in file SYtsem of gparted following are given :
[07:49] <gogli> ext2/3/4 fat 16/32 jfs ntfs xfs unformatted reiserfs btrfs
[07:49] <Stava> How can I tell the resolution of a .swf movie?
[07:49] <dr_willis> 5. In the free space that has now been created, choose new, type linux-swap and
[07:49] <dr_willis> you can name the partition "swap" if you like
[07:49] <dr_willis> the type is 'linux-swap'
[07:49] <gRAVIty_> hmmm
[07:49] <dr_willis> im not on a linux box so cant run gpartd to see what it says
[07:50] <iceroot> Stava: maybe with "file foo.swf"
[07:50] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: can you look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077338/  ethernet does not work
[07:50] <iceroot> gogli: gparted is asking about the mountpoint e.g. / /home and so on and one entry is "swap"
[07:51] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, no ip address is being assigned. Too bad you have such a fast card, and such a slow lan
[07:51] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: what does that mean? I have a dual boot. it works perfectly fine in windows 7
[07:52] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, it shows its connecting at 100, instead of 1000
[07:53] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: let me check
[07:53] <bruce24> Hey guys. I'm trying to setup a Certificate Authority (CA). This is just for learning purposes, nothing more. I want to sign someones Certificate Signing Request (CSR) with my private key and when I try I get and error saying "Expecting: TRUSTED CERTIFICATE". How do I go about getting my private key trusted?
[07:54] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: by the way it is sporadic. it works once ina while and it does not work a lot of times
[07:54] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, open the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules        does it show your cards more than once?
[07:55] <compdoc> do you have both wired and wireless?
[07:55] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I only have wired net. no wireless
[07:55] <compdoc> ok
[07:55] <gRAVIty_> I dont even have a router actually. It is a direct cable
[07:56] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I am on windows now. if you give me a couple of minutes. I will be able to check and get back to you. is there anything else I should be checking?
[07:57] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, well, also, /etc/network/interfaces
[07:57] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I will just get the output and let you know. the commond is  cat filename right?
[07:57] <compdoc> sure, thats works
[07:58] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: thanks. see in 3 minutes
[07:58] <compdoc> k
[08:00] <croz> Does anyone know of any program that dims the screen (or perhaps shades it) so that my eyes aren't looking at very bright lighted backscreen? I tried redshifter and it's good, but still the screen is too bright.
[08:01] <{g}> Hello from Germany! Trying Ubuntu 12.. how do you install Skype these days?
[08:01] <pkrishen> Hey, I'm on a fresh CentOS 6.2 with no prior experience. How can I setup a Torrent client?
[08:02] <croz> {g}: sudo apt-get install skype
[08:02] <{g}> croz: "unable to locate package skype"
[08:03] <{g}> pkrishen: what is centos?
[08:04] <compdoc> {g}, centos is a server version of linux
[08:04] <{g}> compdoc: how is it related to ubuntu?
[08:04] <compdoc> its not
[08:05] <{g}> ok
[08:05] <DJones> pkrishen: This channel is just for ubuntu support, you'll need to find the centos channel to ask
[08:05] <compdoc> its very different, but its a great OS
[08:05] <Dayofswords> how would i pipe stdout to a file and stderr to /dev/null? I have    command 1> ~/file.txt 2> /dev/null      I think I'm very wrong though
[08:05] <gogli> when i type free
[08:05] <gogli> Swap:      2594812          0    2594812
[08:05] <pkrishen> compdoc: thanks very much. i'll check it out.
[08:05] <gogli> is my swap working now ?
[08:06] <{g}> gogli: probably
[08:07] <{g}> gogli: why are you asking?
[08:07] <gogli> {g}  : i just created swap on live USB
[08:07] <{g}> gogli: "swapon -s" will show you your active swap partitions.
[08:07] <gogli> [g} : how to use for hibernation
[08:08] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077744/
[08:08] <{g}> gogli: what do you mean?
[08:08] <gogli> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[08:08] <gogli> /dev/sdb2                               partition	2594812	0	-1
[08:09] <{g}> gogli: so you have an active swap partition in sdb2.
[08:09] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, 70-persistent-net.rules  shows two network cards. Sometimes, when booting, one or the other can be ready first and screw things up
[08:09] <gogli> Process to Increase Size of Swap Partition and use it for Hibernation:1    Creating the swap partition 2.  Activating the swap partition 3.    Making the new swap partition work for hibernate (optional)
[08:09] <Allex944> hi, is it okey this time to use btrf as default fs?
[08:09] <dr_willis> i dont think you can hibernate a live-usb
[08:10] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: what is the fix?
[08:10] <dr_willis> at least i would be suprised if you could.
[08:10] <{g}> gogli: are you talking to me?
[08:10] <gogli> what is hibernate dr_willis  , [g} ?
[08:10] <impaktor> Hi! Is there a root user in Ubuntu these days?
[08:10] <gogli> {g} : yup !
[08:11] <dr_willis> !hibernate
[08:11] <dr_willis> !suspend
[08:11] <SwedeMike> impaktor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:11] <impaktor> !pm-suspend
[08:11] <Dayofswords> impaktor: yeah, just has no password, thus can't log into.
[08:11] <gogli> ?
[08:12] <gogli> dr_willis: what is the use of swap in term of hibernate ?
[08:12] <dr_willis> it saves the hibernated  system to the swap partition
[08:12] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, I think if you modify 70-persistent-net.rules slightly, the system wont change it again untill you add another nic. And you could assign a static ip in 'interfaces'. Netowrk manager seems to be controlling the card at the moment
[08:12] <{g}> gogli: ok. because if you dont prefix your msgs with my name i will not notice.
[08:13] <compdoc> not that thats a bad thing
[08:13] <impaktor> Dayofswords: I'm helping a ubuntu user move his home to a separate partition, so I can't have him do this as root? I don't think he should be logged in as himself when he moves his home folder.
[08:13] <gogli> {g} : sorry !
[08:13] <{g}> gogli: swap is not related to hibernation.
[08:13] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I cannot use a static IP. It is a dynamic ip without a router
[08:13] <gRAVIty_> it assigns an IP everytime it starts
[08:13] <dr_willis> impaktor:   theres the recovery/rescue console.  that can be used. or a live cd
[08:13] <gogli> {g}  : is their  any way to test my swap
[08:13] <Dayofswords> impaktor:  you can still become root with  sudo su
[08:13] <impaktor> dr_willis: I though suspend saved to swap, hibernate to harddrive.
[08:13] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, oh, the ISP assigns the IP?
[08:14] <dr_willis> gogli:  if free shows swap used.. then its working
[08:14] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: yes
[08:14] <Giovanni-MS> Hi. I'm trying to add an additional logical volume with a postinst in debian-installer. This causes the installer to hang. With debug I see "Resuming VolGroup00-test1lv (252:6) Who can help please?
[08:14] <{g}> gogli: did you google "ubuntu live usb hibernate" i think there is a setting for this these days.
[08:14] <dr_willis> impaktor:  swap is on the swap parittion on the hard drive.
[08:14] <impaktor> Dayofswords: Oh, that's excellent.
[08:14] <{g}> gogli: i think you can be pretty sure your swap works. but i have the feeling you misunderstand what swap is for.
[08:14] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: It is a wirless wired net. As in I have a tower on top of my house. Everytime I switch on my internet i have to wait for 60 seconds to get the IP assigned and then use my  net
[08:14] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, you have a modem?
[08:15] <compdoc> yeah
[08:15] <gogli> [g]  : i read the ubuntu documentation , hibernate don't work for ubuntu   12.04 persistence usb
[08:15] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: no I dont think it is a modme. It is RJ-45 ODU connecter
[08:15] <compdoc> its a device
[08:16] <{g}> gogli: hmm.. then i dont know. depending on what you are using it for, you could also install ubuntu on your usb stick. i did that once before.
[08:16] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, you ever try turning the device off then on after switching OSes?
[08:17] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: no. i directly rebot for the other OS
[08:17] <dr_willis> gogli:  i tend to just do full/normal installs to my flash drives these days. i rarely use the live-usb setup any more
[08:17] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: When I start it fresh. It sometimes works and sometimes does not work. Windows 7 works 100% of the time
[08:18] <gogli> [g] ; well, i'm using ubuntu on my pendrive and make another partion as linux-swap
[08:18] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I start on linux if it does not work I switch to windows 7 :(
[08:18] <Aritz> anyone familir with KURT DSKI intrumentation points and LXR
[08:18] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, Ubuntu should have drivers needed for that card. What version of Ubuntu?
[08:18] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: ubuntu 12.04
[08:18] <compdoc> thats a good choice
[08:19] <gRAVIty_> compdoc:I actually dont really understand the outputs. are u saying this laptop does not have the necessary driverS?
[08:20] <compdoc> it should have the drivers Built in. And Ubuntu sess have two network cards: a wired and a wireless card
[08:20] <blackmoon> hi, in which file ubuntu write the locked deb packages?
[08:20] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[08:20] <Dayofswords> how would I pipe stdout to a file and stderr to /dev/null? I have    command 1> ~/file.txt 2> /dev/null      I think I'm very wrong though, I suck at bash.
[08:20] <confusius> hi, is there anyway I can see with do-release-upgrade why it wants to install new packages like openal, webkit, gtk2-engines, etc?
[08:20] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I havent even swithced on the wifi. why does it show the wireless carD?
[08:20] <{g}> gogli: i will not notice your messages if you prefix them with [g]. Only {g} works.
[08:21] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, 70-persistent-net.rules  shows two network cards.
[08:21] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I wont use the wireless at all. Is there a way to temporarily disable the wireless that the ethernet works smoothly?
[08:21] <blackmoon> dr_willis: i mean packages with locked version
[08:21] <{g}> gogli: so you have/want a live-test-version on your pen drive or an installed version?
[08:21] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: exactly. I dont understand why the wifi is switching on. The manual wifi button is off
[08:21] <gogli> [g} : usb is working fine , but still their is a problem
[08:21] <dr_willis> blackmoon:  i think the term is 'pinned' or 'held'
[08:22] <{g}> gogli: [g} also dont work :)
[08:22] <gogli> [g] : when i run totem , it  stuck
[08:22] <pozic> I restarted Ubuntu and all I get is a black screen after a visible boot sequence using fglrx.
[08:22] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, try deleting the entry in 70-persistent-net.rules for the wireless. maybe it was switched on once
[08:22] <dr_willis> !nomodeset  | pozic
[08:22] <pozic> dr_willis: this didn't happen before.
[08:22] <gogli> [g] : swap area is working
[08:23] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: gedit the same file and delete it right? thats it i guess?
[08:23] <dr_willis> pozic:  no idea. i have one machine with an old ati card.. so i rarely mess with ati
[08:23] <compdoc> yes, but you need sudo
[08:23] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: delete wlan ya will try that and get back to u
[08:23] <compdoc> ok
[08:23] <gogli> [g] : how can i allow a allpication to use more swap
[08:23] <pozic> dr_willis: I know people who say the same thing about nvidia.
[08:23] <gRAVIty_> see you in 3 minutes
[08:24] <blackmoon> dr_willis: ah ok, by the way, do you know in which file ubuntu held the packages?
[08:24] <MagePsycho> patch -p1 file.patch isnot working
[08:24] <MagePsycho> can't find file to patch at input line 5Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?The text leading up to this was:
[08:24] <dr_willis> blackmoon:  nope. i rarely have to get into the apt system that deeply
[08:24] <gogli> {g} : how can i allow  application to use more swap area than other applications
[08:24] <pozic> dr_willis: any idea how I can get it to boot without fglrx?
[08:24] <{g}> gogli: why would you want to do that?
[08:24] <dr_willis> gogli:  the kernel handles swap as needed. you dont set specific apps to use more or less swap
[08:24] <blackmoon> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[08:25] <pozic> dr_willis: remotely via ssh doing anything doesn't work.
[08:25] <pozic> dr_willis: ping is impossible.
[08:25] <dr_willis> pozic:  the 'text' option gets to the text console.  I cant imagine why ssh wouldent be working
[08:25] <gogli> {g}  : but i want my toem to use more swap
[08:25] <pozic> dr_willis: I can try single-user mode to see whether it does anything.
[08:25] <dr_willis> !text
[08:25] <{g}> gogli: why?
[08:25] <dr_willis> gogli:  thats not how linux works.
[08:26] <gogli> {g}  : because many times it stuck and goes gray
[08:26] <MagePsycho> patch -p1 file.patch isnot working guys
[08:26] <dr_willis> pozic:  single user, or text option , or recovery = shold get you to a console.
[08:26] <pozic> dr_willis: recovery = shold?
[08:26] <{g}> gogli: applications do not use swap. they use memory. the operating system decides where to store that memory. in ram or on disk. the latter is called swap.
[08:27] <dr_willis> should
[08:28] <gogli> {g} :  i can open 15 application at a time and may be more than that but i want my totem work fine as other application do
[08:28] <gogli> {g} " thanks for correcting my definition of swap : )
[08:28] <weiyang> the root home dir is alway /root ?
[08:28] <weiyang> nomatter which distro?
[08:29] <dr_willis> weiyang:  yes.
[08:29] <dr_willis> weiyang:  ive never seen it differant
[08:29] <{g}> gogli: well, you dont know why totem goes gray, right? couldnt you use some other mediaplayer? what kind of media do you play?
[08:29] <weiyang> dr_willis, thanks :)
[08:29] <dr_willis> you could move it somewhere else... but never seen that done
[08:29] <gogli> {g}: .flv and .avi
[08:30] <{g}> gogli: try vlc. everybody says its better then totem. including me.
[08:30] <gogli> {g}: i prefer to use totem than others . I love totem . Can you tell me a mplayer ?
[08:31] <gogli> {g}:  ok ! i'll try : )
[08:31] <dr_willis> a live usb setup is going to bee slower in many ways then a normal install.
[08:31] <gogli> {g} : i want a encoder/decoder also who convert my video to audio
[08:32] <dr_willis> !info arista | gogli
[08:32] <{g}> gogli: ffmpeg rocks.
[08:32] <confusius> gogli: and how do you expect video to become audio?
[08:32] <{g}> gogli: also mplayer can do some encoding i think.
[08:32] <confusius> gogli: some kind of morse code which pixel is what color? :)
[08:32] <gogli> confusius: i just want to filter audio from video  : )
[08:33] <{g}> gogli: ffmpeg -i moviet.flv -f mp3 sound.mp3
[08:33] <{g}> gogli: ^ will convert a flash movie to an mp3.
[08:33] <gogli> {g}: ok ! i'll go with ffmpeg
[08:34] <confusius> nobody on do-release-upgrade? Running it on a server (11.10) and it installs nearly 300 new packages amongst openal, webkit, etc. Since I don't browse, render, use 3D stuff, play games, why does it install that stuff?
[08:34] <gogli> {g} : can i also convert into .ogg format
[08:34] <d1gital> My console resolution looked fine with the nouveau drivers, but now that I'm running nvidia, the resolution's too low (except when running X).  How can I configure the resolution used outside of X?
[08:35] <gogli> {g}:  thanks for helping me: )  .You rocks MAN !
[08:35] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> !keyring
[08:35] <confusius> d1gital: afaik you don't, kms is not supported on nvidia's drivers
[08:35] <gaelfx> after I installed lubuntu-desktop, when I log in to a normal ubuntu session (Unity), I have 2 bluetooth icons in my panel, how can I remove one of them?
[08:35] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: No luck did not work
[08:35] <{g}> gogli: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ffmpeg+ogg
[08:35] <dr_willis> d1gital via the fframebuffer settings  of the console is using the nvidiafb
[08:35] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> !manual
[08:35] <arulmozhi> > here is my .emacs http://pastebin.com/Ud8jtkU4 wats wrong with it. I can't load tango-dark theme. even if i load the background remains the same
[08:36] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, once you delete that entry, you have to reboot. does it recreate the entry after that?
[08:36] <dr_willis> gaelfx:  theres most likely 2 auto starting tools  (.desktop) files in the system autostart directory.  im not sure of the exact path.
[08:36] <{g}> gogli: your welcome
[08:36] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: Yes when I rebooted  the entry was recreated
[08:37] <d1gital> dr_willis: how do I get at the framebuffer settings?
[08:37] <gaelfx> dr_willis: ok, I'll look into, thanks for the clue
[08:37] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I deleted it again and tried connecting. it did not work. I did not try rebooting it the third time. Since it says it creates on the fly
[08:37] <dr_willis> !famebuffer
[08:37] <dr_willis> !framebuffer
[08:37] <d1gital> thanks
[08:37] <chu> dr_willis: Thank you!!
[08:38] <dr_willis> d1gital i tend to just turn framebuffers off totally. ;) not used them in ages
[08:38] <dr_willis> that factoid may be out of date also. You just dont see the FB used much these days
[08:38] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> dr_willis,  you typed this : * dr_willis reads about everything, so he knows where to go back to look when he has an actual problem
[08:39] <dr_willis> jimmy_lo_chien_f:  and im getting so old.. i have a hard time  rembering.
[08:39] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, when the system doesnt work, its just not gaining an IP address?
[08:39] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: Yes when the net does not work it does not gain an IP address
[08:39] <gRAVIty_> but windows gets Ip address when I reboot  and change OS
[08:40] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, Im not sure how to force it. Maybe you should ask your ISP tech support and see if they have a solution
[08:40] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: they dont know linux :(
[08:41] <compdoc> yeah, thats not surprising
[08:41] <gRAVIty_> LOL :)
[08:41] <gRAVIty_> all they ask is if it is working in windows 7
[08:41] <dr_willis> compdoc:  wonder if he got a router.. it it would jusst alwyas be on with an ip.. so rebooting wouldent matter.
[08:42] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, open the network manager gui - thats how your system is set to use networking. Maybe a settig in there?
[08:42] <pozic> Why does Ubuntu always lag with packaging AMD graphics drivers?
[08:42] <compdoc> gRAVIty_,  dr_willis has a good point
[08:42] <pozic> Packaging could be done automatically.
[08:42] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: i don thave a router
[08:43] <compdoc> they cost about $30
[08:43] <dr_willis> pozic:  because it ahs a 6 month  release cycle. so even with a relase that just came out today.. its using stuff that was tested and setup from last month.. anything that comes out after release.. will wait till the next release
[08:43] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: hmm. i dont think it supports a router. if I try to get the DNS. it just gives a text output
[08:43] <dr_willis> pozic:  theres some entry in the addational-drivers tool for post-release versions
[08:44] <ScheerI> Hello, Dear Community! I would like to make a private cloud with precise pangoline.  I would like to use XEN as virtualization hypervisor. Can someone help, how can find knowledge base? Where can I find howto's? Thx
[08:44] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: THey are using this to make sure we dont connect more than on computer. Is there any command to find out if I can use a router?
[08:44] <pozic> dr_willis: but the shipped version of the AMD drivers are ... utter crap.
[08:45] <dr_willis> pozic:  they were what they tested when the version was released...   theres always the post-release version. or PPA's
[08:45] <pozic> dr_willis: can you tell me how to install the latest version via the command line?
[08:45] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, in the past, they used to read the MAC address of the network card before assigning an ip address. Most routers let you set the MAC address to the same as your nic
[08:45] <pozic> dr_willis: that is, 12.6
[08:45] <aaas> how does one run the 'user accounts' app as root?
[08:45] <pozic> dr_willis: I have no use for GUI instructions... because there is no GUI.
[08:45] <dr_willis> pozic:  no idea what teh package name is for the post-release version.
[08:46] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: So you think a router will solve the problem?
[08:46] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  with a router.. the modem/isp will never see you reboot.. the router will get the ip and info and be always on.
[08:46] <ScheerI> anyone? pls
[08:46] <gaelfx> I've never had success installing the post-release updates version of fglrx, but iirc, they are still both the same version anyhow
[08:47] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, its the best way to go. Maybe you could buy a router at an office suply store and se if they will refund if i doesnt work for you
[08:47] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: That sounds cool. Only when I restart the router will teh address gets changed right?
[08:47] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  yep.  and my rrouter rarely restarts.. :)
[08:47] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis and compdoc: Does that also mean that I can have more than one computer connected ot the router
[08:47] <compdoc> yes, if it works
[08:47] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:   i got like 10 devices going to my router
[08:47] <ScheerI> bye
[08:48] <gaelfx> !info fglrx-updates
[08:48] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: ohh cool!
[08:48] <pozic> compdoc: are you sure there is such a guarantee?
[08:48] <pozic> compdoc: I don't think there is.
[08:48] <compdoc> guarantee of what?
[08:48] <gaelfx> !info fglrx
[08:48] <gRAVIty_> compdoc and dr_willis: Is there  a resource of setting up the router?
[08:48] <pozic> compdoc: of a static IP if you just leave your router running.
[08:48] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  the routers docs....
[08:49] <pozic> compdoc: they have no contractual obligation to do that.
[08:49] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  i just plug all mine in... and power up..
[08:49] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: Thanks. LOL. that would be cool :) I have an old DSL modlem cum router. idont think i can use that for this
[08:49] <dr_willis> i splurged and got a nice cisco router for my last one. It has some nice features.
[08:49] <compdoc> pozic, no one has mentioned a static ip for the router. they can switch ips as required
[08:50] <pozic> compdoc: ok, sorry, then what was the problem?
[08:50] <compdoc> heh - scroll back and read
[08:51] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis, compdoc: thanks for your time :)
[08:51] <countley> a good pdf reader please dont ay xpdf its rubbish
[08:51] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, good luck
[08:51] <gRAVIty_> pozic: If you have to take a dig at the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015860
[08:51] <compdoc> gRAVIty_, by the way
[08:51] <gRAVIty_> go on
[08:51] <compdoc> google ppl using your ISP and the use of routers
[08:51] <compdoc> maybe you'll find suggestions
[08:52] <compdoc> in forums
[08:52] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: Thats what I did first. I am in India and this is a new ISP. 2Mbps here is a luxury :)
[08:52] <gaelfx> dr_willis: I believe I found the correct autostart folder, but there are actually several bluetooth related items in it, two of which are actually applets, one of the is just bluetooth applet, the other is bluetooth applet unity, do you think if I remove the non-unity one it should be ok?
[08:52] <compdoc> ahh
[08:52] <pozic> countley: you could try some of the Windows PDF clients.
[08:52] <pozic> countley: they run via wine.
[08:52] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: I was in US never saw an Internet under 20Mbps :P
[08:53] <compdoc> Mines about that speed. Im in Denver
[08:53] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: hehe there you go :)
[08:53] <fizyplankton> my internet is 1.5 mbps
[08:53] <gaelfx> gRAVIty_: come to China, you'll see all kinds of crap you wish you never saw
[08:53] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: u have the same nick on the forums?
[08:54] <compdoc> well, depends on which forums
[08:54] <gRAVIty_> gaelfx: lol. Not so sure. China is better with hardware compared to Indi
[08:54] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <dr_willis> gaelfx:  should be. make vackups ;)
[08:54] <countley> pozic so can i use adobe reader
[08:54] <taher> hi there
[08:54] <compdoc> I dont use Ubuntu forums much. But I am on the mailing list for Ubuntu general support
[08:54] <gaelfx> gRAVIty_: maybe better at making it, but they haven't a clue about how to use most of it
[08:55] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: may be the best way to contact would be to come back to IRC i guess :)
[08:55] <gRAVIty_> do u have a blog?
[08:55] <gaelfx> gRAVIty_: almost everyone I know still uses XP, makes me a sad panda
[08:55] <compdoc> yeah, Im hear most mornings
[08:55] <gRAVIty_> gaelfx: I should come to china sometime and check out. I am surprised
[08:55] <compdoc> this is early for me. Its 3am here. Couldnt sleep
[08:55] <gaelfx> does rm move the item in question to the trash, or does it actually delete it?
[08:55] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: LOL God :)
[08:56] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: are you in a university?
[08:56] <gRAVIty_> My linux problems used to solved  in a jiffy when I was in my univ :(
[08:56] <gaelfx> gRAVIty_: it's probably better in bigger cities, but here, when people see me using Ubuntu, they almost always say "Is that Mac?"
[08:56] <compdoc> no. I have my own business servicing computers
[08:56] <chu> gaelfx: It deletes the file.
[08:56] <pozic> countley: there is a Linux version of that too.
[08:56] <gRAVIty_> compdoc: Cool :)
[08:56] <taher> i just installed ubuntu server on a logical partition on my computer along side with windows , but now there in no boot loader .... and the bios says there is no operating system installed
[08:57] <taher> any one help me please
[08:57] <gaelfx> chu: ok, so I need to mv to trash then, eh?
[08:57] <pozic> countley: In my experience there is not a single perfect PDF viewer on Linux.
[08:57] <pozic> countley: but for most people quite good is good enough.
[08:57] <gRAVIty_> gaelfx: LOL. that happens in India too. I just graduated from a relatively good univ and that is why I got used to linux
[08:57] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_: did u ix da problem?
[08:57] <chu> gaelfx: Yeah, though I'm not entirely sure where trash is, maybe somewhere like ~/.trash/ but you should ask and see :)
[08:57] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: not really. I got suggestions to try using a router. do u have any other ideas?
[08:58] <gaelfx> I guess my next question is where is the actual trash file?
[08:58] <gaelfx> haha, kk, I'll find it, no worries
[08:58] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_: i was thinking u shuld try 11.04 or 11.10 the upgrade to 12.04??
[08:58] <taher> please any one help me
[08:59] <taher> i'm in a big problem
[08:59] <gaelfx> chu: screw it, I'm just gonna move it to home folder
[08:59] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: can we downgrade ubuntu? I kind of like everything else on 12.04
[08:59] <confusius> taher: stating your issue will work better than crying
[08:59] <dr_willis> !trash
[08:59] <chu> gaelfx: Did you see that?
[08:59] <chu> dr_willis: Thank you again :)
[08:59] <taher> confusius : i just installed ubuntu server on a logical partition on my computer along side with windows , but now there in no boot loader .... and the bios says there is no operating system installed
[09:00] <daptordarattler> taher: boot a live cd nd reinstall grub to u logical partition
[09:00] <gaelfx> yes I did, thanks dr_willis and chu
[09:00] <kiamo> hmm
[09:00] <countley> pozic: its just that the page runs away when i start scrolling very annoying
[09:00] <confusius> taher: that's somewhat weird, since it then did overwrite your mbr (otherwise it'd boot windows). but wat daptordarattler  said
[09:00] <kiamo> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get ubuntu working with an nvidia FX5200?  I see the question around various forums, but can't find answers
[09:01] <gaelfx> funny thing is I was one click away from discovering that, but decided to give up
[09:01] <taher> daptordarattler : how
[09:01] <taher> ?
[09:01] <kiamo> nomodeset, and many other boot parameters I've tried all fail to solve it.
[09:01] <confusius> taher: don't use ubuntu much, but seems ok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:01] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_: i dnt think so, havent tried it but the fun part is u can install 11.10 over ur available 12.04 without loosing ur config folders if u dont format and then u can install all the apps u need before doing the online distro upgrade
[09:02] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_: works very well, tried it like 10 times, problems always fix on the old distro and dont come on the upgrade distro
[09:02] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: hmm. so that means it does not need extra space right?
[09:03] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_: not at all
[09:03] <pozic> countley: note that you ever said which client you use now.
[09:03] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: Cool. Thanks for the tip. I have nothing to loose that way then. Anyway 11.10 also has unity I guess?
[09:03] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty: when u get to the partition layout, jux uncheck the format option on the ext4 partition and it will override all system files except the user folder
[09:04] <daptordarattler> taher: when u boot the live cd  u install grub from the terminal
[09:04] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: Thanks. Will do that then :) cya for now. are you the one who posted on the forum just now?
[09:05] <daptordarattler> gRAVIty_ no just went to read the issue
[09:05] <pozic> I am currently in single-user mode, how can I remount /home rw?
[09:05] <pozic> I did mount -a, but that didn't do anything useful.
[09:05] <gaelfx> well, that didn't fix it. There is also a "blueman.desktop" file in that autostart, is that related to bluetooth?
[09:05] <gRAVIty_> daptordarattler: Thanks for the tip. Will post the results on the thread. cya for now . Cya everybody :)
[09:06] <countley> pozic: im using s h i t t y xpdf throw me a name cant get adobe reader to install
[09:06] <daptordarattler> taher: i cant remember the command exactly but I think its something like this "grub install /dev/hda /media/<partition name>"
[09:06] <pozic> countley: okular is good for 98% of tasks.
[09:06] <popokpou> hey folks, no luck googling this...
[09:06] <pozic> countley: evince is good for 90% of tasks.
[09:07] <popokpou> turned on my ubuntu laptop today and i get this error at startup: "System is running in low graphics mode"
[09:07] <pozic> countley: if you search for Windows PDF readers, you can just pick whatever you like and install them via wine.\
[09:07] <countley> downloading now
[09:07] <pozic> countley: in my experience they all work.
[09:07] <daptordarattler> taher: check the command online
[09:07] <popokpou> then i get a bunch of options given to me. 1. run in low graphics mode for one session. 2. reconfigure graphics. 3. troubleshoot. 4. exit to console
[09:07] <pozic> countley: some of them seem to  be more focussed on embedded applications.
[09:07] <popokpou> the user interface is buggered, i can't execute anything except go to console.
[09:07] <popokpou> can anyone help?
[09:07] <countley> pozic: but i like software to work well
[09:07] <tking> is it possible to check the last 3 updates?
[09:07] <pozic> countley: so, basically you get a shitty user-interface, but it's blazingly fast.
[09:08] <pozic> countley: it's more like advertising.
[09:08] <pozic> countley: you will likely like okular.
[09:08] <blackbear008> ?
[09:08] <blackbear008> hello
[09:08] <pozic> countley: but it has some issues if you are a very critical user.\
[09:08] <popokpou> can anybody help me with my poblem?
[09:08] <daptordarattler> popokpou: go to tty1 and reinstall lightgdm
[09:08] <popokpou> do you know the commands, daptordarattler?
[09:09] <popokpou> i recently tried these commands and they didn't work...
[09:09] <popokpou> sudo chown lightdm:lightdm -R /var/lib/lightdm
[09:09] <popokpou> sudo chown avahi-autoipd:avahi-autoipd -R /var/lib/avahi-autoipd
[09:09] <popokpou> sudo chown colord:colord -R /var/lib/colord
[09:09] <FloodBot1> popokpou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:09] <popokpou> (that is reinstalling lightdm?)
[09:09] <daptordarattler> no thats not reinstalling
[09:10] <popokpou> ok
[09:10] <ninjah> hello
[09:10] <popokpou> i'll google how to reinstall lightgdm
[09:10] <taher> daptordarattler , confusius : thanQ
[09:10] <popokpou> thanks
[09:10] <daptordarattler> u shuld do this "sudo apt-get purge lightdm; sudo apt-get install lightdm"
[09:10] <daptordarattler> popoku
[09:10] <daptordarattler> popokpou: hmmm.... just had a thought, remove the config files for the lightdm
[09:10] <popokpou> ok
[09:10] <popokpou> i'm currently purging...
[09:11] <daptordarattler> popokpou: k
[09:11] <popokpou> and its installing...
[09:11] <popokpou> what else are you suggesting?
[09:11] <popokpou> let me try and reboot to see if this worked first
[09:11] <bruce24> anyone know?
[09:12] <daptordarattler> popokpou: ok
[09:12] <ninjah> hello all again... is there a way that after all reboots/shut downs and entering OS the disks/partitions stay Mounted?
[09:13] <countley> pozic: that works fine thanks look like i got more control yippy
[09:13] <popokpou> didn't work, daptordafattler
[09:13] <popokpou> :-((
[09:13] <daptordarattler> popokpou: thats good so then the problem is definately in the config file
[09:13] <xujun10110> ninjah:no way
[09:14] <popokpou> its weird, i didn't change/install or do anything different to my computer except to shut it down and now this
[09:14] <popokpou> do you have any other ideas, daptor?
[09:14] <LINUX777> i my live ubuntu cant boot after splash screen.it stop at splash screen..but same iso work in virtualbox
[09:14] <LINUX777> plzzz posibile solution
[09:15] <daptordarattler> popokpou: remove the config files for lightdm and x11
[09:15] <popokpou> daptor: how?
[09:16] <LINUX777> plzz look at my problem
[09:16] <ninjah> LINUX777,  try reinstaling the os on a different media
[09:16] <LINUX777> i did three time
[09:16] <ninjah> perhaps the boot is corrupted
[09:16] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[09:16] <ninjah> or
[09:16] <LINUX777> it work fine in virtualbox..but in real os it stop at splash screen
[09:17] <ninjah> in the os, change the way it boots - make the os's media 1st
[09:17] <ninjah> what mobo you have?
[09:17] <daptordarattler> popokpou: firstly go to the graphics recovery screen and reset the graphics driver from the list or have u already tried taht
[09:17] <popokpou> so, daptor, remove "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"?
[09:18] <ninjah> gigabyte has the F12 options so you can choose
[09:18] <popokpou> i can't enter any recovery screen as far as i'm aware
[09:18] <popokpou> the four options it gives me after the "your system is running in low graphics" are buggered, they won't run
[09:18] <daptordarattler> popokpou: not that one , the one in ur home folder should be /home/user/.lightdm
[09:18] <daptordarattler> oh ok
[09:18] <dr_willis> recoveey is a grub menu item entry
[09:18] <ninjah> then just run the command lineđ, xstart
[09:18] <popokpou> so go into grub?
[09:19] <daptordarattler> reboot to recovery from grub and reset your graphics driver
[09:19] <popokpou> ok, good idea, how do i get to grub from startup?
[09:19] <magpie> what about uninstalling-installing again the graphics driver? that help in a similar situation
[09:19] <ninjah> i think it's the TAB key, not sure
[09:19] <ninjah> you can add the driver after the install
[09:19] <dr_willis> shift  if grub is hidden at boot
[09:20] <magpie> hold shift until it lets you pick recovery mode
[09:20] <daptordarattler> popokpou: lol, just keep tapping the down key or esc key when u restart before grub boots ur default
[09:20] <popokpou> ok got it thanks
[09:20] <popokpou> so boot into recovery mode...
[09:21] <ninjah> nah... boot command line and type startx or xstart?
[09:21] <popokpou> doh
[09:21] <ninjah> are you Homer j. Simpson?
[09:21] <popokpou> thats ok, from recovery i can drop into a shell prompt
[09:21]  * dr_willis missed the original issue
[09:22] <daptordarattler> yes
[09:22] <popokpou> it says i cannot startx
[09:22] <magpie> bruce willis is a doctor?
[09:22] <ninjah> then press the any key
[09:22] <ninjah> xstart
[09:22] <ninjah> or sudo xstart
[09:22] <popokpou> the original issue is "System is running in low graphics mode" at startup
[09:22] <popokpou> sudo xstart does nothing
[09:22] <popokpou> startx doesn't work
[09:22] <dr_willis> whats your video card pop?
[09:22] <ninjah> TI
[09:22] <dr_willis> dont  use sudo startx....
[09:23] <daptordarattler> popokpou it should give u an option in the recovery list to reset xorg config
[09:23] <daptordarattler> do u see that
[09:23] <popokpou> si need to reboot to get back to those options, daptor, i went into the console
[09:23] <ninjah> YEAH XPRG ,IGHT BE THE ISSUE
[09:23] <ninjah> S0RRY
[09:23] <ninjah> caps
[09:23] <FloodBot1> ninjah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <ninjah> told i was sorry
[09:23] <magpie> ninjas dont apologise
[09:24] <daptordarattler> In my experience there is suppose to be an option for that in recovery options list popokpou
[09:24] <popokpou> grub is freezing up now *sigh*
[09:24] <magpie> you;re not a ninja
[09:24] <ninjah> i work for Jah
[09:25] <magpie> whos jah?
[09:25] <popokpou> i have no option to "reset xorg config" in recovery mode, but i can "run in failsafe graphic mode"
[09:25] <oCean> magpie, ninjah let's move back on topic (support)
[09:25] <res22> Has anyone else been finding google chrome on ubuntu terrible since the last update?
[09:26] <ninjah> okay
[09:26] <magpie> use chromium
[09:26] <res22> roughly a week ago
[09:26] <magpie> oCean ok
[09:26] <res22> magpie: how is flash support for chromium?
[09:26] <popokpou> flash support great in chromium
[09:26] <popokpou> any other ideas for this low=-graphics problem?
[09:26] <popokpou> i'm thinking i'll have to reformat
[09:26] <dr_willis> !fixres
[09:26] <magpie> i read somewhere that adobe is bailing out on firefox so firefox will now use something similar, hence chromium is better in terms of flash etc etc
[09:27] <daptordarattler> run the low graphics mode and open your xorg config to check if its empty
[09:27] <popokpou> ok, i'll try
[09:27] <res22> adobe has stopped developing flash for linux entirely, so chrome is the only stable version anymore
[09:27] <magpie> bailing out was wrong word
[09:27] <magpie> anyways
[09:27] <magpie> yeah, chrome-chromium much better, and faster
[09:27] <magpie> and responsive
[09:28] <popokpou> that is xorg config in /usr/lib/x11/xorg.conf.d/
[09:28] <popokpou> correct?
[09:28] <dr_willis>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:28] <res22> ok I'll download it again, I uninstalled and replaced it with google chrome before but I can't remember why
[09:28] <popokpou> ok
[09:28] <magpie> res22 talking about chromium?
[09:28] <magpie> its open-source
[09:28] <res22> yes
[09:28] <magpie> i reckon its better
[09:28] <res22> ok
[09:28] <popokpou> it does not work when i try to load in low graphics mode
[09:29] <daptordarattler> popokpou: wrong
[09:29] <popokpou> all i have is console
[09:29] <ninjah> no they haven't stopped developing flash for linux - the US government uses a form of linux - of course there is flash
[09:29] <daptordarattler> popokpou: it should be something like /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:29] <ninjah> what you talking about
[09:29] <popokpou> i'm going back to cnosole and i'll check
[09:30] <ninjah> and chromium, although okay i do not recommend it, cuz it crashes
[09:30] <magpie> ninja adobe stopped supporting firefox
[09:30] <res22> ya chromium seems to how come on a long way since I last installed it
[09:30] <magpie> at least the 13nth version
[09:30] <popokpou> i have xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:30] <popokpou> but no xorg.conf
[09:30] <daptordarattler> i have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe, so im guessing that should be it
[09:30] <magpie> popokpou is it nvidia or ati/
[09:31] <popokpou> i don't know, i think nvidia, but i haven't installed any proprietary drivers
[09:31] <popokpou> last time i did that it buggered everything up
[09:31] <popokpou> so what do you want me to do with this file? edit it with nano?
[09:31] <daptordarattler> check the contents
[09:31] <daptordarattler> is it empty or not
[09:31] <magpie> i  just found a thread (solved) and these guys solved it by blacklisting some stuff, i am allowed to copy paste the link here?
[09:31] <dr_willis> use lspci to see what your video card is also.
[09:31] <daptordarattler> I have a situation where my file was empty once
[09:31] <ninjah> magpie, try the beta then and you'll see everything, except few glitches work perfect... you gotta tweak it yourself - that's why, WELL I think ubuntu like others is open sourse
[09:32] <ninjah> sourced... sorry---
[09:32] <popokpou> my file is not empty
[09:32] <daptordarattler> cool, then delete the xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:32] <popokpou> it has quite a few lines, is there anything inparticular you're interested in ehre?
[09:32] <haris> how to change xfce to iceWM on Xubuntu 11.10?
[09:32] <popokpou> delete it. are you sure?
[09:32] <ninjah> popkpou, what's  the issue?
[09:32] <magpie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1567939
[09:32] <daptordarattler> dont worry it wont mess anything up since its not being loaded in the first place
[09:32] <dr_willis> haris:  install icewm, select icecwm at the login screen
[09:32] <popokpou> ok
[09:32] <magpie> ninjah i am using firefox
[09:33] <magpie> dont have any probs
[09:33] <ninjah> me too
[09:33] <dr_willis> icewm last i tried it  - was rather dated.. and starting to lack in features
[09:33] <popokpou> file removed. rebooting...
[09:33] <haris> how to change xfce to iceWM on Xubuntu 11.10?
[09:33] <popokpou> (fingers crossed)
[09:33] <magpie> daptor and/or dr_willis maybe you should check the 8th answer in the link i provided, that guy solved popokous situation
[09:33] <daptordarattler> ok , the graphics recovery screen will come up
[09:33] <gaelfx> haris: I would refer you to dr_willis's answer
[09:34] <ninjah> considering graphics it had a bit of issues for ATI cards before, now WS cards are working and are used to full potential- i use firepro and havent had any issues
[09:34] <popokpou> didn't work
[09:34] <popokpou> "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[09:34] <popokpou> ARGH
[09:34] <magpie> check the link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1567939
[09:34] <ninjah> go  to drivers
[09:35] <ninjah> install propreitary drivers
[09:35] <ninjah> for you card... popokpu
[09:35] <magpie> according to the link i provided that wont help him
[09:35] <magpie> if hes using nvidia
[09:35] <popokpou> i have no user-interface, i can only use console. also, installing proprietary drivers has buggered everything up ni the past.
