[00:01] <jagginess> luciousjr, that's good
[00:02] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix some heating problem with 12.04?
[00:02] <jagginess> luciousjr, did you try gimp? it has that preference setting to try extended input devices (from the wiki page i posted)
[00:02] <luciousjr> jagginess, i'll try that
[00:05] <nishanth> anyone having over heating issues with 12.04?
[00:05] <bekks> nishanth: Nope, me not.
[00:06] <nishanth> well i am having over heating issues with 12.04 , is there any fix for this?
[00:06] <jagginess> nishanth, well 12.04 is kinda hot i have to admit..
[00:06] <jagginess> nishanth, hot and wow :)
[00:07] <nishanth> jagginess well personally i think it is kind of stupid that it has issues with sandy bridge architecture
[00:07] <luciousjr> jagginess, it shows my device and I set it to screen and 3. but it still does not work
[00:08] <luciousjr> jagginess, something changed down the line. might be a victim of update breakage.
[00:09] <nishanth> anyone know if there is a way to downgrade to 10>04
[00:09] <nishanth> 10.04
[00:10] <bekks> nishanth: No, besides a reinstall.
[00:11] <YangYin> hey i have recently installed xl2tp ppp openswan and followed the tutorial to setup an L2TP/Ipsec VPN on my local server. When i run xl2tpd -D or look at the auth logs for xl2tp i dont see any attempts at a connection despite the attempted connections... this is all within the local network. Anyone have an idea as to why i dont even see connection attempts?
[00:11] <nishanth> back to windows i guess
[00:12] <jagginess> luciousjr, I may be taking a light jab at this, but I believe you should be trying either 1 type of test or the other-- the evtest means you don't use the X's wacom driver..  (for eg: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Evtest ) -- someone else reported that their wacom intuous 2 is problematic, but this is a couple moonths back-- http://sourceforge.net/tracker/in
[00:12] <jagginess> dex.php?func=detail&aid=3462347&group_id=69596&atid=525124 ) -- if i were u i'd try to upgrade with apt-get upgrade and see if anything improves
[00:13] <jagginess> luciousjr, my wildest guess is that the evdev or X's wacom driver are fighting.. just a guess (you may want to see if this is an issue)
[00:16] <luciousjr> jagginess, interesting theory. I'll look into the evdev thing. Thanks for the suggestions
[00:18] <nishanth> #downgrade
[00:19] <nishanth> anyone know how to down grade
[00:19] <nishanth> ?
[00:21] <dax> nishanth: from one version of Ubuntu to an earlier one?
[00:21] <nishanth> dax,  yes to 10.04
[00:21] <dax> nishanth: We don't support that.
[00:22] <nishanth> dax, any idea if there is some channel where i could get some help with this? my computer has been having overheating issues ever since 12.04 upgrade
[00:23] <dax> nishanth: I don't know of anywhere that will help you downgrade to 10.04, no. It's likely to break your computer, and thus we don't do so here.
[00:23] <nishanth> dax, thanks
[00:23] <dax> You're better off fixing your overheating problems, though I'm not able to help with that since I don't have a laptop.
[00:24] <systest> Can anyone point me to a doc explaining the difference between the qemu-system-i386 and qemu-i386 binaries in 12.04?
[00:28] <jagginess> systest, apt-cache show <packagename> shows description of package
[00:30] <Laice> lo all, having some trouble with my gps device
[00:30] <systest> jagginess, tks, so does "dpkg -p <packagename>", but they're both in that package :-)
[00:31] <systest> man pages don't explain the difference, neither does "<binaryname> -h"
[00:31] <systest> i.e. they're both in qemu-kvm
[00:31] <Anxi80> hello all, I encountered a sever error today which displayed a black screen with a stack dump. Looked like wireless driver. Was the dump written to a file on disk somewhere?
[00:31] <Laice> essentially i can start the gps device with 'sudo gpsd /dev/ttyACM0' but it doesnt seem to be acquiring a locatoin
[00:42] <sarsaeol> what is more ligthweight… dovecot or cyrus?
[00:48] <moocows> ok, i have a question, how does one go about making ubuntu respect the poerbutton for a graceful shutdown
[00:48] <moocows> the case is Ubuntu LTSP Server 12.04 running as a VM in a QEMU/KVM setup
[00:51] <moocows> I have confirmed that system_poweroff command to the QEMU monitor does indeed send an ACPI power button event by running the live distro of freebsd and issuing the command, it properly responded by shutting down gracefully
[00:51] <moocows> *not exactly live distro, but booted off the cd to a terminal, issued the command, and it shut down
[00:51] <jagginess> moocows, qemu runnin on ubuntu?
[00:52] <moocows> no
[00:52] <moocows> ubuntu running *in* qemu
[00:52] <jagginess> moocows, lol.., this is #ubuntu
[00:52] <moocows> yes
[00:52] <moocows> ubuntu is the issue here
[00:52] <jagginess> moocows, uh huh.. but the majority people here are running ubuntu natively..
[00:52] <moocows> its the only vm that does not respect the ACPI power off command
[00:53] <OerHeks> moocows, all you need is acpid > http://askubuntu.com/questions/72888/how-can-i-enable-the-power-button-on-my-server
[00:53] <moocows> no, its in and running
[00:53] <jagginess> moocows, maybe ubuntu is loading a module allowing it to do what its doing
[00:53] <moocows> does not correct the issue
[00:54] <moocows> acpi support seems to be in the kernel (dmesg | grep -i acpi)
[00:55] <OerHeks> see answer 1 in that url.
[00:55] <moocows> acpid is installed and running, along with acpi-support
[00:56] <OerHeks> logically it is a qemu issue.
[00:57] <moocows> heh, you know, i went there too, but I have confirmed that other distros behave correcty
[00:57] <moocows> *correctly
[00:59] <pngk> Ubuntu 12.04 does not recognize my graphics card (ATI X300SE). I installed the proprietary drivers from the AMD website and my computer rebooted in low-graphics mode. I do not know what to do. There is something in the X server logs about incompatibe module versions.
[01:00] <jthan> pngk: Did you check out the forums / askubuntu?
[01:00] <c0deMaster> i'm dropping icmp-type 0 and  8  but still can ping
[01:01] <pngk> jthan: yes
[01:01] <melkor> pngk: are you using the default kernel?
[01:01] <pngk> melkor: I think so. I did an automatic install from USB disk (32 bits)
[01:02] <moocows> I've even looked at the /etc/acpi directory and all the proper scripts seem to be there; however watching dmesg it never mentions anything about an ACPI event, even though its been confirmed that the event is being issued
[01:02] <melkor> pngk: ATI sounds old ... it is possible it doesn't work with the latest kernel.
[01:02] <jagginess> cant you configure qemu to prevent this? maybe pass something to the kernel bootline
[01:03] <jthan> pngk: Yeah. Not turning up much as I dig around here..
[01:03] <moocows> im not trying to *prevent* anything, I'm trying to make it actually recognize it
[01:03] <melkor> pngk: There is an #ati channel too, which I beleive is for linux + ati/amd
[01:03] <pngk> melkor: thanks, I'll report it there as well.
[01:03] <moocows> the event is sent and ubuntu is ignoring it
[01:04] <pngk> melkor, jthan : The exact message is "RADEONDRIGetVersion failedbecause of a version mismatch. This chipset requires a kernel module version of 1.17.0 but the kernel reports a version of 2.12.0. Make sure your module is loaded prior to starting X, and that this driver was built with support for KMS."
[01:06] <jthan> pngk: Yeah, it seems your kernel is too new for the module which you are  trying to use.
[01:07] <melkor> pngk: you can get a kernel from ubuntu mainline, maybe 2.6.XXX.
[01:08] <nishttal2> hi all.. i am trying to make a VPN connection to my office but no love.. windows virtual machine on the same computer is able to connect..
[01:08] <nishttal2> any ideas what could be wrong?
[01:08] <melkor> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[01:08] <pngk> jthan, melkor : Does the following seem sensible ? The title of the ATI channel indicates Catalyst does not support my X300SE. How can I 1) go back to my previous configuration 2) use the open source drivers ? (I believe they were not in use, considering how slow Ubuntu was behaving and that it said my graphics card was "Unknown")
[01:09] <moocows> is there an ubuntu dev channel or something?
[01:10] <ckrailo> my google-fu is failing me here. anybody know of a command-line PDF validator that i can run on my server to check if a PDF file isn't fubar (aka will open in Preview or Adobe Acrobat or whatever)?
[01:10] <melkor> pngk: apt-get remove xorg-video- (then press tab a few times you should see some options) one of them will be fglrx.
[01:11] <melkor> ckrailo: did you check ghostscript?
[01:11] <cihhan> Hi all! Does anybody know if I can use Virt-Manager without any GUI?
[01:11] <melkor> pngk: also there are older versions of catalyst that might support your card.
[01:11] <ckrailo> nope, ill google that now :)
[01:11] <moocows> anyone? ubuntu devs? anyone?
[01:11] <moocows> yes its called libvirt, use virsh
[01:11] <escott> ckrailo, what about pdfinfo. maybe it will validate
[01:12] <moocows> cihhan: that was @ u
[01:12] <jthan> moocows: I think there is - just search for it
[01:12] <ckrailo> i'll look for that too :)
[01:12] <melkor> moocows: did you try #ubuntu-dev
[01:12] <pngk> melkor: is it possible that the open-source drivers were not enabled after the install of ubuntu?
[01:12] <cihhan> moocows: thanks a lot =)
[01:12] <moocows> ha no, i didn't does such an animal exist?
[01:12] <melkor> pngk: possible, you can try installing them. are you using a package manager?
[01:12] <pngk> melkor: apt-get?
[01:13] <ckrailo> oooo, i bet pdfinfo could work nicely for me
[01:13] <melkor> pngk: the drivers are called radeon, I cannot remember all of the files though.
[01:13] <ckrailo> much thanks escott :)
[01:13] <moocows> cihhan: np, been writing my own scripts around qemu though, the whole libvirt thing was lost on me, It reminded me too much of xen
[01:13] <moocows> qemu is *really* flexible through the cli
[01:13] <cihhan> moocows: unfortunately, i m new to virtualization domain
[01:14] <moocows> well KVM is the right way to go
[01:14] <cihhan> so im trying to learn and make a system run in the lab
[01:14] <moocows> unless you at some point want to pay someone that is :)
[01:14] <cihhan> have you every used openstack?
[01:14] <moocows> my company isn't big on that lol
[01:14] <moocows> nah
[01:14] <pngk> melkor: thanks a lot. I'll try and get back to you.
[01:14] <cihhan> im just a student :)
[01:15] <moocows> ran vmware....briefly lol, then XenServer.......really nice I must say but that lst me at no memory over commit without a license
[01:15] <recon_lap> moocows: you should leave some news papers around the office with the RBS story
[01:15] <moocows> RBS?
[01:15] <moocows> KVM + KSM is the shit, not to mention it does migration and all that noise too
[01:16] <recon_lap> moocows: royal bank of scotland, IT system meltdown.
[01:16] <moocows> heh, for best results: build it from scratch, hooray Gentoo :)
[01:16] <ckrailo> escott: where can i find the source for it?
[01:16] <jthan> moocows: +1
[01:16] <abimael> how can i start contributing to ubuntu? i see all these developers fixing and submitting bugs in launchpad, how can i start contributing code?
[01:16] <escott> !info poppler-utils | ckrailo i think its here
[01:17] <ckrailo> gracias
[01:17] <moocows> recon_lap: jus curious, what happened? brief version?
[01:18] <IdleOne> moocows: your enthusiasm is great but please keep the language clean in here :)
[01:18] <recon_lap> moocows: no idea really, it's a bank, upgrade went wrong, looking at 3 weeks to fix all accounts, but off topic
[01:19] <moocows> IdleOne: sorry :) didn't realize I offended
[01:19] <moocows> recon_lap: it is, what is relevance, just curious? open source infrastructure?
[01:20] <melkor> moocows: What do you actually want?
[01:20] <melkor> moocows: sorry I just back scrolled to you asking about a dev channel.
[01:21] <jaake> hey, quick question, anyone have success with those at&t (or other major service provider) usb 3g dongles? Can't find much on the forums which leads me to believe it may work ootb
[01:21] <jaake> I was thinking of getting one for my neice but was just trying to do a little research first
[01:22] <moocows> heh just to know why other distro's / BSD will respond the the acpi event issued by qemu with the monitor command "system_powerdown" (supposed to be same as hitting power button) but ubuntu 12.04 will not (with acpid, acpi-support, and even a package called acpi)
[01:22] <psusi> jaake, I just use my android phone
[01:22] <pngk> melkor: OK, I think I'm now using the open soruce driver (Gallium 0.4). However it is extremely slow. Is that expected with a card like X300SE? Or is something wrong?
[01:22] <compdoc> moocows, its easy to get 12.04 to shutdown on power button
[01:22] <melkor> moocows: you could go to launchpad and file a bug, or see if other people have filed the same bug.
[01:22] <jaake> right, as do I. I am unfamiliar with those dongles however
[01:23] <moocows> melkor: yeah, time crunched though.......unfortunately
[01:23] <melkor> pngk: It might be expected, I don't know of all the features that card supports.
[01:23]  * psusi wonders what maketing doofus started calling them dongles... they aren't dongles, they are modems
[01:23] <jaake> compdoc, xbindkeys yea?
[01:23] <jaake> :P
[01:23] <moocows> compdoc: wish that was true, it simply doesnt respond, and yes it has been confirmed that qemu is actually issuing the event
[01:23] <compdoc> no, I had to edit the powerbutton.sh script
[01:24] <moocows> compdoc: do tell
[01:24] <jaake> psusi, lol, okay then modems
[01:24] <compdoc> let me find the url
[01:25] <psusi> dongles are those damned annoying things some companies use for copy protection... used to be something you plugged into a serial or parallel port but now they are usb... I hate those things
[01:25] <chimney> hey, trying to apt-get php5-sqlite --> perl: warning: Setting locale failed
[01:26] <chimney> chimney: what should I do? got this now the third time … something is broken in 12.04
[01:26] <moocows> psusi: i've heard everything from those old laptop cards that had an external "dongle" to provide rj11/rj45 called dongles, to what you referred to, to really anything the "dongles" from your machine
[01:26] <moocows> mine has balls
[01:26] <melkor> moocows: is the powerbutton disabled?
[01:27] <moocows> well as far as I know no, I have done nothing to disable it
[01:27] <moocows> melkor:
[01:27] <compdoc> moocows, jaake, edit   /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh  to delete all but one line:   sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now "Power button pressed"
[01:27] <melkor> moocows: it might be disabled by default for a server.
[01:27] <compdoc> dont know why, but all that code in there does not work
[01:28] <moocows> well it was an alternate install, its a LTSP server
[01:28] <psusi> moocows, true... those were dongles too... part of it was that the thing was nearly useless and annoying...
[01:28] <moocows> not so much a server, but a desktop virtualization server, that yes I have virtualized in KVM, got to love that :)
[01:29] <moocows> psusi: i agree lol
[01:29] <moocows> compdoc: checking....... go go comments
[01:30] <melkor> did you check the man pages? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man4/acpi.4freebsd.html
[01:30] <compdoc> someone should trace the code and see what prevents the shutdown, but removing the code works too
[01:30]  * psusi starts counting the years since he last used a dial up modem and starts to feel old
[01:31] <moocows> melkor: no not yet actually
[01:31] <chimney> ok, get locale set error, help
[01:31] <moocows> compdoc: well holy shi.....stuff!
[01:32] <compdoc> heh
[01:32] <moocows> i've been repremanded one lol
[01:32] <moocows> *once
[01:32] <compdoc> I like being able to press the power button on my headless servers
[01:33] <compdoc> and qemu-kvm now waits till the guests shutdown when the button is pressed
[01:33] <moocows> i like being able to 'printf "system_poweroff" | nc -U /run/qemu/<vmname>.mon' :)
[01:33] <compdoc> didnt used to
[01:34] <moocows> really! that would make me most happy to not have to call sleep after issuing the above
[01:34] <compdoc> the guests need to shutdown gracefully when asked
[01:34] <compdoc> or it will timeout
[01:34] <moocows> yes, yes they do, they are guests after all, its not *their* house
[01:34] <compdoc> and shut down anyway
[01:35] <mm_> rover000000077
[01:36] <compdoc> kvm issuing a shutdown to the guests is new
[01:37] <moocows> compdoc: not that new I dont believe
[01:38] <moocows> now I'm pretty sure if you issue "stop" or "quit" it does no such thing :)
[01:38] <Zylek> i've asked this in mozilla & thunderbird channels but the people there are not helping. they're just redirecting or complaining "why do that?" ...so hopefully someone in here can help....
[01:38] <Zylek> does anybody know how to remove the "-- " in the auto-signature feature in mozilla thunderbird?
[01:38] <moocows> but "system_powerdown" if just for that purpose
[01:38] <szal> Zylek: the "-- " is the signature separator
[01:39] <home> for some reason, I cant burn dvd's on ubuntu
[01:39] <Zylek> yes i know what it is.
[01:39] <Zylek> i am just asking
[01:39] <home> using braser
[01:39] <Zylek> how to remove it from auto-sig
[01:39] <Zylek> that's all
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Zylek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <home> "please replace te disc with a supported CD or DVD
[01:39] <moocows> home: have you tried with another burner?
[01:39] <home> like>
[01:40] <moocows> im talking hardware
[01:40] <moocows> or does it work in another distro
[01:40] <home> it works on Windows
[01:40] <moocows> I've seen writers do that if their lasers are getting weak
[01:40] <moocows> ah ok
[01:40] <fritzophrenic> Hi, my unity-greeter is NOT showing user-specific wallpaper, and I want it to. I found a few pages about turning it OFF, so I checked the value of draw-user-backgrounds with gsettings, but it's already true. Why might lightdm not be showing user-specific wallpaper?
[01:40] <fritzophrenic> see http://askubuntu.com/questions/101115/is-there-a-way-to-shut-off-showing-the-users-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[01:42] <moocows> home: try cdrecord and see what it says
[01:42] <moocows> use -v for verbose
[01:42] <Zylek> anybody know how to remove "-- " in auto-sig?
[01:43] <home> let me be more specific: Ubuntu is not detecting my cd drive at all
[01:44] <moocows> aha, I see
[01:44] <moocows> ls -l /dev/sr*
[01:44] <moocows> whats it say?
[01:44] <Ben_> Is it possible to install netbook edition with wubi?
[01:45] <home> wow
[01:45] <home> it wasnt even connected
[01:45] <moocows> teehee
[01:46] <visslik> I just put Ubuntu (or more specifically XBMCbuntu) on a Zotac Zbox nano and it was working fine as I poked around and tested, until I found out the internal CIR wasn't working. Poking around I saw something about editing the hardware.conf to fix it. However it seems any time I try to get into the box from outside (either sftp or http) the networking on the device drops.
[01:46] <OerHeks> Ben_, there is no seperate netbookedition anymore, use the regular ubuntu iso
[01:46] <Ben_> Would xubuntu run good on a slow netbook?
[01:46] <Zylek> okay i'm leaving this channel.
[01:46] <Zylek> no help here b'bye
[01:46] <Ben_> OerHeks,
[01:47] <sarsaeol> Ben_: in my opinion yes, xubuntu is good for lite installations
[01:47] <moocows> Ben_: Gentoo will run amazing on anything :)
[01:47] <visslik> Outbound network connectivity never seems to have been affected; only when I try to access the box from another machine does connection drop (pings timing out, etc)
[01:47] <Ben_> Thanks
[01:47] <OerHeks> xubuntu * lubuntu will run fine
[01:47] <sarsaeol> Ben_: you may also want to look at lubuntu
[01:47] <sarsaeol> er what OerHeks said :-/
[01:47] <Ben_> I've used both
[01:47] <OerHeks> moocows gentoo advise not needed, thankx
[01:47] <Ben_> Xubuntu seems to be more useful
[01:47] <moocows> if you feel comfortable customizing a distro......I've ran it on 900MHz athlons that did just fine :)
[01:48] <moocows> OerHeks: just the best fit for slow machines
[01:48] <OerHeks> drop it moocows
[01:48] <moocows> unless there are ubuntu distros customized for your processor and hardware
[01:49] <visslik> scratch that, it looks like it is just randomly dropping on its own; I can just force it by trying to access a network service.
[01:50] <moocows> OerHeks: It'd be neat to do! I'd be game for lending my cluster as a compile farm for the project
[01:51] <moocows> haha no support on that one though ;) anyone that used an image like that would have to be on their own :)
[01:51] <OerHeks> if you want to build up your own installation from scratch, use the minimal iso
[01:51] <moocows> except you dont get to set your build CFLAGS :) thats where the magic happens
[01:52] <ultrixx> why are there so many sound servers/systems on linux? alsa, oss, pulsaudio etc. and which one is the most modern/best?
[01:52] <moocows> but it would be neat to rebuild the whole distro for the like.......14 different archs commonly used now
[01:53] <moocows> except getting the processor cache settings right might be a bit of a bear (for the end user....building is easy :)
[01:55] <moocows> shoot, might be able to even get a script up that would chose for the user and download the distro on the fly
[01:56] <ultrixx> moocows: or you can just use gentoo ;-)
[01:56] <moocows> I got hated on for saying that :)
[01:56] <moocows> I was just offering a jointly amicable solution
[01:56] <moocows> I'm not anti ubuntu, i'm pro speed :)
[01:59] <ultrixx> i know gentoo, have installed it on my intel atom netbook and it works fine. on my workstation however i prefer ubuntu, because it is very comfortable to work with and to update
[02:00] <moocows> heh on all the machines I run......it seems as though all I look at all day long is konsole :)
[02:00] <moocows> or firefox......links is just hard to use sometimes on today's web :P
[02:01] <moocows> so as far as comfortable goes.....lol does it have a good terminal? :)
[02:01] <ultrixx> too few "optimized for lynx/links" websites
[02:01] <ultrixx> sure
[02:02] <moocows> yeah something about people not using the console to browse the web much......anymore
[02:02] <moocows> dont know why that stopped
[02:02] <xiamx> is there a way to disable framebuffer or anysort of non-fallback console video driver? My Lucid console blink and is very unusable
[02:03] <moocows> rm -r /lib/modules/..........no wait dont do that
[02:03] <moocows> actually im not even sure if that would be the correct location in ubuntu
[02:03] <moocows> but either way dont do it
[02:03] <recon_lap> ASCII art was not sex enough
[02:04] <recon_lap> sexy enough*
[02:04] <moocows> xiamx: you'd want to blacklist any framebuffer drivers for your card
[02:04] <moocows> ........or just all of em :)
[02:04] <moocows> or theres always rm -r......that would stop if from loading :)
[02:04] <xiamx> moocows, how do i do that?
[02:05] <moocows> hmm........any of the more ubuntu savy guys want to tell him where the file is, I cant remember
[02:05] <xiamx> the issue now is that when i go to recover mode,console output was first good, then after some second, screen blink and it seems that a new vid driver is loaded and become unsuable
[02:05] <moocows> hmm output of lsmod?
[02:06] <moocows> (if i was being unclear, run "lsmod" and tell me what it says)
[02:06] <xiamx> i'd love to do that if i could read anything from that screen ...
[02:07] <xiamx> it's just a pain to look at it
[02:08] <xiamx> what is it called, the thing, that provide smooth transition from boot screen to lightdm/gdm screen?
[02:09] <moocows> xiamx: heh "lsmod > <some_file>" read the disk with another distro
[02:09] <xiamx> i think that is the one bugging me
[02:09] <xiamx> moocows, will do that
[02:11] <bwayne>  hi.  i'm wanting to automatically download and begin torrenting the latest releases (alphas, betas, not dailies) of quantal.  i think I can do this through RSS from within uTorrent.  I'm trying to find a link to such an RSS feed.  is there one for Quantal?
[02:12] <xiamx> ah it's called kms
[02:12] <melkor> bwayne: you can also check #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <bwayne> melkor, i asked there first.  no one responded.
[02:14] <moocows> yes yes, kms....but is that a module?
[02:14] <enkari> Hey guys
[02:14] <moocows> i may sound stupid there, i just usually include everything into my kernel
[02:14] <enkari> Anyone know about forcing display resolutions?
[02:15] <melkor> enkari: such as with xrandr?
[02:15] <enkari> Well I'm really new to linux, so I haven't a clue to what that is
[02:16] <melkor> enkari: if you want to change your resolution it is in system settings->displays
[02:16] <bwayne> ah ... looks like there's a brainstorm for it but doesn't appear to have traction ->  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/27717/
[02:17] <enkari> Yeah I've looked there, but it doesn't show my max resolution
[02:17] <melkor> enkari: what video card are you using?
[02:17] <enkari> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
[02:18] <enkari> nvidia-settings shows that it can go up to 1360x768
[02:18] <enkari> Yet on Windows 7 I use 1920x1200
[02:19] <melkor> enkari: you can type xrandr from the command line, and it will show you all the options available to x
[02:19] <cookie> I think there are packages missing from python and I need help figuring out what...When I enter items = ['a'. True. 7] I get File "<stdin>", line 1 and an arrow pointing to true
[02:19] <melkor> enkari: I suspect you need to update your nvidia driver, but I don't use nvidia.
[02:19] <enkari> Well I've switched to the stable recommended driver and to the experimental one
[02:20] <melkor> cookie: what you typed wouldn't work on python.
[02:20] <enkari> and they make no difference
[02:20] <enkari> now as for xrandr
[02:20] <cookie> melkor: the tutorial book my class is providing told me to use that. What is wrong about it?
[02:20] <enkari> It says the maximum is 1360x768
[02:20] <tamara_> so i just installed ubuntu on an old laptop, it has a BCM4311 wireless card, i installed firmware-b43-installer, and its now listed on additional drivers. But when i click on network symbol on top, i dont see wireless connections
[02:20] <melkor> cookie: does . separate lists?
[02:21] <Grant_P> Hi All,
[02:21] <cookie> ahhhh
[02:21] <cookie> melkor: I should use ,
[02:21] <cookie> melkor: thanks
[02:21] <melkor> cookie: I think so, unless it is a locale issue where comma's and periods are switched.
[02:21] <enkari> So I can't see why it isn't showing the max resolution
[02:21] <Grant_P> Hi All, Where can i find the older iso images for 12.04? I need an older one as recent updates have broke my sound.
[02:21] <cookie> melkor: no, that was the problem xD. I put the book on my kendle so that has been an ongoing issue for me
[02:22] <melkor> enkari: In the xord.conf file you can set the size of your desktop. If that is too small then you cannot set a better resolution. I haven't done this for long time though so I doubt you need to do it.
[02:23] <enkari> Well I've tried forcing it to 1600x900 and other resolutions in xord.conf and it just distorts my display and colours
[02:23] <enkari> and gets reset to 1024x768
[02:23] <Lecram> Brand new to Ubuntu/Linux platform and having issues installing 12.04 on an old Dell desktop
[02:24] <trism> Grant_P: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ the 12.04 iso is the same as when it was released in april, until 12.04.1 comes out
[02:24] <tamara_> so i just installed ubuntu on an old laptop, it has a BCM4311 wireless card, i installed firmware-b43-installer, and its now listed on additional drivers. But when i click on network symbol on top, i dont see wireless connections
[02:24] <enkari> I might just plug in a different monitor
[02:24] <enkari> This one is too big anyway @ 32"
[02:25] <Grant_P> trism: Hrmm ok, perhaps i'll turn off the download packages while installing. I'm sure a recent install i did looked different to my original install.
[02:25] <Lecram> Says installer failed then boots environment from cd.Try to install from there but install doesn't complete.
[02:25] <enkari> Cheers anyway melkor
[02:26] <enkari> Peace
[02:26] <V3NG3NC3> Question
[02:26] <moocows> Answe
[02:26] <moocows> r
[02:26] <melkor> damn I just found a site
[02:26] <V3NG3NC3> is there a series of videos for a into to linux,.. my friend is wondering and I don't have time to teach them
[02:26] <recon_lap>  Lecram: have the cd check itself for errors
[02:26] <melkor> I was reading it and the conversation devolved into gibberish, I looked back right when enkari bailed.
[02:27] <moocows> not sure, but i'd imagine youtube has a myriad of them
[02:28] <V3NG3NC3> yea was looking fro a set really
[02:28] <Grant_P> Is there a way to take a working snapshot of your system? Updates have broken me twice now and it's hard to track down the root cause of the issue.
[02:28] <V3NG3NC3> Also,.. while I got yea all on the horn
[02:28] <V3NG3NC3> any of you use a toshiba?
[02:29] <moocows> Grant_P: ever looked at rdiff-backup ?
[02:29] <dr_willis> toshiba makes a lot of things
[02:29] <V3NG3NC3> laptops
[02:29] <escott> Grant_P, not a good way without something like btrfs
[02:29] <moocows> ZFS?
[02:29] <V3NG3NC3> need an athros chipset for PCIe. from what I hear those are tricky for them as they are not all compatable
[02:29] <dr_willis> lots od those also. my x505 ran fine
[02:29] <moocows> but that requires some......playing with things :)
[02:29] <aFeijo> hi guys, how can I use a param in my bash .sh file, like this: mysql DBS=`mysql -e"show databases like '$2%'"`
[02:30] <dr_willis> aFeijo: you may need to use a bash function not an alias
[02:30] <V3NG3NC3> brb phone pm me if you have an answer plz ,.. brb'
[02:30] <Grant_P> OK thanks guys, back to reinstalling i go, think i'll just have to be more cautious of my updates and really inspect them.
[02:31] <moocows> Grant_P: but most definitely if you have a disk to backup your system to, a simple rsync will give you a mirror to restore from, and rdiff-backup does the same thing (like uses rsync) but it allows you to store incremental backups
[02:31] <aFeijo> dr_willis, ouch ...
[02:31] <moocows> not as fast as snamshots, but very good when in a bind
[02:32] <dr_willis> !abs
[02:32] <Lecram> Any suggestions for when installer fails and loads from cd to investigate?
[02:33] <recon_lap> Lecram: instead of booting to linux, select "test CD" instead, if that fails you need new CD
[02:36] <Lecram> Thanks recon_lap. I've burned 2 disks and neither worked for install. Will try test.
[02:37] <recon_lap> Lecram: if the CD fails, check the MD5 value of the ISO you downloaded to see if it got errors before creating a new CD
[02:41] <Duality__> how to scroll up in irssi ?
[02:41] <chu> Duality__: PGUP
[02:42] <Duality__> hmm thank, i though it would be a key combination :)
[02:45] <V3NG3NC3> bakc
[02:45] <V3NG3NC3> back
[02:45] <Duality__> screen is awesome
[02:45] <Daeshon> Hey
[02:45] <V3NG3NC3> no guesses on that wificard?
[02:46] <Lecram> recon_lap: I selected 'Try Ubuntu' instead of install and the desktop environment seems to have loaded ok.
[02:47] <enkari> Yo I'm back with another dilema :P
[02:47] <enkari> Anyone know how to reset linux to make it redetect the monitor?
[02:47] <enkari> It seems to think I'm using the same monitor, yet I've just changed it
[02:48] <rigel> enkari: reboot. sometimes you have to reboot 4 or 5 times before it detects the monitor properly.
[02:49] <enkari> Ah right, I've restarted twice but I'll give it a few more in a bit
[02:49] <enkari> cheers
[02:50] <Primaris> asdf
[03:00] <user> a
[03:01] <user> a
[03:01] <moocows> b
[03:01] <moocows> b
[03:01] <user> c
[03:03] <moocows> d?
[03:03] <IdleOne> This can only go bad. Please stop the silliness
[03:07] <moocows> heh, come on programmers are a silly breed, ever read comments? or better yet, eror messages no one was supposed to see?
[03:08] <AngrySpam98> Hello
[03:10] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Hey
[03:10] <AngrySpam98> When i start Ubuntu it takes me to a black screen saying something relative to "GRUB 2 with limited bash-like line editing" and i dont know what to do to just get to ubuntu.  (Note: im running dualboot with windows 7) any help?
[03:11] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Did you use the ubuntu installer from a livecd or something of the sort?
[03:11] <jagginess> AngrySpam98, you using two drives?
[03:12] <AngrySpam98> jthan, i honestly have no idea what any of that crpa is. :P
[03:12] <jthan> lol.
[03:12] <jthan> Oh boy.
[03:12] <jthan> So - are you using two hard drives? Did you install Ubuntu with a CD?
[03:12] <AngrySpam98> I know right? <3
[03:12] <AngrySpam98> If by CD you mean a disk you insert into your computer, no.
[03:12] <jthan> Okay - how did you install then?
[03:12] <V3NG3NC3> anyone know how to look up compatibility of wifi cars in laptops?
[03:13] <jthan> V3NG3NC3: google
[03:13] <AngrySpam98> I went to the website and clicked a big button labeled "DOWNLOAD"
[03:13] <jthan> Yes, so then you had a .iso file. Which you had to burn to a disk.
[03:13] <bazhang> jthan, dont say that here
[03:13] <V3NG3NC3> duh, and I havn't found anythin
[03:13] <AngrySpam98> hmm
[03:13] <V3NG3NC3> g
[03:13] <bazhang> !google | jthan
[03:13] <AngrySpam98> jthan, i didnt HAVE to...
[03:13] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, usb or pci
[03:13] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Well chances are you did.
[03:14] <V3NG3NC3> PCIE mini half stack
[03:14] <AngrySpam98> jthan, well...define disk
[03:14] <jagginess> V3NG3NC3, you using windows? (imgburn is free, you choose 'burn image iso' sort of button .. it'll be very apparent with this app)
[03:14] <V3NG3NC3> need to see if an atheros one will work for my lappy
[03:14] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Removable medium of some sort? A compact disc? A USB thumb drive?
[03:14] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com please
[03:14] <jagginess> sorry
[03:14] <jagginess> who's asking to burn?
[03:14] <AngrySpam98> jthan, i dont have a place to put those into my computer, so chances are i did burn it to a disk?
[03:14] <V3NG3NC3> 1 sec on win now, but need to copy n paste
[03:15] <jthan> jagginess: We are trying to determine how AngrySpam98 installed Ubuntu with little luck.
[03:15] <V3NG3NC3> from lappy
[03:15] <V3NG3NC3> actually,.. I'll install xchat there
[03:15] <jagginess> oh, he has to check the checksum first..
[03:15] <jthan> AngrySpam98: did you follow an installation guide?
[03:15] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, give us the pastebin url
[03:15] <AngrySpam98> jthan ...
[03:15] <V3NG3NC3> that will work
[03:15] <V3NG3NC3> 1 sec
[03:15] <jthan> AngrySpam98: How about wubi? Does that sound like something you used?
[03:15] <AngrySpam98> jthan, i used wubi
[03:16] <jagginess> wubi sucks..
[03:16] <jthan> aha!
[03:16] <jagginess> nobodfy here uses it
[03:17] <AngrySpam98> jthan, so?
[03:17] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Hold on. Been a LONG time since I worked with wubi.
[03:17] <AngrySpam98> Alright.
[03:18] <fritzophrenic> in case anyone was around when I asked earlier, my lightdm was not showing user wallpaper because every user had specified one outside of the default wallpapers, and had read permissions set to only themselves
[03:18] <hanscom> I am on Linux Mint right now
[03:18] <fritzophrenic> I fixed it by moving wallpapers into a public folder and setting the read bit for "everyone"
[03:18] <hanscom> Okay B thanks for letting me know
[03:18] <vn-> heya, how can I set a 1080i resolution on a projector? I seem limited in resolutions...
[03:19] <jthan> AngrySpam98: So.. I found something :-) http://shakthydoss.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/fixing-wubi-ubuntu-grub-problem/
[03:19] <AngrySpam98> jthan: i'll check it out.
[03:19] <Onixs> can i just skip the "update" during server edition installtion ?
[03:20] <jthan> Onixs: I believe it asks you if you want to perform updates or not. If you're really adament about not doing them, disconnet your NIC
[03:21] <AngrySpam98> jthan: i found a typo on the site.  Are you sure its reliable? :P
[03:21] <Onixs> Ah, Ok… Thanks! :)
[03:22] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, pastebin url here, not via PM please
[03:22] <sassas123> guys, could you help me wit non-working ethernet on my notebook on ubuntu 12.04?
[03:22] <jthan> sassas123: We can try.
[03:22] <V3NG3NC3> right well, what info do you need?
[03:22] <bazhang> AngrySpam98, typo on what site
[03:22] <V3NG3NC3> there is a realtek in there now, but that's nto athros
[03:22] <V3NG3NC3> that's what I need
[03:22] <AngrySpam98> bazhang: the one that im on.
[03:22] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, the lspci info I asked for earlier, thats what info
[03:22] <jthan> AngrySpam98: It's worth a try, wouldn't you say?
[03:23] <V3NG3NC3> need model?
[03:23] <bazhang> AngrySpam98, and what website is that, praytell
[03:23] <V3NG3NC3> RTL8187SE
[03:23] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, lspci in terminal for the chipset
[03:23] <AngrySpam98> bazhang: I give you a hint: it has a 'w' in the adress
[03:23] <wantharry> Hi All, I have problem in my ubuntu , when i play music or videos , it is playing faster than normal , both video and music, what can cause this problem how to fix it??
[03:23] <bazhang> AngrySpam98, thats not helpful
[03:24] <AngrySpam98> bazhang: It was a tiny bit.  Face it.
[03:24] <jthan> bazhang: It's a wordpress blog in which someone had the same issue and has a fix with screenshots.
[03:24] <jthan> sassas123: So you plugged in your cat5 cable, and you have no internet?
[03:24] <V3NG3NC3> i just posted it
[03:24] <coon> can someone give me a hand with a printer problem i have plz
[03:25] <V3NG3NC3> Realtek semiconductor Co ltd, RTL8187SE Rev 22
[03:25] <bazhang> coon, whats the printer make and model
[03:25] <V3NG3NC3> that's what it has now
[03:25] <AngrySpam98> jthan: How do i determine my '(kernal version)' xD
[03:25] <wantharry> Hi All, I have problem in my ubuntu , when i play music or videos , it is playing faster than normal , both video and music, what can cause this problem how to fix it??
[03:25] <IdleOne> AngrySpam98: uname -a
[03:25] <coon> cannon pixma mg3122
[03:25] <AngrySpam98> Thanks IdleOne
[03:26] <V3NG3NC3> don't think you need other info then that
[03:26] <coon> i couldnt find any drivers for ubuntu anywhere
[03:26] <sassas123> jthan: yes, i plug it into and it's typing "getting network adress" after second "network cable disconnected"
[03:26] <IdleOne> coon: because Canon doesn't provide any linux drivers that i know of.
[03:27] <jthan> sassas123: Did it work before Ubuntu? If so that would most likely eliminate a hardware issue.
[03:27] <coon> do you know of any restricted drivers?
[03:27] <IdleOne> coon: nope sorry
[03:27] <coon> thanks man appriciate it
[03:28] <jthan> sassas123: Or try a different cable - same idea.
[03:28] <AngrySpam98> jthan: I cant fix it (or try this, whatever you want to say) right now, but i'll try later. :)
[03:28] <jthan> AngrySpam98: Okay - PM me if you need help and I'll try to assist you
[03:29] <V3NG3NC3> what info do you neeeed?
[03:29] <wantharry> Hey can anyone help me?
[03:29] <jthan> wantharry: What's up my friend?
[03:29] <wantharry> hey jthan,  I have problem in my ubuntu , when i play music or videos , it is playing faster than normal , both video and music, what can cause this problem how to fix it??
[03:29] <V3NG3NC3> how about telling me what I need to know to find this info myself
[03:29] <sassas123> jthan: cable is working cause i use it on my PC (Xubuntu).
[03:29] <jthan> sassas123: Okay, so the cable is working but we don't know about a different install on the same computer that is 'broken'?
[03:30] <jthan> Perhaps it could be your nic?
[03:31] <wantharry> it play like a broken tape
[03:31] <jthan> wantharry: Hm.. Give me a second.
[03:31] <sassas123> jthan: i've installed windows xp and no result. but I'm downloading official windows 7 with new drivers support
[03:31] <vn-> how can I setup my linux to have a 1080i resolution?  im stuck at 1360x768...
[03:32] <vn-> using a projector btw
[03:32] <jthan> sassas123: So we're waiting for that? If you want to try to troubleshoot in the mean time.. pastebin the output of "ifconfig" paste.ubuntu.com
[03:32] <jthan> wantharry: Is it all flash content that is moving too fast?
[03:32] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, what version of ubuntu is this
[03:33] <wantharry> yes like youtube or pandora
[03:33] <jthan> wantharry: Okay - do me a favor.  Download some kind of file and play it (something that is not flash) and see if the problem still persists.
[03:33] <moocows> peace y'all :) I've done as much work on my KVM scripts as I can handle tonight :)
[03:33] <V3NG3NC3> 10.x
[03:34] <wantharry> i can play my mp3 downloaded without problem
[03:34] <wantharry> looks like the problem is with music or videos online
[03:34] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, there's no such version.  pastebin your sources.list please
[03:34] <IdleOne> wantharry: try www.youtube.com/html5 if you are having problems with youtube
[03:34] <jthan> wantharry: Try a different browser and see if it still persists
[03:34] <wantharry> i tried all the browsers
[03:34] <V3NG3NC3> really,. what does any version of that have to do with what my bios can detect? thatw as the question or did you miss it?
[03:35] <wantharry> problem is in all the browsers
[03:35] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, is this ubuntu at all? or some other distro entirely
[03:35] <jthan> wantharry: I did find a forum post regarding people having flash issues.
[03:35] <jthan> Did you install flash from adobe or through the software center?
[03:35] <sassas123> jthan: just a minute
[03:36] <IdleOne> V3NG3NC3: the true question is why you are asking for support in an Ubuntu channel after you stated you were not running Ubuntu. So if you want help, please install Ubuntu and the helpers in here will be happy to oblige. Till then, stop wasting the valuable time of the people in here with your non supported distro.
[03:36] <wantharry> hmm i keep installing software not sure which one i have installed
[03:36] <wantharry> is there a way to check it?
[03:36] <bazhang> whats the distro IdleOne
[03:36] <IdleOne> bazhang: he won't say.
[03:36] <bazhang> ok
[03:36] <jthan> wantharry: Sure. You familiar with the terminal?
[03:37] <wantharry> yes
[03:38] <V3NG3NC3> it based on kubuntu 10 so what is the problem?
[03:38] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, whats the name
[03:38] <IdleOne> based on is not equal to
[03:38] <V3NG3NC3> if I asked a debian question in here would that not be allowed either?
[03:38] <jthan> Fire it up. Let's try "sudo dpkg -s flashplugin-nonfree" wantharry
[03:38] <bazhang> no
[03:38] <IdleOne> correct
[03:39] <L3top> RTL8170  is supported in *buntu afik.  V3NG3NC3 this is not #debian, it is #ubuntu.
[03:40] <wantharry> is saying a message Package `flashplugin-nonfree' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:40] <V3NG3NC3> yea know,.. I really don't get this ____ contest with other distro's.
[03:40] <jthan> wantharry: But you do recall installing flash?
[03:40] <itaws> can somebody explain me what does backtrack-track penetration is about ?
[03:40] <wantharry> no
[03:40] <wantharry> i dont recall anything i have installed
[03:40] <jthan> wantharry: Well then let's start there.  "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[03:40] <bazhang> itaws, try in the backtrack channel
[03:40] <IdleOne> V3NG3NC3: neither do we. They should just switch to Ubuntu and we can all be one big happy family. Until that happens (not likely) we support our stuff, they support theirs.
[03:41] <L3top> V3NG3NC3: it is not a contest. You are simply asking for support on that which we do not and most cannot support.
[03:41] <IdleOne> back to helping people who really need it :)
[03:41] <wantharry> done
[03:42] <wantharry> it installed
[03:42] <FckBEye> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADQpzPDBGI
[03:42] <jthan> wantharry: Close your web browsers, fire them back up, see how it goes.
[03:42] <FckBEye> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADQpzPDBGI
[03:42] <FloodBot1> FckBEye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:42] <itaws> thanks
[03:43] <corvaxia> So I have a rather strange question that I am probably in the wrong channel to ask. I am using emacs to relearn java. Every time I try hitting tab to leave a comment at the end of the line it doesn't move. Is there something I am doing wrong or a switch I need to flip?
[03:43] <wantharry> still the same problem ,i tried playing youtube, its running faster than normal!!
[03:43] <L3top> flashplugin-nonfree? What version are we talking about wantharry/jthan?
[03:43] <IdleOne> corvaxia: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask chu. resident emacs guru
[03:43] <jthan> L3top: He just installed flashplugin-nonfree
[03:44] <jthan> L3top: Everything that is flash-related has doublespeed video/sound
[03:44] <corvaxia> thanks
[03:44] <L3top> that does not answer my question jthan
[03:44] <jthan> L3top: What version of what, then?
[03:44] <jthan> Of Ubuntu, of flash?
[03:44] <ki4ro> is there a way to do incremental backups to a cd/dvd in ubuntu?
[03:44] <L3top> mcc@cylon:~$ apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree   Candidate: (none)
[03:44] <L3top> It is a straightforward question.
[03:45] <wantharry> apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <wantharry> Package flashplugin-nonfree is a virtual package provided by:
[03:45] <wantharry>   adobe-flashplugin 11.2.202.236-0precise1
[03:45] <wantharry>   flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.236ubuntu0.12.04
[03:46] <L3top> again... this does not answer my question.
[03:46] <jthan> What is straightforward to you is not to us, then.
[03:47] <dr_willis> i saw a weird bios bug ages ago that made flash. wine. and even the system clock tick by at about 2x normal speed.
[03:47] <wantharry> how do i check for the flashplugin-nonfree version?
[03:48] <L3top> lsb_release -c -s   @jthan
[03:48] <sassas123> jthan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079067/
[03:48] <L3top> lsb_release -c -s @wantharry
[03:48] <Chad___> ki4ro: I believe duplicity can do this.
[03:48] <wantharry> $ lsb_release -c -s
[03:48] <wantharry> precise
[03:49] <wantharry> precise is what i get
[03:49] <L3top> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:49] <L3top> no
[03:49] <ki4ro> Chad___: Is duplicity a program?
[03:50] <jthan> L3top: well that much was evident when it said it was a virtual package provided by. . .
[03:50] <L3top> This is the source of my confusion... for the two of you. No. This is not a precise package.
[03:50] <Chad___> ki4ro: Yes, but it has a command-line interface. If you're comfortable with that, go for it.
[03:50] <IdleOne> wantharry: the command: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree :should have a 3line output, Installed and Candidate. What is the output you get when running that command?
