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defaultusertrying to add a global-shortcut to a sh-file, any idea how to sucess?00:19
Daskreechdefaultuser: a sh file?00:21
defaultuseryep00:22
defaultuseradding a global-shortcut that runs a sh-file in the terminal00:22
Daskreechah00:24
defaultuserok forget about it, got it working ^^00:26
defaultusercheers, have a nice day :)00:26
DaskreechOk00:28
DaskreechYou can do that from the menu editor00:28
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EphosI came in here to ask for help, but I just solved my own problem01:54
poetic_algebragj =]01:55
EphosFor anyone else experiencing the same issue as I was, anyone with an AMD card running propietary drivers, and your HDMI is overscanning, try "sudo aticonfig --set-dispattrib=dfpX,sizeX/Y:number" using xrandr to find out what your display name is.01:56
EphosAnd then at the end ",positionX/Y:0"01:56
EphosMy display was a square in the middle of my screen surrounded by six inch black borders after I installed my AMD drivers. :[01:56
EphosI've never had an OS before where I'd use a command-line at least twenty times a day01:57
DaskreechEphos: how did you find that out?02:11
DaskreechEphos: I used Windows 3.1 does that count? :)02:11
poetic_algebrasame here, Daskreech =]02:12
poetic_algebradir/w =P02:12
Daskreechhaving poked fun. I do really like the command line and other than the painful memory burden I think it's an elegant method of communication02:13
poetic_algebrayeah; I love it for lots of things, dislike it for more complicated things02:13
poetic_algebralike, complicated things that belong in a gui02:13
EphosDaskreech, I typed aticonfig into konsole02:23
EphosThen I read slowly02:23
* Daskreech husg Ephos with tears in his eyes02:24
DaskreechSomeone who reads!02:24
Daskreechpoetic_algebra: what belongs in a gui? I've found one thing that I can't do pretty well on the command line02:24
EphosI think anything that requires more than four/five commands in the terminal probably needs a gui02:26
poetic_algebraDaskreech: I think Ephos has the right idea02:28
DaskreechEphos: depends on the context.02:29
poetic_algebrayou can do everything in the cli, but it's not always the most efficient or convenient method02:29
EphosInstalling Oracle Java was a PITA.. someone made a repository with an installer package, and they got huge <3s from me for that02:29
Ephoshttps://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java02:30
poetic_algebrasometimes you just want a tic box rather than a long command02:30
poetic_algebralike, an example02:30
poetic_algebrayou can color the terminal prompt02:31
poetic_algebrabut it's a string of hard-to-remember symbols02:31
poetic_algebrait'd just be easier to go Preferences --> color command prompt, and select a color02:31
Daskreechpoetic_algebra: agreed but I think more things are easily done with a single extendable core than the rainbow coloured playroom that GUIs can be02:31
poetic_algebrayeah, trust me, I love the cli; it just isn't perfect for everything02:32
DaskreechEphos: Yeah packaging is so great. I'm glad the rest of the world is slowly starting to catch on02:32
poetic_algebraI prefer to apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade over using the gui, because it's silly to commit the resources to that02:32
poetic_algebraand the load time is so much more02:32
Daskreechpoetic_algebra: Oh no. It's not but I prefer it as a base with GUIs where it makes sense than GUIs and CLI's as a workaround (See Windows)02:32
poetic_algebraah, yes, I'm in strong agreement there02:33
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poetic_algebraone of these days I'd love to wade into the arch waters, speaking of cli =]02:34
DaskreechEphos: CLI I must admit is not nearly as compelling without scripting02:38
DaskreechI hope that when we move to the next level of CLI someone will remember that02:38
V3NG3NC345yo04:06
thissentenceisfahey, I do not use IRC pretty much ever, but I want some help with Inkscape tonight, and I wonder what channel I might join for that?04:08
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ahmadhello everyone05:01
ahmadwelcome05:01
ahmadanybody in this room??05:03
ahmadplease answer me05:03
ahmadwelcome05:04
ahmadhellooww05:06
ahmadwelcome05:07