[09:35] <popokpou> this is the first time this has happened, and it happened for no reason, i haven't changed anything to do with my graphics drivers or anything
[09:36] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:36] <dr_willis> if using nvidia
[09:36] <ninjah> why not try if he's in the booted installed syste?
[09:36] <gaelfx> popokpou: what gpu are you using?
[09:36] <daptordarattler> but from the thread it looks like a compiz issue
[09:36] <popokpou> gpu? gnome?
[09:36] <ninjah> GPU
[09:36] <daptordarattler> popokpou: try deleting .compiz and reboot
[09:36] <gaelfx> popokpou: graphics card
[09:36] <ninjah> graphic card yeah
[09:36] <dr_willis> wait.. does the Login screen look/work correctly?
[09:36] <popokpou> i'm hesitant to install proprietary drivers...
[09:37] <popokpou> let me first try this compiz thing ok?
[09:37] <magpie> dr_willis can you check the link? it seemed to have worked. I cant do it cause im a nob
[09:37] <popokpou> incidently, fyi, i'm only able to work from command line
[09:37] <daptordarattler> it should be soemthing like .compiz-1
[09:37] <dr_willis> im on my cellphone. checking links. is hard for me.
[09:37] <magpie> daptor?
[09:37] <ninjah> nvidia never had problems - at least as i know - neither from debian to forks, not to mention arch. fedora ...
[09:37] <magpie> can you do it?
[09:37] <magpie> do you guys want me to type here the answer?
[09:37] <daptordarattler> magpie: be my guest
[09:38] <ninjah> a pie is a lie
[09:38] <ninjah> tyoe
[09:38] <ninjah> type
[09:38] <daptordarattler> magpie: I looked at the thread,
[09:38] <magpie> daptor-and ?
[09:38] <oCean> ninjah: stop the offtopic remarks. Last warning
[09:38] <popokpou> does anyone know where compiz lives?
[09:38] <dr_willis>  settins are normally in the .config dir. or users home dir
[09:38] <gaelfx> popokpou: ok, when you are the command prompt, type "cd ~"
[09:39] <daptordarattler> magpie: wen u use proprietory drivers u get those errors but u can still run ur box without it, and u shouldnt get that error unless theres something else wrong somewhere
[09:39] <gaelfx> popokpou: then type "ls -A" and you should see a file named .compiz or something like it
[09:39] <magpie> daptor ok i was trying to help, it seemed to have helped that guy on the thread
[09:39] <daptordarattler> popokpou: sudo rm ~/.compiz-1
[09:39] <popokpou> thanks, gaelfx. i have ".compiz-1"
[09:39] <ninjah> I am trying to help popkpou since everyone wants him to make commandlines that are not needed if he is in UBUNTU and can go to drivers, install GPU drivers by default ubuntu gives him
[09:39] <popokpou> you want me to delete this?
[09:39] <[flux]> Going to install 12.04 on my mac. Anything I should know preinst?
[09:39] <daptordarattler> popokpou: sudo rm -Rf ~/.compiz-1
[09:39] <popokpou> ok....
[09:39] <gaelfx> popokpou: so do "rm .compiz-1"
[09:40] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: sudo shouldn't be necessary in the user's home folder
[09:40] <magpie> [flux] try the live cd and if everything works (internet, wireless etc) then do it
[09:40] <daptordarattler> magpie yeah it did but he wanted the nvidia drivers popokpou doesnt
[09:40] <popokpou> ok done. rebooting...
[09:40] <popokpou> (fingers crossed)
[09:40] <daptordarattler> gaelfx true but shit happens
[09:41] <oCean> daptordarattler: control your language here, please
[09:41] <ninjah> and the sudo-apt upgrade and sudo-apt update. i did this on 2 comps and it worked- one is my WS - this one with ATI, the other is Nvidia
[09:41] <oCean> ninjah: no, as he says he is currently on commandline, has no GUI. If you are not 100% confident you are offering a working solution, please let the others know. Posting offtopic comments as "the pie is a lie" is not wecome at all
[09:41] <gaelfx> I just think it's best to avoid sudoing unnecessarily, perhaps I'm paranoid
[09:41] <ninjah> i am sorry for the pie is a lie
[09:41] <daptordarattler> popokpou: compiz has about 3 different locations so not all might work oCean: my bad
[09:41] <ninjah> i was just kidding
[09:41] <popokpou> didn't work
[09:41] <popokpou> "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[09:42] <popokpou> "exit to console" (yes)
[09:42] <[flux]> magpie: Everything works, except the animations on the desktop
[09:42] <gaelfx> popokpou: ok, can you tell me what graphics card you're using?
[09:42] <magpie> daptor i found another one, it said that when the message low graphics show up hit ctrl+alt+f1 then login with your credentials  and then run the following command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then sudo reboot
[09:42] <dr_willis> popokpou:  so the Login screen is working? but it messages that once your user logs in??
[09:42] <popokpou> i'm not sure, gaelfx
[09:42] <popokpou> the login screen doesn't work
[09:42] <magpie> [flux] what kind of animations?
[09:42] <dr_willis> then it cant be a user setting issue....
[09:42] <popokpou> i haven't changed anything, i don't understand this
[09:42] <[flux]> the window close/open, desktop switch, etc.
[09:42] <[flux]> But I could care less
[09:43] <daptordarattler> popokpou: try the other 2 locations .cache/compiz-1 and .config/compizsettings I think
[09:43] <Wavelight> hello
[09:43] <gaelfx> popokpou: ok, can you pastebin the output of "lspci | grep -i vga"?
[09:43] <popokpou> i get the "the system is running in low graphic smode" prior to the login screen
[09:43] <[flux]> err
[09:43] <daptordarattler> magpie ubuntu-desktop is already installed
[09:43] <[flux]> I couldn't
[09:43] <magpie> [flux] i dont use ubuntu but maybe you can fix it easily once you have the whole deal
[09:43] <ninjah> popokpou,  try this if you can get online: sudo-apt upgrade and sudo-apt update, then reboot, see what'll happen cuz i don't get how he can have copmpiz installed if he's not in GUI yet
[09:43] <popokpou> ok, aptor
[09:43] <magpie> ok sorry again
[09:43] <popokpou> i'll try ninjah's idea first.
[09:43] <[flux]> magpie: yeah, guess I'll find out, thanks.
[09:43] <gaelfx> ninjah: it's sudo apt-get upgrade, not sudo-apt
[09:44] <ninjah> yeah soorry
[09:44] <daptordarattler> ninjah: he had it running before and then it crushed so definately compiz was in there
[09:44] <Wavelight> please give me your advice, I-am not using linux and I don-t understand the line comand, for a router it-s better for me to install and use PFSENSE or Ubuntu ?
[09:44] <ninjah> sudo apt-get update
[09:44] <popokpou> thats cool, i'm familiar with the command
[09:44] <ninjah> and the same with upgrae
[09:44] <daptordarattler> ninjah: and remember he had the compiz config files there tooo
[09:44] <popokpou> nothing new installed, nothing removed, nothing upgraded.
[09:44] <ninjah> upgrade, sincerely apologies
[09:44] <popokpou> so i'll try the other compiz settings...
[09:44] <magpie> what about sudo apt-get -f install ?
[09:45] <Wavelight> I understand that after installing Ubuntu server I need to make a lot of comand to secure the distribution, etc
[09:45] <magpie> maybe something broke down the road
[09:45] <popokpou> magpie, again, nothing installed, nothing changed
[09:45] <dr_willis> Wavelight:  cant say ive ever heard that  was needed.
[09:45] <popokpou> i am now removing "compizconfig-1" from .cache
[09:45] <gaelfx> popokpou: as daptordarattler noted, there are also files for compiz in other folders, so you probably need to remove them as well
[09:46] <ninjah> or do a reinstall full
[09:46] <popokpou> thats done. i am now removing .config/compiz-1
[09:46] <popokpou> thats done. rebooting...
[09:46] <gaelfx> popokpou: do "cd ~/.cache" then "ls -A" and remove the folder with compiz in the name using the command from before, and then "cd ~/.config", "ls -A" and the same
[09:47] <magpie> what about this command    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ???
[09:47] <ninjah> seems you added the tricks and shananigans before installing a gpu that can handle it
[09:47] <popokpou> too late, gaelfx, rebooting arleady
[09:47] <daptordarattler> hmmm magpie: that could work too
[09:47] <oCean> ninjah: again, if you have no idea how to actually help the other, please stop posting suggestions such as full reinstall
[09:47] <dr_willis> i still dont see how the USErS .compiz config files will be breaking Lightdm
[09:47] <popokpou> that has already been removed actually, gaelf
[09:47] <daptordarattler> it resets the graphics configuration
[09:47] <Vib3> hi
[09:47] <magpie> popokpou  try this command    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <haris> E: Unable to locate package  why?
[09:47] <popokpou> magpie, one moment please
[09:47] <gaelfx> popokpou: haha, sorry
[09:47] <daptordarattler> popokpou: WHAT u mean u removed the xserver-xorg
[09:48] <magpie> should revert the gui to original state
[09:48] <popokpou> didn't work.
[09:48] <dr_willis> haris:  what package?
[09:48] <popokpou> ok, so magpie, i should "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[09:48] <ninjah> ocean get the fuck out of my face... i am trying to help you just fucking complain everytime i say something. pure greetings from me piss you off. what you having a PMS?
[09:48] <magpie> yeah try it
[09:48] <ninjah> i know im out
[09:48] <popokpou> if this doesn't work, i think i'll backup my files and reformat
[09:48] <dr_willis> im not sure half the advice is valid at alll...
[09:49] <Vib3> tried to install backtrack 5 r2 to eee-pc 901 which is based on ubuntu 10.04, but getting "geom error" at boot :/
[09:49] <magpie> try it and if nothing happens then re-install ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <daptordarattler> popokpou: lol it will be fine ull c
[09:49] <dr_willis> Vib3:  see the  backtrck channels
[09:49] <popokpou> i hope so, daptor :-))
[09:49] <popokpou> pain in teh ass to reformat
[09:49] <popokpou> just going back into console...
[09:49] <haris> anything
[09:49] <magpie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:49] <daptordarattler> do wat magpie is suggesting
[09:49] <Vib3> dr_willis: k, but I think its ubuntu issue
[09:50] <popokpou> command issued...
[09:50] <popokpou> and reboot?
[09:50] <Aritz> anyone know about DROPWATCH tool in ubuntu?
[09:50] <dr_willis> vib3 dosent matter.. You are not using Ubuntu, you aer using backtrack.
[09:50] <magpie> popokpou reboot
[09:50] <popokpou> rebooting...
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> Vib3  type /join #backtrack-linux
[09:51] <dr_willis> popokpou:  did you ever determine what your video chipset is?
[09:51] <popokpou> dr_willis, i'm not entirely sure how to do that
[09:51] <gaelfx> popokpou: lspci
[09:51] <popokpou> the default drivers have always worked fine, the one time i decided to install proprietary drivers it buggered up
[09:51] <dr_willis> lspci command - shows all the cards on the system
[09:51] <popokpou> btw, the latest command did not work. going back to console.
[09:51] <Vib3> MonkeyDust: thx! didn't notice that chan, just #backtrack
[09:52] <popokpou> one sec...
[09:52] <popokpou> rebooting again
[09:52] <gaelfx> popokpou: lspci | grep -i vga"
[09:52] <magpie> popokpou just for trying out sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <magpie> i know he has it installed but it wont hurt re-installing it
[09:52] <magpie> will it?
[09:52] <popokpou> one sec
[09:52] <dr_willis> should say its all up to date
[09:53] <popokpou> the result of lspci grep etc
[09:53] <popokpou> "VGA compatible controller: advanced micro devices (AMD) nee ATI mobility radeon HD 4830 (M97)
[09:54] <popokpou> now issuing command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", yes?
[09:54] <dr_willis> so you have an ATI video card. not an Nvidia
[09:54] <popokpou> that appears to be the case, dr_willis.
[09:54] <magpie> popokpou hit it
[09:54] <gaelfx> that certainly goes a long way towards explaining the issue :P
[09:54] <popokpou> installing...
[09:54] <popokpou> it does?
[09:55] <popokpou> thats done. reboot?
[09:55] <dr_willis> no need to reboot
[09:55] <gaelfx> popokpou: sorry, that was kind of a joke
[09:55] <dr_willis> did it accvtually install anything?
[09:55] <popokpou> it installed 1 new pacakge
[09:55] <dr_willis> which was?
[09:55] <popokpou> "ubunt-desktop"
[09:55] <magpie> i have the opposite problem, if i keep default graphics drivers then when watching a movie the player freezes,every player freezers, when i tweak the sound i get the classic windows-freeze, once i installed the proprietary i was ok
[09:55] <Jonne> is there anything that can open mdb files except mdbtools? It's failing to export the data
[09:56] <popokpou> so, now what? "startx"?
[09:56] <magpie> popokpou reboot
[09:56] <Jonne> i can see everything fine, but the export button won't allow me to pick a file
[09:56] <popokpou> rebooting...
[09:56] <popokpou> (fingers crossed)
[09:56] <gaelfx> popokpou: which proprietary driver did you install and how did you install it?
[09:56] <dr_willis> id say check output of 'startx' to see if any errors are shown.  then try 'jockey-text' to see what drivers it suggests
[09:57] <popokpou> currently, i have no installed any proprietary drivers. however, when i did install a proprietary in the past, it was one that prompted me to install it... which inveribly buggered hte system (this was ages ago.. maybe a year)
[09:57] <magpie> dr_willis can i try jockey-text to see any drivers my system needs?
[09:57] <dr_willis> magpie:  try it and see
[09:57] <magpie> popokpou what happened?
[09:57] <popokpou> problem still exists.
[09:58] <magpie> dr_willis it searched but nothing came up
[09:58] <popokpou> same thing. "the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected. you will need to cinfigure these yourself." then it gives four options, of cwhich the only one that works is "exis to console"
[09:58] <dr_willis> popokpou:  try 'startx' and see if any errors show up
[09:58] <zhoumao> 1
[09:58] <popokpou> startx... seems to be donig something
[09:58] <zhoumao> 有人吗
[09:58] <popokpou> the screen is all black
[09:59] <LjL> !cn | zhoumao
[09:59] <popokpou> and it appears to be frozen
[09:59] <gaelfx> !zh | zhoumao
[09:59] <gaelfx> oops
[09:59] <dr_willis> unity takes some time to load..
[09:59] <Bendude> hello
[09:59] <popokpou> yep. "startx" from console makes the screen black and nothings happening
[09:59] <zhoumao> 英文不懂
[09:59] <zhoumao> hello
[09:59] <magpie> ok popokpou i have one final solution probably
[09:59] <popokpou> ok, i'll give it a minute. in the meantime, i'm going to get a glass of wine.. this looksl ike it might take a while :-((
[09:59] <zhoumao> ????
[09:59] <dr_willis> popokpou:  now use alt-ctrl-f1 to get to the console you ran startx from andf look for errors. if nothing happens after a few min.
[09:59] <gaelfx> zhoumao 你应该打 /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:00] <Aritz> anyone know about DROPWATCH tool in ubuntu?
[10:00] <gaelfx> ]
[10:00] <magpie> popokpou try this its my last resort   sudo apt-get install fglrx   and then reboot
[10:00] <popokpou> ok... yes, dr_willis... the errors are as follows
[10:00] <zhoumao> no English
[10:00] <dr_willis> !info dropwatch
[10:00] <zhoumao> 指令吗
[10:00] <popokpou> "invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key.."
[10:00] <popokpou> on and on down the screen
[10:00] <popokpou> i can't control-c out of this, so i'm going to have to reboot
[10:01] <gaelfx> zhoumao 我已经告诉你打 /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:01] <dr_willis> odd you cant ctrl-c out. i do that all the time.
[10:01] <dr_willis> or go to the  other console.
[10:01] <dr_willis> and killall X
[10:01] <magpie> popokpou sudo apt-get install fglrx  then reboot
[10:01] <popokpou> so last resort imma try magpie's suggestion, then i'm going to reformat
[10:01] <Bendude> sorry to hop in with a random question but has anyone got experience installing 12.04 on a T91MT?
[10:01] <dr_willis> or its your .Xauthority file causing issues.
[10:01] <popokpou> i have to make sure i don't lose any of my files
[10:01] <popokpou> it will be devastating
[10:02] <popokpou> no backups, as i recently install this ubuntu os
[10:02] <patrickd> Hello. Can I ask a GNU tools question? I'd like to create a tarball from a directory foo. I'd like to exclude the directory foo/bar, so I tried '--exclude bar', but that also excludes foo/baz/bar or whatever. What should I do? Thanks.
[10:02] <dape-work> hello, if a ubuntu infrastructure admin is online, can he or she please PM me ? thanks!
[10:02] <LjL> dape-work: what do you mean by infrastructure admin?
[10:02] <popokpou> installing...
[10:02] <magpie> fingers crossed mate
[10:02] <dape-work> LjL: one that sysadmins ubuntu repository servers
[10:03] <LjL> dape-work: hmm, there is the channel #ubuntu-mirrors, but i'm not sure it's the most appropriate place.
[10:04] <dape-work> LjL: thanks for the tip
[10:04] <Aritz> thanks <ubottu>
[10:04] <magpie> dr_willis how to i keep my nickname for ever when im plugged in here?
[10:04] <zhoumao> 那位懂中文的大哥还在吗
[10:04] <Aritz> !info dropwatch
[10:04] <dr_willis> !regiester  | magpie
[10:04] <magpie> cheers mate
[10:04] <dr_willis> !register  | magpie
[10:05] <popokpou> getting a few errors with this install...
[10:05] <popokpou> quite a few errors while processing
[10:05] <popokpou> "failed to write" etc etc etc etc
[10:05] <popokpou> but it's done now, so i'll see if it worked
[10:05] <popokpou> rebooting
[10:05] <dr_willis> popokpou:  erorrs while installing  fglrx?
[10:05] <magpie> popokpou do the classic command  sudo apt-get -f install
[10:05] <popokpou> yes, errors while isntalling gflrx
[10:05] <zhoumao> 我打了那个指令 是不是就进入了CN频道
[10:05] <dr_willis> popokpou:  that may be the core of the whole problem then
[10:05] <magpie> zhoumao english
[10:05] <Bendude> i just installed 12.04 on a T91MT and i startup to a consol, anyone willing to help me out pm me. thanks in advance
[10:05] <Aritz> are there any similar cmd like dropwatch in ubuntu?
[10:05] <popokpou> so you want me to type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:06] <gaelfx> zhoumao: 这儿只会用英语，要用中文的话，应该打 /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:06] <magpie> yes
[10:06] <popokpou> ok
[10:06] <dr_willis> Bendude:  and whats your video chipset?
[10:06] <popokpou> still getting all those errors again
[10:06] <popokpou> filling up teh whole screen, too fast for me to see what it says
[10:06] <magpie> popokpou if it doesnt work then guess is clean install all over
[10:06] <Aritz> !info dropwatch
[10:06] <Bendude> GMA 500
[10:06] <popokpou> i think its a clean install over, didn't work
[10:06] <popokpou> so i need to backup my files, this is very important i don't lose anything
[10:06] <popokpou> one moment while i get some usb mediadrives
[10:06] <dr_willis> popokpou:  what sort of errors?
[10:07] <popokpou> you guys can help me out here
[10:07] <zhoumao> Hello,everyone
[10:07] <popokpou> the errors are "cp: writing to '/tmp/mkinitramfs_etcetc/modprobe/etcetcetc" no space left on device
[10:07] <gaelfx> I'm sure I've asked this before, but I can't understand why they don't make /home a separate partition on default installs
[10:07] <popokpou> (however, i have HEAPS of space)
[10:07] <gogli> i want to run apt-get clean after every 15 minutes in background , how can i do this
[10:07] <gaelfx> !cn > zhoumao
[10:08] <popokpou> if i lose my files i'll be losing hundreds of dollars worth of bitcoins so i hope this goes ok
[10:08] <Bendude> pm dr_willis GMA 500
[10:08] <dr_willis> no space left on drive = your hd is full.
[10:08] <iceroot> gaelfx: because its confusing users how to set the size of / and /home
[10:08] <popokpou> my drive is no-where near full
[10:08] <magpie> dr_willis i saw a thread that talked about no-space-on-device
[10:08] <magpie> let me check
[10:08] <popokpou> its a fresh install from maby ea  month ago
[10:08] <popokpou> i have 700 gig or something
[10:08] <dr_willis>  popokpou  something is full. or the filssytem is messed up
[10:08] <gaelfx> iceroot: right, which is why the default install should do that for them, no?
[10:08] <dr_willis> popokpou:  whats the outoput of 'df -h' say
[10:08] <zhoumao> You say I can not read
[10:09] <popokpou> df-h gives me... ummmm...
[10:09] <popokpou> well, its interesting, it says "454 or 461G used" why would this be????
[10:09] <popokpou> i left the computer on last night over night... ?
[10:09] <magpie> dr_willis the system is messed up theres nothing wrong with his hdd
[10:09] <daptordarattler> lol
[10:09] <daptordarattler> thats large
[10:09] <dr_willis> the dpkg system just said couldent write.. disk full.
[10:10] <zhoumao> You say I have not read this sentence is Google Translate
[10:10] <popokpou> i have nowhere near that amount of stuff on here
[10:10] <daptordarattler> popokpou are u doing a new install?
[10:10] <popokpou> i think i have to do a new install
[10:10] <popokpou> i'm going to delete some stuff of my USB stick so i can back up my files
[10:10] <popokpou> then hopefully you guys can give me a hand to make sure i get all my files?
[10:10] <gaelfx> zhoumao: 你应该到 #ubuntu-cn
[10:10] <dr_willis> or figure out whats taking up all the spaafe and try to fix it.
[10:10] <popokpou> i have no idea whats taking up all that space, its weird
[10:10] <magpie> dr_willis i know, i found a couple of threads with the same problem, it wasnt full, it was messed up somehow
[10:11] <popokpou> some temp file or something?
[10:11] <dr_willis> but bakups are aleways a good idea
[10:11] <popokpou> let me clear off my usb stick first..
[10:11] <popokpou> is there a nice easy way to backup all my files or is it just copy=-paste?
[10:11] <dr_willis> after making backups. try fscking the filesystems. if you want to attempt to repair
[10:11] <popokpou> i mostly want to make sure i get my virtualbox disk images, thats the most important thign to me
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> popokpou  use rsync
[10:11] <popokpou> rsync, ok
[10:12] <popokpou> is that easy enough to use?
[10:12] <popokpou> the thing is thouhg, will it back up everything? because it appears i have a whole bunch of random stuff filling up my drive
[10:12] <magpie> whats your capacity?
[10:12] <magpie> 300gb?
[10:13] <popokpou> it appears to be about 500G
[10:13] <magpie> i reckon its not real
[10:13] <magpie> the things you have in the disk
[10:13] <popokpou> its odd
[10:13] <popokpou> thats for sure
[10:13] <magpie> quite so
[10:13] <popokpou> i dno't have anything on there except for a few videos and some virtualbox drives
[10:14] <compdoc> both have large files
[10:14] <gogli> i want to run "apt-get clean "after every 15 minutes .how can i do this ?
[10:14] <compdoc> gogli, its a bad idea, but you can create a cron job
[10:14] <popokpou> true, but nowhee near 500G
[10:14] <gogli> !cron
[10:15] <popokpou> anyway, my usb is full so i'm dumping it onto this windows machine to free it up so i can backup my data, this is going to take a while, so i'll just chill in here
[10:15] <magpie> popokpou and dr-wills i found a solution that concerns the xorg file
[10:15] <magpie> was there something wrong with the xorg file?
[10:15] <popokpou> go ahead, magpie
[10:16] <popokpou> i can't recall, i think teh xorg.conf.failsafe was normal
[10:16] <popokpou> where does it live again?
[10:16] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:16] <popokpou> see-ya
[10:17] <magpie> i will type here the answers i found and maybe daptor can verify them as an option?
[10:17] <magpie> daptor is that ok by you?
[10:17] <popokpou> this usb is going to take TWO HOURS to copy stuff over *sigh*
[10:17] <popokpou> sounds great, magpie
[10:17] <gaelfx> gogli: why on earth would you want to run that command every 15 minutes?
[10:17] <[flux]> Shit.
[10:17] <[flux]> Ubuntu installed in 15 minutes.
[10:17] <[flux]> in your face, windows.
[10:17] <FloodBot1> [flux]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <[flux]> .-.
[10:17] <gaelfx> [flux]: you think that's good? try it with USB3.0 :D
[10:18] <magpie> sudo apt-get remove - - purge xserver-xorg              sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <[flux]> gaelfx: Haha, I will.
[10:18] <magpie> i found these 3 steps
[10:18] <[flux]> This was using a CD ;P
[10:18] <magpie> can someone verify them as plausible?
[10:18] <popokpou> ok... i seem to remember doing something similar to that before, but i'll try again after they get verified
[10:18] <gaelfx> [flux]: it only took me 2 minutes to make the LiveUSb using startup disk creator the other day :D
[10:18] <[flux]> :D
[10:19] <elspuddy> is they any seay way of transfering my user files from one ubuntu box to another ?
[10:19] <magpie> popokpou where is daptor?
[10:19] <popokpou> daptor, are you there?
[10:19] <gogli> gaelfx : just to free some memory : )
[10:20] <popokpou> it just occured to me, i might use a live cd to transfer my files to my usb when its ready
[10:20] <popokpou> rather than command line...
[10:20] <popokpou> that way i can be 100% sure they've copied over
[10:20] <gogli> gaelfx: i know its not a good idea because it create a lock on apt but i want to
[10:20] <magpie> popokpou sounds good
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> elspuddy  copy them to a free usb drive/pendrive and from there to other pc
[10:21] <{Aquamarine}> καλημερα..:)
[10:21] <LjL> !gr | {Aquamarine}
[10:21] <gaelfx> gogli: if you're talking about keeping RAM open, that's not gonna do anything but take up more RAM every 15 minutes
[10:21] <magpie> popokpou write down the three steps i said and run them after these commands   1) sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current    2) sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:22] <magpie> καλημερα φιλαρκαο
[10:22] <{Aquamarine}> ευχαριστω..:)
[10:22] <popokpou> ok magpie
[10:22] <zhoumao> I would like to ask how to go to Japan channel
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> !jp
[10:22] <magpie> popokpou then reboot, if nothing happens then proceed to the other 3 steps i mentioned
[10:22] <popokpou> i get all those "failed to write" messages (beacuse of the full HD)
[10:23] <magpie> its a b**** i know
[10:23] <gogli> gaelfx: i know , it will take attention of the CPU but i want to understand all this stuff .I'm a learner not a expert .  : )  Just chill bro , i want to try every thing
[10:23] <zhoumao> thank
[10:23] <popokpou> is there some way i can purge temp files or soemthing to fre eup space?
[10:23] <magpie> if nothing works then do the live cd-usb file transfering and start a clean install, try xubuntu 12.04
[10:23] <magpie> never had a prob
[10:23] <popokpou> i think i'll just fresh install, as annoying as that is
[10:23] <gaelfx> ooooh, he wanted japanese...weird
[10:24] <popokpou> just so long as i don't lose my files then i'm satisfied
[10:24] <magpie> popokpou the temp file cleans itself automatically when you reboot
[10:24] <magpie> thats why i said its a messed up problem it isnt real capacity problem
[10:24] <gaelfx> gogli: apt-get clean just clears the downloaded package files from apt-get, which will save some disk space (not memory), so you really only need to run it maybe once a month, unless you are doing some crazy pacakge installing
[10:25] <elspuddy> MonkeyDust, and this will take all my setting for xchat ect ?
[10:25] <popokpou> my concern is mostly for virtuabox, i'm worried that i might miss some important files when i back it up and i'll lose my OS's
[10:25] <popokpou> i have two virtualbox folders i can see, one is ".VirtualBox" and the other is "Virtualbox VMs", is that all i need to backup do you think?
[10:25] <gogli> i want to start an application after 15 minute after startup .How can i do this ?
[10:26] <magpie> i dont use virtualbox so i cant help you out mate
[10:26] <popokpou> this is scary
[10:26] <denysonique> Hi
[10:26] <popokpou> i have a bigass bitcoin wallet on a virtual machine
[10:26] <denysonique> How can I make 12.04 handle apt:// urls with GDebi instead of Software Center?
[10:26] <gaelfx> popokpou: I personally would backup all of /home
[10:27] <popokpou> gaelfx, good idea methinks
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> elspuddy  yes, xchat settings are stored in some hidden .config file
[10:27] <gaelfx> popokpou: also, on your next install, I would suggest making a separate /home partition so you don't need to worry about stuff like that so much in the future
[10:27] <popokpou> oh... ok?
[10:27] <bright> hello i have nvidia geforce gt 520mx graphic card and just installed driver. after that it changed my xorg.conf and couldnt login in my ubuntu and i removed xorg.conf. so problem is what i can't see changes after installing grafic card driver
[10:27] <magpie> gaelfx a manual install ?
[10:27] <gaelfx> popokpou: hang on, I'll try to see if I can find a good guide about that
[10:27] <popokpou> i think i have a swap and a harddrive partition.. so i should make a separate "home" partition too
[10:27] <popokpou> i went with default
[10:27] <gaelfx> magpie: well, yeah, all the cool kids are doing it :P
[10:27] <elspuddy> thanks MonkeyDust  :
[10:28] <gogli> gaelfx:  :i want to start an application after 15 minute after startup .How can i do this ?
[10:28] <elspuddy> :)
[10:28] <magpie> im soooooo new to linux i couldnt figure out the manual partitioning
[10:28] <kanupatar> hi guys
[10:28] <popokpou> i'm fairly new too
[10:28] <gaelfx> popokpou: yeah, it's actually not too difficult
[10:28] <kanupatar> how can i set up root password in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:28] <gaelfx> magpie: I can learnify you alittle about it, if you're interested
[10:28] <popokpou> i've been using it for a c ouple of years but i've never really got under the hood
[10:28] <magpie> Bright  try installing xorg again
[10:28] <kanupatar> now i installed as a user with name tetester and my password
[10:29] <popokpou> bbl
[10:29] <magpie> gaelfx havent had any  probs with xubuntu 12.04 so ill stick by it and if something happens ill contact you... i know where you live
[10:29] <gaelfx> :P
[10:29] <bright> magpie how i can install xorg
[10:29] <bright> again
[10:29] <gogli> !xorg
[10:30] <kanupatar> passwd root is not working
[10:30] <gaelfx> popokpou: basically, when you're partitioning, just remember to give a decent size for '/', but you probably want to dedicate most of the drive to '/home' and about double your RAM to 'swap'
[10:30] <kanupatar> :(
[10:30] <kanupatar> please help me
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> !root| kanupatar
[10:30] <ikonia> kanupatar: ubuntu is built on the sudo model
[10:30] <ikonia> kanupatar: you should not be setting the root password
[10:30] <popokpou> ok, gaelf
[10:30] <gaelfx> popokpou: '/' should need more than 20gb, but 40gb is not a bad idea if you have the space
[10:30] <magpie> what he said BRIGHT or you could  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg   and then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:31] <gaelfx> *shouldn't need more than 20gb
[10:31] <kanupatar> ikonia: how can i login as root in command line?
[10:31] <popokpou> so 40G to home and double RAM to swap
[10:31] <[flux]> http://twitter.com/CaughtInFlux/status/221188902365569025/photo/1
[10:31] <[flux]> gaelfx: ^
[10:31] <[flux]> :D
[10:31] <zhoumao> How to display the shortcut on the desktop?
[10:31] <ikonia> kanupatar: you don't need to login as root at the command line
[10:31] <magpie> kanupatar   su -     and then type your password
[10:31] <iceroot> gaelfx: and what is a good default for / and /home?
[10:31] <LjL> magpie: that won't work.
[10:31] <ikonia> kanupatar: you login as an unprivileged user and then use sudo to execute root commands
[10:31] <iceroot> gaelfx: as you see there is no good default and you are always wasting space
[10:31] <ikonia> !sudo | kanupatar
[10:31] <magpie> Ljl  what wont work?
[10:32] <LjL> magpie: what you just said, "su -" to login as root. the root account is locked, so that isn't going to work. you need sudo.
[10:32] <kanupatar> magpie: auth failure
[10:32] <kanupatar> magpie: it is not taking my password
[10:32] <kanupatar> su -
[10:32] <ikonia> kanupatar: it won't
[10:32] <ikonia> kanupatar: please stop trying to "su" or login as root
[10:32] <magpie> oh yeah
[10:32] <magpie> :)
[10:32] <kanupatar> ikonia: ok
[10:32] <ikonia> kanupatar: read the links ubottu gave you
[10:32] <LjL> kanupatar: if you need to execute several commands in a row as root for some reason, you can run "sudo -i". remember to "exit" when you're done.
[10:32] <magpie> kanupatar
[10:32] <bright> thanks magpie
[10:32] <magpie> i forgot the sudo
[10:32] <magpie> sudo su -
[10:32] <magpie> then password
[10:32] <FloodBot1> magpie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <kanupatar> so all users have sudo access?
[10:32] <ikonia> magpie: no
[10:33] <ikonia> please don't execute that
[10:33] <derpderpwut> Hi. Wanted to install ubuntu on an ASUS laptop as I have up until now only ran it in virtual environments - however the ASUS laptop refuses to boot from the dvd. Any tips? :)
[10:33] <LjL> kanupatar: no, only those in the "admin" or "sudo" group (depending on Ubuntu version)
[10:33] <magpie> Bright is it fixed?
[10:33] <compdoc> kanupatar, no
[10:33] <joelperez> guys
[10:33] <gaelfx> iceroot: yeah, but I don't think hard drive space is an issue for most people nowadays, wasting a few GB to keep a separate /home and stop people from losing their data when they bonk something up, seems like a good compromise to me
[10:33] <joelperez> first time ubuntu user
[10:33] <magpie> what happened?
[10:33] <kanupatar> magpie: worked!
[10:33] <kanupatar> roo@
[10:33] <ikonia> kanupatar: do not do what magpie has advised you
[10:33] <joelperez> i installed an unsupported video driver
[10:33] <pranavk> i want to downgrade some pacakges on my ubuntu to older versions, i tried to install old ones but the prompt says that it has no installation candidate , how do i downgrade my packages with dependencies ?
[10:34] <kanupatar> ikonia: fight?
[10:34] <joelperez> messed up my pc
[10:34] <ikonia> kanupatar: is there a reason you are ignoring what is being told to you and just following what magpie is telling you despite him giving you incorrect information
[10:34] <joelperez> how do i roll back?
[10:34] <magpie> Kanupatar dont DO IT
[10:34] <ikonia> kanupatar: look at what LjL gave you
[10:34] <magpie> ont
[10:34] <magpie> dont
[10:34] <popokpou> that happened to me once, joelperez. in the end i had to reformat my computer
[10:34] <kanupatar> please
[10:34] <MrYair> whats up? :)
[10:34] <kanupatar> i am  a newbie
[10:34] <gogli>  echo "user_name ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD=ALL "  > /etc/sudoers   ...is this right to troll   ?
[10:34] <joelperez> i can get to the update menu
[10:34] <joelperez> ...
[10:35] <bright> magpie so i reconfigured it but nothing changed
[10:35] <LjL> kanupatar: "sudo -i" will do what you want, without needing baroque combinations of "sudo" and "su". most of the time you don't need it, though.
[10:35] <magpie> to everyone  im really sorry i thought that was the way to enter root
[10:35] <joelperez> is there a way to roll back on an unsupported driver?
[10:35] <magpie> Ljl is what i said the way to enter root?
[10:35] <iceroot> magpie: sudo command is the way
[10:35] <iceroot> magpie: there is no need for a root-shell
[10:36] <LjL> magpie: it works, but it's an awkward way. "sudo -i" and "sudo -s" are there for that.
[10:36] <magpie> i thought that was the only way, im really sorry people
[10:36] <kaffe> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a asus laptop, the install was successfull, and before installing i booted it live just to see if it worked, and it dit. After the install i couldnt boot up the system, when starting it the screen is just.. black.. Does anyone know why? and how to fix it?
[10:36] <LjL> magpie: no problem
[10:37] <kanupatar> so the installation user will have the root access
[10:37] <magpie> Ljl whats the difference? i tried them all and they all give me root privileges
[10:37] <pranavk> i want to downgrade some pacakges on my ubuntu to older versions, i tried to install old ones but the prompt says that it has no installation candidate , how do i downgrade my packages with dependencies ?
[10:37] <bright> x
[10:37] <magpie> Bright i have no idea, you are the second person today with the same problem
[10:37] <gogli> LjL  : i want to start a application or script after 15 minuter from startup .How can i do this
[10:37] <fschulze> hi! I got issues with grub. it starts booing up, but I drop into initramfs and it says it can't mount the boot device "device not found". I tried with the UUID and /dev/sda1. The weird thing is, that the initramfs console doesn't take keyboard input, the whole keyboard seems to be dead at that point.
[10:38] <kanupatar> installation user will have the root access in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:38] <LjL> magpie, to be honest i'm not really aware of big downsides of chaining "sudo" and "su". it's just that you're basically using two commands that do similar things, when there's no reason for that, since "sudo" alone is perfectly capable of reaching root
[10:38] <LjL> kanupatar: yes, it will be in the admin/sudo group
[10:38] <kanupatar> so to add a user
[10:38] <kanupatar> addusr new ?
[10:38] <LjL> kanupatar: to add a user the best way is probably to use the GUI, since that will set up groups and everything
[10:39] <LjL> kanupatar: but the CLI way is "sudo adduser username", then you need to add it to the various groups you need with "sudo adduser username groupname"
[10:39] <gaelfx> [flux]: I'm in China, so I can't check twitter :(
[10:39] <[flux]> oh
[10:39] <[flux]> Sucks
[10:39] <dappermuis>  I installed the latest updates yesterday and after a restart by screen resolution has gone bad. The maximum resolution I used to get was 1920x1080 but now I can only get 1680x1050 - any ideas?
[10:39] <magpie> ikonia i didnt give him wrong information, try what i said (sudo su -) it will give you root privileges, i was told so in ubuntu forums therefore itsnt incorrect, it just happens to be another way to take root privileges
[10:40] <gaelfx> [flux]: at least I can still use Linux here though :D
[10:40] <kanupatar> i have added a user in cmd like addusr new
[10:40] <kanupatar> how can i add it into suoers?
[10:40] <[flux]> gaelfx: Lol if they banned that you'd have to sneak out thr country.
[10:40] <gogli> kanupatar:" useradd new_user_name"   after that hit enter , it will ask for UNIX password ,just fill the specifications and voila .You have your user
[10:41] <magpie> popokpou are you here?
[10:41] <gaelfx> [flux]: we're already on our way out, just need a Visa for the wife. Then I might be able to convince HER to use Linux as well :D
[10:41] <oCean> [flux], gaelfx, please stop the offtopic
[10:41] <popokpou> still here, magpie
[10:41] <LjL> kanupatar: "sudo adduser username sudo", if you're on 12.04
[10:42] <popokpou> have you got something for me?
[10:42] <magpie> he is not offtopic, the missus visa requires linux usage
[10:42] <magpie> popokpou no just checking
[10:42] <gaelfx> magpie: don't defend, it was ot
[10:42] <popokpou> gotta wait an hour or so to clean my usb drive to backup
[10:42] <magpie> hehe
[10:42] <gaelfx> popokpou: I'm guessing that's USB1.0 you're using?
[10:43] <popokpou> gaelfx, probably
[10:43] <magpie> drink some more wine mate, that will make time fly
[10:43] <gogli> Am i blocked or just ignored ?
[10:43] <gogli>  LjL  : i want to start a application or script after 15 minuter from startup .How can i do this 	
[10:43] <popokpou> i gotta be careful i don't get too drunk, i can't afford to muckup my backup!
[10:43] <gaelfx> popokpou: you should consider getting a USB3.0 pci card, if you can add it to your system, they FLY :D
[10:44] <popokpou> i'm on an old windows machine here, gaelfx
[10:44] <popokpou> i got super fast usb on my laptop
[10:44] <popokpou> (ubuntu laptop)
[10:44] <gaelfx> popokpou: ah, that would explain the old ATI card then :P
[10:44] <gogli> gaelfx: am i blocked ?
[10:44] <popokpou> nope, the ATI card was on the laptop
[10:44] <magpie> gogli you are not they probably dont know the answer
[10:45] <gaelfx> gogli: no, but I'm guessing no one knows the answer to your question, so they haven't answered ;)
[10:45] <magpie> i installed an ssd and i can verify that my laptop with xubuntu runs pretty damn fast
[10:45] <gogli> magpie: gaelfx  : O ! thank god , i'm not blocked ...thanks for answering me
[10:46] <wmp> hello, after last upgrade ubuntu 12.04 i havent sound
[10:46] <magpie> gogli google ubuntu timer apps and maybe you will find something
[10:46] <gaelfx> magpie: out of curiosity, do you know which controller chipset it uses? is it sandforce?
[10:46] <magpie> what about gaelfx?
[10:46] <LjL> gogli: cron can run stuff at reboot. but i don't think it can run it n minutes *after* reboot. so you would need to combine cron with a timer script.