[03:51] <ki4ro> Chad___: Not really :(
[03:51] <IdleOne> L3top: I think it might have to do with it being a virtual package
[03:51] <wantharry>  apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:51] <jthan> sassas123: definitely not connected. I can't imagine your card isn't supported but how about you paste the output of lspci for me
[03:51] <wantharry> $  apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:51] <wantharry> flashplugin-nonfree:
[03:51] <wantharry>   Installed: (none)
[03:51] <wantharry>   Candidate: (none)
[03:51] <FloodBot1> wantharry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <wantharry>   Version table:
[03:51] <L3top> IdleOne: I do not understand why it is avail to both without specification, while repo holds current version. Sorry for my confusion... I am not trying to be obstinant, but understand.
[03:52] <jthan> L3top: Truthfully I try not to take on package-based issues because I don't even have Ubuntu with me right now.
[03:52] <jthan> L3top: And in addition I haven't touched precise yet.
[03:52] <cg2916> After an X window reboot and a reboot, Flash is still running too fast
[03:52] <L3top> wantharry: I would expect the package you are looking for is flashplugin-installer.
[03:52] <jthan> L3top: But the first time he ran apt-cache policy it had information about the 'virtual package'
[03:52] <sassas123> jthan: I'm installing windows 7 now and after 40 minutes I 'll have to go, so I can do that later
[03:52] <jthan> sassas123: Okay.
[03:53] <sassas123> jthan: What's your timezone?
[03:53] <ki4ro> Chad___: It has about a million options!  Whew!!
[03:53] <wantharry> $  apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:53] <wantharry> flashplugin-nonfree:
[03:53] <wantharry>   Installed: (none)
[03:53] <wantharry>   Candidate: (none)
[03:53] <wantharry>   Version table:
[03:53] <FloodBot1> wantharry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <L3top> That is all I am after. Helping user wantharry. wantharry sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:53] <sassas123> jthan: I'll be back in Monday
[03:53] <ki4ro> is there a way to do incremental backups to a cd/dvd in ubuntu with a program with a GUI?
[03:53] <jthan> sassas123: Okay - track me down. If it doesn't work in windows you can likely assume it's a hardware issue.
[03:54] <IdleOne> !backup | ki4ro
[03:54] <jthan> ki4ro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem
[03:54] <Chad___> ki4ro: Hmmm, I'm not sure if Deja Dup would suit your needs or not. As a workaround, you could back up to a folder than burn that to a DVD.
[03:54] <Celso> sommeone here that is looking to use the vgaswicheroo with intel/ati hd5000 series for hybrid swich?
[03:55] <cg2916> After an X window reboot and a reboot, Flash is still running too fast. How do I fix this?
[03:55] <Chad___> ki4ro: I don't think DVDs are an ideal backup medium.
[03:55] <ki4ro> Chad___: Thanks
[03:55] <ki4ro> Chad___: What's a good medium?
[03:55] <cg2916> I have messed with PulseAudio a lot, if that helps
[03:55] <sassas123> jthan: my internet provider said it was problem with a driver. Bit I know Ubuntu has all the drivers
[03:56] <wantharry> I run this again  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:56] <Chad___> ki4ro: I don't know very much, but maybe an external hard drive. If you don't have much data, a flash drive would be fine. At least you won't have to continue to burn DVDs.
[03:56] <wantharry> tried to open the browser and play
[03:56] <wantharry> still having the same problem
[03:56] <ki4ro> Chad___: Thanks
[03:57] <wantharry> the cpu usage is more than 40 percent whenever i am running youtube
[03:57] <Chad___> ki4ro: Then you can more easily use GUI programs that you're more comfortable with. And no problem.
[03:57] <rundmc> hi, i want to share files between about 20 computers in a school, mostly win7 and some osx. my plan is to install ubuntu server and use webmin as the gui , is that the way to go?
[03:58] <IdleOne> !webmin
[03:58] <L3top> wantharry: I just walked into seeing a package I did not recognize, being fairly well aware of flash. What is the original problem? I also tend to recommend reboots, because people forget an open download manager etc... and the browser never truly finishes shutting down etc... this should not be necessary in linux... however it is always my recommendation.
[03:59] <wantharry> ok let me restart and come back again
[04:00] <x1k> if i want to install the latest version of an application that is not yet available in the repos, should i uninstall the current installed version first then install the latest version? or can/should i just install the new .deb as is?
[04:00] <L3top> I would recommend it x1k
[04:00] <rundmc> IdleOne, ok, is there something similar that would allow me to setup and control my server remotely ?
[04:01] <L3top> depending on ITS depends. If it wants to unload 30 other pieces of software as dependencies... I tend to just overwrite.
[04:01] <L3top> x1k: ^
[04:02] <x1k> L3top: nmap doesn't have many dependencies, i don't believe... is uninstalling it first cleaner?
[04:02] <IdleOne> rundmc: secpanel - graphical user interface for SSH and SCP. I have no experience with it though.
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> hi i type ip rule flush to get rid of any rules i had made that were useless but it deleted all of them even the nessasary ones. How do restors or recreate the default ip rules?
[04:04] <rundmc> IdleOne, thanks, but it's for SSH, i really just need something similar to FreeNAS' web interface, you know?
[04:05] <L3top> x1k: yes. I would... but I live mostly in video detection... where it is crucial... however it is never a bad policy, unless it unhinges something major.
[04:05] <Laice> if you're using ubuntu just type "ssh user@host" and away you go.  If your server is on a different port it would be "ssh user@host -p 'portno'"
[04:06] <Laice> i'm currently using irssi as my irc client on a server i'm not at :P through ssh :P
[04:07] <L3top> jthan: I wasn't trying to stomp on you... it just seemed like debian advice as ubuntu has not had that nomenclature since at least 1004... and I thought it might be confusing to the end user.
[04:08] <Laice> whois MrMibbit
[04:08] <wantharry> Hey L3top looks its fixed the issue after restarting for most part..only when there is no buffering its doing the same
[04:08] <Laice> with a / that was.
[04:09] <jagginess> rundmc, samba, and use swat (http://localhost:901 << only good for administration)
[04:09] <Laice> anyone know any services that use port 8081?
[04:10] <rundmc> jagginess, thanks, googling .,....
[04:10] <jagginess> rundmc, #linux (i can tell you never used linux before)
[04:10]  * jagginess is on #linux too
[04:10] <L3top> wantharry: flash is obnoxiusly glitchy. Their last (ever) linux iteration is particularly buggy... and unfortunately there is nobody to lodge a complaint with. It is a third party closed source driver that I tend to hold conspiracy against. It will never be perfect I am afraid.
[04:11] <wantharry> thanks l3top
[04:11] <wantharry> Hey jthan thanks a lot for helping me out
[04:11] <bhavesh> I cannot load any pages in google chrome nor I could connect the Empathy but Xorg works. Same happened in windows 7 and I fixed it by changing the Speed/Duplex settings from Auto negation to 10Mbps Half duplex. How can I do so in Ubuntu?
[04:12] <bhavesh> and now everything seems to be working fine.. -.-
[04:12] <jagginess> rundmc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/
[04:12] <L3top> bhavesh: out of curiosity, can you give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:12] <jagginess> rundmc, there's also sftp with ssh, but samba would probably be better for you
[04:13] <jagginess> rundmc, (filezilla can do ssh/sftp on windows)
[04:13] <bhavesh> L3top, 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] [10de:03d0] (rev a2)
[04:13] <bhavesh> and now it does not work..
[04:13] <bhavesh> can't I change the Speed/Duplex settings in Ubuntu like I did in windows?
[04:14] <jagginess> lol.. 1 sec it works and next second it doesnt.. you sure know how to confuse people
[04:14] <rundmc> jagginess, swat looks ideal, in the wiki you suggested they say "Point your browser to http://localhost:901/" , i assume i can replace localhost with the server's IP if im using another computer?
[04:14] <L3top> 430... look forward to the 304 nvidia driver. It is gonna take a while before linux release. \
[04:14] <jagginess> bhavesh, y.. mii-tool does it temporarily, i think half-duplex can be set with the networkmanager.conf file (or maybe in the gui network panel it can be changed as well)
[04:15] <bhavesh> jagginess: ok ill try after my morning shower
[04:15] <Pinkamena_D> hi i type ip rule flush to get rid of any rules i had made that were useless but it deleted all of them even the nessasary ones. How do restors or recreate the default ip rules?
[04:15] <L3top> bhavesh: in 1204 the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is depreciated. You might try creating one so you can edit values with nvidia-xconfig
[04:16] <cg2916> After an X window reboot and a reboot, Flash is still running too fast. How do I fix this? I have messed w/ PulseAudio a lot, if that means anything.
[04:16] <jagginess> rundmc, well its not set to https:// (dunno if it can), you basically setup swat from the server machine, (if you need to do it remotely, you'll have to configure swat to listen beyond localhost) -- but again i dont know if https:// can be set
[04:16] <jagginess> cg2916, you not using gnash instead/
[04:17] <cg2916> jagginess, I could use it, I guess... will it mess anything up?
[04:17] <L3top> cg2916: is this a 64 bit install? (uname -m)
[04:17] <jagginess> cg2916, saying to be sure you really are using flash
[04:17] <cg2916> L3top, yes
[04:18] <bhavesh> L3top: ok
[04:18] <cg2916> jagginess, Yes. However, the problem also happens with java applets
[04:18] <L3top> cg2916: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:18] <jagginess> cg2916, maybe you're using a malbehaving 32-bit firefox on 64-bit ubuntu
[04:19] <cg2916> jagginess, Chrom
[04:19] <cg2916> Chrome*
[04:19] <L3top> cg2916: jagginess may be on to the root problem as it turns out
[04:19] <Laice> eeeew cross architecture *spits in conveniently placed metal bucket*
[04:19] <natolw45> join #xubuntu
[04:19] <cg2916> L3top, will post in just a sec, grep is taking forever
[04:19] <cg2916> Should it be taking this long?
[04:19] <L3top> no
[04:19] <rundmc> jagginess, the manpage says " Note  that  you  can  attach  to SWAT from any IP connected machine but connecting from  a  remote  machine  leaves  your  connection  open  to password sniffing..."
[04:20] <jagginess> cg2916, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome  - License (Proprietary)
[04:20] <L3top> cg2916: run top
[04:20] <rundmc> jagginess, so i think i will use swat then , thanks!
[04:20] <Laice> anyone used gps with ubuntu?
[04:20] <cg2916> l3top and jagginess, now, this has been fine for a while now, but it just randomly started... if that's the issue, would it still be spontaneous?
[04:21] <gitesh> Hello world!
[04:21] <cg2916> l3top, running top, what now?
[04:21] <L3top> x-swat is awesome for a lot of things... but rundmc please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:21] <Yourmom> someones been naughty in here
[04:21] <L3top> cg2916: look for anything eating up serious resources.... should be self evident
[04:21] <jagginess> L3top, i think you mean the other one
[04:21] <gitesh> I have problem in gnome-settings-daemon. how do i upgrade that?
[04:21] <L3top> jagginess: I do not understand
[04:21] <cg2916> L3top, nothing
[04:22] <Laice> whats the problem gitesh
[04:22] <rundmc> L3top, i'm on a different computer now, i intend to 1.buy a headles server  2. install ubuntu server  3. manage it remotely for file sharing (remotely in this case meaning from the same subnet)
[04:22] <jagginess> cg2916 has the vga problem (rundmc was checking out swat)
[04:22] <rundmc> right....
[04:23] <gitesh> Laice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079086/
[04:23] <Laice> ty
[04:23] <jagginess> rundmc, well there's a tricky way to do http://localhost from a separate physical machine (but this is advanced stuff called 'proxying')
[04:23] <L3top> cg2916: If  you are running forever checking lspci | grep VGA... then SOMETHING has to be heating stuff up.
[04:24] <cg2916> L3top, gimme the full command, i'll run it once more
[04:24] <L3top> cg2916: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:24] <cg2916> OH, I ran them seperately, derp
[04:24] <L3top> lol
[04:24] <L3top> yeah... that will be a problem
[04:24] <cg2916> L3top, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09)
[04:25] <Laice> gitesh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:25] <jagginess> rundmc, it's also possible to do a remote desktop, and then do http://localhost , or maybe find an elegant way to encrypt swat if you feel you need to..
[04:25] <Laice> gitesh: into a terminal
[04:25] <Laice> if that doesnt update the packages, let me know
[04:25]  * Yourmom smiles
[04:25] <gitesh> Laice: ok, Thank you. I will try.
[04:25] <L3top> my best advice cg2916 is to sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[04:25] <L3top> cg2916: ^
[04:26] <Yourmom> mmmmhm
[04:26] <cg2916> l3top, given my past experience with Linux, i hope this doesn't break my system ;)
[04:26] <rundmc> jagginess, security is really not a big issue , we are just sharing files in a subnet, the server is not even connected to the internet
[04:26] <Laice> cg2916 what could possibly go wrong! *grabs fire extinguisher*
[04:26] <rundmc> its for a school
[04:27] <ghostchick> rundmc,  sshfs or nfs?
[04:27] <Yourmom> thinks someone just got schooled
[04:27] <Laice> rundmc dont underestimate school pupils :P  I killed a server at 12 years old without being in the room :P
[04:27] <L3top> It will not cg2916. It is simply a graphics accellerator for intel GPUs. It is benign.
[04:27] <cg2916> Laice, I've sent this laptop to hades and back many times. I wiped out Windows while attemping to dual-boot, then Ubuntu wouldn't work at first
[04:27] <cg2916> L3top, I hope so... ;)
[04:27] <rundmc> Laice, it's a big kindergarten.,.,.,,i still feel safe
[04:27] <jagginess> lol
[04:27] <L3top> cg2916: I would not tell you it was something I was unsure of.
[04:27] <Laice> rundmc sounds like a challenge :D
[04:27] <cg2916> L3TOP, Thank you
[04:28] <cg2916> l3top, should i restart browser, xorg, comp or anything after install?
[04:28] <L3top> cg2916: I recommend a reboot to fully utilize the frame buffer.
[04:28] <Laice> Agreed
[04:28] <jagginess> cg2916, you wiped out windows? lol. good one! I hope you backed up your data!
[04:28] <cg2916> l3top, can i try w/o?
[04:28] <L3top> Yes
[04:28] <cg2916> jagginess, not really
[04:28] <adren> hello
[04:28] <Laice> jagginess i don't want to sound anti-windoze but i don't tihnk there's anything in it worth backing up :P
[04:28] <cg2916> jagginess, i almost wiped out linux as well... i'm just an idiot who never learns from mistakes
[04:28] <Laice> think*
[04:29] <adren> pictures?
[04:29] <rundmc> ok, thank you all for your advice, have a nice day (/night)
[04:29] <adren> music :D
[04:29] <jagginess> cg2916, dunno how you could of done that.. you sure must of done the setup phase fast.. nways..
[04:29] <cg2916> l3top, OMG it worked! Thank you!
[04:29]  * Yourmom sneaks around the room with a club
[04:29] <cg2916> jagginess, if you have time, it's quite the story
[04:30] <cg2916> l3top, thank you so much!
[04:30] <L3top> If I had written it, I would love the credit. I have become an Intel fanboy recently after a long love affair with nVidia.
[04:30] <adren> does ubuntu iso come with syslinux?
[04:31] <Laice> it's very easy to screw up the boot device.  My desktop grub currently thinks i have 3 different copies of windows installed even though i only have 1, but as i know which devices are real i dare not change them haha
[04:31] <cg2916> l3top, have you seen what linus torvalds said to nvidia?
[04:31] <adren> "fuk u nvidia"
[04:32] <L3top> their OS drivers, are written to handle abstraction on a much more pure relationship than the "other" manufacturers. And yes... but... Linus gets testy when not given the keys to the palace... I do not base this on his opinion.
[04:32] <cg2916> l3top, on a different note, do you know any good and SIMPLE emulators? Qemu didn't work and Virtualbox almost broke my system
[04:33] <jagginess> cg2916, emulators?
[04:33] <cg2916> jagginess, as in Virtualbox
[04:33] <jagginess> cg2916, you have to be specific what you're trying to emulate
[04:33] <cg2916> Tiny Core
[04:33] <cg2916> Linux
[04:33] <ghostchick> cg2916, kvm  ?
[04:33] <Yourmom> emulators,.. unless you have the know how to rip the game you already own, we do not condone stealing here
[04:34] <cg2916> Not video games
[04:34] <cg2916> Linux
[04:34] <cg2916> Just to clarify
[04:34] <L3top> cg2916 means virtual machines... as you know jag... and virtualbox works lovely on everything I use... but... I give it room to do so.
[04:34] <cg2916> ghostchick, i guess
[04:34] <cg2916> Virtual machine, WHY on earth that didn't come to mind is beyond me
[04:35] <jagginess> cg2916, your processor should have a VT-like feature which supports vm's performance, otherwise emulation sucks..
[04:35] <L3top> kvm is a favorite among many... but keep in mind that there is a problem with vesa drivers on kvm, and those should be forced to use the fbdev driver
[04:35] <cg2916> l3top, will kvm almost break me like vbox?
[04:36] <L3top> Nothing should break your host environment cg2916.
[04:36] <cg2916> l3top, well, that's linux for ya
[04:36] <L3top> If you crash running a specific vm... that is one thing
[04:36] <jagginess> cg2916, what gets broked?
[04:36] <ghostchick> cg2916,  What happpened then ;
[04:36] <L3top> but the host itself should not be affected
[04:37] <jagginess> cg2916, the vm stalls?
[04:37] <cg2916> jagginess and ghostchick, got*... i seem to have forced the memory away, but... oh yeah, broke my apt
[04:37] <cg2916> thanks to the kernel module not being installed
[04:38] <ghostchick> cg2916,  virtualbox broke  apt?
[04:38] <jagginess> cg2916, if you get stalls, you may want to force using the VM in plain mode (meaning not choosing what the target OS is-- the performance would be less fast but more stable)
[04:38] <cg2916> jagginess, i uninstalled it and feel like avoiding it like the plague
[04:39] <fifa> df -h  df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: Input/output error
[04:39] <cg2916> It was the glitch where it was like "Wrong port"
[04:39] <Yourmom> has virtual box gotten any better in the last few years?
[04:39] <cg2916> SPICE port!
[04:39] <cg2916> That was it
[04:39] <jagginess> cg2916, you should look above (you should be using a processor with a VT feature if you do x86 emulation)
[04:40] <roansh> Guys, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my Samsung NP300 laptop. Fn + F1-F8 key combinations worked before as expected. i.e. for brightness, volume, etc. Now, the function keys alone work for brightness, volume.. But, the won't work when used to switch to 1-6 virtual terminals..
[04:40] <fifa> my filesystem not behaving properly ,i can't mount my HDD
[04:40] <cg2916> jagginess... hmm... don't know how to find that out... i was going to emulate it so i could learn to program for the kernel without programming on my MAIN kernel, which is sorta why windows got wiped in the first place... geez, i'm an idiot
[04:41] <cg2916> I don't even accomplish my original goal
[04:41] <roansh> s/the/they
[04:41] <gitesh> what should be a installation directory(to install Abode reader)? Sorry guys(in advanced), i am quite new to this.
[04:41] <Yourmom> opt
[04:41] <roansh> also, Alt + F4 won't work
[04:42] <Yourmom> most after distro programs go in opt
[04:42] <Yourmom> tise where you should install Firefox or whathave you
[04:42] <Yourmom> for example ;)
[04:42] <jagginess> gitesh, reader is in the thirdparty repos, run the 'Software upgrade' app and turn on 'Third party' partners, (you can also enable universe/multiverse), then try to install adobe reader (which is in i386 only, meaning alot of files would be needed if you use 64-bit already)
[04:43] <jagginess> gitesh, apt-get update, then, apt-get install acroread (or do it from synaptic/ubuntu software center)
[04:44] <cody__> hey guys i'm trying to get mine craft lol having a lot of difficulties can anyone help
[04:45] <Laice> gitesh did those commands i sent your earlier solve your problem?
[04:46] <cody__> does anyone know how to get mine craft nothing seems to work for me
[04:46] <cansranma> I have dual boot with ubuntu and windows xp (ubuntu has never worked) but today my computer has been powering down randomly, also extremely slower than usual. I performed virus checks and everything checked out ok. When I try to boot up after it post i get the message " Error: Unknown file system Grub rescue > ......
[04:46] <cansranma> I dont know what to do
[04:46] <Laice> cody__ have you downloaded the .jar from minecraft.net
[04:46] <cansranma> ive been researching it online but nothing has helped
[04:46] <cansranma> what is grub rescue >
[04:47] <Laice> and are we talking server or client
[04:47] <cody__> yes
[04:47] <cody__> client
[04:47] <cansranma> hey is grub rescue something to do with ubuntu?
[04:48] <Laice> one sec ironically i was just setting up my minecraft server again and have to set the client up :) just going to run through it myself then tell you how i did it
[04:49] <cg2916> l3top, problem not solved
[04:49] <cody__> okay thanks
[04:49] <L3top> cg2916: please restate original problem
[04:49] <ghostchick> cansranma,  grub was the bootloader used by ubuntu and it means there is a problem with the grub installation
[04:49] <cg2916> l3top, flash too fast
[04:50] <cansranma> ok
[04:50]  * PURE grins
[04:50] <cansranma> well i cant even get into windows or ubuntu
[04:50] <cansranma> right after it post it says this
[04:50] <cansranma> what hsould i do?
[04:51] <cg2916> l3top, ok, on chrome, it's way too fast, on firefox, it's too slow... hmm
[04:51] <PURE> 64bit nightly is pretty good
[04:51] <ghostchick> cg2916,  in chrome check in chrome;//plugins which flash is running
[04:51] <L3top> cg2916: chrome right... oh... I see
[04:51] <Laice> cody__ just installing openjdk-7-jre and it's 100MBb on my 2MB/S line so it mate be a few :S
[04:51] <PURE> FF64 bit for nightly
[04:52] <cody__> is that in the software center
[04:52] <PURE> FF64?
[04:52] <Laice> make sure you chmod +x the minecraft.jar
[04:52] <cody__> okay will do
[04:52] <Laice> should be yes search for openjdk
[04:52] <cody__> okay
[04:52] <PURE> I got FF64 right from their site
[04:52] <cg2916> ghostchick, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079112/
[04:52] <PURE> works great
[04:52] <L3top> cg2916: I would onlyy expect it slow in firefox if you still had chrome open doing doubletime, even in buffer
[04:53] <Laice> i don't like sun java as a preferance but thats because i used to run a minecraft server and sunjava generally sucks these days compared to open
[04:53] <L3top> cg2916: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141692/youtube-movies-are-playing-too-fast-with-chrome
[04:53] <cody__> how would i get the java your downloading?
[04:54] <bob__> dont mean to funk the flow of the convo, but has anyone gotten ubuntu to run on the nexus 7 tablet
[04:54] <PURE> How do you play mine craft?
[04:54] <cg2916> l3top, nope
[04:54] <PURE> Like,.. I seen it before but where do you get it?
[04:54] <cody__> minecraft.net
[04:54] <cody__> xD
[04:54] <L3top> cg2916: I do not understand that answer to the link I gave you.
[04:54] <cg2916> l3top, that doesn't fix the problem
[04:55] <PURE> like what is the object of it? ussually I just see people running around a screen
[04:55] <cody__> laice: how would i get the java your downloading im not very good with the terminal
[04:55] <L3top> cg2916: you COULDN'T have rebooted... and I doubt you reloaded. Jes sayin.
[04:55] <cg2916> l3top... pretty much... should i reboot?
[04:57] <cansranma> what should i do?
[04:57] <cansranma> will someone help it says ERror: unkown file system grub rescue >
[04:57] <cansranma> cant get into the desktop on windows xp or ubuntu
[04:57] <cg2916> l3top, i'm gonna take that as a yes
[04:58] <L3top> cg2916: I don't know how people handle their OS/windows... so I always tell people to reboot. It probably won't fix your specific issue... and people yell at me... but I like a fresh boot before I burn an answer.
[04:58] <cg2916> l3top, i won't yell, i'll reboot... fingers crossed!
[04:58] <cansranma> any help is appreciated?
[04:58] <cansranma> its a problem with ubuntu
[04:58] <osmosis> if I am listening to pandora, is there any way for me to get cool  visualizations going on ubuntu?
[04:59] <Laice> cody__ "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre"
[04:59] <L3top> cansranma: first of all, do not use the enter key as punctuation... secondly... it sounds like grub is hosed... do you have a live cd you can boot to?
[04:59] <cody__> ty
[05:00] <cansranma> i have a ubuntu cd
[05:00] <cody__> how to i go to the download directory in termianl
[05:00] <cody__> terminal
[05:00] <Abhijit> cansranma, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930610
[05:00] <cansranma> l3top, i have the ubuntu cd i used to install it
[05:01] <Laice> cody__ to explain that command to you, "sudo" says run this at root permissions (kind of like an administrator) "apt-get" is a package manager (like the ubuntu software centre) install tells apt-get to install (obviously) and "openjdk-7-jre" is the package we're looking to install
[05:01] <Laice> cody__ "cd ~/Downloads"
[05:01] <cody__> ty again
[05:01] <cansranma> what is grub?
[05:01] <L3top> osmosis: this is, for whatever reason... holy grailish on ubu. try apt-cache show synaesthesia
[05:02] <cg2916> l3top, thank you, it's working at least for now
[05:02] <Abhijit> !grub | cansranma
[05:02] <osmosis> L3top, i just installed  projectm-pulseaudio   and I am absolutely amazed
[05:02] <osmosis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-howto-install-projectm-audio-visualizer.html
[05:02] <Laice> cody__ "cd" stands for change directory, and you can use "~" instead of typing /home/yourusernamegoeshere to make life easier.  Remember that commands in the temrinal are CaSe SeNsItIvE!!!
[05:02] <osmosis> http://projectm.sourceforge.net/
[05:03] <cody__> thanks for helping me laice
[05:03] <cansranma> no i installed windows first
[05:03] <Laice> cody__ you can send the cheque in the post :P
[05:03] <L3top> ty osmosis. I have built a couple of terrible virtualizers for my given project... but they are just vector madness. hopefully these will give me some direction.
[05:03] <bhavesh> L3top, and how am I supposed to change Speed/Duplex settings using nvidia-xconfig?
[05:03] <cody__> what?
[05:04] <L3top> no bhavesh
[05:04] <Laice> cody__ dont worry i'm kidding :P
[05:04] <cody__> oh xD i opened minecraft with java and got a black screen after it downloaded
[05:04] <cody__> the files it needed
[05:05] <Laice> ah
[05:05] <Laice> lol
[05:05] <cody__> what do now
[05:05] <Laice> cody__ what you can do is right click on the minecraft.jar in your downloads folder and select open with -> OpenJDK JRE 7
[05:06] <fritzophrenic> I installed Eclipse from the SW center, where might I find the "Eclipse Home Directory"?
[05:06] <bhavesh> cody__ MC works fine without black screen with OpenJDK 6 and not 7
[05:06] <Laice> sometimes you have to give permissions for the file by right clicking on it and going into the properties and checking "Allow Execution"
[05:06] <L3top> bhavesh: cat /etc/apt/xorg.conf to check settings you need to know...  however I sent you there to realign your audio, not reinstall it. please pastebin sudo lshw -c audio
[05:06] <rinzler> Does anyone know of a tool to find out why chrome is taking an inordinate chunk of my CPU bandwidth?
[05:06] <Laice> Cody__ really mine's running in OpenJDK7 right now, but no problem if you've found a solution that works for you!
[05:06] <L3top> but I am fading fast kids...
[05:07] <cansranma> i have no idea
[05:07] <cody__> im trying xD
[05:07] <cansranma> right now its stuck at a black screen with the )_ flashing
[05:07] <cansranma> i tried inserting the ubuntu cd
[05:07]  * Laice doses L3top 's caffeine drip up a notch
[05:07] <cansranma> and booting
[05:07] <cansranma> wtf
[05:07] <cansranma> :(
[05:08] <ghostchick> rinzler,  look at the chrome urls
[05:09] <rinzler> ghostchick: ok, what about them?
[05:09] <bearphat> I am sorry i did not think that posting a link for fellow gnomies to come hang was spamming
[05:09] <cody__> im uninstalling jdk and trying the code you gave me
[05:09] <cansranma> ok now it's trying to boot from the cd but the screen is black with the dash flashing
[05:09] <anony> blabla
[05:09] <ghostchick> rinzler,  the chrome pages , there is some tools for checking cpu/mem consommation and co
[05:09] <cansranma> the ubuntu cd
[05:10] <cansranma> its stuck at a black screen with a flashing
[05:10] <rinzler> ghostchick: like, in chrome?
[05:10] <cansranma> cd rom lights arent on
[05:10] <zzz> what is matter?
[05:11] <cansranma> I had dual boot with windows xp and ubuntu but for some reason computer shutdown when i tried to boot up i got the error message " error: unknown file system grub rescue"
[05:12] <zzz> oh
[05:12] <zzz> how do you install?
[05:13] <cody__> laice when you said chmod +x
[05:13] <Shano_56> cansranma, you will probably need recovery disc
[05:13] <cody__> did you mean chmod a+x?
[05:14] <jhesketh> Howdy. So on a live CD I notice that ubiquity is launched using an upstart config starting on when lightdm starts. So how does lightdm know to let ubiquity to act as the display manager until it has quit? (ie lightdm doesn't do the auto-login into unity until ubiquity has exited)
[05:15] <Laice> cody__ chmod +x minecraft.jar
[05:15] <cody__> oaky
[05:15] <cody__> okay
[05:15] <jhesketh_> (sorry, if anybody replied, x-chat inconveniently died)
[05:15] <OU812> I know the feeling
[05:15] <Laice> cody__ or you can right click on the file and click properties and check it on the permissions tab, it's just the permissions to execute
[05:15] <cody__> laice the jdk 6 fixed the problem
[05:15] <Laice> irssi for the win :) cody__ good stuff
[05:16] <cody__> but thanks for all the help xD
[05:17] <Kinter> hello
[05:24] <Laice> had an error with ATI drivers refering to jockey.log, any ideas?
[05:26] <joelperez> can i reformat from the liveboot desktop?
[05:27] <ghostchick> joelperez,  you mean reformat you harddrive?
[05:27] <joelperez> yes
[05:28] <joelperez> i cant reinstall ubuntu :[
[05:28] <rinzler> joelperez: that's an option in the live disk installer
[05:29] <cansranma> here's the error message when i try to boot into ubuntu
[05:29] <cansranma> http://imagebin.org/219813
[05:30] <cansranma> sorry about the quality i took it with smartphone
[05:30] <cansranma> says the disk contains an unclean file syetem
[05:30] <joelperez> rinzler....where!
[05:31] <cansranma> "the file system wasn't safely closed on windows, fixing, *checking battery stats...
[05:31] <cansranma> and you see the rest
[05:31] <cansranma> http://imagebin.org/219813
[05:31] <cansranma> error
[05:31] <FloodBot1> cansranma: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <cansranma> sorry
[05:31] <joelperez> FloodBot1 is so rude
[05:32] <adren> cansranma: is this grub-legacy?
[05:32] <rinzler> joelperez: boot to the install disk, start the install process, and it'll walk you through installing your system. If you choose the right install options, it'll completely reformat your HD, and install Ubuntu for you.
[05:33] <joelperez> rinzler, it doesn't do that anymore :(
[05:34] <cansranma> no icant type into the command prompt either :(
[05:34] <rinzler> joelperez: it doesn't do what anymore?
[05:34] <cansranma> http://imagebin.org/219814
[05:34] <cansranma> check this out
[05:34] <joelperez> it doesnt want to install ubuntu
[05:35] <joelperez> it just freezes
[05:35] <cansranma> it says failed to set mode on [CRTC:6] whats this?
[05:35] <rinzler> joelperez: is this before or after you boot to the disk?
[05:35] <joelperez> after
[05:36] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:37] <rinzler> joelperez: have you tried the alternate installer? it does just an install and doesn't mess with loading the entire GUI.
[05:37] <dr_willis> weird that it used to Work
[05:37] <rinzler> dr_willis: is that for joel?
[05:37] <adren> cansranma: have you try nomodeset?
[05:37] <adren> cansranma: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=92394
[05:37] <rinzler> dr_willis: nevermind
[05:38] <adren> I'm kinda sad to see not a lot of support going on here in ubuntu during the night hours
[05:38] <fifa> : (
[05:38] <adren> then again it is the holiday
[05:39] <dr_willis> its only 2 am.. on a sat night in the usa. ;)
[05:39] <rinzler> Fri night
[05:39] <dr_willis> its daytime in.. err.. somewhere
[05:39] <rinzler> austrailia?
[05:41] <randomDude> how does one work out which exact version of gnome-shell they have?
[05:43] <randomDude> also extensions.gnome.org no longer lets me install extensions in google chrome
[05:43] <adren> randomDude: I think it's apt-get -V package-name , though I don't use ubuntu , you can try it , or man page apt-get.
[05:43] <adren> I think it's time I try ubuntu
[05:43] <cansranma> well i tried to bootup with ubuntu live cd
[05:44] <dr_willis> try firefox randomDude ?
[05:44] <cansranma> and its at a black screen with a dash mark flashing
[05:44] <cansranma> i think its stuck beca
[05:44] <randomDude> adren: dpkg -l gnome-shell
[05:44] <cansranma> any help is appreciated
[05:44] <cansranma> yeah when i enter
[05:44] <cansranma> the ubuntu cd then try to bootup the textmode cursor is just blinking
[05:44] <cansranma> and there is a black screen
[05:44] <cansranma> ?
[05:44] <randomDude> dr_willis: i would except starting up firefox instead of google chrome is like logging out of ubuntu to restart into windows
[05:45] <cansranma> i meant the underscore
[05:45] <dr_willis> !nomoseset  | cansranma
[05:45] <adren> cansranma: have you try the nomodeset in the kernel line?
[05:45] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:46] <cansranma> adren, i havent tried because i cant type
[05:46] <cansranma> the underscore is flashing at the top left
[05:46] <cansranma> and has been doing it for the past 30 min
[05:46] <rinzler> cansranma: how far into the boot process does your computer get before it gets stuck?
[05:47] <cansranma> it only does this when i try to boot with ubuntu cd
[05:47] <cansranma> right after it posts
[05:47] <cansranma> it goes straight to this screen
[05:47] <cansranma> anyway to unisntall it inside windows
[05:47] <cansranma> then reinstall or should i try to bootup
[05:47] <cansranma> then install over it
[05:47] <fifa> HELP ME 1 Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/Lex
[05:48] <cansranma> !nomodeset
[05:48] <rinzler> cansranma: can you tell if you get past your BIOS before it gets stuck?
[05:48] <cansranma> yeah i can get past my bios
[05:50] <rinzler> cansranma: have you tried again. I know it might be a silly question, but it wasn't clear from what you said.
[05:50] <cansranma> why should i go into the BIOS?
[05:50] <cansranma> which part?
[05:50] <cansranma> sure i can get into the bios but i have to press f1
[05:50] <rinzler> cansranma: from powered off.
[05:50] <DWSR> What command can I use from bash that will show me what drives are connected to the computer and how much space they have available on them? I'm talking physical drives, not block devices.
[05:50] <cansranma> form powered off?
[05:50] <ghostchick> anyone knows how to make the grub appear at the boot time
[05:50] <cansranma> im lost
[05:51] <dax> ghostchick: hold down either shift or ctrl, I forget which
[05:51] <rachelrachel> How come flash freezes my whole browser for a few seconds and messes with my webcams which aren't even running in a browser?
[05:51] <cansranma> yeah i have no idea
[05:51] <ghostchick> cansranma,  then you can hold down either shift or ctrl , til l
[05:51] <adren> cansranma: restart, go back to grub again, press E, to edit your kernel line
[05:52] <cansranma> wheres the grub
[05:52] <cansranma> also
[05:52] <cansranma> when you boot up ubuntu you know how it gives you three different options to select?
[05:52] <cansranma> one is winxp
[05:52] <cansranma> i cant eedit anything adren :( did you see the screen shot
[05:52] <cansranma> no underscore
[05:53] <adren> my mistake, I shoudn't try to help if I don't use ubuntu in the first place.
[05:54] <adren> the other method I can think of is chroot into your / , change the kernel line from there.
[05:54] <rinzler> cansranma:  have you tried rebooting?
[05:55] <ghostchick>  adren, i agree as for the chroot , but to work with a chroot , he needs the livecd(the system is he trying to repair is on the hd)
[05:56] <rinzler> I'm gonna stop now, I don't think I'm helping at all :P
[05:56] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know of a chatroom on irc for texas instruments graphing calculators?  i know this is off-topic but they ARE based on linux, so i figured i'd ask...
[05:56] <anony> hello
[05:57] <cansranma> should i go into recovery mode?
[05:57] <bazhang> !alis | linux_is_my_hero search using this
[05:57] <anony> are you know this font?
[05:57] <anony> http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/mithru.png
[05:57] <cansranma> ok im in the recovery menu now whwat?
[05:58] <bazhang> anony, for irssi?
[05:58] <anony> yes
[05:58] <bazhang> anony, whats the real question
[05:59] <dmp450> hey, if nobody is logged into my computer I can't seem to ssh into the computer unless someone is logged into the machine? Would anyone know why this would be?
[05:59] <linux_is_my_hero> ssh is something i tell my gf when she talks too much
[05:59] <vox> dmp450: that doesnt make much sense
[06:00] <anony> name of font in the picture?
[06:00] <dmp450> vox, I know. I'm thinking of it differently than I'm describing it. if my desktop is at the ubuntu login screen, and I try to ssh into the machine, it doesn't let me
[06:00] <adren> anony: could be , Consolas, Inconsolata, liberation mono, monofur , ttf-monofur
[06:00] <bazhang> !behelpful | linux_is_my_hero
[06:01] <dmp450> but if I use the machine and actually log in as a user it will let me ssh into the machine after
[06:01] <anony> oh, thank adren
[06:01] <anony> i will try
[06:01] <vox> dmp450: that doesnt make any sense either
[06:01] <bazhang> anony, you could also ask in #irssi
[06:01] <vox> dmp450: what error do you get?
[06:01] <dr_willis> dmp450: wired or wirelesses  networking?
[06:01] <adren> anony: i can't tell if that's truetype, bitmap, or sans-serif, but you can try all the fonts listed on the web :) http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
[06:01] <dmp450> vox, hold on, I'll disconnect and come back.
[06:02] <dmp450> dr_willis, wired
[06:02] <dr_willis> that kills my idea.;)
[06:02] <DWSR> How can I figure out the size of a disk from bash?
[06:02] <anony> thank a lot adren! :-)
[06:02] <ghostchick> DWSR,  fdisk -l?
[06:02] <dr_willis> DWSR: sudo fdisk -l
[06:03] <dmp450> vox, it says connect failed: EHOSTUNREACH
[06:04] <dmp450> no route to host. I don't recall changing anything. just noticed this when I logged in, but it seems my internet connection to my PC doesn't connect until I log on
[06:04] <dr_willis> dmp450: login via the console on the server. not x as a test. see if it works
[06:05] <DWSR> gdr
[06:05] <dmp450> dmp450, console?
[06:05] <dr_willis> dmp450: dies ping also fail?
[06:05] <DWSR> dr_willis: I'm using gpt,
[06:05] <DWSR> dr_willis: But parted answered my question well enough.
[06:05] <DWSR> Thanks!
[06:05] <dr_willis> alt ctrl f1   console
[06:05] <dmp450> why am I messaging myself? dr_willis console? ping fails
[06:05] <arashb> hey guys, in ubuntu 12.04 is the "sudo apt-get install grub-efi" command still neccesary?
[06:05] <dr_willis> networking is down  it seems
[06:06] <arashb> if i want efi boot that is
[06:06] <dmp450> dr_willis, yeah, and it doesn't seem to be up until I log in through gdm
[06:06] <dr_willis> dmp450: whish is why i said try the console login. not  x.
[06:07] <dmp450> dr_willis, on the machine itself? or on my ssh client?
[06:07] <dr_willis> alt ctrl f1   to get to the  console
[06:07] <dr_willis> on the server...
[06:07] <dmp450> dr_willis, will I have to log out of tty7?
[06:08] <dr_willis> no need to logout.
[06:08] <dr_willis> tty7 is still lightdm login screen. or did you login?
[06:09] <arashb> is there a separate apple ubuntu irc?
[06:10] <dmp450> dr_willis, when I logged into tty1 and I tried to ctrl alt f7 to get back and talk to you it just had a black screen and said sabnzbd was starting
[06:11] <dmp450> so I restarted gdm and had to re-log in. something weird is going on
[06:11] <dwakar> it seems that you can't watch video in vlc and youtube at the same time. The sound in one of them is muted. or is it just me?
[06:11] <dr_willis> there are console irc clients also.
[06:12] <dmp450> dr_willis, okay, I'll grab one of those, log into tty1 then come back?
[06:12] <dr_willis> dwakar:  i got my browser set so i watch youtube vudeos in vlc. :)
[06:12] <cansranma> i was able to upgrade in recovery mode and im at the dekstop
[06:12] <cansranma> now it says says sorry ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error
[06:12] <cansranma> how do i change the owner to soemthing different
[06:13] <cansranma> this is my first time using ubuntu
[06:13] <dr_willis> dmp450:  a dirty fix could be to restart networking from /etc/rc.local
[06:13] <dwakar> dr_wills so that's the only workaround
[06:13] <dmp450> dr_willis, so just sudo /etc/rc.local restart?
[06:14] <elliot__> hi all
[06:14] <cansranma> how do i open a terminal in ubuntu/
[06:14] <dr_willis> what owner?
[06:14] <cansranma> the username when u log in is owner
[06:14] <dr_willis> i hit alt. then type  term    it shows up
[06:14] <cansranma> when i got to user accounts
[06:15] <dr_willis> add a new user. is my advice dont mess with the first made user.
[06:15] <dwakar> dr_willis how to watch youtube videos with vlc?
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> bazhang: may i pm you?  i have a question.  i am confused.
[06:16] <cansranma> I hit alt and the tools drop down menu popped up
[06:17] <cansranma> it says bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in g-assertion_message()
[06:18] <dr_willis> dwakar: a firefox extension called flashreplacer
[06:18] <dwakar> dr_willis thanks
[06:19] <dr_willis> dwakar: bookmarked at delicious.com/dr_willis
[06:20] <dr_willis> cansranma:  thats weird
[06:20] <dmp450> okay, I can't get into tty7 now
[06:20] <DWSR> I have a parted process that's just hanging. Kill -9 doesn't get rid of it. What do?
[06:20] <DWSR> nevermind
[06:22] <dr_willis> try tty6 and 8 and 9 ?
[06:23] <dmp450> dr_willis, you are a genius. tty8 works. you still think restarting networking would do it?
[06:23] <dmp450> and why would it switch from always being tty7 to now being tty8?
[06:24] <dr_willis> its a possible work around
[06:24] <dr_willis> x is on tty8 for some reason.
[06:24] <dr_willis> 7 was in use
[06:25] <dmp450> weird. I have always had it on tty7. tty7 shows startup type stuff and just ends off with checking battery status
[06:25] <cansranma> weird got an error message after i booted up and selected ubuntu
[06:25] <cansranma> minitor lost the signal and then
[06:25] <cansranma> one sec heres the pic
[06:26] <dmp450> dr_willis, so would I just sudo /etc/rc.local restart then? is that how that would work?
[06:27] <dr_willis> rc.local is a file you edit...
[06:27] <dmp450> dr_willis, so how would I restart networking from there?
[06:27] <dr_willis> its the last thing ran on a normal bootup
[06:28] <dr_willis> service networking restart     perhaps
[06:29] <dr_willis> i cant imagine what the user login is doing to mess with networking
[06:30] <adren> !source
[06:30] <dmp450> dr_willis, I did do one thing. Ubuntu notified me of a kernel upgrade, so I did that. I don't know if this is when the issue started isnce I haven't had to ssh into here for a while
[06:31] <dr_willis> you could check the network settings i guess. may be its somehow under user control
[06:32] <arshb> any mac users with 12.04 here?
[06:32] <meadhikari> hello all, how to find which in dev/? is the input stream from the mic? please help
[06:32] <dmp450> dr_willis, where would I edit the startup daemons? Would that be in the rc.local?
[06:33] <dr_willis> rc.local is just a catch all script
[06:33] <dmp450> because I'm wondering if it isn't starting network until after I log in maybe?
[06:33] <dmp450> ah, I see. Is there an equivalent to /etc/rc.conf like in arch?
[06:33] <ghostchick> dmp450, sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[06:33] <dr_willis> thats why i said check the network manager settings.
[06:34] <dr_willis> wired should not need a user login.
[06:34] <ghostchick> dmp450,  sadly no equivalent in debian based systems as far as i know
[06:35] <cody__> hey everyone im trying to get this program multimc but it needs a requirement called mono can anyone help with this
[06:35] <dr_willis> !mono
[06:35] <dmp450> where would I find the network manager settings?
[06:36] <dr_willis> it should be in the repos cody
[06:36] <Asad2005> i have liferea rss running but minimized but not in unity panel and alt tap dnt see it i think it has to do with all tray in gnome classic how can i maximize it from cli?
[06:36] <dr_willis> dmp450:  network manager icon on the top right panel on desktop
[06:37] <dmp450> dr_willis, yeah, it says it should connect automatically :/
[06:40] <dmp450> I'm going to try a reboot here
[06:41] <cansranma> hey cool chick
[06:42] <cansranma> sorry battery shutdown
[06:42] <overdose>  /server irc.efnet.org
[06:44] <cansranma> what do you press to get windowed screens in ubuntu?
[06:44] <cansranma> splits screens...
[06:45] <dmp450> dr_willis, restarted and things worked fine :S
[06:48] <meadhikari> what would be the device for the micrphone input stream? dev/?
[06:52] <zien> hello
[06:52] <hydrox24> hi!
[06:53] <hydrox24> do you need help with  anything?
[06:53] <arshb> i need help with EFI booting x[ if anyone has experience with it
[06:53] <nibbier> meadhikari, /dev/snd/something
[06:53] <hydrox24> !ask | arshb
[06:53] <heyuxiang> hello, when i run apt-get update, it said: GPG error  ............. because the public key is not available,
[06:54] <zien> Here are the Chinese?
[06:54] <hydrox24> heyuxiang: I would recommend googling for the specific repo and trying to add the key manually.