ahmad_hello05:19
randompersonis use of kde on nexus looking probable?05:54
floownhi06:55
floownwhere is md5sum for the Ubuntu server CD ? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server06:56
floownok… https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes/06:57
surfnhey, I'm having a problem with Dolphin requiring me to enter a username and password for an anonymous SMB server07:08
psicobra!off topic09:06
psicobrawhat is the off topic channel called09:06
psicobra?09:07
psicobra!ot09:08
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:08
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BluesKajHi all10:46
mydogsnameisrudymorning10:53
BluesKajup early too eh , 'morning10:58
mydogsnameisrudyim up most days at this time11:22
mydogsnameisrudyjust moving slow the last few days here must be the heat11:22
BluesKajrained here for a couple hrs last night , cooled things off11:33
mydogsnameisrudyyep a bit of rain this morning . should clear by noon i think11:33
mydogsnameisrudywas just looken at zorin os wondering why so many linux os out there ,,,11:35
mydogsnameisrudyseems to be to many i think11:35
BluesKajppl , keep creating derivatives of the 5 or 6  basic OSs11:43
bumblebee_can anyone help me with following error: http://pastebin.com/wTWLxXnn11:48
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falcogwdid not have that problem on gnome, but now i do with kubuntu11:51
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Bradley23how do i set up kubuntu so that when i connect my two computers (both with kubuntu) with an ethernet cable, that i can transfer files between the two. i am having a hard time finding concise information that isnt overwhelming.11:54
BluesKajfalcogw, you installed bumblebee in ubuntu or kubuntu ? It shouldn't make any differnce11:55
falcogwBluesKaj: first i did in ubuntu gnome, now i switched to kubuntu and started over, now i got that error when i try to start the ui11:56
falcogwbut appindicator is not something from bumblebee, but from ubuntu no?11:56
falcogwisnt that some python-module or something?11:56
BluesKajBradley23, checkout networkik in dolphin , then choose add network folder , use secure shell option , that's best for 2 linux pcs11:57
Bradley23BluesKaj: it asks for a lot of information of which i know very little. name, user port, encoding etc.  is there a good step by step guide that can help me to understand what it is asking?11:59
BluesKajBradley23, , are you going thru a router/modem to the internet and local network ?12:01
Bradley23BluesKaj: no. i was hoping to be able to connect the two laptops (one i use as a desktop replacement) and the other i take to class. i would like to be able to put an ethernet cable in between and have them recognize each others home files.12:03
Bradley23i am connected to the internet but it is through wifi on my roommate's router12:03
mydogsnameisrudyBluesKaj: is that like mapping a drive folder?12:04
BluesKajdunno about an ethernet cable between 2 machines , Bradley23 , mydogsnameisrudy ...the ethernet port looks for internet protocols afaik ,a crossover cable would be best in that setup12:06
jdsapt-get install eclipse -> Will this install Eclipse 4.2?12:08
mydogsnameisrudyhmmm the wifes computer has no close button in the upper corner just min and max no x to close window?12:09
szaljds: apt-cache showpkg eclipse <- should tell you what version is in the repos12:11
jdsOkay got it.12:12
jdsIs there a way to install 4.2 via apt-get?12:12
BluesKajtoo bad he left , the ethernet crossover apparently is supposed to work , I always thought the data ports were needed for that .12:12
BluesKajjds, look in your package manager12:13
jdsI'm looking right now. Just seeing 3.7 here12:13
irohi am here. i was fiddling with the network12:14
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Bradley23BluesKaj: i am here. i was fiddling with the network. i didnt realize it changed the name of everything12:15
Bradley23BluesKaj: the laptop and the desktop have the same name. that might be the problem.12:17
BluesKajBradley23, you still need the IP address of the the target machine ,  do ifconfig on that laptop , look for inet addr:192.168.,X,XX ...same name perhaps but they'll have diiferent IPs , should matter12:18