[10:46] <mz|`> wmp: do you have the modules installed and loaded ? 'lsmod | grep snd' ?
[10:46] <wmp> yes
[10:47] <mz|`> wmp: do you have pulseaudio packages ?
[10:47] <gaelfx> magpie: the ssd you have? or could you tell me the manufacturer etc?
[10:47] <mz|`> mmh
[10:47] <wmp> mz|`: yes
[10:47] <mz|`> routing issue maybe
[10:47] <popokpou> the text-only alternative installs, are they also live cds?
[10:47] <gogli> ok ! guys .Let me goggle .
[10:47] <mz|`> all right in the sound/audiio manager ?
[10:47] <magpie> mz i think his problem might be that ubuntu and the rest ditros keep changing tha audio driver from default to the hdmi output
[10:47] <wmp> mz|`: yes
[10:47] <mz|`> magpie: good catch
[10:47] <magpie> thats what mine does
[10:47] <wmp> i have default stereo
[10:48] <wmp> hdmi is disabled
[10:48] <magpie> go to sound and check which one is selected
[10:48] <magpie> ok so the sound card is enabled to play?
[10:48] <gaelfx> popokpou: not sure, but why do you want to use the alternative installer?
[10:48] <wmp> yes
[10:48] <wmp> (i have kde)
[10:48] <magpie> gaelfx its an ocz i think
[10:48] <popokpou> gaelfx, i also use LVM envryption
[10:48] <magpie> ocz 60gb
[10:48] <gaelfx> popokpou: ah, nice
[10:48] <popokpou> i'm going to find out now anyway
[10:49] <Bendude> could i get some help, iv just installed 12.04 on my netbook, its started up to somthing that "to me" looks like a command line. and from googleing it appears the solution at least starts with "sudo lightdm restart" but when i try that it just spits out "/bin/sh: sudo: not found" ...any help?
[10:49] <wmp> Bendude: run ubuntu in recovery mode
[10:50] <gaelfx> magpie: the reason I ask is that on my next machine I want to use an SSD also, but I've heard there are some issues with the sandforce controllers
[10:50] <magpie> wmp  check this thread  they solved it     http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-multimedia-entertainment/142121-solved-no-sound-kubuntu.html
[10:50] <wmp> set root option and run: apt-get install sudo
[10:50] <[flux]> Hmm, no drivers for GMA?
[10:50] <[flux]> Ubuntu not showing huh huger resolutions.
[10:50] <wmp> magpie: 2009 year, searsly? In my notebook its problems with audio
[10:50] <Bendude> how do i start up in recovery mode?
[10:51] <magpie> gaelfx  i know that ssd have problems when you start filling them with apps music etc etc so i kept my previous hdd as an external one and the ssd is only running xubuntu nothing else
[10:51] <wmp> Bendude: in grub you have option for this
[10:51] <popokpou> bendude, load up grub
[10:51] <magpie> wmp i didnt chek the date sorry mate
[10:51] <gaelfx> Bendude: hold shift when you turn the computer on
[10:51] <popokpou> hold down shift when booting up to get to grub
[10:51] <[flux]> *higher
[10:51] <Bendude> thanks
[10:51] <giulia27> hello. Is there any channel to chat about a software from English to Italian ? The software is in qt4 and is called MedInTux
[10:52] <magpie> wmp have tried alsamixer in the konsole?
[10:52] <wmp> in alsamixer i have all good
[10:53] <gaelfx> magpie: yeah, my plan is to run / on ssd, everything else on hdd
[10:53]  * gaelfx knows better than to put swap on a limited writes drive
[10:54] <magpie> gaelfx that would be best otherwise it will die in two years time
[10:54] <magpie> wmp  here is 2012 thread    http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58550-No-sound-in-KUBUNTU-12-04
[10:54] <wmp> gaelfx: if you have too big money...
[10:54] <magpie> wmp = war-military-police?
[10:54] <wmp> no ;)
[10:54] <magpie> :)
[10:54] <gaelfx> wmp: what's your sound card?
[10:54] <magpie> ssd arent that expensive
[10:54] <magpie> i  bought mine 47 euros
[10:55] <wmp> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[10:55] <magpie> hit alsamixer  and then  f6
[10:55] <wmp> i live in Polen, and sdd cost too big ;)
[10:55] <magpie> have you tried that?
[10:55] <wmp> magpie: yes, i have 2 soundcard
[10:56] <wmp> on first (hdmi) i have nothing interesed
[10:56] <wmp> on second i have all good
[10:56] <gaelfx> wmp: have you tried plugging in the HDMI and seeing if sound is coming out there?
[10:56] <magpie> on konsole alsamixer then F6 and it gives me 3 choices  1) default  2) HDA intel  3) HD audio generic
[10:57] <wmp> gaelfx: i can try this
[10:57] <magpie> wmp is it the same ?
[10:57] <wmp> magpie: yes
[10:57] <magpie> wmp no matter which one you choose you still dont have sound?
[10:57] <brohan> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu 12.04 kernel (3.2 and such) have fixed the regressions in iwlwifi? I'd like N network access...
[10:57] <gaelfx> brohan: that really depends on what wireless nic you're using
[10:58] <magpie> wmp did you check the thread (2012) i send you? found anything useful ?
[10:58] <kiamo> when trying to start x from the command line, I get, screens found, but none have a usable config.  And then, Fatal error: no screens found.  Does this indicate that my xorg.conf is inadequate?
[10:58] <albatros73> ciao
[10:58] <albatros73> !list
[10:58] <daptordarattler> magpie
[10:58] <magpie> daptor?
[10:59] <gogli> gaelfx: magpie :done ! thanks guys
[10:59] <zax> trying to get wifi working no luck so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2016772
[10:59] <gaelfx> gogli: congrats, what did you end up using?
[10:59] <Bendude> i'v tryed holding shift and it just starts into "busybox" not grub ...sorry im prity unfamiliar with this level of things
[10:59] <daptordarattler> magpie: sorry been scheduling a meeting
[10:59] <magpie> its ok mate
[10:59] <daptordarattler> where is popo?
[10:59] <daptordarattler> did he fix it?
[10:59] <wmp> hmmm, on hdmi i havent audio ;)
[11:00] <gogli> gaelfx: simple sleep time_second && command in startup application
[11:00] <magpie> no he couldnt, i gave him a few hints to reinstall xorg-xserver etc
[11:00] <Dr_willis> i had to twiddle with the pulse audio settings/tools to get hdmi audio selected here
[11:00] <magpie> we wanted you to verify them as plausible options
[11:00] <gaelfx> gogli: seems elegant enough a solution, cool :D
[11:00] <brohan> gaelfx: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030. Do you know if they've fixed N regressions in it?
[11:00] <gogli> gaelfx: yup !
[11:01] <gaelfx> wmp: did hdmi audio ever work for you?
[11:01] <wmp> yes
[11:01] <gaelfx> wmp: in Ubuntu?
[11:01] <wmp> i must install kernel 3.3 but hdmi audio work
[11:01] <magpie> Dr_Willis i too have Built in Audio as default since HDMI wont give any sound.... is that ok???
[11:01] <gaelfx> er Kubuntu or whatever
[11:01] <wmp> gaelfx: yes ;)
[11:01] <daptordarattler> magpie: hmm ok
[11:02] <gaelfx> wmp: ah, did you install a backports kernel?
[11:02] <wmp> 3.3.0-030300-generic #201203182135
[11:02] <tuff> hi
[11:02] <wmp> maybe this is form backports
[11:02] <gaelfx> wmp: have you installed the alsa backports?
[11:03] <magpie> daptor my Cedar HDMI Audio Radeon is of since it wont produce any sound therefore default is Built-In-Audio.. Is that what i should be using or find a way to change it?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> magpie,  i have both. with some twiddling i have HDMI working now on my nvidia card
[11:03] <magpie> Dr_Willis thanks for answering
[11:03] <gogli> is their any anime mail client who dance/(any action) when my mail come ?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> magpie,  if you got the other working.. is it woth the effort to  change it?
[11:03] <magpie> So which one should i be using?
[11:03] <magpie> Dr-Willis im not sure, should i ?
[11:04] <ikonia> gogli: not really no, anime mail clients don't really exist. If you mean animations, there are things like notifications in the task bar when mail comes in
[11:04] <wmp> gaelfx: i havent this package in repos, and i havent installed it
[11:04] <gaelfx> wmp: it's ok, I have no reason to think it would work, was just guessing
[11:05] <wmp> ;)
[11:05] <wmp> i think i shoud downgrade alsa packages
[11:05] <gaelfx> wmp: and you did lsmod | grep snd and snd-hda-intel showed up?
[11:05] <wmp> yes
[11:05] <gogli> ikonia : i watch a movie in which a boy have a animated mail client : )
[11:06] <daptordarattler> Maggie: dont have much insight on audio drivers
[11:06] <ikonia> gogli: contact him and ask him what he's using
[11:06] <daptordarattler> magpie: in my experience wat comes from ubunut is always best just needs some little tweaks in the config file
[11:06] <daptordarattler> or alsamixer
[11:06] <gaelfx> wmp: ok, last thing, and I know it's a stupid question to ask, but you're sure the correct audio device is selected in your Sound Settings?
[11:07] <wmp> yes
[11:07] <gaelfx> wmp: have you tried selecting a different kernel when you start up and see if that works?
[11:07] <gogli> gaelfx: ask wmp for paste his sound setting
[11:07] <gaelfx> gogli: that wouldn't be very useful for me, since I can't really read those things that well :P
[11:08] <gogli> gaelfx: ok ! : )
[11:08] <wmp> gaelfx: this isn't good idea, becouse on this kernel all work for long time
[11:09] <gaelfx> wmp: yeah, but it would help in identifying the issue. all you have to do is start up the machine and hold shift until grub shows up, then select an older kernel and see if it gets your audio back
[11:10] <gaelfx> wmp: if it does, then we have some idea about how to solve the problem, if not, you restart into the kernel you're using now, nothing lost
[11:10] <wmp> ok, give me minute ;)
[11:10] <gogli> ikonia : Can i move my dash board(unity) to right hand of yours
[11:10] <ikonia> gogli: I'm not sure,
[11:10] <gogli> ikonia : ok !
[11:12] <gogli> is every system have buffer .if so, how can see that memory space (of buffer)for a particular device ?
[11:13] <ikonia> gogli: if you type "free" you'll see the memory that is in use
[11:13] <gaelfx> is there a command that can show a list of the most recently installed packages?
[11:14] <gogli> ikonia : i'm asking for buffer of each device
[11:14] <ikonia> gogli: there is no buffer for each device
[11:14] <kiamo> what alternatives are there to nouveau?
[11:14] <ikonia> gogli: memory is managed at a system level
[11:14] <melkor> When I move the mouse to the top right corner of the screen, it exposes all of the running programs. How can make that activated in different corners?
[11:15] <melkor> er right now it is the top left.
[11:15] <wmp> on 3.2 kernel udio dont work, i go back to 3.3
[11:16] <Bendude> how do i open a folder as root so i can edit stuff?
[11:16] <ikonia> Bendude: what do you want to edit ?
[11:16] <ikonia> (as in what file system)
[11:16] <Bendude> syslinux.cfg in the boot folder
[11:16] <gogli> ikonia : Suppose i have  2 keyboard .and gave some input from each keyboard .Is both keyboard don't have different buffer ?
[11:17] <ikonia> gogli: no
[11:17] <fluffyguy> Guys I just ran rkhunter and got 4 warnings, if anyone has time (and knowledge) pls check part of log. http://pastebin.com/tE6Un5CD
[11:17] <ikonia> gogli: they are input devices
[11:17] <ikonia> fluffyguy: do you have reason to suspect you have a root kit ?
[11:18] <fluffyguy> Well lets say I´ve experianced some crashing
[11:18] <ikonia> fluffyguy: that wouldn't suggest a root kit to me
[11:18] <ikonia> fluffyguy: what sort of crashes ?
[11:18] <fluffyguy> nothing much (mostly openbox /lxpanel )
[11:19] <gogli> !rkhunter
[11:19] <ikonia> fluffyguy: that would suggest an instability with you video card more than it would suggest a rootkit
[11:19] <fluffyguy> I doubt someone will target me (UFW is on ,all ports expect torent are closed)
[11:19] <ikonia> fluffyguy: unless you have reason to believe you have a root kit, don't go looking for one, tools such as rkhunter are a waste of time, look at what it's reporting on "rkit was added to the password file" - yes of course it was, the rkhunter application adds it, so it's calling itself a root kit, it's worthless
[11:20] <fluffyguy> oke ikonia ,then those warnings in rkhunter.log are nothing to worry about
[11:20] <ikonia> fluffyguy: I would class the output you pasted as wrothless
[11:20] <gogli> wao !  ikonia is on fire .cool down
[11:20] <fluffyguy> And how would YOU search for rootkits?
[11:20] <ikonia> gogli: please stop that sort of thing,
[11:21] <ikonia> fluffyguy: I'd have a suspect of a problem, and then invetigate that problem
[11:21] <ikonia> fluffyguy: hence why I'm saying unless you have a reason to suggest you have a root kit running, don't go looking for one
[11:21] <wmp> I dont understand, now i have audio... interested
[11:21] <fluffyguy> Im still on windows mentality ... Firewall,AV,anti spyware...
[11:21] <fluffyguy> Sorry :D
[11:21] <ikonia> fluffyguy: no need to apologise.
[11:21] <gogli> wmp : awesome , enjoy the music then
[11:22] <fluffyguy> well due to my old (and not supported anymore ) video card... I think Ill just live with lxpanel and openbox crashings
[11:23] <gaelfx> wmp: success! :D
[11:23] <ikonia> fluffyguy: you've half answered your own question
[11:23] <wmp> ;)
[11:23] <fluffyguy> Yea it seems like it ikonia
[11:23] <ikonia> fluffyguy: you have an old unsupported card, and you have graphical components crashing......
[11:23] <popokpou> hey guys, how do i mount my harddrive from a livecd?
[11:23] <fluffyguy> MS paranoid mentality :)
[11:23] <gaelfx> wmp: you've experienced what I like to call a hiccup. happens to all of us, no worries
[11:23] <ikonia> fluffyguy: rootkit/graphics card problem....which sounds most realisitc
[11:24] <gogli> fluffyguy: what is rootkit and why are you using this ?
[11:24] <gaelfx> popokpou: it should show up in nautilus, just click it to mount it
[11:24] <fluffyguy> gogli you misunderstood my first question
[11:24] <wmp> this is oddly
[11:24] <popokpou> i'm not using an ubuntu livecd, all i have is a backtrack live cd
[11:24] <popokpou> all my ubuntu cd's are text-only/alternative installs
[11:25] <fluffyguy> ikonia is explaining me that Im having issues with my graphic card and Im panicking for nothing ( which is true)
[11:25] <popokpou> i need to mount the harddriev so i can back it up before i reinstall
[11:25] <ikonia> fluffyguy: out of interest what type of video card is it ?
[11:25] <fluffyguy> popkpu google ubuntu force mount
[11:25] <popokpou> ok, thanks fluffyguy
[11:25] <fluffyguy> ikonia ATi Radeon x1050 agp (RV350 chip inside)
[11:25] <gogli> fluffyguy: i'm just asking .i don't know what is rootkit and for what purpose you are using i. Can you ad this to my knowledge
[11:25] <ikonia> fluffyguy: what desktop (gnome/etc) are you using
[11:25] <fluffyguy> LXDE (Lubuntu 12.04)
[11:26] <Ricaz> Hey :) I need some help fixing my sister's Ubuntu. It broke during an update from 11.10 to 12.x. I can boot into the GNOME login thing, but when I log in, the screen goes blank for a minute and then it goes back to the login screen.
[11:26] <ikonia> fluffyguy: suggestion, hardcode your xorg.conf file to use the "vesa" xorg driver, it's not a native hardware accelerated driver, but it's a stable fallback driver, see if that improves stability
[11:26] <gaelfx> Ricaz: can you login in terminal?
[11:26] <ikonia> fluffyguy: maybe a good idea to see how much of an issue the ati component is
[11:26] <Ricaz> If I can just do a clean 'install' from within ubuntu so she keeps all her files, that would be great, but I dunno how
[11:26] <Ricaz> gaelfx yes
[11:27] <gaelfx> Ricaz: did you check dmesg for errors?
[11:27] <Ricaz> well not in the gnome-terminal, but on another screen
[11:27] <Ricaz> no
[11:27] <fluffyguy> ikonia problem is there is no xorg.conf anymore in this newer releases
[11:27] <ikonia> fluffyguy: you can create one
[11:27] <ikonia> fluffyguy: xorg.conf will override the autodetection
[11:27] <fluffyguy> Last time this card worked perrfectly on ubuntu 8.04
[11:27] <gaelfx> Ricaz: check dmesg for errors, let us know if you see anything interesting
[11:27] <ikonia> fluffyguy: hence using xorg.conf to force the vesa module
[11:27] <fluffyguy> even 3D
[11:28] <ikonia> fluffyguy: different kernel, different ati support
[11:28] <Ricaz> gaelfx how do I check it for errors?
[11:28] <fluffyguy> yea ... Honestly Im too "green" to mess with xorg.conf
[11:28] <fluffyguy> Id do mor eharm than good
[11:28] <gaelfx> Ricaz: just type dmesg
[11:29] <ikonia> fluffyguy: are you sure there is no xorg.conf while you're using the ati component "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:29] <gaelfx> Ricaz: or dmesg | tail if you just want the last few lines of it
[11:29] <kanupatar> what is the command for updating the time from network then?
[11:29] <fluffyguy> ikonia yes ,gimme sec
[11:29] <noel82> hi
[11:29] <ikonia> kanupatar: ntpdate
[11:29] <ikonia> kanupatar: or use the ntpd daemon
[11:29] <Nillerz> Hey, I updated my kernel to 3.4.4, now Jockey can't install Broadcom proprietary drivers
[11:30] <ikonia> Nillerz: that kernel hasn't been released for ubuntu
[11:30] <Ricaz> gaelfx yeah, LOTS of text, at the bottom it says "gnome-settings-[1375]: segfault at 144 ip 00b26b0 sp bfb35ef0 error 4 in libc-2.15.so[83e000+19f000]"
[11:30] <Nillerz> ikonia, yeah I know, but is there a way to make my broadcom chipset work anyway?
[11:30] <ikonia> Nillerz: you've just broke compatability, and using an unsupported kernel, you should have an idea of how to get these things workiung
[11:30] <yatta> hello
[11:30] <ikonia> Nillerz: why did you update the kernel ?
[11:30] <fluffyguy> ikonia http://tinypic.com/r/34oshtw/6
[11:31] <gogli> Ricaz: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:31] <Nillerz> I needed to update in order to avoid the crazy amount of crashes I had for no apparent reason
[11:31] <gaelfx> Ricaz: ok, could you make a new user and try to login with that user?
[11:31] <ikonia> fluffyguy: annoying you'd have to create one
[11:31] <Ricaz> right.. okay
[11:31] <ikonia> Nillerz: why did you think updating the kernel to an unsupported kernel would fix these random issues
[11:31] <Nillerz> see this bug on Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[11:31] <ikonia> Nillerz: what made you think they are kernel related problems
[11:32] <fluffyguy> and like I said Im just too "green" for that and actually system is working quite fine (only those crashes are a bit annoying)
[11:32] <Nillerz> the only "X worked" in that entire bug report is the one where he updated his kernel.
[11:33] <ikonia> Nillerz: yes, 3.3.6 was the fix he suggested
[11:33] <ikonia> Nillerz: you appear to have used a totally different and random kernel branch
[11:33] <Nillerz> Does the driver exist for 3.3.6?
[11:33] <ikonia> Nillerz: and looking at that bug report, it's random people offering random advice, some usint nvidia, some using intel etc, there doesn't appear to be much logic behind it from what I'm reading
[11:33] <Guest37816> i have problem with watching youtube videos it's laggy and slow tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987116 didn't work for me
[11:34] <Nillerz> right but the guy who filed the report claims that updating the kernel worked.
[11:34] <Nillerz> and so far, in the several hours since I've updated, there have been no crashes.
[11:34] <Guest37816> also how to uninstall apps from wine tricks?
[11:34] <fluffyguy> Well Im off ,thanks ikonia for your time.
[11:35] <ikonia> Nillerz: yes, and he suggested a tottally different kernel than the one you've used
[11:35] <Nillerz> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php/ according to the Broadcom website, their driver is agnostic to the actual kernel being ran
[11:35] <ikonia> fluffyguy: no problem, please try to keep in mind the possability of testing hte vesa xorg driver
[11:35] <fluffyguy> ikonia : Will do ,bye
[11:35] <Ricaz> gaelfx I can't login with the new user either
[11:35] <Guest37816> and my boot time is long
[11:35] <Ricaz> gaelfx the screen flashes and returns to login screen
[11:36] <gaelfx> Ricaz: have you tried using a LiveCD or LiveUSB? Does it work on there?
[11:36] <gogli>  General type of mail configuration:              No configuration     ;  Internet Site  ;      Internet with smarthost    ;  Satellite system ;   Local only            ............When i'm installing rkhunter , i stuck in this options .Can any one explain me what are this option for ?
[11:36] <ikonia> gogli: you should know what you are doing
[11:36] <ikonia> gogli: as I said to fluffy do not use rkhunter
[11:37] <gogli> ikonia : thats why i'm asking
[11:37] <Ricaz> gaelfx also, in the options dropdown in the login screen, i can choose "Recovery Console", "Ubuntu 2D" and "User defined session". When I choose recovery, it gives me a terminal window (with no borders etc., just a black box)
[11:37] <ikonia> gogli: it is a waste of time and will provide false results, don't go looking for rootkits unless you have reason to believe there is a problem
[11:37] <Ricaz> gaelfx no, I haven't tried that
[11:37] <Ricaz> Is it impossible to fix it from within ubuntu?
[11:37] <gogli> ikonia : ok , i will but please explain this mail confgiguration to me
[11:38] <ikonia> gogli: you don't need the mail configuration if you are not using rkhunter
[11:38] <ikonia> gogli: so you don't need to worry about it
[11:38] <gaelfx> Ricaz: shouldn't be impossbile, I was just wondering because if the LiveCD/USB doesn't work, then it might be an issue with 12.04 not working on your hardware, but maybe we should save that for later
[11:38] <gogli> ikonia : please ,i'm begging you
[11:38] <ikonia> gogli: press cancel so the package doesn't install, that's what you need
[11:38] <gogli> ikonia : i want to know what are they for
[11:38] <gaelfx> Ricaz: one thing you could try to do is reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <Ricaz> gaelfx i think the problem is in gnome / unity
[11:38] <ikonia> gogli: they are for different types of mail server setups, you are running non of them, so don't need to worry
[11:39] <Ricaz> yeah? how? :D
[11:39] <gaelfx> Ricaz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <gogli> ikonia : what is smarthost ?
[11:39] <ikonia> gogli: a mail config you are not running
[11:39] <gaelfx> lol
[11:40] <Guest37816> how to associate py files with Python IDLE?
[11:40] <gogli> ikonia : please !   i'm going to cry now
[11:40] <ikonia> gogli: then I suggest you start crying. Look this channel is for ubuntu help - not "please tell me random linux things because I don't want to research"
[11:41] <ikonia> gogli: people have tried to guide you but you just ignore it and carry on, I suggest you look at more generic linux channels such as "##linux"
[11:41] <gaelfx> is there a command to view the history of installed packages? like which packages were installed when?
[11:42] <ikonia> gaelfx: the dpkg log is a quick read
[11:42] <gaelfx> ikonia: which way would you view in cli?
[11:42] <popokpou> what is a nice quick way to backup all my files onto a usb harddrive from the command line?
[11:42] <ikonia> gaelfx: cat it, more it, vi it, grep for the package
[11:42] <ikonia> popokpou: cp $FILES /path/to/usb
[11:43] <gaelfx> ikonia: ok, sorry, but where is that file?
[11:43] <ikonia> gaelfx: /var/log I think
[11:43] <popokpou> so, $cp /home /usb
[11:43] <Ricaz> gaelfx I found a way to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and all it dependencies, so I will try that :)
[11:44] <gaelfx> Ricaz: good, be sure and let us know if it works or not
[11:44] <gaelfx> ikonia: thanks
[11:44] <Ricaz> gaelfx I will
[11:45]  * Guest37816 waits
[11:45] <miss_ubuntu_> hi guys constant high cpu by init and dbus-daemon ,plz  help , http://paste2.org/p/2067111
[11:45] <revol0xf> gaelfx: yes, its /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:45] <ikonia> miss_ubuntu_: init is using up just as much cpu
[11:46] <miss_ubuntu_> ikonia gaelfx  hi guys constant high cpu by init and dbus-daemon ,can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot? , http://paste2.org/p/2067111
[11:46] <ikonia> miss_ubuntu_: something is passing work to dbus, I'd suspect that is the problem rather than dbus
[11:46] <miss_ubuntu_> ikonia how do i know what is passing work to dbus?
[11:46] <gaelfx> revol0xf: thanks :D
[11:47] <ikonia> miss_ubuntu_: have a dig around
[11:47] <rns> what's the best 14 inch laptop for ubuntu?
[11:47] <r00t_> Hey guys. I am wanting to modify my ubuntu installation to act more like TAILS (in terms of ram wiping and ALL connecions going through tor) Does anyone know if anyone else has tried this?
[11:47] <revol0xf> gaelfx: you're welcome
[11:47] <miss_ubuntu_> mike_sun_ j0hnsm1th r00t_ morsnowski ikonia how do i check why dbus daemon is eating my CPU http://paste2.org/p/2067111
[11:48] <morsnowski> miss_ubuntu_, please don't multicast to strangers
[11:48] <gogli> gaelfx: bro ! i think #linux is not for me.People where fighting each other and use slang words .I want to stay here : )
[11:48] <miss_ubuntu_> morsnowski ok
[11:48] <justiner3> miss_ubuntu_: open terminal and type "rm -f /"
[11:48] <miss_ubuntu_> justiner3 thanks i am not stupid :D
[11:49] <justiner3> yes you are
[11:49] <justiner3> lol
[11:49] <miss_ubuntu_> justiner3 u should be banned :)
[11:49] <gogli> miss_ubuntu_: justiner3 : please stop this nonsense here .
[11:50] <j0hnsm1th> miss_ubuntu_, i have no clue, im noob
[11:50] <miss_ubuntu_> gogli ok
[11:50]  * Guest37816 waits some more
[11:50] <fuzz> sup
[11:50] <oCean> Guest37816: you have asked 3 different questions, what are you exactly waiting for?
[11:51] <Guest37816> answers?
[11:51] <oCean> Guest37816: constant /me posts will not help. Just have some patience and repeat your question in, say 15 minutes
[11:51] <Guest37816> oh ok
[11:51] <miss_ubuntu_> Question : how do i diagnose processes with high cpu? e.g dbus-daemon , ptree throws exception , pman doesn't show anything
[11:52] <gogli> oCean: a simple question , how to set vlc to set "Always on top " for every its instance
[11:52] <makara> hi. VLC kills my system when I open a WMV. What to use? And also, how can Linux let an application do that? I thought it was so stable.
[11:52] <miss_ubuntu_> gogli use this http://askubuntu.com/questions/100231/how-to-set-always-on-top-on-vlc-by-default
[11:53] <bindi> can I use netcat to download a stream and re-host it locally? I want my server to handle all the bandwidth, and the client just has to stream once to the server
[11:54] <bindi> or something
[11:54] <miss_ubuntu_> Question : what r tools for proess check  other than ptree pman ... any1?
[11:54] <oCean> miss_ubuntu_: the ps command. It has lots of options (see the manual page) for example   ps axuww
[11:56] <miss_ubuntu_> oCean thanks
[11:58] <miss_ubuntu_> Q what does this mean? /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback
[11:59] <popokpou> can you monut a harddrive from a livecd if the harddrive has LVM encryption?
[12:02] <Dr_willis> miss_ubuntu_,  looks like 3 seperate commands to me.
[12:02] <OerHeks> popokpou you can, according to this howto >> http://zeldor.biz/2011/01/mount-lvm-from-livecd/
[12:02] <popokpou> thanks, oerheks
[12:03] <apsuva> distrowatch rank is true?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> apsuva,  disrtowatch rank just records the hits at the site..
[12:03] <OerHeks> apsuva, no, they count their downloads only
[12:03] <Dr_willis> so its true that its recording the hits at their site.. :)
[12:04] <miss_ubuntu_> welcome Dr_willis actually its ps -axuw|grep dbus . dbus daemon is eating my cpu
[12:04] <apsuva> Where can we know the real number of users.
[12:05] <oCean> apsuva: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter
[12:05] <apsuva> ok oCean tnx
[12:06] <Ricaz> gaelfx It reinstalled with some errors (there were some about some themes and icons missing), and I rebooted. Now it started but gives me a weird looking error (white text on bright background) which says my hardware couldn't be detected and it's running in "low graphics mode". Also, the cursor is an X and I can't click "OK".
[12:06] <popokpou> i'm having major problems. i had some kind of graphical problem, device driver problem, and the situation is that now when i try to boot it goes blackscreen. i have access to the root shell via recovery console, but i can't mount my home folder because its encrypted (and i can't remember my encryptofs-mount-private key)
[12:06] <popokpou> i need to backup my home directory, but i think its all lost now
[12:07] <Guest37816> i have problem with watching youtube videos it's laggy and slow tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987116 didn't work for me how to fix this?
[12:07] <Nillerz> ikonia, I just installed kernel 3.3.6, restarted into that kernel. I had the same exact problem I had in 3.4.4 in the exact same way
[12:08] <popokpou> i've been in here for an hour or more trying to fix up the graphical problems, but nothing has worked, so forget that... i need to backup my system otherwise i'll lose very important files (including my bitcoin wallet)
[12:08] <ikonia> Nillerz: again, that's not an official kernel
[12:08] <popokpou> any suggestions?
[12:08] <ikonia> popokpou: backup your files then
[12:08] <ikonia> popokpou: what's stopping you ?
[12:08] <popokpou> if i backup the home directory, its encrypted, how do i access it?
[12:09] <ikonia> popokpou: this is going to be a lot of hassle, why did you encypt ??? is it really that secret ?
[12:09] <popokpou> you know how when you install it says "do you want to encrypt your home directory" and you click yes? and then get a really long password
[12:09] <Nillerz> I know, a non-official kernel is a non-official kernel, but it's at least somewhat better because guess what? I haven't had the same graphical crash. If anyone can help me get Broadcom-sta up and running on this kernel, I'd be very appreciative.
[12:09] <ikonia> popokpou: the encryption wiki gives the info
[12:09] <ikonia> !encyription
[12:09] <popokpou> what encryption wiki
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !encrypt
[12:10] <popokpou> okay, thanks, thats a start. i can't afford to lose a grand's worth of bitcoin
[12:10] <ikonia> thank you Dr_willis
[12:10] <Dr_willis> i never encrypt home :) i just see too many hassles about it in here.
[12:10] <OerHeks> popokpou, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory/#Recovering_Your_Mount_Passphrase
[12:10] <Dr_willis> if the sytem still boots. you could backup the info via the clo
[12:10] <popokpou> i don't think i'll bother encrypting it anymore either
[12:10] <OerHeks> ah dr willis is so fast
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:12] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[12:13] <popokpou> i obtained the encrypted passphrase easy enough
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks
[12:16] <rymate1234> lol my friend is ubuntu noob
[12:16] <rymate1234> >the installer stopped! it must've failed!
[12:16] <gaelfx> Ricaz: hm, one step forward, two steps back, eh?
[12:16] <ikonia> why is this funny ?
[12:17] <Ricaz> gaelfx yes. I'm trying a dpkg-reconfigure now
[12:17] <gaelfx> Ricaz: when that's finished, if it doesn't work, could you pastebin lspci?
[12:18] <Ricaz> I will
[12:18] <bright> hello i get this problem Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[12:18] <Ricaz> I don't know it this is working, though, after I typed the command, it looks like it's working, but it's not printing anything.
[12:18] <bright> what is the matter
[12:18] <bright> ?
[12:19] <gaelfx> Ricaz: lspci lists nothing???
[12:20] <bright> can anyone help?: problem Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[12:20] <Ricaz> oh no no, dpkg did nothing
[12:20] <Ricaz> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:20] <gaelfx> Ricaz: whoa, ok :P
[12:21] <Ricaz> also, how do I paste it to pastebin with no browser? :P
[12:21] <gaelfx> Ricaz: I don't know if that normally outputs anything unless you include a verbose command or what
[12:21] <gaelfx> Ricaz: I believe you can use pastebinit, this machine does have an internet connection, right?
[12:21] <Ricaz> gaelfx yes
[12:22] <Ricaz> gaelfx so I have pastebinit now
[12:22] <gaelfx> Ricaz: then I think pastebinit > lspci  should work
[12:24] <Ricaz> gaelfx Okay, I did that, waiting for it to finish.. not printing anything either :p give me status messages!
[12:24] <gaelfx> is that the right way to give the output of one command as the input for another command?
[12:24] <Sicp> I have a Ubuntu 12.04 here and I've just installed Netbeans 7.1, I don't get anything when accessing the Plugins section of Netbeans..no catalog and no reloading capability. I strongly feel that this is somehow related to Ubuntu?
[12:24] <Sicp> I have it on my Arch and it's fine
[12:24] <Ricaz> gaelfx i don't know, I think so
[12:25] <Ricaz> what about | ?
[12:25] <Sicp> plus the menu bar on the top is always faded and it doesn't integrate back to the very top like all other applications, it's still within the Netbeans window
[12:25] <Ricaz> wait.. shouldnt it be the other way around? gaelfx
[12:25] <Guest37816> how to associate py files with Python IDLE?
[12:25] <Ricaz> lspci > pastebinit?
[12:25] <gaelfx> hang on
[12:27] <gaelfx> Ricaz: it's lspci | pastebinit
[12:27] <Ricaz> yeah i just figured it out :P
[12:27] <gaelfx> the old reverse psychology that one is
[12:27] <Ricaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077957
[12:28] <Ricaz> thats a neat little program btw
[12:28] <gaelfx> Ricaz: one of my favorites :D
[12:28] <gaelfx> Ricaz: there's also an all-text browser you can install, though I forgot the name of it
[12:28] <croz> anyone know a program that can dim my screen or put a shade over it so its not so damn bright?
[12:29] <Ricaz> gaelfx np, got it pasted
[12:29] <jpds> !info gtk-redshift | croz
[12:31] <gaelfx> Ricaz: Lynx is the name I believe. did you test if your dkpg-reconfigure worked or not?
[12:31] <Guest37816> also how to uninstall apps from wine tricks?
[12:32] <Ricaz> gaelfx i'll do a reboot
[12:32] <Ricaz> you gathered anything from the paste?
[12:32] <Ricaz> i should say it has worked perfectly on 11.10
[12:33] <gaelfx> Ricaz: not really, I thought it might be a graphics issue, but since that card is kind of old, and not one with proprietary drivers, I doubt it
[12:33] <gaelfx> Ricaz: here's another option: does your sister need to keep anything in /home?
[12:33] <Ricaz> gaelfx yes
[12:34] <gaelfx> Ricaz: I mean things like chatlogs or whatever?
[12:34] <Ricaz> gaelfx yeah, and images
[12:34] <Ricaz> music
[12:34] <Ricaz> I guess I could start it with a LiveUSB, extract all the stuff and reinstall completely
[12:35] <Ricaz> I wish there was a reinstall-ubuntu-to-latest-version-and-keep-home-folder command
[12:35] <popokpou> how do i copy everything on a usb to my harddrive?
[12:35] <popokpou> i tried $cp /media/external /home/BACKUPDIRECTORY
[12:35] <gaelfx> Ricaz: there sort of is, but you need to install the right way in the first place
[12:35] <popokpou> but it didn't work
[12:36] <Ricaz> gaelfx, so you'd recommend the full reinstall?
[12:36] <gaelfx> Ricaz: what I usually do is creat a separate '/home' partition so that when I reinstall a newer version, I don't lose /home
[12:36] <popokpou> i'm having to do a new reinstall too, after graphics issues arose for no reason
[12:36] <popokpou> really really annoying
[12:36] <Attie> popokpou: have you tried 'cp -R' ?
[12:36] <popokpou> what is the -R for, attie?
[12:36] <Attie> recursive
[12:36] <popokpou> does it grab all the files in the various directories?
[12:36] <popokpou> great thanks
[12:36] <gaelfx> Ricaz: chances are it'll be faster than whatever solution we *might* end up arriving at here
[12:36] <Attie> or a better (IMO) option is to tar it
[12:37] <Ricaz> popokpou you need to do it recursively :)
[12:37] <Ricaz> gaelfx yeah I guess so
[12:37] <Attie> tar -cavf ~/backup.tgz /media/external
[12:37] <popokpou> that seems to eb working, thanks guys
[12:37] <gaelfx> Ricaz: but when you do that, sometimes you need to get rid of older .config stuff to get things looking right
[12:37] <bretzel> Hi, I use google-chrome ( not chromium) (and firefox). google-chrome: at each 5 seconds, the browser freezes during 1 second then back to normal ( CPU @100% during freeze)
[12:38] <popokpou> does anyone know if just copy/pasting your virtualbox directories will allow you to restore them after a reformat?
[12:38] <popokpou> \i know its a question a bit off-topic
[12:38] <gaelfx> Ricaz: generally, it's not a great idea to update from one version to another as almost always something ends up broken
[12:38] <popokpou> but this is my primary concern given i have to reformat due to thses graphical issues
[12:38] <gaelfx> popokpou: it should be fine
[12:38] <popokpou> the word "should" scares me, gaelf
[12:38] <popokpou> i have a bitcoin wallet on a VM and if i lose it i'll cry
[12:38] <bretzel> The freeze does not happend on other distros I run. Only on Ubuntu* (and also on  mint13)
[12:38] <Ricaz> gaelfx lol I should've known that
[12:39] <Attie> popokou: vmware is fine, you just have to say 'moved' instead of 'copied' next time you power the vm on. I imagine vb is similar
[12:39] <popokpou> i'm using virtualbox
[12:39] <gaelfx> Ricaz: well, they offer to update via update manager, so it's not really your fault for thinking it would be ok
[12:39] <popokpou> ok. i hope so, attie
[12:39] <popokpou> i'm so mad at ubuntu for doing this to me
[12:40] <Attie> what's happened?
[12:40] <gaelfx> Ricaz: at any rate, testing a LiveUSB is a great way to know if the newer version will work on your hardware or not, so it's always a good idea to try anyhow
[12:40] <Ricaz> gaelfx if not, I will just install debian or arch or something.. a bit tired of ubuntu
[12:40] <popokpou> for no reason at all i get this message prior ot the startup screen, and i'm paraphrasing now because i've been here for two hours troubleshooting this to no avail, but something like "uibuntu now loading in low graphics mode" and then teh screen goes black
[12:41] <gaelfx> Attie: he's been spending a long time today dealing with a graphical problem
[12:41] <popokpou> i'm at thep onint now where i'm having to unencrypt home directories and backup and then reformat
[12:41] <Ricaz> i have arch on my own laptop, and I've never had any such problems with it
[12:41] <popokpou> and if i lose anything i'm going to start smashing in skulls
[12:41] <daptordarattler> popokpou: this is till happening after the resinstallation?
[12:41] <Attie> popokpou gaelfx: i see *sad face*
[12:41] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: I don't think he's gotten to that point yet
[12:41] <popokpou> haven't reinstalled yet, daptor. i'm still cleaning off a usb drive so i can backup my stuff
[12:42] <daptordarattler> oh Ok thats good
[12:42] <popokpou> i thank you all for your concern
[12:42] <shaneo> hey guys im having alot of dependencie errors all of a sudden http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077978/ any suggestions on how to fix it? all was fine yesterday but when i went to perform updates this morning it says all deps are failing
[12:42] <Attie> popokpou, when you reinstall you should really make a seperate partition for /home works a charm... also dont encrypt your homes... unless you have a good reason!
[12:42] <daptordarattler> did u try a complete analyses with df on ur home directory for the large space being taken?
[12:42] <popokpou> will do, attie. how much space should i allocate? 20G?
[12:43] <Nillerz> Hey, can anyone help me try to get broadcom-sta running with a non-official kernel?
[12:43] <Attie> should be fine
[12:43] <bilel> Hi, I have a strange bug with my computer, it's a laptop with ubuntu 12.04, when I just close it, it should go in standby mode, but very often (like 1 time on 5), he keeps on turning, when I come back, I'm hearing the fan noise wich is turning at its max level, and the bottom is warm so it has been like this during the whole time, when I open it, there is a black screen and I can't do...
[12:43] <bilel> ...anything but shutdown with the button... do you know why this happens?
[12:43] <Attie> popokpou, a bit more. i did ~70GB / 1TB on one of my boxes
[12:43] <Attie> has plenty left
[12:44] <popokpou> on second thoughts, i have virtual machines that ilve in my home directory and they all have 30G harddrives so probabyl more like 100G
[12:44] <popokpou> maybe more
[12:44] <gaelfx> Attie: I've already told him to make separate partition for /home :P
[12:44] <popokpou> whats teh idea with partitioning home? is it just so its easy to backup your files?