[06:54] <Guest86384> hi
[06:54] <zien> 这里有中国人吗
[06:54] <hydrox24> zien: try #ubuntu-ch
[06:54] <zien> 请问  有会说中文的吗？
[06:55] <nibbier> !cn
[06:55] <hydrox24> zien: try #ubuntu-cn
[06:55] <Guest86384> im new to backtrack
[06:55] <hydrox24> sorry, it's cn
[06:55] <Guest86384> i need guidlines to get started
[06:55] <hydrox24> Guest86384: shouldn
[06:55] <arshb> alright well i was following every guide online and everywhere says to do "sudo get-apt install grub-efi" but it not longer exists, i've converted the drive to EFI but I can't load Linux without a boot file for redit to see
[06:55] <nibbier> Guest86384, this is ubuntu support, try #backtrack
[06:55] <hydrox24> Guest86384: shouldn't have said that. We don't support BackTrack users here.
[06:55] <cansranma> how do i check HD space in ubuntu in the file system?
[06:56] <nibbier> cansranma, df -h
[06:56] <adren> you don't need backtrack to use backtrack software, it's gnu free. :)
[06:56] <hydrox24> cansranma: try using the df -h command
[06:56] <cansranma> type that in the terminal?
[06:56] <nibbier> cansranma, sure
[06:57] <cansranma> is there a guide somewhere? and how do i get to it or a list of commands
[06:57] <cansranma> this is my first time using ubuntu and i dont know all the commands yet
[06:57] <cansranma> i need to get accustomed to it like a chart to see
[06:57] <heyuxiang> hydrox24: ok, thanks, solved
[06:57] <hydrox24> that's fine.
[06:57] <nibbier> cansranma, http://fosswire.com/post/2007/08/unixlinux-command-cheat-sheet/
[06:57] <hydrox24> cansranma: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:57] <zien> try  #ubuntu-cn
[06:58] <hydrox24> cansranma: at any rate, just hit ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal
[06:58] <zien> try #ubuntu-ch
[06:58] <nibbier> zien, whats up?
[06:58] <cansranma> thanks nibbler
[06:58] <magpie> gaelfx how do i register my nickname?
[06:58] <cansranma> nibbier
[06:59] <cansranma> it satys
[06:59] <zien> Can input Chinese ?
[06:59] <cansranma> bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()
[07:00] <imacake> Hi.
[07:00] <nibbier> !cn | zien
[07:00] <magpie> !register
[07:00] <zien> !cn
[07:00] <magpie> !ping
[07:01] <cansranma> bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message() says fixed released
[07:01] <cansranma> gnome-bugs
[07:01] <imacake> I have ubuntu 12.04 on a macbook. somewhen the networking stopped working. neither wireless nor cable.
[07:01] <imacake> :o halp
[07:01] <cansranma> how do i get into gnome control center?
[07:01] <nibbier> imacake, you tried rebooting? what is the output of "ip addr show"?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> imacake: can you see errors on /var/logs?
[07:02] <imacake> i tried reinstalling the broadcom driver. didnt work.
[07:02] <zien> who  can speek chinese?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> zien:only english here
[07:02] <nibbier> zien: the people in #ubuntu-cn can. here is english support, go to one of the chinese speking channels advertised to you before please
[07:03] <zien> My English is very poor !
[07:03] <nibbier>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:04] <imacake> nibbier: lo, eth0, eth1 :o
[07:04] <imacake> out of which eth1 looks legit
[07:04] <zien> where are you ?
[07:04] <nibbier> imacake, so can you ping your default gateway?
[07:05] <zien> I am chinese
[07:05] <zien> Where are you ?
[07:05] <nibbier> imacake, try: ip r l
[07:05] <zien> I like ubuntu very much
[07:06] <imacake> nibbier: no output. the command just executes (`sudo ip r l`)
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | zien
[07:06] <nibbier> imacake, that means you dont have a route set, i guess you get your ip configuration via DHCP from a home router/dsl router?
[07:08] <imacake> nibbier: yep. avarage home network, no datacenter sadly =)
[07:09] <ghostchick> A stupid question here, does anyone knows of a system to accelerate cp/mv transfers  like axel?
[07:09] <nibbier> imacake, do you have other computers that work with this network/router? i'd focus on wired connection first, its easier than wifi. try to ping your default gateway, try "sudo ip route add default via <ip of your router>" to fix this.....
[07:10] <nibbier> ghostchick, mv should be almost instant if executed on the same filesystem
[07:10] <imacake> ghostchick: the move can become done and effective before the content has even been moved/copied...
[07:11] <nibbier> ghostchick, and i dont know "axel" anyway
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> ghostchick: speed also depends on the harddisk, buy an SSD drive for very fast transfers
[07:12] <imacake> nibbier: i have 3 more systems and a phone hanging on the network.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !info axel
[07:12] <ghostchick> well i need to move huge amounts of gbs from one partition to another  , so i was wondering
[07:12] <nibbier> ghostchick, no, these tricks that download accelerators use are not available or necessary when you operate on local file systems
[07:13] <nibbier> ghostchick, yet i'd suggest you use rsync, especially when moving stuff over wan links
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> ghostchick: clone drive software might be very fast aswell
[07:13] <nibbier> lotuspsychje, should hardly be faster than a cp, but way less flexible
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> nibbier: cloning software can sometimes do it in 1 minute
[07:14] <ghostchick> yeah ,  i  thought of using rsync ,thanks
[07:14] <nibbier> lotuspsychje, i have seen cp finish in less than 1 second!!11!
[07:15] <imacake> nibbier: RTNETLINK anwers: no such process
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> nibbier: not for huge ammounts of data u dont
[07:15] <nibbier> imacake, well, full pastes of the commands i asked you before would be helpfull ./ but i see the problem
[07:15] <nibbier> lotuspsychje, you did not get my message.
[07:16] <cansranma> c
[07:17] <heyuxiang> i found there is no aircrack-ng in official repo, am i right?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !info aircrack
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !info aircrack-ng
[07:18] <nibbier> lotuspsychje, when copying (not moving) stuff from A to B its always a matter of disk throughput, in the case of cp especially for plenty  of small files also a matter of access time. when cloning a drive you either skip the access time and do it as a whole, sequencially which also copies, so reads and writes, unused sectors, or you start seeking a lot as well.... hard to see the benefit
[07:18] <imacake> nibbier: if you want i can copy them by hand, but how shall i post them to the internet with no connection :( ?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> nibbier:she asked for a huge amount of data, i dont see how you can copy that in 1sec
[07:19] <heyuxiang> lotuspsychje: why
[07:19] <hydrox24> heyuxiang: well, it
[07:19] <hydrox24> heyuxiang: well, it's on my laptop
[07:19] <hydrox24> http://pastebin.com/HUPZxH5G
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> heyuxiang:why what?
[07:20] <heyuxiang> lotuspsychje: why no aircrack on ubuntu repo?
[07:20] <hydrox24> heyuxiang: I'm on 11.10 though
[07:20] <nibbier> imacake, as i said, i see the problem :/ - copy the full line of "ip addr show | grep eth0"
[07:20] <heyuxiang> hydrox24: im on newly installed 12.04
[07:21] <heyuxiang> !info aircrack-ng
[07:21] <nibbier> imacake, cam+picturebin might an option, too
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> heyuxiang: lol im not responsible for the repos mate,
[07:21] <heyuxiang> !info reaver
[07:22] <heyuxiang> i came to linux for aircrack... and i found nothing
[07:22] <cansranma> how do i get to the gnome center?
[07:22] <heyuxiang> !info gnome-center
[07:22] <heyuxiang> !info gnome-center-*
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> heyuxiang: i think you might wanna join #backtrack-linux
[07:23] <cansranma> ctral alt what?
[07:23] <nibbier> heyuxiang, try backtrack if you want to have everything prepared for this kind of stuff, or build it yourself. please mind: neither of this is supported on #ubuntu
[07:23] <cansranma> brings up terminal
[07:23] <cansranma> ?
[07:23] <auronandace> !info aircrack-ng oneiric
[07:23] <heyuxiang> nibbier: ok, i see, people said this is not supported, and people still use it to hack, what a lier
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> heyuxiang: not because its not supported, you can install it manually..
[07:24] <heyuxiang> auronandace: what is oneiric
[07:24] <heyuxiang> 11.10?
[07:24] <auronandace> heyuxiang: 11.10
[07:24] <imacake> nibbier: one more second...
[07:25] <heyuxiang> i see, this package is removed from 12.04 maybe
[07:25] <auronandace> heyuxiang: precisely
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> heyuxiang:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng/+bug/949531
[07:26] <heyuxiang> i would go back to archlinux if arch haven't slow down my SSD.
[07:26] <imacake> nibbier: http://i.imgur.com/W2JNz.jpg
[07:27] <auronandace> !rootirc | cocolino
[07:28] <nibbier> imacake, i see no carrier, can you please confirm the color of the LED on your network card or on the router?
[07:28] <laumonier> hi how can i update my kernel ubuntu? ive try apt-get dist-upgrade but it doesnt work thx for help
[07:29] <heyuxiang> i sill love my archlinux
[07:29] <imacake> nibbier: how else shall i be typing here.
[07:29] <nibbier> imacake, i'm talking of the port where the non-working computer is plugged
[07:29] <heyuxiang> i'll go back to archlinux after i  buy a new laptop
[07:30] <auronandace> !info linux-image | laumonier
[07:30] <Guest22880>  dds
[07:33] <nibbier> imacake, i also see that the wifi interface seems to find a carrier, but cannot connect, what happens if you enter the right password?
[07:34] <in_> how to install penumbra overture for ubuntu 12
[07:34] <in_> how to install penumbra overture for ubuntu 12
[07:34] <memetic> I've recently purchased an Asus Rampage IV Extreme, which features on-board RAID0, 1, 5, 0+1.  I've configured four SATA drives in RAID0+1 configuration, but Ubuntu doesn't see the volume.
[07:34] <memetic> How should I approach solving this problem?
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> memetic: are you sure the drive is connected right?
[07:35] <nibbier> memetic, do not use onboard raid, use linux softraid - onboard raid is a lie anyway
[07:35] <Ghosthunter007> Hardware raid it will not see it
[07:35] <memetic> nibbier, well is it really?
[07:35] <imacake> nibbier: oh sec, this is of when lan was disconnected. here with(eth0 changed a bit): http://imgur.com/VrRCS
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !raid
[07:35] <memetic> Is it really Fake Raid?
[07:35] <nibbier> memetic, what raid controller does this board feature?
[07:35] <heyuxiang>  in_ we don't know what it is
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hi there ghosthunter007
[07:36] <Ghosthunter007> hello lotuspsychje I looked in to haarp
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> pm ghost
[07:36] <in_> heyuxiang it is a game full circle issue 11
[07:36] <nibbier> imacake, now it is connected, but does not have an ip address. do you know the ip of your gateway?
[07:36] <Guest22880>      有没有规划哦三天
[07:36] <imacake> nibbier: gateway = router? then 192.168.2.1
[07:37] <heyuxiang> in_: what's your problem?
[07:37] <nibbier> !cn | Guest22880
[07:37] <in_> heyuxiang the full name is penumbra:black plague
[07:37] <auronandace> in_: is it a windows game?
[07:37] <nibbier> imacake, "ip addr add 192.168.2.215/24" and "ip route add default via 192.168.2.1" then "ping 8.8.8.8"
[07:38] <auronandace> !appdb | in_
[07:38] <heyuxiang> in_: there is no suck game in ubuntu 12.04, at least for me
[07:38] <in_> No. I read about it in the 11th issue of full circle ubuntu free magazine
[07:38] <in_> Us ual l y
[07:38] <in_>  t h
[07:38] <in_>  e
[07:38] <in_> s carie s t part of
[07:38] <in_> adv e nt
[07:38] <FloodBot1> in_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <in_>  uring on a
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | in_
[07:40] <dr_willis> played the earlier  penumbra game befor. dident care much for ut
[07:40] <imacake> nibbier: fail on the frist one (dev argument required)
[07:40] <nibbier> imacake, just noticed, add "dev eth0"
[07:41] <heyuxiang> in_: :(
[07:41] <in_> f
[07:41] <in_>  inds h im s e lt
[07:41] <in_>  f rappe d in an unde rground
[07:41] <in_> t
[07:41] <in_>  unne l
[07:41] <FloodBot1> in_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <in_>  com pl e
[07:41] <in_>  x in t h
[07:42] <auronandace> in_: stop doing that
[07:42] <in_> sorry guys
[07:43] <in_> Here is the link of the site http://www.penumbragame.com/
[07:43] <in_> yeah sure
[07:43] <dr_willis> in_: what about ut?
[07:43] <dr_willis> it.
[07:44] <in_> how do i get the game installed? penumbra:black plague
[07:44] <Onixs> lol
[07:45] <dr_willis> if its a windows only game. use wine. if it has a linux download. it depends on the download
[07:45] <imacake> nibbier: pinging 8.8.8.8 workd :D
[07:46] <cansranma> hjey
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> in_: is it on playdeb?
[07:46] <cansranma> when i take a screen shot in ubuntu its not giving me an option to save
[07:46] <cansranma> how do i pull up
[07:46] <laumonier> hi how can i update my kernel ubuntu? ive try apt-get dist-upgrade but it doesnt work thx for help
[07:46] <cansranma> i click print screen
[07:46] <cansranma> bujtton
[07:46] <FloodBot1> cansranma: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <in_> The Penumbra Series consits of three games, all of which have been released and can be bought as digital downloads for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Penumbra for Windows also comes as a boxed retail version, available from online retailers and in your local game store.
[07:46] <in_> Penumbra: Overture is the first game in the series, Penumbra: Black Plague is the second title and Penumbra: Requiem is an expansion for Black Plague.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> in_: yes, I have it, no need to spam the channel
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | laumonier
[07:46] <nibbier> imacake, ok, thats good news, your network works. a bit ;-) try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[07:47] <dr_willis> so download the linux files.. and install it.
[07:47] <auronandace> laumonier: what does uname -a reveal?
[07:47] <in_> i dont get it? I used the paste.ubuntu.com link
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> imacake: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[07:47] <laumonier> auronandace, 3.2.0-26-generic-pae
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> imacake: then retry web access (sounds ike you have no web access but can ping 8.8.8.8)
[07:47] <in_> how to "not flood" the channel
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> in_: use a pastebin
[07:47] <dr_willis> in_:  you paste the url of the padtebin link
[07:47] <auronandace> laumonier: then you have the most up to date kernel from the repos
[07:48] <imacake-ubuntu> nibbier: yay, connected from ubuntun ow
[07:48] <in_> Oh! got it. :P my bad
[07:48] <MechanisM> hello I'm having problem with drivers for soundacrd. after updates I lost sound, but one guy in this room helped me by advicing command: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, but still after reboot I'm loosing sound and sometimes after this command not all output devices being activated
[07:48] <nibbier> imacake: so i believe you screwed up your network manager. 1st try to use dhclient eth0, if this gives you a valid IP, nameserver etc, then its your network manager, if this does not work, its your router ( i'd bet)
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> in_: download the Linux file from the website
[07:49] <laumonier> auronandace,  so why i ve three packet which are non up to date? linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
[07:49] <in_> no apparently it is not in playdeb? that's y i'm asking your help
[07:49] <imacake-ubuntu> nibbier: okay, so how do i make that permanenet and get it working for wireless (or is it working already? as far as I'd guess the problem was the configuration only, but dunno)
[07:49] <MechanisM> in sound settings for devices I see "Dummy Output"
[07:49] <nibbier> imacake-ubuntu, please as a first step follow the further debugging
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> in_: download the file from the web and mark it as executable, then run it in terminal with sudo
[07:50] <auronandace> laumonier: did you apt-get update before you apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:50] <laumonier> auronandace,  ofc
[07:51] <auronandace> laumonier: what was the output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> in_: cracking game btw, very worth the money :)
[07:51] <in_> ActionParsnip: Thanks! and about that flooding. I'm really sorry
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> in_: np dude :)
[07:52] <dr_willis> creepy games creep me out..
[07:52] <in_> ActionParsnip: Just wondering is there anyplace where we get linux game torrents
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: very creepy indeed
[07:52] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip, nibbier: now nameserver isnt working. (still this irc works, but not even pinging works now anymore)
[07:52] <imacake-ubuntu> also, im all time on wired connection, just so you know
[07:53] <dr_willis> !games
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> in_: depends how the game makers ditribute their games, there is a torrent for the penumbra demo
[07:53] <nibbier> imacake-ubuntu, did you execute the dhclient command?
[07:53] <imacake-ubuntu> yes
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: can you ping your router's internal IP?
[07:53] <imacake-ubuntu> shall i reinvoke it now
[07:53] <in_> ActionParsnip: Who is looking for the demo? :P
[07:54] <dr_willis> in_:  buy it. no warez here
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> in_: I used a direct link when I got my full copy, not sure if there is a torrent, its been a while
[07:54] <laumonier> auronandace,  http://pastebin.com/EpDie8Cr
[07:54] <nibbier> imacake-ubuntu, no but see if "ip route list" still points to your router and if "ip addr show" still shows an IP from the right network
[07:54] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: i can still ping 192.168.2.1. reexecuting `dhclient eth0` gives me file exists.
[07:55] <dr_willis> it was part of the humble bundles i thiught
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: if you can ping the router, you have an IP and so forth, so dhclient isn't needed any more :)
[07:55] <in_> ActionParsnip: i just got one :) here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079261/
[07:55] <auronandace> laumonier: maybe you'd be better off in #ubuntu-fr
[07:55] <imacake-ubuntu> but that nameserver echo thingie made no hostnames work =(
[07:55] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, imacake: the question is: did your dhcp server give you a gateway, so please follow the instructions to check this out
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> in_: we don't support illegal behaviour here
[07:56] <panz> hello guys i cannot run NVIdia X server
[07:56] <panz> settings
[07:57] <dr_willis> panz: your video card us a? you installed the nvuda drivers how?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu:  try:    sudo route add default gw 192.168.2.1 eth0
[07:57] <panz> dr_willis, by jockey-gtk
[07:57] <in_> yeah! wont happen again
[07:57] <panz> and nvidia-current
[07:57] <panz> alster reboot
[07:57] <panz> later reboot
[07:58] <panz> and i im click to seperate screen and i im Clicking on "NVIDA X Server Settings" and Nothing...
[07:58] <panz> none reaction
[07:58] <auronandace> panz: try the other screen
[07:58] <imacake-ubuntu> SIOCADDRT: file exists
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> in_: you do realise that the full set is $20...pretty cheap compared to Windows games...
[07:58] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, we are way beyond this point, this works, the question right now is how to make it permanent, at best how to make it permanent with network-manager. so the first thing is, as he gets IP via dhcp, see why it does not work, so see if he gets gateway/nameserver - if its worng or empty, if so fix dhcp server, and not execute cli to temporarily fix it
[07:59] <panz> auronandace, how? as i cannot run X Server NV Sett....
[07:59] <dr_willis> panz:  so the nvida-settings tool runs?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> nibbier: you can set the IP and so forth in network manager by setting the interface to static and set the addressing
[07:59] <auronandace> panz: i thought you just said you click to seperate screen
[07:59] <panz> dr_willis, no, none reaction from clicking
[07:59] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, sure. but this would be my last choice of fixing this problem
[08:00] <panz> click and nothing...
[08:00] <dr_willis> panz:  use the terminal
[08:00] <in_> ActionParsnip: 20$ is 1200 rupees in India. Not cheap here. Even GTA4 costs around 400 rupees. And that is not cheap
[08:00] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, as there is an existing dhcp i'd see if this delivers the right config and fix this if not
[08:00] <panz> bash: /usr/bin/nvidia-settings: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu ( not file and  catalog)
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> nibbier: if it works then I'd go for it, could try installing wicd and remove network manager, may help. If the system is always going to use wired connection, you could remove the GUI apps and use /etc/network/interfaces :)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> in_: still doesn't make what you are doing 'ok'
[08:01] <panz> /usr/bin$ ls nvidia*  :  nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings  nvidia-xconfig nvidia-detector       nvidia-smi
[08:01] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, and leave the network with a non-working dhcp.... sounds like a plan ;-) but feel free... i'm out
[08:01] <panz> but from terminal says that file nvidia-setting not exist... lol?
[08:01] <imacake-ubuntu> D:
[08:02] <auronandace> panz: you missed the s on the end
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> nibbier: is the ubuntu system a dhcp server?
[08:02] <dr_willis> tab key is our friend....
[08:03] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: my router is a dhcp server. i have multiple clients going cleanly.
[08:03] <panz> auronandace, bash: ./nvidia-settings: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu ( not file and catalog)
[08:03] <panz> nvidia-settings: command not found
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: then in network manager, set the interface to static IP at the highest address in your subnet so you don't upset your router
[08:04] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: but dhcp works fine...
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: then what bit of info is missing in the config of the ubuntu ssytem?
[08:05] <imacake-ubuntu> i can tell you what i know,
[08:06] <imacake-ubuntu> currently, hostname resolving doesnt work (e.g. im still connected to this irc from the affected system, so it works somehow. but pinging google.com gives me, obviously, unknown host)
[08:07] <nibbier> ActionParsnip, i'd guess the router is (normally)
[08:09] <JohnTeddy> I have a laptop, and an external monitor. When I full screen a youtube video on my external monitor.. it opens on 2/3rds of the monitor. So the left 1/3rd side is blank, and the right 1/3rd side of the video doesn't show. I only see the left 2/3rd, and it's offset.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> nibbier: if you manually add a DNS server, is the web then ok and are you fully updated?
[08:09] <JohnTeddy> Does that make sense... how can I fix this?
[08:10] <hydrox24> JohnTeddy: What version of ubuntu are you using and are you using the proprietary nVdida graphics card drivers?
[08:10] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip, nibbier: you two are awesome.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: :)
[08:11] <JohnTeddy> hydrox24: I have the latest version of Ubuntu witha ll the updates, and I'm using Intel graphics.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: are you fully updated?
[08:11] <imacake-ubuntu> will you be online later, too? because we darely need to go shopping in the morning, else the stores will be overcrowded. gonna take two hours more or less.
[08:11] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: i dont have how to update =P
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> JohnTeddy: is the resolution of each display set correctly?
[08:14] <JohnTeddy> ActionParsnip: I think so.
[08:15] <hydrox24> JohnTeddy: is the flash up to date? what version is it?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: so do you not get web access until you manually add the DNS server, is that right?
[08:16] <hydrox24> JohnTeddy: also, does the issue also occur when using html5 video?
[08:16] <JohnTeddy> Flash (2 files) - Version: 11.3.31.109
[08:16] <JohnTeddy> Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31
[08:16] <JohnTeddy> hydrox24 / ActionParsnip How can I reset all my monitor settings and redo them?
[08:16] <JohnTeddy> (I only used the gui)
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> JohnTeddy: shockwave haven't owned flash for ages now :)
[08:17] <cansranma> how do u get to the software manager ?
[08:17] <cansranma> I click on the software center
[08:17] <hydrox24> cansranma: it's the software center now.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: search dash for: software
[08:17] <imacake-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: will you be online later, too? because we darely need to go shopping in the morning, else the stores will be overcrowded. gonna take two hours more or less.
[08:17] <cansranma> from what i heard you hover the mouse over the title ndits there
[08:17] <cansranma> hydrox24, is that the new one?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> imacake-ubuntu: I'll be online for another 10 hours
[08:18] <JohnTeddy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:18] <cansranma> dash?
[08:18] <hydrox24> cansranma: essentially, though it's more soft and user friendly now.
[08:18] <hydrox24> less powerful.
[08:18] <imacake-ubuntu> k :D
[08:18] <ghostchick> cansranma,  it is the software sources we opening . sofware manager is the one already opened
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: press SuperL (aka 'windows key'), that is dash
[08:20] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,  trying to explain mouse discoverability of menus via irc is so  "easy"  ; )
[08:20] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[08:21] <Golfgeo> Running lubuntu 12.04 and trying to get an msn type client to work with webcam... can someone give me a pointer to the right howto?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> ghostchick: yeah, thats why I use keyboard more. Mouse is too slow
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: amsn supports webcam
[08:22] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,  I agree, but try to really it is so effing hard to explain it to people, when you have to show the gui way lol
[08:22] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Tried it and it stated it cannot detect a webcam
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: does th webcam work in cheese
[08:22] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Yep
[08:23] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: looking at myself in cheese now haha (had to check again)
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[08:24] <JohnTeddy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974509
[08:24] <JohnTeddy> Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem.
[08:26] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: precise Linux Skylab 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 16:26:01 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[08:26] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: had to add the old repositories to install amsn
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: ok let me search
[08:33] <an5hul> best IRC client for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <wmp> Irssi
[08:33] <anthology> weechat
[08:34] <allenyk> ircii
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> an5hul: neither 9.10 or 9.04 are supported any more, so you won't be able to install anything
[08:34] <ghostchick> xchat ftw
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> an5hul: also, there is no single best irc client for any release, or any OS
[08:34] <Mario2> xchat ftw 2nded
[08:35] <an5hul> hmmm
[08:35] <chu> !best
[08:35] <an5hul> i'm using 11.10
[08:36] <an5hul> ok
[08:36] <an5hul> i'll take care
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> an5hul: 'Ubuntu 9' isn't 11.10, is it?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> an5hul: ahhh, my bad, sorry
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> stupid new monitors scewing text
[08:37] <Diazo> I don't know if this is the right place to ask but does anybody know how to go about zero-filling a harddrive? I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu yet I'm getting a couple of errors in GParted and Disk Utility.
[08:38] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: need to reboot, be back later :)
[08:38] <Golfgeo> exit
[08:41] <mountain> #bawel
[08:42] <dr_willis> Diazo:  use the dd command with the right.options
[08:43] <dr_willis> Diazo:  but a failing hard drive is.. well  failing. ;)
[08:43] <Diazo> dr_willis, Harddrive is an SSD about six months old.
[08:45] <dr_willis> Diazo:  so? that dosent prove much. but im not sure zeriing a sdd is a good test or way to fix it.
[08:45] <Diazo> One of the techs told me to zero-fill the drive to try and fix it. Seeing as GParted can't seem to delete my primary partition and Disk Utility doesn't seem like it wants to give in. I did somehow get the drive to format in disk utility.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: if you delete the partitions in the liveCD, then run the installer, it may help
[08:47] <compdoc> Diazo, be sure to enable trim for the drive in /etc/fstab
[08:47] <Diazo> Might not prove much but the way the drive got corrupted was when I tried to 'encrypt my home folder' and there was no indication of the progress on encrypting the entire drive. So I assumed the installation hanged or stalled and of course I mistakenly power off the machine and I couldn't delete my encrypted partition.
[08:48] <Diazo> compdoc, I never zero-filled a drive before so I pretty much am new to the computer term and doing it.
[08:48] <Diazo> compdoc, More or less I'm going to wait for confirmation from the tech.
[08:49] <Diazo> I was just curious. Cause if I zero-fill the drive and it gets trashed i don't know if the warranty covers it.
[08:49] <compdoc> Diazo, I dont see any advantages to doing that. but if 'trim' is not enalbed, you'll shorten the life of the ssd
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: you can use dd if you want, not sure how much zeroing will achieve. I suggest you don't use encryptfs
[08:50] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, I'm assuming encryptfs isn't an ideal thing?
[08:51] <Diazo> compdoc, Nice to know that if it shortens the lifespan I can always ask the tech.
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: it just adds extra complication for reinstalls and stuff like that
[08:52] <Diazo> compdoc, Zeroing the drive seems like the only way I can install Ubuntu unless I buy a new SSD which I'm not going to do.
[08:52] <Diazo> As of right now I'm using a USB flash drive for Ubuntu as a livecd.
[08:52] <JohnTeddy> hydrox24 / ActionParsnip It is a known problem with 11.3; I downgraded to 11.2 (the default on Ubuntu). Everything works fine now. It's because i was using third party software from Google. The Google chrome version uses the latest 11.3 which is broken currently.
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> JohnTeddy: is what a problem, you lost me...
[08:55] <compdoc> Diazo, why do you have to zero the drive at all? Because it's hanging at install? Ive had an SSD drive do that to me when it was installed in a computer that didnt support it properly
[08:55] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, I tried deleting the partitions gave me nothing but errors I can't even delete my primary partition in gparted or disk utility. GParted shows a keylock on my primary partition.
[08:55] <JohnTeddy> ActionParsnip: no, it works now. It's fixed. I downgraded. I'm just letting you know what the problem was, in case anyone else has it.
[08:55] <Diazo> compdoc, Because I simply cannot install Ubuntu.
[08:55] <JohnTeddy> I think people with two or more monitors using the Google chrome will all have this problem.
[08:55] <JohnTeddy> Until Google/Adobe fix it.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> JohnTeddy: sweet
[08:56] <dr_willis> i play youtube in vlc..
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: try the wipe then, why not. it will labour the drive though
[08:56] <Diazo> compdoc, I tried installing Ubuntu using the USB installer to install on top of the SSD. Instead, the USB installs on top of the USB and not the SSD.
[08:56] <dr_willis>  ;)
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> minitube ftw :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> flashreplacer extension.
[08:57] <compdoc> Diazo, that does not sound like theres a problem with the ssd
[08:57] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,  umplayer ftw
[08:57] <compdoc> unless the system does not see the drive
[08:57] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, What kind of wipe?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: could use dd
[08:58] <dr_willis> zeroing is whipeing tge drive
[08:59] <lisak> hi, I have some kworker/rtkit-daemon  cpu load issues every third second after kernel upgrade to 3.2.0.26.28
[08:59] <Diazo> Isn't using DD zero-filling the drive?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: same difference, it will wipe all the bits to 0
[08:59] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_wipe_a_hard_drive_clean_in_Linux
[08:59] <lisak> what is the best way to downgrade kernel ?
[09:00] <lisak> to the previous version
[09:00] <dr_willis> and a zero fill is eraseing the whole drive. whipeing it clean
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> lisak: there is no single best way to do anything
[09:00] <lisak> best practise then
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> lisak: if you have the old version still installed, you can hold shift at boot and select the older kernel
[09:00] <gaelfx> how can I remove a package and everything that depends on it?
[09:01] <cybic_> hey everybody.... how to finde the manufacturer of a display-panel built into my notebook?
[09:01] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, That's what the tech suggested zero-filling. As far as I know that's the only way it would fix the bad partitions. But the thing is I'm afraid that if the drive does get reset and I try to install Ubuntu and something about the SSD going bad or something like that is in my mind.
[09:01] <wubino> what compiler do I need to use to compile wine-mono?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> cybic_: dmidecode may tell you, read it's man page :)
[09:01] <cybic_> ActionParsnip, thanks, will give a try :)
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: you say you are using Ubuntu on a USB stick/
[09:02] <gaelfx> do I just have to remove the package and then run apt-get autoremove?
[09:03] <dr_willis> dd the usb stick to the drive.. instant cloned install..  ;)
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: that'll do it, you can also add --purge to remove old configs too :)
[09:03] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: thank you, I was just gonna ask that
[09:03] <gaelfx> I wanted to be sure I understood the man page correctly
[09:04] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, Yes I don't know how the term is.
[09:04] <Diazo> LiveUSB I guess?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: those are cheap dude, I wouldn't worry too much :)
[09:04] <Diazo> I'm less worried about the USB but more about the SSD.
[09:04] <Diazo> lol
[09:05] <Diazo> SSD's don't come cheap.
[09:05] <dr_willis> so try to fix it... or leave it alone and have a yseless drive?
[09:05] <gaelfx> problem is, that after I remove lubuntu-desktop, all the packages that were installed with it are not being marked removable :/
[09:06] <Diazo> compdoc, What had happened is I wanted a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to clear the Ubuntu 11.10 junk out so I went about my business and use the LiveUSB. Went through the installation process and checkmarked 'encrypt my home folder' there was no progress indicator to verify indication of how long it takes to encrypt a drive. So in turn I thought the installation stalled or hanged I mistakenly powered off the machine and Ubuntu wouldn't
[09:06] <Diazo>  boot at all. So I figured the entire drive died and got completely corrupted.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: well, if it's already useless, you may as well have a crack
[09:08] <gaelfx> is there any way to remove packages that were installed as part of a *-desktop command, or do I need to go through and uninstall them myself?
[09:08] <Diazo> compdoc, From there on end I ended up trying to check GParted and Disk Utility the encrypted partition was not possible to delete it had about 15GB of harddrive space. I tried deleting it in GParted and Disk Utility to no luck...from there when I tried to reinstall Ubuntu for some odd reason it didn't install from the SSD but it installed on the USB.
[09:08] <compdoc> Diazo, try without encription? or does it just not work anymore? I would boot gparted and see what the partition looks like, and delete it from there.
[09:08] <dr_willis> or just use fdisk to delete all partitions
[09:09] <Diazo> It showed that there was 63GB left on the SSD but when I tried to boot from the SSD it gave me nothing but a black screen with a cursor blinking on the top left of the screen so that's why I ended up being stuck on the LiveUSB.
[09:09] <Diazo> So the installation ended up installing on the USB.
[09:09] <compdoc> install from the SSD? you have the ubuntu installer of the ssd drive?
[09:09] <compdoc> on
[09:10] <Diazo> compdoc, I can't delete the primary partition within GParted the delete button is grayed out.
[09:11] <Diazo> compdoc, Somewhat implying that it's mounted and can't be unmounted.
[09:11] <gaelfx> I installed lubuntu-desktop package a few days ago, now I want to clear out everything it installed, is there a simple command I can use to do that?
[09:11] <compdoc> that is odd
[09:11] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, It's a headache but pretty much zeroing the drive is the only way I see.
[09:11] <Diazo> compdoc, No kidding huh.
[09:11] <compdoc> do you run gparted from Ubtunu, or use the stand-alone gparted cd?
[09:12] <dr_willis> gaelfx:  not with meta packeges that i know of
[09:12] <Diazo> compdoc, I'm using GParted on the LiveUSB but isn't so called Live anymore when the installation is completely on the USB.
[09:12] <gaelfx> dr_willis: I really wish they would fix that :P
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Diazo: go for it dude
[09:12] <compdoc> Diazo, yeah, its still live if its the install iso
[09:13] <gaelfx> also, would it be appropriate to file a bug regarding installing a second desktop environment changing an aspect of the already-installed desktop environment?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: you can uninstall openbox lxde and the lubuntu-desktop package and it should remove most things
[09:13] <dr_willis> gaelfx: meta packages are a trick to let you install a lot of things. so not likely fixable
[09:14] <Diazo> ActionParsnip, I would panic so bad if everything just went wrong I'm going to wait till tomorrow until I hear more from the tech. I bought the system from http://www.system76.com/ they specialize in Ubuntu and such.
[09:14] <joelperez> just installed ubuntu on this laptop
[09:14] <joelperez> it doesn't detect my wireless router
[09:14] <gaelfx> dr_willis: yeah, but apt has a history of packages installed, it would stand to reason you could add something like "reason for install" to the logs and then when someone wants to remove the meta packages, it would remove other items installed with it, so long as they aren't vital to any other apps
[09:14] <Diazo> But I do appreciate you guys trying to help and give it a go to see if there were an alternative.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: if yuo run:  sudo iwlist scan    does it see wireless networks at all?
[09:14] <CompuChip> Hi. I am running Jaunty on my server, and I need to install some package (texlive-lang-cyrillic). However, apparently Jaunty is out of support and I can't use apt-get install anymore. Is there any way to install the packages without upgrading the whole OS?
[09:15] <joelperez> let me do that ActionParsnip
[09:15] <dr_willis> gaelfx: remiveing gedit. remives ubuntu-desktop.. so that in turn would remive most everything.....
[09:16] <dr_willis> could get ugly real fast
[09:16] <iceroot> !eol | CompuChip
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> metapackages are ok to remove, just causes issues when upgrading to the next relase
[09:16] <iceroot> CompuChip: there is an info in the last link how the eol repos are named
[09:17] <iceroot> CompuChip: but we suggest to update to a supported version instead
[09:17] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: how do i run that?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: press CTRL+ALT+T and run the command there
[09:18] <Diazo> Alright time for me to hop on outta here thanks for trying y'all and I appreciate it. :)
[09:19] <joelperez> lo Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:19] <joelperez> eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:19] <joelperez> is what i got
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: then its not seeing ANY netwoks, not just yours
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: if you run:  lsb_release -sc     what is output?
[09:19] <CompuChip> iceroot: I'll look into upgrading but I don't want to do that without making sure I won't break anything :) But I'll just try to get the packages from the old repo as I need them now
[09:19] <gaelfx> dr_willis: ah, I see what you mean
[09:20] <joelperez> it says 'precise'
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: run:  sudo lshw -C network      read the product line for the wireless device and you can use it to find guides
[09:20] <iceroot> CompuChip: just change the repo-urls in /etc/apt/sources.list to the jaunty-eol repos
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: if it says broadcom 43xx, then its a whole lot easier :)
[09:20] <CompuChip> iceroot: Thanks, I found my mistake, I should use old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of nl.old-releases.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <iceroot> CompuChip: yes
[09:21] <iceroot> CompuChip: but please remeber jaunty is eol and not supported here anymore
[09:21] <joelperez> that command is taking a moment to complete
[09:21] <joelperez> sec'
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: yes, your PCI bus is slow
[09:22] <foobaar> I don't get it. How do i install this? https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/ I have a tar.gz extracted in folder downloads and now i have some files but no executable (like in windows) ???
[09:22] <CompuChip> iceroot: will do, I'll discuss upgrading to the latest LTS with the owner. Thanks for the help nonetheless
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:23] <foobaar> ActionParsnip: lucid
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[09:24] <foobaar> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:24] <foobaar> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:24] <foobaar> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:24] <foobaar> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:24] <foobaar> :))
[09:24] <dr_willis> so.. is another package manager tool open?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: please don't flood
[09:25] <foobaar> it was posted 2 times in the terminal, i laughed because i just saw that now
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: do you have software centre open, or are updates installing?
[09:25] <foobaar> Synaptic package manager i open
[09:25] <foobaar> and computer janitor
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: then that's what is causing the issue
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: close both, then  retry
[09:25] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: http://i.imgur.com/6EABC.jpg
[09:26] <mkander> Hey. I am planning to set up a home server for storage. What would be the optimal disk config considering safety and speed? I can buy up to 4 disks.
[09:26] <dr_willis> for storeing what
[09:27] <mkander> music, photos, personal stuff
[09:27] <dr_willis> 4 big hds... ;)
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: all I needed was the product line, not the rest :)
[09:27] <mkander> backup from my other computers
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | joelperez
[09:27] <arian> hello
[09:27] <mkander> dr_willis: yeah, but RAID 10? 6 maybe?
[09:27] <Guest19816> is there any body here
[09:27] <Guest19816> ?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest19816: nope, noone at all
[09:28] <dr_willis> mkander: you need speed or space?
[09:28] <imacake> Guest19816: only ponies.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> RAID50 :)
[09:28] <Guest19816> Hello all
[09:28] <Guest19816> waht is this
[09:28] <Guest19816> ?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest19816: ubuntu support, didn't you read the MOTD when you joined...
[09:28] <dr_willis> i need space. i dont raid
[09:28] <mkander> dr_willis: Planning to buy 2 tb disks and I dont need more than 4 tb max
[09:29] <foobaar> ActionParsnip: done
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: ok, rerun the command (use up cursor in terminal)
[09:29] <dr_willis> mkander:  i got over 10tb.  need moar
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: you do know Lucid's life is quie short now...
[09:29] <foobaar> Now i do
[09:29] <foobaar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 145 not upgraded.
[09:30] <mkander> dr_willis: Ok, I dont need more than 4 now, but it would be nice if it was easily expandable
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: ok, then run:  sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     to get all those updates
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: did the PPA get added ok?
[09:30] <foobaar> Have not an ounce of clue ActionParsnip
[09:31] <Guest11086> #ubuntu-ir
[09:31] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, you only need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:31] <joelperez> thank you, ActionParsnip.
[09:32] <joelperez> going through the steps right now :)
[09:32] <Guest11086> hello all I am using "at" in terminal but I can not run that for the apt-get update
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: the upgrade does the packages it can safetly, the dist-upgrade then adds things like kernels and libc6 in a seperate move. Just habit but you are right :)
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: use:  sudo at    if you want to use at that needs root access
[09:34] <Guest11086> this?
[09:34] <Guest11086> sudo su
[09:34] <Guest11086> sudo at 11:00
[09:34] <Guest11086> apt-get update
[09:34] <FloodBot1> Guest11086: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: no, just use:  sudo at 11:00
[09:34] <Guest11086> aha tnx
[09:34] <Guest11086> :D
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: if you sudosu (which isn't advised) you are already root, so no need for sudo after that
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: use:  sudo -i
[09:35] <Guest11086> another question : I want to update only one ppa and i don't  want update all packages what can i do?
[09:36] <dr_willis> you update the list of things you can upGRADE
[09:36] <Guest11086> is there any to answer my que?
[09:36] <Guest11086> I want to update only one ppa and i don't  want update all packages what can i do?
[09:37] <dr_willis> you want to ugrade a single app?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: sudo apt-get install packagename     that wil upgrade only the packagename you give
[09:37] <Guest11086> can you paste that on ubuntu?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: you can paste as you wish
[09:38] <Guest11086> can you paste the answer on paste.ubuntu.com?I want to update only one ppa and i don't  want update all packages what can i do?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: depends on the PPA
[09:39] <lethargic> I know netcat has a -i switch to wait for the response, but it's in seconds. is there something like that but in milliseconds ?
[09:39] <nrdb> where does thunderbird keep its configuration now?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest11086: you can't just say 'PPA' and expect us to know every package on every PPA
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: ~/.mozilla/thunderbird
[09:39] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:40] <ghostchick> lethargic,  local or on the network?
[09:40] <lethargic> ghostchick: local..
[09:40] <hpuser23422> The notebook's touchpad is way too sensitive and keeps switching desktops.  How can I disable desktop switching by touchpad as I only want the panel icons to change desktops.
[09:40] <ghostchick> lethargic,  why dont you use nfs it is said to be faster
[09:40] <joelperez> can someone walk me through this 'System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers'
[09:41] <lethargic> ghostchick: erm, I don't transfer stuff with it
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: in dash, search for: driver
[09:41] <lethargic> ghostchick: I want to use it to test some server I'm writing
[09:41] <hpuser23422> at the moment, two fingers on the touchpad causes desktop switching..I want to disable that.
[09:41] <ghostchick> lethargic,  ah sorry , maybe ping?
[09:42] <joelperez> it found 'Additional Drivers'
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: thats the one
[09:42] <lethargic> ghostchick: erm, ping ?
[09:42] <joelperez> thank you again, ActionParsnip
[09:42] <lethargic> ghostchick: no, ping is something else
[09:43] <dr_willis> ping pong ;)
[09:43] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: it didn't bring up anything :[
[09:43] <oCean> lethargic: maybe the guys in ##networking know alternatives to netcat
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: I suggest you get fully updated over the wired link first
[09:44] <joelperez> i am on a wired link
[09:44] <joelperez> everything is up to date
[09:44] <dani912> ciao
[09:44] <dani912> !list
[09:44] <joelperez> fallowed the steps and everything
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: then try the CLI method, probably easier
[09:45] <joelperez> what's the CLI method?
[09:45] <ccvvcc> how can i search in man?
[09:46] <dr_willis> ccvvcc:  /pattern
[09:46] <dr_willis> see man less or vi docs for pattern options
[09:46] <dr_willis>  regular expressions are powerfull
[09:47] <ccvvcc> thanks, suggested answer will be "look at the manual"
[09:47] <ccvvcc> which will give me powerful paradox
[09:47] <ccvvcc> unsolved
[09:47] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, are you sure about that directory... I just upgraded to 12.04 ... I have the my old email configuration now in ~/.mozilla/thunderbird ... when I start thunderbird it is asking me for configuration setup ... :(
[09:47] <dr_willis>   /pattern is the basic syntax....
[09:47] <oCean> ccvvcc: dr_willis answered your initial question: search manualpages by using  /searchpattern
[09:47] <ccvvcc> i know
[09:47] <dr_willis> solved........
[09:48] <ccvvcc> I just suggested answer =p
[09:48] <dr_willis> manpages are shown in 'less' text viewer
[09:48] <ccvvcc> great i'll man less
[09:48] <dr_willis> theres are gui man page readers also
[09:49] <ccvvcc> btw
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: could try: find $HOME | grep -i thunder
[09:49] <revol0xf> nrdb: i believe its ~/.thunderbird/ in 12.04. I would try creating a symlink to the old path
[09:50] <ccvvcc> in nano, ctrl +w then i have options M-R M-C
[09:50] <ccvvcc> how i perform M-R
[09:51] <dr_willis> try alt-r  perhaps. m=meta=alt key
[09:51] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, ahh.... it seems to be ~/.thunderbird I will try that
[09:51] <hpuser23422> How to disable mouse wheel desktop switching in lxde?
[09:52] <foobaar> okay
[09:52] <cansranma> so you cant use gmail with ubuntu?
[09:52] <foobaar> so now where the heck do i find grub customizer after i installed it
[09:52] <ccvvcc> thanks again dr_willis
[09:52] <joelperez> it's weird that 'additional drivers' didn't launch :(
[09:52] <joelperez> restarting laptop
[09:53] <dr_willis> foobaar:  tap alt to start the HUD. then type gurb     perhaps?
[09:53] <dr_willis> grub. ;)
[09:53] <hydrox24> joelperez: you have to be *really* patient with 'additional drivers' sometimes.
[09:53] <foobaar> alt start?
[09:54] <foobaar> oh
[09:54] <foobaar> alt to start
[09:54] <foobaar> didnt see to =)
[09:54] <dr_willis> the alt key..brings up the hud search in 12.04
[09:54] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, revol0xf , fixed... its going now.
[09:54] <foobaar> tapping alt doesn't do anything
[09:54] <dr_willis> you in unuty 12.04?
[09:55] <foobaar> don't think so
[09:55] <foobaar> 10.04
[09:55] <dr_willis> tgats why then
[09:57] <foobaar> found it
[09:57] <foobaar> under system administration
[09:58] <foobaar> But when i launch it, it says "starting ..." and then quits (?????)
[09:58] <foobaar> "Starting administration application"
[09:58] <dr_willis> run it from terminal perhaps
[09:59] <dr_willis> look for error messages.
[09:59] <mukundanpr> like to instal wordweb engish dictioinary, how?
[10:00] <mukundanpr> iam new to ubuntu
[10:00] <dr_willis> !info wordweb
[10:00] <dr_willis> whats wordweb
[10:00] <LjL> mukundanpr: i don't think it's available for Linux, but you can get WordNet. WordWeb is based on WordNet.
[10:00] <dr_willis> a windows app?
[10:00] <mukundanpr> dictionary
[10:00] <LjL> !info wordnet
[10:00] <wubino> where does the ubuntu mongodb pkg install the db directory?
[10:01] <arian__> Hello all i want to know the best server os for servers?