falcogwHi I found this about appindicator, how can i install it in kubuntu? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python-appindicator12:18
Bradley23BluesKaj: k.12:19
BluesKajBradley23, ifconfig in the terminal12:19
Bradley23is it the hwaddress?12:22
BluesKajfalcogw, libappindicator0  is in the repos in your package manager12:22
BluesKajBradley23, is there no inet address ?12:25
BluesKajBradley23, make sure the ethernet cable is connected between the laptops12:26
Bradley23BluesKaj: yes. the connections are firm.12:28
BluesKajfalcogw, look in muon in kmenu> apps>system>muon12:28
Bradley23BluesKaj:  i get a HWaddress and 7 other lines.12:28
BluesKajokmwhat's the hw address ?12:29
BluesKajyou need the username and password for the target laptop as well the HW address (which I assume subs for the inet in this case) , use port 22 for secure shell (ssh) ,and the target /home folder would be a good choice12:32
BluesKajBradley23, ^12:33
bumblebee_BluesKaj: Thanks, found it :)12:36
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Bradley23sorry. i keep getting changed to iroh12:37
Bradley23BluesKaj: 1c:75:08:1d:fe:4e12:38
BluesKajok Bradley23 , I'll repost you need the username and password for the target laptop as well the HW address (which I assume subs for the inet in this case) , use port 22 for secure shell (ssh) ,and the target /home folder would be a good choice12:38
BluesKajBradley23, normally port 22 is already the default when secure shell is chosen12:40
BluesKajBradley23, you shold see an inet address, he address is hardware address , inet is probly on the second line in ifconfig12:43
BluesKajhw + hardware ..we don't need that12:43
Joitdoes someone know how it works, that a newer version from a package makes it into the the distro? like crystalspace 1.4, newer one is cs-2.0.12:43
BluesKajhw=hardwarw12:43
Joithw adress also has an other appearance, ip = 000.xxx.xxx hw = 00:00:0012:45
Bradley23BluesKaj: yes. it is port 22. i put in the inet6 addy but get the error <<Unable to connect to server.  Please check your settings and try again.>>12:46
BluesKajBradley23, not the inet6 , use one like this , inet addr:192.168..X.XX12:48
Bradley23BluesKaj:  ok it is in the wlan0 data.12:49
BluesKajBradley23, can you pastebin you ifconfig result12:49
Bradley23BluesKaj:  something is happening really slowly.12:50
Bradley23BluesKaj: it looks like a sftp connection is trying to form according to the notification widget12:51
BluesKajBradley23, yes that's misleading , i get that too12:52
BluesKajBradley23, are both laptops connected to the same network ?12:53
Bradley23BluesKaj:  i just took the desktop replacement off of wifi.12:54
BluesKajif both laptops are on wifi you can connect very easily . this crossover cable complicates things if the laptops are still connected to a network , try one connection or the other , but not both12:56
Bradley23BluesKaj:  now i am getting the error <<No route to host.>>12:58
BluesKajBradley23, pls pastebin the ifconfig output13:00
BluesKaj!paste13:00
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BluesKajL3top, any experience with ethernet crossover cable connections ?13:01
Bradley23BluesKaj:  i need to call it a night. i get up in a couple of hours. thank you for your help so far. if i continue i will start making mistakes. i will come back online tonight. is that okay?13:02
BluesKajBradley23, where are you ?...I might be sleeping13:02
JoitBluesKaj: i played once a bit around, what i have seen, you sometimes need crossed cables13:02
Joitdifferent to the one what you can buy, i manually made them13:02
Bradley23BluesKaj: boise idaho:13:03
Joitbut i didnt get it now, if he want do a wireless connection or a connections with cables13:03
BluesKajyeah jolt you probly mean dataport13:03
Bradley23north american mountain time -- i think it is -7 or -8 utc.13:04
Bradley23it is 7 am and i have to be somewhere at 10 am.13:04
Joitstrange anyway by me, i tried to connect yesterday to my pther pc too, i got a dsl router, i can ping the linux machine, but from linux to window i got all time timeout13:04
BluesKajBradley23, I'm in Ontario Canada...ok i'll be around  this evening ..T still think just connecting by wifi without crossovers is best13:05