[12:44] <daptordarattler> That will probably be it, assuming u dedicated the drive space at install
[12:44] <gaelfx> in fact, I think I've told a lot of people to do that today
[12:45] <Attie> gaelfx: cool! ill shush - sorry for stepping on toes :)
[12:45] <Attie> heh...
[12:45] <popokpou> they should make ti default in ubuntu install for those of us who wouldn't know to do that
[12:45] <daptordarattler> popokpou yeah
[12:45] <daptordarattler> thats the main idea
[12:45] <gaelfx> Attie: haha, no worries, just keepin you up to date. Please don't shush
[12:45] <daptordarattler> I dont like it cos then most of the time I have to create a new mount point to save larger files
[12:46] <gaelfx> popokpou: yeah, I've said that many times, but as iceroot has pointed out, it's difficult to decide the right defaults for that sort of thing
[12:46] <gaelfx> popokpou: still, there should be an option in teh default installer for that sort of set up
[12:46] <popokpou> so i'm copying a large amoutn of files usign command line on my ubuntu server machine (transfering USB filse to server to clean off the usb).. i'm wondering if its normal for it just to sit there with teh cursor flashing or would it be telling me that its copying the files over? its a hell of a lot of files
[12:46] <daptordarattler> gaelfx:I dont like it cos then most of the time I have to create a new mount point to save larger files
[12:46] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: think its too much of a hustle to get a separate partition for home especially for newbies
[12:46] <BotaniCar> popokpou: get iostat runing and see if disks do something
[12:47] <Attie> popokpou, command line is quiet... just wait :)
[12:47] <popokpou> just so long as i'm not waiting here like an idiot and nothing is happening
[12:47] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: that's why I think it should be a simple option in the installer
[12:47] <popokpou> i know it'll probably take an hour to copy everything over
[12:47] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: then, if people need to reinstall, they don't have to worry about losing the stuff on /home
[12:47] <popokpou> it'd be nice to have some sort of confirmation or soemthing tho...
[12:48] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: if thats the case then that wont be the solution
[12:48] <popokpou> damn, i never realised that, so i coudl reinstall and all my stuff in /home would still be there
[12:48] <popokpou> thats great
[12:48] <oCean> !separatehome
[12:48] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: because when ur reinstalling u can decide not to format the ext4 partition and everything in ur home will be left untouched
[12:48] <oCean> !ur | daptordarattler
[12:48] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: thats more reliable than a seperate partition
[12:48] <daptordarattler> oCean: huh?
[12:49] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: but if your /home is not on a separate partition, you need to format it along with /
[12:49] <oCean> daptordarattler: the use of "u" and "ur" instead of you and you are is hard to understand for non-native speakers
[12:49] <daptordarattler> oh sorry lol, ubottu
[12:49] <daptordarattler> got that down, sorry people
[12:50] <mink> Hello guys. Maybe any one can explain how delete icon from bottom bar (screenshot here  -> http://oi49.tinypic.com/552ybk.jpg )? :<<<
[12:50] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: its like with windows where people put their documents on a seperate partition, but u dont really have to unless its encrypted
[12:50] <daptordarattler> cos when u reinstall and dont format the partition ur home or user folders are left intact in all operating systems
[12:51] <daptordarattler> sorry again
[12:51] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: yeah, but if you reinstall to an unformatted partition, things can get really bad in really weird ways
[12:51] <oCean> :(
[12:51] <daptordarattler> you and because
[12:51] <daptordarattler> I cant help it
[12:51] <oCean> keep trying :)
[12:51] <daptordarattler> Thats true
[12:51] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: the problem with the way people do windows partitions is that they tend to make four where they only need two
[12:52] <daptordarattler> the only problem i see there is the configuration files that are left in ubuntu on the home directory
[12:52] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: not in my experience
[12:52] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: yes, THAT is the biggest problem, but easily solved with rm :D
[12:52] <daptordarattler> they just mostly do two
[12:52] <daptordarattler> but I dont like it, I prefer one and install over that one
[12:53] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: well, in China, every computer I've seen has 4 and they are evenly divided into the hard drive size, it's totally atrociuos to witness such practice on a large scale, and there is no scale larger than China
[12:53] <daptordarattler> with ubuntu you could just delete all the ".config" files in ur home when u run the live install before you reinstall over that
[12:53] <daptordarattler> lol
[12:53] <daptordarattler> China eh
[12:53] <daptordarattler> well I
[12:53] <FloodBot1> daptordarattler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <daptordarattler> im from ghana
[12:54] <daptordarattler> sorry
[12:54] <judh> using Lynx want browse google but  Failed to connect to server, where be the problem lying
[12:54] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: at any rate, my point is that I've seen a lot of people reinstalling in the room, and the vast majority are worried about backing up /home
[12:54] <gaelfx> judh: tried links instead?
[12:55] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: in my country poeple dont like seeing too many things on their computers because they say it makes them loose focus, so you find them having an average of 2 partitions
[12:55] <daptordarattler> gaelfx: but yes u are right
[12:55] <gaelfx> daptordarattler: that's good! send them to China to teach people to do it the right way please :D
[12:55] <daptordarattler> to play it safe a mount point for home will be a safe bet
[12:56] <bilel> Hi, I have a strange bug with my computer, it's a laptop with ubuntu 12.04, when I just close it, it should go in standby mode, but very often (like 1 time on 5), he keeps on turning, when I come back, I'm hearing the fan noise wich is turning at its max level, and the bottom is warm so it has been like this during the whole time, when I open it, there is a black screen and I can't do...
[12:56] <bilel> ...anything but shutdown with the button... do you know why this happens? thx
[12:56] <daptordarattler> :D will do that, I'm a strong advocate for ubuntu and linux softwares especially server based installations so Im always spreading the word
[12:56] <judh> gaelfx: I access to internet through mozilla browser
[12:56] <oCean> daptordarattler: please keep offtopic chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[12:57] <gaelfx> judh: I thought you said you were using Lynx?
[12:57] <Nillerz> Where can I get linux-headers-generic for the 3.4.4 kernel?
[12:57] <oCean> Nillerz: that is not a supported/official kernel version
[12:58] <judh> gaelfx: I tried to browse using lynx from the terminal
[12:58] <Nillerz> oCean, I don't care, it's the kernel I need to use to make Ubuntu usable
[12:58] <oCean> Nillerz: but it is not supported in this channel
[12:58] <judh> gaelfx: but I get a error saying Failed to connect to server
[12:58] <daptordarattler> oCean: do you work at ubuntu?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Nillerz  start from the beginning, when and where do things go wrong?
[12:59] <oCean> daptordarattler: still not a support question. Please stop the offtopic
[12:59] <shaneo> please help it seems every dependencie on my pc ic broken i cant install anything and I cant fix it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077978/
[12:59] <daptordarattler> yes sir!
[12:59] <shaneo> even apt-get -f install doesnt work
[12:59] <shaneo> synaptic cant fix them
[12:59] <shaneo> idk what else can be done
[12:59] <ubuntu> #cw.pl
[13:00] <Nillerz> MonkeyDust, I have massive crash issues with the kernel that came with 12.04 (x86_64), so I researched the issue and the only bit of intel that I got that might help was that I should update my kernel. I did, and the crashes disappeared, but now Broadcom-sta isn't working, so I have to compile it from the source.
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Nillerz  a lot of people use 64bit, so nothing's wrong with that? crashes... any error messages... just a broadcom issue?
[13:01] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[13:01] <Nillerz> I thought I had already installed linux-headers-generic but I guess not
[13:01] <[flux]> Zante
[13:02] <penetrtion> i build minimal ubuntu in virtual box now how to make live cd from virtual box?
[13:02] <judh> I use the command :   lynx http://www.google.com,  I cannot able to connect to the site and error: Failed to connect to Server, where be the problem?
[13:02] <daptordarattler> shaneo: what happened before the broken packages?
[13:02] <morten77> Are there a way to have the system mount disks automaticly when they are used? right now it seems you have to go to a disk with the filemanager to have it mounted. you can't do a  cd /media/D  before you have visited that drive in the filemanager first :-(
[13:02] <[flux]> Btw, that guy who needed scheduled scripts, he can use cron, can't he?
[13:02] <Nillerz> MonkeyDust, it's actually a recurring problem across 3 laptops I'm responsible for (me, my wives, and my friends). We all have different hardware and software, but we're all using Ubuntu based distributions, and we all are experiencing the same crashing.
[13:02] <penetrtion> @judh ping google.com
[13:02] <oCean> Nillerz: once more (last time) you are using a non-official kernel version. This is not supported and offtopic for this channel
[13:02] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i installed libgnutls26 to fix transmission ssl tracker error as stated on launchpad
[13:03] <Nillerz> oCean, someone else asked me a question, do you mind?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Nillerz  ubuntu, or ubuntu based? it's not the same
[13:03] <daptordarattler> shaneo: and the errors started?
[13:03] <Nillerz> MonkeyDust, Mine is Ubuntu, one is Pinguy, and one is Linux Mint.
[13:03] <oCean> Nillerz: yes, because we can NOT support unofficial software/kernels
[13:03] <penetrtion> 0cean can u help me
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Nillerz  pinguy and mint are not supported here
[13:03] <gaelfx> [flux]: he found a different way, and it was much easier than using cron :D
[13:03] <shaneo> daptordarattler, yup more this morning though than yesterday
[13:03] <Nillerz> but Ubuntu is, right?
[13:04] <penetrtion> i install ubuntu in virtualbox,i want to make livecd from virtualbox..i can make live cd?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> Nillerz  don't try the non-official kernel, it's not supported in this channel
[13:04] <daptordarattler> shaneo: have u tried a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or a simple apt-get upgrade?
[13:04] <[flux]> gaelfx: ah okay, can you tell me how?
[13:04] <gaelfx> [flux]: er, maybe, hang on
[13:05] <penetrtion> comon help meee
[13:05] <linux> hello everyone!
[13:05] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i tried simple upgrade but not dist-upgrade. I though it was wise to stay away from dist-upgrade
[13:05] <gaelfx> [flux]: simple sleep time_second && command in startup application
[13:05] <shaneo> daptordarattler, thats when i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077978/
[13:05] <morten77> MonkeyDust: are the a more broad irc channel for not-supported things btw?
[13:05] <gaelfx> [flux]: that's exactly what he told me
[13:06] <morten77> *there
[13:06] <carpediembaby> how does uninstall of self compiled packages work?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> morten77  there's #ubuntu-offtopic and #defocus
[13:06] <mangapan> hi all
[13:06] <daptordarattler> try dist-upgrade and lets see
[13:06] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: I believe you have to do make uninstall
[13:06] <oCean> morten77: also ##linux for generic linux help
[13:06] <morten77> ok
[13:06] <Attie> carpediembaby: if you installed the files by hand too, then its just an 'rm' - careful of breaking dependancies though
[13:06] <Ricaz> Weird.. When I try to boot from my freshly created LiveUSB, it just skips it and goes directly into my installed ubuntu
[13:07] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok
[13:07] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: i mean, i use apt-get for that also? my problem is that i compiled ruby from source and i don't want to remove the default ruby that comes with ubuntu
[13:07] <shaneo> daptordarattler, nope a whole lot more errors
[13:07] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: no, apt-get will only work for packages that were installed using apt-get
[13:07] <daptordarattler> shaneo: tyr "sudo dpkg -i --configure -a"
[13:08] <daptordarattler> shaneo: i meant try
[13:08] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: so how do i remove the other versions?
[13:08] <habib> hey! how to run apps us root
[13:08] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: if you compiled it from source, then you had to do make && make install, correct?
[13:08] <habib> i need to run few apps by root
[13:08] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: yes
[13:08] <habib> how to
[13:08] <gaelfx> !sudo | habib
[13:09] <shaneo> daptordarattler, dpkg: error: conflicting actions  (--configure) and -i (--install)
[13:09] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: so you need to do make uninstall
[13:09] <daptordarattler> shaneo: tyr "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[13:09] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: but in which directory?
[13:09] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: whichever directory the make file is in
[13:09] <gogli> help me .I can't mount my HDD
[13:09] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: aha
[13:10] <shaneo> daptordarattler, still the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078004/
[13:10] <gogli> gaelfx:   I can't any of my device .When i did so , i get i/o error
[13:11] <daptordarattler> shaneo: i can only see what you did with dist-upgrade, wat happened to dpkg --configure -a?
[13:11] <carpediembaby> gaelfx: no rule to make target uninstall
[13:11] <AlexKuroAshi> ciao a tutti :)
[13:11] <AlexKuroAshi> !list
[13:11] <shaneo> daptordarattler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078008/ sorry wrong link
[13:11] <judh> penetrtion: I could not get any response from  ping google.com
[13:12] <linux> 不是
[13:12] <linux> 这个是什么群，
[13:12] <habib> what if i run bash script file like "sudo bash install". and it goes ok but at sone string it says "u need to run this us root"?
[13:12] <linux> 有谁可以用中午讲讲吗
[13:12] <Cottus> !jp
[13:13] <linux> 我是心来的菜鸟
[13:13] <linux> 各位大婶
[13:13] <daptordarattler> shaneo: ok good, now try this "sudo apt-get purge vlc; sudo apt-get autoremove;"
[13:13] <judh> Failed to connect to server when i use lynx google.com
[13:13] <LjL> !cn | linux
[13:13] <[flux]> gaelfx: Ah okay.
[13:13] <gogli>   I can't mount any of my device .When i did so , i get i/o error
[13:14] <gaelfx> !cn | linux
[13:14] <gaelfx> oops
[13:14] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:14] <gaelfx> need to page down before I do that sort of stuff
[13:14] <AlexKuroAshi> list
[13:14] <AlexKuroAshi> !list
[13:14] <gogli> gaelfx: help me bro !
[13:14] <shaneo> daptordarattler, both are producing the same error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078010/
[13:15] <cristian_c> How can I activate touchpad gestures with ginn?
[13:15] <gaelfx> carpediembaby: well then, you would probably have to go through the makefile, figure out what it did to installand rm all the crap it put in
[13:15] <cristian_c> There is this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn
[13:16] <cristian_c> but I don't understand how can I do to solve
[13:16] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[13:16] <linux> yes
[13:16] <gogli> gaelfx:   I can't mount  any of my device .When i did so , i get i/o error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078013/
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> cristian_c: tried easystroke as an alternative?
[13:17] <ikonia> gogli: it's already mounted, as the error clrealy says
[13:17] <daptordarattler> shaneo: all those errors are saying an older version of lingnutls26 is installed
[13:17] <daptordarattler> and this happened after u installed it for transmission
[13:18] <cristian_c> ActionPa1snip, Easystroke is a gesture-recognition program, which can execute predefined actions based on "gestures" that you draw on the screen.
[13:18] <daptordarattler> shaneo: did u install it from a different source for transmission or from the repository?
[13:18] <cristian_c> ActionPa1snip, I must activate gestures, not action instead :)
[13:18] <cristian_c> *actins
[13:18] <shaneo> daptordarattler, from the repo
[13:18] <daptordarattler> purge it and transmission ryt now?
[13:19] <cristian_c> **actions
[13:19] <shaneo> daptordarattler, to only problem is if i try to remove it it uninstalls everything
[13:19] <shaneo> and i mean everything
[13:19] <gogli> ikonia :  just see this one also  : )http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078017/
[13:19] <daptordarattler> on ur system? or from the errors?
[13:19] <daptordarattler> shaneo
[13:19] <shaneo> ?
[13:19] <shaneo> on my system
[13:19] <habib> i'm running bash script file and it gives me that: There is no sudo command in your system,you'd better run the software by root
[13:20] <daptordarattler> shaneo: hmmmm
[13:20] <cristian_c> ActionPa1snip, there is touchegg for that (actions)
[13:20] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i cant even reinstall it cause it gives me the same errors
[13:20] <samba35> how do i start any application on startup i try chkconfig it give me error with insserv
[13:20] <samba35> chkconfig --level 345 application on
[13:20] <gogli> gaelfx:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078017/   please also see this one
[13:21] <ikonia> gogli: yes, something has mounted that has been removed, eg: a usb disk
[13:21] <daptordarattler> shaneo: something seems off, open synaptic and see what error message it gives you
[13:21] <shaneo> daptordarattler, 26 system packages are broken
[13:21] <daptordarattler> ok, and what fix does it give u "apt-get -f install"?
[13:22] <shaneo> daptordarattler, yup
[13:22] <gogli> ikonia : well , i can't mount any secondary device including my HDD of my PC
[13:22] <ActionPa1snip> samba35: is this on a desktop system or a server?
[13:22] <gogli> ikonia : i even reboot 3-4 times
[13:22] <samba35> server
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> samba35: you can add entries in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it will run just before the login prompt shows, and as root
[13:23] <ikonia> gogli: show me the error of you mounting it
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> samba35: you can use su -c   to run commands as other users :)
[13:23] <samba35> ok
[13:23] <samba35> i am root  ,sudo su
[13:23] <Galeno> Galeno
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> samba35: sudo -i    is advised.
[13:24] <samba35> ok
[13:24] <gogli> ikonia : i already posted you .just scroll up or just click here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078013/
[13:24] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i also have libgnutls26:i386 installed but its at latest version. I wont lose anything important if i remove it so should I?
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> samba35: but that file is dead handy for commands that need root access at boot
[13:24] <daptordarattler> shaneo: try this code http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078024/
[13:24] <shaneo> i run an amd64
[13:24] <ikonia> gogli: yeah, I already told you "it's already mounted" as the error clearly says on /media/Lex
[13:24] <ikonia> gogli: so you can mount it, it's there, it's mounted
[13:25] <samba35> ok
[13:25] <gogli> ikonia : wait for a second .Let me try on cli .
[13:25] <ikonia> gogli: try what ?
[13:26] <gogli> ikonia : umount it
[13:26] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok will do ill let you know how it goes
[13:26] <ikonia> gogli: why ? it's already mounted, you want to mount it....it's mounted, problem solved
[13:27] <jnext_> ...
[13:28] <daptordarattler> shaneo: great
[13:29] <vikash> i need some help in installing hindi phonetic booster
[13:29] <shaneo> daptordarattler, the update went fine without errors when i went to run upgrade it showed the errors again
[13:29] <id30493403053853> iam trying to install wine but when i go to ubuntu software center it gives me this output http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[13:29] <vikash> anybody?
[13:29] <vikash> i need some help in installing hindi phonetic booster, anybody?
[13:29] <daptordarattler> shaneo: show me
[13:29] <IdleOne> vikash: Please don't repeat so quickly.
[13:30] <vikash> ok
[13:30] <IdleOne> vikash: What is hindi phonetic booster?
[13:30] <vikash> i cannot find the package
[13:30] <vikash> i have it installed in fedora
[13:30] <shaneo> daptordarattler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078037/
[13:30] <LjL> vikash: it doesn't seem to be available for Ubuntu, from a look at Google
[13:32] <vikash> any other hindi ime
[13:32] <daptordarattler> shaneo: try apt-get install -f from the root your in currently
[13:33] <shaneo> daptordarattler, same error
[13:33] <shaneo> daptordarattler, is there somewhere i can d/l libgnutls26_2.12.18-1 and install it over the current
[13:33] <daptordarattler> shaneo: i'm lost on ideas
[13:33] <id30493403053853> iam trying to install wine but when i go to ubuntu software center it gives me this output http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[13:34] <daptordarattler> shaneo: yeah you can
[13:34] <LjL> vikash: there is "scim-tables-additional" which has Hindi, but that's not iBus, SCIM is a different IME. not sure how well it'll work by default. :\
[13:34] <daptordarattler> shaneo: just download it from the online package repos and use sudo dpkg -i libgnutls26_*
[13:35] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok ill try it out
[13:35] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, congratulations, you're in Dependency Heck.
[13:35] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:what an honour :D
[13:35] <Nillerz> Let me see if I can find an easy work-around for you...
[13:36] <LjL> vikash: oh, try installing the package "ibus-m17n", i'm reading that should contain the Hindi tables for iBus
[13:36] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, did you install the Wine PPA?
[13:36] <vikash> thanks LjL i will try
[13:36] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, add this to your software sources, then try again. ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[13:37] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:i dont know if i have the wine installed right now or not
[13:37] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:when i go to terminal and type wine it shows me that its installed
[13:37] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, Go to your package manager, whether it be Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center, and add that ppa
[13:37] <id30493403053853> Nillerz: ok
[13:37] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, then you should be good.
[13:37] <gaelfx> that has got to be the ugliest nick I've seen in a while
[13:37] <mithran> hai i installed new ubuntu in my system. then ionly can see the ubuntu in the boot menu threre is no windows what shall i do?
[13:38] <daptordarattler> shaneo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libgnutls26
[13:38] <habib> does anyone know russiab ubuntu comunity chat?
[13:38] <IdleOne> daptordarattler: shaneo installing packages from pre-release versions is not recommended
[13:38] <habib> i need russian language help
[13:39] <IdleOne> !ru
[13:39] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:39] <shaneo> IdleOne, well maybe you can help me with my problem than
[13:39] <shaneo> IdleOne, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078037/
[13:39] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, you can do that, or you can do it the easier way by going through your graphical package manager
[13:39] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, for example, Synaptic
[13:39] <shaneo> otherwise it needs to be done to restore order to my pz
[13:39] <shaneo> *pc
[13:40] <IdleOne> shaneo: you tried running sudp apt-get -f install
[13:40] <shaneo> IdleOne, yes
[13:40] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:yeah the think is that i cant add it ::P
[13:40] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:from ubuntu software center
[13:40] <shaneo> IdleOne, I have tried everything
[13:41] <daptordarattler> IdleOne: he has tried a lot of things : shaneo: I wouldnt say everything
[13:41] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:i just cant click to add
[13:41] <shaneo> daptordarattler, true :) atleast everything i know
[13:41] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, in Synaptic go to Settings > Repostories
[13:41] <gaelfx> mithran: are you sure the Windows partition is still on your computer?
[13:41] <Nillerz> then the Other Software tab
[13:41] <Nillerz> click "Add"
[13:41] <daptordarattler> shaneo: install the lib package and lets see :-)
[13:42] <Nillerz> paste what's in my quotes here (without the quotes): "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa"
[13:42] <mithran> gaelfx: ya
[13:42] <Nillerz> click "Add Source"
[13:42] <IdleOne> shaneo: I just know that mixing packages from different versions can end up causing more problems then it will solve.
[13:42] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, after you're done, reload
[13:42] <japro> in 12.04 where do i find the settings for the screenshot thingy?
[13:42] <gaelfx> mithran: then you probably need to update grub
[13:42] <japro> i want to disable the mouse cursor in screenshots
[13:42] <mithran> gaelfx:  ther i can find the my documents of windows
[13:42] <shaneo> IdleOne, so any recommendations on fixing it?
[13:43] <id30493403053853> Nillerz: this is what i told when i add the line i cant press add
[13:43] <mithran> gaelfx: how it can be done?
[13:43] <IdleOne> shaneo: not really, sorry. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of the risk.
[13:43] <Nillerz> what version are you running?
[13:43] <shaneo> daptordarattler, it seems the i386 version is getting in the way http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078060/
[13:43] <shaneo> IdleOne, ok thanks
[13:43] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:ubuntu software center>software sources>add
[13:44] <daptordarattler> shaneo: then purge it
[13:44] <Nillerz> Are you sure there aren't any strange characters in it or something?
[13:44] <id30493403053853> yep
[13:44] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok
[13:44] <Nillerz> I just tried this in Synaptic and it worked fine... hmm...
[13:44] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:maybe this isnt the ppa for wine
[13:44] <Nillerz> Maybe it's an issue with Ubuntu Software Center... can you try it in Synaptic?
[13:44] <gaelfx> mithran: I believe update-grub should do it
[13:44] <daptordarattler> IdleOne: at least it will fix the large issues and then only the transmission issues will be left
[13:44] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:i dont have synaptic
[13:45] <mithran> gaelfx:  ok i willltry nd come back
[13:45] <daptordarattler> shaneo: is your pc 64bit?
[13:45] <killer> hi ...i saved a site using wget (php site)...it's a file ...how do i view the entire site now
[13:45] <shaneo> daptordarattler, yes
[13:45] <daptordarattler> shaneo: how did the i386 version of lib get installed?
[13:45] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, I'm not going to tell you to install synaptic then, I don't know why it wouldn't let you add it.
[13:45] <OerHeks> id30493403053853 ( or studio) your ubuntu is not up2date, told you yesterday. that is why you have these problems.
[13:45] <japro> i get the cursor in screenshots even if the application i want to take the screenshot of hides the cursor
[13:45] <japro> argh
[13:46] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i have no idea
[13:46] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, what version are you running?
[13:46] <daptordarattler> shaneo: lol :-)
[13:46] <id30493403053853> 0erHeks:how can i fix this
[13:46] <id30493403053853> ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit
[13:46] <id30493403053853> i know that you did 0erheks
[13:46] <daptordarattler> shaneo: how did the purging go?
[13:46] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, I don't think it's an issue with it being not updated
[13:46] <shaneo> daptordarattler, performing now
[13:47] <daptordarattler> shaneo: ok
[13:47] <Nillerz> that sounds silly, if you're running 12.04, it's modern enough for most purposes
[13:47] <shaneo> daptordarattler, its uninstalling alot of stuff
[13:47] <id30493403053853> Nillerz: modern pc needs modern updates
[13:47] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, never update
[13:47] <OerHeks> Nillerz, look at the depencies "PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~) but 1.16.1.2ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[13:47] <Nillerz> if it works now it will work tomorrow
[13:47] <mithran> gaelfx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078065/
[13:47]  * n3rdo hi all
[13:47] <Ricaz> gaelfx :)
[13:48] <LjL> Nillerz: that's not sound advice, i hope you're joking
[13:48] <Nillerz> OerHeks, he's saying he can't add the Wine PPA
[13:48] <daptordarattler> shaneo: its fine, we will install ther required ones when its done
[13:48] <id30493403053853> 0erheks:but when i try sudo apt-get update
[13:48] <mithran> gaelfx: found this?
[13:48] <id30493403053853> everything is fine
[13:48] <Nillerz> LjL, no I'm not, updates break things (like wireless drivers)
[13:48] <shaneo> daptordarattler, after that libgnutls26 is now at latest version
[13:48] <mithran> gaelfx:  is it ok?
[13:48] <LjL> Nillerz: not updating opens you up to security issues, for a start
[13:48] <Nillerz> Security updates are one thing, but updates in general? No. It's working now, it will keep working
[13:48] <OerHeks> Nillerz, i have dpkg 1.16.1.2ubuntu7 on this 64 bit 12.04. he has to update, or something else is bugging him.
[13:48] <LjL> Nillerz: well, Ubuntu really only provides updates (aside from some specific packages) for security issues and serious bugs
[13:49] <Nillerz> OerHeks, He says he can't add the proper PPA
[13:49] <LjL> Nillerz: it doesn't generally just give you "new versions" of software
[13:49] <daptordarattler> shaneo: ok so then do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade -y --force-yes; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y --force-yes"
[13:49] <Ricaz> The laptop won't accept the LiveUSB and I have no CDs. Is there a different way to do a clean install?
[13:49] <id30493403053853> i did
[13:49] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, you've added the PPA?
[13:49] <id30493403053853> NIllerz: if i could
[13:49] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok will do
[13:50] <id30493403053853> Nillez: you gave me this and i cant add it( ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa )
[13:50] <magmatt> My ubuntu 11.04 server occasionally reverts to DHCP even though /etc/network/interfaces is set for a static ip?  I followed these instructions http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[13:50] <id30493403053853> NIllerz:
[13:50] <Nillerz> If you can't update it via Ubuntu Software Center, I would suggest adding it to your /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[13:51] <IdleOne> id30493403053853: the actual command is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[13:51] <shaneo> daptordarattler, nothing to be done but it allw orks
[13:51] <shaneo> *all works
[13:51] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, do that ^^ what he said
[13:51] <id30493403053853> yeah i know
[13:52] <id30493403053853> but the thing is
[13:52] <id30493403053853> whatever
[13:52] <daptordarattler> shaneo: great, check the apps that were in the package error list to make sure we are safe ;-)
[13:52] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, what is the thing?
[13:52] <IdleOne> Nillerz: giving half commands and dubious advice is something we really frown upon in this channel. Please try to be more precise with the support you provide.
[13:52] <id30493403053853> apt-get update?
[13:53] <Nillerz> after you add the repository, yes
[13:53] <shaneo> daptordarattler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078072/ should i clear all this?
[13:53] <shaneo> daptordarattler, there all i386 packages
[13:54] <melkor> shaneo: why wouldn't you clear that?
[13:54] <Nillerz> IdleOne, I'm not going to advise someone to do a complete system update if he's just having issues adding a repository
[13:54] <mithran> gaelfx: is there any mistake??????
[13:54] <shaneo> melkor, idkjust checking
[13:54] <gaelfx> Ricaz: did you get it working?
[13:55] <id30493403053853> the thing is that you cant add  ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa to software sources from ubuntu software center
[13:55] <daptordarattler> shaneo: have u checked the packages that came with them?
[13:55] <gaelfx> mithran: no mistake, but it didn't find your windows, hang on
[13:55] <Ricaz> gaelfx no, not at all
[13:55] <melkor> shaneo: most likely it is fine to remove, unless you have something special setup where you require those packages, but none of your installed packages need them.
[13:55] <daptordarattler> shaneo: yes you can remove them, they are no longer in use
[13:55] <Ricaz> gaelfx it won't boot the LiveUSB
[13:55] <daptordarattler> shaneo: so then everything will be fine
[13:55] <gaelfx> Ricaz: wow, that's pretty disheartening :(
[13:55] <shaneo> daptordarattler, melkor, ok autoremove complete now i guess its time to start reinstalling everything
[13:55] <daptordarattler> shaneo: most of them were installed when you first installed the fix for transmission right?
[13:55] <Ricaz> gaelfx yup :<
[13:56] <shaneo> daptordarattler, probably
[13:56] <gaelfx> Ricaz: seems like it might be best if you stick with 11.10 then :/
[13:56] <daptordarattler> shaneo: then u have no problem
[13:56] <Ricaz> gaelfx and the CDs I have lying around won't do the job
[13:56] <melkor> Ricaz: I had a problem with the live cd, but I made a bootable usb and it worked fine.
[13:56] <Ricaz> well, neither work right now :P
[13:56] <shaneo> daptordarattler, well thank you for all of your help ive been trying to fix it for two days
[13:56] <Nillerz> id30493403053853, if you add it via the terminal, then you'll be able to access it through Ubuntu Software Center.
[13:56] <daptordarattler> shaneo: everything will work fine now, no large apps were removed and most of them would have been installed when u did the dist-upgrade
[13:56] <Ricaz> gaelfx How can I stick with it? it already updated to 12.04, that's when it stopped working
[13:57] <id30493403053853> Nillerz: yeah i notiiced that
[13:57] <shaneo> daptordarattler, nothing was installed on dist-upgrade
[13:57] <daptordarattler> shaneo: No problem, im happy I solved at least one persons issue today, thas ok at least it checked for lacking packages in all your softwares
[13:57] <Nillerz> http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu/
[13:57] <gitesh> installing Ubuntu 12.04 lts was headache because it taking so much time to download from the Internet
[13:58] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i appreciated more than you know thanks again for your efforts
[13:58] <shaneo> *appreciate
[13:58] <Nillerz> run " sudo apt-get install wine 1.4 " after you have done the update
[13:58] <daptordarattler> shaneo: hit me up anytime you need help, I just started the irc and I love it , will be here often
[13:58] <gaelfx> Ricaz: you would have to reinstall 11.10
[13:58] <testpil0t> heya
[13:59] <shaneo> daptordarattler, ok cool im here all the time ill see you around for sure if you need somewhere else you can come join my channel of efnet
[13:59] <gaelfx> gitesh: use the torrent from releases.ubuntu.com
[13:59] <Ricaz> is there a way to configure grub to boot from a USB drive?
[13:59] <daptordarattler> shaneo: great ;-)
[14:00] <shaneo> daptordarattler, #music.movies.tv-chat of efnet
[14:00] <shaneo> *on
[14:00] <testpil0t> I just moved my old ubuntu 10.04 installation to a new pc (i7, 3770k), and it seems to work. Tho it does not detect my dual monitor setup (ivy bridge, onboard). It just mirrors the screens. Tho i dont know where to start, as even xrandr does not detect them.
[14:00] <gitesh> well, now its fine, gaelfx. Enjoying LInux  based system
[14:00] <gaelfx> Ricaz: well, yeah, one of my computers has no internal drives at all (SATA controller failed)
[14:00] <melkor> Ricaz: you want grub on the usb drive or you want the usb drive to be an options.
[14:00] <mithran> anybody there i updated my grub but still the problem exist how can i get the windows in my bootmenu?
[14:00] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:it downloads wine mono installer right now
[14:01] <shaneo> lol when i reinstall wine its gonna install everything i just auto-removed
[14:01] <Ricaz> melkor usb drive to the options, so it will boot the LiveUSB from grub and not from.. well bottom level IO
[14:01] <Ricaz> all I have is a terminal though, and nothing happens when I insert the USB drive
[14:02] <melkor> Ricaz: I don't know what you mean, what do you expect to happen when you insert a usb?
[14:02] <gaelfx> Ricaz: you need to make the computer boot from USB, jus inserting it won't make the live version start
[14:03] <Ricaz> gaelfx I know that, but I'm worried it won't detect it
[14:03] <Ricaz> I mean I
[14:03] <shaneo> daptordarattler, no i cant install wine :(
[14:03] <Ricaz> I'd need to detect it before I can add it to grub?
[14:03] <shaneo> *now
[14:03] <crazymindstorm> hi can anybody tell me a programm with witch i can use my acer iconia w500 multi touch screen corektly ?
[14:03] <bcurtiswx> is there a dummy package that will install video codecs for music and videos ?
[14:03] <id30493403053853> Nillerz:as 0erheks said before maybe this is an update problem,so i go to update manager and it gives me this output
[14:03] <id30493403053853> Nillerz: http://pastebin.com/yXXSETa7
[14:03] <gaelfx> Ricaz: you don't need to add it to grub at all, that's not how the liveusb works
[14:04] <Ricaz> I know that, but if I can't boot from it to begin with, what do I do?
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> boubbin: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:04] <daptordarattler> shaneo: u mean cant install or run?
[14:04] <kalikk> hello, everyone
[14:04] <shaneo> daptordarattler, install
[14:05] <shaneo> missing deps
[14:05] <daptordarattler> paste it
[14:05] <gaelfx> Ricaz: er, in that case you probably need a LiveCD
[14:05] <bcurtiswx> ActionPa1snip, I think you meant me, and thx :)
[14:05] <kalikk> ubuntu is using network, i am not using anything , but it is downloading near 19-20 KBps
[14:05] <Ricaz> :< :< :<
[14:06] <kalikk> how to know, what application is using it
[14:06] <melkor> Ricaz: it is probably easiest to figure out how to boot from the usb via your bios/computers boot menu.
[14:06] <shaneo> daptordarattler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078094/
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> bcurtiswx: d'oh :). also install gnome-mplayer, there is also w32codecs from medibuntu repo
[14:06] <gaelfx> Ricaz: how did you originally install Ubuntu?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Ricaz  i havent followed, but if you can't boot from usb, try booting from a cd
[14:06] <bcurtiswx> ActionPa1snip, thx
[14:06] <Ricaz> gaelfx from CD
[14:06] <kalikk> i did netstat-a and some connections are with canonical
[14:06] <kalikk> how to stop ubuntu from that
[14:06] <Ricaz> problem is I don't have any CDs
[14:06] <melkor> Ricaz: otherwise you will have to create a grub entry that points to the usb drive and loads the kernel. It is not trivial and might not work.
[14:06] <gaelfx> Ricaz: and you're 100% sure that it can't boot from USB?
[14:07] <ActionPa1snip> kalikk: I you updating your OS?
[14:07] <skelterjohn> anyone ever have luck connecting ubuntu to a WET11 linksys wireless bridge? once I log in i just get a 404 from its admin page
[14:07] <Ricaz> I tried selecting USB from the boot menu, and I tried setting it to only boot from USB in the BIOS
[14:07] <kalikk> every time i login, and connect to internet, it starts downloading data without my confirmation and how to stop that
[14:07] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: can you ping the IP?
[14:07] <Ricaz> melkor that's what I want
[14:07] <Rayleigh> i got a prob about grub rescue
[14:07] <daptordarattler> shaneo: not enough information in the paste
[14:07] <melkor> Ricaz: so your bios says that you can boot from the USB?
[14:07] <shaneo> daptordarattler, thats all its giving me
[14:07] <Rayleigh> has anyone ever met this?
[14:08] <Ricaz> melkor yea, it has an option called "USB Memory"
[14:08] <kalikk> i have a slow internet connection and it further slow down my internet
[14:08] <kalikk> any idea, about that
[14:08] <ActionPa1snip> kalikk: again, are you updating the OS?
[14:08] <daptordarattler> shaneo: oh really, try sudo apt-get install wine -f
[14:08] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: yes - and when i try to visit it in my web browser, (192.168.1.225), it asks for my user/pass which i enter, and then 404s from then on out
[14:08] <melkor> Ricaz: and what happens when you restart the computer with the usb stick plugged in?
[14:08] <ds_> hi all
[14:08] <ActionPa1snip> kalikk: do you have autoupdates enabled?
[14:08] <Ricaz> melkor it boots into the broken ubuntu
[14:08] <kalikk> ActionPa1snip: No,
[14:08] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: and if i enter the wrong user/pass, it asks me again
[14:08] <melkor> Ricaz: is that what is on your usb?
[14:09] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: are you connecting logically from the WAN side of the device?
[14:09] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: so this is probably the WET11's fault, but i figured i'd ask here anyway
[14:09] <Ricaz> no, the liveUSB is on the USB
[14:09] <shaneo> daptordarattler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078098/
[14:09] <ds_> i choose to use a app for open torrent file but now i want to change the setting where is the setting?
[14:09] <melkor> Ricaz: how did you make the liveUSB?
[14:09] <kalikk> ActionPa1snip: these were on, and now i set it to never check for updates
[14:09] <kalikk> but it is still downloading, data
[14:09] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: i have an ethernet cable going from the computer to the device - i am unsure of what you mean by "logically"
[14:09] <Ricaz> with the suggestions on Ubuntu's website. It works, I tested it on my other PC, melkor
[14:09] <mithran> i had updated the grub in my system but still the problem exist whar shall i do to see my windows in my boot menu?
[14:09] <shaneo> ds_, right click the torrent and go to options and change open with setting
[14:09] <ActionPa1snip> kalikk: you can check the PID and see what process it is
[14:09] <gaelfx> ds_: right-click the .torrent file, go to the opens with tab and change the default
[14:09] <flyngpngn> Hi, I'm having a problem with RPC in 12.04. When I run "rup" on a network where it previously worked, I just get back "rup: RPC: Success" NFS/NIS works okay. Any tips?
[14:09] <mithran> what shall i do?
[14:10] <kalikk> Yes, now it has stopped
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> kalikk: what was the program name?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Ricaz  if it works on one pc, but not on the other, it must be a hardware issue
[14:10] <daptordarattler> shaneo: this is key "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." what are the held broken packages?
[14:10] <Ricaz> well, it has issues, no doubt :P
[14:10] <kalikk> ActionPa1snip: May OS updated it's settings now
[14:10] <mithran>  what shall i do to recover it?
[14:11] <shaneo> daptordarattler, idk I tried fixing via synaptic but it doesnt fins anything
[14:11] <ds_> how about edk2 link, how can i change the app for open it ?
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: well, if you are connecting via the WAN IP of the switch then the system assumes you are trying to get acess from outside, if you disabled WAN configuration then it will black you
[14:11] <melkor> Ricaz: then you are missing a bios option or a boot option. Before grub comes up you should be able to select USB. It might not be called USB Memory. Make sure to have the USB in the slot when you go to the bios it might give you different options.
[14:11] <SimpsonTP> hi all
[14:11] <kalikk> ActionPa1snip: It was empathy and many other connection to mulberry.canonical.com and others with same name
[14:11] <thiebaude> SimpsonTP: hey
[14:11] <SimpsonTP> after my upgrade to 12.04 desktop I have double notifications for empathy chats
[14:11] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: i appreciate what you're saying, unfortunately my networking skills aren't up to knowing how to address this issue
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> Ricaz: try F12 and F11 at BIOS screen too
[14:12] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: is there something i can do in the network config applet to fix this?
[14:12] <SimpsonTP> one is from the empathy dialog, and one seems a general notification ( which looks ugly as well )
[14:12] <mithran> sir ?
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: are you connected to one of the 4 ports on the switch or are you connecting from one network to the other?
[14:12] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: there is one port - it's a wireless bridge
[14:12] <daptordarattler> shaneo: try installing the dependency win1.5
[14:12] <Ricaz> These are the options in the boot manager: USB Memory, HDD, CD/DVD, FDD, LAN.