[10:01] <wubino> best server os is ubuntu
[10:01] <dr_willis> arian__: depends on your needs
[10:01] <arian__> about security
[10:02] <mukundanpr> LIL: how to instal wordnet?
[10:02] <foobaar> how do i find out the path to it so i can open it in terminal?
[10:02] <LjL> mukundanpr: "sudo apt-get install wordnet"
[10:02] <wubino> arian__: security is only as good as the admin
[10:03] <dr_willis> security is an ongoing process...
[10:03] <wubino> redhat is prized in enterprise since little changes between distro releases, principle of least surprise
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> wow not heard wordweb for a long while..
[10:04] <arian__> how i can get backup from my updates?
[10:04] <foobaar> sudo open /usr/bin/grub-customizer doesn't do anything
[10:05] <dr_willis> foobaar:  gksudo guiappname
[10:05] <ghostchick> foobaar,  gksudo
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: proably need: gksudo /usr/bin/grub-customizer
[10:06] <arian__> ow i can get backup from my updates?
[10:06] <arian__> how i can get BACKUP from my updates??
[10:06] <foobaar> ActionParsnip: gksudo didn't do anything either but gksudo grub-cutomizer worked i think because i have now in terminal "iinitializing (w/o specified bootloader type)… * reading partition info…"
[10:06] <foobaar> Yet nothing happens now :-)
[10:06] <foobaar> Probably have to wait longer
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: give it time.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: I sugest you contact the PPA maintainer with any issues
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: what do you actually want to do with grub?
[10:07] <foobaar> is it normal for two grub customizer windows to open (they are both loading) maybe i should close one of them
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: its probably really easy to do without a 3rd party app
[10:07] <foobaar> ActionParsnip: i want to remove some older versions of ubuntu from the menu for start
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: you can do that in software centre, or even CLI
[10:07] <dr_willis> foobaar: uninstall the old kernels...
[10:08] <nrdb> with 12.04 the icon bar is not disappearing like it used to... how can I fix this?  is there a config. item that could have been changed?
[10:08] <dr_willis> or delete the old installs and update-grun
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: uname -a   shows the running kernel,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image     shows installed kernels. You can remove any kernel you want just not the metapackage or the running kernel
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: http://www.tuxtree.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-hide-unity-in-ubuntu-12-04precise-pangolin.html
[10:09] <arian__> ow i can get backup from my updates?
[10:09] <foobaar> thank you
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: source: http://www.tuxtree.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-hide-unity-in-ubuntu-12-04precise-pangolin.html
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> foobaar: most things you don't need an app, just ask and we can advise and you wont need to bloat your OS with weird apps
[10:09] <arian__> any body can answer?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> arian__: backup of what?
[10:10] <dr_willis> arian__: you makeing no sence
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> arian__: can you rephrase the question
[10:10] <arian__> backup for my ubuntu updates.
[10:10] <wubino> arian__: backup your system before the update
[10:10] <arian__> no no
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> arian__: to use on another system you mean?
[10:10] <arian__> yes i want use my backups on another system
[10:11] <dr_willis> you should have just said so..... ;)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> arian__: so you mean back up the DEB files to transport to another system to update offline?
[10:11] <arian__> yes backup from all files on sudo apt-get upgrades  (that downloaded)
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> arian__: `then why no say that, instead of what you said initially which confused so many?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> arian__: you can copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives   and copy them to the other system, or yuo can use aptoncd
[10:12] <dr_willis> arian__:  to a different box on the same network?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> arian__: in future, just use plain language, it's easier :)
[10:13] <dr_willis> !info apt-cacher-ng
[10:13] <arian__> I uesd the aptoncd but  I want to know how i can install the deb files   (when i want to install them that write the error)
[10:13] <arulmozhi> What is the difference between "Makefile.am" , "Makefile.in", "Makefile"
[10:14] <altan> Good morning fellas!
[10:14] <dr_willis> gdebi foo.deb     is handy way to install them
[10:14] <SplinterOfChaos> I'm trying to install Ubuntu and i already have Gentoo on the same box with a boot partition. When i tell the installer to use /dev/sda1 for /boot, it demands a reserved BIOS boot area (RBBA). /boot does not imply RBBA, but does RBBA imply /boot?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> wow that's 2 ends of the spectrum, gentoo and ubuntu
[10:15] <joelmperez> ActionParsnip:  http://i.imgur.com/mK7j4.png
[10:16] <joelmperez> but i still don't see my wireless router
[10:16] <arian__> can any body answer
[10:16] <arian__> ?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: did you reboot?
[10:16] <joelmperez> yes
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> arian__: i already did.....
[10:16] <wolverine> can you repeat the question arian
[10:16] <arulmozhi> What is the difference between "Makefile.am" , "Makefile.in", "Makefile"
[10:16] <wolverine> oh seems like someone already answered
[10:16] <wolverine> never mind
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: ok if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm    do you see 'missing firmware' lines?
[10:17] <SplinterOfChaos> ActionParsnip, until Gentoo has Ubuntu One...
[10:17] <arian__> only copy them? how to install them?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> SplinterOfChaos: it can if you compile it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> arian__: double click them or use:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> SplinterOfChaos: ANY linux distro can have ubuntuone
[10:17] <arian__> when i double click on them they has error
[10:18] <joelmperez> ActionParsnip:  no such line
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> arian__: use CLI, its probably easier
[10:18] <arian__> what is cli?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: ok if you now run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see networks?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> arian__: in terminal. CLI == command line interface
[10:19] <SplinterOfChaos> ActionParsnip, oh, crap, last time i googled it, there wasn't a Fedora/Gentoo port! I guess problem averted.
[10:19] <altan> is it at all possible to boot into os x w/ grub?
[10:19] <SplinterOfChaos> thanks
[10:19] <joelmperez> same errors as before
[10:19] <joelmperez> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.  eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[10:20] <arian__> can you get me a  code that install all of the deb files in a folder?
[10:20] <joelmperez> http://i.imgur.com/rox8m.png
[10:20] <Great_Danton> hi all, can someone tell me how to set up xchat so i can chat on #ubuntuforums server. Thanks.
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> arian__  if all goes well, .deb files are installed /usr/bin/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> SplinterOfChaos: if you get the source code which is freely available, there is nothing stopping you compiling a client for any distribution
[10:22] <arian__> I have one error on CLI install : see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079408/
[10:23] <wolverine> can you tell me the package which you are downloading
[10:23] <SplinterOfChaos> ActionParsnip, Theoretically true, but when it first came out, for whatever reason, i concluded that wasn
[10:23] <SplinterOfChaos> wasn't the case.
[10:24] <wubino> upstart is unrecognized at the command line but apt says it is installed.  what should I do?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> arian__: what is the output of: file :~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages$ sudo dpkg -i vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> oop
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> arian__: what is the output of: file ~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages/vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:24] <wubino> Can I uninstall upstart and reinstall via apt without a huge risk to the os?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> arian__: I hate putty sometimes
[10:25] <arian__> what?
[10:25] <wolverine> wubino: sudo apt-get remove upstart*, sudo apt-get install upstart*
[10:25] <joelmperez> ActionParsnip:  do you have any idea what could be causing this? :\
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: do you dual boot?
[10:26] <joelmperez> no
[10:26] <geirha> wubino: I wouldn't attempt to remove upstart. Try just reinstalling it. sudo apt-get install --reinstall upstart
[10:26] <joelmperez> this is the only OS
[10:26] <arian__> ActionParsnip: my english is not very advance and i am a persian iniran can you tell me what can i to do     with easily english?
[10:26] <joelmperez> just installed
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> arian__: copy the command I gave, paste it in terminal, what is output?
[10:27] <joelmperez> hardware was working fine with windows 7
[10:27] <geirha> wubino: Though upstart is not a command
[10:27] <wubino> geirha: you are miliseconds too late, and I hesitated for a second opinion : )  whish me luck
[10:27] <joelmperez> if that's what you're trying to figure out
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: if you run:  dmesg | less     do you see the broadcom mentioned
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: Windows is a completely different OS so it will act differently. It has completely different support
[10:29] <arian__> it is the output of that
[10:29] <arian__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079418/
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> arian__: what is the output of: file ~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages/vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:30] <joelmperez> ActionParsnip: i was only trying to say it's not a hardware issure :)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: its not incredibly useful
[10:30] <arian__> this is output of the install of this file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079418/
[10:31] <dr_willis> that vlc deb seems currupted
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> arian__: that's not the command I gave
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> arian__: the word 'file' is an ubuntu command
[10:33] <revol0xf> arian__: Just run the command ActionParsnip gave. Here *file* is a command.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> arian__: it tells you what a file is
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> arian__: what is the output of: file ~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages/vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> arian__: so copy from the word 'file' all the way to the end, run that
[10:34] <arian__> it isn't that?sudo dpkg -i vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> arian__: no, I'm giving you the commadn to run
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> arian__: copy the file I have given you and run it
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> arian__: there is no 'dpkg' word in the command I am giving...
[10:35] <arian__> you wrote this:
 arian__: double click them or use:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> arian__  please follow the instructions if you want to be helped
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> arian__: yes but after I asked for the output of a command and you gave a pastebin of something completely different...why?
[10:36] <arian__> can you copy the code is your mean on a pastebin?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> arian__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079431/
[10:37] <arian__> thanks
[10:38] <zorael> Is it possible to set a sysfs value via the kernel boot args? Specifically I'd like to set a specific CPU scheduler
[10:38] <joelmperez> ummm
[10:38] <arian__> what is this? 4th time now....
[10:39] <joelmperez> is there a way to search for a keyword such as broadcom in the terminal?
[10:39] <joelmperez> list is pretty long
[10:40] <bekks> zorael: Yes.
[10:40] <zorael> bekks: Any hints?
[10:40] <bekks> zorael: kernel cmdline: iosched=cfq
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> joelmperez  a keyword in a list or in a document? there's grep
[10:41] <zorael> bekks: Ah, my apologies if I'm not clear; I want to set the CPU scheduler governor to performance
[10:41] <joelmperez> MonkeyDust:  from this output; dmesg | less
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> arian__: just reminding you how many times i'veasked you for the same detail..
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: dmesg | grep -i broad
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> joelmperez  i was typing the same, ActionParsnip was faster ;)
[10:43] <bekks> zorael: Thats a userspace governor, and thus cant be set via kernel cmdline, BUT you could set it in /etc/rc.local by using cpufrequtils.
[10:44] <joelmperez> how do i get out of 'dmesg | less'?
[10:44] <zorael> bekks: All righty, thanks. I'm hesitant to recompile my kernel and set performance as default, else I guess I could do that, too.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: press Q
[10:45] <joelmperez> dmesg | grep -i broad returned nothing
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> joelmperez: does it show in :   sudo lshw -C network
[10:46] <altan> how can i install osx onto another partition and boot into it with grub?
[10:46] <arian__> این جا کسی هست فارسی بلد باشه؟
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> altan  type !mac
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> altan: I'd get the OS installed first
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:46] <altan> !mac
[10:46] <arian__> is there any body who is persian?
[10:47] <nooba> hi, is anyone getting some weird behaviour with ati cards and ubuntu 12.04? my opengl application is behaving strangely, chrome doesn't render properly, stuff like this
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> !ir| arian__
[10:48] <arian__> هیچ کسی روی #ubuntu-ir جواب نمیده :(
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> arian__  type /join #ubuntu-ir
[10:49] <joelperez> he's in there
[10:49] <wubino> wolverine: thanks, your tip was priceless
[10:50] <arian__> هیچ کسی روی #ubuntu-ir  جواب نمیده چرا؟
[10:50] <wolverine> :)
[10:50] <wolverine> No problem Wubino happy to help
[10:50] <LjL> arian__, be patient. it's a small channel.
[10:50] <wubino> geirha: but your advice was best
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> arian__: can you pastebin the output of the command please?
[10:50] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: it does show up
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: is it a laptop?
[10:51] <joelperez> yes
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: try shutting down, remove power and remove battery and leave it out a few minutes
[10:52] <wubino> wolverine: I am currently booking tickets via the command line to come and see you and thank you in person
[10:52] <wolverine> hehe
[10:52] <wolverine> well no need to waste money i took your thanx via IRC ;)
[10:52] <arian__> output of which code?
[10:54] <wubino> wolverine: time, money is nothing to a grateful netizen like me.  I am now setting up the bash scripts to restore ubuntu desktop and applications while I am on my trip.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> arian__: the command I gave in the pastebin which you requested
[10:55] <wolverine> you are very humourous wubino
[10:55] <wubino> excuse me folks while I reboot again
[10:55] <wolverine> but its time for me to have some tea
[10:55] <wubino> Ill be back
[10:55] <wolverine> enjoy
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> arian__  type this in a terminal and press enter    file ~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages/vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:55] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: battery removed
[10:55] <arian__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079454/
[10:55] <arian__> this is the answer
[10:55] <arian__> file ~/Downloads/aptoncd-20120629-DVD1/packages/vlc_2.0.1-4_amd64.deb
[10:56] <arian__> sorry
[10:56] <joelperez> i've set a timer for five minutes
[10:56] <arian__> see this
[10:56] <arian__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079431/
[10:56] <joelperez> is that satisfactory enough for you, ActionParsnip?
[10:56] <joelperez> would you like me to give it more time?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> arian__: yes, the 2nd paste is MY pastebin, it even says my name on it, so why do I need it?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> arian__: you didn't run the command corectly, coy from the word 'file' including the word 'file' right to the end
[10:57] <arian__> this is the output of that.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: should be enough :)
[10:58] <arian__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079431/
[10:59] <revol0xf> wow!
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> arian__: then you are either running it wrong, or the data is corrupted. Here is what the output should say: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079464/
[11:02] <arian__> ok what can i do for this"?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> arian__: redownload the deb files is my suggestion
[11:03] <arian__> but these are all my downloads :(
[11:03] <arian__> these were my updates and my backups :(
[11:04] <joelperez> that didn't work ActionParsnip
[11:04] <joelperez> :[
[11:04] <joelperez> fml
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest87110
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest77240: ^
[11:10] <iamelliot> has anyone encountered this problem? LOAD LOCAL INFILE cannot be used in mysql client
[11:10] <reuf> hello all - i installed compiz configuration manager - and i used static application switcher to change alt-tab switchin behaviour - i now have only icons - question: how can I make the icons very small?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> iamelliot: have you asked in #mysql etc?
[11:11] <iamelliot> ActionParsnip, eh.. i am sorry but i have not
[11:14] <arian__> how i can install  a file on ubuntu?
[11:14] <spat> I have an adobe-flashplugin that is broken (pre-remove script fails) How can I manually remove this package?
[11:16] <altan> i accidentally edited the /etc/default/grub file without making a backup. It still works, but I would like to return it to defaults. How can I do that?
[11:16] <spat> I know I can probable find it on the internet but it's blocking my firefox installation
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> altan: i'll pastebin you mine
[11:16] <altan> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:17] <joelperez> ActionParsnip: where are you from?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> spat, /etc/alternatives/mozilla , the libflashplayer.so file might work from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins as well , unless the app itself is corrupted
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: UK
[11:18] <joelperez> fffffffff
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:18] <joelperez> i was hoping you were close to me
[11:18] <joelperez> i would have brought some pizza over while you looked at the laptop
[11:18] <joelperez> lol
[11:18] <joelperez> i dont understand why it isn't working
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> altan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079486
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> altan: how do you accidentally delete the file?
[11:19] <joelperez> could it be because i'm on ubuntu x64?
[11:19] <spat> BluesKaj: Those files don help me remove it from the apt database
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: doubt it
[11:19] <altan> ActionParsnip, i didn't delete it, just edited.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> spat, sorry , look in , /etc/alternatives/mozilla
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> altan: ah, then remember to make a backup before playing
[11:19] <BluesKaj> oops
[11:19] <BluesKaj> wrong again
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> altan: even something like:  sudo cp /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub_old   wil do
[11:20] <BluesKaj> spat /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[11:20] <altan> ActionParsnip, yup, haha
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> altan: I suggest you use someting similar in future
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: do you have a switch to enable and disable wifi?
[11:20] <joelperez> yes
[11:20] <joelperez> it's enabled
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> joelperez: tried switching it off, waiting a litle then back on? Or tried booting with it in either position?
[11:21] <spat> BluesKaj: there is no such file. I do have /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[11:22] <joelperez> i'll try that
[11:22] <BluesKaj> spat, my copy and paste failed me , it 's definitely , /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer, but use root permissions if you want to remove the /libflashplayer.so
[11:22] <joelperez> i have been playing with it
[11:22] <joelperez> but i haven't tried booting it while its off
[11:23] <BluesKaj> spat, yes just remove libflashplayer.so, not the whole file
[11:23] <lcc> hi, how can I download kernel src?
[11:23] <spat> BluesKaj: Ok after I have done that what should I do?
[11:24] <lcc> apt-get source linux-image-generic doesn't work.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | lcc
[11:24] <BluesKaj> try to install Firefox , you said flashplayer was blocking it , spat
[11:24] <altan> ActionParsnip, mind if i have your /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme too?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> altan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079491
[11:25] <spat> BluesKaj: I think you missed my first message. I could not care less about the .so file. It is apt that is failing me.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> altan: btw, my grub file disables ipv6, this sin't default and is the only change to the file
[11:25] <BluesKaj> spat, how do you know apt is the culprit
[11:26] <lcc> thanks
[11:26] <altan> ActionParsnip, shouldn't be a problem, i dont use ipv6 at the moment
[11:26] <joelperez> didn't work ActionParsnip
[11:26] <Guest75001> hi guys im having a problem here installing ubuntu
[11:26] <spat> BluesKaj: aptitude gives an error on removing adobe-flashplugin 10. (so the broken package is the culprid) and its blocking all kind of stuf
[11:26] <magpie> guest75001 what seems to be the prob?
[11:27] <spat> I just want to remove it from the apt database. after that I will remove it manualy
[11:27] <Guest75001> im wanting to do a tripple boot on my laptop
[11:27] <Guest75001> win 7 win server 2008 and ubuntu 12.04
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> altan: just covering the bases :)
[11:27] <magpie> 75001 dont you have an option of installing them side by side?
[11:27] <altan> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[11:27] <BluesKaj> spa don't use aptitude , it has problems installing the proper dependencies, use apt-get
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: sure.ly you'd want the serve with maximum uptime....?
[11:27] <Guest75001> but when i went to do my partitions it wont let me make anymore even though i have enough space
[11:27] <BluesKaj> spat ^
[11:28] <Guest75001> its for academic reasons
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: do you have unpartitioned space?
[11:28] <Guest75001> yes but it says i already have 4 primary partitions
[11:28] <Guest75001> but i only have 2 os on atm
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: is the space you want to install Ubuntu to, partitioned or is it unallocated?
[11:29] <Guest75001> but one of the partitions is my recovery partition
[11:29] <Guest75001> unallocated but it wont let me set it up
[11:29] <BluesKaj> spat, did you see my post above about not using aptitude ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: I'd check in disk manager, see how many partitions you actually have
[11:30] <Guest75001> im using the live cd and in gparted
[11:30] <spat> BluesKaj: apt-get fails just as hard. I managed to get a working browser and found some stuff about removing it. brb
[11:30] <Guest75001> i have 4 partitions atm
[11:30] <spat> BluesKaj: roger that will use apt
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: can you run:  sudo fdisk -l   and pastebin the output. I assume you have web acces in live CD
[11:30] <Guest75001> yes but im on my pc atm not my laptop
[11:31] <rajeshp> there are 2 issues I am facing with ubuntu 12.04 installation in my Dell Inspiron n5010 laptop, 1) when I set two-finger scrolling settings in mouse and touchpad settings they get reset everytime I boot,  2) when I lock the screen, and comeback and login the screensaver keeps running and I am not able to login again
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: if you have 4 partitions, you will need to delete one to make it an extended partition as well as the free space, then install Ubuntu in logical partitions in the extended
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: you should have planned your partitions better
[11:31] <BluesKaj> spat , then you should check your sources.list , maybe a different server or enable some commented repos , thay are required to install your packages
[11:32] <Guest75001> ok but one is my system partition 1 is my windows 7 1 is server and 1 is my hdd recovery
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: surely, the server and win7 would only be 1 partition each, plus the recovery = 3 partitions...
[11:32] <Guest75001> yes but for some reason i also have a system partition as well
[11:33] <Guest75001> its a toshiba laptop so im not sure what they did there
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: maybe it's a server / win7 thing but you need to remove one to make it an extended partition#
[11:33] <rajeshp> Hi guys,im facing 2 issues with ubuntu 12.04,
[11:33] <rajeshp>  1) when I set two-finger scrolling settings in mouse and touchpad settings they get reset everytime I boot,  2) when I lock the screen, and comeback and login the screensaver keeps running and I am not able to login again
[11:34] <Guest75001> ok so i guess i have to back up my hdd recovery and then remove it
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: thats one way
[11:35] <Guest75001> as my system has my boot info ect...\
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: when you install ubuntu, the boot will be handled for you
[11:35] <allen> hello
[11:35] <Guest75001> so grub 2 will still detect win 7 and win server?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: yes
[11:36] <Guest75001> ok then ill delet the system and cross my fingers lol
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest75001: unlike the Windows boot loader which is tricky to get it to boot anything but windows
[11:36] <Guest10335> are there chinese?
[11:37] <Guest75001> ok well ill stay in chat incase i have more probs will try again now
[11:37] <BluesKaj> !cn | Guest10335
[11:38] <Guest75001> ok now i have the option to install alongside windows again hope thats what i should select
[11:38] <BluesKaj> wish you Guest75001 guys would use a real nick
[11:39] <Guest75001> or should i manualy set my partitions
[11:39] <cirustus> is that better
[11:40] <BluesKaj> cirustus, yes , now you're more easily distinguished
[11:40] <cirustus> np sorry i didnt do it earlier
[11:41] <BluesKaj> yeah , too many guests
[11:45] <cirustus> so once ubuntu is installed will i need to configure the grub 2 to pick up my windows os
[11:46] <IdleOne> cirustus: possibly, but usually grub sees any Windows installs and adds them to the grub menu.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: it will be detected during the install
[11:46] <cirustus> ok cool cool
[11:46] <Arch_> How can i create another partition on ubuntu? I've one partition "/", and can't unmount it.
[11:47] <Arch_> I've "Gparted" app.
[11:47] <cirustus> use gparted to creat a partition
[11:47] <Arch_> I've it, but it said "The partition could not be unmounted from the following mount points:
[11:47] <Arch_> Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mount points. You are advised to unmount them manually."
[11:47] <Arch_> when i wanna unmount "/".
[11:47] <BluesKaj> cirustus, during the the install , probly near the end you'll be prompted to include the windows OS in grub
[11:48] <cirustus> ok cool does 12.04 include gnu grub 2 as standard so i can customize or do i need to install that seperate
[11:48] <alfabravo> hi guys!
[11:48] <ghostchick> cirustus,  it is grub2
[11:48] <cirustus> ok lol
[11:49] <Cottus> hi alfabravo
[11:49] <BluesKaj> cirustus, depending on the type of install you're using
[11:49] <cirustus> 64 bit lts
[11:49] <Arch_> Can someone help me to create another partition on Gparted and how to fix that error?
[11:49] <spat> BluesKaj: Fixed it. There was something broking in the alternatives stuff. (some crap about iceape). I simply "fixed" it by creating a dummy update-alternatives...
[11:50] <Arch_> How can i unmount this "/" partition, and/or unmount other app's that mounted in it.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> spat, right ,..good to hear
[11:50] <ghostchick> Arch_,  you can not umount the / , while the system is working
[11:50] <Cottus>  / is the ROOT partition, it's where linux resides in, it can be remounted readonly
[11:50] <cirustus> if i remember / is your root partition
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: you remember well :)
[11:51] <Arch_> ghostchick, so how can i create another partition near it?
[11:51] <cirustus> well i need to learn this for my I.T studies
[11:51] <Sprocks> does anyone here know how to set up a PPTP VPN server that uses RSA on ubuntu server?
[11:51] <cirustus> is there any unallocated space?
[11:51] <Arch_> I need another partition and i need "/" to extend it to 2 partition.
[11:51] <IdleOne> Arch_: easiest way is to use a LiveCD or USB
[11:52] <Arch_> No cirustus
[11:52] <cansranma> hey
[11:52] <cansranma> what kind of error message is this
[11:52] <cansranma> http://imagebin.org/219835
[11:52] <cirustus> the other option is to shrink one of your partitions
[11:52] <cansranma> and how can i fix this
[11:52] <alfabravo> I know it's a little bit off topic, but I'm in my friends house and they wanted me to upgrade ubuntu. So I did and so I upgraded Thunderbird also. The problem is that they need it in German. I found some packages, but they doesn't seem to work. I don't want to take any risks here, so my question is: if I remove Thunderbird and install it again from the german site, will all accounts and content remain? Anyone tried this before?
[11:52] <Cottus> Arch_, remember to add the 2 to fstab,
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:53] <ghostchick> alfabravo,  just download the german localisation for thunderbird
[11:54] <cansranma> when i try to startup ubuntu i get this message http://imagebin.org/219835
[11:54] <cansranma> any help is appreciatede
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> alfabravo: just backup your thunderbird (as you should already have) then just restore the data from bacup
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: what video chip do you use?
[11:55] <Arch_> ActionParsnip, it is "natty"
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: natty is EOL in October, giving you only 4 months of support....
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: I'd recommend a clean install of Precise and wipe out Natty
[11:57] <IdleOne> Arch_: Why do you need this extra partition if I may ask?
[11:57] <cansranma> hey actionparsnip
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: is this natty install a new install?
[11:57] <Arch_> IdleOne, i need to install windows 7 near it to work with some other app's. and i need to keep ubuntu on my pc.
[11:57] <Arch_> yeap ActionParsnip
[11:57] <cansranma> actrionparsnip
[11:57] <cansranma> *action
[11:58] <cansranma> could u help me for a min
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: I'd get rid and install Precise. Why such an old release?
[11:58] <alfabravo> ghostchick ActionParsnip Yes, I'm about to download german version, but first I need to remove an english one. Will it also remove the accounts and content? I will back it up anyway, but as soon as I install german version, I will have no idea how to restore the data, because I don't speak german....
[11:58] <gitesh> how to save file into Terminal(trying to create a new site) ?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> alfabravo: i believe the settings files are identical
[11:58] <cansranma> hey actionparsnip
[11:58] <ghostchick> alfabravo,  you should have installed the localization package
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: ask the channel and it will help if it can
[11:58] <cansranma> do you know what is causing this bug
[11:58] <cansranma> http://imagebin.org/219835
[11:59] <Arch_> is there anything change on new upgrade ActionParsnip?
[11:59] <cansranma> or how to fix it
[11:59] <cansranma> because
[11:59] <alfabravo> I'll give it a try. Do you know answers to my questions?
[11:59] <IdleOne> Arch_: ok, backup any data you want to save. Install Windows 7 then install Ubuntu 12.04 that way the grub boot loader will pickup all your OS'es.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: what video chip do you use?
[11:59] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,  I agree as for the identical settings but i would advice saving the data first by prudence
[12:00] <cansranma> Geforce
[12:00] <alfabravo> ActionParsnip I'll give it a try. Do you know answers to my questions?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Arch_: even if you got Ubuntu working today, you'd have 4 months then all updates and support will end, so why bother
[12:00] <cirustus> so nividia
[12:00] <cansranma> yea
[12:00] <Arch_> aha, surely i just have this way IdleOne. Also i wanna ask what's your opinion about "chakra" and "mint" linux version instead of ubuntu?
[12:00] <cirustus> ok is this in a pc or laptop
[12:00] <cansranma> nvidia chipset
[12:00] <cansranma> pc
[12:01] <cirustus> ok can you go into bios and dissable your nvidia and boot using your onbaord graphics?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> alfabravo: You can copy the ~/.mozilla/thunderbird folder back and it should work
[12:01] <cansranma> is it normal to have several options to be selected at startup
[12:01] <IdleOne> Arch_: I have no opinions on those distros. besides that is off topic for this channel. you may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss other distros
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: did you install the proprietary video driver yet?
[12:01] <Arch_> IdleOne, however on my update manager said: "new release of ubuntu 11.10" no sign of 12.04
[12:01] <cansranma> i dont think i have onboard graphics
[12:01] <cansranma> nope i dont
[12:01] <Arch_> aha, thanks IdleOne
[12:02] <alfabravo> ok, bye.
[12:02] <cirustus> all motherboards should have an onboard graphics
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: like an onboard nvidia gpu?
[12:02] <cirustus> usually vga
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: 'onboard graphics' doesn't tell us much
[12:02] <cansranma> yeah thats not the prob because i was ble to get in through the recoery mode and it was fine
[12:02] <cirustus> ok im guessing your graphics is  card in the epasnsion slots on your motherboard
[12:02] <cansranma> but the thing is its a pain in the ass having to go through that process everytime
[12:02] <reuf> where is eclipse.ini located under 12.04?
[12:03] <cansranma> i have winxp on the machine
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: use the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:03] <cansranma> dual gbboot
[12:03] <Arch_> Thanks all, i'll install cursed win7, and connect here after i can install one of it's distros.
[12:03] <cansranma> where is this action?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | cansranma
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !find eclipse.ini
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> reuf: do you have  eclipse-platform installed?
[12:04] <reuf> yes i do
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> reuf: then run:  sudo updatedb; locate eclipse.ini
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: just change the boot option for nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:05] <reuf> it found eclipse.ini.ignored
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: sweet
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: locate is a badass command :)
[12:05] <reuf> what does the ignore part mean?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: no idea, could ask in an eclipse channel
[12:06] <tking> anyone here using HP envy 17 (8gb ram and 1.5tb) am having probs bcos my computer goes off on linux after 24hrs of none shut down, but doesn't on windows
[12:08] <angs> how can I check what compilers does my ubuntu have?
[12:08] <angs> apart from gcc ?
[12:09] <bekks> angs: It doesnt have other compilers unless you installed some, which you would know of.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> tking: so you get random power downs?
[12:10] <cirustus> ok now im stuck i just finnished installing ubuntu and i can select windows boot loader but it only boots win7 sever 2008 has dissapeared
[12:10] <angs> bekks: thanks, I am using a ubuntu image, is there any command to see the existing compilers?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: biit to ubuntu and get fully updated
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> *boot
[12:11] <tking> ActionParsnip, yes, because ubuntu makes my computer overheat (before ubuntu, i cud have my computer up for 1 meek windows are open room temperation is cold)
[12:11] <cirustus> ok no probs will do will post back if that doesnt solve the problem
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> tking: does it use hybrid/switchable graphics?
[12:11] <ghostchick> tking,  cpuutils?
[12:12] <tking> ActionParsnip, i never heard abt that before
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> tking: it has a radeon GPU and an intel one, doesn't it?
[12:13] <tking> ActionParsnip, ghostchick i wish i hv heard of those before, am using ubuntu 3weeks ++ now, i wont stop using it though
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> tking: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display   you will see both...
[12:13] <dekker3d> Hey all. I'm kinda stuck.
[12:14] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[12:14] <cansranma> change what option to blacklist1
[12:14] <cansranma> ?
[12:14] <cansranma> i cant even get into ubuntu
[12:14] <ufrgs> does anybody knows a application to control the computer fans speed please?
[12:14] <cansranma> unless i go through the recovery mode
[12:14] <tking> ActionParsnip, i hv checked it now trying to get pastebin up
[12:14] <dekker3d> I just added a third screen on my computer, a Cintiq, and Ubuntu freaked out over it. The whole thing was pretty much impossible to use. So I chose to try Gnome-classic (which didn't work either)...
[12:14] <cansranma> but then thats a huge pain in hte ass
[12:15] <dekker3d> And then I tried the recovery console. It won't respond and now it always boots into that.
[12:15] <dekker3d> How do I get out of the recovery console, and is it supposed to not react when I type?
[12:15] <tking> ActionParsnip, ghostchick http://pastebin.com/sJKneprn this is the result on terminal
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: hold shift at boot, then press E to (e)dit the boot, then remove 'quiet splash' and add 'nouvaeu.blacklist=1'  press ENTER to continue the boot
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> tking: yep, dual GPUs, it causes all kinds of hell in Linux
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> tking: may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[12:16] <cirustus> bad enough having nvidia graphics in linux :)
[12:17] <dekker3d> Oh lol.. ActionParsnip, could that be the cause of my screens freaking out? I have two screens attached to one GPU and another to the second GPU in a SLI setup
[12:17] <cansranma> action i ahve dual boot
[12:17] <cansranma> right after it post hold shift?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: never had an issue. If you want another way, you can chroot using liveCD and get updated and install the proprietary driver, you'll be ok then :)
[12:17] <dekker3d> Only the left screen works, it cuts off part of the screen on the left and my mouse is stuck on the left side (while clicking anything will act like I clicked on the right side)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cansranma: indeed, hold shift and you'll see grub :)
[12:17] <tking> ActionParsnip, thanks let me read thru
[12:18] <momen> ddddddd
[12:18] <cirustus> not really a big prob all my pc's us nvidia just gotta install driver before i can dual screen
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: well, yeah. Same in windows...
[12:19] <cirustus> well being a toshiba laptop it already comes pre installed
[12:19] <cirustus> but no biggie
[12:19] <ufrgs> does anybody knows a application to control the computer fans speed please?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: if the lappy came preinstalled with Ubuntu, it'd be the same as your pre-installed windows :)
[12:20] <cirustus> your bios should be able to do that
[12:20] <ufrgs> My laptop is kind of frying here...
[12:20] <tking> ActionParsnip, ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch can not access permission denied
[12:21] <dekker3d> Uhm. I'm about to reboot. Does anybody have -any- advice on my situation before I relog?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> tking: prefix with sudo
[12:21] <ufrgs> cirustus, but I don't need a restart right now.
[12:21] <cirustus> ufrgs: well its one way to sort the problem another is to buy a laptop cooling pad
[12:22] <dekker3d> Right. Brb then.
[12:23] <ufrgs> cirustus, well, I rather do cheap way now.
[12:23] <cirustus> ok im looking into it for you
[12:24] <cirustus> ok this may help http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[12:25] <ufrgs> cirustus, having a look, thank you.
[12:25] <cirustus> no probs just remember google is your friend :D
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> google is too constricting
[12:27] <cirustus> yes and no
[12:27] <cirustus> its helped me 80% of the time
[12:27] <chu> Yep, but as the factoid says... !google
[12:28] <chu> !google
[12:28] <dekker3d> Yo. I'm back. Installing nvidia-current and rebooting didn't help.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: try duckduckgo :), the bang syntax is fantastic
[12:29] <cirustus> ?? ok that one lost me
[12:29] <dekker3d> And I don't have access to a browser right now due to no visual environment, so you folks are my only hope
[12:29] <dekker3d> It's not like the #linux folks will want to tell me how to get out of Ubuntu's recovery console, I think, since it seems distro-specific.
[12:29] <ghostchick> dekker3d,  why dont you try xfce?
[12:30] <dekker3d> ghostchick: I'm not sure what xfce is. Desktop environment/windowmanager?
[12:30] <ghostchick> dekker3d,  DE
[12:31] <dekker3d> ghostchick: the environment started by the startx and unity commands are also DEs, right?
[12:31] <dekker3d> Both of those don't work because of resources taken up by the recovery console
[12:31] <cirustus> lol @ action just looked at it and yeah i see what you mean
[12:31] <dekker3d> And I can't figure out how to kill the recovery console
[12:32] <dekker3d> In other words, I need to recover my pc from the recovery console. How's that for irony? :P
[12:32] <imanc> the lenovo x1 isn't in ubuntu's approved hardware list, but I'm wondering if anyone has installed ubuntu on it and if there were any issues?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: what, duckduckgo?
[12:32] <ghostchick> you mean you are stuck in the recovery?
[12:32] <dekker3d> Yes
[12:32] <cirustus> yes
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: leaves google for dust.    try:   !yt ubuntu
[12:32] <dekker3d> It does not respond to my keyboard. All I can do is ctrl-alt-f6 and just use a console.
[12:33] <dekker3d> To be precise, I get "dekker3d@Dekker3DPC:~$ <little rectangle symbol>
[12:34] <tking> ActionParsnip, $ sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[12:34] <cirustus> @action nice took me staright to youtube with ubuntu querys
[12:34] <tking> ActionParsnip, results on bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Permission denied
[12:35] <dekker3d> Is it possible to kill the recovery console using the kill command? Does it have a single process name in ps aux?
[12:35] <geirha> tking: Because bash tries to open the file for reading, then run sudo echo ON
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> tking: echo "ON" | sudo tee  /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[12:36] <geirha> tking: sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch <<< ON   or   sudo sh -c 'echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch'
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> tking: the sudo doesn't traverse the redirection, so the only part of the command you ran getting sudo power is echo
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: exactly, bang syntax. Leaves google in it's tracks.
[12:37] <ubuntu_abhi> can anyone tell how to install gtk + latest version on 10.10
[12:37] <geirha> s/open the file for reading/open the file for writing/  how did I manage to get that wrong?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: also try !w !ebay !man   and so forth
[12:38] <cirustus> ok will do
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: you can also sort the results with extra options in the search box
[12:38] <icarious> i have an IBM ultraport webcam. how do i enable it under trisquel? is there a driver?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: hence "google is restrictiv" :)
[12:39] <dekker3d> ghostchick, do you have any ideas?
[12:39] <IdleOne> icarious: trisquel is not supoported in this channel
[12:39] <cirustus> @ action i see what you mean
[12:39] <IdleOne> supported*
[12:39] <ghostchick> dekker3d,  look at your pms
[12:39] <cirustus> never even knew this existed
[12:40] <geirha> dekker3d: getty is the command running on each VC
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: most are ignorant, don't sweat it
[12:40] <cirustus> +
[12:41] <cirustus> always willing to learn and have an open mind
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: you'll get people say 'what, you don't use google' and so on now :)
[12:41] <cirustus> suits me i dont like being a sheep that follows the flock
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> yes, or 'what! you have no facebook?'
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: you can use it to search google too though, just use !g   or to search images use !gi
[12:42] <cirustus> nice
[12:42] <dekker3d> geirha: thanks, I guess. I could always try killing any getty process then :P
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: or g-maps with !map london   for example :)
[12:42] <cirustus> yes i have facebook but mainly for contact with family ect.. i dont get into the fb politics
[12:43] <geirha> dekker3d: the one with tty6 as argument is the one running on Ctrl+Alt+F6. It will be respawned automatically
[12:43] <Cottus> !g test
[12:43] <arian> Hello all
[12:43] <IdleOne> politics/race/war/religion/Facebook/choice of favorite search engine are all off topic. Please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:43] <Guest10381> can i remove the launch bar between 2 monitors on 12.o4?
[12:44] <TR41N3D> Hello fellas - quick question. Will I be able to set up software RAID 5 with the H61 chipset, in ubuntu server?
[12:44] <geirha> Guest10381: yes, in Display settings
[12:44] <TR41N3D> (Has to be bootable)
[12:44] <Guest10381> thanks i never saw that before it :D
[12:45] <TR41N3D> Or, rephrased: is bootable software raid chipset dependable?
[12:45] <Guest10381> ok
[12:46] <Guest57262> when i want to move my mouse between 2 monitors on ubuntu 12:04 it stop for a secend if i move slowly.How i can remove that stop?
[12:47] <jelly-home> Hi, what image viewer is installed by default in 12.04?  When I run "see foo.PNG" in command line, I get
[12:47] <jelly-home> Error: no "view" mailcap rules found for type "image/png"
[12:47] <tking> ActionParsnip, how u get to know all this command
[12:48] <cirustus> gimp
[12:48] <jelly-home> I find it amusing that Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have a simple image viewer tool available
[12:48] <arian__> when i want to move my mouse between 2 monitors on ubuntu 12:04 it stop for a secend if i move slowly.How i can remove that stop?
[12:48] <tking> ActionParsnip, i tried to enter every command on their and reading the stuff to the best of my knowledge but i don't think its solved though
[12:49] <cirustus> type in image in the dash home i can see image viewer in there
[12:49] <nibbier> jelly-home, does it not? try eog
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> tking: mainly experience
[12:49] <jelly-home> nibbier: eog works, thanks
[12:49] <arian__> i found that
[12:53] <petoo> hi
[12:54] <petoo> suggest me some good IDE for "c/c++" , 8.04
[12:55] <slackin> so uhh, I have a wifi 802.11n card that uses the ath9k kernel module, but iwconfig never reports more than 54Mbit link, but my router is N also and when I'm in windows on my laptop it connects much much faster. It seems none of my 802.11n wifi cards ever report more than 54mbit connection in linux, what am I missing?
[12:55] <OerHeks> !ide
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> petoo: 8.04 on desktop is EOL
[12:56] <petoo> can't help ActionParsnip my machine is lot more old than hardy
[12:57] <petoo> need one mre suggestion , which one is lighter and still good for big projects
[12:57] <petoo> ?
[12:59] <OerHeks> petoo, i think you cannot install any software, because 8.04 is EOL, no updates or repository's available anymore.
[13:01] <petoo> I installed git a few days back
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> petoo  what OerHeks says, 8.0
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> petoo  what OerHeks says, 8.04 is dead
[13:01] <petoo> may all of those aren't updated , yes you're right
[13:01] <petoo> be*
[13:02] <Griffrez> Hello.
[13:02] <KM0201> if you're machine can't run ubuntu 12.04, install one of the lighter alternatives (lubuntu or xubuntu)
[13:02] <OerHeks> hi Griffrez
[13:03] <Griffrez> Just a quick question. On the Ubuntu's website, when I get the choice to choose between the x86 and x64 architectures, (32 and 64 bits), it recommends me the 32 bits one, even though I got 4GB of RAM.
[13:03] <Griffrez> The question is, should I get the 32 bits version, either way?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> petoo: install Precise but install Xubuntu 12.04 and it will run just fine. It is also LTS so is supported all the way up until 2017
[13:03] <cirustus> what is your chip 64 bit or 32 bit
[13:03] <petoo> ok , can a 1 gig ram , 1.8ghz machine run ubuntu  10.** ?
[13:03] <Griffrez> 64 bits.
[13:04] <OerHeks> Griffrez, if you have a 64 bit cpu + 4 gb, go for 64 bit!
[13:04] <Griffrez> I'm running 64 bits Windows 7, right now.
[13:04] <cirustus> then install the 64 bit version
[13:04] <Griffrez> Okay.
[13:04] <OerHeks> petoo sure.
[13:04] <Griffrez> I thought the same.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez: use 64bit, it'll give easier upgrades later :)
[13:04] <Griffrez> I just was a bit unsure.
[13:04] <chu> petoo: You could be running 12.04 too
[13:04] <Griffrez> :P
[13:04] <Griffrez> Okay.
[13:04] <chu> !minimal ! petoo
[13:04] <FloodBot1> Griffrez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> petoo  10.04 is still supported
[13:04] <cirustus> it will utilise you cpu to its full potential
[13:04] <KM0201> petan: 1gig of ram, I'd go Lubuntu...
[13:04] <Griffrez> Thanks.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> petoo: that system is better than anything I have
[13:04] <chu> !minimal | petoo
[13:04] <Griffrez> I'm not flooding. o.o I am... but accidently. :P
[13:05] <petoo> no you aren't :D
[13:05] <LjL> Griffrez: don't worry about it too much, just be easy on the Enter key
[13:05] <Griffrez> Yeah. The problem is that I sometimes have the tendency to do small sentences. :P
[13:06] <petoo> i want new OS ,, xubuntu 12.04
[13:06] <Griffrez> And make a separate entry for a face expression. xD
[13:06] <petoo> let's see if it works
[13:06] <Griffrez> Weird
[13:06] <Griffrez> I'm not downloading at full speed.
[13:06] <Griffrez> Maybe someone is using my internet. xD
[13:07] <Griffrez> Anyway, I might have more technical issues once I am done installing.
[13:07] <Griffrez> And I'll return here for so.
[13:07] <cirustus> no probs
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez: try using torrents
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> petoo: should be fine, its light and fast :)
[13:08] <cirustus> does ubuntu 12.04 take advantage of the i7 cpu?
[13:09] <Saiki> anyone know how to fix this error, or could point me in the right direction": java.lang.SecurityException: Servlet of class org.apache.catalina.servlets.CGIServlet is privileged and cannot be loaded by this web application
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> cirustus: yes
[13:09] <canis_> Has anyone gotten the 3rd gen drivers for the wacom bamboo series (gen III) into an install package somewhere yet?  These multi step processes aren't working for me.  I'm using mint 12, but will give ubuntu 12.04 a shot if the answer is yes.
[13:10] <dekker3d> Hey. I have returned. Still with the same problems... Ubuntu launches its recovery console thing the moment it starts, without even asking me if I want that, and the console is irresponsive.
[13:10] <dekker3d> Perhaps someone can tell me how to disable autologin from the console, that would help a lot I think.
[13:12] <Cottus> dekker3d, have you tryed other options in the boot menu?
[13:12] <Griffrez> ActionParsnip: Too late. I'm already half way through the HTTP download. And I think it has to do with the fact that someone might be using my bandwidth, in the house.
[13:12] <dekker3d> I have tried the recovery mode option, Cottus. That's about it.
[13:12] <Cottus> dekker3d, are the others functional?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez: torrents will be faster and more reliable, also you can pause and resume them
[13:13] <dekker3d> Nop. Except the Windows boot option, but yeah.... I kinda want my Linux to work too
[13:13] <Griffrez> I know
[13:13] <Griffrez> I use torrents.
[13:13] <Griffrez> But, it's a bit irrelevant, now that I'm already half way. I'd be just wasting time.
[13:13] <dekker3d> And I didn't bother trying the memtest boot options since those seem irrelevant :P So really, I only tried Ubuntu and Ubuntu (recovery mode)
[13:15] <Saiki> also this error?: SEVERE: Creation of the naming context failed: javax.naming.NamingException: Context is read only
[13:15] <Griffrez> I have the intention of using Java for gaming (Minecraft-related stuff, mostly). In your opinion, what is the most reliable and most well performing alternative, open source or closed source runtime? On Ubuntu, that is.
[13:15] <dekker3d> Cottus: I should say though, that before I chose the recovery console I could at least log into an only-moderately-messed-up unity or gnome-classic. Now I don't get that option anymore
[13:15] <dekker3d> I think if I can disable autologin, I can at least get to unity again
[13:18] <dekker3d> Gotta shutdown and do something, back soon again
[13:19] <jiltdil> shell script  channel
[13:19] <chu> jiltdil: Possibly #bash
[13:23] <Saiki> is there a java help channel?
[13:23] <petoo> Saiki: #java
[13:24] <Saiki> petoo: I shoulda figured that one lol
[13:24] <petoo> :D
[13:25] <shaneo> hey guys after a fresh install all my applications show icons in the panel is there anyway to make them not show the icons
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: in unity, that's how you manage running apps
[13:26] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok well for example xchat has an icon how do i get it to only show in the messaging menu?