Bradley23BluesKaj:  okay. i am still a beginner with most of this. i was told that ethernet was faster than wifi. but at this point whatever works.13:05
Joitdepends on your card, wifi should support 50 mb/sec, some cards support 10/mb, some 100mb/sec13:06
Joitand the router mostly only support 10mb/sec13:06
BluesKajethernet is faster but wifi is also physically more easily done as well ,13:06
Joitso when wireless even would work with 50/mb/sec, then its still restricted from the router13:07
BluesKajBradley23,^ ...have a good one13:07
Joitgbye bradley Hurry!!13:07
Joit :D13:07
Bradley23BluesKaj:  okay i will be back this evening. have a good night. and thank you again.13:07
Bradley23thank you  joit also13:07
BluesKajBradley23, np :)13:07
BluesKajjolt , well wifi is so handy . no fooling around with cables etc13:08
Joityes, but i still had my issues with wifi, i was at all mostly faster to only connect my cables13:08
Joitand i dont like the radiation from it13:09
Joiti do not use wifi when i dont need it13:09
TheLordOfTime...13:09
TheLordOfTimethe "radiation" from wifi is no more than that of a radio13:09
TheLordOfTimeactually...13:09
TheLordOfTimea microwave gives off more13:09
TheLordOfTimeso does a TV13:09
FloodBotK1TheLordOfTime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:09
TheLordOfTimesilence you!13:10
Joiti dont care, and its probatly not the ammount, but the frequency. also when i have allready a tv and a radio and my neighbour too, then i dont need to add one more source13:10
Joitsure its handy, but there probatly could be other ways for wifi's13:11
Joiti dont trust the science anyway :) when they tell you, what is dangerous or what not13:12
Joitsame with the cellphones, it only makes me uh oh, rly13:12
Joitbut back to the wireless, its true, they are simple to set, usual you only need the key at the router and there you go13:13
* TheLordOfTime doesnt particularly care13:13
TheLordOfTimeyour loss, IMO, but idc13:13
Joitmy loss? what are you talking about13:14
Joitthat my brain get not toasted ?13:14
* TheLordOfTime points out you're drifting into offtopicness13:15
Joitwhen you work with hard connections then it is not  much more work as with wifi13:15
Joitit just does not work anywhere, or is handy to have cables laying around13:18
JoitBluesKaj:  probatly he has to set something in his router? i got a new box lately where the access to the other machines must be set. you can use the net from it, but not the local netwrok13:19
BluesKaj I don't have a problem with wifi ..i have technical background in electronics and other related fields , all the BS about wifi being dangerous in the schools shows a lack of knowledge about rf energy13:19
TheLordOfTimeBluesKaj:  wives tales too, dont forget about those :P13:20
Joitwell, i simple dont trust it, you cant estimate the long term damage really. and thats where they lack to provide it13:21
BluesKajjolt I have a local network with wifi setup here at home , I'll halp him set his up when he has the time to do so13:21
Joitthere are a lot natural sources from raaditation no question, but the one what they give us, no thanks13:21
JoitBluesKaj: did you had to configure your router ?13:22
Joitand sometimes it first start working, when you got at last one shared folder at both machines13:22
BluesKajjolt , no just the laptop and pc IPs and pws with ssh using the network folder option in dolphin network ..I can also ssh directly from the terminal13:23
JoitBluesKaj:  any idea why my linux machine cant ping my windows machine over the router?13:24
Joitprobatly he didnt set anythin right now, you will probatly figure it out later :)13:25
BluesKajat one time when my family was visiting a christmas we had 3 windows laptops a macbook and my 3 pcs all on the network simultaneously13:25
Joitheh, sounds like fun13:26
BluesKajjolt , do have access to your router settings13:26
Joityes13:26
Joiti do13:26
BluesKajthen use the windows IP to ping13:26
Joiti did that,13:27
Joitand it pings once then timeouts13:27
L3topHi BluesKaj... not on linux unfortunately.13:27
L3topBluesKaj: sorry... misread that... crossover yes... crossfire (ATI) no13:27
Joiterr, it doesnt even reach it once, just start to send it13:28
BluesKajL3top, ok thanks ..i think we'llprobly make him realize that using the wifi is a lot less cumbersome13:28
