[00:14] <Len-nb> micahg, when you are ready to do some releasing, ubuntustudio-look is also been updated.
[00:14] <Len-nb> s/is/has
[03:03] <micahg> Len-nb: sorry, probably not going to happen before the weekend
[03:07] <Len-nb> micahg, no hurry. Some of this was ready last cycle, just wanted to make sure it got done this time.
[04:18] <Len-nb> ailo, re -default-settings, The changes I made to the menu(s) is backport-able. That is it works with precise too. I left precise things in there. It corrects the accessory/networking icons and moves more stuff out of media player (like the extra mixers)
[04:19] <Len-nb> These are things reported as bugs in precise.
[04:31] <ailo> Len-nb: Not sure if we should backport of do stable update
[04:32] <ailo> I've never actually had a look at the backport procedure before, and still have to get how it works properly
[04:32] <ailo> Stable update should update the package, and the next LTS release (12.04.1) should include it
[04:33] <ailo> qjackctl is now backported, but I haven't got it installed yet. Haven't had time to look
[04:33] <Len-nb> ailo, how do we make sure the change goes in for that?
[04:34] <ailo> Len-nb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[04:34] <ailo> backporting doesn't seem like the best way to go, when fixing bugs
[04:39] <micahg> ailo: Len-nb: bugs should be SRUd, features backported
[04:51] <Len-nb> micahg, ok I'll wait till it tested in quantal. I'll take the package and test it against a new precise install to make sure there is no regression. Then I can SRU it.
[06:55] <jussi> astraljava: Im not on the ircc...
[06:57] <micahg> anymore...
[06:57] <micahg> or were you never?  just an admin
[07:17] <jussi> micahg: anymore
[07:17] <jussi> I was for a long time
[07:31] <knome> ailo, i'm not exactly proposing to create a -bugs list
[07:31] <knome> ailo, just the LP team; those who are in that team, will get bugmail
[07:31] <knome> ailo, (US bugmail isn't sent to any list atm either)
[07:32] <micahg> please make bugmail opt in
[07:32]  * micahg gets enough already...
[07:32] <knome> micahg, that's what i'm after too :)
[07:33] <knome> i'm currently just filtering it away, but i could do without it
[07:38] <astraljava> jussi: But you are still attending to their meetings.
[07:38] <astraljava> attending their*?
[07:39] <ailo> I should probably just get the ubuntustudio-bugs mail list deleted. Even so, is it possible to make the bug mail from a launchpad project only be directed to one group?
[07:40] <ailo> one team, I mean..
[07:42] <ailo> filtering seems to be required in any case
[07:43] <astraljava> ailo: Did you talk to the Kubuntu people, yet? I think it's a good idea to have a separate bugmail list, as you can see, many people want bugmail as opt-in rather than how it's now, on the -devel list.
[07:44] <ailo> astraljava: We don't have bugmail in the -devel list? I think, only the build notices
[07:45] <ailo> I'll talk with kubuntu folks and see how they do it
[07:47] <astraljava> ailo: Not all of it, no. But some, and I assumed many people didn't want any of it.
[07:49] <ailo> I can't find any 6 months back. There's just the build failures. Those could be redirected elsewhere, perhaps
[08:08] <astraljava> ailo: Bugs filed against the project, for instance.
[08:09] <astraljava> "You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Studio Development Team, which is the registrant for Ubuntu Studio."
[08:11] <ailo> astraljava: I think there's no way of changing that, unless we remove bug management from the Ubuntu Studio team to the ubuntustudio-bugs team
[08:11] <ailo> Or, no
[08:12] <ailo> If we create a project called Ubuntu Studio Bugs, and have the team be it's admin
[08:12] <ailo> And have the bug reporting take place there
[08:12] <ailo> I would suspect that is what it would take
[08:24] <astraljava> Ok. Well, maybe that's not such a big issue, I suppose bugs aren't filed against the project that often.
[08:25] <knome> no, not really
[08:25] <knome> and when they are, it's not too bad if it ends to the -devel list :)
[08:28] <ailo> This part of the header is probably the best way to filter Ubuntu Studio specific bugs: "X-launchpad-bug: product=ubuntustudio;"
[08:28] <knome> i use X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale
[13:19] <len-dt> Bug 1020574, is fixed we may get an installable ISO today
[13:22] <len-dt> scott-work, greetings. Two menu fixes are in. The mixers have been moved, and we now point to the right *.directory files for xfce
[13:25] <scott-work> len-dt: awesome! thank you :)
[13:26] <scott-work> i want to tell you that i am amazed and appreciate the involvement i see from you, ailo, and astraljava
[13:26] <scott-work> i think it's bloody amazing!
[13:34] <len-dt> scott-work, no problem. I would like to seed/include qmidiroute which allows splitting keyboards etc. At least one user has asked for this
[13:34] <len-dt> and I can't find anything we have that does that
[13:34] <len-dt> I haven't heard any objections but thought I should pass it by you
[13:35] <len-dt> Also changing taskmanager to system monitor.
[13:50] <len-dt> scott-work, system manager seems to give a better representation of memory used by an application.
[13:51] <len-dt> If these don't bother you, I'll do it.
[14:12] <scott-work> len-dt: i don't see any problems, but would you mind posting to the mailing list just to ask for a more general opinion?
[14:12] <astraljava> scott-work: I haven't done anything, it's the two lads here who run the show nowadays. :)
[14:13] <len-dt> scott-work, will do.
[16:15] <scott-work> ailo: you still want ubuntustudio-dev to invite the ubuntustudio-bugteam, correct?