[13:27] <shaneo> as well as thunderbird
[13:27] <shaneo> they never did this before only after the fresh install
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: thunderbird has a systemtray addon I believe, xchat may have a setting. I don't use either app tbh
[13:29] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok thanks ill look around
[13:29] <krababbel> Hi, I have an USB mouse and I wanted to change the button mapping. Is there a way to assign a static xinput id for it? Also my setup worked for some days and now the driver seems to have changed behaviour, and broke the mapping setup. I guess I can't do anything about that?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> shaneo: another xchat user may be able to advise
[13:30] <shaneo> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[13:30] <shaneo> Any xchat users ?
[13:30] <Saiki> shaneo: what icon are you refering to>
[13:30] <meisth0th> hello
[13:30] <shaneo> Saiki, the xchat icon i want it to minimize to message menu but it shows icon on panel instead
[13:31] <shaneo> Saiki, its also in messaging menu
[13:31] <meisth0th> i've made an application and i want to make it available on launchpad, can you please help me?
[13:31] <Saiki> shaneo: you mean to taskbar?
[13:31] <shaneo> Saiki, :) yes
[13:31] <Melampo_> Hi!
[13:31] <Saiki> shaneo: that should eb in general preferences somewhere
[13:31] <Saiki> shaneo: moment, I'll grab the windows one
[13:32] <shaneo> Saiki, yes theres an option to hide the icon but it doesnt close to the messaging menu it just quits
[13:32] <Melampo_> Can I ask you guys a question or are you busy?
[13:32] <cirustus> go for it
[13:32] <shaneo> my previous install did it differently when i closed the app it minimized the the message menu
[13:33] <Saiki> shaneo: patience please?
[13:33] <shaneo> Saiki, sorry missed that message thanks
[13:33] <Melampo_> I'd like to change Firefox tmp directory in order to put it in the RAM
[13:33] <Saiki> shaneo: I haven't used x-chat in a while
[13:34] <shaneo> Saiki, its ok thanks for the help either way
[13:34] <Saiki> shaneo: just installing it now
[13:34] <meisth0th> anybody?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> meisth0th:
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Melampo_:
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> jees
[13:34] <shaneo> Saiki, ok no rush
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> http://www.linuxreaders.com/2011/01/firefox-chrome-cache-on-ram-drive-fedora-ubuntu.html
[13:35] <cirustus> ok action beat me to it
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Melampo_: may need to make an alias. I used the 'or' method for chrome, works well
[13:35] <Melampo_> That's some confusing guide
[13:35] <Melampo_> is this good? http://www.fewt.com/2010/07/move-your-logs-and-temp-files-to-ram.html
[13:36] <Melampo_> It involves editing my FSTAB file
[13:36] <canis_> Is there a way, once done testing 12.04 from a usb and having everything the way I want it, to transfer the install to a hard drive for use on a pc?
[13:38] <Saiki> shaneo: you see the system icon option?
[13:39] <Saiki> shaneo: catting > alerts
[13:40] <shaneo> Saiki, yes but unchecking it than closing it wont put it in the message menu it just closes
[13:40] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: just an fyi. Psytrac is me, testing something on X-chat
[13:41] <Saiki> shaneo: ou can minimize it
[13:41] <Saiki> shaneo: when you minimize it it goest to system tray, and not taskbar
[13:42] <shaneo> Saiki, it minimizes to the system tray icon and messaging menu
[13:43] <Saiki> shaneo: show me a picture of what you're refering to please?
[13:43] <shaneo> Saiki, ok 1 sec
[13:45] <rhumbot> hi all. im new to ubuntu and would like to install a library from this website: http://jump.to/fleury - how can i do this?
[13:46] <shaneo> Saiki, sorry it wont let me screnshot with the messaging menu open :(
[13:46] <shaneo> *screenshot
[13:47] <wakeup> hello
[13:48] <wakeup> I seem to have accidentally removed the networking modules or something on a lucid box
[13:48] <wakeup> any ideas how I can find out whats missing, or can give an overview of the network toolchain?
[13:50] <NurseDad> i find it hard to understand why Ubuntu continues to have these wifi connection problems. Fix it!
[13:50] <compdoc> yeah, I see lots of ppl having issues that way
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> NurseDad: never had a single wifi issue
[13:52] <x1k> wakeup: i sent you a msg to help with your wireless issue, have you received it?
[13:52] <NurseDad> ActionParsnip: many are, I have used Ubuntu since 2004 or when ever it came out can't remember
[13:53] <magpie> dead silence?
[13:53] <x1k> NurseDad: i think it has to do with the usage of ndiswrapper to install many windows drivers... the package in Software Center makes is crazy easy though.
[13:54] <NurseDad> x1k; what package in SC?
[13:55] <x1k> ndiswrapper
[13:55] <NurseDad> x1k: i have never installed that in all the years i hsve used Ubuntu
[13:56] <x1k> NurseDad: it's called Windows Wireless Drivers in the SC.. a lot of wifi cards rely on proprietary windows drivers, and ndiswrapper handles that
[13:56] <Aster> Are there any programs like htop, but that only monitor one process?
[13:57] <x1k> NurseDad: all you have to do is provide the .inf driver file that would be used to install the driver on windows
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> NurseDad: what wifi chip do you use?
[13:58] <NurseDad> x1k: I have no idea what chip, I know where to go to find it. But that is not the point the avg user that is considering switching from windows will not do that
[13:58] <MissVera> I have had the same exact issues whether im trying to install Ubuntu, or Xubuntu (and various flavors of it), And someone had recommended memtest.org to see if my RAM was malfunctioning or something? But I dont understand how to put it on a flash drive or how to use it period. Could anyone help me?
[13:59] <jiohdi> Aster, you can f3 and highlight the process, then make the window small so you only see it
[14:00] <Aster> Maybe.
[14:00] <x1k> Aster: i think 'atop' can focus on singular processes
[14:00] <x1k> may be an alternative
[14:01] <x1k> wakeup: you get your wireless issue resolve?
[14:01] <compdoc> MissVera, memtest86+ comes on the Ubuntu install cd
[14:01] <compdoc> or you can download it from memtest.org
[14:02] <radioactif> hello
[14:02] <Saiki> anyone know where java is installed by default on ubuntu server 12.04?
[14:03] <compdoc> Saiki, Im not sure it is installed by default
[14:03] <radioactif> is there some one  who would help me plz ? this s my 1st day with linux ^^"
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: by default I doubt it, you can check packages.ubuntu.com. I have a PPA for 1.7 oracle java if you want
[14:04] <NurseDad> radioactif: just ask your question
[14:04] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I mean where the java packages install
[14:05] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I think I have a permissions issue for tomcat with java
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: all you need to use is the java command, it's all handled for you
[14:06] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: java.lang.SecurityException: Servlet of class org.apache.catalina.servlets.CGIServlet is privileged and cannot be loaded by this web application
[14:06] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: is this handled by tomcat, or java?
[14:07] <MissVera> compdoc, when i try to run it from the install cd, it tells me, "cannot load  ramdisk with an old kernel image"
[14:07] <compdoc> MissVera, you created the install cd? or is it a usb stick?
[14:07] <MissVera> usb
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: not sure, you could ask in the tomcat channel maybe to verify
[14:08] <compdoc> MissVera, do you ever open your computer?
[14:08] <Sprocks> how do i list all things installed using apt-get?
[14:08] <MissVera> Its not mine, but to my knowledge, they havent.. ?
[14:08] <netraameht> Hello
[14:08] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: tomcat channel is dead as dust
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Sprocks: history | grep apt-get | egrep -v remove
[14:09] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I have been asking in there for a few days lol
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Sprocks  try dpkg -l| grep ii
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: good to try ;)
[14:09] <netraameht> Can somebody help me? I cannot connect with the wired connection
[14:09] <compdoc> MissVera, ok. well, memtest86+ is the easiest way to diagnose
[14:09] <compdoc> MissVera, it does not tell you everything, but its a good start
[14:10] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: have been for a few days lol
[14:10] <netraameht> Can somebody help me? I cannot connect with the wired connection
[14:10] <Erealz> netraameht, did you restart your router
[14:10] <cirustus> ActionParsnip, i did the updates and it still wont do server 2008
[14:10] <Erealz> and reboot your machine
[14:10] <compdoc> MissVera, whoever created the usb stick shouls also create a usb stick containing memtest86+ and boot from it
[14:10] <netraameht> Erealz, let me try
[14:10] <MissVera> compdoc, I downloaded it, and don't know how to use it. I tried putting it on a usb, but when i boot from it, it just tells me i dont have an OS installed, so im assuming i've done something wrong. My hardware/software know how is very limited.
[14:11] <javaquestion> Hello, I have a question about java -- someone is going to help teach me, but I have to install Jampack to my CLASSPATH -- which I don't know where it is. Where is the java classpath by default? I found this thread, but it didn't seem to help me... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331452
[14:11] <Erealz> netraameht, i had the same kinda problem or at least i thought after takeing the power plug out of both router and pc the light of the ethernet wire finally came on
[14:11] <compdoc> MissVera, it comes compressed, so it has to be uncompressed first. then, you use a program like unetbootin to create the usb booter
[14:11] <MissVera> compdoc, I had used unetbootin, to make all the live cd/usbs. Lubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu. All fail.
[14:12] <MissVera> compdoc. I did that. ol.
[14:12] <Erealz> witch was weird when it problem started i got a new router
[14:12] <compdoc> something is wrong - maybe the usb stick is damaged, or, you do have bad ram in that pc. use another pc to create
[14:13] <blotek> Erealz, never heard of "ifup" "ifdown" commands?
[14:13] <Erealz> blotek
[14:13] <Erealz> no
[14:13] <Erealz> oh wait
[14:13] <Erealz> yes
[14:13] <Erealz> n
[14:13] <Erealz> no
[14:13] <FloodBot1> Erealz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <Erealz> they
[14:14] <Erealz> didnt work
[14:14] <blotek> :D
[14:14] <Eisenhorn> Guys, I got an issue with either OpenSUSE or grub. I recently installed OpenSUSE on my laptop, found out I didn't like it and now I want to go back to Ubuntu
[14:14] <Erealz> you have to reset the power sometimes
[14:14] <MissVera> compdoc, I've alternated 3 different flash drives. And I'm using my laptop to make the bootups. My laptop is new and runs peachy.
[14:14] <netraameht_> Erealz, it says Device not managed in the dropdown menu
[14:14] <javaquestion> does anybody know where to get help with Java on ubuntu?
[14:14] <Eisenhorn> I created an USB boot drive and tested it on my desktop to see if it's bootable
[14:15] <Eisenhorn> Now, if I'm on my laptop and I say I want to boot from usb
[14:15] <compdoc> MissVera, the pc your testing might need to be set to boot from the usb
[14:15] <compdoc> youre
[14:15] <Eisenhorn> it just says screw you and continues booting to grub
[14:15] <Erealz> ifconfig
[14:15] <Erealz> what the output
[14:15] <zykotick9> netraameht_: if you have something configured in /etc/network/interfaces then NetworkManager gives the "not managed" message.
[14:15] <compdoc> MissVera, the pc youre testing does not have a cd drive?
[14:15] <Erealz> remember to unplug everything modem router and pc
[14:15] <MissVera> compdoc, I select that from the beginning. Which is how I've "tested" the memory, and the different OS' to see how they run.
[14:16] <netraameht_> zykotick9 what can I do now?
[14:16] <radu> i have a question about ubuntu 12.04...tried to install in dual boot with win 7...i installed ubuntu 12.04 on an external hard drive, the instalation worked fine but  when i rebooted the screen became black, coputer freeze...i tried to press alt ctrl del.nothing works
[14:16] <Eisenhorn> anyone familair with it perhaps?
[14:16] <blotek> radu, google "grub manual"
[14:16] <MissVera> compdoc, It does have a cd drive, It just never seems to install well from the cd.... and i got tired of wasting cd's with failed writes and my own various screw ups. the flash drive seemed like a better idea.
[14:17] <zykotick9> netraameht_: ? i haven't been following your issue - just saw your "not managed" statement.  remove the settings for the device in /etc/network/interfaces will allow N-M to use the device.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> radu: what gpu do you use?
[14:17] <kiamo> what's the apt-get command to install the current ati drivers?
[14:17] <kiamo> like apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:17] <ivanco> Hey guys I need help  with Ubuntu studio
[14:17] <radu> i have nvidia optimus on my laptop but ubuntu 10.10 worked with it
[14:18] <petoo> Hey , want to know a thing , if use minimal install for further installation it needs Internet connection, I use USB wireless dongle to connect to Internet , is it still possible for me to complete installation?
[14:18] <ivanco> I've installed Ubuntu Studio but appears like its basic normal Ubuntu
[14:18] <compdoc> MissVera, well this is an impasse. Maybe a friend or a shop can create a cd or usb stick for you
[14:18] <ivanco> without studio applications
[14:19] <zykotick9> petoo: 1) your wireless would need to be supported in mini (many aren't) & 2) you "might" only be able to connect to open or WEP (ie no WPA) networks
[14:19] <Eisenhorn> Guys, I've installed OpenSUSE a few days back. I didn't like it and wanted to go back. Now I created an bootable ubuntu 12.04 flashdisk and tested it on my homepc to check if it works, which it does. However, when I try to boot from it on my laptop it just continues to the OpenSUSE/grub screen. Is it possible it's interfering somehow?
[14:19] <MissVera> compdoc, its not the creating thats the issue. Its the hardware in the other Computer thats the issue. Anyway. All im trying to figure out, is how to get that memtest thing onto a flash drive, or which one im supposed to download
[14:19] <mz|`> Eisenhorn: modify your bios settings to boot on usb
[14:20] <compdoc> MissVera, oh, I didnt think - you can boot the usb stick on your laptop?
[14:20] <Eisenhorn> I chose that
[14:20] <Eisenhorn> I press F12 then boot from USB
[14:20] <Eisenhorn> choose*
[14:20] <mz|`> tried all usb ports ?
[14:20] <Eisenhorn> There's only 2 on them, but yes
[14:20] <Eisenhorn> The weird thing is, it works on my desktop so I'm 100% it isn't the USB stick
[14:20] <IdleOne> MissVera: make an Ubuntu Live USB. memtest is included on it.
[14:21] <Eisenhorn> Hence my question, is it possible for OpenSUSE to somehow interfere with booting from USB?
[14:21] <Eisenhorn> or grub
[14:21] <MissVera> compdoc, I dont know about the memtest program, but all the other .... I dont know if im not explaining myself well or not.  I Need the program from memtest.org on a flash drive, to see if the memory in Another computer is bad, which is why all these installs keep screwing up.
[14:21] <compdoc> MissVera, this is a tutorial to create a usb stick with memtest:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaHL9usaM4Q
[14:22] <cirustus> ActionParsnip, i still cant access server 2008 i can get into windows 7 though
[14:22] <MissVera> IdleOne. Ive done that. which i already said.  [09:06] <MissVera> compdoc, when i try to run it from the install cd, it tells me, "cannot load  ramdisk with an old kernel image"
[14:22] <compdoc> MissVera, if you create it porperly, you can boot your laptop with it, so thats the best way to test the usb
[14:22] <netraameht> zykotick9 its working!
[14:22] <blotek> cirustus, can u access windows server from w7 ?
[14:23] <cirustus> its not in the boot loader but was before i installed ubuntu
[14:23] <compdoc> MissVera, hmm, that video may not be the best example - but there may be others
[14:23] <MissVera> compdoc, I have windows on my laptop, and the tutorial is in....   lol
[14:23] <zykotick9> netraameht: nice
[14:24] <compdoc> oh good
[14:24] <cirustus> blotek, i install win 7 first then server 2008 and could dual boot them
[14:24] <blotek> cirustus, but i asked if u can access windows server from windows 7 install
[14:24] <cirustus> blotek, yes i can see the partition on wich its installed and view the files
[14:25] <theoldmonk> hello ................NEED INFORMATION
[14:25] <theoldmonk> Scenario:
[14:25] <theoldmonk> Have Ubuntu server 11.04/ 64 bit, need to make it storage which stores .vdi's or vmdk's containing bootable OS.
[14:25] <theoldmonk> Those vdi's/vmdk's should be booted using ISCSI over the diskless physical machine may be via pxe, dont know how.
[14:25] <FloodBot1> theoldmonk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <Eisenhorn> Is it allowed to repeat your question if it isn't fixed?
[14:25] <Eisenhorn> or answered
[14:25] <compdoc> sure
[14:25] <blotek> cirustus, well i asked cuz i thought windows 7 is another pc and could be rejected by windows server somehow (ip filter etc)
[14:25] <Eisenhorn> Guys, I've installed OpenSUSE a few days back. I didn't like it and wanted to go back. Now I created an bootable ubuntu 12.04 flashdisk and tested it on my homepc to check if it works, which it does. However, when I try to boot from it on my laptop it just continues to the OpenSUSE/grub screen. Is it possible it's interfering somehow?
[14:25] <gopostal> is there any app for ubuntu for coding live with multiple users in one file? (at the same time)
[14:26] <Eisenhorn> and yes, I'm booting from USB via the boot menu
[14:26] <cirustus> blotek, no im making a tripple boot pc for my I.T studies
[14:26] <theoldmonk> ok
[14:26] <compdoc> Eisenhorn, you have to tell the bios which devices to boot first. the boot order
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Eisenhorn, does your laptop bios allow booting from a USB ?
[14:26] <Eisenhorn> I know, I'm choosing to boot from USB via the bootloader
[14:26] <blotek> cirustus, try to get manually by typing smb:\\windowsservername
[14:26] <Eisenhorn> Yes, BluesKaj, I had to do the exact same thing to install OpenSUSE in the first place
[14:26] <blotek> in thunar/nautilus or whatever u use
[14:27] <compdoc> Eisenhorn, once the boot loader is running, its too late
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Eisenhorn, ok
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Eisenhorn: press F11 at boot, works on most PCs
[14:27] <Eisenhorn> It's F12
[14:27] <Eisenhorn> on my laptop
[14:27] <cirustus> blotek, im meaning all 3 os are on the 1 hdd
[14:27] <Eisenhorn> Yes, I know, compdoc
[14:27] <blotek> cirustus, wtf does that have to do with your samba problem :>
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Eisenhorn: ok, it does vary, should bring up a boot selection menu
[14:27] <Eisenhorn> Before I even see the whole grub/OpenSUSE boot thingey
[14:27] <Eisenhorn> I press F12 and I get like 4 options to boot from
[14:28] <compdoc> Eisenhorn, I misunderstood
[14:28] <david7712> hi
[14:28] <Eisenhorn> I select the USB (Tested it on my desktop and it works and boots into the ubuntu live cd/install thingey)
[14:28] <cirustus> blotek, i dont have a samba problem im having problem with booting into windows server 2008 since installing ubuntu 12.04
[14:28] <Eisenhorn> and then it just blatantly ignores it
[14:28] <Eisenhorn> and continue booting as usual
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Eisenhorn: tried a different usb port?
[14:28] <Eisenhorn> There are 2 and I've tried 'm both
[14:28] <UndiFineD> cirustus, I think you would have more benefit of installing virtualbox or something alike, so you can use them all simultaneous
[14:29] <cirustus> UndiFineD, thats true but i know i have had it working before but since i tried it on my laptop it seems to be mission impossible
[14:30] <compdoc> Eisenhorn, might try loading the stand-alone Gparted on the usb stick, then deleting the OpenSUSE partitions, then go back to loading ubuntu
[14:30] <BluesKaj> cirustus, have you run sudo update-grub ? I assume the windows server is on the same pc ?
[14:30] <blotek> cirustus, then update grub menu
[14:30] <cirustus> BluesKaj, ill do that and how do i update the grub menu
[14:31] <Eisenhorn> I'm not sure what you mean compdoc
[14:31] <BluesKaj> cirustus, open the console , sudo update-grub
[14:31] <skumara>  /msg NickServ identify stpm99
[14:31] <skumara> damn
[14:31] <Eisenhorn> I created the bootable USB stick on my windows machine
[14:32] <BluesKaj> cirustus, your windows install should be listed in the output
[14:32] <theoldmonk> need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079770/
[14:32] <cirustus> BluesKaj, only show win 7 loader and win recovery
[14:33] <BluesKaj> win 7 loader is good
[14:33] <cirustus> but when i use loader i dont get the option to select win 7 or server 2008 like i did before
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> skumara: time for a password reset :)
[14:34] <skumara> how to reset password?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> cirustus, ok use windows recovery , and run fixmbr
[14:35] <cirustus> BluesKaj, im about to do that will let you know if it fixed my problem
[14:35] <pythonirc101> When I kill a process, it becomes defunct. Any ideas how to kill it completely? I'm using SIGKILL
[14:35] <BluesKaj> BBL.... stuff to for a couple of hrs
[14:36] <theoldmonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079770/
[14:37] <kiamo> so, kde or gnome?  does it really matter at the end of the day..?
[14:40] <theding0> I'm not really sure if this is where I should go, but I need some help
[14:40] <i7c> kiamo: is this a question? :D
[14:40] <i7c> theding0: if it's ubuntu related, go ahead
[14:41] <kiamo> I know it's subjective, I just wanted to hear peoples opinions :)
[14:41] <arian> does sudo at 11:00 work?
[14:41] <oCean> kiamo: this is not the right channel for that. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or even #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu specific topics
[14:42] <i7c> kiamo: kde seems windows-alike while gnome has its own concept. i'd prefer gnome over kde but i use xfce ;)
[14:42] <theding0> I own a K50IJ Asus notebook. Originally it was a Windows 7 PC, but when it stopped working I just loaded Ubuntu and formatted my hd. I'm wanting to flash my BIOS but when I try and find the utility for my motherboard, it doesn't show Linux as an operating system to download utilities. Is it possible to flash my BIOS running Ubuntu or am I out of luck?
[14:42] <arian_> what is the best ide for python?
[14:42] <oCean> !best
[14:43] <kiamo> ooo ok :)
[14:43] <chu> !ide
[14:43] <zykotick9> theding0: see if you BIOS has EasyFlash (or similar name) - it allows updating FROM Bios (no OS required)
[14:45] <theding0> zykotick9, I don't know if i need a certain utility for what I'm trying to do. I'm just tinkering with my laptop and wanting to change the BIOS splash. Would EasyFlash allow me to do that?
[14:45] <Achillion> Hey all. Im trying to install 12.04 on a softwqre raid stripe. I created the stripe using mdadm as /dev/md0 and I can see it in the partition manager of the installer, but I can onle create one partition on it and then "add" becomes greyed out. Am I doing something wrong?
[14:45] <zykotick9> theding0: i wouldn't know.  good luck.
[14:46] <theoldmonk> can any one please help with?     Scenario:
[14:46] <theoldmonk> Have Ubuntu server 11.04/ 64 bit, need to make it storage which stores .vdi's or vmdk's containing bootable OS.
[14:46] <theoldmonk> Those vdi's/vmdk's should be booted using ISCSI over the diskless physical machine may be via pxe, dont know how
[14:47] <ngomes> anyone used w_scan with dvb-t ?
[14:48] <theding0> zykotick9, Ok one last question. I ran dmidecode and it says the BIOS is upgradeable. Does that mean I would have something similar to EasyFlash or do I need to go into the BIOS to see that?
[14:49] <MissVera> compdoc, I finally got it running.  Does it just shut off on its own eventually? I mean... What am I learning from this?
[14:49] <compdoc> MissVera, you let it run as many passes as possible. overnight is really great
[14:50] <theding0> Or does anyone know of another room that would be able to help me further?
[14:50] <compdoc> if you have bad ram, it will show
[14:50] <shaneo> is there much of a difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[14:50] <theoldmonk> am I asking help at wrong place?
[14:50] <shaneo> theoldmonk, try ##networking
[14:51] <theoldmonk> thanks shaneo... tc
[14:51] <theding0> Anyone? I don't know my way around Freenode
[14:51] <MissVera> compdoc, this is an older computer, doing this wont overclock it and oh, i dont know, make their computer spontaneously combust, will it?
[14:52] <compdoc> MissVera, nope, its just writing patterns to ram, then readin them back
[14:52] <compdoc> if any ram locations are bad, they wont come back the same value
[14:53] <MissVera> That,I .. dont understand
[14:53] <reonfus> [i'm in ubuntu] i'm trying to install some tar.gz. I unpacked it. When i'm using command ./conigure it tell "configure: error: no C# compiler found"
[14:53] <Achillion> reonfus: install gcc
[14:53] <compdoc> MissVera, no need to understand - its just testing, and will pop up red stuff if the ram is bad
[14:53] <compdoc> red warnings
[14:53] <oCean> !compiling | reonfus
[14:53] <Achillion> reonfus: better yet, install the build_essential metapackage
[14:54] <reonfus> achillion: what gcc is?
[14:54] <MissVera> compdoc.  :) Red stuff. lol. Thank you.
[14:54] <const_antine> hi, question: does anyone know of an electronic circuit simulation software for Ubuntu?
[14:54] <Achillion> reonfus: oh wait, you said c#. read what ubottu liked
[14:54] <zykotick9> !info build-essential | reonfus a good starting point
[14:54] <Achillion> linked*
[14:55] <MissVera> compdoc,one last question. Can I just leave it for a few hours then? And then if theres an issue, the warning will be there when i get back?
[14:55] <itachi> how to view cdfs file system that comes in usb modems
[14:55] <compdoc> MissVera, in the upper left area of the screen, it show speeds for L1 and L2 cache. what speed is it listing for main memory? its in MB/s
[14:56] <compdoc> MissVera, yes, just leave it running until youve had enough
[14:57] <MissVera> compdoc, by main memory, do you mean where it says memory, BELOW L1 and L2 cache? If so, Memory is at 460 mb/s   the cache's are higher though...
[14:57] <Achillion> No help on the software raid?
[14:58] <reonfus> thank you for advices. im newbie in ubuntu so first i will read abut biuil-essentials
[14:58] <compdoc> MissVera, 460 mb/s ? thats horribly slow. modern computers read 4000 to 16000 MB/s
[14:58] <compdoc> MissVera, thats a really old PC
 how to view cdfs that comes in usb modem
[14:59] <compdoc> itachi, sorry, I have no idea. try a windows computer?
[14:59] <zykotick9> reonfus: fyi - you really shouldn't be installing stuff from source (if you can avoid it... it can lead to issues very quickly)
 in windows it works and shows as CDFS, but in Linux, it does not read the contents of usb modem...
[15:00] <MissVera> compdoc, L1 cache is at 11903 MB/s, L2 cache is 3794 mb/s, and then below it, Memory, is 460 mb/s.   But, I had pulled the specs from windows before i reformatted it, and it said it had a gig and a half of ram?
[15:01] <compdoc> MissVera, those are just the speeds, not the amount
[15:02] <compdoc> the amount is listed tho
[15:02] <compdoc> look around
[15:02] <reonfus> zykotick9: im just trying to install incollector. main page of this program is down http://www.incollector.devnull.pl/. So i found only tar.gz file in Internet. i need this program as hell ;)
[15:03] <MissVera> compdoc, the thing isn't ancient, it was running xp just fine.so... if im not getting errors, i dont see how memory is the issue with trying to install ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, etc.
[15:03] <Achillion> Oooooh, boot partition can't be on the raid!
[15:04] <Achillion> Silly me
[15:04] <compdoc> MissVera, if there is a bad memory location, it corrupts programs and the operating system. Causing crashes, freezes, reboots
[15:05] <MissVera> compdoc, are you saying, just keep waitting to see if i get an error?
[15:05] <compdoc> MissVera, however, since you had so many issues getting memtest running, maybe its not ram at all. but its very good to know if there is a problem with ram
[15:05] <reonfus> ubottu: ok i have just install build essential. what should i do next?
[15:05] <compdoc> MissVera, let it complete a couple of passes, and yes, just wait
[15:06] <compdoc> there is a count for passes there. shoudl show 0 right now, or manybe 1
[15:06] <dayam22> hey there...total noob, got questions
[15:06] <compdoc> maybe
[15:06] <MissVera> compdoc. i had issues because my friends a jerk and told me to download the wrong file >.>  I paid attention to the page and realized i had the wrong one, which was why i couldnt get it to boot from the usb
[15:07] <compdoc> MissVera, so you think the PC is ok? you might well let it complete one pass since youre doing it
[15:07] <compdoc> as well
[15:07] <MissVera> compdoc, unless you mean, I could never get it running from any of the live cd's for an "outdated kernel"reason... whatever that was all about
[15:07] <dayam22> got an online class and have to download the iso and create a boot disc or USB drive to check out the OS...
[15:07] <compdoc> MissVera, yes, that. at least thats what I saw
[15:07] <cogster> ~_~
[15:07] <compdoc> are there other issues?
[15:08] <dayam22> ok....here's my deal.  My 'net speed @ home is dismal and it's taking forever to download the iso....any suggestions on how to get it any quicker?  LOL, sorry to ask such a dim question but I have to dl it by today
[15:08] <MissVera> oh yes
[15:08] <compdoc> MissVera, by the way, 460 mb/s is very very slow
[15:08] <MissVera> I dont know enough about hardware to know what is fast or slow, or how to change it.
[15:09] <dayam22> i've got the iso queued in my dls but it's just going to take forever if it doesn't just time out
[15:09] <Achillion> dayam: are you getting less than your max bandwidth?
[15:09] <thiebaude> dayam22: i dont know how much faster, but i you tried open dns?
[15:09] <recon_lap>            dayam22 : go to a internet cafe, you be able to get it quicker
[15:09] <thiebaude> have tried
[15:09] <MissVera> dayam22, sometimes different mirrors take less time  :x  My only advice.
[15:09] <Dr_willis> torrents would give the fasterst download speeds i find.
[15:10] <Achillion> dayam22: also try a torrent
[15:10] <thiebaude> Dr_willis: thats true
[15:10] <Achillion> dayam22: linu isos are usually very well shared on torrents
[15:10] <compdoc> MissVera, cannot be changed without buying a new computer, basically. just dont expect it to run fast
[15:10] <thiebaude> or a server that is closet to your home
[15:10] <dayam22> not an avid user of torrents to even know what i'm doing, jeez i feel like a tech101 person.  promise i'm not
[15:11] <Dr_willis> download torrent app.. find torrent file.. let it download...
[15:11] <Achillion> dayam22: Download utorrent if you dont have it and just add the ubuntu torrent
[15:11] <Dr_willis> some browsers even come with torrent features ;) Opera does i belive
[15:11] <MissVera> compdoc, I didnt. Which is why I've been trying my hardest to get Xubuntu to work. It doesnt need to do anything intensive though. Its for a group of kids. All they need it for is school projects, web browsing, and skype or some other type of video chat.
[15:12] <compdoc> MissVera, good, its perfect for that
[15:13] <Achillion> dayam22: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:13] <Junix> ™™™™™™™™™™ Ciao a tutti ™™™™™™™™™™
[15:13] <Junix> hy
[15:13] <Saiki> is there some reason ubuntu slows down after hitting 11gb of ram used?
[15:14] <eXp`iRc|4666> hello
[15:14] <Junix> someone help me ?
[15:14] <recon_lap> Saiki: may because it's using to much ram
[15:14] <Achillion> lol
[15:14] <Dr_willis> Junix,  and the problem is?
[15:14] <eXp`iRc|4666> !list
[15:14] <Junix> backtrack there is live cd ? whitout install ?
[15:14] <bekks> Saiki: How much RAM do you have?
[15:14] <Junix> excuseme for my english
[15:14] <Saiki> recon_lap, bekks: should be 16gb
[15:14] <Dr_willis> Junix,  yes i think so.,.,and backtrack is not Ubuntu. It has its own support channels and web sites and forums
[15:15] <bekks> Saiki: "should"? how much is it in real?
[15:15] <Junix> there is download link please
[15:15] <thiebaude> Junix: maybe google it
[15:15] <Junix> version live cd or dvd
[15:15] <bekks> Saiki: "free -m" will show you.
[15:15] <Junix> i search but no have find
[15:15] <recon_lap> Saiki: you got a 32bit os or a 54bit os?
[15:15] <Junix> only fileserve... filesonic..
[15:16] <moljac024> how do i enable a service?
[15:16] <recon_lap> 64bit*
[15:16] <Achillion> Junix: Most linux install dvds are "live" by default. Don't know about backtrack though
[15:16] <moljac024> i cant find documentation anywhere
[15:16] <Saiki> bekks: Mem:         16020      11607       4413          0         25        988
[15:16] <Saiki> recon_lap: 64
[15:16] <moljac024> i found chkconfig but it is broken
[15:16] <moljac024> trying to enable a service with chkconfig i get /sbin/insserv: no such file or directory
[15:16] <compdoc> chkconfig has to be installed - its not on there by default
[15:16] <bekks> Saiki: You still have about 4GB free.
[15:16] <desti> hi, is it normal, that the live ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 detects only 1.9 gib ram of the 4 gib installed?
[15:16] <zykotick9> moljac024: chkconfig / rc-conf don't do upstart
[15:17] <Junix> i install for see big potenziality
[15:17] <Saiki> bekks: I'm aware of that, it's still running very slowly
[15:17] <bekks> desti: It detected 16GB here.
[15:17] <desti> hm
[15:17] <bekks> Saiki: It's not a memory issue.
[15:18] <recon_lap> Saiki: sry, but have nothing to add. think you'll have to do a lot of digging to identify your issue
[15:18] <Saiki> bekks: cpu then perhaps? 2.6 dual
[15:18] <Saiki> recon_lap: np, thought I'd ask, figured if there was some kind of but #ubuntu would know :)
[15:19] <moljac024> zykotick9: so how do i do upstart?
[15:19] <moljac024> specifically i want to enable network-manager service
[15:19] <moljac024> its not enabled by default, i used netinstall
[15:19] <zykotick9> moljac024: ? there is very little documentation (ubuntu users aren't expected to use services)
[15:19] <moljac024> lol so dont even provide documentation, right?
[15:19] <schnuffle1> moljac024: all config is done in /etc/init there should be a init file for network manager if you installed it
[15:19] <zykotick9> moljac024: if you install it - then it should autorun by default
[15:20] <recon_lap> Saiki:  you more likely to get an answer in ubuntu-dev, but you describing what is likely to be a very specific issue and hard to answer without real testing.
[15:21] <moljac024> zykotick9: it doesnt
[15:21] <schnuffle1> moljac024: and as far is I know the network manager is started during X login
[15:21] <moljac024> i have to enable it when i login with sudo service network-manager start
[15:21] <Saiki> recon_lap: true, I'm doing some tests right now
[15:21] <moljac024> schnuffle1: well it isnt, i login with lightdm and networkmanager isnt running
[15:21] <abbasba> http://www.nasrtv.com/uploads/video/flv/nasr_video_4ff7e820e007c.flv.flv
[15:21] <zykotick9> moljac024: check your /etc/network/interfaces, disable settings for eth0
[15:21] <schnuffle1> moljac024: Wait I check
[15:22] <schnuffle1> moljac024: you shoulld have a file /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[15:22] <moljac024> zykotick9: did that
[15:22] <moljac024> but didnt reboot
[15:22] <IdleOne> abbasba: what is that video?
[15:23] <zykotick9> moljac024: reboot or ifdown/ifup
[15:23] <recon_lap> saiki: what using all that memory?
[15:23] <schnuffle1> moljac024: it depends on dbus though
[15:23] <cajun> I'm attempting to scan my XP partition with Clam and it keeps crashing after only a few minutes of scanning. How can I check to see what's wrong? I've done the memtest which gave no errors.
[15:23] <cajun> I'm using 12.04.
[15:23] <ceed^> I'm having three packages, kernel, header and image kept back, but I do not understand why. Anyone know how I can find out?
[15:23] <Dr_willis> cajun,  clamav is crashign the whole system? it reboots or does what?
[15:23] <moljac024> k i will try to reboot now
[15:23] <moljac024> tnx guys
[15:23] <zykotick9> ceed^: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get new kernels
[15:23] <schnuffle1> cajun: have you checked if the harddrive is okay with fsck
[15:24] <dayam22> trying the opera route - utorrent didn't work because of permissions issue (haha, this is a work laptop)
[15:24] <cajun> It crashes the whole system. I have to turn it back on.
[15:24] <IdleOne> abbasba: Please do not post links that have nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[15:24] <ceed^> zykotick9: I tried that, but they are still being kept back
[15:25] <Dr_willis> cajun,  using the cli version of clamscan? or some gui tool?
[15:25] <cajun> schnuffle1, I haven't used fsck but I checked the smartdrive stats and it seemed fine.
[15:26] <cajun> well I installed the GUI but when I start it, there's an x next to the GUI Version 4.38. I just installed it.
[15:26] <schnuffle1> cajun: one reason could be a archive bomb but I'M not really familiar with clamav
[15:26] <cajun> ok. do you have another suggestion on scanning my Xp partition?
[15:26] <moljac024> hey rebooting fixed it, thanks
[15:27] <moljac024> i have on more question - i installed lightdm on top of the minimal system and it starts and works fine but it is ugly with the default gtk theme and black background - how can i theme it?
[15:27] <schnuffle1> cajun: use desinfeCT or the Microsoft liev Virus CD
[15:28] <cajun> ok.  thanks.
[15:28] <Junix> schnuffle can u help me ?
[15:29] <schnuffle1> Junix: ask and if anybody has knowledge you'll get an answer, and remember going private without asking is seen unpolite
[15:32] <arian> what is the best ide for python?
[15:33] <schnuffle1> arian: good question, GUI devel?
[15:33] <MechanisM> hello I'm installed some program to view pdf and don't liked it. after I'm uninstalled it, system don't have any program associated with pdf.
[15:33] <Fed44> in my /etc/networking/interfaces file I have the line "up route GATEWAY_IP dev eth0" but upon networking restart it is not added, has up/post-up been deprecated or is itrelated to something else? or is there an alternative
[15:33] <MechanisM> how to associate program to pdf? and what is default pdf viewer in ubuntu?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> MechanisM  try evince
[15:34] <Guest14411> what is the best ide for python?
[15:34] <MechanisM> thanxx
[15:34] <IdleOne> !ide | Guest14411
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest14411  'best' depends on your goals and skills
[15:34] <MechanisM> Guest14411 PyCharm
[15:34] <MechanisM> I'm python/django developer
[15:34] <IdleOne> Please stop asking which is the best. pick one, try it, decide yourself.
[15:35] <abimael> ayyy IdleOne, great answer
[15:35] <MechanisM> I'm using Sublime Text 2, but it's not IDE. If you want IDE then PyCharm is best out there
[15:35] <Guest14411> what is the best and userfriendlier ide for python
[15:35] <Guest14411> ?
[15:36] <MechanisM> PyCharm
[15:36] <IdleOne> !polls > Guest14411
[15:36] <MechanisM> or Aptana Studio 3 with PyDev
[15:37] <schnuffle1> MechanisM: There's http://pydev.org/manual_adv_django.html but I haven't used it. I use gedit and some cli tools for Django Dev
[15:37] <Junix> my ?
[15:38] <MechanisM> schnuffle1 I'm used gedit with some django-related plugins too. but now I'm on Sublime Text 2
[15:38] <Junix> ok i read
[15:38] <Junix> excuseme
[15:38] <arian_> what is userfriendlier ide for python?
[15:38] <abimael> 39
[15:38] <MechanisM> seems like bots?
[15:38] <MechanisM> asks IDE for python
[15:39] <Dr_willis> !ide
[15:39] <Dr_willis> :)
 for python and most user friendly is pycharm or pydev
[15:41] <IdleOne> MechanisM: You're not helping by answering polls that are clearly not what this channel is for.
[15:41] <Saiki> forcepart?
[15:42] <Arian--> what is the best ide for django?
[15:42] <IdleOne> Arian--: enough. you are wasting our time
 I didn't even noticed it was poll
[15:43] <MechanisM> Arian-- PyCharm
[15:43] <Arian--> thanks
[15:43] <IdleOne> most question with the words what is the best are considered to be polls. I can't tell you what the best is because it may be different for you then what it is for me.
[15:45] <Saiki> this may be server-dependant (as in the files I'm using, but I thought I'd ask if anyone knows any way to fix this: TRACE : gdelivery::matrixpasswd cache missing, user=****
[15:49] <yj> hello
[15:49] <yj> hi
[15:50] <Diran_Sky> hi i'm trying to upgrade but my update manager is throwing up loads of errors, it's being doing it for a while but i kinda ignored it
[15:51] <legolas> excuse me how  i can answer the questions on here?
[15:51] <Diran_Sky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079885/
[15:51] <yj> gge
[15:52] <yj> hello
[15:52] <ylmfos> hello
[15:52] <Murd0ck> Dood morning
[15:52] <Murd0ck> Good*
[15:52] <Diran_Sky> hi
[15:52] <Quantum_Ion> Gutentag
[15:52] <Murd0ck> what goes on in here?
[15:53] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, apt is not seeing the repositories
[15:53] <ylmfos> nice day isn"t?
[15:53] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, it seems to be trying to load from a cache or proxy
[15:53] <Diran_Sky> how do i change that compdoc?
[15:53] <Diran_Sky> i was mucking about with proxies a while ago
[15:54] <Diran_Sky> so probably my own error but i don't know how to fix it
[15:54] <Murd0ck> that would be my very firsrt Gutentag
[15:54] <Murd0ck> proxies are fun
[15:54] <legolas> how i can update the internal python on  terminal?
[15:54] <legolas> update to python ver.3
[15:54] <Murd0ck> sudo apt-get python?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> legolas: you may find a PPA
[15:55] <Murd0ck> sudo apt-get update python?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> !info python3
[15:55] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, your computer tying to connect to itself on port 8118. Have you installed Tor, or some other apt related program?
[15:55] <IdleOne> legolas: This is getting tiresome. Please stop.
[15:55] <delac> anyone familiar with bugs 862430 and 974242,  if they are going to be fixed on precise and if so, any guesses how soon?
[15:55] <Murd0ck> SO I must confess
[15:55] <legolas> from where?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> delac: probably
[15:55] <Murd0ck> Linux has made meh smile lately
[15:56] <Diran_Sky> i did install Tor, yes compdoc, would uninstalling it help?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> delac: could use Unity2D until it gets fixed. It'll be faster too :)
[15:56] <IdleOne> Murd0ck: this is the Ubuntu support channel if you feel like chattig join #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:56] <legolas> ok only answer my last question from where ppa can i install internal python 3?
[15:56] <IdleOne> chatting*
[15:56] <delac> ActionParsnip: not using unity at all. Classic :)
[15:56] <Murd0ck> ubuntu-chat?
[15:56] <compdoc> maybe so - I have no experience with Tor. Its possible it might be easier to repair Tor
[15:56] <compdoc> Diran_Sky ^
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> delac: then switch WM to metacity, same deal :)
[15:57] <Diran_Sky> i don't really use it i was just playing about with it
[15:57] <legolas> ??
[15:57] <compdoc> remove it then
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> delac: takes compiz out of the equation
[15:57] <delac> ActionParsnip: I dont think metacity can do half of the things compiz can (and witch I need)
[15:57] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, use the --purge option
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> delac: then you know your 2 choices
[15:58] <IdleOne> legolas: https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/python3.2
[15:58] <legolas> thanks :D
[15:58] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: removed. and i'm still throwing the same errors
[15:59] <delac> ActionParsnip: yes, but my guestion was about getting some information on when to expect fixes
[15:59] <Diran_Sky> did it through the GUI though, i'm a bit of a n00b
[15:59] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, where apt searches for its upgrade files is a config in /etc/apt/
[15:59] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, but you might need to retart apt after removing tor
[15:59] <legolas> یه سوال دارم که فقط افرادی که تو ایران  هستن می تونن جواب بدن   کسی هست؟
[16:00] <compdoc> legolas, thats cool looking text, but we have no idea what it means
[16:00] <Diran_Sky> i can tell it's arabic...but that's all lol
[16:00] <legolas> about what?
[16:00] <i7c> it means legolas is a troll
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> delac: how long is a piece of string
[16:00] <legolas> no
[16:01] <Diran_Sky> and i'm still not sure how to do that compdoc, can you talk me through it?
[16:01] <legolas> I want ed to update chrome from iranians
[16:01] <legolas> because my english is not very good
[16:01] <Quantum_Ion> legolas: Wow from Iran you still have internet acesss ?
[16:01] <legolas> :D
[16:02] <delac> ActionParsnip: right... I do have a another option. Take the sources, apply given patches and compile compiz myself. However that is a bit of a pain, so I would not like to do it if the fixes are coming like next week.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> delac: subscribe to the bug and you can watch it unfold if you want
[16:02] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, now that tor is removed, try:  sudo apt-get update
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> delac: they'll come when they get made dude, its all we can say for sure
[16:03] <legolas> is there any irc for opensource softwares?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> legolas  try #ubuntu
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> legolas: here is one such place
[16:04] <delac> ActionParsnip: yes, I do understand that. I was just hoping that there might be somone here who is keeping close eye on these developments here and could say something more about the situation.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> delac: could try in #compiz
[16:04] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079907/
[16:05] <legolas> any body know  best  opensource softwares  (with out purshace) that is very userfriendly for   editor?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> legolas: 1, there is no single best software for anything
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> legolas: editor of what? text? image? sound?
[16:05] <legolas> text
[16:05] <legolas> 3 bests
[16:05] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list   and then search for 8118
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> legolas: there is no best
[16:06] <legolas> 3 of bests
[16:06] <compdoc> gedit is great
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> legolas: try a few, gedit, leafpad, mousepad, kate, kwrite I can think of quickly
[16:06] <Quantum_Ion> compdoc: They use pluma on Linux Mint
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> legolas: or in cli, emacs, vim, vi, nano
[16:07] <legolas> thank you :D
[16:07] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: how do i look in the file? can i do it through the GUI?
[16:07] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, open a term window, and type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:07] <legolas> what about text editor for programming (python support)
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> legolas: try a few, see which you like then use it
[16:08] <Quantum_Ion> compdoc: Linux mint is an Ubuntu fork that is up and coming because it doesn't use the Unity interface and people are starting to love it
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> legolas: some do format highlighting
[16:08] <michelle_> hey guys, i need some help with booting ubuntu
[16:08] <Saiki> this may be server-dependant (as in the files I'm using, but I thought I'd ask) is there any way to fix this: TRACE : gdelivery::matrixpasswd cache missing, user=****   (something tells me it's java or mySQL doing it..)