Joitahaha, figured it out, my firewall did block it, commodo is not bad :)13:29
BluesKajL3top, but if you're around this evening , we may need your expertise , maybe a crossover cable is the only option. I'm not sure about the setup .13:30
L3topturns out most modern nics do autoswitching now... so if one or both nics autoswitch you can just use regular cables.13:30
* L3top just learned this trying to figure out how someones setup was working at all13:31
BluesKajL3top,yes  ethernet , I thought was talking dataport13:31
BluesKajI didn't know cat5/6 would work13:31
* L3top is just wiping boogers from eyes. Gets coffee13:32
NicekiwiI cant kill a windows thats open, help?13:37
BluesKajjolt do you have any shared dirs on the the target pc , especially windows requires shared folders to be accessible from linux13:38
BluesKajoops , not a good explanation there , windows requires folders to be in the shared mode so one can access them from or even other windows pcs13:40
BluesKajNicekiwi, is it an application or a folder?13:42
NicekiwiBluesKaj: an application13:42
BluesKajopen the system monitor in the kmenu>apps>system , then find the app , and right click , send signal , kill13:45
BluesKajNicekiwi,^13:45
NicekiwiBluesKaj: the app is not listed13:45
NicekiwiBluesKaj: my bad, it is13:45
NicekiwiBluesKaj: but its wont allow itself to be killed13:46
BluesKajtry terminate instead of kill13:47
NicekiwiBluesKaj: none of them work13:47
NicekiwiBluesKaj: using the kill command from konsole dosnt work either13:50
JoitBluesKaj:  it was my firewall at the windows machine what did block it13:50
Joitproblem solved when i set it to low13:50
BluesKajNicekiwi, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/stop-process-ubuntu-linux-command/13:51
BluesKajI don't like the kill command ..it's caused me problems in the past13:52
NicekiwiBluesKaj: none of those work13:53
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NicekiwiBluesKaj: hmmm the proccess seemed to the controlled or blocked by another proccess called 'watchdog' :/13:55
NicekiwiKilled that and the window finally closed13:55
BluesKaj!watchdog13:56
BluesKajNicekiwi, I don't have anything else to tell you except , reboot , sometimes it's only thing that work , if the app insists on this behviour then find a substitute and uninstall the bad app13:57
BluesKajguard dog ?13:57
NicekiwiBluesKaj: hmm its a game.. not really an option. Least I know howto kill it now. No one really has had an answer for this so far13:57
Nicekiwithere is no app installed called watchdog, but that was the name of the proccess so.. yeah13:58
BluesKajNicekiwi, are you running this game in wine ?13:59
NicekiwiBluesKaj: nope13:59
Joithttp://askubuntu.com/questions/134899/watchdog-0-process-using-all-my-cpu-suddenly14:00
Nicekiwiweird...14:01
Joit!das-watchdog14:01
Nicekiwioh well, thanks for your helps14:01
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BluesKaj!info watchdog14:12
ubottuwatchdog (source: watchdog): System health checker that also trigger kernel watchdogs. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.11-1 (precise), package size 70 kB, installed size 217 kB14:12
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone14:15
Joithello phoenix14:18
BluesKajBBL.... stuff to for a couple of hrs14:36
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phoenix_firebrdhello everyone15:56
phoenix_firebrdJoit:  hello15:56
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Guest94160hi, I need some help to recover a system that  does not get to prompt (not even in text mode) after an update. I am using kubuntu 12.04, I installed the ati drivers by downloading them from their website. all good till I did apt-update/upgrade.  I saw among the rest there was a new version of xorg. I already deleted xorg.conf and fglrx.ko. tried to boot in text mode no joy. I always  end up with a dark screen. Anyone has any time/knowledge to help me out?17:37
thecaptain2000hi, I need some help to recover a system that  does not get to prompt (not even in text mode) after an update. I am using kubuntu 12.04, I installed the ati drivers by downloading them from their website. all good till I did apt-update/upgrade.  I saw among the rest there was a new version of xorg. I already deleted xorg.conf and fglrx.ko. tried to boot in text mode no joy. I always  end up with a dark screen. Anyone has any time/knowledge to help me17:40