[14:12] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: intended to log into a wireless network and turn it into an ethernet cable
[14:12] <shaneo> daptordarattler, I tried it says its missing the dep wine1.5:i386
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: ok then you may need to enable WAN config in the device so that you are allowed in
[14:13] <mithran> anybody help me
[14:13] <daptordarattler> shaneo: lol
[14:13] <ds_> i want to choice another app for opening e2dk url but i can not find it via chrome or any where else
[14:13] <shaneo> daptordarattler, but i cant find it in the repos
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> !info wine
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: are you getting wine 1.5 from a PPA?
[14:13] <daptordarattler> shaneo: did u install wine from source or repos
[14:13] <mithran> i cant see my window s in my boot menue
[14:13] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: the only means of configuring this device are 1) the reset button (which i have pressed), 2) the crossover switch for the cable and 3) the web service i'm trying to connect to on 192.168.1.225
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> mithran: try uninstalling old kernels
[14:13] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: as far as i am aware
[14:14] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, daptordarattler as far as i know i installed via regular sources
[14:14] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: you may need to connect wirely
[14:14] <skelterjohn> i am connecting via the ethernet cable
[14:14] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: Wine 1.4 is in the Precise repos, not 1.5
[14:14] <daptordarattler> shaneo: k
[14:14] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: from the desktop machine (not the one i'm typing on) with no wireless
[14:14] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, than i guess i have a ppa
[14:14] <HELPMEWITHCAMERA> hi
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: then I suggest you contact the ppa maintainer, or ask in #winehq
[14:15] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  how can i uninstall the old kernels?
[14:15] <mithran> ActionPa1snip: what is the command for it?
[14:15] <kalikk> ActionPa1snip: now it has started again, connection to mulberry.canonical.com , alkes.canonical.com
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  ppa's tend to be unstable and are not supported here, use at your own risk
[14:15] <HELPMEWITHCAMERA> as you can see by my name
[14:15] <HELPMEWITHCAMERA> help me?
[14:15] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, well seeing as how it isnt even installed i guess ill install 1.4 from software center
[14:15] <Ricaz> melkor gaelfx I found an old dvd/rw and will try that one, will let u know :)
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> mithran: you can run:  uname -a   to get the current kernel, then run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image   to show the installed kernels
[14:15] <mithran> ok
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: don't remove the running kernel or the metapackage (one without version numbers)
[14:15] <metap0d> Hi everyone, is there a way to update just the kernel by itself in Ubuntu ?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> HELPMEWITHCAMERA  begin with lower case, type /nick helpmewithcamera
[14:16] <HELPMEWITHCAMERA> HElp me please.....
[14:16] <ActionPa1snip> mithran: ^
[14:16] <ActionPa1snip> metap0d: just reinstall the kernel metapackage and it will upgrade only that package, same ith any package
[14:16] <ikonia> HELPMEWITHCAMERA: best thing to do is just calmly ask your question, explaining the problem and details
[14:17] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, daptordarattler ok well im still getting tons of dep errors when trying to install wine1.4
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> helpmewithcamer: any chance of some updates?
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: probably due to the PPA
[14:17] <shaneo> specifically libgnutls26:i386
[14:17] <daptordarattler> shaneo: lol
[14:17] <skelterjohn> alternatively, can anyone help me use my mac laptop to provide internet sharing with my ubuntu desktop? i have got it to the point where i can ping my laptop's assigned IP, but nothing beyond that
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: remove all wine packages, and the PPA then reinstall wine
[14:17] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok ill try it out
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolcv.conf > /dev/null
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: you probably just don't have DNS set :)
[14:18] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: thanks - i will do that. in the meantime i have also tried to ping other IPs
[14:18] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  how can i find that the windows has no problem occured?
[14:18] <skelterjohn> and i already set my DNS to 8.8.8.8
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: also make sure your default gatway is reached by the interface you expect
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> mithran: what do you mean
[14:19] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: that part is what i believe i'm having trouble with - the gateway
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: then you can use the route command to add the route, the DNS may just do it :)
[14:19] <skelterjohn> ok, i will try and let you know
[14:20] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok no instances of wine or its ppa on my system and still getting dep errors
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: ok then remove the ppa, then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine    to get wine 1.4 from the official repo
[14:21] <xpistos> Hey, how do I flushdns in ubuntu?
[14:21] <merp_> Hi, I have a 100_sport camera
[14:21] <merp_> and when i plug into computer
[14:21] <merp_> nothing happpens.
[14:21] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: i checked and my /etc/resolcv.conf already has that nameserver, and the other google nameserver (8.8.4.4) as well
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> xpistos  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[14:22] <merp_> help?
[14:22] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, nope still dep errors
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[14:22] <melkor> merp_: I'm not familiar with the camera, what do you want to happen?
[14:22] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: I cannot
[14:22] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  if i done that comand....is it harm to the linux operating system?
[14:22] <skelterjohn> the only IP i can ping is 192.168.1.15, which is what I told my mac to be
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[14:22] <merp_> Well when I plug it in, i want to import photos to luciole, a stop motion program.
[14:23] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, sure thing one sec
[14:23] <ActionPa1snip> skelterjohn: sounds like you need to set the default gateway
[14:23] <merp_> But the camera doesnt show up
[14:23] <skelterjohn> ActionPa1snip: I have set my default gateway to the mac's IP, the one i can ping
[14:24] <foxytheoldone> skelterjohn, might b worth making it you first dns server also.
[14:24] <merp_> Is there anything i can do to make the computer recognize the camera?
[14:25] <melkor> merp_: if you go to the terminal and type lsusb do you see the camera?
[14:25] <merp_> Yes.
[14:25] <skelterjohn> foxytheoldone: i will try that
[14:25] <melkor> merp_: does it show up in the side bar of nautilus?
[14:25] <xpistos> MonkeyDust: thanks. I am having some wierd dns issues right now
[14:25] <Marnomancer> I'm still trying to find a lightweight DE with sliding-windows eye-candy
[14:25] <skelterjohn> foxytheoldone: no luck
[14:26] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  ya  i foun the current kernals installed   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078116/
[14:26] <xpistos> like my VM that uses a VPN connection is good. but my home stuff is botched
[14:26] <merp_> IBus 001 Device 007: ID 040a:0408 Kodak Co.   is what it says
[14:26] <foxytheoldone> skelterjohn, your mac is set to use the 8.8.8.8 for dns lookup ?
[14:27] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078118/
[14:27] <skelterjohn> foxytheoldone: no, but i'm not even trying to do lookups yet - i'm just trying to ping an outside IP
[14:27] <skelterjohn> for instance, 8.8.8.8
[14:27] <melkor> merp_: okay, what about if you open the file manager on the side it will have Device, Computer Network etc. Is ther something in that column that could be your camera?
[14:27] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  can you see that
[14:28] <Marnomancer> I'm still trying to find a lightweight DE with sliding-windows eye-candy
[14:28] <mithran> are you there?
[14:28] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  are you there?
[14:28] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: let me check it
[14:28] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok
[14:28] <merp_> File manager?
[14:28] <skelterjohn> mithran: he or she is helping like 9 different people concurrently - give him or her a minute :)
[14:28] <guest-QTPNM0> sahand20
[14:28] <merp_> sorry if im being difficult but what file manager :P
[14:29] <Chad___> merp_: nautilus
[14:29] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: and the output of:  sudo apt-get install wine
[14:29] <fooscript> hello :) I 've altered my grub.cfg , but after reboot the same OS is being booted by default. I heard there's a single-command solution for that. Ideas? :)
[14:29] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, sorry forgot the wine part http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078120/
[14:29] <mithran> skelterjohn:  ok dud..
[14:29] <mithran> :)
[14:29] <gitesh> I have downloaded adobe reader , how do i install on here(ubuntu 12.04) ?
[14:29] <merp_> Sorry, I still have no clue what you're talking about
[14:29] <melkor> merp_: do you know how to open the file manager? Nautilus?
[14:30] <heraclide> hello :)
[14:30] <merp_> No.
[14:30] <ActionPa1snip> mithran: sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic; sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic linux-image-3.0.0-24-generic
[14:30] <thiebaude> !nautilus
[14:30] <merp_> Wow, I feel slightly derpy.
[14:30] <skelterjohn> merp_: enter "nautilus" in a terminal
[14:30] <honspace> = =
[14:31] <wolverine> hello everyone
[14:31] <merp_> erm, all that did was open my home folder
[14:31] <Marnomancer> hello
[14:31] <honspace> 一直不知道 用unbuntu的这么多
[14:31] <melkor> merp_: that is good, then do you have the sidebar showing places?
[14:31] <Chad___> merp_: To the left, do you see your camera listed?
[14:31] <LjL> !cn | honspace
[14:31] <merp_> No. Yesterday it did. It said sd.
[14:31] <heraclide> stupid question, having /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action in apparmor means that apparmor will launch sometimes dhclient on interfaces ? Because I have a strange problem, I set eth0 to static on one server, and see dhclient request in /var/log/syslog
[14:32] <honspace>   wo ca
[14:32] <merp_> I didn't know the file navigator was called nautilus...
[14:32] <melkor> merp_: there isn't an unknown entry there?
[14:32] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: ok and the output of:  lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep wine
[14:32] <merp_> Nope.
[14:32] <honspace>  I can't konw you say
[14:32] <melkor> merp_: open a terminal then and type lsblk
[14:32] <honspace>    不知道是不是这么说
[14:33] <bazhang> honspace, /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:33] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078125/
[14:33] <merp_> done.
[14:33] <melkor> merp_: when you plug in your camera does it ask you a question. Such as whether you should enter usb mode?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[14:33] <thiebaude> !cn
[14:34] <daptordarattler> shaneo: u didnt install wine from ppa did u?
[14:34] <merp_> No, it pretty much just sits there.
[14:34] <melkor> merp_: how many block devices does it show? There should be one for your camera.
[14:34] <shaneo> daptordarattler, i did but purged it and now there is no sign of it
[14:34] <merp_> 3
[14:34] <bluezone> I preformed a partial upgrade yesterday and now the genuine gnome bars with the close, maximize, and minimize buttons are gone for each program. Perhaps i can restart gnome ? how?
[14:34] <daptordarattler> shaneo: I think there is a force package in your box that is causing these errors in other packages
[14:34] <honspace>   64bit can use wine?
[14:34] <merp_> 3-5
[14:34] <merp_> not sure what counts as block device
[14:34] <shaneo> daptordarattler, your prob right :( i just wish i could fix it
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: you missed the first bit...
[14:35] <mithran> ActionPa1snip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078126/
[14:35] <merp_> NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda      8:0    0 298.1G  0 disk  ├─sda1   8:1    0 295.4G  0 part / ├─sda2   8:2    0     1K  0 part  └─sda5   8:5    0   2.8G  0 part [SWAP] sr0     11:0    1   4.4G  0 rom
[14:35] <daptordarattler> shaneo: but when u purged it did u remove the ppa like ActionPa1snip told u?
[14:35] <melkor> sda, sdb
[14:35] <merp_> is what it says
[14:35] <shaneo> daptordarattler, yup
[14:35] <honspace>   wo ca
[14:35] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, what first bit?
[14:35] <honspace> kan bu dong
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: ok and the output of:  lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep wine
[14:35] <bazhang> honspace, please stop that
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: then realise what you ran...
[14:35] <melkor> merp_: are you sure there isn't a switch on your camera then, it doen't appear that you have a entry for the camera. It should probably be sdb
[14:36] <xpistos> I guess open dns is having problems
[14:36] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078128/
[14:36] <xpistos> cause I switched over to google's dns and my ubuntu machines are fine now
[14:36] <honspace>  = =  .
[14:36] <merp_> Oh, by the by, just upgraded ubuntu to precise pangolin
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: try:  sudo dpkg -P wine1.5 wine1.5-amd64 wine1.5-i386:i386 playonlinux
[14:37] <merp_> ncase that matters
[14:37] <BluesKaj> xpistos, OpenDNS is fine here
[14:37] <merp_> my camera has no switches
[14:37] <melkor> merp_: you said the camera was recognized yesterday, but today it is not recognized.
[14:37] <thiebaude> BluesKaj: same here with me on chrome
[14:37] <merp_> that is correct.
[14:37] <melkor> merp_: did you upgrade between those times?
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: the packages are still known to the package system, that's why using --purge when you remove packages helps :)
[14:37] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok than try and reinstall
[14:37] <merp_> no, right before the first time.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, yeah and FF as well
[14:37] <thiebaude> :)
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> melkor  same here, i have an integrated camera, ok, external usb camera is found in lsusb, but not in cheese
[14:38] <corvaxia> Are there any high quality ultrabooks that are ubuntu certified or driver-wise might as well be? I currently have ubuntu installed on my macbook and the touchpad is driving me nuts.
[14:38] <melkor> merp_: unplug it and plug it back in, then check lsblk and see if you have an sdb
[14:38] <wessel> Why is the colon a reserved character in file names?
[14:38] <xpistos> I don't know I changed mine from opendns to google's public and now it is fine
[14:38] <merp_> no sdb.
[14:38] <merp_> waity
[14:38] <merp_> wait*
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> wessel  because it divides commands on one line
[14:39] <merp_> yes there is
[14:39] <melkor> MonkeyDust: he wants to access the files, not the video camera.
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> wessel  divides = separated
[14:39] <merp_> sdb      8:16   1   1.9G  0 disk  └─sdb1   8:17   1   1.9G  0 part
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> melkor  ah, it's different then
[14:39] <melkor> merp_: I suspect you can see it in nautilus then.
[14:39] <honspace> Who is Chinese!
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> corvaxia: system76
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> !cn| honspace
[14:40] <merp_> nope.
[14:40] <corvaxia> i didnt think they did ultrabooks yet.
[14:40] <bazhang> honspace, we have told you many times: #ubuntu-cn for that
[14:40] <melkor> merp_: do you have the 'places' side pane open?
[14:40] <merp_> erm
[14:40] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, it still wont allow me to install wine have two wine pkgs left and cant purge them due to dep issues
[14:40] <icat> 怎麼自動退出了？
[14:40] <merp_> the one that says computer and under that network?
[14:41] <corvaxia> P.S. melkor I loved your work in pitch black :D
[14:41] <melkor> Yes.
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: what if you remove the packages?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> !cn| icat same to you
[14:41] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, shiki-wine-theme && gnome-wine-icon-theme
[14:41] <jojo_> how do i get this static.howstuffworks.com/flash/cd-read.swf converted into an avi file?
[14:41] <jojo_> i tried ffmpeg -i cd-read.swf cd-read.avi but that said could not find codec parameters
[14:41] <jojo_> i tried youconvertit.com and it failed to convert
[14:41] <merp_> yes its open
[14:41] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok got it :)
[14:42] <xpistos> Tried to /etc/init.d/nscd restart and it says wrong number of arguments/
[14:42] <xpistos> ?
[14:42] <melkor> merp_: I'm surprised there isn't an option for your sd card, but you can mount the camera manually if you like.
[14:42] <merp_> I would love to.
[14:42] <merp_> but how>
[14:42] <melkor> merp_: make a directory somewhere you like.
[14:43] <melkor> merp_: mkdir my_camera_mount_point
[14:43] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok removed them and still cant install wine
[14:43] <merp_> done
[14:43] <melkor> merp_: and then mount the camera: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 my_camera_mount_point
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: did you remove the PPA too?
[14:44] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, yes
[14:44] <icat> xchat在dash裏面怎麼打不開聊天窗口啊？
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: ok, run:  sudo apt-get install wine      pastebin the output please
[14:44] <merp_> Thanks!!!
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: obviously run:  sudo apt-get update   first
[14:44] <icat> hello
[14:44] <merp_> melkor you are the best!!!
[14:44] <merp_> Bye yall!
[14:45] <melkor> good luck
[14:45] <heraclide> stupid question, having /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action in apparmor means that apparmor will launch sometimes dhclient on interfaces ? Because I have a strange problem, I set eth0 to static on one server, and see dhclient request in /var/log/syslog
[14:45] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, yes i know and i did and still complaining about deps
[14:45] <bazhang> icat this is english only
[14:45] <icat> 靠  进错了，我说没有中文的  频道进错了
[14:45] <bazhang> icat for chinese support use #ubuntu-cn
[14:45] <xpistos> Do I have to actually start nscd first?
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> shaneo: can you pastebin the text please
[14:46] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078142/
[14:47] <Ewoq> how to make ap wifi with intel 5100 card? it's possible?
[14:48] <Sicp``> I keep getting the following when trying to "make" a wireless dongle driver
[14:48] <Sicp``> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `Driver'. Stop.
[14:48] <Sicp``> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-26-generic-pae'
[14:48] <Sicp``> make: *** [default] Error 2
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> !ics| Ewoq
[14:48] <Sicp``> I have the build-essential package, and the headers are up to date
[14:49] <daptordarattler> shaneo:was there ever an app u installed forcfully from an off or weired source?
[14:49] <Dr_willis_> Sicp``,  you did a ./configure first?
[14:49] <shaneo> daptordarattler, no
[14:49] <dak0> Hey guys, I can't change the NVIDIA Power settings from adaptive to Maximum Performance. Can anybody help me I can provide screenshots or anything else you need. Thanks
[14:49] <daptordarattler> shaneo: what is your distro version
[14:49] <Sicp``> the instructions didn't say so, Dr_willis
[14:49] <Sicp``> I will do that now
[14:49] <Sicp``> no such file/directory
[14:49] <shaneo> daptordarattler, 12.04 lts
[14:50] <daptordarattler> hmmmm
[14:51] <sunshinehappy> can I use gksudo to xchat?
[14:51] <bazhang> sunshinehappy, dont do that
[14:52] <dak0> Hey guys, I can't change the NVIDIA Power settings from adaptive to Maximum Performance. Can anybody help me I can provide screenshots or anything else you need. Thanks
[14:52] <ActionPa1snip> sunshinehappy: why would you want to? Not very secure...
[14:52] <sunshinehappy> why is it not secure?
[14:52] <ActionPa1snip> !rootirc | sunshinehappy
[14:52] <bazhang> sunshinehappy, its root irc
[14:52] <Chad___> How do I mount an external hard drive automatically on login?
[14:52] <ActionPa1snip> sunshinehappy: also, what benfit does it get you?
[14:52] <bazhang> Chad___, put it in fstab
[14:52] <daptordarattler> shaneo: first it said wine1.5 now it says wine1.4 what changed?
[14:52] <bazhang> !fstab | Chad___
[14:53] <Chad___> bazhang: Thanks
[14:53] <shaneo> daptordarattler, wine1.5 was from a ppa and wine1.4 is from the reps
[14:53] <shaneo> *repos
[14:53] <Sicp``> will doing this "sudo apt-get install linux-source" download "linux-source-VERSION.tar.bz2" into "/usr/src"?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078145/   try running that
[14:55] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok ill try and let u know
[14:55] <sunshinehappy> do many people irc as root?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: hopefully none
[14:55] <Chad___> bazhang: Will the filesystem always reside in the same location?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: why do you want to?
[14:55] <crazymindstorm> oes anyone know a easy to configurate irc server ??
[14:55] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, do i also enter the LANG=C
[14:55] <bazhang> sunshinehappy, thats not a support question, really. it's a very bad idea, however
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: run each line in turn, just not the top line
[14:56] <sunshinehappy> why does ubottu have a fact about irc as root?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: because it's a bad idea. Why do you want to run an irc client as root? What do you hope to gain?
[14:56] <freakynl> where does one *report* bugs? I can browse a ton of them on launchpad but no buttons to create em anywhere
[14:56] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, LANG=C;sudo apt-get autoclean  -o APT::Cache-Limit=25165824 LANG=C is a command?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: open a terminal and run;  ubuntu-bug packagename   to start the process
[14:57] <fluffyguy> Guys anyone know is there something like this http://www.highspheres.com/products/pc_chrono/ on linux?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: yes, each line is a command...
[14:57] <Sicp``> will doing this "sudo apt-get install linux-source" download "linux-source-VERSION.tar.bz2" into "/usr/src"?
[14:57] <Pinkamena_D> hi i *accidentally* flushed my ip rules
[14:57] <shaneo> ActionPa1snip, ok just checking never seen LANG=C before
[14:57] <Sicp``> yes it does, sorry
[14:57] <Pinkamena_D> is their a way to restore them or can someone help me create the default ones back?
[14:57] <fluffyguy> Im doing tabatha interval ketlebell swings so I would appreciate alternative software
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: it's basicallt step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Pinkamena_D: use your backups
[14:59] <xpistos> does nscd need to be configured to work?
[14:59] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok thanks ill let you know how it works out
[14:59] <Pinkamena_D> its a server and i have most things that i dont want changed back
[14:59] <Kapli> I'm trying to install a fresh new ubuntu 12.04, I'm now running 10.04, but while booting up the installer cd it just hangs on the loading screen for the installer, any ideas as to why this is?
[14:59] <Pinkamena_D> is their a way to just have only the routing table restored
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Kapli: what video chip do you use?
[15:00] <merp_> Hi again guys
[15:00] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[15:00] <shaneo> rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/*.bin': No such file or directory
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: then run the next command
[15:00] <merp_> when i try to unmount the camera it says umount: /home/ubik/camera is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[15:00] <Kapli> ActionParsnip: ATI radeon x600
[15:00] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Kapli: try the boot option: nomodeset
[15:00] <melkor> shaneo: there is a command to remove .deb's
[15:01] <Kapli> how do I change the boot option?
[15:01] <melkor> merp_: sudo umount
[15:01] <Chad___> merp_: sudo umount
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Kapli
[15:01] <merp_> Oh, I tried unmount. not lots of luck, i guess.
[15:01] <melkor> merp_: You might want to add a line to your fstab so that you can mount / unmount your camera without being root.
[15:02] <merp_> Would it be possible to make a script that when i run it it mounts the camera and another to unmount?
[15:02] <melkor> merp_: absolutely.
[15:02] <merp_> Thanks, ill do that.
[15:02] <jelly-home> Hello.  What tool can I use to read and send SMS messages off a Huawei E180 3g usb modem in 12.04?
[15:02] <Pinkamena_D> ok wel
[15:02] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078153/
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: if you run:  df -h   do you have lots of spare space on your partitions?
[15:03] <merp_> how do i edit fstab?
[15:03] <crazymindstorm> @jelly-home u can use umtsmon with your 3g card
[15:03] <Pinkamena_D> i believe that the table is half there after an attempt, for example under default if you type route -n you should at least see the two routes, one with the gateway as 0.0.0.0 and one with the destination as 0.0.0.0
[15:03] <bazhang> with a text editor merp_
[15:03] <niadh> Hey, I am working on Ubuntu app showdown and I need to get some basic things set up, for instance how can I upload a deb via quickly and can I upload my bazaar repo direct to launchpad?
[15:04] <bazhang> !fstab | merp_ have a read please
[15:04] <Pinkamena_D> i have th eone with the gateway at 0.0.0.0 but not the other
[15:04] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, yup http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078156/
[15:04] <jelly-home> crazymindstorm: apt-cache search umtsmon shows nothing, not a part of the distro?
[15:04] <Pinkamena_D> is their a tutorial for creating this?
[15:04] <merp_> Oh. Thanks.
[15:04] <crazymindstorm> jelly-home i will post a link if i find it again :)
[15:04] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, should i just continue entering the commands?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: looks good, I'd keep ploghing down the list, may help
[15:05] <jelly-home> crazymindstorm: I'm able to google, just hoped for a ready tool
[15:05] <crazymindstorm> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/UMTSmon
[15:05] <sunshinehappy> how can you tell who is irc as root?
[15:05] <ikonia> sunshinehappy: their whois
[15:05] <daptordarattler> shaneo: I think you should
[15:05] <sunshinehappy> ?
[15:06] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078160/
[15:06] <crazymindstorm> jelly-home sry its german
[15:06] <jelly-home> crazymindstorm: and the cvs tree looks a bit stale, last update 3 years ago
[15:07] <merp_> I probs sound like an idiot but what do i add/remove to fstab?
[15:07] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, i have been getting that same error for the last 6 commands
[15:07] <Chad___> merp_: I'm confused as well.
[15:07] <sunshinehappy> badhost host="root@*" reason="Don't irc as root!"
[15:08] <bazhang> !blkid | merp_
[15:08] <crazymindstorm> jelly-home it wrks fine on newer distros had it at last in an actual ubuntu witch shuld bee 12xx
[15:08] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, is there a recommended size i should increase the cache limit to?
[15:08] <bazhang> sunshinehappy, yes we told you that already. why are you continuing to ask
[15:08] <merp_> i don't understand what either of you said...
[15:08] <sunshinehappy> ?
[15:08] <jojo_> how do i get this http://static.howstuffworks.com/flash/cd-read.swf to be a .avi on my computer?
[15:08] <shaneo> sunshinehappy, DONT USE IRC AS ROOT
[15:09] <bazhang> merp_, get the uuid from that command.  put it in fstab
[15:09] <merp_> Thanks!
[15:09] <shaneo> sunshinehappy, there is no need for it i dont know what your trying to accomplish doing so all irc commands and functions can be ran as user
[15:09] <bazhang> jojo_, you dont need it to be avi, thats only a container
[15:09] <sunshinehappy> how do I test whether my IRC is root? (I am using xchat)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: what do you gain by running an irc client as root, as opposed to a user?
[15:10] <ikonia> sunshinehappy: are you using it on ubuntu ?
[15:10] <bazhang> sunshinehappy, its not. please stop repeating that
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: if you use it as your user and not use gksudo, it's running as user
[15:10] <merp_> bazhang, its just sitting there not doing anything after i type the command
[15:10] <niadh> Quickly cannot push to launchpad, can someone help?
[15:10] <sunshinehappy> ok
[15:10] <shaneo> sunshinehappy, what are you trying to accomplish
[15:10] <jojo_> bazhang: uh, i do need it to be an .avi because i need it in a beamer presentation, but way to prescribe my needs to me
[15:10] <bazhang> merp_, where did you type the sudo blkid command
[15:11] <merp_> in terminal
[15:11] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, what should i increase my MMap size to in order to get the commands to function properly
[15:11] <primefalcon> quick question whats the room name of the general ubuntu chat rather than tech help
[15:11] <bazhang> jojo_, could you explain a bit more please, what is a 'beamer'
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: not sure, the numbers are the ones from the how-to, they may have been revised...
[15:12] <jojo_> bazhang: beamer as in LaTeX presentations
[15:12] <bazhang> primefalcon, #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:12] <primefalcon> bazhang: thx :-)
[15:12] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok well i guess i dont really need wine especially it its going to be this much trouble
[15:12] <shaneo> *if
[15:13] <sunshinehappy> why does root show up as "root@*"
[15:13] <shaneo> sunshinehappy, because your running as root
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: gone
[15:13] <primefalcon> sunshinehappy: user@machinename
[15:13] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, gone?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: it's also "you're"  ;)
[15:14] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, lol sorry
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: ikonia kicked him/her
[15:14] <merp_> blkid doesnt do anything
[15:14] <merp_> its just sitting there
[15:14] <infinityartworx> any sogo tutorial for centos here ?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> infinityartworx: centos is offtopic here
[15:15] <ikonia> infinityartworx: try #centos
[15:16] <Pinkamena_D> please, is their a channel for natworking in ubuntu?
[15:16] <ikonia> Pinkamena_D: just ask here
[15:16] <Chad___> bazhang: What do I do for the dump and fsck order? My ftsab looks like this so far UUID=12cf3f94-d719-438b-a179-acd6218c3e64 /media/SG ext4 auto,user
[15:16] <Pinkamena_D> sorry, i have about 5 minutes ago
[15:17] <Pinkamena_D> lol, have you told me that before, i feel like someone said the same thing
[15:17] <primefalcon> Pinkamena_D:  typing /list will get you a room list, but it'll be a long list
[15:17] <Pinkamena_D> if no one here knows what its called then theirs no one in it anyway ;(
[15:18] <batte>  Back
[15:19] <mjwillz4> What is the most user friendly VM manager?
[15:19] <ikonia> depends what vm technology you are using
[15:19] <jn1> awesome wm
[15:19] <gogli> ikonia : : (
[15:19] <Debolaz> mjwillz4: For desktop use, VirtualBox. For server use, ProxMox.
[15:19] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, Ok so i changed the 2's in those mem caches to 5 and everything finished what should i do when it completes?
[15:20] <mjwillz4> I would be using it for XP, there is only a couple programs I would not be able to run under ubuntu, so I do need access to XP
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[15:20] <Debolaz> mjwillz4: Then I would recommend VirtualBox.
[15:20] <mjwillz4> Thanks.
[15:20] <markus__> hey, anybody else is having issues with their install of diablo 3 on ubuntu ? my cd reader / writer is kinda broken, and it did eat the diablo 3 install disk after one ussage... then my internet gabe up and now the game says it is fully updated but i don't think so... i can launch the game, and see the awsome render intro, i even get to the login screen, can enter my password and stuff but when it comes to the character screen it do
[15:20] <markus__> esn't work... so i m thinking that it might have something todo with a messed up installation... i already downloaded the online installer from blizzard.net and try to run it throw wine, but that doesn't work either it gives some weird error messages  like: error code BLZPTS000007 can't run Agent programm something like that... i don' want to install windows just to fix this
[15:21] <ikonia> markus__: diablo is a windows game
[15:21] <Gosset_Inofensiu> hi i've been searching the web but no solution to my problem with nautilus when opening a NTFS partition. The problem is reproduced under gnome and ubuntu
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> markus__: did you check the appdb for cmpatibility?
[15:21] <markus__> yeah, i did check that... i installed it throw playoflinux
[15:21] <ikonia> markus__: depending on wine as a solution will end in dissapointment
[15:21] <ikonia> markus__: therefore, if you want to play windows games without issue, I'd advise you to use windows
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> markus__: I'd ask in #winehq
[15:22] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, nope still wont install
[15:22] <markus__> thanks for the advice, so i guess i will have to install windoof again -.-
[15:22] <markus__> fix the problem with my game install, and pray to god it works then
[15:22] <ikonia> markus__: if it works today, it may / may not work tomorrowo
[15:23] <ikonia> markus__: as games release patches/requirements change wine may/may not work
[15:23] <mjwillz4> Markus, I just tried to install D3 through playonlinux.
[15:23] <ikonia> so using it as a long term stable solution, is not something I personally advise
[15:23] <Gosset_Inofensiu> I'm sorry to bother you all, but each time I open a NTFS partition under Ubuntu Nautilus get 100% CPU and freezes
[15:23] <mjwillz4> It hung at the download, and the ncrashed.
[15:23] <markus__> yeah, that could also had happend to me, though i blame my cd rom drive too
[15:24] <markus__> thanks for you advices though i m gonna dig for that install disc for windoof of mine -.-
[15:24] <ikonia> markus__: that's my personal opinion, others are happy with the limitations / risks of using wine as a solution
[15:25] <Gosset_Inofensiu> nobody?
[15:27] <Chad___> If I have an extrenal hard drive, should the fstab fsck order be 0 or 2?
[15:28] <i7c> Gosset_Inofensiu: is your ntfs partition healthy?
[15:29] <compdoc> Chad___, anything other than the boot drive tends to be 2
[15:29] <Chad___> compdoc: Thank you very much!
[15:29] <primefalcon> i got a freaken email for at&t warning me that my computer is compromised due to irc traffic...........
[15:30] <MacroMan> Is there a terminal command to find out the character encoding of a file? eg utf8 or iso-8859-1
[15:31] <Gosset_Inofensiu> i7c, yes it is
[15:31] <Sicp``> ugh, drivers!
[15:31] <Sicp``> fuck make.
[15:31] <bazhang> Sicp``, no cursing here
[15:31] <Sicp``> oh
[15:31] <alankila> MacroMan: "file" can try to guess it, but if the format doesn't specify it you have to resort to a frequency/language analysis, and other fun statistical stuff like that
[15:31] <Sicp``> **** make
[15:31] <popokpou> hey guys, i'm copying my entire /home directory to a USB stick.. i'm just wondering if i do a general "CP -R /home /pathtousb/" will that copy all the hidden files as well?
[15:31] <bazhang> Sicp``, thats not ok. just dont use stars, or curse
[15:32] <wylde> no obfuscated cursing either :P
[15:32] <mdelcx> popokpou: yes - you should also use -p
[15:32] <Gosset_Inofensiu> maybe was a bad idea to create a NTFS partition to store my data
[15:32] <alankila> popokpou: sure
[15:32] <Gosset_Inofensiu> instead of /home
[15:32] <mdelcx> to preserve permissions
[15:32] <MacroMan> alankila: I'll try and see if I have any luck with file. thanks
[15:32] <popokpou> so i should use -p as well as -R?
[15:32] <mdelcx> cp -Rvp
[15:32] <popokpou> what is -v?
[15:32] <primefalcon> @wylde obfuscated cursing?
[15:32] <mdelcx> v to see wtf you are doing :)
[15:32] <popokpou> oh, great, thanks
[15:32] <popokpou> thanks everyone
[15:32] <bazhang> primefalcon, with stars
[15:32] <popokpou> <3 ubuntu
[15:32] <primefalcon> oh
[15:33] <primefalcon> gotcha
[15:33] <Pici> ikonia: /ll markus__ 10
[15:34] <Pici> ikonia: fail
[15:34] <ikonia> ha ha
[15:34] <merp_> ok i tried making the command to mount my camera
[15:34] <merp_> cd /home/ubik/ sudo mount dv/sdc1 camera sudo mount dv/sdb1 camera
[15:34] <merp_> is how the script goes
[15:34] <merp_> but when i do it
[15:35] <merp_> in terminal it says:
[15:35] <sassas123> Hello, guys! Could you help me with my HP Compaq 630?
[15:35] <merp_> [sudo] password for ubik:  mount: special device dv/sdc1 does not exist mount: special device dv/sdb1 does not exist
[15:35] <merp_> help?
[15:35] <alankila> merp_: use ; to separate statements in one line. And why do you try to mount two devices into same path? And does the directory 'camera' even exist? And it should probably be /dev/sdb1
[15:35] <wylde> merp_: why the cd? also, dev not dv
[15:36] <sassas123> yeah
[15:36] <sassas123> help
[15:36] <revol0xf> merp_: 'dv', it should be /dev/
[15:36] <studio> i have a problem i had a partition for linux-swap but now gparted recognize it as unkown
[15:36] <merp_> alankila, because sometimes the device is coming in as sdc1 or sdb1
[15:36] <bharath> When I am installing lampp in ubuntu ,it gives the error /opt/lampp/lampp: 14: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[15:36] <alankila> merp_: maybe use /dev/disk/by-uuid then
[15:37] <revol0xf> merp_: that's why it is better to mount using uuid
[15:37] <bazhang> bharath, you mean lamp
[15:37] <merp_> sassas123, could you be more specific
[15:37] <bharath> bazhang: yeah
[15:37] <bazhang> bharath, use the lamp from ubuntu, not in /opt
[15:37] <wylde> bharath: why not use the solution from the repos?
 merp_: maybe use /dev/disk/by-uuid then [10:37] <revol0xf> merp_: that's why it is better to mount using uuid i cant mount normally, idk why.
[15:37] <genii-around> merp_: So as I understand... your camera behaves a hard drive, and you want to see what is on it from the computer?
[15:38] <wylde> bharath: 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel;' select the lamp option ;)
[15:38] <merp_> genii-around, exactly.
[15:38] <sassas123> I use HP Compaq 630. And I really can't use the ethernet port. I've installed all drivers I could but it was no result
[15:38] <genii-around> revol0xf: Some cameras are dv ( firewire)
[15:38] <studio> i have a problem i had a partition for linux-swap but now gparted recognize it as unkown
[15:38] <wylde> shame they stopped installing tasksel by default :(
, how old is the computer?
[15:39] <bharath> bazhang: How can I install from ubuntu
[15:39] <wylde> bharath: 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel;' select the lamp option ;)
[15:39] <bazhang> bharath, wylde told you twice now
[15:40] <wylde> bharath: tasksel is the easiest method IMHO
[15:40] <genii-around> merp_: If you unplug it, then plug it back in... then: dmesg|tail      and see what designation it got like sdd or sde  or so on. Then the mount is like:  sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mountpoint       where mountpoint is a directory like /mnt  for instance.
[15:40] <sassas123> I bought it today)
[15:40] <bharath> wylde: ok
[15:40] <merp_> bro, no worries, just have to replace dv with dev
[15:40] <alankila> and if scripting is desired, it will always appear by same (long) uuid under /dev/disk/by-uuid
[15:41] <mjwillz4> I've been looking around for why my 2nd monitor isn't being detected, and my primary monitor is listed  as "laptop", is there any general solutions for 12.04?
[15:41] <luzil> Hi
[15:41] <studio> i have a problem i had a partition for linux-swap but now gparted recognize it as unkown
[15:41] <revol0xf> merp_: because uuid will remain the same and you don't have to worry about the changing device file name.
[15:41] <alankila> so that is why uuids beat dealing with the device names... because they identify the partition, not the way it is accessed
[15:41] <luzil> is there a folder like program files in windows in ubuntu where i can see which software was installed, update to 12 lts broke my system "no filessystem could mount root", i can access the old partitions via ubuntu live cd and want to note down my installed programs for new 12 lts clean install. Anyone has a tip to get that list?
[15:41] <dury> hi there  channel :-)
[15:41] <merp_> namesake
[15:41] <compdoc> studio, does disk utility say the drive is healthy?
[15:41] <merp_> already did all that work
[15:42] <studio> compdoc:tes
[15:42] <studio> compdoc:yes
[15:42] <alankila> luzil: dpkg --get-selections maybe
[15:42] <wylde> luzil: chroot in and use 'dpkg -get-selections
[15:42] <dury> in 12.04 LTS there is not xscreensaver :-(
[15:42] <genii-around> merp_: Also as many are saying you may want to use UUID and make an entry in the /etc/fstab for it with that, so if you plug/unplug a lot of usb storage things, it will always know certain one is the same as before
[15:42] <compdoc> studio, partitions dont just disappear. what do you think happened?
[15:42] <sassas123> I use Xubuntu 12.04. But i think it is not imporant
[15:42] <wylde> !chroot | luzil
[15:43] <merp_> I cant find uuid for camera -_-
[15:43] <mjwillz4> Studio, have you messed around with which port the harddrives are plugged into?
[15:43] <studio> compdoc:its here the partition didnt disappeared
[15:43] <mjwillz4> I had a similar issue and can give you what fixed mine
[15:43] <studio> :no
[15:43] <dury> it's installed but it doesn't start  automaticlly
[15:43] <jojo_> how do i get http://static.howstuffworks.com/flash/cd-read.swf to be a .avi so i can have it play in a beamer LaTeX presentation?
[15:44] <ignerious> how to change permission for folder and its content through terminal
[15:44] <ignerious> ??
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[15:44] <nannes> Hey hey hey I got an unattended problem
[15:44] <dury> automaticlyy = automatically
[15:44] <dury> sorry
[15:44] <compdoc> studio, if the swap partition is unknown, its changed, deleted, or damaged
[15:44] <dury> automaticlly = automatically
[15:45] <nannes> I created Kubuntu installation on my usb-drive (with startup disc creator)
[15:45] <cabrera> hola
[15:45] <cabrera> quiseira saber como puedo hacer una conecxion ssh
[15:45] <cabrera> con
[15:45] <cabrera> xubuntu
[15:45] <studio> compdoc:i didnt do anything
[15:45] <ignerious> how to change permission for folder and its content through terminal
[15:45] <bazhang> !ssh | cabrera
[15:45] <bazhang> cabrera, english here please
[15:45] <wylde> ignerious: 'chmod -R <perms> /path/to/dir'
[15:46] <bazhang> cabrera, #ubuntu-es for spanish if you wish
[15:46] <nannes> And I was using it for a test.... obviously it didn't ask any password to enter
[15:46] <nannes>  now I rebooted, and appeared the login screen asking for user/pass!!! what can I do?!?!? :( :(
[15:46] <dury> bazhang: any idea?
[15:46] <cabrera> thanks
[15:46] <cabrera> bye
[15:46] <ignerious> perms=??
[15:46] <wylde> !permission | ignerious: also see this:
[15:46] <bazhang> dury, about what?
[15:46] <compdoc> studio, luckily, the system can boot and run without the swap. how long has it been that way?
[15:47] <studio> compdoc:today i noticed that
[15:47] <dury> xscreensaver  bazhang
[15:47] <genii-around> merp_: To find the camera UUID first you have to mount it with the /dev/sdX# way. Then you issue: sudo blkid     and it will give you the UUID
[15:47] <dury> bazhang: in 12.04 LTS
[15:47] <wylde> ignerious: yes, like 0755 <--- that would make it read/write for the owner, 0500 <--- readable ONLY by owner and not group and not world
[15:48] <compdoc> studio, its possible its been that way for a while, then. Maybe some program you installed did that
[15:48] <bazhang> dury, what is the actual question
[15:48] <mjwillz4> I've been looking around for why my 2nd monitor isn't being detected, and my primary monitor is listed  as "laptop", is there any general solutions for 12.04?