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: shame the mint community isn't as large as ubuntu's
[16:08] <legolas> can you introduce few of them?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> legolas: gedit does it
[16:09] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: Give it 5 years and it will be
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: we'll see
[16:09] <legolas> can u name 2 another?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: just remember though, you don't have to use Unity. You can use XFCE in ubuntu and not even see Unity
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> legolas: nano will
[16:09] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: That is true
[16:09] <compdoc> legolas, are you taking a test in class?
[16:09] <Saiki> michelle_: What's the issue?
[16:10] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: I just recently started using Linux Mint and for some reason I like it a lot better then Ubuntu now
[16:10] <legolas> what? what is mean of test in class?
[16:10] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079915/ in sources.list
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: thats why choice exists ;)
[16:11] <Saiki> I personally use xubuntu when I use a GUI version
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I'm using xpud more and more
[16:11] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: Never heard of xpud
[16:11] <michelle_> Saiki: The thing is I just downloaded and installed ubuntu 12.04LTS using the windows installer and now, I no longer get the boot menu to choose between operating systems on start up
[16:11] <Diran_Sky> wondering if it would be easier to just put pangolin on a CD, but i don't want to leave redundant stuff on my box. and i'm a bit worried about loosing the (admittedly non essential) stuff i don't have the space to back up
[16:12] <bekks> michelle_: ...instead, now, what happens?
[16:12] <Saiki> michelle_: pastebin the grub list?
[16:12] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, ok, with gedit, open /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/  and look at the list of files in there. is one named 'proxy'
[16:12] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: I am not down with Cloud Computing
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: if you use youtube, you are
[16:12] <michelle_> bekks: now it automatically opens into windows xp
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: and webmail
[16:12] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: I believe what Richard Stallman said it gives them too much power the owners of those servers
[16:13] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: which window is gedit?
[16:13] <legolas> any body know the 4 bests of django ide s?
[16:13] <michelle_> Saiki: I dont know what that means....I just downloaded it to try and learn about it
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: if it does the job, and well then why is it an issue
[16:14] <Saiki> michelle_: you installed it usign wubi?
[16:14] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: I don't want my personal data on someones cloud
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: you can make your own clioud server
[16:14] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, use whatever program you like to look in that folder to see the list of files
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: means end user systems can be cheaper
[16:14] <Saiki> Quantum_Ion, ActionParsnip: This is all ways the govenrment is slowly monitoring everything we do
[16:14] <bekks> legolas: vi, vim, gvim, eclipse
[16:14] <Quantum_Ion> Saiki: Exactly
[16:14] <michelle_> Saiki: Yep! I tried searching the net and every site tells me that i need the installation cd but I never actually made use of one. So Im wondering if there's any other way.
[16:15] <Quantum_Ion> Saiki: I hate the government monitoring me
[16:15] <legolas> any body know how i can answer only a person
[16:15] <legolas> ?
[16:15] <Saiki> michelle_: not that I know of
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> let them monitor away, see how much they learn
[16:15] <IdleOne> legolas: Please stop asking the same question over and over. You are wasting the time of the helpers and taking it away from people who actually need help.
[16:15] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[16:15] <legolas> OK
[16:15] <Saiki> Quantum_Ion: join the crew
[16:15] <legolas> OK got it
[16:15] <michelle_> Saiki: Thanks for the help!
[16:15] <Saiki> michelle_: np
[16:15] <bekks> michelle_: Yes. The non-windows installation cd (burned onto an empty cd) and then booted from will install ubuntu in parallel of windows, not inside windows.
[16:16] <Diran_Sky> compdoc:  i get a big red thing telling me it's a directory and to make sure i've typed correctly and try again
[16:16] <Griffrez> How much Swap disk space should I allocate on installation?
[16:16] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: When the NSA comes knocking at your door Linux just makes it a little more difficult to decipher the information
[16:16] <legolas> آیا اینجا ایرانی هست؟
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> !ir
[16:16] <IdleOne> legolas: English only in this channel
[16:17] <bekks> Griffrez: As much as your RAM, to be able to hibernate.
[16:17] <Quantum_Ion> legolas is  dude from Iran
[16:17] <Griffrez> Thanks
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: when your browser uses defacto standards, it doesn't
[16:17] <Griffrez> C:
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> legolas = arian
[16:17] <Saiki> ifI'm getting password cache errors (for databases) is it likely from mySQL, and not the program itself?
[16:17] <legolas> how did you know? monkey dust?
[16:17] <Quantum_Ion> I thought they cut internet acess in Iran
[16:17] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, which version of ubuntu is it?
[16:18] <lrcaballero> Griffrez: I normally allocate twice as much your Ram, so say you have 4 GB of RAM you want to do 8 GB...or just do the same amount of RAM
[16:18] <Quantum_Ion> U.S Sanctions
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> legolas  observation and deduction, dear watson
[16:18] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: lucid lynx 10.04
[16:18] <Griffrez> I'll allocate twice as much
[16:18] <Quantum_Ion> The main internet servers are underground in Virgina somewhere
[16:18] <Griffrez> Since I got plenty of disk space
[16:18] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, well, that might be different since its so old. look for a file named /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: how are they main? Or are they just the earlier ones?
[16:19] <legolas> yes you got it from my notes   this is not very difficult :D
[16:19] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: You have to remember the Internet was invented by the US government as a resource to store data and knowledge in case of a nuclear war
[16:19] <lrcaballero> Griffrez: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning use this as reference
[16:19] <samuel> Hey
[16:19] <bekks> Griffrez: You dont need more than your RAM. Twice as much is wasting space, honestly.
[16:19] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: See DARPA
[16:20] <Diran_Sky> compdoc:  all i get is Acquire::http::proxy "http://127.0.0.1:8118/";
[16:20] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, thats the problem
[16:20]  * Debolaz[Lo] feels 512 MB swap is always sufficient. 
[16:20] <Diran_Sky> yay! how do i fix it?
[16:20] <Saiki> bekks: I usually use 1.5x ram, makes things run smoothe imo
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: it was made for the military and universities to communicate
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: see arpanet
[16:20] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: you run web servers and stuff?
[16:20] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: Among other things.
[16:21] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: Though I was primarily thinking of desktops now.
[16:21] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: define "otherthings"?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: The first two nodes of what would become the ARPANET were interconnected between Leonard Kleinrock's Network Measurement Center at the UCLA's School of Engineering and Applied Science and Douglas Engelbart's NLS system at SRI International (SRI) in Menlo Park, California
[16:21] <bekks> Saiki: Thats not true ;) Unless you have a very small RAM size.
[16:21] <Saiki> bekks: 4gb
[16:21] <bekks> Saiki: Since swap is about 1000 times slower than RAM, there is no chance to run things smoother with more swap.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: arpanet pre-dates darpanet by 10 years
[16:21] <narenji> how i can update my personality compile of kernel 3.2.2 to 3.4
[16:21] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: what should i do to fix it?
[16:22] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: That was the cover story
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: yeah, sure :)
[16:22] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, im tyring to google what the default should be for your version
[16:22] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: thanks, i really appreciate all this help
[16:22] <schnuffle1> I don't know if it's still true, but in old times you needed as swap at least as big as RAM to use ruhezustand
[16:22] <narenji> how i can update kernel 3.2.2  to 3.4   by patches
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> narenji: you'll need to 3.4 kernel source
[16:23] <bekks> schnuffle1: It is called hibernation, and it is still true today.
[16:23] <narenji> but i don't have time to compile that
[16:23] <schnuffle1> bekks: aah thats the word I was searching for :)
[16:23] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: Well, my philosophy behind that swap size is that you should always have enough memory to fit everything you need, and the swap should just be there to let the virtual memory manager handle certain things more efficiently.
[16:23] <narenji> ??
[16:24] <Quantum_Ion> Saiki: At least you know the whole story
[16:24] <narenji> any body can answer?
[16:24] <narenji> can i use patches for update linux kernel? how?
[16:24] <Saiki> Quantum_Ion: ?
[16:24] <whit3b0y> a
[16:24] <schnuffle1> narenji: you want to install a 3.4 kernel? HAve you checked if there's aPPA for it?
[16:24] <Saiki> !repeat | narenji
[16:24] <whit3b0y> can I install two versions of apache running side by side via the apt-get install?
[16:25] <whit3b0y> i need one with php 5.2 and one with 5.3
[16:25] <bekks> whit3b0y: You cant.
[16:25] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: better use php with fastcgi, so you can run both versions on the same apache
[16:25] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: That being said, there are special cases where this is not optimal. For instance, the varnish HTTP cache program is designed with the assumption that you have extensive amounts of swap.
[16:25] <grasshopper87> I'm sorry to interrupt. I have a question. Is this server only for ubuntu related chatting? I mean, where can I go to chat about psychology, or subversive philosophy here?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> narenji: there are PPAs with debs but the kernels are not supported here
[16:25] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: of course in different virtual domains
[16:25] <whit3b0y> how can I go about setting up fastcgi?
[16:25] <bekks> whit3b0y: You have to install them manually to different locations, and you have to install a second apache to a different location.
[16:26] <whit3b0y> schuffle1 - no doubt
[16:26] <narenji> can you type a ppa that have new kernels for ubuntu 12.04
[16:26] <narenji> ?
[16:26] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: what system?
[16:26] <whit3b0y> schnuffl1 - ubuntu 12
[16:26] <bazhang> !alis | grasshopper87
[16:26] <whit3b0y> schnuffl1 - ubuntu 12 server
[16:26] <Quantum_Ion> Sometimes I wish the Linux kernel was a plug and play type of situation
[16:26] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: not greatly familiar wth much of servers, still learning
[16:26] <whit3b0y> bekks - I tried that already but am missing libmysqlclient_r
[16:26] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: When in doubt, it's not wrong to have more swap. It wont affect you negatively.
[16:26] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: also, would a password cache error be mysql or a server itself?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> schnuffle1, my experience with swap is thaty it's seldom ever needed , aamof Ive never seen it used in system monitor , and I hav only 3G RAM available , altho my gpu may be sharing the load somewhat .
[16:26] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-apache2-with-mod_fcgid-and-php5-on-ubuntu-8.10
[16:26] <whit3b0y> bekks - which is there bu as 18.so
[16:26] <bilel> is there a way to close the console and let only the navigator opened when doing sudo nautilus?
[16:26] <bekks> whit3b0y: Then you have to install that too, manually.
[16:27] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: Can't say without knowing more specifics.
[16:27] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, try: cat /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf
[16:27] <schnuffle1> BluesKaj: its needed for hibernation
[16:27] <whit3b0y> schnuffle1 - thanks.. will it run any slower than normal?
[16:27] <narenji> thanks
[16:27] <bekks> schnuffle1: That manual doesnt explain how to setup a _second_ apache in parallel.
[16:27] <narenji> thank you
[16:27] <narenji> thank u
[16:27] <narenji> bye
[16:27] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: depends on your setup but my experience is that its faster and uses less memeory
[16:27] <BluesKaj> schnuffle1, well , I don't have ay hibernation settings enabled
[16:28] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: and what is the main reason its saver :)
[16:28] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: next 2 lines:
[16:28] <Saiki> TRACE : gdelivery::passwdtimeout. user=saikadmin
[16:28] <Saiki> TRACE : gdelivery::matrixpasswd cache missing, user=saikadmin
[16:28] <whit3b0y> schnuffle1 - only 2 domains being hosted...
[16:28] <Debolaz[Lo]> Saiki: Unfortunately, that's outside my area of knowledge. :)
[16:28] <whit3b0y> schnuffle1 - k..will give it a shot
[16:28] <GeeksOnHugs> Why doesn't Google Play Movies & TV NOT work on Ubuntu?
[16:28] <bekks> schnuffle1: fastcgi safer than the native apache module? Did they rewrite PHP completely in a few days?
[16:28] <Quantum_Ion> GeeksOnHugs: huh ?
[16:28] <schnuffle1> bekks: I said one apache but two php
[16:28] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: it's not gdelivery, that much I know 100%
[16:29] <faris> tse
[16:29] <GeeksOnHugs> I bought a TV season on Google Play and when I try to play it in ubuntu it says "This cannot run on your system"
[16:29] <schnuffle1> bekks: php runs under a different user for example thats a security plus
[16:29] <GeeksOnHugs> @Quantum_Ion ^
[16:29] <Quantum_Ion> GeeksOnHugs: lol I am lost
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> GeeksOnHugs  sounds like a question for Google
[16:29] <bekks> schnuffle1: Thats security by obscurity, when talking about PHP.
[16:30] <GeeksOnHugs> Google Play sells movies and apps and magazines and books and junk
[16:30] <Quantum_Ion> GeeksOnHugs: Maybe you need a digital TV tuner card that works with Ubuntu
[16:30] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: now the update manager wont run at all
[16:30] <schnuffle1> bekks: do you really know what your talking about or do we misundestanbd each other?
[16:30] <GeeksOnHugs> no, you shouldn't it's streaming video
[16:30] <Quantum_Ion> GeeksOnHugs: I don't use my laptop pc to watch digital TV
[16:30] <Saiki> GeeksOnHugs: try installing more codecs for ubuntu?
[16:30] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, what have you done with apt-conf?
[16:30] <GeeksOnHugs> Netflicks doesn't work either...these bum me out...I only watch my movies and TV on computers and I've switched to ubuntu
[16:30] <compdoc> .
[16:30] <GeeksOnHugs> Oh
[16:31] <bekks> schnuffle1: I think the latter, since I administered php webservers for years.
[16:31] <Saiki> GeeksOnHugs: then question forgoogle it is lol
[16:31] <GeeksOnHugs> Saiki that could be it...with netflix they just don't support linux because we are all supposedly a bunch of raving pirates
[16:31] <Quantum_Ion> lol@NetFlicks
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> GeeksOnHugs: netflix is known to not work, they threatened a client then didn't
[16:31] <schnuffle1> bekks: :) but what has fastcgi to do with obscurity?
[16:31] <Diran_Sky> i changed the line that said Acquire::http::proxy "http://127.0.0.1:8118/"; to the one you said
[16:31] <compdoc> is anyone in here running ubuntu 10.04 right now?
[16:31] <grasshopper87> thanks for the help. if anyone here wants to chat about random stuff, related to art, science, philosophy, etc... with a semi-literate person, msg me.
[16:32] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, no, that wasnt a line to place in there
[16:32] <bekks> schnuffle1: It is just as unsafe as running php natively.
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> grasshopper87  there are other channels, too
[16:32] <BluesKaj> GeeksOnHugs, , got ubunutu-retricted -extras installed ?
[16:32] <Saiki> GeeksOnHugs: LOL  netflix has a <youknowwhat> <youknowwhere>
[16:32] <Diran_Sky> compdoc:  oh :(
[16:32] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, in a term window, type:  cat /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf
[16:32] <compdoc> that should give you an example
[16:33] <GeeksOnHugs> BluesKaj, yes I think so
[16:33] <BluesKaj> err ubuntu-restricted-extras , GeeksOnHugs
[16:33] <Quantum_Ion> GeeksOnHugs: : Hopefully Google will buy netflicks soon and you won't have compatibility problems with Linux anymore
[16:33] <schnuffle1> bekks: php itself I aggree but the whole environemt gives you more options with fastcgi. Very interested in that subject. Should we continue on ubuntu-offtopic?
[16:33] <GeeksOnHugs> like when I installed ubuntu I selected "Install Third Party Software"
[16:33] <wylde> compdoc: I have a machine here on 10.04
[16:33] <GeeksOnHugs> that would be awesome Quantum_Ion <3 Google
[16:34] <Saiki> Quantum_Ion: we don't need google to have a monopoly..
[16:34] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079959/
[16:34] <BluesKaj> GeeksOnHugs, give ua a sample url , that doesn't require joining , if possible
[16:34] <Saiki> Debolaz[Lo]: at best guess, what do you think it could be?
[16:34] <lrcaballero> GeeksOnHugs: Perhaps you can try iTunes via wine and play your videos/movies this way, I don't just giving you an idea
[16:34] <GeeksOnHugs> hmmmm...
[16:34] <compdoc> wylde, does it have a file /etc/apt/apt.conf, or is there a directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/   instead?
[16:35] <wylde> compdoc: moment, I'll ssh over to it.
[16:35] <GeeksOnHugs> Oh those bastards
[16:35] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, lets see what wylde finds on his computer
[16:35] <GeeksOnHugs> The previews work
[16:35] <GeeksOnHugs> I'm reading some links...apparently it's a DRM thing on linux
[16:35] <stoa> hello world
[16:36] <wylde> compdoc:  a directory
[16:36] <lrcaballero> GeeksOnHugs: follow this thread  http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/forum/index.php?topic=333.0
[16:36] <Saiki> GeeksOnHugs: bruteforcing it is? lol
[16:36] <compdoc> wylde, thanks. so there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf  file ?
[16:37] <Quantum_Ion> Saiki: Google is a secret friendly monoply they own all the things that are most interesting, such as gmail, youtube, google-earth and so on
[16:37] <GeeksOnHugs> hah thanks I'll check it
[16:37] <wylde> compdoc: no apt.conf file
[16:37] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, in a term window, type:    sudo ls -al /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[16:38] <Quantum_Ion> I see Linus Torvalds has a Google+ account
[16:38] <BluesKaj> GeeksOnHugs, then install the medibuntu repos and install libdvdcss2 to defeat the DRM
[16:38] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | GeeksOnHugs
[16:38] <Quantum_Ion> Support for Blue Ray devices will be a big issue on Linux
[16:39] <lrcaballero> Quantum_Ion: indeed Linus does have an Google+ account
[16:39] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: wylde http://paste.ubuntu.com/1079969/
[16:39] <wylde> compdoc: output of ls -a -R /etc/apt  -- http://pastebin.com/uKyELfvr
[16:39] <ufrgs> Could someone point me a OS process list application which is not TOP (better with a GUI) please?
[16:39] <lrcaballero> social media is big now a days!!!
[16:39] <Quantum_Ion> lrcaballero: I don't have Google+ or FaceBook because you must divulge your real name
[16:39] <bazhang> !ot | lrcaballero Quantum_Ion
[16:40] <Saiki> Quantum_Ion: I have friends using a screen name
[16:40] <compdoc> wylde, can you:    sudo ls -al /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[16:40] <lrcaballero> Quantom_ion I don't either....for same reasons
[16:40] <bazhang> Saiki, lets get back on topic
[16:40] <compdoc> wylde, oh you did - sorry
[16:40] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: I've got another idea. you can  run two apaches, each in a LXC environement
[16:41] <whit3b0y> schnuffle, never messed around with that before
[16:41] <shahriyarguliyev> compdoc: may i ask a question in private?
[16:42] <schnuffle1> whit3b0y: I use it for Dev Env as I don't want to have the Servers running on my machine when I don't need them. For now I use it like a VM but it's also possible to only run several processes
[16:43] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, you should delete the file /etc/apt/apt.conf     and then backup and delete the file  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20packagekit
[16:43] <whit3b0y> scuffle1 -  I am going to try this fast cgi
[16:43] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: ok, how do i do that?
[16:43] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, do not accidentally delete the directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[16:44] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, in a term window type:  sudo nautilus &
[16:44] <faris> ada yang dari indonesia?
[16:44] <bazhang> !id | faris
[16:44] <bazhang> !gksudo compdoc Diran_Sky
[16:45] <bazhang> whoops
[16:45] <compdoc> bazhang, gksudo doesnt work as well as just sudo
[16:45] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: that oped a window showing my desktop
[16:45] <bazhang> compdoc, gksudo for graphical apps
[16:45] <Diran_Sky> *opened
[16:45] <bazhang> compdoc, thats not correct
[16:45] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, ok, click on Filesystem in the left side there
[16:46] <bazhang> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo compdoc
[16:46] <Binnzi> Does anyone know why rtorrent gives me this error on all torrents: "tracker, server returned nothing"? :l
[16:46] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: ok, lots of files.
[16:47] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, ok now open etc and then apt
[16:47] <compdoc> in the main window
[16:47] <Diran_Sky> ok, found apt.conf
[16:47] <compdoc> delete that one
[16:47] <compdoc> then open apt.conf.d
[16:48] <Diran_Sky> ok
[16:48] <compdoc> and copy the file 20packagekit to your desktop for backup
[16:48] <compdoc> I dont know what that is
[16:48] <lrcaballero> Diran_Sky: it should be something similar to this: NOTE: I used this in my Archlinux box...    	 	 	 	 	 	   Backup your pacman.conf
[16:48] <lrcaballero>  # sudo mv /etc/pacman.conf ~/pacman.conf.backup   Move pacman.conf.pacnew to pacman.conf# sudo mv pacman.conf.pacnew pacman.conf
[16:48] <compdoc> then delete 20packagekit
[16:49] <compdoc> from apt.conf.d
[16:49] <bazhang> lrcaballero, there's no pacman.conf in ubuntu
[16:49] <dubaco> HELP: ubuntu 12.04 ubuntu one client wont die nore the deamon, and it is using 104% cpu
[16:49] <Diran_Sky> ok, deleted
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> dubaco: you can use:  kill -9 PID
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> dubaco: obviously change PID for the actual PID
[16:50] <lrcaballero> bazhang: I know this, is just an example of what it would look like in your terminal using the Ubuntu guidelines ofcourse!
[16:50] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, now try in a term window:  sudo apt-get update
[16:50] <dubaco> ActionParsnip: have tried. killall too... no effect
[16:50] <hje841> Using Archive Manager I'm trying to extract an ISO file, but it's been going on for like 2 hours now. is that normal? (Ubuntu 11.10)
[16:51] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: yay! it's downloading things!
[16:51] <dubaco> also ActionParsnip  i tried sudo apt-get remove ubuntuone ubuntu-one
[16:51] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, when its finished, try sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:52] <lrcaballero> hje841: do you know how big is the file (ISO) you are extracting?
[16:52] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: downloading nearly 100days of upgrades now
[16:52] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, also, open the file 20packagekit and see whats in there
[16:52] <dubaco> hmm wait here ActionParsnip  ill try the software center - i am running in text at the moment
[16:53] <hje841> lrcaballero, it's 1.1 GB
[16:53] <lrcaballero> hje841: I don't think is normal...it should've been done by now, do you get an option to cancel the process?
[16:53] <XiRoN> How can I make a file have 2 owners?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> dubaco: with the -9 option
[16:54] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, if those updades include a new kernel, you need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:54] <hje841> lrcaballero, yeah. I'm running it with GUI. the folder tree is there when I explore the result in nautilus
[16:55] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: i can't find the 20packagekit now :( will i have ruined everything if i've lost it
[16:56] <hje841> lrcaballero, any alternatives to the extracting?
[16:56] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, thats not a default file. it was placed there by some program you installed. so it possible that program will have problems
[16:56] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: well, will deal with that when it happens i suppose
[16:56] <compdoc> sure
[16:57] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: what i'd really like to end up with is dual booting precise pangolin and windows, do you think attempting that would be really stupid for me?
[16:57] <Griffrez> Hello, again.
[16:58] <Griffrez> I wanted to make a question.
[16:58] <Dr_willis> hje841,  you can mount an iso file and copy files from it.
[16:58] <Dr_willis> !iso | hje841
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> or use mounty :)
[16:58] <water> hello everyone!!
[16:58] <Dr_willis> Griffrez,  ask it and see who can answer...
[16:59] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, I found this on google about 20packagekit:  THIS FILE IS USED TO INFORM PACKAGEKIT THAT THE UPDATES MIGHT HAVE CHANGED
[16:59] <compdoc> I dont know what packagekit is
[16:59] <hje841> Dr_willis, right. thanks :)
[16:59] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, I dont dual boot, but lots of ppl do without issus
[16:59] <lrcaballero> hje841: this might help...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970139
[17:00] <compdoc> issues
[17:00] <Griffrez> I have an ATI graphics card. Namely a 4770 HD. I wanted to know if there's a difference between the drivers that Ubuntu notifies me about ("Restricted drivers"), and the drivers given by ATI itself on their website. And if there is, which one is better? The ones given by Ubuntu, the ones at ATI or the open source alternatives, that exist out there?
[17:00] <LuGiX> Hallo :)
[17:01] <LuGiX> Ich habe folgendes Problem:
[17:01] <LuGiX> also folgendes: ich will auf einem Server folgendes OS installieren: "Ubuntu Server X64 12.04", habe zwei 512GB-Platten drin und beide im BIOS als RAID0(striped) konfiguriert. Das Ubuntu Setup erkennt es als eine Striped-platte mit 1TB, ich lege zwei partitionen an, eine swap mit 4GB und eine ext4 mit 920GB, Die Installation funktioniert doch grub lässt sich unter keinen umständen installieren
[17:01] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: packagekit doesn't appear to be that important, but i can reinstal it if it is
[17:01] <bazhang> LuGiX, #ubuntu-de for german
[17:01] <LuGiX> thanks
[17:01] <compdoc> Griffrez, you can try the Restricted driver and see if the video is less laggy, or switch back if there is no improvement
[17:02] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, good thinking
[17:02] <compdoc> Griffrez, hopefully you end up with working video either wat
[17:02] <compdoc> way
[17:03] <VirtualBlackness> compdoc: switching back takes a bit of effort really. Griffrez there is a difference. one is the open sourced radeon, the other the proprietary fglrx driver which should give better performance.
[17:03] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: That was what I was getting to. I would want to know who would have the best performance.
[17:04] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: And you misunderstood what I wanted to compare. I want to compare the drivers that get automatically detected for download by Ubuntu, or the ones provided by ATI, directly, at their website.
[17:04] <Griffrez> I did not want to compare Open vs Proprietary.
[17:05] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: that is precisely what you are doing. The proprietary driver gives better performance. I did not misunderstand.
[17:05] <compdoc> Griffrez, best way to compare is to try
[17:06] <lrcaballero> Griffrez: did you ask in the Ubuntu forums yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/
[17:06] <compdoc> Griffrez, is your video lagging or slow?
[17:06] <Griffrez> No. I haven't installed any variant of the driver.
[17:06] <Griffrez> I came to ask, to question what would be the best
[17:06] <compdoc> I mean with the default dirves
[17:06] <Griffrez> Oh
[17:06] <compdoc> drivers
[17:06] <Griffrez> I haven't tested
[17:06] <Griffrez> ANd the default drivers aren't really drivers.
[17:06] <Diran_Sky> compdoc: i just got "not all changes and updates suceeded" i can't copy the details
[17:07] <Griffrez> They are.
[17:07] <compdoc> Diran_Sky, thats because theres a new kernel, most likely
[17:07] <compdoc> reboot and try again
[17:07] <Griffrez> But... they aren't as good as complete drivers. Well, doesn't matter.
[17:07] <Diran_Sky> and now it wants to restart. so back afterwards.
[17:07] <Griffrez> So, VirtualBlackness, are you saying that the drivers provided by Ubuntu itself are the open ones?
[17:08] <OerHeks> Griffrez, the standard driver is oke for 2D, and improving anyway.
[17:08] <OerHeks> Griffrez, keep filling in bug-reports
[17:09] <compdoc> I try to use the default drivers when possible
[17:09] <lrcaballero> Griffrez: here I found this that can be of help to you...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:10] <Griffrez> lrcaballero: Thank you.
[17:10] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: you will have video accelleration, h.264 and 3d will utilize the vaapi with the proprietary driver. The radeon driver was made open source by ATI way back in the day, and they no longer maintain it. The fglrx driver is produced by ATI with ever dropping card support, but for what they do support they support gpu accelleration and all the new bits (compositing etc) which make for a better experience, typically.
[17:10] <VirtualBlackness> However it can be a problematic clustermuff depending on several situations. And yes, the xserver-xorg-video-radeon IS a driver.
[17:11] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: So, if I want the MAIN OPEN source driver... I just... don't install anything else?
[17:11] <ePax> I have installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop how do i install server and remove desktop
[17:12] <VirtualBlackness> correct Griffrez. My experinece with these things is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[17:13] <dr-freak>  i cant not login in my ubuntu desktop with my passwords
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> ePax: just add the boot option: text    and the UI won't load
[17:13] <dr-freak> plz someobody help me
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: so, you want autologin do you mean. double negatives confuse
[17:14] <dr-freak> i can not login in my ubuntu 12.04 desktop with my password
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: ahh so you want a password reset?
[17:14] <dr-freak> no..i reinstall my os in virtualbox..but i can not login
[17:14] <dr-freak> my pasword is correct
[17:14] <blotek> turn off capslock ?
[17:14] <blotek> or turn on ;p
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: what happens when you try to log in?
[17:14] <dr-freak> after i give pasword a blank window comes and again go back to login screen
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: how much free space does the system have?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: are you fully updated?
[17:15] <dr-freak> 30 gb
[17:15] <dr-freak> yes
[17:15] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: Well. I appreciate your help.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: in the VM..does the VM have 30Gb o space?
[17:15] <blotek> dr-freak, omfg but it doesnt tell u password is wrong
[17:15] <dr-freak> why i can not login to my desktop
[17:15] <dr-freak> yes
[17:15] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I'm a complete n00b to Linux enviroment.
[17:15] <dr-freak> i make hdd for 30 gb
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: wiash I had that to throw around :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> dr-freak,  could be X is crashing so you are in fact logging in.
[17:15] <dr-freak> yes it does not tell me pass is wrong..if i give another pasword it tell me it wrong
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: if you make a new user, is it ok there?
[17:16] <Dr_willis> dr-freak,  try logging in at the console perhaps.
[17:16] <dr-freak> i am in virtualbox how to get console?
[17:16] <Dr_willis> Not sure. :)  there ssome xpecial keycombo
[17:16] <blotek> dr-freak, try to switch to ttl1 (ctrl +f1) type in mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup and restart session /pc ;)
[17:16] <dr-freak> i am not able to do anything until i am not login
[17:16] <blotek> TTL1*
[17:16] <lrcaballero> dr-freak: have you tried login in as guest? and if yes what happens?
[17:17] <Dr_willis> You could just reboot the vbox install and use the text mode.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: on the login screen press CTRL+ALT+F1  and log in there, then run:  sudo adduser testy     set the password then reboot and log in as testy with your new password, is it ok?
[17:17] <Dr_willis> !text
[17:17] <blotek> i bet it's wrong .xinit config or xorg config;)
[17:17] <dr-freak> if i press ctrl+f1 then my backtrack console open..ubunt 12.04 is in virtualbox
[17:17] <VirtualBlackness> No worries Griffrez :) welcome. I would not mess with it unless you encounter a problem. The proprietary driver can be problematic.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: could also try a different session with the current user, like Unity2D
[17:17] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  how do you do alt-ctrl-f1 in the vbox guest OS. :)
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: use the left hand buttons ;)
[17:17] <blotek> dr-freak, then go fullscreen first in VB  lol
[17:17] <VirtualBlackness> right ctrl right alt f1
[17:18] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: Yes. I've had problems with it before. One of my monitors doesn't seem to have EDEI (I think that's how it is called) information, so, the Refresh Rate goes off range...
[17:18] <dr-freak> i dont know how  to get console in virtual box because ctrl+f1 not work in vbox
[17:18] <VirtualBlackness> ActionParsnip: backwards for me
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: try selecting a different session, use the ubuntu logo near your username to switch
[17:18] <blotek> dr-freak, the only button that should be binded in full screen is probably turning off fullscreen
[17:18] <VirtualBlackness> EDID... that is the fault of the monitor, and is unlikely to be rectified by the driver Griffrez.
[17:18] <dr-freak> i am not able to do anything
[17:19] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I know that.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: you can, at the login screen
[17:19] <blotek> then run system in fallback mode or anything
[17:19] <blotek> i bet ubuntu has shit like that :> ?
[17:19] <VirtualBlackness> However you can send commands directly to xrandr to rectify it Griffrez.
[17:19] <dr-freak> i try to get console but it give me backtrack f1 console
[17:19] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: But the prop Driver, on my previous installations, was trying unvalid refresh rates, on the start. So I could even change the RR.
[17:19] <dr-freak> not in virtualbox
[17:19] <bulletrulz> HELP!
[17:19] <IdleOne> !language | blotek
[17:19] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: Yeah... commands... -genius-
[17:20] <bulletrulz> i cannot install apps from software center
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: in the login screen, change session
[17:20] <dr-freak> I DID BUT DOESNOT WORKS
[17:20] <blotek> dr-freak, first of all why u're using backtrack if u dont know how to switch TTL in VM ? lol scriptkiddie ?
[17:20] <bulletrulz> i get the untrusted error
[17:20] <blotek> i dont help script kiddos sry ;P
[17:20] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I need a lot of insight...
[17:20] <dr-freak> YAH I AM SCRIPT KIDES ARE YOU PROFESSIONAL?
[17:20] <IdleOne> !backtrack | dr-freak
[17:20] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I'll slowly learn, if I grow determination in me.
[17:20] <VirtualBlackness> dr-freak: stop with the caps.
[17:21] <dr-freak> i am using ubuntu 12.04 in virtualbox
[17:21] <dr-freak> i am asking for ubuntu not for backtrack
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> dr-freak: try making the new user then, or boot to root recovery mode if the usual method doesn't work
[17:21] <bulletrulz> help is anyone gonna help
[17:21] <IdleOne> bulletrulz: what is the exact error?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> !pgp
[17:21] <schnuffle1> bulletrulz: can you install from terminal?
[17:21] <dr-freak> ok i will will make new use to recover mode
[17:21] <dr-freak> wait lem me check
[17:21] <OerHeks> bulletrulz, what did you download that software centre does not know?
[17:22] <bulletrulz> ok hold on
[17:22] <Griffrez> Is there any noticable difference between the default Firefox and the Firefox coming from Mozilla?
[17:22] <Griffrez> This seems a bit... less complete.
[17:22] <Griffrez> Than the one from Mozilla. :P
[17:22] <Dr_willis> Griffrez,  ubuntu has their filefox extension that removed the buttons at the bottom of the start page i noticed.
[17:22] <Dr_willis> Griffrez,  other then that. ive not noticed any differances
[17:23] <Griffrez> Hmmm. Yeah. It lacks many buttons.
[17:23] <Griffrez> Like the firefox button. xD
[17:23] <Dr_willis> only buttons i noticed lacking where the 5 at the bottom of the start page.
[17:23] <Griffrez> I come from Windows...
[17:23] <Griffrez> I mean
[17:24] <Dr_willis> cant say ive noticed any other buttons missing.
[17:24] <bulletrulz> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:24] <bulletrulz> thats the eroor
[17:24] <superuser> what is the command to ge rhythm box?  apt-get install...
[17:24] <blotek> xD omg :D
[17:24] <deadmund> superuser: apt-get install rhythmbox
[17:24] <deadmund> duh?
[17:25] <Dr_willis> superuser,  use apt-cache search PATTERNNAME to find package names
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> superuser: sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[17:25] <IdleOne> bulletrulz: does it say something about GPG key?
[17:25] <superuser> Dr_willis how dose that work?
[17:25] <bulletrulz> no i dont think so :/
[17:25] <Griffrez> How I install tar.bz2 binary packages?
[17:26] <bulletrulz> what is a gpg key
[17:26] <blotek> u guys rly help ppl which didnt read any manual at all  ?
[17:26] <Dr_willis> superuser,  how does what work? its a feasture of apt.
[17:26] <IdleOne> bulletrulz: kinda hard to help you without full info
[17:26] <bulletrulz> libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
[17:26] <lrcaballero> superuser: you may also use the software center to install software if you prefer...
[17:26] <IdleOne> blotek: yes.
[17:26] <superuser> Dr_willis oh okay well thanks
[17:26] <Dr_willis> !apt | superuser
[17:26] <dr-freak> can anyone tell me how to install gdm?
[17:26] <Dr_willis> dr-freak,  sudo apt-get install gdm
[17:26] <schnuffle1> blotek: yes
[17:26] <IdleOne> !gpgerr | bulletrulz
[17:27] <dr-freak> ok thanks
[17:27] <oCean> Griffrez: .tar.bz2 is a compressed zip archive. use   tar xjvf name.tar.bz2 to extract.
[17:27] <bulletrulz> nvm
[17:27] <oCean> Griffrez: but I recommend installing software from the official repositories
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez: extract it and slam it in /opt  you can then link the binary to /usr/bin for easy launching
[17:27] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: there is not usually a good reason to compile from source if you are new to linux. What are you trying to install, firefox?
[17:28] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: nm... listen to ActionParsnip
[17:29] <Debolaz[Lo]> What would be the command to see the cipher used on a full disk encryption installation? I know it's AES, but what's the command to get that information?
[17:29] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: However I believe the difference is going to be mostly between windows firefox and linux firefox, not ubuntu firefox and mozilla linux firefox.
[17:29] <lrcaballero> can someone provide me with the command to search for installed packages in Ubuntu 12.04? thank you!
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> VirtualBlackness: i'd try finding a PPA, it will make the app gel with your OS better
[17:29] <oCean> lrcaballero: dpkg -l shows every installed package
[17:30] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I guess.
[17:30] <VirtualBlackness> lrcaballero: a specific package? I tend to go with apt-cache policy <package>   show is a bit verbose
[17:31]  * nrd hi all
[17:31] <lrcaballero> oCean:VirtualBlackness Thanks!
[17:32] <lrcaballero> is on my journal now!!!
[17:32] <fellayaboy> in a bash script is there a way to run a command after u close the shell...say i have a script to mount a file...after i click x can it then be umounted
[17:33] <Griffrez> What is the main way to change my enviroment?
[17:33] <bekks> fellayaboy: You dont mount file normally. And for sure it can always be unmounted, even after closing the shell.
[17:33] <VirtualBlackness> fellayaboy: you could setup a trap.
[17:33] <Griffrez> Like... Unity to GNOME, or whatever else I might want?
[17:34] <fellayaboy> how do u setup a trap
[17:34] <VirtualBlackness> !nounity | Griffrez
[17:34] <LaOdeAliFarisi> salam
[17:35] <VirtualBlackness> fellayaboy: That is really outside of support here... I will pm you with an example trap within a bash script.
[17:35] <schnuffle1> fellayaboy: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_12_02.html
[17:35] <fellayaboy> okk thanks
[17:35] <LaOdeAliFarisi> All : Hallo
[17:35] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: Thanks.
[17:36] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: I try to be as nice as possible to make up for my fail at using Ubuntu. :P
[17:36] <fellayaboy> what does echo $$ produce?
[17:36] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez: you have nothing to make up for. You are learning linux. I applaud you.
[17:37] <VirtualBlackness> fellayaboy: the process id of the shell/subshell
[17:37] <fellayaboy> oh ok thank u
[17:37] <Griffrez> VirtualBlackness: Okay. I got GNOME installed... how do I switch to it... log off? And there will be an enviroment option?
[17:38] <fellayaboy> griffrez use..
[17:38] <fellayaboy> i mean yes
[17:38] <Griffrez> fellayaboy: Haha. Nice typo. :P
[17:38] <fellayaboy> lol
[17:39] <Griffrez_> Oh... GNOME 3 is quite different.
[17:39] <Griffrez_> :)
[17:40] <Griffrez_> That is, in relation to GNOME 2.
[17:40] <Pinkamena_D> hi i type ip rule flush to get rid of any rules i had made that were useless but it deleted all of them even the nessasary ones. How do restors or recreate the default ip rules?
[17:40] <ziyadb> Hi all!
[17:41] <ziyadb> So how do I transfer data to my iPad? libmedia & gtkpod already installed. Everything is just not working.
[17:41] <ziyadb> iPad 3, Ubuntu 12.04
[17:41] <ziyadb> s/data/media/
[17:41] <ziyadb> It's really frustrating.
[17:41] <flan_suse> Ubuntu 12.04 and themes have thrown me for a loop.
[17:42] <Griffrez_> GNOME 3 is confusing.
[17:42] <Griffrez_> Even more than Unity
[17:42] <schnuffle1> Pinkamena_D: resarting network should do the job
[17:42] <flan_suse> When you apply a "theme" is it GTK3 or GTK2? And what's the difference betweens setting the Theme under "Appearance" and setting it under MyUnity? Nothing seems consistent.
[17:42] <nascentmind> Hi. Does amarok play internet radio streams. I am getting frustrated with it.
[17:42] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: yes it does for me
[17:43] <Pinkamena_D> it does not, i still only have one route in route-n
[17:43] <Griffrez_> VirtualBlackness: Can you give me that bot entry about GNOME, again? I don't remember the package for GNOME 2.
[17:43] <flan_suse> And how come some themes look ugly when setting them (flat, windows-2000) but others look fine?
[17:43] <Pinkamena_D> its missing the return
[17:43] <nascentmind> schnuffle, does it play streams from this http://radio.h4xed.us/radio/news
[17:43] <schnuffle1> Pinkamena_D: static config or DHCP
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: if you are using Precise (12.04 Ubuntu) it will be GTK3
[17:43] <Pinkamena_D> static
[17:43] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: So GTK2 themes will not work at all then?
[17:43] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: can'T check right now as I'm on Mint
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: unfortunately not
[17:44] <nascentmind> schnuffle, it doesn't play anything for me. m3u,asx,pls nothing!
[17:44] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: And what about the window manager? Anything special for those? Does it have to be compiz themes?
[17:44] <VirtualBlackness> !nounity | Griffrez_
[17:44] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: have you other players installed that work? missing codecs?
[17:44] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: I'm getting mixed up between setting a theme under Appearance or setting a theme under MyUnity.
[17:44] <OerHeks> flan_suse, be sure you have GTK3 and unity theme, not gnome-panel themes
[17:45] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, amarok was playing before. suddenly it stopped after I reinstalled it. Even before it would play only asx I think.
[17:45] <Griffrez_> VirtualBlackness: Is there a way to have GNOME 3 show windows, on the bottom, like GNOME 2?
[17:46] <flan_suse> OerHeks: And that will take care of the window decoration too? (window manager theme)
[17:46] <Griffrez_> That's the only thing that is bothering me about GNOME 3.
[17:46] <fellayaboy> doesnt it do that by default?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez_: depends on the shell, if you use gnome-panel then yes
[17:46] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, winamp etc plays very well with these streams.
[17:46] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: start amarok from a terminal and watch if any errors appears when you try to play something
[17:46] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, amarok has to be the most useless player I have ever seen. It has only gone downhill.
[17:46] <VirtualBlackness> Griffrez_: I do not believe so, but... I use KDE... so... all I can tell you is that gnome2 is gone... and we must accept this loss.
[17:47] <OerHeks> flan_suse, you could use ubuntu-tweak to install themes. be carefull with the options :-)
[17:47] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, I have done that with the --debug option.  It gives out engineNewTrackPlaying: "Stream (http://radio.h4xed.us/radio/tunein/7080/asx)" does not match what the playlist controller thought it should be
[17:47] <Griffrez_> VirtualBlackness: I don't really like GNOME 3. It's inbetween of GNOME 2 and Unity... and it's really messed up, in my opinion.
[17:47] <flan_suse> OerHeks: This is going backwards, though.
[17:47] <fellayaboy> Griffrez i use gnome 3 and i believe that bottom bar ur talkign about exists in gnome 3...where ur windows are nested when you minimize
[17:47] <flan_suse> OerHeks: There seems to be 3 ways to set themes: Appearance, MyUnity, and ubuntu-tweak.
[17:48] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: To change windows I have to press "Activities".
[17:48] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: And there's no minimize icon.
[17:48] <OerHeks> flan_suse, i find myunity not so handy with themes.
[17:48] <flan_suse> OerHeks: This fragmentation was not a problem back in 10.04, for example. I just want to know how to set the entire theme, like I did on 10.04 (with a single click, it sets the colors, gtk2 theme, metacity theme, icon theme, and wallpaper.)
[17:48] <Pinkamena_D> ..should i try dhcp instead?
[17:48] <trism> flan_suse: the themes in Appearance are hardcoded, myunity and probably ubuntu-tweak allow you to set any theme (and probably do it the same way with gsettings)
[17:49] <flan_suse> OerHeks: I'll look into ubuntu-tweak. Just kind of disappointed in the direction *everyone* is going.
[17:49] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: Ops. Scratch that last sentence. Found how to activate the minimize button.
[17:49] <OerHeks> flan_suse, GTK themes are just started, i am waiting for a good theme editor.
[17:49] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:49] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: But still. It nests the windows on the top left corner, at "Activities".
[17:49] <cristian_c> How can I activate gestures with Ginn?
[17:49] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: vlc can play it, what a music :)
[17:50] <fellayaboy> oh no u did soemthing then griffrez
[17:50] <flan_suse> OerHeks: Right, but it still feels "unpolished" and discarded.
[17:50] <cristian_c> There is this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn
[17:50] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, I am thinking of switching to vlc now.
[17:50] <stack_> Hi, I mounted my / as nfs on another machine, and by mistake changed the permissions on / as chmod -R 777 *. Now I can't ssh into the server. Is it possible to repair it without formatting it ?
[17:50] <cristian_c> but I don't understand how to use it
[17:50] <flan_suse> It's like no one's really expected to use full themes anymore, and if they do, they have to go 3rd-party routes just to do what was standard in 10.04 and Gnome 2.
[17:50] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eUGKrFwPOw
[17:50] <nascentmind> schnuffle1, is the music good or bad :) ?
[17:50] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: No. I just installed the package, log off, change the enviroment to "GNOME" and it was like this already.
[17:50] <fellayaboy> alt+click delete that window manager from the top...then alt+click to add a panel to the bottom
[17:51] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: gnome-tweak-tool? Another tool?
[17:51] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: So use gnome-tweak-tool under Ubuntu, but not ubuntu-tweak or MyUnity?
[17:51] <schnuffle1> nascentmind: not my style but I'm used to it as I have a lot of metall heads as friends
[17:51] <Griffrez_> fellayaboy: Not understanding what you mean with that.
[17:51] <fellayaboy> griffrez then add that window manager..i forgot what its called...but it manages the windows being nested into the panel
[17:52] <fellayaboy> Griffrez if you need help PM me
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: try it
[17:55] <fellayaboy> (/msg Griffrez_* hey
[17:55] <fellayaboy> yeah pm me again
[17:56] <princej88> Hey guys, I recently just set up ufw on my ubuntu server. Now I can't run apt-get because it is blocked by the firewall. Netatalk seems to be blocked by the firewall as well
[17:56] <Ihsan_> Hello, am I right here for support?
[17:56] <princej88> any idea what ports i would need to open?
[17:57] <Ihsan_> I need a chat (support) with a Ubuntu professional because I got a weird problem. :)
[17:57] <fellayaboy> make sure u log out or reboot and choose gnome 3
[17:58] <schnuffle1> princej88: apt-get is Port 80/443, netatalk 548 and more I think
[17:59] <princej88> Thanks! i'll give that a shot
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: ask and the chanel will reply if it can
[17:59] <Ihsan_> allright :)
[18:00] <Diran_Sky> After updates my computer restarted but I have no GUI. What should I do?