thecaptain2000out?17:40
AlexZionthecaptain2000: did you already try in recovery mode ?17:42
thecaptain2000AlexZion: the recovery mode puts me to a text prompt with some options that do not apply to my situation, there used to be , there, a "repair X" or something but I did not find it17:43
thecaptain2000if, from there, I try to go to root prompt, I am left with a readonly filesystem so I can't touch anything17:44
AlexZionwhy you can't touch anything ?, you should as a root17:44
thecaptain2000because if you go to the root prompt you are left with a readonly filesystem17:45
thecaptain2000I currently  on kde having booted from a cdrom and mounted the filesystem, so I have access to it, but I am running short of ideas17:45
AlexZionok , so the only way it should be to use a live system and chroot the installed one ....17:46
AlexZionhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/ChrootRecovery17:46
AlexZionmaybe thisone is better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery17:49
thecaptain2000tx I am having a look at it now17:53
AlexZionyou're welcome ....17:54
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pnh7Hi, how can I do deb packaging of a qt application? can you give me some tutorial link?18:17
phoenix_firebrdpnh7: google about check install and cmake18:19
pnh7phoenix_firebrd: okay... I know cmake, will explore check install...18:21
phoenix_firebrdpnh7: if you are able to do install with "make install", the checkinstall will easily build the deb18:22
thecaptain2000AlexZion: managed to get it baclk18:22
thecaptain2000*back18:22
thecaptain2000t18:22
thecaptain2000x18:22
pnh7phoenix_firebrd: i see... i already have CMakeLists.txt file and I can install it using make install.. will explore checkinstall.. thanks a lot. :)18:23
phoenix_firebrdpnh7: no18:24
phoenix_firebrdpnh7: ok , try something18:24
AlexZionperfect thecaptain2000, I'm happy about that ....18:34
thecaptain2000tx agaain18:35
AlexZionyou're welcome thecaptain2000 ;)18:38
Daskreechthecaptain2000: :-)18:53
thecaptain2000Daskreech: ?18:54
Daskreechthecaptain2000: Problem solved!18:55
Daskreech:)18:55
thecaptain2000Daskreech: yuip, and it was a nasty one, I hadn't touched that stuf for a while, it is amazed how much it has chnaged....18:56
Daskreechthecaptain2000: Yeah I forget sometimes how drastic change is in the Linux World.18:58
thecaptain2000btw, since solutions... drive you into new problems. I am gaving problems with ati drivers (fglrx) used together with visual effects. when resizing a window, more often than not, part of the resized window has a  black bloc covering what it should be displaying18:59
thecaptain2000I had uised the radeon driver for wuite some time but.... fglrx is actually way faster when runnnnning win apps in wine. any tips to get sround it?18:59
thecaptain2000*around it19:00
DaskreechMaybe ask in #kwin ?19:01
thecaptain2000is there a #kwin? omg, I have left this place alone for too long :)19:04
DaskreechIf you think of it there probably is a # for it19:06
kiana# toronto19:20
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BarkingFishGuys, quick question for you. Is it possible to set the refresh rate of your monitor to be higher than KResize&Rotate says you can go?20:21
BarkingFishMine only goes up to 75.1Hz, I need to set it above 85Hz or it's gonna be no good to me20:22
BarkingFishThe monitor supports up to 90Hz, the graphics card is happy up to 100Hz20:22
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kianahelloa21:46
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c_smithwould the Ubuntu Software Center (including purchases) work on Kubuntu 12.04?22:04
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Daskreechc_smith: Yes22:47
DaskreechJust install it22:47
c_smithalright. thanks.22:47
iharpHow can I find out if 12.04 supports an ATI radeon 9200 SE without running a live cd or installing it to my hard drive?23:16
iharpI'm on a another computer so lspci -nn | grep VGA won't work.23:17
Daskreechiharp: Google?23:44
Daskreechiharp: What kind of support are you looking for?23:44

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