[15:48] <Pinkamena_D> help i am trying to create my default routes back after i flushed them and when i put sudo ip route add default via 192.168.3.1 it says "rnet link : no such process"
[15:48] <studio> compdoc:i dont know maybe but how can i fix this
[15:48] <merp_> nvm, scripts are done, need no more help, sorry for seeming to be a jerk but i cant use uuid.
[15:48] <bazhang> mjwillz4, using xrandr ?
[15:48] <wylde> ignerious: there shouold be a better explanation at the link the bot posted.
[15:48] <wylde> should*
[15:49] <compdoc> studio, if youre sure its the swap partition, and its not being used somehow, recreate it with gparted
[15:49] <studio> compdoc:i tried i cant
[15:49] <dury> bazhang: I want to xscreensaver to start automatically without launch it
[15:49] <compdoc> what happens?
[15:49] <luzil> thanks but how does chroot help me, i cannot even boot old ubuntu 11, only access partition via live usb and ubuntuforums told me to do clean install with this upgrade problem
[15:49] <mjwillz4> Bazhang, I got a result off of it, but it only detects one display
[15:50] <studio> compdoc:wait iam gonna reboot and see if the problem persists
[15:50] <compdoc> ok
[15:51] <wylde> luzil: you chroot into the old filesystem from the live usb, then use the dpkg --get-selections to list all the installed applications.
[15:51] <dury> bazhang: this the messege I got whenever I launch it -> The Xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0" Launch it now
[15:51] <ignerious> how to change owner and group for a folder and all it content??
[15:52] <ignerious> how to change owner and group for a folder and all it content??
[15:52] <sassas123> guys, my ethernet port doesn't avaliable in Ubuntu. What should I do?
[15:52] <genii-around> ignerious: First it begs the question of what folder....
[15:52] <wylde> ignerious: I told you already. What permissions and owner do you want for the directory
[15:52] <compdoc> sudo chown -R user:user folder
[15:52] <nannes> ignerious:  man chown
[15:52] <compdoc> but be very careful
[15:52] <dury> messege = message
[15:53] <compdoc> *sudo chown -R user:group folder
[15:53] <genii-around> compdoc: Lots of people seem to be doing something like chown -R myuser:myuser /var/www    and similar things
[15:53] <compdoc> sometimes, you need to. hope they know what theyre doing
[15:53] <dury> bazhang: any idea about it?
[15:54] <wylde> I configure my apache root directory into a public_html folder in home personally.
[15:55] <ignerious> thanks
[15:55] <ignerious> :)
[15:55] <fuzz> v
[15:56] <studio> compdoc:when i try to format as swap it says that device or reource is busy
[15:56] <genii-around> wylde: Yes, I find thats the best thing too, with user_dirs or such
[15:56] <studio> resource
[15:57] <compdoc> studio, then its in use.
[15:57] <studio> compdoc:but its unkown type
[15:57] <ganeshp> Hello Everyone
[15:57] <wylde> genii-around: yep, mind you I have to on my vps anyway heh. With all users proplerly jailed to their $HOME
[15:58] <Pinkamena_D> help i am trying to create my default routes back after i flushed them and when i put sudo ip route add default via 192.168.3.1 it says "rnet link : no such process"
[15:58] <compdoc> studio, you using gparted?
[15:58] <studio> compdoc:yes
[15:59] <compdoc> studio, did you create the partitions by hand when you installed, or did you let the installer create them?
[15:59] <studio> compdoc: i did
[16:00] <compdoc> you did something wrong
[16:00] <studio> compdoc:i dont think so i ve done this so many tines
[16:00] <studio> times*
[16:00] <compdoc> studio, look at fstab, and see whats being done with that partition. how is it being mounted?
[16:01] <compdoc> its  /etc/fstab
[16:01] <m477> how can I check version of my QT?
[16:02] <studio> compdoc: look http://pastebin.com/PJAHHNf4
[16:02] <studio> compdoc:its dev/sda6
[16:04] <ubuntu-lover> hello i am in this irc 5 times
[16:04] <ubuntu-lover> i do not got help
[16:04] <ubuntu-lover> i cant boot my system...i set kerna to nomoseset
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> m477: dpkg -l | grep qt | less       should help
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: what video chip do you use?
[16:05] <ubuntu-lover> then it boot in command mode,but x server doesnot start..and it said nvidia doesnot find any graphics,noveau doesnot find  " " etc
[16:05] <m477> ActionParsnip: yes it helped thx
[16:05] <ubuntu-lover> i custmize my ubuntu
[16:05] <ubuntu-lover> i install this http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[16:05] <bazhang> ubuntu-lover, using the google code usb builder?
[16:05] <ubuntu-lover> no no i am not
[16:06] <ubuntu-lover> i am instal thi smini ubuntu http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[16:06] <ubuntu-lover> in virtual box
[16:06] <bazhang> ubuntu-lover, customize how exactly. be very clear please
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: where you not doing this yesterday too
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:06] <compdoc> studio, open the system monitor. does it show theres a swap, and that its being used?
[16:06] <ubuntu-lover> and i install nessery packages and creal iso image from remastersys
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: tried different settings for the disaply in virtualbox?
[16:06] <ubuntu-lover> it working fine in virtualbox.but having problem in real pc
[16:06] <compdoc> studio, its on the resources tab
[16:07] <studio> compdoc:there is a swap and the number of gb that i assign to it but its not in use
[16:07] <ubuntu-lover> but finally i set nonmodeset to kernal.system boot,,but it stip at command mode.and cant start x server
[16:08] <compdoc> studio, then the partition type mght just be wrong. you can turn swap off, change it, then turn swap on
[16:08] <Oli_> I've tried putting ubuntu on two of my memory sticks, and an external harddrive, but nothing works. I've tried using unetbootin and LiLi usb creator, to no joy. I've set the boot order right in the bios, and it doesn't work on either computer. What could be wrong?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: tried: nouveau.blacklist=1   boot option?
[16:08] <ubuntu-lover> i chek some error..error was nvidia cant find any graphics,novea cant find any grapics, etc
[16:08] <ubuntu-lover> novue is not install in my system
[16:08] <ubuntu-lover> i install mini 26 mb linux and custmize
[16:09] <ubuntu-lover> it nessery that i install noveau for load my graphics
[16:09] <ubuntu-lover> my x server not starting...i guess there is no driver for load graphics
[16:09] <studio> compdoc: how can i do this? :P
[16:09] <ubuntu-lover> even dont have noveau
[16:09] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: why are you trying to make a custom build ?
[16:10] <bazhang> ubuntu-lover, thats very hard to read. please on a single LINE
[16:10] <ubuntu-lover> i dont want un nessry tool,.i want to add my own tool
[16:10] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: ok, well you know it's easier to run ubuntu and just remove what you don't want
[16:10] <compdoc> studio, best way is to boot the Ubuntu live cd, and use gparted to change
[16:10] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: that requires a lot less understanding than trying to build from the groun up
[16:10] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: have you considered going backwards, install ubuntu and remove what you don't need/want
[16:11] <ubuntu-lover> i want to add my own penetration testing tools
[16:11] <ikonia> oh dear
[16:11] <ubuntu-lover> i use remastersys tool for that
[16:11] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: have you considered backtrack-linux ?
[16:11] <studio> compdoc:thats what i thought but now its in unkown format will this solve the problem
[16:11] <wolverine> i was about to suggest that
[16:11] <studio> ?
[16:11] <ubuntu-lover> i know backtrac,backbox,slax
[16:11] <ubuntu-lover> all
[16:11] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: is there a reason you don't want to use backtrack ?
[16:11] <ubuntu-lover> now a new distro will come from injetor team
[16:11] <wolverine> cool
[16:11] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: is there a reason you don't want to use backtrack ?
[16:12] <bharath> wylde: how can I run the lamp now?
[16:12] <ubuntu-lover> yes..backtrack has alot tool..which is not used.and it size very big
[16:12] <studio> compdoc:okay iam gonna try this thanks
[16:12] <compdoc> studio, gparted should show it as a swap partition
[16:12] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: ok, so again, remove what you don't want
[16:12] <ubuntu-lover> i want os size small and only nessery tools
[16:12] <shaneo> hey guys im having issues installing ia32-libs can someone assist me?
[16:12] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: it's approx the same size as ubuntu, so install it and remove what you don't need
[16:12] <compdoc> studio, however, it seems to be working anyway
[16:12] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: again the level of expeirence required is less than building from the ground up
[16:12] <wylde> bharath: how do you mean "run" it? If you completed the installation it should be accessible at http://localhost
[16:12] <ubuntu-lover> i am RHCE
[16:12] <studio> compdoc:in gparted its in unkown format
[16:13] <IdleOne> shaneo: what is the rpoblem?
[16:13] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: so ? you'r enot using Red Hat
[16:13] <ubuntu-lover> IT HARD IT NOT MEAN THAT I SHOULD NOT TRY
[16:13] <mneptok> ubuntu-lover: so start with Fedora and work backwards. or CentOS.
[16:13] <compdoc> studio, on my system, it shows it as swap
[16:13] <ubuntu-lover> before i make my own build
[16:13] <ubuntu-lover> having problem with tht
[16:13] <ubuntu-lover> kindly can u told me solution?
[16:13] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: what do the xorg logs show you ?
[16:13] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: if you are an RHCE debugging an X problem should be quite easy
[16:13] <bharath> wylde: where can I store the php files? and how do I start and stop it?
[16:13] <shaneo> IdleOne, it wont let me install ia32-libs because dep ia32-libs-mulitarch isnt installed
[16:14] <IdleOne> shaneo: install the dep
[16:14] <mneptok> ubuntu-lover: Fedora and CentOS should be your starting point as a RHCE.
[16:14] <ubuntu-lover> it said nvdia does not load any graphics,novuea doesnot find any graphics
[16:14] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: ok, so what are the warnings and what are the critical errors ?
[16:14] <compdoc> studio, gparted says filesystem is linux-swap
[16:14] <ikonia> lets narrow it down
[16:14] <shaneo> IdleOne, I tried than it gave me more dep errors. I used fix broken in synaptic and it seems to be working so ill let you know how it goes
[16:15] <Sargun_Screen> When is 12.04.1 due to relear?
[16:15] <Pici> Sargun_Screen: August 23rd.
[16:15] <wylde> bharath: by default /var/www is the root of the apache webserver(where you put the files) if you want to start/stop the webserver you use 'sudo service apache2 stop/start'
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: tried adding the proprietary video driver to your OS?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Sargun_Screen  august 23
[16:15] <Jayface> gcom
[16:15] <ubuntu-lover> first my system stop at spalsh screen ,so i add nomodeset to grub file,,then it booted in command line..and dont start x..i give startx then it said dvclosing xorg..
[16:15] <ubuntu-lover> like that
[16:15] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: that's not what I asked
[16:15] <wylde> bharath: is this webserver ONLY going to be accessed locally by you?
[16:15] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: what are the warnings and the critical errors from the X log
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: get full updates and install the proprietary driver, may help
[16:15] <bharath> wylde: yeah
[16:16] <bharath> wylde: about phpmyadmin
[16:16] <shaneo> IdleOne, It seems to be installing ALOT of i386 pkgs will it affect my amd64 system?
[16:16] <ubuntu-lover> ithere not much eror,,only nvidia doesnot find any graphics,noveau does not find any graphics
[16:16] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: this is a minimal install with who knows what done to it.
[16:16] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: there will be warnings and critical errors - this is basic stuff for an RHCE, please provide the info
[16:16] <wylde> bharath: ok the you may want to take ownership of the /var/www directory. 'sudo chown -R username:username /var/www'
[16:16] <gitesh> how do i stop downloading via terminal(trying to stop Adobe reader downloading)  ?
[16:17] <Sargun_Screen> So, this bug is set to be fixed in 12.04.01 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/957494 - Where can I get the diff of the mdadm package with the fix?
[16:17] <IdleOne> shaneo: no ia32-libs and multiarch is meant to use both 32 and 64 bit packages
[16:17] <wylde> bharath: you can install that from apt
[16:17] <shaneo> IdleOne, ok thanks
[16:17] <ubuntu-lover> there is warning i was in live system ..now i am in actual system i did not remmebr all 100 line eror
[16:17] <wylde> bharath: 'sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin' then access it at http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[16:17] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: it's not a 100 lines, there will be only a few,
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: it may help, shame the nv driver isn't still around :(
[16:17] <ubuntu-lover> it nessery to have some graphics drive in s ,like noveau
[16:17] <shaneo> IdleOne, so im assuming all the amd64 pkgs are in good shape as its not d/l any amd64 pkgs
[16:18] <ubuntu-lover> ok wait i will get all error and will show u
[16:18] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: I'm sorry, but I'd suggest you stop doing this as you don't appear to have the basic understanding, use backtrack and then remove what you don't want
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> gitesh: ctrl+c will do it
[16:18] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: it's fine - I'm backing away from this now
[16:18] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: I don't wish to progress this any further as you appear to have been trying to do this for days and got nowhere
[16:18] <gitesh> great :) . Thanks ActionParsnip
[16:19] <ubuntu-lover> ok no problem..i will do it myself..
[16:19] <ubuntu-lover> need to spend time but wil do it
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | gitesh you may need this
[16:19] <shaneo> IdleOne, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078271/
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: why not just install minimal to the HDD, then install what you need
[16:20] <IdleOne> shaneo: earlier you had installed libs package from the pre-release correct?
[16:20] <ubuntu-lover> that what i did action
[16:20] <ubuntu-lover> i install minimal
[16:20] <shaneo> IdleOne, i installed from synaptic
[16:21] <IdleOne> shaneo: installed what from synaptic?
[16:21] <wylde> ubuntu-lover: perhaps you should look at blackbuntu
[16:21] <shaneo> IdleOne, ia32libs
[16:21] <ubuntu-lover> comon..is that your answer?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-lover: then install nvidia-current in CLI and you'll get the nvidia driver
[16:21] <ubuntu-lover> i came here for solve problem but u said use that
[16:22] <shaneo> IdleOne, right now synaptic is hanging in the changes window at there error i pasted
[16:22] <shaneo> IdleOne, i dont want to close it for fear that it will break something
[16:22] <IdleOne> shaneo: I don't believe I can help. As I recall from earlier I warned yuo about installing packages from different versions.
[16:23] <IdleOne> shaneo: This is exactly what happens, you end up in a dependency hell loop
[16:24] <IdleOne> shaneo: My best suggestion would be to do a clean install so you can be sure that everything is back to default install. Others may have different ideas.
[16:24] <shaneo> IdleOne, i cant afford to lose all my data so i guess ill just stick with a broken insatall
[16:24] <shaneo> *install
[16:25] <ikonia> shaneo: I'm going to ask you a direct question
[16:25] <wylde> shaneo: make backups?
[16:25] <bharath> wylde: thankyou
[16:25] <ikonia> shaneo: did you install 12.10 packages on a 12.04 system
[16:25] <shaneo> ikonia, nope
[16:25] <wylde> bharath: glad to help :)
[16:25] <shaneo> ikonia, atleast i dont think so
[16:25] <ikonia> shaneo: no, you have no 12.10 packages or repos on your 12.04 system ?
[16:25] <shaneo> ikonia, not that i know of
[16:26] <IdleOne> shaneo: broken installs lead to total data loss. You can do a clean install without formatting /home. when you get to the partitioning part of the install click on advanced and make sure to uncheck the box that says format /home.
[16:26] <ikonia> shaneo: do you have any PPAs ?
[16:26] <shaneo> ikonia, yes i have ppas for some apps like pithos vlc and webupd8
[16:26] <ikonia> shaneo: ok, there we go
[16:26] <ikonia> shaneo: some of those PPA's will create dependency problems
[16:27] <ikonia> shaneo: you cxan "try" ppa-purge, but that will attempt to remove all references to ppa's and it's software, people say this works, I have a negative view on it, but it maybe worth trying
[16:27] <shaneo> ikonia, ok maybe ill try it
[16:27] <ikonia> shaneo: where is your data that you cannot lose ?
[16:27] <shaneo> ikonia, /home
[16:28] <ikonia> shaneo: ok, is /home a seperate partition ?
[16:28] <shaneo> ikonia, no
[16:28] <ikonia> shaneo: how big is the data in need to keep ?
[16:28] <IdleOne> even if it is not on a separate partition the installer can preserve /home.
[16:28] <shaneo> ikonia, 175.6 GB
[16:29] <IdleOne> you just need to make sure you uncheck the proper box in the Advanced setup
[16:29] <ikonia> shaneo: right, ok, so before doing anything else, get a storage solution to back that data up
[16:29] <ikonia> shaneo: do nothing more on that machine until you have backed up that data
[16:29] <shaneo> IdleOne, ok thats all i need i guess as long as i dont lose anything in my home drive
[16:29] <wylde> shaneo: rule 1. Make backups rule 2. Make backups of your backups somewhere else. Rule 3. Make more backups.
[16:29] <IdleOne> shaneo: I would still suggest you backup, you never know what can go wrong.
[16:29] <shaneo> ikonia, ok ill use dejadup to backup the dir's
[16:30] <dougb> i am trying to create a folder that anyone in the www-data group can write to, when i create the folder it shows 'doug doug' which i assume means only i can write to it, when i want it to be 'doug www-data'
[16:30] <mjwillz4> it's kind of the cardinal rule for blizzard game security, you think you need an authenticator? then you need an authenticator.
[16:30] <ikonia> shaneo: whatever method you are comfortable with, but back it up to somewhere on a seperate disk than the one it is on now
[16:30] <dougb> is there anyway to make that happen?
[16:30] <shaneo> ikonia, yeah i have an ext-hdd that should work
[16:30] <ikonia> shaneo: perfect, that will remove and risks/concerns you have on the data loss
[16:31] <shaneo> ikonia, what folder holds all my app data so that i can restore it after re-install
[16:31] <ikonia> shaneo: that is a mixture of places, depends on the application
[16:32] <wylde> dougb: 'chown doug:www-data /path/to/directory' then 'chmod 0770 /path/to/directory' or 0775 if you want it world readable.
[16:32] <shaneo> ikonia, are  the .<app> folders in home usually hold user data and what not
[16:32] <ikonia> shaneo: no
[16:33] <ikonia> shaneo: it depends
[16:33] <wylde> !permission | dougb
[16:33] <shaneo> really all i need to hold on to is my xchat data its the only app that i have fully customized and dont want to lose anything cause it was a pain getting it the way i like
[16:33] <dougb> thanks wylde, that worked.  is it possible for it always to write as the www-data group? we don't want to have to do this everytime we copy files over
[16:33] <shaneo> ikonia, ^^
[16:34] <dougb> cool, i'll read up on that
[16:34] <ikonia> shaneo: right, so that's in .xchat normally
[16:34] <shaneo> ikonia, ok thanks
[16:35] <wylde> dougb: anything written in that directory should be available to anyone who can  read/modify/write files
[16:35] <jakerive1> is there anyone online who has fight .Xauthority problem and won?
[16:35] <wylde> including www-data*
[16:36] <bekks> jakeriver: Which problem?
[16:36] <Sargun_Screen> Will all fixed from quantal be backported to precise?
[16:36] <shaneo> ikonia, ok so after it takes hours to backup I will reinstall... so sad to see all the work i have done die. Thank god i backup all my docs and stuff to clouds
[16:36] <bekks> Sargun_Screen: No.
[16:36] <ubuntu-lover> Finally i solve my problem
[16:36] <dougb> wylde: i wrote a file with my user, and it says 'doug doug' for the user/group settings when i do ls -l, and then when another user tries to open it, nano says 'Warning: No write permission'
[16:37] <wylde> dougb: ahh I see, then I suppose you will need to add them to the www-data group
[16:37] <shaneo> ikonia, IdleOne thank you both for all your help. IdleOne you said when re-installing just go to advanced partitioning options and deselect home and all the stuff should still be there? but will it also carry over any errors?
[16:37] <jakeriver> bekks: i'm trying to log in normally as a user but all i get is the same screen over and over again. logging in as root is possible. i've been googling around and the problem should be with .Xauthority file. i've tried removing it and changing permissions but it just keeps coming back.
[16:37] <dougb> wylde: they are, when i run group 'username' it shows they are both in the www-data group
[16:37] <dougb> do i need to reboot the computer before the changes stick?
[16:38] <wylde> dougb: you shouldn't no
[16:38] <IdleOne> shaneo: it will carry over any mis-configurations if you have made any. but it shouldn't be a problem
[16:38] <wylde> dougb: hmmm moment.
[16:38] <shaneo> IdleOne, ok thanks
[16:38] <dougb> ok thanks wylde
[16:39] <shaneo> IdleOne, ikonia would it be faster to install from cd or usb?
[16:40] <wylde> dougb: I suppose then, maybe www-data should own the directory. Then all users that need to write would be in the www-data group.
[16:40] <IdleOne> takes about the same amount of time, usually 30-45 minutes
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  usb is faster
[16:40] <shaneo> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[16:40] <wylde> dougb: 'chown www-data:www-data /path/to/directory' perhaps.
[16:41] <wylde> dougb: sorry but I have to run for a bit. I hope that solves your issue. If not there's some very knowledgable people in here that can help I'm sure. :)
[16:42] <dougb> ok thanks wylde, it took over permission of the directory and files, but when i write anything new, it doesn't stick
[16:43] <Sargun_Screen> Where can I find "How to use bzr for idiots"
[16:43] <wolverine> Logging of guys
[16:43] <wolverine> see you latwer
[16:43] <wolverine> see you later*
[16:43] <wolverine> good night
[16:44] <pushpop> what a free open source help desk ticketing system that i can run reports from
[16:46] <genii-around> !info otrs
[16:50] <Ojje> Need to create a cron job on my server. i want to run a .php script and im using php as a apache module. Ive created the cronjob with crontab -e and it works so far. Only thing that doesnt work is to load the .php page. I tried to use wget to another server and it works but could i use wget on the same server?
[16:52] <nannes> oooooohh no no, this is comic
[16:52] <nannes> rm foo
[16:52] <storrgie> is there a good article for how to connect an ubuntu server to an AP via wireless
[16:52] <nannes> rm error: cannot remove foo: no space left on device
[16:52] <nannes> o.O
[16:52] <flippo> oops
[16:53] <hellslinger> hi everyone, so I have a server running ubuntu
[16:53] <hellslinger> and apache starts at boot
[16:53] <julio> boa tarde
[16:53] <hellslinger> despite it being removed
[16:53] <hellslinger> from apt
[16:53] <bekks> hellslinger: Please write a full sentence.
[16:54] <Pici> !enter
[16:54] <mneptok> pushpop: also - http://bestpractical.com/rt/
[16:54] <julio> qual o canal portuguese?
[16:54] <hellslinger> does anyone know what package it might be part of? is this a possible intrusion attempt?
[16:54] <Pici> !pt | julio
[16:55] <bekks> hellslinger: Is what a possible intrusion attempt?
[16:55] <hellslinger> the apache2 executable is starting at boot, I believe it was installed as part of the cacti package
[16:56] <hellslinger> I removed apache with apt, but the executable is still there and it is starting at boot
[16:56] <Pici> hellslinger: run dpkg -S /path/to/executable  , and it will tell you what package it was from.
[16:56] <bekks> hellslinger: Then locate it, and check which package provides it (e.g. by using packages.ubuntu.com)
[16:56] <bekks> Or that dpkg attempt :)
[16:56] <hellslinger> Pici: good idea, I'll try that
[16:57] <mjwillz4> When running dual screens, is there a way to make the mouse seem less "sticky" when going from screen to screen?
[16:57] <imbezol> hellslinger: do a "ps fauxww", find the parant apache process, then ls -l /proc/<pid>/exe
[16:57] <imbezol> hellslinger: then run the above dpkg command on that file
[16:59] <nannes> Pleeease help me
[17:00] <hellslinger> bekks, Pici, imbezol: so it was part of apache2-mpm-prefork which didn't appear to conflict with the 'vanilla' apache2 package...
[17:00] <Pici> hellslinger: its a dependency of the apache2 package.
[17:00] <imbezol> nannes: assuming you're in the directory with "foo", what's "df ." show?
[17:00] <bekks> hellslinger: Because you need a worker for the apache :)
[17:00] <itaws> what is backtrack-linux ?
[17:00] <hellslinger> NetworkManager was pegging 1 CPU at 100% while it was running, which is how I became suspicious of apache2 to begin with
[17:01] <imbezol> hellslinger: i've seen that before.. networkmanager is just buggy
[17:01] <nannes> imbezol: obviously 0% available
[17:01] <nannes> But I'm removing a file!!
[17:01] <imbezol> nannes: that is odd. did you try with sudo?
[17:01] <bekks> nannes: Which filesystem?
[17:02] <nannes> imbezol: of course yes
[17:02] <nannes> bekks: It's a Kubuntu installation on a usb drive... The "Startup disk creator" did everything
[17:02] <nannes> even the formatting
[17:02] <imbezol> nannes: you could try running strace on it to see what it's trying to write
[17:02] <bekks> nannes: Which filesystem type?
[17:02] <nannes> so... I *think* it's vfat but not sure
[17:03] <imbezol> nannes: df -T will tell you
[17:03] <hellslinger> so apache2-mpm-prefork says it is a different flavor of apache, a non-threaded model. Another reason I became suspicious was that as soon as this particular apache executable was killed, the performance of smbd went back to normal (it had previously been very slow on a gigabit LAN)
[17:04] <nannes> overlayfs
[17:04] <imbezol> nannes: ah. that would explain it
[17:04] <nannes> ...
[17:04] <imbezol> nannes: when you make changes to an overlayfs i believe it's writing a changelog somewhere
[17:04] <imbezol> nannes: and it doesn't have room to do that in your case
[17:05] <nannes> :/
[17:05] <nannes> can I disable che changelog function,
[17:05] <nannes> or at least, remove older lines of the log
[17:05] <nannes> ?
[17:05] <imbezol> no. instead of deleting foo, it's writing a "don't show foo cuz it's not there anymore" file
[17:06] <imbezol> overlayfs is just the differences from the actual filesystem it's laying on top of
[17:06] <imbezol> it allows you to replace stuff, delete stuff, etc from a read only filesystem
[17:06] <imbezol> but you're really only making changes to the overlayfs database, not the actual filesystem
[17:06] <nannes> aaaaa
[17:07] <imbezol> so basically you don't have room to write info about any more changes in your overlayfs db
[17:07] <nannes> ufff.. ok, got it
[17:07] <hellslinger> Pici, imbezol, bekks: thanks for the help, I suppose there is a way to setup networking without network manager to avoid the possible pegging and performance hit for other processes' network access?
[17:08] <imbezol> hellslinger: is it a server?
[17:08] <hellslinger> yes
[17:08] <imbezol> hellslinger: if it is, i definitely wouldn't use networkmanager
[17:08] <imbezol> hellslinger: networkmanager is more for desktop environment
[17:10] <jonathon> I'm trying to start the JACK Server, But I keep getting this error, Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/Bk9zX2TW
[17:11] <hellslinger> imbezol: well I'm convinced, I'll find out how to keep DHCP running while removing network manager
[17:11] <hellslinger> imbezol: thanks
[17:12] <imbezol> hellslinger: you should figure out how to statically assign the IP too
[17:13] <hellslinger> imbezol: that's easy if I'm not mistaken, I want to keep DHCP running since my router is not wonderful
[17:13] <jonathon> I'm trying to start the JACK Server, But I keep getting this error, Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/Bk9zX2TW
[17:15] <Ojje> If i run this command from another server it works just fine. How could i make the same on a local server? wget -O - -q -t 1 http://mydomain.com/cron.php
[17:17] <xskxwraith> can anyone help me
[17:18] <jonathon> Never mind, got it running, Thanks for nothing you bunch of corpses
[17:18] <Sargun_Screen> heh
[17:19] <xskxwraith> ........
[17:19] <beandog> heh
[17:20] <xskxwraith> alright so no support people are here
[17:20] <jakeriver> is there any command in linux to make an accidentally deleted user account to return?
[17:20] <jonathon> They never are, Wraith
[17:20] <jonathon> There's 1600 people here, but they're all either gone or bots, so yea
[17:21] <jonathon> Wha'd ya need help with, man?
[17:21] <xskxwraith> trying to install ubuntu to a flash drive from a mac to put on a laptop
[17:21] <oCean> jonathon: you can keep the nonsense remarks from this channel, thanks
[17:22] <xskxwraith> i dont know shit about mac so i dont have a clue how to do it
[17:22] <jonathon> xskxwraith, Use unetbootin
[17:22] <arbit> Hi, I have a sub hdd which accidently got corrupted. When it seemed like only sdb1 was corrupted due to I deleted the partition via fdisk.. however this seems to have caused me to lose my extX partitions as well since fdisk now tells me that the drive does not have a valid parition table
[17:22] <arbit> Is it possible to recover the partitions somehow?
[17:22] <IdleOne> xskxwraith: please keep the language clean
[17:22] <xskxwraith> thats what i wanted to do but its a windows program
[17:22] <jonathon> There should be a mac version...
[17:22] <xskxwraith> keep the language clean for who
[17:23] <jonathon> You said s***
[17:23] <jonathon> Also yea, for who :P
[17:23] <IdleOne> xskxwraith: for all of us.
[17:23] <xskxwraith> yall aint helpin and last time i was on the support people were sayin fuck this and fuck that
[17:23] <jonathon> They're always here to scold, never to help, I've noticed :P
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> xskxwraith: unetbootin runs on Mac and Linux too....
[17:23] <oCean> jonathon: enough
[17:23] <jonathon> See? And alright, I'll drop it :P
[17:24] <IdleOne> jonathon: Please help us keep this channel free from useless commentary, it distracts those who are here to help.
[17:24] <jonathon> No one is ever here to help though, that's all I'm sayin
[17:24] <IdleOne> jonathon: #ubuntu-offtopic is great for random and not so random discussion
[17:25] <Pici> jonathon: We can't help if we don't know anything about it.  JACK is rather specialized, and there aren't that many experts here.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> xs  your behviour isn't exactly going to make ppl wnat to help you ...nobody here gets paid so don't act as it we we owe you anything \.
[17:25] <Pici> jonathon: You could try asking in #ubuntustudio though.
[17:26] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  I am trying to go from 11 to 12 but can't because I have something pinned... I can't remember what it was that I pinned... is there a way to over-ride this so that the upgrade can proceed?
[17:26] <jonathon> Pici, That's a thought, But I got it sorted anyways, so no worries
[17:26] <BluesKaj> xskxwraith, I'll repeat , your behviour isn't exactly going to make ppl wnat to help you ...nobody here gets paid so don't act as if we we owe you anything
[17:26] <beandog> arkygeek: there's probably some way to see what's pinned (no idea how, though)
[17:26] <yokobr> hey guys, my chrome does not open some pages.. or does not find them.
[17:26] <Pici> BluesKaj: they're gone, ignore it
[17:27] <jonathon> He was already banned, guys, he can't hear you
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: are other browsers ok?
[17:27] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, sure
[17:27] <BluesKaj> yeah , I  missed the exit Pici
[17:27] <IdleOne> Pici: actually they are back, just can't talk.
[17:27] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, firefox's ok
[17:28] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, i've just installed by apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:29] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, i've already tryied configuring my proxy by dconf-tools as well
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: if you make a new user, is it ok?
[17:29] <yokobr> nope, same problem on both users.
[17:29] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, same problem.
[17:30] <nestor__> Hola
[17:30] <nestor__> Hi
[17:31] <Pranavkumasingh> hi every1.. im new to ubuntu... i updated ubuntu to 11.04 from 10.10.. but now it seems it hangs whenever laptop is left idle for 1-2 mins.. pls help.. thanks
[17:33] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, i think it may be some kind of dns problem. I'm on ubuntu 64 bit
[17:33] <patc> hi! can someone tell me why I get a message "warning : these package have not been authentified" (translation) when trying to install macchanger under 12.04?
[17:34] <jthan> patc: Is that from a repository that you added yourself?
[17:34] <patc> jthan: no, it's in the official repos
[17:34] <IdleOne> patc: that sometimes happens when the sources cache updat gets interrupted. try running sudo apt-get upddate and then install the package again.
[17:34] <IdleOne> err sudo apt-get update*
[17:34] <patc> IdleOne: i test it right now, please wait
[17:34] <kav> my whole filesystem gone crash .Can i repair it
[17:35] <kbroulik> how can I assign a user no password or make a login without password possible?
[17:35] <rachelbox> Is this where I complain about my USB 3 card not working in Ubuntu?
[17:35] <jthan> kbroulik: In a graphical environment? You can go into the login screen settings to disable the password login.
[17:35] <jthan> rachelbox: no.
[17:35] <rachelbox> Oh.
[17:36] <baazigar> Hello, can ubuntu hibernate?
[17:36] <kbroulik> jthan: disable password login? this means you can just login into the system without any password? I want two accounts: one that is password protected and one that is not for free use
[17:36] <jthan> baazigar: yes
[17:36] <baazigar> jthan : my ubuntu cannot
[17:36] <Pranavkumasingh>  hi every1.. im new to ubuntu... i updated ubuntu to 11.04 from 10.10.. but now it seems it hangs whenever laptop is left idle for 1-2 mins.. pls help.. thanks :-)
[17:36] <jthan> kbroulik: No. What I was referring to (and I apologize for not being clear) is that you can have it login to a certain account by default without entering a password upon booting
[17:36] <derbie> hi
[17:36] <arkygeek> baazigar: YOU MEAN : MY uBUNTU HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIGURED PROPERLY, AS IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HIBERNATE
[17:37] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, and my /etc/resolv.conf is configured correctelly
[17:37] <arkygeek> OMG sorry for the caps
[17:37] <jthan> lol. That was ANGRY
[17:37] <anthology> derbie: hi
[17:37] <arkygeek> baazigar: sorry for the CAPS
[17:37] <jthan> baazigar: Give me a second real quick to check something out - I think I may have a solution for you
[17:37] <baazigar> arkygeek : How to configure it
[17:37] <baazigar> jthan : how?
[17:37] <jthan> baazigar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[17:38] <jthan> There you go. YOu can have it auto-login to a "guest" account after x number of minutes or seconds. But it gives you that amount of time to login to a different account first.
[17:38] <arkygeek> baazigar: ahhhhh the million $ question :-)  Sometimes it takes a bit of tweaking... google is your friend in this case... try ubuntu <model of your laptop> hibernate
[17:38] <jthan> kbroulik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[17:38] <derbie> I am total noob with ubuntu. I have laoded a live version from USB on a laptop that has windows 7 installed. I am trying to use chntpw to recover the password on the laptop. The problem is i don't understand how to "mount and access the Windows NTFS partition by mounting it and allowing read/write support. "
[17:38] <jthan> Sorry.. Referred that link to the wrong person. Also scroll up for my explanation ^
[17:39] <patc> IdleOne: I'm getting errors when updating... strange...
[17:39] <jthan> patc: try apt-key update
[17:39] <IdleOne> patc: what error?
[17:39] <jthan> derbie: Are you familiar with mounting drives at all under linux?
[17:39] <derbie> no sir
[17:39] <jthan> derbie: Give me one second ;-)
[17:39] <derbie> I am familier with opening terminal :D
[17:40] <jthan> Good start
[17:40] <derbie> I went to home and i see PC COE "device"
[17:40] <derbie> which contains folders of a windows partition
[17:40] <patc> IdleOne: error in checking the checksum... (I translate from french)
[17:40] <jthan> derbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:40] <patc> IdleOne: is there a way to force update or something?
[17:41] <yokobr> Chrome opens facebook, but does not open google.com :/
[17:41] <patc> IdleOne: GPG error
[17:41] <IdleOne> !gpgerr
[17:42] <mjwillz4> Has anyone here had any luck with installing and playing DiabloIII on linux? If so, looking for some help :)
[17:43] <derbie> jthan: ive installed the NTFS configuration tool
[17:43] <derbie> I have a window that allows me to Enable write support for external device and one for internal device
[17:43] <rachelbox> I've heard of people installing D3 with wine
[17:43] <derbie> I go with internal device?
[17:43] <rachelbox> But I've also heard people getting banned because Blizzard considers wine cheating
[17:44] <derbie> I did both
[17:44] <jthan> mjwillz4: Did you try?
[17:45] <mjwillz4> Rachel, I'm working with wine (don't care too much about being banned, made 300 of RMAH so far) but when I go to launch, it gets stuck at "Checking for updates" and claims the agent failed
[17:45] <jthan> rachelbox: That was debunked.  People that used wine also happened to ACTUALLY be cheating.
[17:45] <mjwillz4> I can't find any particular documentation regarding this.
[17:45] <derbie> How do i navigate to the partition ( i need to get to WINDOWS/system32/config )
[17:45] <derbie> ls shows me bin and boot
[17:45] <foxytheoldone> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25953 <--- info there on diablo 3
[17:45] <Pici> mjwillz4: We really can't support applications run under Wine here. Please ask in #winehq
[17:45] <jthan> derbie: Thinking...
[17:46] <mjwillz4> Thanks pici :)
[17:46] <jthan> derbie: You should see all of the folders if it is mounted and accessible in the correct fashion.
[17:46] <jthan> derbie: But just for kicks try ls -aR
[17:46] <derbie> vmlinuz and var
[17:46] <jthan> That isn't right.
[17:47] <derbie> im doing it wrong ok
[17:47] <jthan> :-p
[17:47] <derbie> ill try to mount again
[17:47] <L3top> rachelbox: http://www.business2community.com/tech-gadgets/diablo-3-players-on-linux-suffer-ban-wave-blizzard-claims-cheaters-0211383  "Playing the game on Linux, although not officially supported, will not get you banned—cheating will.” -Blizzard
[17:47] <patc> IdleOne: OK it's working now : I had to do this : sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial sudo apt-get update
[17:47] <derbie> The NTFS configuration tool "status" (hover text) shows "Waiting to install"
[17:47] <jthan> derbie: In the Ubuntu software center?
[17:48] <patc> IdleOne: you were right, a problem must have happened during an update
[17:48] <bacim> selam
[17:48] <derbie> On the left panel
[17:48] <patc> IdleOne: thanks :)
[17:48] <jthan> derbie: okay. close that.
[17:48] <bacim> selaaaaaam
[17:48] <bacim> hi
[17:48] <IdleOne> patc: glad I could help.
[17:48] <gitesh> How do i install Adobe Reader?
[17:48] <anthology> derbie: Download Hirens boot cd. Boot windows xp at the prompt select windows password recovery from menu easy.
[17:48] <derbie> anthology: i have windows 7 installed
[17:49] <patc> thx jthan too! :) Your idea could have done the trick, I didn't see it sorry...
[17:49] <derbie> i am removing the NTFS configuration tool and reinstalling
[17:50] <anthology> derbie: http://www.hirensbootcd.org/tag/download-hirens-bootcd/
[17:50] <jthan> derbie: "apt-get update;apt-get libntfs-dev"
[17:50] <jthan> derbie: I don't see why you can't just mount it and manually navigate to where you need.
[17:50] <jthan> patc: It's all good. Long as it's working now.
[17:50] <anthology> derbie: thats ok
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> gitesh: if you grab the bin file you can install it that way, does evince not work for you?
[17:50] <L3top> !tr | bacim
[17:51] <pessoal_> I need help I installed a few programs but not appearing on, anyone have any ideas?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> anthology: you can break windows password in the ubuntu cd :)
[17:51] <jthan> pessoal_: Little bit more information. "not appearing on?"
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> pessoal_: tried logging off and on?
[17:51] <anthology> derbie: hirens boot cd is live cd
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> derbie: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/resetwindowspassword/
[17:52] <derbie> anthology: let me try the guide i have and ill give hirens a try if it fails
[17:52] <anthology> ok :)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !info chntpw
[17:52] <derbie> jthan: E: Invalid operation libntfs-dev
[17:52] <derbie> after updating all
[17:52] <jthan> derbie: apt-get libntfs-dev < -- all one command
[17:52] <bugs_bugger> hi there. a kind of curious question, but: how can i change the destination path of a makefile for compiling?
[17:52] <IdleOne> jthan: apt-get install ....
[17:52] <Pici> jthan: you forgot the install part
[17:53] <oCean> derbie, jthan that needs the "install" option
[17:53] <jthan> *DOH*
[17:53] <thozethingz> I'm setting up a raid1 within ubuntu 12.04 with mdadm .... I'm trying to follow howto's with older versions of ubuntu and they aren't working ... does anybody know where a current howto is for ubuntu 12.04?
[17:53] <jthan> It's friday, come on.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> anthology: no need for an extra CD< just like you don't need another CD for gparted but people love to pull downt the extra ISO and make another CD...
[17:53] <derbie> oCean: ???
[17:53] <oCean> derbie: sudo apt-get install packagename
[17:53] <pessoal_> Type I installed more smstools not appearing on
[17:53] <jthan> derbie: Yeah - they're right.
[17:54] <derbie> thank you oCean; last line in terminal "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
[17:54] <derbie> so now i should install the ntfs configuration tool? :-S
[17:54] <anthology> ActionParsnip:  thought he wanted to reset password nothing todo with partioning?
[17:55] <vokevybez> my .aria2c home folder does not have the aria2c.conf file it only has the dht.dat file only how do i fix this?