[18:01] <Ihsan_> I got a problem with the following: I'm quite new to Ubuntu, I installed Gnome 3 and I'm using a 64-bit version of Ubuntu. Since I updated everything with update manager and changed everything to my favor, I got a problem. When I for example 'Empty' my trash, all the iconds on the desktop will be gone, I have to open 'Files' or 'Computer' to let the icons show on the desktop again
[18:01] <tking> ActionParsnip, hello i hv done the driver thing, i just want to ask 1 question
[18:01] <L3top> Diran_Sky: what desktop do you use? Try simply: startx
[18:01] <Debolaz[Lo]> Ihsan_: You voluntarily use gnome 3? :o
[18:02] <Ihsan_> yes
[18:02] <Ihsan_> I love it :)
[18:02] <Ihsan_> I jumped from Windows to Ubuntu for ever xD
[18:02] <Ihsan_> Why?
[18:02] <tking> ActionParsnip, it has made my computer fan stop making noise and its cold for over hours battery life has trippled.... but i am not sure if i must run the a paticular script always
[18:02] <tking> a bash file
[18:03] <tking> !help
[18:03] <machicola> !patience
[18:03] <stack_> by mistake changed the permissions on / as chmod -R 777 *. Now I can't ssh into the server. Is it possible to repair it without formatting it ?
[18:04] <Griffrez_> What is the best variant of Java I can use on Ubuntu, in terms of performance?
[18:04] <stack_> by mistake changed the permissions on / as chmod -R 777 *. Now I can't ssh into the server. Is it possible to repair it without formatting it ? I do have physical access to the server
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> tking: try a reboot to test
[18:04] <Diran_Sky> L3top just throws up lots of errors and stuff.
[18:04] <Ihsan_> How to unselect everything on Gimp? O-O
[18:05] <L3top> That is not a particularly helpful reply Diran_Sky.
[18:07]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[18:08] <Diran_Sky> I'm connecting on ky phone sorry do typing is hard. It tells me no such file or directory no such process unable to connect to x server and server error but the left side of the text goes off the screen
[18:08] <Ihsan_> I got a problem with the following: I'm quite new to Ubuntu, I installed Gnome 3 and I'm using a 64-bit version of Ubuntu. Since I updated everything with update manager and changed everything to my favor, I got a problem. When I for example 'Empty' my trash, all the iconds on the desktop will be gone, I have to open 'Files' or 'Computer' to let the icons show on the desktop again
[18:09] <fellayaboy> wow im having some major problems here...my ubuntu automatically logins into a terminal instead of the gui...tty1
[18:09] <fellayaboy> im guessing the new update to default.list mustve doen something
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: What is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[18:10] <L3top> Sorry... my build is done... I have to go test stuff.
[18:10] <Ihsan_> The output of lsb_release -sc = "precise"
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: then it comes with Gnome3 already...
[18:10] <fellayaboy> griffen u tehre
[18:10] <Ihsan_> Huh?
[18:10] <Ihsan_> I installed Gnome 3 manually
[18:11] <Ihsan_> I followed an article on the internet
[18:11] <fellayaboy> exit
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: its part of the OS
[18:11] <fellayaboy> exit
[18:11] <Ihsan_> Hmm, yes but the rproblem is, after updates and stuff, when I empty trash then all icons will hide on the desktop
[18:11] <Griffrez_> How do I open the Ubuntu's equivalent to Windows' task manager?
[18:11] <Ihsan_> and I open 'Files' and browse in it and then you see the icons will show on the desktop again
[18:12] <codemaniac> Griffrez_: top command can give you the idea about resource hungry processes
[18:13] <codemaniac> shift +M
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Griffrez_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20355/use-ctrlaltdel-for-task-manager-in-linux-to-kill-tasks-easily/
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[18:19] <d4gg3r> hey, it is a few days that my laptop running ubuntu 12.04 gets disconnected from the wifi access point at my home
[18:20] <d4gg3r> the state of wifi is connected but no data can be transmitted
[18:20] <d4gg3r> when I reconnect to wifi it gets fixed for a few seconds and then dies again
[18:20] <djzylex> does anybody know how to add a run as root option in the main application window?
[18:20] <djzylex> in ubuntu12.04
[18:20] <L3top> !id | LaOdeAliFarisi
[18:21] <L3top> djzylex: this is typically a very bad idea... what application?
[18:22] <djzylex> some apps need to run as root like partitioning apps and what not
[18:22] <djzylex> i need to be able to put in what i want to run and have it do that
[18:23] <djzylex> a click instead of typing in the term
[18:23] <Ghosthunter007> question why is firestarter entering LSO entries
[18:23] <Ghosthunter007> when I tell it to reject or drop
[18:26] <augustl> hi folks. Switching workspaces takes 1 second and is laggy. Alt-tabbing between emacs and terminal also takes about 1 second. "compiz" shows up at 70% or so in top. Any suggestions for a fix?
[18:26] <jordan_> Hey, What is the process for getting the android sdk adb tool to work on ubuntu? I have it installed but it says "adb command not found" when trying to run "./adb devices" in the folder adb is located in.
[18:27] <Dr_willis> djzylex,  make a launchter that runs 'gksudo appname'
[18:27] <Dr_willis> jordan_,  make sure the binary is marked executable perhaps?
[18:27] <djzylex> how do i make a launcher?
[18:27] <jordan_> Ahh good point. I'll check that now.
[18:27] <Dr_willis> djzylex,  make a .desktop file or i think you can right click, make shortcut/launcher or somthing like that
[18:27] <djzylex> ok what i want is a button that i can click and it asks me for the program to run as root
[18:28] <Dr_willis> djzylex,  you would have to make a script for that.
[18:28] <fellayaboy> can someone help me...i updated my box and now i cant log into the gui
[18:28] <jordan_> Dr_willis, it is o.O
[18:28] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  what does it do exactly, and can youlogin to the console.
[18:28] <Dr_willis> jordan_,  try 'file adb'
[18:28] <fellayaboy> logs in into tty1 console
[18:28] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  so what happens when you login via lightdm?
[18:29] <fellayaboy> whats lightdm
[18:29] <djzylex> thnx
[18:30] <L3top> lightdm is the unity desktop manager fellayaboy
[18:30] <divineslight> np matey
[18:30] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  the login gui screen.
[18:30] <jordan_> Dr_willis, it is o.O
[18:30] <jordan_> Sorry for the double post
[18:30] <divineslight> lol slow-motion has joined
[18:31] <Dr_willis> seems lately people think they cant 'login' when in fact they are logging in, its just X crashing on them back to the Login Screen.
[18:32] <Ihsan_> Well I need support!
[18:32] <Ihsan_> I got a problem!
[18:32] <divineslight> Yes Ihsan
[18:32] <divineslight> what is your problem?
[18:32] <Ihsan_> When I try to login on my root account.
[18:32] <reuf> hello guys - can some one point me to some good tutorial on how all this apt-get package management works - i know the man pages, can some one give me some simplified bird eye overview - of what happens when im installing a package, conflicts and when i uninstall - it is such a big mess now in my head
[18:32] <divineslight> we are here 24/7/12
[18:32] <Dr_willis> !apt | reuf
[18:32] <Ihsan_> I get a black screen that flickers and its says something like: diconnected from plymouth
[18:32] <Ihsan_> and then I get back to login screen
[18:33] <Ihsan_> Im currently logged in as guest
[18:33] <Ihsan_> I cant login to my own account..
[18:33] <Ihsan_> please help me
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  how about your normal user account?
[18:33] <Ihsan_> I typ in my password
[18:33] <Ihsan_> and then I get a black screen it says blablabla: disconnected from plymouth
[18:33] <Ihsan_> and then I get back to login screen
[18:33] <Ihsan_> I can only login with Guest account
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  you said that allready... like 10 sec ago...
[18:34] <ncp> Ihsan_, what has changed since it worked? did you play with anything relevant to this issue?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  you are trying to login as the user 'root' ? or do you have an actual user added?
[18:34] <Ihsan_> No, I just installed screen capturing program
[18:34] <Ihsan_> No just user
[18:34] <Ihsan_> Iḿ new to ubuntu i can say wrong words :)
[18:34] <Ihsan_> My normal account that i created when I installed ubuntu
[18:34] <L3top> !enter | Ihsan_
[18:34] <Ihsan_> Sorry.
[18:35] <divineslight> !enter | L3top
[18:35] <Ihsan_> Do you know what the problem can be??
[18:35] <divineslight> !spam | Ihsan_
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  so try going to the console 'alt-ctrl-f1' (alt-ctral-f7 to get back tot he desktop) and see if the user can login.
[18:36] <reuf> Dr_willis, ubottu, thanks
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  seems lately people think they cant 'login' when in fact they are logging in, its just X crashing on them back to the Login Screen.
[18:36] <L3top> !msgthebot > divineslight
[18:37] <divineslight> who is this l3top guy?
[18:37] <Ihsan_> Yes I am able to login from the console..
[18:37] <ncp> dunno, but he is funny :P
[18:37] <Ihsan_> So I'm crashing when I want to login
[18:38] <fellayaboy> hey sorry i got booted out...i cant boot into the gui..i just get booted automatically into console...tty1... i tried to use lightdm and boot using X but all i get is the screen where the modules are loaded and then it just hangs and freezes
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Ihsan_,  as a test. use the console logined user.. and add a new user 'sudo adduser billgates'    THEN at the Login screen see if 'billgates' can login correctly
[18:39] <L3top> fellayaboy: please give me the output of lspci -nnk | grep VGA -a2       in a pastebin
[18:39] <Ihsan_> allright
[18:39] <fellayaboy> ok brb
[18:40] <Sebboh> I have added a PPA via the add-apt-repository method.  The PPA contains packages for oneiric and precise.  I'm running precise, but the package I want is from oneiric.  How do I install it?  (I could manually download the .deb, but I'd rather learn to do it "the ubuntu way" (if there is one!).)
[18:40] <Dr_willis> Sebboh,  what package is in Oneriric but not in Percise?
[18:41] <Dr_willis> Sebboh,  the ubuntu way is to NOT mix differnt release versions packages. ;)
[18:42] <Sebboh> Dr_willis, I'm using a PPA.  As I understand it, the PPA maintainers could put this package into their precise section, but they didn't.
[18:42] <Dr_willis> there may be other PPA's with versions for 12.04
[18:42] <L3top> Sebboh: then it is not available.
[18:42] <Dr_willis> You dont mix differnt release versions..
[18:42] <L3top> Do not cross the streams...
[18:42] <divineslight> or you will create Ubuntu remixed edition
[18:42] <Sebboh> FYI, the package I want is a dri driver for r128, which won't build with mesa 8.0, but does build in mesa 7.11, so the trick is to just borrow the bins from 7.11, and it will run fine on my 8.0 system.
[18:43] <divineslight> in Two boats!
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Sebboh,  i would be very suprised if it 'run find'
[18:43] <Sefid_Par> How can I install gspca?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> fine. :)
[18:43] <Dr_willis> !info gspca
[18:43] <Ihsan__> Okay, I did 'sudo adduser billgates' and then I'm able to login, I only can't login to my main account.....
[18:43] <XiRoN> Is there a command to deny a specific user to login via SSH?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Sefid_Par,  and whats gspca? tryed a 'apt-cache search gspca' ?
[18:44] <Ihsan__> I get error Mountall(or something): Disconnected from plymouth.
[18:44] <L3top> Sebboh: why do you want to try and create that driver? It should be covered by radeon now days.
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  so that shows its some setting in the problem users account thats the issue.
[18:44] <Ihsan__> Yeah, so what should I do now?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  i doubt if thats the error.. thats most likely the console flashing by.
[18:44] <Sefid_Par> Dr_willis: It is a webcam driver. Thank you, I am going to check.
[18:44] <Ihsan__> weird
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__, is there any imporntant settings that user has?  You can delet the various .config dirs and reset their settings or tyr a command like 'unity --reset' or 'unity --reset-icons' and tyr logging in
[18:45] <Sefid_Par> Dr_willis: Got nothing.
[18:45] <Ihsan__> Well not really but I have installed games and programs Iḿ using, will they get deleted when I use that commands??
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  you could also try a differnt desktop session  from the 'gear' icon on the login screen and see if any other ones work.
[18:46] <Ihsan__> I did, but the problem is the same
[18:46] <Sebboh> I accept the consequences of mixing Ubuntu releases.  Your surprise about it "running fine" won't affect whether or not it does run fine. :)  (Folks, we're talking about rage128_dri.so here.. it's a video card driver.  It will work fine if I manually download the .deb and install it.  I just want to learn how to make a package in the oneiric section of a PPA show up on my Precise system so I can apt-get install it.  ...I guess I don't really need to do th
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  users home dir does not hold stuff you installed by the package manager. Just any configs and perhaps saved games.
[18:46] <fellayaboy> hey i cant pastebin right now but this is what i have as the kernal driver fglrx_pci
[18:46] <Sebboh> (Isn't this the point of PPAs?)
[18:46] <Ihsan__> Allright, so what do I have to do now? Could you please explain it in steps since im new to ubuntu?  :)
[18:46] <xangua> Sebboh: mixing repositories¿ nop :)
[18:47] <Kira-Phoenix> hello
[18:47] <Sebboh> L3top, actually, mesa 8.0 broke dri support for rage128 cards.  Too old, wontfix.  Work around is: install the rage 128 dri driver from mesa 7.11.  ...Thus my question. ;)
[18:47] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/70572/reset-unity-and-gnome-to-default-values
[18:48] <Kira-Phoenix> Could I have someone help me install ubuntu on a flash drive and then making it bootable?
[18:48] <Ihsan__> Allright thanks will look at it
[18:48] <xangua> !usb | Kira-Phoenix
[18:48] <xangua> or just follow ubuntu.com instructions
[18:48] <L3top> Sebboh: This is not my understanding, but my understanding could be wrong. Will research. What PPA are you using?
[18:49] <Kira-Phoenix> I followed the steps for Mac OS X, and it's on the flash drive, but the system won't recognize it as a bootable drive
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  thers several 'answers'  so read through them all first.
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Ihsan__,  id start with  gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[18:49] <Dr_willis>      then  unity --reset
[18:49] <Sebboh> L3top: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001548 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2012-March/019628.html
[18:50] <fellayaboy> hey i cant log into x i tried lightdm and X but i still get automatically logged into console...my kernal driver in use is fglrx_pci
[18:50] <Sebboh> L3top: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/oneiric/main/base/mesa-legacy
[18:50] <Kira-Phoenix> anyone have any ideas for forcing a mac to recognize a linux drive as a bootable drive?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  seems you are about the 4th person today with a similer issue. ;)
[18:51] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  console works? Guest user works? Tried making a new user via console see if they work?
[18:51] <Ihsan__> allright will try thanks
[18:51] <fellayaboy> it has to do with that update dr_willis..i dont know if ur trying to imply i keep that i keep asking but i need help big time
[18:51] <L3top> try xswat Sebboh. https://launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-r128
[18:52] <Sebboh> Kira-Phoenix: I don't know how to do it, but it has something to do with EFI.  Hope this sends you in the right direction! :)
[18:52] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  literally in the last 30 min - i thionk thers been 3+ people who cant login to the desktop.
[18:52] <Sebboh> L3top, checking, thanks.
[18:52] <Kira-Phoenix> EFI…i'm not too familiar with that.
[18:52] <fellayaboy> no dr_willis i didnt try all that..do u think creating a new user will actually work>?...i mean im logged in right now using the console...
[18:52] <fellayaboy> im using irc
[18:52] <Dr_willis> fellayaboy,  its a trouble shooting step.
[18:52] <fellayaboy> ok wel let me se
[18:53] <Dr_willis> If a new user works.. old user dosent.. => your users settings may be the issue.
[18:53] <L3top> fellayaboy: can I get the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA at least?
[18:53] <fellayaboy> the thing is that i cant use pastebin im stuck in console...
[18:53] <L3top> thats fine... that is one line
[18:53] <L3top> drop it here.
[18:53] <fellayaboy> oh ok hol don
[18:54]  * L3top is just trying to see if it is related to a driver/chipset Dr_willis
[18:55] <fellayaboy> 01.05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [mobility Radeon HD 4200 series] [1002:9712]
[18:56] <Sebboh> L3top, I don't understand your link.  It appears to be the default rage 128 driver for Ubuntu 12.04...  And that's the one that isn't DRI capable anymore.
[18:56] <Katronix> afternoon all, can anyone recommend a good website to look at for setting up Ubuntu as a web server?
[18:56] <Nith> Hello
[18:57] <Nith> Has anyone had their default language change to chinese after an update recently?
[18:58] <L3top> sorry  Sebboh, you are correct. I linked out of x-swat. My mistake russhing.
[18:59] <L3top> fellayaboy: does lsmod | grep fglrx return a result?
[18:59] <fellayaboy> can someone help
[18:59] <fellayaboy> let me see hold on
[18:59] <fellayaboy> yes it returns 3263966 0
[19:00] <Griffrez> I have GNOME 3 Classic. The clock is on AM/PM mode, how can I change it to 24-hour? I tried the Time and Date settings, but that isn't influenciating GNOME's clock.
[19:00] <fellayaboy> L3top it returns 3263966 0
[19:01] <fellayaboy> ive been getting so many crash reports before complaining about xorg. or color.d
[19:01] <Ihsan_> Hey I'm back, it didn't work for me, I stil lget the same error :(
[19:01] <fellayaboy> but i never modified any of there contents
[19:01] <Sebboh> Thanks for your help, L3top.  And others.
[19:01] <Katronix> afternoon all, can anyone recommend a good website to look at for setting up Ubuntu as a web server?
[19:02] <trism> Griffrez: if you are using indicator-datetime, then it is in those settings, but you can only access them from unity
[19:02] <L3top> fellayaboy: I want to give you a list of commands. I will pm you again.
[19:02] <trism> Griffrez: as a workaround, you can use: gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.datetime time-format 24-hour
[19:02] <Ihsan_> Help me, I get this error when I want to login in my account: *blabla* Mountall: Disconnected from plymouth. (This only happens on my main account, I am able to login on guest).
[19:02] <jagginess> anyone here knows where all the terminals are listed? (/usr/share/terminfo shows-- but nowhere for TERM=linux , i see "linux-vt" but no "linux")
[19:03] <Griffrez> trism: Thanks a lot. C:
[19:04] <Griffrez> trism: Is there a way to make the clock at the center of the panel?
[19:06] <trism> Griffrez: if you add the clock applet, it should be in the center, otherwise not really easy to move them around
[19:07] <Griffrez> How do I create that applet?
[19:08] <fellayaboy> well ima reboot right now and see if that worked brb
[19:08] <trism> Griffrez: alt+right click the panel
[19:08] <fellayaboy> exit
[19:08] <trism> Griffrez: or possibly alt+super+right click if you are using compiz
[19:09] <Griffrez> trism: I'm using GNOME Classic 3
[19:09] <Griffrez> trism Alt + RBM is doing nothing. :S
[19:10] <trism> Griffrez: well, there are two versions, the (no effects) one uses metacity, and alt+right click should work, the other uses compiz, and you generally need alt+super+right click because compiz captures alt+right click
[19:10] <Griffrez> What does the super mean?
[19:10] <Griffrez> <--- N00b
[19:11] <trism> Griffrez: the windows key
[19:11] <Griffrez> Ah. :P
[19:11] <fellayaboy> where is default.list located?
[19:12] <Griffrez> trism: Ops. I accidently took the default icons off...
[19:13] <trism> Griffrez: indicator applet complete is the default applet at the top right
[19:13] <Griffrez> trism: :D Thanks, once again.
[19:14] <fellayaboy> thats what im doing right now
[19:15] <fellayaboy> i tried to do soemthign and it said that it had broken packages or something so im hoping this will work now
[19:16] <L3top> Well... then it is unlikely the other commands completed
[19:16] <lunx> Good day!
[19:16] <lunx> Where i can finde developer download-monitor? Some 1 can help me?
[19:17] <fellayaboy> wow
[19:17] <fellayaboy> well if this doesnt work then ima just reinstall the crap again..ive been having so much problems with ubuntu lately
[19:17] <Griffrez> trism: I can't seem to be able to move the clock. o- o
[19:17] <fellayaboy> griffrez alt+rightclick move
[19:18] <trism> Griffrez: if you are trying to move indicator-datetime, you won't be able to, the clock applet is different
[19:19] <Griffrez> trism: I understood that. C: But thanks for the reminder. I do have the seperate applet. But, related to that, is there a way to hide the Full Indicator's datetime section? Just that section?
[19:19] <lunx> fellayaboy: ty, just finde bag and fix it, try help.
[19:21] <trism> Griffrez: you would have to uninstall it, unfortunately that will remove it from unity-greeter if you use that
[19:21] <fellayaboy> BINGO! it worked l3top
[19:21] <Griffrez> trism: I don't intend to use Unity... and I suppose I can reinstall it if necessary, I guess?
[19:22] <fellayaboy> so tell me what causes x to crash like that or not run?.... bad drivers??
[19:22] <trism> Griffrez: you can: sudo apt-get remove indicator-datetime;
[19:23] <L3top> Dr_willis: may I pm you?
[19:23] <Dr_willis> L3top,  im in and out right now. Wifes doing  a Rummage Sale - so im babysitting the grandkids.
[19:23] <Dr_willis> Never know when the kids will set the dog on fire again......
[19:23] <L3top> Understood
[19:24] <fellayaboy> wow hes an elder...a wise wizard
[19:24] <Dr_willis> a Neck-Beard ;')
[19:24] <fellayaboy> lol
[19:24] <Griffrez> trism: Do I have to log off and in to apply?
[19:25] <trism> Griffrez: that or remove/add the indicator applet or killall gnome-panel;
[19:26] <fellayaboy> hey how do you scroll up and down in console??
[19:26] <Griffrez> trism: Working. :) Thanks for everything. :D
[19:26] <Griffrez> trism: Wanna help me again? :P
[19:26] <guntbert> fellayaboy: shift+pgup/pgdn
[19:26] <fellayaboy> i couldnt scroll up or down..usually i use ctl+alt up and down to scroll but in console u cant..does anyone know how to do that?? i even tried pageup and down but nothing
[19:26] <trism> Griffrez: you're welcome, and just ask the channel, I'll chime in if I know
[19:27] <fellayaboy> oh ok
[19:27] <fellayaboy> thanks guntbert
[19:27] <guntbert> fellayaboy: you're welcome :)
[19:28] <Griffrez> Well, I'm using GNOME Classic 3, and I wanna know how I can change the color of the characters and numbers,etc. of the text on the panels (Like the clock applet, change the color of the date and time... etc.)
[19:28] <fellayaboy> i tell ya i need a lil bit more crashes to spice up my knowledge..
[19:29] <L3top> Dr_willis etc... I am half here. If more peoples desktops are borked after upgrade on ATI using fglrx this was how I restored. http://pastebin.com/ZAYs2nR0
[19:29] <xurious> I'm trying to get a program to autostart on boot. I added a script in /etc/init.d and made sure  it was set to executable. However, it is still not working. Anyone have any tips on getting something to start on boot that is relatively idiot proof?
[19:31] <L3top> xurious: sudo update-rc.d script_name defaults
[19:34] <fellayaboy> thats probably what went wrong
[19:34] <fellayaboy> thats why i crashed etc and have been having all these problems
[19:34] <fellayaboy> i see
[19:35] <fellayaboy> from what i remember i believe i had to use the driver from the website because i needed to get my hdmi to work but its very vague at the moment why i used the website
[19:36] <L3top> fellayaboy: aplay -l | grep -i hdmi
[19:36] <Griffrez> No one can help me with my "issue"?
[19:37] <fellayaboy> card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[19:37] <fellayaboy> Griffrez whats up
[19:37] <Griffrez> I posted "Well, I'm using GNOME Classic 3, and I wanna know how I can change the color of the characters and numbers,etc. of the text on the panels (Like the clock applet, change the color of the date and time... etc.)"
[19:37] <L3top> fellayaboy: speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -l 1 -D hw:1,3
[19:38] <fellayaboy> L3top ill pastebin u the results brb
[19:38] <L3top> fellayaboy: I dont need that. Did it make noise or spit errors?
[19:39] <fellayaboy> no it didnt
[19:39] <fellayaboy> no noise
[19:39] <L3top> sorry fellayaboy... let me start over... when I see "get my hdmi to work" I assume audio for some reason...
[19:39] <L3top> Is that what you meant? HDMI audio?
[19:40] <fellayaboy> its ok
[19:40] <fellayaboy> yeah usually it was the audio before
[19:40] <fellayaboy> i couldnt get it to work
[19:40] <fellayaboy> so i believe i had to use the latest driver..thats what i read from a website
[19:40] <fellayaboy> i think thats why i had used the driver from the website
[19:40] <L3top> It is the same driver. The latest driver will only break your stuff.
[19:40] <fellayaboy> after i updated it worked
[19:40] <L3top> ?
[19:40] <L3top> interesting.
[19:41] <Griffrez> BRB
[19:41] <fellayaboy> yeah if i remember correctly which i do belive is t he correct reason i used the website driver...
[19:41] <fellayaboy> well forget it..im no longer using drivers and programs out of the scope of the operating system
[19:41] <Maximus_1st> is there a way to sync my homne folder and my windows "My Documents" at startup of ubuntu
[19:41] <XiRoN> What are the potential risks of giving www-data root privileges
[19:42] <L3top> fellayaboy: I can probably make your hdmi audio work if you want.
[19:42] <fellayaboy> i think with Maxiumus_1st situation it involves a script if im not mistaken
[19:42] <legolas> hello all can you get me the best python irc ?
[19:43] <xurious> L3top: is there an easy to get around the lsbinit part of the s cript?
[19:43] <xurious> #python?
[19:43] <Maximus_1st> script that would be run at startup of my system, when i boot ubuntu?
[19:43] <fellayaboy> yes or when u give it the command to from your shell or whatever u want
[19:43] <L3top> I do not know what you are referring to xurious.
[19:43] <ch_> can anybody tell me how to configure bitlbee?
[19:43] <Maximus_1st> alright imma check it out
[19:43] <fellayaboy> go to #bash
[19:44] <fellayaboy> maybe they already have script they can give u
[19:44] <Maximus_1st> thanks
[19:44] <samster34> hi guys...I have a video driver problem. the default driver that comes with 12.04 doesn't recognize my screens proper resolutions, and only recognizes 1 screen. And if I install actual nvidia drivers, nothing works
[19:44] <ch_> shall I go to #bash in case of bitlbee?
[19:45] <L3top> fellayaboy: first please try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=auto        to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf   then sudo alsa reload
[19:45] <m4tthumphrey> hey all
[19:45] <fellayaboy> let me see
[19:45] <m4tthumphrey> can someone give me some advice on how to partition
[19:45] <fellayaboy> ch_ idk what u mean by bitlbee
[19:45] <TJPeden> So, I took my FreeBSD server which had a zfs pool and installed Ubuntu server on it and installed the ZFS-Native stuff from the PPA but when it mounts the pool there are no files in the mount point, if I play around with exporting and importing and such I can get them to show up, any idea what would cause this issue?
[19:45] <m4tthumphrey> ie the best set up for my needs
[19:45] <legolas> can any body write the best python irc?
[19:45] <ch_> bitlbee i
[19:45] <m4tthumphrey> linux noon btw
[19:46] <ch_> using bitlbee with irc you can connect to facebook-chat, jabber, google chat and so on from fx irssi or any other irc-client
[19:46] <legolas> can any body inform the best irc for python?
[19:46] <Maximus_1st> i use empathy
[19:47] <fellayaboy> u know what L3top i dont even need to do anything cause it works
[19:47] <ch_> i like the commandline ...
[19:47] <Maximus_1st> witch is quit good with irc , and stilll can connect to facebook, jabber , windows live , yahoochat gtalk etc
[19:48] <L3top> great fellayaboy. Like I said... they are the same driver.
[19:48] <fellayaboy> the hdmi audio works fine...i guess i totally missed up...i think i installed those website drivers without first changing from built in audio to hdmi audio in sound settings fromt he sound panel on the top right panel
[19:48] <samster34> help...I don't really need awesome 3d performance, so I don't really need the nvidia drivers, I'd just like to use my screens proper resolution (2560x1440), and the other screens as well if possible...
[19:48] <ch_> empathy is good as long your computer is faster than mine ... i need progs with little footprint .. irssi and bitlbee
[19:48] <fellayaboy> im so use to windows where when i pluged in the hdmi the audio will work right away
[19:48] <TJPeden> samster34: just install the drivers, that's what they are for
[19:49] <samster34> TJPeden: if I install nvidia-current drivers, I get nothing at all
[19:49] <fellayaboy> that spiraled me down to the point of the crash im guessing...but itcould still be an issue with the update so idk
[19:49] <L3top> samster34: you will need the nvidia driver... what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:49] <TJPeden> samster34: ouch :-/
[19:49] <guntbert> XiRoN: when a user can launch an exploit against your web server they will be able to run any command with the permissions of www-...
[19:50] <fellayaboy> thats cool ch_ i didnt know all that
[19:50] <samster34> TJPeden: http://pastebin.com/brNV94Jm
[19:50] <fellayaboy> hey Griff*
[19:50] <samster34> L3top: err, you too
[19:50] <Jids> i just downloaded and burned the latest ubuntu x64 to do a test on memory... how do i do it?
[19:51] <Jids> when i boot, it goes straight to language and then install/try
[19:51] <m4tthumphrey> :(
[19:51] <samster34> L3top, TJPeden: first card is a GTX 670, second a 570
[19:52] <kosko> scp is recursive, right?
[19:52] <L3top> samster34: you will probably have better luck with nvidia-current-updates... but first you need to make sure you do not still have nvidia-current installed.
[19:52] <kosko> i.e. i can copy the whole directory?
[19:52] <kosko> with it's content?
[19:52] <trism> kosko: with -r it is
[19:52] <samster34> L3top: this is a fresh live system
[19:52] <L3top> samster34: also please run: update-pciids
[19:53] <L3top> now if you rerun the lspci -nn | grep VGA you will get a better result.
[19:53] <samster34> L3top: ok, now it recognizes the 670 as that :)
[19:53] <fellayaboy> clear
[19:54] <Jids> does anyone know how to run a memtest in the latest ubuntu (x64)?
[19:54] <samster34> L3top: what do I do if this turns into a disaster again? boot with nomodeset?
[19:54] <fellayaboy> hey when using screen...how do u scroll up and down?? i tried shift+pgup and down but nothing
[19:54] <guntbert> fellayaboy: ctrl+a, esc
[19:54] <muelli> fellayaboy: ^a+[, then you can move on the screen, i.e. with page up
[19:54] <guntbert> fellayaboy: then pgup/dn
[19:55] <kosko> trism: thanks
[19:55] <fellayaboy> guntbert it didnt work actually
[19:55] <fellayaboy> i think u have to use ctrl a and somethign else hold on
[19:55] <muelli> kosko: you can also set screen up in a way that allows you to use your terminal's scollback buffer. But I haven't found how to do that properly yet.
[19:56] <Slasher`> anyone know how i can remove a program from an install that wont boot with a live cd please?
[19:56] <muelli> fellayaboy: ^a+[ gives you copy-mode. You can navigate then on the screen.
[19:56] <samster34> secondary problem, under ubuntu my wireless gets me slows as crap internet download speeds
[19:56] <muelli> Slasher`: erm. what? apt-get remove will uninstall things for you.
[19:56] <fellayaboy> yes im seeing hold on
[19:57] <Slasher`> muelli; i can't boot the system in question though, it is failing to boot and i suspect webcamstudio to be the problem
[19:57] <muelli> Slasher`: very unlikely.
[19:57] <muelli> Slasher`: how do you know that you can't boot?
[19:57] <Slasher`> it's hanging at "depmod -ae" "WARNING: -e needs -E or -F"
[19:57] <rhizmoe> does anybody know gnu-screen well? can i convert two windows into a split-screen?
[19:57] <_raven> xubuntu 12.04 - how to install also "non-vital" packages automatically without the need of clicking "install all" every day?
[19:57] <samster34> on win7 the reception is still crappy, but the network speed doesn't drop to 26Mb/s like it does here...
[19:57] <fellayaboy> rhizmoe go to youtube
[19:58] <Slasher`> muelli; if i could remove it from the startup somehow then that would eliminate that being a possible issue
[19:58] <Slasher`> i don't need webcamstudio anyway
[19:58] <fellayaboy> just type in gnu linux in youtube and youll get some good tutorials rhizmoe
[19:59] <muelli> rhizmoe: ^a+S?
[19:59] <fellayaboy> excuse me i mean gnu screen
[19:59] <guntbert> rhizmoe: have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html
[19:59] <rhizmoe> muelli: testing...
[19:59] <ringthestar> anyone has problem after installing GNOME for 12.04? @@
[19:59] <muelli> Slasher`: eh. well. you can boot any medium, chroot into your actual system and then do whatever you like. i.e. apt-get remove
[19:59] <muelli> !anyone | ringthestar
[19:59] <samster34> anyone have a clue why wireless would be so much slower on ubuntu, while it's fine on win7?
[20:00] <rhizmoe> ah, nice. sorry for n00b-ungooglage
[20:00] <xurious> L3top: My script are on the first 2 lines, results of the update rc.d as the rest. http://pastebin.com/FxuQjLk7
[20:00] <Jids> no one knows how to run a memtest in the latest ubuntu?
[20:00] <Slasher`> muelli; do you have a tutorial anywhere for doing the chroot please?
[20:00] <rhizmoe> thanks for not biting my head off :)
[20:00] <Griffrez> Ah. What is the repository package for KDE shell?
[20:00] <Slasher`> well, a recommended one
[20:00] <BobMarley> how do i check if i have the binutils installed?
[20:00] <muelli> Slasher`: man chroot
[20:00] <Slasher`> thanks
[20:00] <Slasher`> :)
[20:00] <ringthestar> !details
[20:00] <Slasher`> never thought of that
[20:00] <muelli> BobMarley: apt-cache policy binutils
[20:02] <kosko> muelli: it is ctrl a then [
[20:02] <ringthestar> !gq
[20:02] <muelli> kosko: yes, obviously
[20:02] <dubaco> i need to prevent ubuntuone from satrting
[20:02] <ringthestar> !poll
[20:02] <L3top> xurious: look at some other scripts in /etc/init.d  it wants information as to when to start it, etc... does networking need to be up first... etc...
[20:02] <kosko> muelli: and i don't know why you told me that :)
[20:02] <TJPeden> How do I tell Ubuntu server to load the ZFS driver on boot?
[20:02] <muelli> kosko: well. I presumed you used screen at least a little.
[20:02] <tensorpudding> what zfs driver is that
[20:03] <guntbert> !askthebot | ringthestar
[20:03] <tensorpudding> how are you currently using this driver?
[20:03] <TJPeden> ZFS-Native
[20:03] <kosko> muelli: i mean i asked question about recursive scp copying :)
[20:03] <xurious> L3top: Thanks, was hoping there was a more idiot friendly method.
[20:03] <kosko> muelli: or was it just a personal question?
[20:03] <kosko> muelli: "you can also"
[20:04] <tensorpudding> TJPeden, where is the module?
[20:04] <L3top> xurious: to be clear... it should work anyway. it is just complaining that it wanted it.
[20:04] <Jids> L3top: any idea how to do a memory test?
[20:04] <TJPeden> tensorpudding: I'm not sure I follow? I installed it from a PPA
[20:04] <L3top> !memtest
[20:04] <xurious> Yea, I tested it out and it never started. I'll investigate the other scripts and see if I can cobble something together.
[20:05] <xurious> Thanks by the way!
[20:05] <L3top> np xurious... Jids on your install cd one of the options is memtest
[20:05] <muelli> TJPeden: I guess you can put the module in smth like /etc/modules-load.d/
[20:05] <tensorpudding> TJPeden, kernel modules are .ko files that are stored somewhere
[20:05] <muelli> like the name
[20:05] <fellayaboy> just for curiousity sake whats important about doing a mem test what is it testing...
[20:06] <L3top> fellayaboy: it is testing your system memory (RAM).
[20:06] <tensorpudding> i think in /lib/modules/<kernel version>/
[20:06] <TJPeden> tensorpudding, right, but like I said, it was installed by apt... I don't know where it is
[20:06] <kosko> muelli: answer! have confused me with someone else? :)
[20:06] <tensorpudding> but since your module isn't part of the upstream kernel, i don't know where they'd put it
[20:06] <tensorpudding> but how are you using it now
[20:06] <muelli> kosko: maybe. sorry if I did. there are so many nicks here. I might have tabbed wrongly -.-
[20:07] <avis> hows everyones sight ?
[20:07] <avis> oops
[20:07] <kosko> muelli: it is ok, i was just curious :)
[20:07] <tensorpudding> do you modprobe it directly
[20:07] <tensorpudding> maybe the package added a suitable file to /etc/modprobe.d/
[20:07] <fellayaboy> oh ok i googled memtest+ to get a more indepth explation
[20:08] <tensorpudding> usually the file /etc/modules tells which modules to be inserted at boot time
[20:08] <TJPeden> Well, it seems that when I use the zpool command to export and re-import the pool it loads the module and then I can see my files... before that it shows as being mounted but with no files in the mount point
[20:08] <tensorpudding> weird
[20:09] <TJPeden> tensorpudding, word
[20:09] <fellayaboy> hey is it possible to automatically login into a screen shell when you ssh into a server
[20:10] <TJPeden> tensorpudding, immediately after reboot: https://gist.github.com/3067944
[20:10] <tensorpudding> maybe you didn't install the kernel module
[20:10] <tensorpudding> though i don't know how you'd do it otherwise...
[20:10] <tensorpudding> oh
[20:11] <tensorpudding> so the zfs module is already there
[20:11] <tensorpudding> on boot
[20:11] <tensorpudding> so then your problem is solved already
[20:11] <fellayaboy> take care guys
[20:11] <muelli> fellayaboy: sure. You could define "screen" as your shell. Check "chsh". Or you could force the command onto your SSH users via a sshd_config.
[20:11] <fellayaboy> thanks muelli
[20:11] <TJPeden> Well, sort of
[20:11] <tensorpudding> the problem them would be that your zfs filesystems aren't being mounted
[20:11] <tensorpudding> and that, i don't know how to handle
[20:12] <fellayaboy> oh wow chsh looks promising
[20:12] <guntbert> fellayaboy: install byobu (a screen with candy :-), in the menu you can set it to start automatically
[20:12] <tensorpudding> freebsd runs some kind of zfs mount command that finds zfs filesystems and mounts them for you, it doesn't use fstab
[20:12] <fellayaboy> thanks guntbert
[20:12] <TJPeden> tensorpudding, thanks for your help though :-)
[20:12] <tensorpudding> that might be what you need to do, or it might not
[20:13] <TJPeden> the documentation for ZFS on Linux says it does that too :-/
[20:15] <samster34> L3top: well that didnt work so great. installed nvidia-current-update, black screen on reboot, and trying any of the text terminals gives me a flashing red screen. nomodeset does nothing.
[20:16] <Slasher`> ok got rid of that error... can anyone please tell me how to reset the x back to default settings please?
[20:17] <muelli> Slasher`: maybe http://superuser.com/questions/69045/how-do-i-get-the-default-configuration-from-a-deb-file helps
[20:17] <samster34> anyone? :(  whichever version of nvidia driver I install, I end up with a black screen and text terminals don't work either, and nomodeset doesn't get me back in either
[20:19] <samster34> is there a general problem with kepler chips, or is something else amiss?
[20:20] <Jids> L3top: actually, it isn't... it goes straight to language, and then asks me if i want to install or run as a LiveCD
[20:21] <Griffrez> Where are all the theme options, like colors?
[20:21] <Griffrez> I use GNOME 3 Classic
[20:22] <Aster> Lol Gnome 3.
[20:22] <Griffrez> What's wrong with GNOME 3?
[20:22] <Griffrez> xD
[20:23] <Slasher`> fixed it muelli many thanks :)
[20:23] <samster34> help? I can't get the drivers to work with my gtx 670
[20:25] <samster34> nobody? :(
[20:25] <Slasher`> i probably won't be able to help you samster34, but if you could provide a little more info, someone else may be able to
[20:27] <samster34> well, system has an i7 2600K, a gtx 670, and I'm trying to install any sort of video driver...and whichever I try, I just get a black screen and not even the text terminals work
[20:28] <samster34> each try has been on a fresh ubuntu since I can't even remove the drivers once everything is messed up
[20:29] <sourav> hi
[20:30] <samster34> so, nobody has video driver issues anymore? :/
[20:32] <i7c> samster34: is the video card on the list of supported hardware?
[20:32] <samster34> list of supported hardware of what, exactly
[20:34] <i7c> ehm hold on a sec
[20:35] <samster34> i7c: the mainboard's support list? ubuntu's? the nvidia driver's?
[20:35] <L3top> sorry Jids.. you could just hit shift repeatedly as you boot to bring up a grub menu, and it will be there as well I believe.
[20:35] <L3top> samster34: The GTX 670 is like, smoking brand new.
[20:35] <L3top> one second
[20:37] <i7c> samster34: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/server/
[20:37] <calamari> I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and I've noticed significantly longer boot times and slowdowns across applications. Did something change in the kernel?
[20:37] <L3top> samster34: BOTH of those cards have no support afaik... I am checking... will take me a second.
[20:37] <samster34> i7c: uhm...?
[20:38] <OerHeks> calamari, disabling IPv6 helped me 9 sec boottime, and browsing is a lot faster.
[20:38] <samster34> L3top: the 570 just alone used to work out of the box with I believe the nouveau drivers :/
[20:38] <samster34> and multiple screens
[20:38] <i7c> samster34: oh sorry that was trash i sent you
[20:39] <i7c> samster34: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/
[20:39] <Galvatron> Unity launcher in 12.04 has problem with returning from the autohide, when you set the top-left screen corner as active. Is there maybe some fix for it?
[20:39] <calamari> OerHeks: interesting
[20:39] <alazare619> can someone tell me what process x/k/ubuntu uses to build the isos after the chroot is squash.fs'd
[20:39] <L3top> samster34: how many screens are you trying to have?
[20:40] <OerHeks> calamari, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Disabling_IPv6
[20:40] <L3top> samster34: the 670 is a rev D card... that might have something to do with it as well... still checking.
[20:40] <samster34> L3top: 3, but just one at proper resolution would be fine...
[20:40] <calamari> OerHeks: thanks
[20:40] <Galvatron> samster34: Have you tried the latest drivers (302.17)?
[20:40] <jase_> could anyone help me with getting a ustart job to work in ubuntu 11.10
[20:40] <samster34> Galvatron: I have no clue. I tried whatever nvidia-current-update is
[20:41] <Galvatron> samster34: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[20:41] <L3top> yeah samster34 NEITHER of those cards are certified on our version of nvidia. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/295.40/README/supportedchips.html
[20:42] <superuser> how do i know what display manager im useing?
[20:42] <L3top> samster34: I recommend, what Galvatron is suggesting.
[20:42] <L3top> samster34: please apt-get remove --purge nvidia*   before trying to install the new one.
[20:42] <lunx> some one can help, what disable bottom menu in gnome shell classic, find in configuration -> panel (need delete all information about bottom panel?) thanks for all help.
[20:42] <samster34> can I just install them via apt-get after adding the repository? or do I have to do some black magic..
[20:42] <terranaut> I'm missing the text under my desktop icons in 12.04 on my laptop (toshiba satellite p-100). I checked with dconf-editor that ubuntu 11 should be used as font.
[20:42] <terranaut> Additionally when i create a new icon using gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new it's very small. Any help appreciated.
[20:43] <roasted> Is there a "top"-like command I can use in terminal to watch my current network traffic?
[20:43] <L3top> correct samster34... once the ppa is added just apt-get
[20:43] <Galvatron> samster34: Yup. You don even need to reinstall - just update.
[20:43] <samster34> ok..because the binary download form nvidia says some stuff about not having any x server running etc
[20:43]  * L3top would still purge and reinstall... 
[20:44] <samster34> Galvatron: there's nothing to update ;9
[20:44] <Griffrez> Where can I change the colors of my GNOME theme?
[20:44] <L3top> samster34: yes you would have to kill x to do that.
[20:44] <Galvatron> Unless your current drivers come dorectly from the nVidia's website (the *.run package).
[20:44] <samster34> L3top: well, there is another problem. I can't get into the text only terminals to do that
[20:44] <samster34> just a black screen
[20:44] <samzhao_> Hi everyone, how do I open files with sublime text in the terminal?
[20:45] <samster34> samzhao_:  sublime file.ext?
[20:45] <samzhao_> samster34: what's that?
[20:45] <Galvatron> samster34: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ==> Alt + Ctrl + Del ==> VOILA!
[20:45] <L3top> samster34: almost guaranteed that it is kicking on ONE of the heads.
[20:46] <samster34> Galvatron: wha, huh? that will select the newest driver and install it?
[20:46] <samster34> L3top: ???
[20:50] <alazare619> can someone tell me what process x/k/ubuntu uses to build the isos after the chroot is squash.fs'd
[20:51] <gnexus> hello. I just want to let everyone here know that a new Allwinner A10 Lubuntu 12.04 LTS SD card has been uploaded to our site which fixes the previous wireless bug.
[20:51] <xurious> Yea, I've triple checked. UDP 53 is forwarded. And TCP
[20:51] <xurious> MT
[20:52] <samster34> Galvatron, L3top: ok back, back on ubuntu now..
[20:53] <Griffrez> What is the best variant of Java's Runtime for Ubuntu?
[20:53] <Griffrez> In terms of performance
[20:53] <Galvatron> samster34: Yes
[20:53] <samster34> so, even if I have no nvidia driver installed, the line you wrote will download it? or do I still have to do sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-driver ?
[20:54] <Galvatron> samster34: This PPA is updated regularly, so you will automatically always have the latest drivers.
[20:54] <samster34> no, I mean now.
[20:54] <Cong> I need a way to add files into a tar archive without the directory. I don't want to go into the directory to make it. I just want all the files in the directory in the tar archive.
[20:54] <timothyjr> Whereś a good site for downloading utilities?
[20:55] <Galvatron> samster34: Yes. 302.17 is the latest stable release from nVidia.
[20:55] <samster34> Galvatron: do I need to get the drivers myself the first time, for it to update them, or will it just download drivers for any hardware I have?
[20:55] <timothyjr> cpu temperature, cpu overhead, etc.
[20:55] <Catbus_> are there laptops sold with linux?
[20:55] <Catbus_> i have never seen a laptop for sale without windows pre-installed
[20:56] <Chad___> Catbus_: Try System76 or ZaReason
[20:56] <Galvatron> samster34: What drivers? Other than the graphics card, all the other drivers are in the kernell.
[20:56] <Griffrez> Catbus, it's really easy to install Linux.
[20:56] <Griffrez> I don't see the problem, in that.