[17:55] <jthan> derbie: That command should install it
[17:55] <derbie> oh
[17:55] <jthan> derbie: apt-get install libntfs-dev < -- all one command
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> anthology: the chntpw will allow you to reset NT passwords, nothing with partitioning :)
[17:55] <jthan> (and that one is right!)
[17:55] <L3top> jthan: no sudo? :P
[17:56]  * jthan leaves for the day 
[17:56] <foxytheoldone> lol
[17:56] <derbie> you forgot sudo
[17:56] <derbie> libntfs-dev is already the newest version.
[17:56] <derbie> How do i launch it
[17:56] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, you left me so alone :(
[17:57] <anthology> ActionParsnip:  explain please what chntpw is please
[17:57] <arkygeek> no takers for the pinning override issue whilst upgrading?
[17:57] <jthan> derbie: There is no "launching" it. Ha. We are going to make a directory and mount it.
[17:57] <derbie> Uh okay..
[17:58] <pessoal_>  I do not know how to solve this problem the programs that do not crack appearing on
[17:58] <pessoal_> anyone have any idea
[17:58] <jthan> derbie: So I want you to type the command "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" which is just going to make a folder named "windows" in the "/mnt" directory.
[18:00] <derbie> done\
[18:00] <jthan> derbie: even better if your windows drive appears under the "places" Menu - you can just click it
[18:00] <derbie> Yes it appears in Home thingy
[18:01] <jthan> Okay - good.
[18:01] <jthan> derbie: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/resetwindowspassword/
[18:01] <derbie> jthan: i was following this
[18:01] <derbie> http://webnesbay.com/hack-windows-admin-password-using-ubuntu-linux/
[18:01] <derbie> i'm at step 3 o.0
[18:02] <derbie> That's my frustration.  How do i navigate into the windows partition in terminal
[18:02] <derbie> as ls only listed bin and root folders
[18:02] <jthan> derbie: Ah. Yes. check the link I gave you. It's much more detailed.
[18:02] <derbie> Oki doki
[18:02] <anthology> using chntpw ? you must use live cd to access the windows file system?
[18:02] <jthan> derbie: let me know if it still gives you an issue, though I do have to head out in about 10 minutes :-/
[18:03] <derbie> anthology: what do you mean use live cd to access the windows file system
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> anthology  if all goes well, the windows (ntfs) partitions appear in nautilus
[18:04] <anthology> derbie:  you are trying to reset password on windows yes?
[18:05] <derbie> Yes
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> derbie  if all goes well, the windows (ntfs) partitions appear in nautilus
[18:05] <derbie> @ antho
[18:05] <derbie> Nautilus?!
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> anthology: its an app you can run in windows to reset passwords in Windows
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> derbie  nautilus is the filemanager, like win explorer
[18:05] <derbie> Oh okay
[18:05] <derbie> Yes it appears
[18:06] <savid> Does anyone know how to get chrome to use system-wide fonts?
[18:06] <derbie> ACtually it appeared from the start before installing and doing anything
[18:06] <derbie> I have did cd media. Now ls shows me this
[18:06] <derbie> apt  cdrom  PC COE
[18:06] <savid> I have wingdings installed (solely for the purpose of converting the stupid J's in peoples emails), but chrome doesn't seem to load it
[18:06] <derbie> how do i do "cd PC COE" because it has a space between PC and COE
[18:06] <jthan> derbie: Just start typing.. "ls PC" and hit tab. It will finish it off for you ;-)
[18:06] <Pataloca> hello
[18:07] <jthan> derbie: in the process observe how it is entered for you.
[18:07] <derbie> nice thank you :D
[18:07] <derbie> yes
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> jthan  was faster :)
[18:07] <jthan> derbie: I wish you the best of luck. I have to head to class.  If you want to PM me when you're done to let me know you got it done that's fine.
[18:08] <tanuki> Does 12.04 have any way to support HiDPI/retina displays?
[18:08] <derbie> Thank you jthan for all the help Really appreciate it!
[18:08] <derbie> Good luck at class
[18:09] <anthology> ActionParsnip: thought this was a ubuntu channell
[18:10] <savid> Does anyone know how to make system-wide fonts available to Chrome? Chrome doesn't seem to load them.
[18:10] <kyle__> savid: Don't repeat yourself so often, if someone knows, they'll say.
[18:10] <Nosophorus> hi, what would happen if i keep Ubuntu 10.04 LTS even after its support has already expired?
[18:11] <trijntje> Nosophorus: mostly no security updates
[18:11] <L3top> tanuki: vlc 2.02 claims support of HiDPI
[18:11] <kyle__> Nosophorus: Not much really.  As long as you update your sources.list, it will keep working, just not get updates.
[18:11] <savid> kyle__, oops, sorry.  I think I cleared my buffer accidentally and didn't see my previous post so I thought I didn't enter it.
[18:11] <kyle__> Nosophorus: YOu'll still want to change the sources.list incase you need to install packages.
[18:11] <kyle__> savid: NP.
[18:11] <Nosophorus> trijntje: would that be dangerous to keep ubuntu without those updates?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> anthology: its in the repos, so is supported :)
[18:12] <tanuki> L3top: I'm looking specifically for a way to scale the GUI up to a legible size.
[18:12] <anthology> derbie: ActionParsnip : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/resetwindowspassword/
[18:12] <Nosophorus> kyle__: but, what about compatibility issues between versions?
[18:13] <trijntje> Nosophorus: hard to say, but running out of date software is never good. Attacks can be automated to look for out of date software
[18:13] <kyle__> Nosophorus: What about them?  If you keep on using 10.04 or whichever, it will just keep on working.  As long as you know what you're doing, it's fine.
[18:13] <derbie> anthology: i think ive sucessfuly cleared the passwords
[18:13] <Nosophorus> trijntje: huh, i got it
[18:13] <derbie> anthology: the thing is the usernames had weird names such as
[18:13] <derbie> hpadmin and hpguest
[18:13] <derbie> HP probably because its a hp laptop
[18:14] <derbie> But when login on windows, the username is completely different
[18:14] <derbie> I'm going to reboot to see if it worked after all... Hope it did
[18:14] <devslash> If I modify my htaccess for my site do I need to restart Apaches service?
[18:15] <Nosophorus> kyle__: for example, ubuntu 10.04 doesn't use Unity, while the newer versions uses it. could that be a source of problems?
[18:15] <devslash> Anyone know?
[18:15] <foxytheoldone> savid did u get my msg on font settings in chrome
[18:16] <kyle__> Nosophorus: What on earth are you talking about?  10.04 doesn't have unity, doesn't use unity, no way to put unity on it, so there are no issues with it.
[18:16] <kyle__> Nosophorus: If you use 10.x you'll have older packages, but it will work.  END OF STORY.
[18:16] <savid> foxytheoldone,  ah, thanks.  sorry, missed your DM.
[18:16] <savid> (I see it now)
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Nosophorus  start from the beginning, what do you want to achieve, what have you done and tried before you came here
[18:16] <Nosophorus> kyle__: but, wouldn't the update of the source.list list Unity as an availabe software on the repos?
[18:16] <foxytheoldone> check it out solution is in there i'm sure
[18:17] <foxytheoldone> check it out solution is in there i'm sure @ savid sorry
[18:17] <devslash> If I modify my htaccess for my site do I need to restart Apaches service?
[18:17] <gitesh> ActionParsnip: I have grabbed the bin file of Adobe Reader. Can you tell me please, what commands let install it?
[18:17] <anthology> when you run the app you have to click refresh!
[18:17] <kyle__> Nosophorus: The locations of packages for 10.04 have changed, that's why you have to update sources.list.  After you do that, it will be pointing to the same old packages.  No changes, no compatability issues, same old packages, new address.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> gitesh: mark it as executable and run it in terminal with sudo
[18:18] <Nosophorus> kyle__: oh, thank you! now i understand.
[18:18] <savid> foxbuntu, I don't see anything relevant under chrome://settings/advanced
[18:18] <kyle__> Nosophorus: No problem.  Sorry for being short.  Busy fighting with something else ATM.
[18:18] <anthology> derbie: gLAD YOU FIXED IT :0
[18:18] <savid> sorry, meant foxytheoldone
[18:18] <guntbert> devslash: ask in #httpd
[18:19] <foxytheoldone> savid see prv msg window m8
[18:19] <mdelcx> devslash: the answer is no
[18:22] <revol0xf> devslash: htaccess file is read on every request. So I dont think you need to restart apache service.
[18:23] <pbjarting> Hi,Why does not Spotify install completely if using Play On Linux or directly from Wine ? What is the trick ?
[18:24] <kyle__> pbjarting: I'll go out on a limb and say, because it's wine, and wine does strange things, and check on the winehq page, and in #wine.
[18:24] <xangua> pbjarting: or you could use the native app that spotipy provides
[18:24] <pbjarting> native app from Spotify. Where ?
[18:25] <Lorra> pbjarting, I looked sometime ago for a Linux version of Spotify, but it doesn't exist
[18:26] <xangua> pbjarting: Lorra from the spotify website http://www.spotify.com/es/download/previews/
[18:26] <pbjarting> it will download and run but will not be saved
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> pbjarting  http://www.spotify.com/us/get-spotify/overview/   #further support no longer in this channel
[18:27] <Lorra> pbjarting, take note of xangua's intervention then
[18:28] <pbjarting> Thansk all not much to do abt it
[18:28] <kosher> huh?
[18:28] <kosher> hey
[18:29] <xangua> pbjarting: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/spotify
[18:30] <kosher> xf86-input-mutouch-1.3.0 does not build with xorg-server 1.7.7
[18:30] <kosher> anyone know how to fix that?
[18:30] <bulletrulz> linuz is not illigal right?
[18:30] <mdelcx> it is
[18:31] <bulletrulz> mdelcx NO ITS NOT!
[18:31] <kosher> hello?
[18:31] <guntbert> !ot | bulletrulz
[18:31] <mdelcx> bulletrulz: seriously, why would you think that?
[18:31] <bulletrulz> mdelcx becaouse some one sayd that lol and spelled it like lunix lol
[18:32] <mdelcx> bulletrulz: offtopic
[18:32] <bulletrulz> ik lol
[18:36] <rachelfish> hi #ubuntu
[18:37] <rachelfish> How do I make terminal not switch between tabs when I press alt + number?
[18:37] <Duality> when i ssh to my server and start a python script + & when i try to logout of the session the script is killed... ?
[18:38] <Duality> how can i prevent it from being killed
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> Duality  use byubo/screen
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Duality  login over ssh, run byobu/screen, then run the command -- you can now safely break the ssh connection, it's what i do with irssi
[18:39] <Duality> irssi i thought that was a irc client ?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Duality  yes, but the principle is the same
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Duality  focus on byobu/screen, not on irssi, in what i explained
[18:41] <Pici> Duality: MonkeyDust meant that he uses screen with irssi
[18:41] <genii-around> Duality: screen is like a console you can run command-line things in like irssi or whatever other ones, then you can detach from that and close the screen but it keeps running
[18:41] <genii-around> ( and reattach to it later )
[18:41] <decci> Anyone who have worked with Ulteo Virtual Desktop setup on Ubuntu 10.04
[18:42] <wrapids> I'm trying to get a log of login/shutdown and or start/shutdown times for my machine, where could I find those?
[18:42] <Ojje> When i upload files to ftp they got permissions 600. Using vsftpd. Any ideas? :)
[18:42] <wo33lock> ok
[18:42] <panz> hello , how to run NVIDIA X Server Settings, im clicking on icon (i've shortcut on left dock) and nothing.
[18:42] <Mandy849> Does anybody know how to use ns3 in here?
[18:44] <V3NG3NC345> morning
[18:44] <Bottty> Hello everyone
[18:44] <V3NG3NC345> can someone direct me to a program to make my own distro that is NOT remastersys?
[18:46] <Vladimi7> hello
[18:46] <V3NG3NC345> hi
[18:47] <Vladimi7> alguien sabe
[18:48] <Vladimi7> como configuro IRC Hispano?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> !es
[18:48] <kaya> V3NG3NC345,  hi
[18:48] <wrapids> Where can I find a log of logins/logouts?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> wrapids  last
[18:49] <kaya> wrapids, home folder
[18:49] <bdot> can anyone turn en translation ON?
[18:49] <kaya> wrapids, at the file systems files
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> wrapids  the command 'last' (without quotes)
[18:49] <Pici> wrapids: via `last` and also in /var/log/auth.log
[18:49] <kaya> wrapids, sorry the second one
[18:50] <wrapids> It's only showing back to monday, would auth hold a longer running track of these?
[18:50] <kyle__> wo33lock: /var/log/authlog
[18:50] <kyle__> wrapids: rather.  /var/log/auth.log
[18:50] <Pici> wrapids: yes, they'll also be archived versions of those.
[18:50] <wrapids> Cool stuff... Lost my timesheet somewhere lol
[18:50] <kyle__> wrapids: Try the .1 .2.gz .3.gz version, etc.
[18:52] <Guest61111> hi
[18:54] <glitsj16> V3NG3NC345: https://code.google.com/p/ubuntu-builder/ might be worth a look if you haven't already .. no support for alternate and server editions (yet) though
[18:58] <kattechnician> hello
[19:01] <biopyte> hi, is there a package providing many different sound samples that can be used for alarms, system messages etc ...?
[19:02] <L3top> !info ubuntu-sounds | biopyte
[19:03] <V3NG3NC345> ----->  can someone direct me to a program to make my own distro that is NOT remastersys?
[19:03] <kattechnician> biopyte, if get them let me know also am interested with em
[19:04] <g0bl1n> hi any hint for a well integrated (ubuntu unity 12.04) notes app ? I used Tomboy years ago, and liked it. Is it still current ?
[19:04] <biopyte> ok, thanks
[19:04] <Ceannfaolaidh> You can use SuseStudio to build a fairly customizable distro
[19:04] <kyle__> V3NG3NC345: LFS (linux from scratch).  I beleive it comes with a few utilities to do this: vim, man, make and gcc.
[19:05] <platius> V3NG3NC345> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[19:05] <V3NG3NC345> nice
[19:05] <tanuki> I have open-vm-tools and open-vm-toolbox installed... how do I start the VMware Tools GUI?
[19:05] <kyle__> V3NG3NC345: Look, if you really want to do this, first understand that you can pass any binary to the kernel, and that's what the kernel will run.  Startoff making a system that only has a kernel, and a statically linked bash (probalby in a VM).  Build up from there.
[19:06] <IdleOne> V3NG3NC345: this isn't really an Ubuntu issue though so you should probably try ##linux
[19:06] <V3NG3NC345> lol,.. well I'm not really using ubuntu :P
[19:06] <V3NG3NC345> lol
[19:06] <V3NG3NC345> but you all are so awesome I lookforward to your advice
[19:07] <adren> V3NG3NC345: :) what was the issue?
[19:07] <kattechnician> biopyte, have you get them
[19:07] <Ceannfaolaidh> g0bl1n: Tomboy still works, but Ubuntu One sync is broken in 12.04. if that's not a problem, then it works great
[19:07] <V3NG3NC345> I finally completed how I wanted my os system to feel, function, operate
[19:07] <V3NG3NC345> the look too
[19:08] <V3NG3NC345> I wanted to make THAT my own distro
[19:08] <IdleOne> V3NG3NC345: We appreciate the compliment but this channel is for Ubuntu support.
[19:08] <mdelcx> yeah... so whats wrong with what you mentioned?
[19:08] <mdelcx> the program you said you didnt want to use
[19:08] <mdelcx> it does that
[19:08] <biopyte> kattechnician, what do you  mean? yes, i just installed ubuntustudio-sounds .. but thats only a minimal collection, not really what i'm looking for ...need something more comprehensive
[19:09] <adren> V3NG3NC345: desktop or a window manager?
[19:09] <m_> message to neberu
[19:10] <V3NG3NC345> you lost me
[19:10] <g0bl1n> Ceannfaolaidh, and does it (Tomboy) appear in the messages icon ?
[19:11] <g0bl1n> top-right menu
[19:11] <kattechnician> L3top, how did get them in ubuntu
[19:12] <adren> V3NG3NC345: you should you wanted to make your os to feel, it's nice to start off with what you are using, like KDE, gnome, xfce4 or *window managers.
[19:12] <adren> V3NG3NC345: said*
[19:12] <mdelcx> V3NG3NC345: remastersys can make a full system backup including personal data to a live CD or DVD that you can use anywhere and install.
[19:12] <V3NG3NC345> adren using a custom version of KDE
[19:12] <kattechnician> biopyte, can have the link for the ubuntu studio sounds
[19:13] <V3NG3NC345> also, I tried using remastersys last night, and it did sorta do what I wanted, but it didn't save personal desktop settings
[19:13] <isitme> adren: mdelcx V3NG3NC345 please move that discussion to an appropriate channel - this one is for ubuntu support
[19:13] <IdleOne> Ok guys, this remastersys discussion is off topic. Please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic or to PM.
[19:13] <P-Chan> J
[19:13] <P-Chan> how save my screen resolution?
[19:14] <Ceannfaolaidh> g0bl1n: It won't act as an applet by default, but the icon does appear when the app is started. just add it to the list of startup programs
[19:14] <abaratican> when you type in the name of a binary that's in a package you don't have installed, what is it that's providing the suggestions to install the package?
[19:14] <P-Chan> Everytime I adjust in xrandr when I login
[19:14] <m_> message to neberu
[19:14] <isitme> m_: stop that please
[19:15] <m_> MESSAGE TO NEBURU
[19:15] <IdleOne> m_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:15] <thiebaude> m_: they are not here anyway now
[19:15] <biopyte> kattechnician, there is no link ... its a package in synaptic ... just go and unstall it from your ubuntu box
[19:15] <kattechnician> name of the package biopyte
[19:15] <glitsj16> abaratican: command-not-found
[19:15] <V3NG3NC345> blows isitme a kiss
[19:16] <commodoreC16> I have quick question on grub boot loader , that's it . Let me know when I can ask. I see U busy here.
[19:16] <kattechnician> biopyte, name of the package
[19:16] <IdleOne> V3NG3NC345: Please stop with the off topic.
[19:16] <m_> MESSAGE TO NEBURU
[19:16] <mdelcx> commodoreC16: ask away
[19:16] <tweety26> hiiii
[19:16] <mdelcx> !ask
[19:16] <IdleOne> commodoreC16: you can ask anytime you want or you can also try #grub
[19:16] <commodoreC16> tx
[19:16] <commodoreC16> Hi! Is there a graphical grub menu selection program , for multiboot system ,please? I am running Ubuntu 11.04 (natty) 32bit. Thank you.
[19:16] <P-Chan> I want I wuick tutorial how to boot in verbose. I want remove the bootsplash
[19:16] <P-Chan> it's consume very ram
[19:16] <DJones> m_: If you have an ubuntu support question, please ask it in the channel, Do Not keep repeating the same thing
[19:16] <mdelcx> commodoreC16: grub IS a graphical menu selection program...
[19:16] <IdleOne> !text
[19:17] <biopyte> kattechnician ... ubuntustudio-sounds
[19:17] <commodoreC16> I mean , you know when started up . It shows the ugly white on black selection....
[19:17] <mdelcx> you want a fancier grub?
[19:17] <kattechnician> biopyte, let me try
[19:18] <P-Chan> IdleOne: But and how remove the message splash of quiet splash?
[19:18] <IdleOne> P-Chan: that link ubottu gave you tells you how
[19:21] <kattechnician> biohttp://imagebin.org/219755 look at this is this u mean
[19:22] <ldivisa> Hello everyone!
[19:22] <commodoreC16> If grub is a graphical selection program , than all I can say it is UGLY ! I keep on searching , did not help me much logging on here , but it was a try. So thanks for nothing :D no seriously , thank you mdelcx ! . Am out of here .
[19:23] <genii-around> Hm
[19:24] <neberu> m_ i cannot see u
[19:24] <kattechnician> ldivisa, yess
[19:25] <neberu> m_ wel
[19:26] <DJones> neberu: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:26] <techboy291> woops
[19:26] <techboy291> wrong channel
[19:28] <trijntje> where can I find all icons available on my system (for use in starters in the launcher)
[19:30] <kboodu> trijntje: many are in /usr/share/icons/..... (but some applications store them in other places)
[19:31] <Mandy849> what is /home/.ecryptfs, why is it so big (23GB out of 30 GB of system space available) and how to reduce its size, if possible ?
[19:32] <trijntje> Mandy849: that is the encrypted file that holds your entire personal folder
[19:32] <trijntje> kboodu: thanks!
[19:32] <Mandy849> trijntje: why is it not in my personal folder then, shouldn't it be 'personal' ?
[19:33] <trijntje> Mandy849: your personal folder is actually an illusion, created to make it easy for you to work with encrypted files. Every time you change a file the change is actually stored in the encrypted file
[19:33] <trijntje> all on the background ofcourse, so you never notice
[19:34] <trijntje> the way to make the file smaller is to remove files from your personal folder, or compress them
[19:35] <Mandy849> but my personal folder is not nearly that big, unless I'm very mistaken
[19:35] <Tyr2007> new to ubuntu
[19:35] <Tyr2007> how do i get in as root to command line install??
[19:35] <trijntje> Mandy849: maybe you trash? You can use the program baobab to see where you use most space
[19:35] <trijntje> !root | Tyr2007
[19:35] <mdelcx> yeah its probably in ~/.trashes
[19:36] <Tyr2007> ty
[19:36] <mdelcx> there is no root.... unless you need there to be :)
[19:36] <Mandy849> trijntje: thanks for thinking about that, I had forgotten to check it. I checked now though, and it's not that.
[19:36] <Mandy849> trijntje: the trash is empty
[19:36] <mdelcx> no root password that is
[19:36] <Tyr2007> i will look...i have no clue what i am doing...
[19:36] <mdelcx> then you might not want to use sudo or login as root
[19:36] <mdelcx> :)
[19:37] <kboodu> Tyr2007: Try a sudo apt-get install _application_name_
[19:37] <Tyr2007> Lol thanx
[19:37] <Tyr2007> you know anything about android dev?? trying to find a channel
[19:37] <phoebus_> my hcl laptop gets heated due to ubuntu 12.04..wat sd i do??
[19:37] <beandog> Is there a way to tell what version a package is before installing it?
[19:38] <genii-around> beandog: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:38] <beandog> genii-around: perfect, thank you
[19:38] <genii-around> beandog: You're welcome
[19:39] <genii-around> Tyr2007: #android-dev I believe
[19:39] <Tyr2007> ty...
[19:39] <Tyr2007> i will look
[19:40] <trijntje> Mandy849: try scanning your whole home folder, it must be hiding somewhere ;)
[19:40] <Tyr2007> thanks worked great
[19:41] <Mandy849> trijntje: it's weird it must be really small things that add up, I've just checked with baobab, nothing exceeds 2GB
[19:41] <Mandy849> trijntje: well first of all the thing I don't understand is why is .ecryptfs 25 GB and /home/user 25 GB. Shouldn't it be just 25 GB total, rather than twice as large ?
[19:41] <pcarp_io_> hello
[19:41] <habib> Hi
[19:42] <epinky> is there any video streaming server for Ubuntu?
[19:42] <trijntje> Mandy849: it really is just 25G, /home/user is a fake folder. Every time you need something from there it is decrypted in the background
[19:43] <Benxyzzy> In /var/log/auth.log I'm getting lots of 'pam_get_item returned a password'. I have ssh open to the outside world and samba running (but not open to the world). Do I need to be concerned about htis?
[19:43] <Mandy849> trijntje: are you sure it's not copied ? because baobab and 'du' say /home totals to 50 GB, with 25 GB each, one for /home/user, the other for /home/.ecryptfs
[19:43] <Asad2005> i am getting this error sometimes " Sorry, ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error", what log should contain the error ?
[19:44] <trijntje> Mandy849: yeah, but du also looks at the fake folder. If you run 'df -h' (free space on disk), you will see you only use 25 for home
[19:44] <isitme> Asad2005: look into /var/log/syslog
[19:44] <P-Chan> Hey guys! How I force ubuntu starts in my desired resolution? I add in xrandr everytime I start session
[19:44] <kimphill> elaRe!
[19:46] <Tyr2007> another quick one...how does one register their nick with the server
[19:46] <DJones> !register | Tyr2007
[19:47] <Mandy849> is it possible to unmount / ?
[19:48] <morel> Mandy849: try it =)
[19:48] <Mandy849> without a live cd
[19:48] <Cottus> it is possible to remount readonly
[19:48] <morel> Mandy849: sudo umount / # :D
[19:48] <P-Chan> Mandy849: LOL
[19:48] <Cottus> also do a rm -rf /
[19:48] <L3top> !warning
[19:48] <L3top> !ops | Cottus
[19:48] <morel> heheh
[19:49] <P-Chan> Run to hills!
[19:49] <Cottus> ok
[19:50] <pcarp_io_> @controlusa
[19:50] <Mandy849> so the answer would be?
[19:50] <Mandy849> can I resize the / partition without a live cd ?
[19:50] <IdleOne> Mandy849: no
[19:50] <Laika> Well, I've been a user of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS since April now, and it's been a very pleasant experience. I'm a big fan of electronic music, and I tend to have my tracks playing in the background while I do things on my laptop, either in YouTube or in Clementine, my default music player. All has worked very well until now. A couple of days ago my entire PC started to lag really badly. Almost everything was unusable. I opened up
[19:50] <Laika>  System Monitor via the terminal to find a process called "pulseaudio" using nearly 1GB of RAM and over 80% of my CPU. I needed to get some important work done and so I killed the process without thinking. Once again today, pulseaudio decided to lag the hell out of my PC, and so I killed it again. Nothing seemed to happen immediately, but once I opened up YouTube all the audio on videos stuttered a lot, while the videos pla
[19:50] <Laika> yed smoothly. I restarted Firefox to find that the audio was now not working at all, with both headphones and speakers, and the volume up quite a bit (it's not muted, I've checked that!). A little bit of research later and I've discovered that pulseaudio plays an important part in Ubuntu's audio. Even after restarting my PC the audio still ceases to work in any applications or with any output. The pulseaudio process refuses
[19:50] <genii-around> P-Chan: Maybe just put the xrandr commands into your /home/username/.xsession , with a &    after each command
[19:50] <FloodBot1> Laika: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <Cottus> read in man mount about -o remount,ro
[19:50] <Laika>  to start up again. So, can you help me out here? What can I do to fix my problem, and why was pulseaudio doing this in the first place?
[19:50] <DJones> Cottus: Even jokingly, its not a good idea to suggest that, less experienced users may try it and damage their installation
[19:50] <Cottus> i know
[19:51] <P-Chan> genii-around: extension please? xml?
[19:51] <genii-around> P-Chan: No extension. The file is plain text.
[19:52] <Cottus> !ops | Cottus
[19:52] <genii-around> P-Chan: eg: a plain text file in your home directory, the file is named .xsession
[19:52] <genii-around> Cottus: Please don't keep calling us in here
[19:52] <daverw> Hi. I've just borked my ubuntu server and need help. I set it up with encrypted lvm, and added a new disk. I had no problems adding it, but on rebooting I am not prompted for the encryption password for the new disk and it (quite reasonably) refuses to activate a partial volume group. I then drop to a busybox shell. How do it get it to ask for the password for the second disk?
[19:53] <recon_lap> Laika: so your audio does not work at all now?
[19:53]  * Cottus thinks "damn"
[19:53] <morel> recon_lap: Laika is gone.
[19:53] <Cottus> so this does call you
[19:53] <pcarp_io_> thank God is friday
[19:54] <Cottus> Mandy849, did you try anything?
[19:55] <Asad2005> can someone help me change fontsize in gwibber its too small for me
[19:55] <Mandy849> Cottus: no thankfully I knew about that one. But I don't know about all of them, so please don't do that again.
[19:56] <Cottus> did you try remount read-only ?
[19:56] <Mandy849> no I don't know what it means
[19:57] <Cottus> ok, you can remount the / ,
[19:57] <Mandy849> will I still be able to have a graphical interface if I do that ?
[19:57] <jane_wayne78> my ISP's router acts as a DHCP server, and i have a ubuntu ICS dhcp server now, how do i configure an ubuntu network interface to say go to the ubuntu ICS dhcp server (and not the router)?
[19:57] <recon_lap> Mandy849:  the whole thing sounds dodgy, do you really need to do this?
[19:57] <Cottus> some graphical interfaces yes
[19:57] <Mandy849> recon_lap: I was just wondering if it was possible, because I'm out of space and I don't have a live CD at end
[19:57] <P-Chan> genii-around: this way http://pastebin.com/wJuc0VNn ?
[19:57] <Cottus> like openbox
[19:58] <Mandy849> recon_lap: but I do have space on another partition
[19:58] <IdleOne> Mandy849: you can use a USB for a live environment
[19:58] <IdleOne> !usb
[19:58] <Mandy849> IdleOne: neither do I have a usb stick
[19:58] <Mandy849> IdleOne: I'm in a hotel
[19:59] <gerzel> QuB1t: How do you get the network status icon in the notification area of the panel to appear?
[19:59] <IdleOne> Mandy849: Then you should probably wait till you can get either a CD or USB
[19:59] <Mandy849> but if it's not possible it's okay I'll wait until I am hable to do it
[19:59] <Cottus> Mandy849, you can try to see what takes up much space
[19:59] <IdleOne> Mandy849: it would be safer.
[19:59] <recon_lap> Mandy849:  my guess is if you unmount the system driver the OS will go down in flames
[19:59] <recon_lap> system drive*
[19:59] <gerzel> I need to switch to using a vpn and it isn't there.  Not sure of an alternate way to turn the vpn on.
[20:00] <Mandy849> ok thanks for your help guys, I'll just wait.
[20:00] <Cottus> !du
[20:00] <Tyr2007> how well would ubuntu run on a netbook??? anyone have any experience on this??
[20:00] <Mandy849> I know about du and baobab
[20:01] <Benxyzzy> OK, let me put it another way: What would it take for someone to get into my server via SSH, assuming I have samba running?
[20:01] <genii-around> P-Chan: I would probably put at the end of each line with a command &&         and make sure no dead lines in between the commands
[20:01] <L3top> !info gdmap | Mandy849 this is a neat tool that visualizes space. Makes it very easy to find large files and determine their usefulness to you.
[20:01] <Cottus> ok
[20:01] <gerzel> tyr: works fine on my netbook
[20:01] <genii-around> P-Chan: But yes, that is the idea
[20:01] <Mandy849> L3top: thanks I'll have a look at it
[20:01] <daverw> Tyr2007, I used to run ubuntu 11.04 on a samsung n230 and it was great for my needs
[20:01] <Tyr2007> does it run smothly?? and how hard would it be to make a boot usb...?
[20:01] <gerzel> Tyr2007: Might go with one of the netbook-customized versions of ubuntu but I have it on mine with no problem  eeepc 701
[20:02] <Tyr2007> I want to try my hand at android dev...
[20:02] <Tyr2007> thinking of using my netbook
[20:02] <gerzel> Tyr2007: Didn't have any problems and I have an OLD netbook.  the 701 is first generation netbook pre-atom.
[20:02] <Cottus> !rm <did anyone do
[20:02] <Mandy849> on a unrelated matter, I have a programming problem with ns3. I know it's not ubuntu related but it's hard to come by ns3 developers so if by any chance one of you has some c++ knowledge and is willing to help can (s)he send me a private message ? Thanks. Sorry for the off topic.
[20:02] <Cottus> !rm
[20:03] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > Cottus
[20:03] <genii-around> Cottus: Luckily no one ran that command this time. But we have had it happen before from new users who just like to try out commands they see people write in the open channel.
[20:03] <Cottus> did anyone do !rm ?
[20:03] <jane_wayne78> is there a way to specify which DHCP server to use?
[20:04] <Cottus> i mean it's ok to ban me but also show them
[20:04] <LjL> Cottus: !danger has been called, that's the appropriate factoid to call
[20:05] <Cottus> ok i guess it's up to me
[20:05] <IdleOne> What is up to you?
[20:05] <Cottus> to send rm -rf / and then !rm
[20:05] <mneptok> Cottus: please drop it. further discussion now makes a ban more likely.
[20:05] <Cottus> no , offtopic
[20:05] <mneptok> Cottus: and you just typed it *again*
[20:06] <P-Chan> IdleOne: finish him
[20:06] <IdleOne> Cottus: i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish but I can tell you that if you don't stop it will end with you being banned.
[20:06] <LjL> Cottus: utter that command again and you will have a long ban. now back to support
[20:06] <IdleOne> Cottus: This is not a debate. You will NOT post that command in any Ubuntu channels again. Thank you.
[20:07] <Cottus> hmm
[20:07] <daverw> I've just borked my ubuntu server and need help. I set it up with encrypted lvm, and added a new disk. I had no problems adding it, but on rebooting I am not prompted for the encryption password for the new disk and it (quite reasonably) refuses to activate a partial volume group. I then drop to a busybox shell. How do it get it to ask for the password for the second disk?
[20:09] <oozbooz> I've installed repo pubkey (ran apt-get update) but still getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" Any idea where to look .. thanks
[20:09] <Cottus> you can add a factoid on the 'command'
[20:09] <P-Chan> I taught my great grandmother to use slackwate B) but i prefer ubuntu
[20:12] <Cottus> P-Chan, did you find out what to do about resolution?
[20:12] <P-Chan> Cottus: yes but I need run the command after logon
[20:12] <P-Chan> sux. I want distro more easies than ubuntu
[20:13] <P-Chan> because the paid solution is more easy
[20:14]  * Cottus reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:14] <dstorrs> hey folks.  I need to specify which username to run the mongodb process as when 'service mongodb start' happens (and at boot).  I think this is handled by the upstart job, but I can't find where exactly to set it.  Can someone point me to a good FM?
[20:15] <rachelfish> fm?
[20:15] <dstorrs> Fine Manual
[20:16] <rachelfish> can't help with a manual, but check /etc/init.d for the mongo service
[20:18] <genii-around> Or perhaps just in /etc/init if it's an upstart job
[20:20] <dstorrs> ok, thanks
[20:20] <davv3_> hey. how do i get access to ubuntu unstable repository? or simillar to sid where i can find the latest libs
[20:21] <rachelfish> i believe its commented out in sources.list
[20:21] <rachelfish> in /etc/apt
[20:21] <LjL> davv3_: i guess the closest thing is "proposed", but it's not quite safe to use
[20:22] <mneptok> davv3_: if you mean the development version, discussion happens in #ubuntu+1
[20:23] <derbie> Hello. What program do you recommend for stress testing the CPU and GPU ?
[20:23] <derbie> seperate program for each task
[20:24] <LjL> derbie: for the CPU, there's the package "cpuburn". its description warns that it might damage CPUs, though
[20:24] <derbie> uhm
[20:24] <derbie> no thanks :D
[20:24] <davv3_> mneptok: no i believe LjL hit it on the head
[20:24] <derbie> prime95 for windows was nice, i've read that it is for ubuntu as well
[20:25] <rachelfish> stress testing is always dangerous derbie
[20:27] <Cottus> P-Chan, i don't think modeline are supported but they were the sollution
[20:28] <P-Chan> Cottus: this works if i paste in terminal
[20:29] <Cottus> yeah , modeline were added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:29] <derbie> rachelfish: because of high temperature?
[20:29] <P-Chan> Cottus: xorg.conf is deade
[20:29] <P-Chan> dead
[20:29] <Cottus> :D
[20:29] <rachelfish> yep
[20:30] <agike> Hi, I have just deleted /boot on natty. Any advice on how to restore it .. ?
[20:31] <BlueWolf> Hi, can someone tell me how I can set my computer to Hibernate like it shuts down with this ( sudo shutdown -h 04:30 )?
[20:32] <Cottus> agike, reinstall grub
[20:32] <tootie> hi, how do I permanently enable sshd on 12.04 desktop install?
[20:32] <isitme> Cottus: won't work
[20:32] <live_> hello. I am using a live disc on a windows comp.  wondering if it is at all possible for ubuntu to see my 1st gen 512mb ipod??  It is charging through usb but the sys doesnt recognize it.
[20:33] <live_> I have gtkpod manager but it doesnt see it
[20:33] <Cottus> then , grub-setup /dev/sda
[20:33] <mu3en> is it possible to force install of grub pc instead of grub efi with ubuntu sever 1204?
[20:33] <gartral> live_: rhythembox should be able too see it
[20:34] <live_> gartral  ill try it thanks
[20:34] <Cottus> no grub-setup does not work
[20:34] <trism> tootie: just installing openssh-server should result in a system that always starts sshd on boot
[20:34] <live_> gartral but how will it see it if the OS live cd doesnt
[20:35] <gartral> live_: because iPods are MTP devices, and MTP can't be mounted as a drive, like a flash drive
[20:36] <tootie> trism, ty. ubuntu is so broekn, how can you distro linux without sshd installed???
[20:36] <live_> gartral rhythumbox doesnt see it either
[20:36] <gartral> live_: hang on a sec
[20:37] <gartral> live_: Edit>Plugins and make sure portable players - iPods is checked
[20:38] <live_> gartral yeah it is..   ??
[20:38] <D-Chymera> hi guys - do you know of any good app or program for gnome which helps me see how my stocks are evolving? I'm looking for some sort of program that will display all my stocks in real time - I could do this with my web browser and multiple tabs, but I'd rather have all the time courses next to one another... any ideas? :-s
[20:41] <agike> Cottus: 'grub-install /dev/sda' seems to have done it. I will have to try a reboot ..
[20:41] <Cottus> not yet
[20:41] <Cottus> need to install kernel again
[20:42] <agike>  Cottus: from where .. ?
[20:42] <gmcinnes> Hi all. How can I find out what caused an Ubuntu server to unexpectedly reboot?
[20:43] <Cottus> i 'm curious at why grub-install succeded, from synaptic..
[20:43] <Cottus> wow
[20:43] <jaha> Just got disconnected via ssh form a 12.04 upgrade, any idea how to get that session back?
[20:44] <Cottus> :D
[20:44] <Cottus> agike, can you send a uname -r ?
[20:45] <studio> is there an option where unity can autohide when iam browsing?
[20:46] <studio> nevermind i found it lol
[20:46] <studio> :D
[20:46] <Cottus> gmcinnes, check /var/log/syslog , find the last 0.0000 entry
[20:46] <derbie> is there utorrent client for ubuntu?
[20:47] <derbie> on utorrent website i can only find utorrent server for linux (??????)
[20:47] <xangua> derbie: yes, that is
[20:47] <derbie> Oh
[20:47] <Cottus> jaha, this is not the answer but next time you can use "screen" as a terminal session, it has restore property ;)
[20:47] <derbie> why is it named server then
[20:47] <Tm_T> jaha: I believe do-release-upgrade do create screen session for itself, so "sudo screen -rd" perhaps
[20:48] <jaha> Tm_T: just figured it out, i wasnt running screen as sudo
[20:48] <Tm_T> righto
[20:48] <gmcinnes> Cottus: I see it. I see when it went down, and I see a bunch of things seeming to stop normally ( i.e. a bunch of tty killed by TERM signal).   Before that there's just some output from postfix. Nothing interesting.
[20:48] <gmcinnes> Cottus: https://gist.github.com/3062649
[20:49] <Daulity> thanks all! i learned how to start a task with screen and run the task in the background! :)
[20:49] <Cottus> :D
[20:49] <nitro282> buui----
[20:50] <agike> Cottus: not from synaptic -- in LXTerminal. On a debian/ubuntu dual-boot, update-grub only recognises the debian kernel at the moment ..
[20:50] <BlueWolf> Hi, can someone tell me how I can set my computer to Hibernate like it shuts down with this ( sudo shutdown -h 04:30 )?
[20:51] <ccherrett> I am installing ubuntu for the first time (coming from gentoo). The CD boots up and my keyboard and mouse are no longer working. I have tried 3 different usb combos of mice and keyboard
[20:51] <Cottus> agike, /boot/ needs to be filled with linux-image System-map and initrd  i think
[20:51] <ccherrett> the keyboard works with the option to install or try ubuntu shows on the screen
[20:51] <Cottus> no , i 'm sure
[20:51] <ccherrett> at which point both mouse and keyboard are gone
[20:52] <ccherrett> any hints?
[20:53] <Cottus> there might be ( alternative.iso ) curses install
[20:53] <agike> ccherrett, Cottus: reinstall iso from WattOS CD ?
[20:53] <BlueWolf> Help?
[20:55] <agike> my /boot has abi-2.6.38-10-generic     initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic  System.map-2.6.38-10-generic
[20:55] <ccherrett> so if you cannot get your keyboard and mouse detected you do not install ubuntu?
[20:55] <agike> config-2.6.38-10-generic  memtest86+.bin                vmcoreinfo-2.6.38-10-generic
[20:56] <agike> grub                      memtest86+_multiboot.bin      vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic
[20:56] <agike> can I reboot ?
[20:56] <Cottus> grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:56] <Cottus> grub-install /dev/sda (might be unnecessary)
[20:56] <agike> Cottus: to me ?
[20:56] <Cottus> yep
[20:57] <agike> thanks
[20:57] <Cottus> np
[20:58] <BlueWolf> Hi, can someone tell me how I can set my computer to Hibernate like it shuts down with this ( sudo shutdown -h 04:30 )?
[20:59] <gpetrakis> Am I going to have any problem with my /home partition if I install a 64-bit OS in place of the previous 32-bit one?
[20:59] <Cottus> BlueWolf, pm-hibernate
[20:59] <Cottus> BlueWolf, also see pm-<tab><tab>
[21:00] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:00] <mneptok> gpetrakis: you should not, no. only if you installed binaries there by hand.
[21:00] <BlueWolf> Cottus: Wo, how do I set it to Hibernate at a certain time?
[21:00] <agike> Cottus: I already have menuentry "Debian Linux" {
[21:00] <agike> set root=(hd0,1)
[21:00] <agike> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3
[21:00] <agike> initrd /initrd.img
[21:00] <agike> }
[21:00] <FloodBot1> agike: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <mneptok> BlueWolf: use cron
[21:01] <Cottus> agike, sorry, i though it was grub2
[21:01] <Cottus> agike, you might have to reinstall though
[21:01] <agike> Cottus: don't know if I want to cange it. grub-mkconfig makes a symlink .. ?
[21:02] <gpetrakis> mneptok: Ok, then. So my Home folder will be visible automatically, yes?
[21:02] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:02] <BlueWolf> mneptok: Dude I am not with you? Whats cron? Is it not a simple code like shutting down is?
[21:02] <mneptok> gpetrakis: if you tell the installer to preserve the existing /home yes
[21:02] <Cottus> agike, nevermind, i was talking about grub2
[21:02] <mneptok> !cron > BlueWolf
[21:02] <gpetrakis> mneptok: Thank you
[21:03] <Cottus> geia
[21:03] <agike> .. it is grub2 .. or 1.99
[21:03] <Cottus> ok,
[21:03] <BlueWolf> mneptok: Thanks, but I am not to good with linux :D
[21:04] <agike> I'm getting "bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied
[21:04] <agike> "
[21:04] <Cottus> i trust grub-mkconfig , it searches for images and initrd in /boot/ and automatically adds an entry for them
[21:04] <ccherrett> so 12.04 does not detect any of my mice or keyboards, so is that the end of the road?
[21:04] <Cottus> maybe you're not root
[21:04] <agike> I used sudo
[21:04] <mneptok> ccherrett: tried the -alternate image?
[21:05] <Cottus> sudo -c 'grub-...'
[21:05] <tresk> Hi, I have a notebook with external soundcard (USB). When my system wakes up from suspend mode volume is switched to 100% ... Any idea?
[21:05] <ccherrett> mneptok: no just put the CD in the drive and booted
[21:05] <Cottus> (it's the > )
[21:05] <ccherrett> mneptok: I did not see any boot options
[21:05] <mneptok> ccherrett: perhaps the text mode installer will do better than the graphical?
[21:05] <tresk> and it switches to the internal notebook soundcard sometomes, too.
[21:05] <ccherrett> mneptok: just a ubuntu splash screen
[21:05] <mneptok> ccherrett: different ISO image
[21:05] <ccherrett> mneptok: how do I invoke it?
[21:05] <ejb1123> can someone activate my acount?
[21:06] <ccherrett> mneptok: ok so abandone the official release?
[21:06] <mneptok> ccherrett: no ... go download the CD ISO image marked -alternate on any of the official Ubuntu download servers
[21:08] <ccherrett> mneptok: thanks downloading
[21:08] <shadowmaxss> Anyone got any CHEAP ideas for Terminal Services - We have a Win2003 Server running Quickbooks and want to use Ubuntu Clients to Access instances of Quickbooks and other Win Software
[21:08] <Cottus> gmcinnes, you can also check the laste lines of /var/log/Xorg.1.log , i think it "1"
[21:08] <ccherrett> mneptok: I have been on gentoo for many years, the graphical install is very strange to me
[21:08] <agike> Cottus: this time I'm getting 5 lines of 'sudo' usage advice ..
[21:08] <mneptok> ccherrett: so ... don't use it ;)
[21:08] <ccherrett> and feels like being locked in a cage when it goes wrong and you cannot see what is going on
[21:08] <Nirol> I appreciate and value the human condition
[21:08] <Nirol> Though this value often is destroyed by humanities actions. A destructive force to the idealistic love affair hardening those hearts that chase freedom, in and all its virtues. Suited men in politics work us to unite to divide by dividing to unite in an everlasting battle struggling to embrace each other for such deserved value. Tapping what sparse little love often spared to sooth as ointment
[21:08] <Nirol> over self inflicted wounds dejectedly an appathetic public laying tired heads on hopes and dreams of those choosing to grapple free from the shackles of their minds, in an untruthful deceptive spoiled world. Unchanging in its beauty and truth. The lives of men playing out on a stage of immense proportion, overshaddowed protests of concieted guile echoing out toward the blackness of silent
[21:08] <Nirol> muffled heartless crowd gazing behind the cover of lights. Cries the protagonist.
[21:08] <FloodBot1> Nirol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <Nirol>  "command thy noble actors and this stout stocky steed to shout profanities dare applause you disaffected lot". The crowd cheers and sings his praises "this world thy troubled home has no need of the ill of these afflicted people cry words of sorrow and discontent not joy or happy retorts. I swear by the power of this hand i shall do greater ill and kick such subjects to the dust".
[21:09] <agike> Nirol: go away !
[21:09] <ejb1123> can someone activate my acount?
[21:09] <ccherrett> mneptok: how do I run the text based install?
[21:09] <mneptok> ejb1123: what account? where? for what?
[21:09] <Cottus> agike, maybe its -e
[21:09] <mneptok> ccherrett: boot the -alternate image
[21:09] <Nirol> agike what up with u
[21:09] <ccherrett> ah ok
[21:09] <ccherrett> mneptok: I am on it thanks
[21:09] <kyle__> ccherrett: When you boot the installer, there are choices at the bottom, f1 f2 f3, etc.  I beleive if you hit f4 you can choose command line install
[21:10] <ccherrett> kyle__: thanks
[21:10] <kyle__> ccherrett: It's one of the other f-keys, if it's not 4.
[21:10] <Nirol> agike is a dike
[21:10] <ejb1123> mneptok:ejbevenour@live.com i want to figgure out how web servers work
[21:10] <kyle__> !troll Nirol
[21:10] <ejb1123> mneptok: ejbevenour@live.com i want to figgure out how web servers work
[21:10] <kyle__> !Nirol troll
[21:11] <kyle__> Dmanit ubottu, do what I mean!  Stupid lack of fuzzy-logic natural language processing.
[21:11] <mneptok> ejb1123: this channel has nothing to do with live.com
[21:11] <shadowmaxss> Anyone got any CHEAP ideas for Terminal Services - We have a Win2003 Server running Quickbooks and want to use Ubuntu Clients to Access instances of Quickbooks and other Win Software
[21:12] <agike> Cottus: it now goes into the 'joe' editor. Is that OK ? I'm getting washed-out text on the screen so can't see the details ..
[21:12] <kyle__> shadowmaxss: There is a an RDP client for linux, ubuntu's package of it works well, so yes, you can connect to Windos's RDP sessions.  If that's what you mean.
[21:13] <Cottus> agike,
[21:13] <shadowmaxss> I'm trying to avoid client licenses in Terminal Services
[21:13] <Cottus> sorry, try sudo -i, then run the command
[21:13] <kyle__> shadowmaxss: CALs determine how-many sessions can connect at once, not the client-software.
[21:14] <agike> simulating initial login ..
[21:14] <kyle__> shadowmaxss: if you're using windows, you're stuck either buying the CALs, or violating your licensing.
[21:15] <shadowmaxss> So there aren't any Open Source Alternatives for a Citrix-Like Service?
[21:15] <brvitorio> olá pessoal
[21:15] <BlueWolf> I have a 2GB usb flash stick that is not reading in my Ubuntu and not working in my car to play music. Could it be something to do with the Ubuntu?
[21:15] <brvitorio> que saber algum jogo para ubuntu
[21:16] <brvitorio> ops eu quero saber se tem algum jogo daora para ubuntu?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> shadowmaxss: you can connect to terminal services with rdesktop
[21:16] <kyle__> shadowmaxss: Yes, the software you're speaking of has to run on windows, and only works for multiple clients trhough RDP or citrix.  There's nothing ubuntu, redhat, or any other linux can do to get around that.  That's windows software.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> !ltsp | shadowmaxss
[21:17] <x1k> does anyone have any issues that have not been addressed yet?
[21:17] <brvitorio> só tem norte-americano aqui é? não tem nenhum brasileiro?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> shadowmaxss: or just run openssh-server and X forward over SSH, it will be citrix-esque
[21:17] <guampa> !pt | brvitorio
[21:17] <brvitorio> valeu
[21:17] <kyle__> x1k: I get occasional lockups on 12.04 with my intel-graphics i5 laptop, but I haven't brought it up for awhile.  Why?
[21:18] <jump> go vw 5x5 na eac
[21:18] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, what filesystem is on that stick ? fat32 should be standard readable in devices & ubuntu
[21:18] <shadowmaxss> Cool Cool --- Good Ideas.
[21:19] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Not sure, it's not showing much in disk Utility?
[21:19] <spitzi> Hi guys. I'm trying to set up an NFS mount with permissions 0777 to a Windows folder, but the permissions stay 0700 no matter what I try. Is it doable ?
[21:20] <mneptok> shadowmaxss: you could just leave QuickBooks behind and use GNUcash. then your licensing issues are over.
[21:20] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, maybe. in gparted for sure.
[21:20] <shadowmaxss> I can't leave Quickbooks behind.  I have other software that depends on it that is also Windows Based (ERP).
[21:20] <Cyrax> operator
[21:20] <Cyrax> +O
[21:20] <Cyrax> please
[21:21] <mneptok> Cyrax: yes?
[21:21] <Cyrax> +O
[21:21] <Cottus> spitzi, windows might not support group and other permission
[21:21] <Cyrax> operator
[21:21] <mneptok> Cyrax: what are you asking?
[21:21] <shadowmaxss> I'm trying to get around doing 20 workstation updates when Quickbooks releases new software, all with varying flavours of Windows.
[21:21] <Cyrax> operator
[21:21] <Cyrax> +o
[21:21] <spitzi> Cottus - so Ubuntu depends on the Windows filesystem even for NFS mounts ?
[21:21] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: What do I do because it will not format it eather?
[21:21] <Cottus> i don't know
[21:22] <spitzi> Ok, thanks.
[21:22] <spitzi> Bye.
[21:22] <kyle__> shadowmaxss: I know novell has a system that can push out packages to windows boxes, but I've never used it.
[21:22] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, it should be formattable.
[21:23] <shadowmaxss> Novell, I thought they were dead after WinNT.  Wow, haven't heard that name in a while.
[21:23] <gmcinnes> Cottus: X isn't installed on the machine.  Would you say that because things are being logged as being ended by TERM signal it's definately not a kernel panic?
[21:23] <Cottus> i think he was dialing 0
[21:23] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Well it does not want to?
[21:23] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, buy a new one.
[21:23] <Cottus> gmcinnes, i don't know
[21:24] <Cottus> gmcinnes, might as well ask in ##linux
[21:24] <Cottus> those guys know
[21:24] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: True, but I don't like waisting resources when it still works?
[21:27] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, from my point of view it doesn't work as you want it to.
[21:27] <zLouD> &wc
[21:28] <mauricio> hello, a quick question, what is the command that is executed by pressing Alt + Prnt Scrn + B? i mean abrupt reset?
[21:28] <benxzyzzy> I just reopened my laptop lid and I'm not getting the screen unlock popup. I need to force a restart of the windowing system I think. How would I do this?
[21:29] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Is there any other thing I can do? I don't want to throw it away if it works. Only when I am absolutely sure that it's messed then I will get a new one?
[21:29] <trism> mauricio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key "Immediately reboot the system, without unmounting or syncing filesystem"
[21:29] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, try to format it on an other machine in fat32?
[21:29] <benxzyzzy> trism: was that aimed at me?
[21:30] <benxzyzzy> (never mind)
[21:30] <mrrothhcloud__> hi what are some good RSS feeds for my news reader (google reader) to read on my iPad while I am out
[21:30] <mrrothhcloud__> some good linux or geek / tech
[21:30] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Done that and the other machine with Ubuntu on it is also not picking it up
[21:30] <mauricio> trism, thanks :)
[21:30] <OerHeks> what is an ipad, mrrothhcloud__ ? does it run ubuntu ?
[21:30] <xangua> !ot | mrrothhcloud__
[21:31] <mrrothhcloud__> it runs ubuntu via VNC client
[21:31] <sglepage> Hello
[21:31] <kyle__> OerHeks: I'm sure someone has gotten NetBSD on an ipad, if not ubuntu.
[21:31] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, my guess it is Vfat or something.
[21:32] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Suggestions because If I play around with it by pluging and unpluging it eventually mounts on the desktop?
[21:33] <trism> benxzyzzy: wasn't, but you can use alt+sysrq+k to kill all apps on the current console (which will restart x but you may lose any unsaved data), there is also the reisub sysrq combo that allows you to safely reboot the system in certain circumstances
[21:33] <sglepage> Anybody know how handle a .apple file?
[21:33] <trism> !reisub | benxzyzzy
[21:33] <agike> Cottus: I hate to be boring, but now I get sudo -i "grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[21:33] <benxzyzzy> thanks
[21:33] <agike> -bash: grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory
[21:34] <agike> .. but it is there ..
[21:34] <OerHeks> mrrothhcloud__, any browser has a buildin rss reader, standalone there is Liferea, Tickr rssowl
[21:34] <Cottus> i meant sudo -i , enter the code, then you become root, now try that command
[21:34] <guntbert> agike: omit the -i
[21:35] <guntbert> agike: ignore me
[21:35] <benxzyzzy> In the end I restarted X windows with alt+prtscr+k, and logged back in
[21:35] <benxzyzzy> thanks again though :)
[21:35] <benxzyzzy> exit
[21:35] <benxzyzzy> oops
[21:36] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, on what machine does that usb stick actually work?
[21:36] <BlueWolf> This machine I am using now but it's not reading at the moment
[21:37] <Cottus> agike, there is a command sudo -? "mpla mpla mpla", but one can see it with "sudo --help" , i don't have sudo installed
[21:37] <BlueWolf> Even If I play around with it
[21:37] <agike> sudo "grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[21:37] <agike> sudo: grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg: command not found
[21:37] <agike> .. but  ..
[21:38] <agike> 'info grub-mkconfig' tells me
[21:38] <agike> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:38] <_raven> xubuntu 12.04 - how to install also "non-vital" packages automatically without the need of clicking "install all" every day?
[21:40] <mrrothhcloud__> no I know of client, I am saying of acutely content OerHeks
[21:40] <agike> .. which generated a grub.cfg which included the debian, but not the ubuntu drive.
[21:42] <OerHeks> mrrothhcloud__, i do not use rss, so i don't know any 'content'. i wonder if canonical uses rss ..
[21:42] <mrrothhcloud__> I have think geek RSS
[21:42] <mrrothhcloud__> I have think geek, gizmodo, apple insider, tech net, and so on but nothing with linux
[21:43] <cornfeed> hello
[21:43] <Cottus> agike, i believe it should have made an entry, unless you're mistaking the partitions
[21:44] <x64> my net dongle is not supporting ubuntu
[21:44] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: So any Ideas?
[21:44] <Cottus> wait, the entry does not contain -2.6.38-10-generic?
[21:44] <cornfeed> i am trying to compile a driver into my kernel and was having probels....the instructions say to use make and make install, but do i also need to use make modules? or maybe remake the initramfs?
[21:44] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, nope.
[21:44] <agike> Cottus: yes it does
[21:45] <agike> contain it
[21:45] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Gee thanks hey, :D
[21:45] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, yw
[21:45] <alexm> hey, can someone help me with this: myersg2
[21:46] <Cottus> agike, did you mix up the partitions? is /boot/ empty ?
[21:46] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: ;-)
[21:46] <alexm> https://gist.github.com/1318300
[21:46] <alexm> im runny fedora on my desktop/server
[21:46] <_raven> xubuntu 12.04 - how to install also "non-vital" packages automatically without the need of clicking "install all" every day?
[21:46] <OerHeks> alexm, this is ubuntu support.
[21:47] <alexm> I know.. but no one can help me there..and I use ubuntu
[21:47] <alexm> Ok, just for the help...Im running it on a ubuntu server
[21:48] <alexm> Yes im running subsonic on ubuntu, and I need help with this: https://gist.github.com/1318300
[21:49] <agike>  Cottus: apologies in advance for minor flooding of this channel, but
[21:49] <agike> abi-2.6.38-10-generic     initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic  System.map-2.6.38-10-generic
[21:49] <agike> config-2.6.38-10-generic  memtest86+.bin                vmcoreinfo-2.6.38-10-generic
[21:49] <agike> grub                      memtest86+_multiboot.bin      vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic
[21:49] <FloodBot1> agike: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <agike> is the contewnts of /boot
[21:49] <Cottus> then i don't know
[21:50] <zeroziat> Hello, I am getting this error, trying to desperately get my machine back in shape: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle.
[21:50] <zeroziat> Err, I've no idea if I just lost connectio, let me repost my question
[21:50] <zeroziat> Hello, I am getting this error, trying to desperately get my machine back in shape: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle.
[21:50] <alexm> how do I login to irc with a redister username and password?
[21:50] <zeroziat> This I get when I do the command
[21:50] <guntbert> !register | alexm
[21:50] <zeroziat> sudo chroot "/media/1f0fb2d7-fb74-4669-b317-7759bb8cc1fe" apt-get install -y --force-yes grub-pc
[21:50] <mneptok> alexm: the instructions are for disabling the donationware aspect of the mobile client.
[21:51] <agike> Cottus: Thanks - I might try a debian live CD ..
[21:51] <zeroziat> Are my messages going through? Kinda laggy and all...
[21:51] <Cottus> ok
[21:52] <alexm> are there any good alternitives to subsonic?
[21:53] <ccherrett> mneptok: alternative iso fails as well
[21:54] <OerHeks> alexm, subsonic could work > http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp#debian
[21:55] <zeroziat> Hello, I am getting this error, trying to desperately get my machine back in shape: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle.
[21:55] <alexm> It wouldn't work for me on ubuntu...
[21:55] <zeroziat> Installing GRUB, which isn't working as much since my Windows installation won't boot
[21:55] <OerHeks> alexm, you probably use OpenJDK now, and you need the jre
[21:56] <alexm> It was just the file was bad
[21:56] <alexm> but it works on fedora.. I just need help with a patch
[21:56] <jpdumont> join #xcsoar
[21:56] <ccherrett> mneptok: I develop openoctave and wanted to support ubuntu users better. They are always having issues with the way ubuntu sets up jack audio
[21:56] <OerHeks> alexm, can't help you with bad file. download it again?
[21:57] <ccherrett> mneptok: but if ubuntu cannot detect a simple keyboard and mouse and I have to spend a whole day trying to get an install to run, then I have to give up and let the ubuntu users do their own thing
[21:57] <ccherrett> mneptok: thanks for the help
[21:58]  * ccherrett goes back to gentoo
[21:59] <mneptok> ccherrett: the sheer numbers of Ubuntu users seems to indicate yours is a corner case.
[22:00] <ccherrett> mneptok: I see this issue with 12.04 all over google
[22:00] <Cottus> ccherrett, you can try debian
[22:00] <ccherrett> mneptok: happening with upgrades and new installs
[22:00] <zeroziat> Test
[22:01] <ccherrett> Cottus: no I wanted to help out ubuntu users
[22:01] <ccherrett> Cottus: specifically ubuntu
[22:01] <mneptok> ccherrett: then check Launchpad for know bugs.
[22:01] <Cottus> hmm
[22:01] <ccherrett> so I thought I would install one production machine with ubuntu
[22:01] <cornfeed> ccherrett: i have had less problems with gentoo that with all other distros
[22:01] <cornfeed> than*
[22:01] <ccherrett> Cottus: I usually build a custom gentoo install
[22:01] <Cottus> THE KING
[22:02] <mneptok> ccherrett: you could always see what happens in a Virtualbox Ubuntu VM under Gentoo
[22:02] <Cottus> :D
[22:02] <ccherrett> cornfeed: gentoo has issues, but I can debug it easy enough
[22:02] <wo33lock> ok
[22:02] <Cottus> heh
[22:02] <ccherrett> mneptok: it installs in a vm fine for me
[22:02] <ccherrett> mneptok: I have a running vm here right now
[22:02] <ccherrett> no issues
[22:03] <cornfeed> ccherrett: all distros have troubles, but like you said, gentoo is easy to get to the root of the issue
[22:03] <cornfeed> and by nature you are more in-tune with your system because you had to custom make it
[22:03] <mneptok> ccherrett: then please do check Launchpad. and the VM should be able to offer all you need for a dev/build environment
[22:03] <ccherrett> cornfeed: I feel like I am falling behind on the times with genoo, I do not know the ubuntu language
[22:03] <cornfeed> same
[22:03] <ccherrett> cornfeed: I am a dino :)
[22:04] <mneptok> this is a support channel. let's keep it to questions and answers.
[22:04] <cornfeed> thats why i am in this room and install ubuntu right now :-P
[22:04] <ccherrett> cornfeed: haha
[22:04] <cornfeed> mneptok: sorry, just a wee bit of fun
[22:04] <mneptok> (kids these days)
[22:04] <ccherrett> pesky gentoo children
[22:05] <zeroziat> Hello? Boot-Repair-Disc uninstalled my GRUB but I can't reinstall it and I can't reboot and my Windows XP installation is broken...
[22:06] <zeroziat> When I try to reinstall GRUB
[22:06] <zeroziat> This pops up
[22:06] <zeroziat> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle.
[22:06] <cornfeed> okay so i am installing 10.4 server (no i cant use 12 in this situation) and after running apt-get upgrade i get a message saying it has held back from installing linux-headers-server, linux-image-server and linux-server. i think those are the new kernels, right? so how come it didnt want to install them??
[22:06] <zeroziat> Hello?
[22:07] <cornfeed> zeroziat: how are you trying to re-install grub?
[22:08] <mneptok> cornfeed: "upgrade" will only upgrade the uname in place. what you want is dist-upgrade.
[22:08] <zeroziat> cornfeed: I'm on Boot-repair-disc LiveCD right now, and since my windows XP bootup didn't work at all I tried to tell it to purge and reinstall GRUB
[22:08] <wylde> cornfeed: mneptok beat me to it.
[22:08] <zeroziat> It could purge it, but when I try to install it that pops up
[22:08] <cornfeed> zeroziat: you have to do a repair install using a windows cd to repair the windows boot
[22:09] <cornfeed> zeroziat: then use a linux disk to re-install the mutilboot
[22:09] <zeroziat> cornfeed: It won't detect the windows installation
[22:09] <cornfeed> what wont? a windows cd or the live cd you are using now?
[22:09] <zeroziat> Windows CD
[22:09] <zeroziat> Skips straight to installation
[22:09] <cornfeed> :-/
[22:09] <cornfeed> thats a tough one
[22:09] <zeroziat> I tried going to the recovery console and using 'bootcfg' and 'chkdsk' and all
[22:09] <zeroziat> I knoww
[22:10] <zeroziat> I've been aching over this for... 4 days now
[22:10] <cornfeed> -_-
[22:10] <cornfeed> no good
[22:10] <zeroziat> And now I can't get GRUB back on so I keep making it worse
[22:10] <mneptok> zeroziat: you might want to ask in ##windows
[22:11] <cornfeed> and #grub
[22:11] <wylde> zeroziat: do you have all your important data backed up? Personally I'd start there before further mucking about. :)
[22:11] <tgm4883> How can I revert a commit in BZR that I have already pushed to a shared branch?
[22:11] <altruism> if one use NFS, what is "normal" write performance on a SATA drive?
[22:12] <mneptok> tgm4883: bzr revert
[22:12] <zeroziat> wylde: I have a partition with my important data backed up, yes
[22:12] <cornfeed> mneptok: i believe dist-upgrade will bring me to 12 though, no?
[22:12] <mneptok> cornfeed: no.
[22:12] <tgm4883> mneptok, right, but that just reverts the revision locally. How do I push that to the shared branch then?
[22:13] <cornfeed> ok
[22:13] <zeroziat> mneptok: I would but I need to get GRUB back too so I've no idea pretty much
[22:13] <altruism> (giga ethernet, cat-5e cable)
[22:13] <SadlyMistaken> hello everybody, I have a hp psc 1210 scanner/printer. Sometimes i scan with moiré and sometimes not, I would love to know 'why' please
[22:13] <mneptok> tgm4883: a revert should make your working tree contain the reverted change. so puch the working tree.
[22:13] <wylde> zeroziat: nice to finally hear that someone has a backup before mucking with system critical type stuffs :) +1 to you
[22:13] <mneptok> *push
[22:13] <cornfeed> altruism: depends on many factors
[22:13] <PuffTMD> Hey all
[22:13] <mneptok> tgm4883: but i am not bzr expert. there is #bzr for those people.
[22:13] <zeroziat> wylde: Yeah, this all started because of some virus I had in Windows...
[22:14] <cornfeed> altruism: 10-30mBps
[22:14] <PuffTMD> wondering if anyone can help with an issue I'm having with boot loader
[22:14] <altruism> cornfeed: is it possible 2 get as fast as it read?
[22:14] <zeroziat> wlyde: I'm just done breaking my Ubuntu so... yeah, I guess backups are a first in my case
[22:14] <tgm4883> mneptok, actually, bzr revert just reverts any uncommited changes you've made. bzr uncommit removes the last commit, but then your technically 1 revision behind the shared tree
[22:14] <cornfeed> altruism: i think you can push it with a raid0 but not completely
[22:14] <tgm4883> I'll ask in #bzr, thanks
[22:15] <altruism> cornfeed: I have 80-85 MB/s on read
[22:15] <wylde> zeroziat: sorry to hear that. Sadly, I have nothing to offer other than the suggestions made already. By the sound of matters though, I'd be preparing for the worst. A complete re-install of both.
[22:15] <cornfeed> hell ya
[22:15] <altruism> cornfeed: no RAID here
[22:15] <cornfeed> altruism: through nfs or local?
[22:15] <SadlyMistaken> wylde of both?
[22:15] <SadlyMistaken> wylde of both?
[22:15] <cornfeed> altruism: i know nfs is faster, but since i work with offices, i use smb
[22:15] <SadlyMistaken> hello everybody, I have a hp psc 1210 scanner/printer. Sometimes i scan with moiré and sometimes not, I would love to know 'why' please
[22:15] <wylde> ok of windows... then repair grub.
[22:15] <cornfeed> cifs*
[22:15] <zeroziat> It may just be my thing...
[22:15] <PuffTMD> I've installed ubuntu via a bootable USB & advised it not working.
[22:16] <altruism> cornfeed: NFS on my home network
[22:16] <altruism> cornfeed: no Microsoft in my home :)
[22:16] <cogster> I see hex boxes :@
[22:16] <zeroziat> Repairing is too hard
[22:16] <PuffTMD> found article on ask ubuntu on possible repair which I've done but it advises created boot section at start of disk then re-running boot-repair
[22:16] <altruism> cornfeed: and as you said, NFS is faste
[22:16] <cogster> WHY!?
[22:16] <cornfeed> altruism: lucky you
[22:16] <zeroziat> I'll just go break everything again and redo it
[22:17] <altruism> cornfeed: fasteR
[22:17] <cornfeed> zeroziat: thats the spirit!
[22:18] <altruism> cornfeed: for the moment, when I write to the disk, I get 50% of the read speed
[22:18] <cornfeed> unfortunately i dont know enough about nfs, but in general, the things that speed up writes are raids, and the filesystem you choose
[22:19] <altruism> cornfeed: maybe I should not expect more than that, I do not know
[22:19] <cornfeed> i was going to to say that :-P
[22:19] <cogster> Less mystically, how do I get my XChat client to use characters for the unicode I don't see as a character? :>
[22:19] <cornfeed> altruism: you can get faster writes, but you would certainly be pushing it. especially since you are not dealing with the quarks of windows
[22:20] <altruism> cornfeed: how is ext4?
[22:20] <zeroziat> If I run apt-get install grub-pc within a liveCD will the changes save to my hard disk or to the liveCD session?
[22:20] <cornfeed> altruism: good quesiton, i read about errors way back and havent played with it
[22:21] <zeroziat> Ah, gotta chroot
[22:21] <cornfeed> i use jfs at home and it is pretty fast. i can push 100MBs through a gigabit switch from a windows workstation to my raid 5 with a few tweaks to windows
[22:21] <altruism> cornfeed: I see
[22:21] <cornfeed> 100MBp/s
[22:22] <altruism> cornfeed: with RAID it is no match :-)
[22:22] <cornfeed> but i choose jfs because i store large files....if you arent as much of a pirate, xfs might be worth looking at too. but from what I have read, etx3 is truely the all-around best performer
[22:23] <altruism> cornfeed: I have never felt brave enough to try anything else than EXT
[22:24] <altruism> cornfeed: if I use jfs instead of ext4, would I notice it? (I do have a lot of large files)
[22:25] <cornfeed> i noticed when i came to whole seasons and movies
[22:25] <cogster> What do you people like from people seeking assistance with Ubuntu?  I want to mesh <3
[22:26] <cornfeed> altruism: but i will say, its not bad, but small files are noticeably slower than they could be. both reads and writes
[22:26] <altruism> cornfeed: but if I get you right, 40 MB/s on network write is good concidering I am not running raid?
[22:26] <cornfeed> i would say so
[22:27] <cornfeed> i am at an office right now where we use small dlink storage devices running samba. and I can only get ~11mBps
[22:27] <altruism> cornfeed: okey, then I can stop trying to tweek it some more :-D
[22:27] <cornfeed> and internal sata copy speeds on a windows workstation are closer to ~40mBps, so i would say you are doing good
[22:28] <haf> Hi guys; I have a question -- my login prompt only shows one single user and that's not the user that I am -- so I've been locked out from using the login manager for ubuntu -- how do I make sure both me and the newly added user shows up?
[22:29] <zeroziat> I'll just boot into GParted and kill the Linux and Windows partitions then reinstall them...
[22:29] <abimael> yoooooo i LOVE UBUNTU
[22:29] <abimael> just FYI lol Hello to all
[22:31] <altruism> cornfeed: thanx for your help
[22:32] <cornfeed> altruism: np
[22:32] <cornfeed> zeroziat: good luck, i hope you can back up before hand
[22:32] <altruism> cornfeed: some day soon I will set up a ZFS file server
[22:32] <cornfeed> oohhh me too!!
[22:32] <haf> Does somebody know how I make the default LightDM show a user that is missing?
[22:33] <schultza> id like to get the actual scrollbars back on all windows... how do i do that?
[22:33] <altruism> cornfeed: then I will have faster write speed :-)
[22:35] <cndiv> Long shot, but is anyone using Ubuntu with a Macbook and the mtrack driver?
[22:35] <altruism> cornfeed: ZFS is great! but if you want it fast, the hardware is not 10 $ :-)
[22:36] <cornfeed> yeah....
[22:38] <cogster> What language did they write the kernel in?
[22:39] <altruism> cornfeed: if you have a fast CPU, a lot of RAM, at least 4 mecanic disks, 2 SSD (cache), and you run it with compression... then it gets ridiculous fast.
[22:39] <schultza> cogster, c
[22:39] <schultza> cogster, that is really a questions for #kernel or #linux
[22:39] <cogster> What advantages and disadvantages cooperate within the relationship from C to ASM?
[22:39] <cogster> OK where does my next question go?
[22:40] <cogster> :B Thank you very much by the way, I appreciate your attention to my ignorance :)
[22:40] <schultza> in that case.. thats a #programming questions or #asm or #c
[22:42] <haf> does somebody know how I make lightdm display all users?
[22:43] <wo33lock> ok
[22:52] <Mrokii> Is there a way to include "regular" GUI elements like input fields, buttons and such in Screenlets? Or is there a way to include some kind of config-window with such input-fields (besides the regular-settings window that seems to be the same for every screenlet)?
[22:54] <haf> Hi! I'm missing a user in the lightdm login screen! How can I get that user back??
[22:56] <Black_TC> #tacacs
[23:02] <duli> everyday I get msgs like this "5 Jul 06:45:03 ntpdate[23217]: step time server 91.189.94.4 offset 0.828481 sec" in my email. How do I supress it?
[23:04] <haf> damn, why do I always end up eating ubuntu's bugs with noone there to help!
[23:04] <haf> 'System problem detected', awesome
[23:04] <x1k> a big highfive to StormTrooper! what a well chosen name :)
[23:04] <StormTrooper> lol
[23:04] <StormTrooper> i've had this nick for some time
[23:06] <brimestone> hey guys.. how to i clean the proc/mdstat? i still remembers an array that is gone
[23:06] <brimestone> /dev/sdb, sdc, sdd is being controlled by an old array.. and i want to create a new one
[23:07] <compdoc> brimestone, are they loading if /etc/fstab  ?
[23:07] <compdoc> in
[23:08] <haf> Every time I change a user in the ubuntu user panel, the panel user listing stops working and I have to reboot the computer to see my avatar in the uppermost right corner, alsol
[23:08] <brimestone> nope...
[23:08] <brimestone> just the /boot and swap
[23:09] <agike> Cottus: I don't know what it tells us, but 'sudo os-prober' recognises debian, but not ubuntu
[23:11] <Laice> lo, does anyone know how to send commands to TTYACM2 ?
[23:15] <D-Chymera> hi guys - is there any program in synaptic for monitoring stocks?
[23:15] <Laice> !tty
[23:15] <meoblast001> hi
[23:15] <Laice> !ttyACM2
[23:15] <meoblast001> i'm having an issue that i believe may be a unity bug
[23:16] <meoblast001> occasionally, at random, my machine will start to lock up and the hard drive light will turn on steady
[23:16] <meoblast001> is this a known issue?
[23:16] <Laice> not sure how that involves unity, as unity is just the graphical interface frontecd
[23:16] <Laice> frontend*
[23:16] <Laice> this will sound silly but is it likely to be an overheating issue?
[23:17] <bekks> Laice: Sounds pretty unlikely.
[23:18] <D-Chymera> hi guys - is there any program in synaptic for monitoring stocks?
[23:19] <IPfreely> yes stock tracker
[23:21] <agike> Cottus: os-prober does not recognise ubuntu .. que pasa ?
[23:26] <Mrokii> meoblast001: I notice the same issue from time to time, though I think it's not an Unity-exclusive issue. I think I also had it when using the classic environment.
[23:26] <meoblast001> hm, strange
[23:26] <meoblast001> has it been reported?
[23:28] <Mrokii> Not by me. Ubuntu was never really stable for me and I never found solutions for the problems so I more or less gave up looking for explanations. Wouldn't even know what to report, as the lock ups are totally random.
[23:29] <canfaller> AmI alone in saying i dislike unity
[23:29] <Mrokii> canfaller: nope.
[23:30] <compdoc> I install Ubuntu on a varieity of intel and amd cpus, and ssd and normal hard drives. its perfectly stable
[23:30] <canfaller> one has to ask what was they thinking im going back to 10.04
[23:30] <compdoc> variety
[23:30] <OerHeks> !nounity
[23:30] <bulletmark> canfaller: I thought I'd be alone saying I like Unity ;)
[23:31] <angelo_> I also like it! :D
[23:31] <Mrokii> compdoc: I'm using nVidia drivers so that may be one reason for the unstable system, not sure though.
[23:31] <Mrokii> I like Gnome Shell even less than Unity.
[23:31] <compdoc> Mrokii, possibly. I try to use only ubuntu's drivers, but sometimes I do install AMD's drivers
[23:32] <angelo_> What's the topic you're talking about about?
[23:32] <IPfreely> < Gnome cube very cool
[23:33] <jmad980> Mrokii: did you like gnome2?
[23:33] <bulletmark> Mrokii: If you are using nvidia driver then perhaps bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/973096 is your problem. Ubuntu 12.04 is unusable with nvidia for me due to this bug.
[23:33] <angelo_> quit
[23:33] <jagginess> lol.. angelo missed his / key
[23:34] <IPfreely> yo ops looking for a chan that will be able to help with portsentry script in 12.04
[23:35] <Mrokii> bulletmark: I experienced this bug only very rarely on 12.04, but that may be because I updated the driver meanwhile. I'm at version 302.x I think.
[23:36] <bulletmark> Mrokki: All nvidia versions from 295.33 to current 302.17 abort for me with a segmentation fault, as described in that bug.
[23:36] <faryshta> How do I manage volume on XFCE?
[23:37] <Toph2> farchanjo,,, i installed alsamixer
[23:37] <Toph2> faryshta,,,
[23:38] <jagginess> faryshta, audio volume? (not disk volume/partitions?)
[23:39] <jagginess> faryshta, there ought to be something with synaptic or ubuntusoftwarecenter..
[23:41] <schultza> i want to be able to get a full scroll bar on my windows again.. how do i do that?
[23:42] <compdoc> that would be nice
[23:42] <jagginess> schultza, it's a tweak somewhere, I've seen posted about it on ubuntu wiki
[23:42] <Mrokii> bulletmark: Strange. As I said, it happened only very rarely here, maybe once or twice since upgrading to 12.04 and with different nVidia-drivers.
[23:42] <brophat> can i upgrade from a cd?
[23:43] <Mrokii> schultza: You mean the old style with "full" scrollbars?
[23:43] <jagginess> schultza, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/08/restore-the-scrollbar-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[23:43] <jagginess> schultza, hopefully it does for 12.04 too
[23:44] <agike> if os-prober does not recognise ubuntu .. what does that mean ?
[23:44] <schultza> yes
[23:44] <agike> yes
[23:44] <ki4ro> .
[23:44] <Mrokii> schultza: There's the instruction for 12.04: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2012/05/disable-overlay-scrollbars-in-precise.html
[23:44] <jagginess> schultza, compdoc, i've had this bookmarked (for 12.04) http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[23:45] <Mrokii> Seems quite a few people dislike the new scrollbars, heh.
[23:45] <jagginess> I don't mind it.. as i just tend to use pgup/pgdown :p
[23:46] <jagginess> the approch Mrokii looks better
[23:46] <schultza> relogin.. ok.. be back
[23:46] <jagginess> (disabling with gsettigns is more convenient than apt uninstall a pacaakge)
[23:46] <bulletmark> Mrokii: Happens within a couple of hours for me. So nvidia driver. Hapily though, for the first time in the many years I have used Ubuntu, I discovered that the default nouveau driver works fine - in 3D Unity and gnome-shell. No compromise at all except perhaps in fps but I don't play games so don't care about that.
[23:48] <jagginess> bulletmark, nouveau driver hasnt been out for many years :)
[23:48] <IPfreely> Why the hell when i make a connection to this room I get ip 213.226.63.137 attempting to exploit Netbus subseven backdoor-g and other exploits viruses against my system OPS you need to ban that IP
[23:49] <luciousjr> hello, my wacom stopped working after being fine for weeks. Im on precise 64bit. Tablet still works in Windows. Any ideas?
[23:49] <IPfreely> its from Bulgaria region
[23:49] <jagginess> IPfreely, what model is it?
[23:50] <IPfreely> model?
[23:50] <OerHeks> IPfreely, join #freenode for that please.
[23:50] <bulletmark> jagginess: what does that sentence mean?
[23:50] <jagginess> IPfreely, wacom is the brand name. model means, the product title
[23:51] <IPfreely> OerHeks, read what I said, its this channel someone is script kittying users as they login here
[23:51] <Mrokii> bulletmark: I do play games so I never installed the nouveau driver. No clue at all how stable it is or how fast the 3D part is.
[23:51] <IPfreely> Jag you have wrong person you want Luciu
[23:51] <jagginess> ok
[23:52] <jagginess> luciousjr, wacom I have one (an old serial one) and i know this company is awesome, provide you can say the model and it's likely a driver is available for it
[23:52] <luciousjr> jagginess, It's an older Intuos 2
[23:53] <luciousjr> jagginess, usb hook up
[23:54] <jagginess> luciousjr, it ought to be in the package manager, wacom's site points to a sourceforge driver site for your product.. it should already be packaged or moduled somewhere
[23:54] <V3NG3NC3> kewl
[23:55] <V3NG3NC3> I am going to control 120,000 volts later tonigth with ubuntu :)
[23:55] <jagginess> luciousjr, lsmod   <enter>  , does it say wacom?
[23:55]  * V3NG3NC3 grins 
[23:55] <luciousjr> jagginess, the wacom module shows in lsmod, but it's not showing that it uses any device
[23:55] <Mrokii> Speaking of Wacom... I find it annoying that there is an entry for that in my system settings even though I never used a wacom tablet. And there doesn't seem to be a way to remove that thing from system settings.
[23:56] <jagginess> luciousjr, also be sure any wacom packages out to be installed (eg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wacom ) , apt-cache search wacom
[23:57] <jagginess> luciousjr, btw there's also this command, xsetwacom --list devices
[23:57] <susi> s
[23:59] <luciousjr> jagginess, xsetwacom --list devices, shows my tablet stylus,eraser, and cursor