[20:56] <samster34> Galvatron: yes, the graphics driver. do I need to tell it to install the nvidia drivers myself, or not?
[20:56] <Galvatron> Galvatron: Like the chipset, sound, networking etc.
[20:56] <Catbus_> thanks Chad___¬
[20:57] <Galvatron> samster34: Have you already installed nvidia-current?
[20:57] <samster34> no!
[20:57] <samster34> when I do, the system becomes unusable
[20:57] <L3top> samster34: the nvidia-graphics-driver == nvidia-current from that ppa
[20:58] <aguitel> why unity and gnome 3 are too ugly ?
[20:58] <Galvatron> Did you ads the PPA I gave you and update the repository list?
[20:58] <samster34> L3top, right, so what do I type now... sudo apt-get install nvidia-current or nvidia-graphics-driver?!
[20:58] <Galvatron> \*add
[20:58] <L3top> the difference between it and what you have done samster34 is that it is version 302.xx vs 295.40
[20:58] <L3top> samster34: either would do the same thing, but I would go with current
[20:59] <samster34> Galvatron: still in the process of doing that
[20:59] <Galvatron> When you're done, just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[20:59] <samster34> just out of curiosity...where exactly will it install the driver if I'm doing this on a live ubuntu with no persistence file
[20:59] <L3top> samster34: the command Galvatron gave you will add the ppa, do an update, and install nvidia current which will NOW be 302.xx
[21:00] <Galvatron> But the driver will NOT be installed to the existing installation, on the HDD.
[21:00] <Galvatron> If this is your intent
[21:01] <samster34> Galvatron: there IS no existing installation
[21:01] <samster34> I'm just confused, if I have no persistence file, where does it put the rather large driver?
[21:03] <Cong> just a guess, in ram
[21:03] <samster34> so, if I were to reboot, the driver would be gone?
[21:03] <Galvatron> To tell the truth, I've never checked how exactly the LiveCDs work.
[21:03] <Galvatron> :P
[21:03] <samster34> I have some spare room on a hard drive if I really need to do a proper install, but just keeping the live one on my flash drive would be a lot more comfortable
[21:04] <Galvatron> You're checking things before installing the system?;)
[21:04] <samster34> argh, so yeah I'm back to..why is my wireless so slow on ubuntu :(
[21:04] <samster34> update is taking forever
[21:04] <samster34> upgrade, rather
[21:05] <samster34> Galvatron: well, not exactly. I use win7 mainly, but I do need lnux every now and then
[21:05] <Galvatron> I recommend  you rather install the system on the HDD
[21:05] <samster34> plugging in a flash drive is a lot more comfortable than shuffling hard drives around
[21:06] <samster34> and more importantly...recreating it is a lot quicker than doing a reinstall everytime I mess up the drivers >_>
[21:07] <samster34> say, while we're talking...you wouldn't happen to know of a program that is good with resizing huge images with little RAM?
[21:07] <samster34> I have this 14.5GB bitmap that I need to resize, but with the whole thing in memory, there's less than 1GB free RAM
[21:08] <Galvatron> Sorry, but no -  never tried to work with an image that big.
[21:09] <Galvatron> Best install this linux on the HDD, next to Windows
[21:09] <samster34> I'd prefer not to - that's why I need to downsample it :)
[21:09] <samster34> if this works, I might
[21:10] <Galvatron> It's the easiest and lest problematic way. Don't combine with some pendrives, or other detachable drives.
[21:11] <saulotoledo> I'm moving samba installation to a chroot, the install connects at LDAP instalation, but the chrooted machine does not find the groups inside LDAP, I receive the error "cannot find name for group ID 512". What I'm missing?
[21:11] <tensorpudding> imagemagick has options to limit the RAM that it can consume
[21:11] <samster34> tensorpudding: ah, neat, I was using that already
[21:11] <tensorpudding> you might end up swapping heavily anyway though
[21:11] <samster34> I guess I'll need to provide some swap space then...
[21:12] <Galvatron> You can configure GRUB (the Linux bootloader) to load Windows by default. You can also set how long will the system list be visible (3 seconds is just fine).
[21:12] <samster34> taking forever is better than not happening
[21:12] <samster34> Galvatron: I won't be using grub to boot windows
[21:12] <Galvatron> Slow internet onnection?
[21:12] <samster34> Galvatron: ?
[21:13] <Galvatron> samster34: Why not GRUB?
[21:13] <samster34> I prefer to keep the bootloaders isolated to the disks the OS is on :)
[21:13] <samster34> so I can unplug and move them to other PCs easily
[21:14] <Galvatron> Oh, I get it now
[21:14] <jordan__> For some reason I can't get youtube video's to go full screen, anyone know a fix?
[21:14] <Galvatron> What browser?
[21:15] <samster34> Galvatron: ah I can see it's downloading 302.something now. so far so good :)
[21:16] <Galvatron> Without GRUB Ubuntu will not boot on the PC you'll move it to.
[21:16] <samster34> GRUB stays on the disk ubuntu is on, windows' bootloader stays on windows' disk
[21:17] <Galvatron> So I'm not sure if it's not better to have the bootloader on the very same disk.
[21:17] <Galvatron> samster34: OK
[21:17] <ui> Ubuntu LiveCD: I've written too much on /, now it says I haven't more free space. However I have a lot of swap. How can I extend / on the swap?
[21:17] <samster34> I don't know if setting up grub to allow me to resume windows from hibernation is something I want to get into :p
[21:18] <aguitel> why unity and gnome 3 are too ugly ?
[21:18] <Griffrez> How can I make a terminal command shortcut.
[21:18] <Griffrez> Like... run it, and it will run a certain piece of terminal command code.
[21:18] <Griffrez> Similar to a .bat file.
[21:19] <expoernie> <how do <i find out why my HP-mini is so slow on ubuntu?
[21:19] <ui> Griffrez: type in the file what you would type in the terminal
[21:19] <samster34> Griffrez: make a shortcut, and point it to the (executable ) text file with your shell commands in
[21:19] <ui> then prepend this line to the file:
[21:20] <ui> #! /bin/bash
[21:20] <samster34> Galvatron: alright, wish me luck..driver finished installing. gonna reboot...
[21:20] <L3top> #!/bin/bash          ui had a space in his.
[21:20] <Galvatron> samster34: STOP!
[21:21] <samster34> D:
[21:21] <Griffrez> Wait... I'm confused... so... I make a text file?
[21:21] <samster34> Griffrez: yes
[21:21] <ui> yeah, L3top is right
[21:21] <L3top> Yes Griffrez... and begin that text file with the line #!/bin/bash
[21:21] <samster34> Griffrez: you will need to mark the text file as executable
[21:21] <samster34> Galvatron: what is it
[21:21] <L3top> Griffrez: then chmod +x file.name
[21:22] <Galvatron> samster34:: I'm a bit sleepy so I didn't tell you thet rebooting a LiveCD will completely destroy everything
[21:22] <fbh> expoernie: Does it have high load averages?
[21:22] <Griffrez> L3top: Like... in the second line?
[21:22] <L3top> Griffrez: the very first line.
[21:22] <Galvatron> samster34: You can only try restarting X
[21:22] <L3top> Griffrez: what are you trying to get it to do?
[21:22] <ui> Griffrez: #!/bin/bash is the first line of the file
[21:22] <samster34> Galvatron: ok, how do I go about that
[21:22] <Griffrez> xD
[21:22] <geirha> Griffrez: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[21:22] <ui> chmod must be run on the terminal, NOT in the file
[21:22] <expoernie> Is there xchat2 for 12.04 ? I did "sudo apt-get install xchat2" and it did not find xchat2 (I am tripelb, helping ernie)
[21:23] <Griffrez> L3top: Run Minecraft with specifications. :P
[21:23] <Galvatron> samster34: Sorry, it won't work either
[21:23] <samster34> Galvatron: HAHA, OK
[21:23] <samster34> oops
[21:23] <L3top> oh... I see the confusion... sorry see ui's post Griffrez... and geirha has given you a link to the best bash guide on the net
[21:23] <Galvatron> samster34: The system needs a reboot, so the only way its to first have it on a HDD
[21:24] <L3top> Galvatron: he has persistence... I expect it can work...
[21:24] <ui> expoernie: did you enable repository 'universe'?
[21:24] <BUSTACAP> I'm having a problem with my wlan adapter. It's a linksys wusb54g. My internet is going very very very slow. Anyone have any suggestions?
[21:24] <defer_> Hello, is there some way to install ubuntu from other linux os? I have empty partition left.
[21:25] <samster34> L3top: actually, I didn't create a persistence file :D
[21:25] <Galvatron> No. The only way to install the proprietary GPU drivers is to have the os on the disk.
[21:25] <samster34> so, yeah
[21:25] <defer_> Or if not, have anyone found working guide on how to boot iso livecd with grub2?
[21:25] <ui> no defer_, you must be running Ubuntu
[21:25] <samster34> well, I guess it's install time again. :)
[21:25] <defer_> Ok thanks so ill try to somehow boot livecd image with grub :)
[21:25] <Galvatron> samster34: Installing will take you like 10-20 minutes
[21:25] <L3top> ui why could he not debootstrap?
[21:26] <L3top> oh... nm sorry ui
[21:26] <ui> defer_ try with unpacking the ISO and link grub to the unpacked files
[21:26] <giulia27> hello. How can I start chatzilla in /usr/lib/chatzilla please ? Thank you
[21:26] <geirha> Griffrez: Custom commands like that should be put in the directory "bin" (doesn't exist by default) in your homedir, so you might as well run   mkdir -p ~/bin  right away to make sure it exists.
[21:26] <ui> but I personally don't know how to do that, it's +just an idea
[21:27] <Griffrez> ~ = /home ?
[21:27] <guntbert> giulia27: from firefox, under tools if I recall correctly
[21:27] <Griffrez> Just wondering
[21:27] <geirha> Griffrez: run  echo ~  to see
[21:27] <giulia27> guntbert, the thing is that I want to make it work as a standalone
[21:27] <Griffrez> Oh....
[21:27] <defer_> I have managed to get it work times ago with grub1 and memdisk if i remember it right
[21:28] <Griffrez> C: Thanks for the info. :D
[21:28] <Galvatron> giulia27: It should be /usr/bin/chatzilla. The /lib directory contains only libraries, as it's name state - nit the executable binaries.
[21:28] <giulia27> like explained there : http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/
[21:28] <vicesquad> hello all
[21:28] <guntbert> giulia27: no idea, never tried
[21:28] <expoernie> ul -- no <<<i didnt enable it. (I am kind of lost on unity too) will you please tell me how to do that, preferable in terminal.. thanks
[21:28] <L3top> Griffrez: keep in mind that if you are root or this is a startup script ~ will be /root
[21:28] <xsoh_> Hello ت
[21:28] <giulia27> Galvatron, the thing is when I enter the command in the termina, it says that it does not exist
[21:29] <vicesquad> i need some helo with my freshly baked ubuntu 12.04 install
[21:29] <ui> giulia27: run 'locate chatzilla'
[21:29] <expoernie> ul this is Empathy and it did not highlight you answer, grr. <was difficult to find it again. I;m also searching for how to enable repository in a browser window
[21:30] <expoernie> !ask vicesquad
[21:30] <giulia27> ui, it works only with Firefox. On the page http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/ I managed to install it until the step 4
[21:30] <xsoh_> I've got problem with the Image viewer. It doesn't open anything at all even after restart or updates. any ideas?
[21:30] <ui> expoernie: open Software Center, menu Edit >> Software Sources >> enable the universe
[21:30] <expoernie> ul ty
[21:31] <vicesquad> installed using wubi, but the laptop monitor is not displaying anything, have to use a an external monitor to view desktop
[21:31] <Galvatron> giulia27: Have you tried simply "chatzilla" in the terminal?
[21:31] <giulia27> ui, here is the pastebin for "locate chatzilla"
[21:31] <giulia27> http://pastebin.com/x7dD8nLp
[21:31] <L3top> vicesquad: typically there is a combination of fn key + f? to swap outputs
[21:32] <L3top> vicesquad: in my case it is f4
[21:32] <giulia27> Galvatron: yes, and it tells me that it has not been found
[21:32] <Galvatron> giulia27: It seeming didn't install
[21:33] <giulia27> so...
[21:33] <Galvatron> All the files are in the home directory
[21:33] <giulia27> well, strange
[21:33] <Galvatron> Did you follow all these steps
[21:33] <Galvatron> ?
[21:33] <Griffrez> Sorry, guys.
[21:33] <giulia27> because I have followed all the first 4 steps without any problem
[21:33] <Griffrez> Accidently did Ctrl + Alt + F2...
[21:33] <ui> and what happened when you tried step 5?
[21:34] <vicesquad_> sorry for the dropoff, i have done that fn, still nothing, seems set to black?
[21:34] <Galvatron> giulia27: And what's the output of this: ./xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip.?
[21:34] <giulia27> Galvatron, I found in the opt that Chatzilla is not there
[21:34] <samster34> Galvatron: I don't suppose you have an idea why my wireless is so much slower under ubuntu with the same crappy reception as on windows?
[21:34] <ui> without the dot at the end--
[21:34] <giulia27> despite having followed the steps
[21:35] <giulia27> samster34, what computer and model do you have ?
[21:35] <samster34> giulia27: it's not a laptop
[21:36] <Munz> hi! how can i move the launcher to the bottom
[21:36] <giulia27> Galvatron, no file or folder
[21:36] <samster34> giulia27: the wireless antenna is some generic n draft usb antenna.
[21:36] <giulia27> samster34: , yes but which brand and which model ?
[21:36] <Griffrez> I'm trying to do that executable command, but, I can't do it right, I launch it, but the terminal glympses too quick for me to see the error.
[21:36] <giulia27> did you activate the backport deposit ?
[21:36] <samster34> giulia27: it doesn't have a brand, or a model..it's a collection of parts from different brands
[21:36] <Griffrez> How can I make the terminal stay still? Or wait for a prompt to close?
[21:36] <ui> Griffrez: open the terminal, then run the command from there
[21:37] <giulia27> maybe the backports deposit package can help you
[21:37] <Munz> is there is a way to move the launcher to the bottom?!
[21:37] <L3top> vicesquad: echo "$DISPLAY"
[21:37] <Galvatron> Sorry guys, but I must go now
[21:37] <Galvatron> Bye
[21:37] <samster34> Galvatron: thanks for the help
[21:37] <samster34> aw.
[21:37] <Griffrez> Oh, it's related to Minecraft.
[21:38] <Serbia> Hi!
[21:38] <Griffrez> I'll look into it
[21:38] <Munz> hi! is there is a safe way to move the launcher to the bottom
[21:38] <samster34> giulia27: I can list you all the major parts if you like..?
[21:38] <Munz> ?
[21:38] <giulia27> Galvatron: no such file or folder available, here is the error message I get after I enter ./xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip
[21:38] <ShawarmaJunkie> How do I resolve an httpd dependency not satisfiable
[21:39] <giulia27> samster34, do you have any Ethernet cable first ?
[21:39] <giulia27> then, activate the backports deposit package
[21:39] <Serbia> ShawarmaJunkie, may I reccomend
[21:39] <giulia27> normally, after that, Wifi should work
[21:39] <Serbia> ShawarmaJunkie, may I reccomend
[21:39]  * Serbia is now playing: Wiz Khalifa - Hopes & Dreams
[21:39]  * Serbia is now playing: Wiz Khalifa - Hopes & Dreams
[21:39]  * Serbia is now playing: Wiz Khalifa - Hopes & Dreams
[21:39] <FloodBot1> Serbia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <samster34> giulia27: ethernet is not an option
[21:39] <ui> Munz: here it is said it is not supported, by choice
[21:39] <ui> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[21:39] <giulia27> samster34, then I have no idea
[21:39] <samster34> giulia27: wifi works, it's just dropping to extremely low datarates
[21:39] <Munz> thanks
[21:40] <ui> see answer of MestreLion (2nd from the top)
[21:40] <giulia27> samster34 I had the problem with my computer, a laptop, but the backports deposit packages solved the mystery
[21:40] <ui> giulia27: try 'sudo ./xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip'
[21:40] <vicesquad> l3top: thanks but just getting back into linux and a bit rusty]
[21:40] <samster34> backports deposit package...???
[21:40] <giulia27> ok
[21:40] <vicesquad> can you start again please, so sorry for my goof ups
[21:41] <L3top> vicesquad: echo "$DISPLAY"
[21:41] <vicesquad> $DISPLAY
[21:41] <giulia27> ui, I have a command not found
[21:41] <giulia27> yes samster34
[21:41] <vicesquad> "$DISPLAY'
[21:41] <giulia27> it is called like that
[21:41] <ui> what command is not found?
[21:41] <mesoderm> Is there an offline translation tool that is available for Linux? That is, I am looking for something where I can download "language packs" (i.e. one for spanish, one for japanese, one for english, etc.) and then type text into a program just like I do for Google translate, and have it translate the text for me.
[21:41] <giulia27> I utemostely believe that it is a driver problem
[21:42] <mesoderm> I want something that doesn't need an internet connection to do translation.
[21:42] <giulia27> ui, sudo ./xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip is the command not found
[21:42] <ui> there are two commands - sudo and xulrunner. Which one is not found?
[21:42] <KM0201> giulia27: are you in the right directory?
[21:42] <giulia27> ./xulrunner
[21:43] <giulia27> KM, I should do it in the opt then ?
[21:43] <alexxxxa> Is it anyway possible to install mousetrap on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:43] <ui> mesoderm: I do not know whether there exists such a program, but it's unlikely you'll habve a single language pack - typically you have instead a file between language A and language B
[21:43] <ui> specific for a couple of languages
[21:43] <ui> yup, giulia, cd /opt/xulrunner+
[21:44] <ui> without the plus (it's a typo -.-'')
[21:44] <mesoderm> ui -- OK. Thank you ... I'll keep looking around.
[21:44] <giulia27> ui, even in opt, it does not work
[21:44] <giulia27> it gets me the same error message
[21:44] <KM0201> alexxxxa: mousetrap?
[21:45] <vicesquad> u there L3top?
[21:45] <giulia27> http://pastebin.com/aaLujvsF for ui
[21:45] <ui> run /opt/xulrunner/xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip
[21:46] <alexxxxa> KM0201: Mousetrap is the app that enables user to control mouse using webcamera
[21:46] <giulia27> ui, how do I run it ?
[21:46] <KM0201> ah ok
[21:46] <ui> type on the terminal '/opt/xulrunner/xulrunner --install-app chatzilla-0.9.88-xr.zip' then press 'Enter'
[21:47] <giulia27> no message
[21:47] <ui> good
[21:47] <ui> now run 'locate chatzilla'
[21:47] <giulia27> but /usr/lib/chatzilla still "no such file or directory"
[21:48] <KM0201> giulia27: why don't you just install chatzilla from the repositories>
[21:48] <giulia27> KM, and how do I do it ? Can it work as a standalone ?
[21:49] <giulia27> http://pastebin.com/CW4XvgZJ pastebin for the locate chatzilla in the terminal ui
[21:49] <KM0201> gi, what do you mean operate as a standalone?
[21:50] <avis> Athanasius, is Pantera and has killed Jonathan Joe.  he gets the death penalty.  he also gets a gag order and internet taken away his fibonacci is 3190726387261386492318726491273821692384797
[21:50] <alexxxxa> Anybody knows if there's some substitution for mousetrap?
[21:50] <KM0201> !info chatzilla
[21:50] <vicesquad> hello, can anyone help me with an acer laptop display issue in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:50] <KM0201> hmm
[21:50] <ui> shouldn't be like that :/
[21:50] <L3top> yes vicesquad. You need to please actually type, in a terminal: echo "$DISPLAY"
[21:51] <giulia27> KM, that you don't need to go to Frefox in order to use Chatzilla
[21:51] <ui> KM0201: she's trying to install chatzilla from http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/
[21:51] <vicesquad> ok
[21:52] <ShawarmaJunkie> I just installed Monitorix.  Can anyone help me figure out why Iḿ getting a cannot connect to localhost message in Firefox?
[21:52] <vicesquad> I GOT :0
[21:52] <vicesquad> sorry
[21:52] <ShawarmaJunkie> Problem loading page
[21:53] <ghostconn> is there a way to add a .gif as a background image? im running ubuntu 12.04
[21:53] <ghostconn> please help
[21:53] <vicesquad> L3top: i got :0
[21:54] <L3top> one moment vicesquad
[21:54] <L3top> in the meantime vicesquad please give me the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[21:55] <vicesquad> L3top: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 09)
[21:56] <expoernie> ul universe was already enabled.  ANYone, how do I install xchat2 from terminal please?
[21:56] <L3top> hmm... I would not expect that to be a problem vicesquad. I am away for a moment checking something
[21:56] <deper29> expoernie: sudo apt-get install xchat
[21:57] <expoernie> ok thanks deper29 - I did xchat2 (duh) -- I prefer not to get xchat-gnome
[21:58] <ui> It seems that the zip file does not contain the xulrunner binary
[21:58] <L3top> vicesquad: please  give me the output of: xrandr            in a pastebin
[21:58] <vicesquad> L3top: when i restart  the machine, i see the laptop screen flash
[21:59] <vicesquad> L3top: what is pastebin, sorry for being such a noob
[21:59] <L3top> !pastebin | vicesquad don't apologize for not knowing things. Now you do :)
[22:01] <giulia27> so still no idea for my Chatzilla stuff
[22:01] <giulia27> maybe a good night of sleep will help
[22:01] <giulia27> good night
[22:01] <vicesquad> L3top: done
[22:01] <L3top> I need the url vicesquad
[22:02] <ui> Asking into irc://irc.mozilla.org/chatzilla maybe they can help
[22:02] <vicesquad> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080393/
[22:02] <L3top> vicesquad: xrandr --output LVDS1
[22:03] <vicesquad> L3top: nothing
[22:04] <hanscom> Can you help me with something
[22:04] <hanscom> I need someone to help me test out some video desktop recording scripts using FFMPEG ?
[22:04] <L3top> vicesquad: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf         does that tell you it does not exist?
[22:05] <hanscom> Does anyone here have FFMPEG install on their Ubuntu Linux system ?
[22:05] <vicesquad> L3top: right, does not exist
[22:06] <L3top> !ot | Quantum_Ion this isn't the place to troll for guinea pigs... but I am curious to see what you are doing in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:08] <ghostconn> is there a way to use a .gif for a background image?
[22:10] <L3top> vicesquad: I am a bit confused by your situation. It SHOULD be giving output.
[22:11] <vicesquad> L3top: i think it is, a blank or black screen, wuld a new install from cd or usb work?
[22:11] <L3top> vicesquad: aha
[22:12] <L3top> vicesquad: I bet your lcd lamp is not firing... there is a fix for that... a grub parameter... like... noacpi or something... gimme a minute to check
[22:12] <vicesquad> it's a dual bot, so windows works fine, save that when windows starts it starts on monitor then switches to laptop
[22:12] <alexxxxa> How big difference is there between Unity and Gnome? Does it affect apps that are written specifically for one of them?
[22:12] <vicesquad> L3top: thanks
[22:13] <Griffrez> I want to go to /root, but the explorer tells me I don't have permission for so... how can I fix this?
[22:13] <jordan__> I'm having trouble getting my linksys wireless internet adapter to work properly. It's getting detected, and connecting to my router, but it's going very slow. Is there some kind of driver I need to get to make it work right?
[22:15] <dubac0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080408/ as you can see i have a large cpu issue with ubuntu one any chance you can help me?
[22:15] <bazhang> dubac0, asked in #ubuntuone yet?
[22:16] <dubac0> asked in #ubuntu-one yes
[22:16] <alexxxxa> I know my question is kind of nooby, but I would be really greatfull to have my question answered (and forum staff also, since I won't open a new thread there if I get answer to my question)
[22:16] <jordan__> Will I get a better wireless connection with an external adapter using NDISWrapper?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> alexxxxa  unity is gnome3 with eye candy
[22:16] <alexxxxa> And my question is: How big difference is there between Unity and Gnome? Does it affect apps that are written specifically for one of them?
[22:16] <bazhang> alexxxxa, unity and gnome-shell are shells for gnome3
[22:17] <tripelb> I'm helping a guy with a unity interface ACK! (I dont know it.) How can I get to gnome? Will I have to close all the programs open in the GUI? Will I need to reboot the computer? Thanks.
[22:17] <alexxxxa> I'm using 12.04 ubuntu and can't get mousetrap to work. Since the package name is gnome-mousetrap, I thought it has something to do with my unity
[22:18] <dubac0> !ubuntubot
[22:18] <bazhang> !notunity | tripelb
[22:18] <dubac0> !ubotu
[22:18] <bazhang> dubac0, /msg ubottu
[22:19] <L3top> vicesquad: can you tell me if this does anything: sudo setpci -s 00:02 F4.B=0
[22:19] <tripelb> <- blank mind. what's the simple text program in ubuntu (the mind goes.. textedit/notepad/wordpad - sorry for dumbness
[22:19] <luzil> hi, just set up 12.04, while installing jedit editor in software center I saw download size is 40 Mb compared to 4 Mb .deb file on the home page, same with many other programs, why are they so large on ubuntu? Even when i install jedit fresh on windows its never 40 Mb
[22:19] <bazhang> tripelb, gedit
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  leafpad
[22:20] <jh3> if i ran `sudo shutdown now` remotely, how would i "start" my box up again?
[22:20] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, you maybe thinking of xubuntu or lubuntu
[22:20] <vicesquad> L3top
[22:20] <L3top> jh3: you wouldn't. you should run sudo reboot
[22:20] <vicesquad> L3top:fixed
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> bazhang  wasnt aware, i use it in plain ubuntu
[22:20] <vicesquad> L3top: sweet
[22:21] <jh3> L3top: yes, i know that now.
[22:21] <L3top> vicesquad: well for now... I do not believe it will be after reboot. Try and see while I try and figure out how to do this the right way.
[22:21] <L3top> vicesquad: but at least we know it is the backlight
[22:21] <vicesquad> L3top: how do I make it permanent and will it affect presenation modes?
[22:21] <jh3> L3top: but i'm guessing i need to be physically in front of the machine to bring it back up
[22:21] <vicesquad> L3top: np
[22:23] <LINUX111111> i am having problem in internet connectivity
[22:23] <vicesquad> L3top: are you saying I should reboot?
[22:23] <LINUX111111> i am using ubuntu 12.04..i can ping by ip address i cant ping from site name
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> LINUX111111  dns issue
[22:24] <LINUX111111> my internet connected but it resolve only ip ..not domain name
[22:24] <LINUX111111> yah i know..so how to solve it?
[22:24] <L3top> vicesquad: yes please. I expect we will need to do that again once you get back... and dump it into a script somewhere. Please tell me where it dies after post.
[22:24] <LINUX111111> what is solution for that?
[22:24] <L3top> !patience | LINUX111111
[22:25] <LINUX111111> i can ping google.com by thire ip address but i can not ping google.com by thire domain name
[22:26] <degobrah> hey guys, I've been googling this and can't find any good answers, I want to use ufw to deny port 22 on ipv6 but not on ipv4
[22:26] <vicesquad> L3top: ok? all I plan to do is restart, do i need to run a command or make some notes on the restart?
[22:26] <degobrah> how can I do that?
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> LINUX111111  yes, you just said so -- what's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[22:26] <LINUX111111> my internet is connected and it can resolve connection by ip address..can not resolve by domain name..i guess it dns issue
[22:26] <LINUX111111> wait
[22:26] <L3top> now you want us to wait. ME ME ME !!! ANSWER NOW... oh... ok wait a minute...
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> L3top  i've had girlfriends, i'm used to worse
[22:27] <sunz> skype incoming call window is rendered off the screen! how to get it back on screen?
[22:28] <L3top> lol... I was under the impression resolv.conf was depreciated and was trying to look up the "new" way... but he just kept blasting text so I stopped.
[22:28] <maurilio> hello guys!
[22:29] <L3top> vicesquad: yeah... just reboot and come back. We can run the command again to get laptop backlight up... and I can definitely provide you a hack... but I am looking to see a "proper" way to do it
[22:29] <L3top> vicesquad: do try and make a note of when it dies.
[22:29] <L3top> Hello
[22:30] <maurilio> Any one from Brazil?
[22:30] <L3top> !br | maurilio
[22:31] <maurilio> tnks
[22:33] <LINUX11111> i ma back
[22:33] <LINUX11111> here is my resolv.conf
[22:33] <LINUX11111> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080424/
[22:33] <LINUX11111> i can ping ip address but can not hostname
[22:34] <bazhang> !enter | LINUX11111
[22:34] <LINUX11111> ok boss..
[22:34] <vicesquad> L3top: shutdown was normal, restarted, after the selection of ubuntu at dual boot menu, when blank, flickered right before the login screen, flickered once again and it is still off, about to paste command
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> LINUX11111  try changing the nameserver to your router's local ip address -- 192.168.1.1 or so
[22:35] <LINUX11111> i am using usb data card
[22:35] <LINUX11111> i dont have router monkey dust
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> yeah yeah
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> LINUX11111  i'm not familiar with that kind of card
[22:36] <LINUX11111> isp give dns name
[22:36] <LINUX11111> no router no local ip
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> anyone have a broken screen kindle?   i need the motherboard/internals to swap into my kindle keyboard (wifi+3g).  the screen works (though its frozen).  if i can obtain the internals from another person i can do the swap myself.
[22:36] <LINUX11111> any solution?
[22:37] <L3top> arooni-mobile: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[22:38] <Diazo> Quick question is the 'fdisk' command a low-level format tool?
[22:38] <arooni-mobile> i do plug my kindle into my ubuntu laptop ;p
[22:38] <samster34> well, that didn't work. after installing, I can't boot the installation at all, muhc less install the video drivers :/
[22:39] <L3top> I plug my ubuntu laptop into a power adapter, but I would not expect ubuntu support to  tell me how to rewire my circuit breaker arooni-mobile.
[22:39] <Linuxuser_> hey guys I just download ndiswrapper and installed my windows driver and it says the hardware is present but when i try to use firefox it won't work
[22:39] <Quantum_Ion> L3top: What kind of laptop ?
[22:39] <samster34> evertime I boot, no matter the options, I get a screen that says "running in low graphics mode", and whatever option I choose there it gets stuck and nothing happens
[22:39] <Linuxuser_> could any help please?
[22:39] <Linuxuser_> anyone*
[22:40] <Quantum_Ion> samster34: What kind of laptop do you have ?
[22:40] <L3top> samster34: this is with the 302 nvidia driver installed?
[22:40] <Linuxuser_> no one?
[22:40] <L3top> !patience | Linuxuser_
[22:41] <samster34> L3top: I don't get to install anything
[22:41] <samster34> Quantum_Ion: not a laptop
[22:41] <samster34> L3top: right after installing ubuntu, I can't boot the installation one way or another
[22:41] <ncp> quick question, best/preferred torrent client? transmission and me are bad friends :)
[22:41] <jordan__> I'm missing the option to enable wireless. My wireless adapter stopped being detected. What can I do?
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> ncp  wrong channel
[22:42] <L3top> !poll | ncp
[22:42] <L3top> jordan__: stopped being detected by lspci?
[22:43] <L3top> samster34: You are the one with the two nvidia cards yes? from earlier?
[22:43] <jordan__> L3top, Idk what that is? It was working, just very slow, then I installed ndiswrapper and the driver and it wouldn't work so I uninstalled ndiswrapper and now I can't enable it the original way.
[22:43] <samster34> L3top: yes, although I removed the second card just to avoid any unecessary complications for now
[22:44] <L3top> jordan__: lspci | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless)'
[22:44] <L3top> samster34: so you have the 5xx in there now?
[22:44] <jordan__> L3top, didn't do anything
[22:44] <jthan> L3top: It's all good. No hard feelings. We're all here with a common goal. (in reference to last night) And, of course, the common goal is to help others.
[22:44] <samster34> L3top: no, the 670
[22:45] <Linuxuser_> so does anyone know why my wireless adapter isn't working on ubuntu?
[22:45] <L3top> samster34: try creating an xorg.conf... nvidia-xconfigure   if memory serves
[22:45] <jordan__> Linuxuser_,  I'm trying to figure the same thing out.
[22:45] <samster34> L3top: where, how, what?
[22:45] <Linuxuser_> really
[22:45] <Linuxuser_> i used ndiswrapper and it says it's working
[22:46] <vicesquad> L3top: have to run, can I log on later and get a response? till then I will run the command
[22:46] <Linuxuser_> it says the hardware is present
[22:46] <jordan__> Mine did too. I uninstalled ndiswrapper cause I still couldn't connect with it.
[22:46] <L3top> jordan__: can I see a pastebin of lspci -vv
[22:46] <samster34> L3top: I'm on the live system from the flash disk again, how do I get stuff on the HDD partition?
[22:46] <L3top> vicesquad: yes...
[22:46] <jordan__> L3top, of course. 1 sec.
[22:47] <Linuxuser_> hey l3top do you think you could help jordan__ and i
[22:47] <Ariii> Hi!
[22:47] <Ariii> How should Ubuntu run on a 1 GHz PowerBook G4 with 512 MB RAM?
[22:47] <jordan__> L3top, http://pastebin.com/a4JZERRZ
[22:48] <Ariii> By the way, it
[22:48] <Ariii> 's running fine on Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.
[22:48] <jordan__> L3top, it's a linksys wusb54g if that matters
[22:48] <L3top> samster34: Well... you will want to mount the drive, then chroot into it after binding dev.
[22:48] <L3top> looking jordan__.
[22:49] <samster34> L3top: 1) I don't know how to do that. it seems to be mounted from what disk utility says, but I cant explore it
[22:50] <samster34> L3top: I do not have permission to view the contents of the partition
[22:50] <L3top> samster34: it is involved. Give me a minute.
[22:51] <Linuxuser_> hey you find anything out yet jordan__
[22:51] <L3top> jordan__: yeah... your system does not see that card at ALL
[22:51] <Ariii> Also, should I use 12.04 or an older version for my PowerBook?
[22:51] <samster34> L3top: ok, thanks.
[22:51] <jordan__> L3top, strange right? it was until i used ndiswrapper.
[22:51] <L3top> oh... duh jordan__... sorry... lsusb
[22:51] <iharp> How can I find out if 12.04 supports an ATI radeon 9200 SE without running a live cd or installing it to my hard drive?
[22:51] <Linuxuser_> hey L3top it says it see's my card but the internet still won't work
[22:51] <jordan__> L3top, lol ok
[22:52] <DestinyCyrus> hey people :-)
[22:52] <L3top> iharp: I need to see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:52] <L3top> iharp: and I can tell you.
[22:52] <Ariii> DestinyCyrus: Hi!
[22:52] <jordan__> L3top, finds it "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 13b1:000d Linksys WUSB54G v4 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT2500USB]"
[22:52] <DestinyCyrus> how are you ariii?
[22:52] <Linuxuser_> l3top?
[22:52] <iharp> L3top: It's a different computer. ill need to get it up and running before I can post.
[22:53] <Ariii> DestinyCyrus: Pretty good :).
[22:53] <samster34> L3top: ok, I managed to mount the partition
[22:53] <jordan__> Linuxuser_, give him time. He's helping a lot of people right now.
[22:53] <L3top> Linuxuser_: I can only help 5 people at a time... lol. I will do my best if you have patience.
[22:53] <iharp> L3top: I know that 11.04 supports it. I just didn't know if 12.04 would
[22:53] <DestinyCyrus> xxx
[22:54] <DestinyCyrus> (R)
[22:54] <Linuxuser_> ohh sorry!! haha kk
[22:54] <L3top> samster34: you will need to bind dev.
[22:54] <DestinyCyrus> (r)
[22:54] <DestinyCyrus> :-)
[22:54] <samster34> L3top: I don't know what that means. lol. I can view all the folder son the partition, including dev...?
[22:55] <m0ss> whats the new linux kernel written in
[22:55] <m0ss> C11 or C99
[22:55] <L3top> jordan__: Can you please paste the output of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   that goes for you too Linuxuser_
[22:55] <L3top> by paste I mean pastebin jordan__ and Linuxuser_
[22:56] <Linuxuser_> yeah
[22:56] <jordan__> L3top, i know :P
[22:56] <Linuxuser_> we'll im on my mac so i'm gonnna have to type it out
[22:56] <Linuxuser_> ya i know too...
[22:56] <samster34> macs can't copy&paste? :S
[22:56] <L3top> !pastebinit | Linuxuser_
[22:57] <jordan__> L3top, http://pastebin.com/1QPV993D
[22:57] <L3top> samster34: mount -o bind /dev /path/to/mount/dev
[22:57] <Linuxuser_> oh ok
[22:57] <Linuxuser_> l3top couldn't find package pastebinit
[22:57] <samster34> L3top: should I have the volume mounted when I do that or not?
[22:58] <L3top> !info pastebinit
[22:58] <L3top> samster34: yes.
[22:59] <cody__> hi everyone i installed a program with the name of logmein-hamachi-2.1.0.68-x64.tgz what is the command to install it in terminal
[22:59] <deper29> cody__: that is a tgz file. Did you download a tgz, or did you install it?
[22:59] <Linuxuser_> we'll it won't install. anyway i think i can type this out pretty quick l3top
[22:59] <cody__> i downloaded it
[22:59] <shuff> Hi, I've been trying to get an ubuntu server configured on a legacy server I had sitting in a corner (Dell PowerEdge 1750) ... for some reason I can't get my command line to show up after install ... I just get "video mode not supported". I have tried setting the "nomodeset" option to my grub file, but that didn't resolve anything. Somebody who could help me out?
[22:59] <L3top> samster34: for good measure you could mount none -t proc /path/to/proc; mount none -t devpts /path/to/dev/pts; mount none -t sysfs /path/to/sys                where /path/to is your path to the mount
[22:59] <shuff> Using 12.04 LTS server btw
[23:00] <jordan__> L3top, did you see my pastebin link?
[23:00] <L3top> samster34: this presumes you are root (sudo -s or place sudo in front of each command). Then chroot /path/to/mount/
[23:01] <deper29> cody__: so tar zxf path_to_file.tgz
[23:01] <deper29> cody__: ignore the 'so'
[23:01] <cody__> oka ty
[23:01] <L3top> yes jordan__. The system sees it and it is assigned as eth1. I assume the network manager is running?
[23:01] <samster34> L3top: should it look like this? there's so many /dev/s in that line :P sudo mount -o bind /dev /dev/sda3/dev/   ??? that seems...weird
[23:01] <L3top> jordan__: s/eth1/wlan0/
[23:02] <deper29> cody__: that will decompress the file. you should be able to find an installer or a README file in there
[23:02] <L3top> no samster34. You said it is mounted. Where is that mount point?
[23:02] <Dayofswords> deper29: tar -zxf path_to_file.tgz              you need that dash
[23:02] <samster34> L3top: /media/New Volume
[23:02] <samster34> urgh, the path has a whitespace
[23:03] <Linuxuser_> l3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080442/
[23:03] <deper29> cody__: do waht Dayofswords said :P
[23:03] <jordan__> L3top, at the moment i'm connected wired but like this the rest of my family won't get internet. only 1 ethernet cable. so I need to get my wireless working right o.O
[23:03] <L3top> samster34: sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/New\ Volume/dev
[23:03] <deper29> Dayofswords: thanks, forgot :P
[23:03] <cody__> i have the file in the downloads folder so what would the path be
[23:04] <samster34> L3top: ok
[23:04] <deper29> cody__: most likely ~/Downloads/filename.tgz
[23:04] <L3top> Linuxuser_: YOURS however is nowhere to be seen. I need a lot more data, and you dont want to type it. Make sure universe repo is avail and install pastebinit.
[23:05] <deper29> cody__: ~ is the same as /home/username
[23:05] <Linuxuser_> how do i make sure universe rep os avail
[23:05] <Linuxuser_> repo*
[23:05] <Linuxuser_> is*
[23:05] <jordan__> Linuxuser_, congrats on your first pastebin :P
[23:05] <Linuxuser_> no i've done pastebin 1000 times...
[23:05] <jordan__> lol
[23:05] <jordan__> it was a joke
[23:05] <Linuxuser_> i go on other irc sites too that are associated with a website..
[23:06] <Linuxuser_> oh ok
[23:06] <masteranus> (:
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> Linuxuser_  one way is in synaptic settings
[23:06] <samster34> L3top: now chroot to where? /dev ?
[23:06] <L3top> samster34: mount none -t proc /media/New\ Volume/proc; mount none -t devpts /media/New\ Volume/dev/pts; mount none -t sysfs /media/New\ Volume/sys
[23:06] <Linuxuser_> where's taht
[23:06] <L3top> samster34: sudo -s         first
[23:06] <jordan__> L3top, you know how normally when you click up on the top bar and see all the networking options? under Enable Networking I should have an option for Enable Wireless but I don't.
[23:06] <Linuxuser_> synaptic package manager?? MonkeyDust
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> Linuxuser_  yes
[23:07] <samster34> L3top: and then chroot where? /dev gives me an eeor
[23:07] <L3top> jordan__: is there a physical switch or fn toggle for this?
[23:07] <Linuxuser_> pastebinit isn't there!
[23:07] <Linuxuser_> i am on version 8.04 of ubuntu :)
[23:07] <jordan__> L3top, nope :/
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Linuxuser_  8.04 is EOL, no longer valid or supported
[23:08] <L3top> samster34: chroot /media/New\ Volume/
[23:08] <Linuxuser_> ohhh hm so how do i update without deleting everything?
[23:08] <dax> !eolupgrade
[23:08] <dax> heh, i could have sworn we had that
[23:08] <samster34> L3top: ok
[23:08] <dax> !eolupgrades
[23:08] <Linuxuser_> event not found
[23:08] <Linuxuser_> oh
[23:08] <Linuxuser_> oops
[23:08] <L3top> nice save dax
[23:09] <jordan__> L3top, what is the command to disable and enable the wlan interface?
[23:09] <L3top> samster34: Now you are root, on the root of the HD and can run commands. Be cautious as you ARE root.
[23:09] <Linuxuser_> so how do i upgrade to 12.04 without deleting my stuff??
[23:09] <L3top> iwconfig something jordan__... I will have to look it up
[23:09] <Linuxuser_> dax or l3top
[23:09] <samster34> L3top: ok, now that we are here...what do we want to do
[23:09] <L3top> nvidia-xconfig     or nvidia-xconfigure     I cannot remember which.
[23:10] <davv3_> is it possible to have it so that windows resize happens with modkey and rightclick?
[23:10] <davv3_> aching to xmonad.
[23:10] <samster34> L3top: I don't have an nvidia driver yet though, is that alright?
[23:10] <davv3_> unityrelated question obviously
[23:10] <dax> Linuxuser_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades , as the bot said. It's rather obnoxiously complicated, though, since you'll have to upgrade to 10.04 first
[23:10] <L3top> then I would like to see the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf samster34
[23:10] <L3top> samster34: no...
[23:10] <jordan__> L3top, "wlan0     No such device"
[23:10] <samster34> L3top: so can I install the driver now? being root, and stuff?
[23:11] <L3top> samster34: lol ok well ... you will need to installa the ppa... and then update... and then the driver yes...
[23:11] <jordan__> samster34, having the nvidia driver and not having it isn't much of a difference. i still got major video lag.
[23:11] <L3top> jordan__: give me a moment.
[23:11] <dax> Linuxuser_: oh, they stopped maintaining that page after Jaunty. Never mind then >.>
[23:11] <jordan__> L3top, no probs
[23:11] <samster34> L3top: ok, got that part, see you in a couple minutes
[23:11] <L3top> jordan__: his is a diffferent animal.
[23:11] <Linuxuser_> yeah
[23:12] <Linuxuser_> so then what
[23:12] <mimikuri> dondori puto kukuruzo
[23:12] <samster34> jordan__: I just want to be able to boot the goddamn OS ;_;
[23:12] <myersg> how would I install this? https://github.com/KHresearch/subsonic
[23:12] <jordan__> samster34, haha oh it's like that :P i at least boot. i'm just getting a lot of video lag in a virtual machine even with the driver ha
[23:12] <Linuxuser_> should i just reinstall.
[23:12] <Linuxuser_> how would i?
[23:12] <Linuxuser_> without deleting my partition
[23:13] <L3top> Sorry... family stuff... be back in 10 min.
[23:13] <jordan__> L3top, kk
[23:13] <myersg> I need help installing this: how woul
[23:13] <myersg> https://github.com/KHresearch/subsonic
[23:13] <samster34> L3top: say, is there anyway I can make the upgrade not download a lot of crap like libreoffice? I really don't need that upgraded and my wireless connection is being slow as hell :/
[23:14] <jordan__> L3top, the wireless being slow is my problem, or should i say was. now it doesn't work at all o.O
[23:14] <Linuxuser_> hey l3top how would i reinstall to get 12.04 without deleting my partition?
[23:15] <myersg> Can someone please help me install this??? https://github.com/KHresearch/subsonic
[23:15] <jordan__> Linuxuser_, he left. said family stuff. he'll be back in 10 min
[23:15] <samster34> jordan__: my reception is really crappy, but on windows I've never had trouble getting at least the 3MB/s internet bandwidth through...on ubuntu, my downloads slow to a crawl :/
[23:15] <Linuxuser_> oh well do you think you would know jordan__?
[23:16] <jordan__> samster34, i'm lucky if i get to 2 websites before it stops working, and my wireless adapter is sitting right next to my router lol
[23:16] <samster34> jordan__ ouch
[23:16] <jordan__> ubuntu has always had problems with wireless though
[23:16] <jagginess> Linux, there should be an option either to format it or not..
[23:16] <ki4ro> myersg: I've been to the website and don't have an answer...please be patient with us...you've asked your question 2 or 3 times in 2 minutes
[23:17] <Linuxuser_> yup and drivers
[23:17] <Linuxuser_> the improved a little though
[23:17] <myersg> ok..sorry
[23:18] <samster34> the silly thing is, if I share the internet connection from my win7 pc (which it gets over wireless) to my other pc with ubuntu on it, it gets the full 3MB/s downstream. but if I give it the wireless connection directly....
[23:19] <ki4ro> myersg: I went back and clicked on downloads on the right which gives a tar.gz file as an option which I've used in the past but not very comfortable for me
[23:19] <cody__> okay im trying to install hamachi, i downloaded the file from their website and got a file named logmein-hamachi-2.1.0.68-x64.tgz
[23:19] <cody__> i need help installing it
[23:19] <myersg> Yes I did that but I don't know what to do from there...
[23:19] <ki4ro> myersg: If you are a tar.gz person or can find one you'll be in business
[23:20] <jordan__> samster34, there's some weird stuff that happens on ubuntu hah
[23:20] <ki4ro> Anyone help myersg with using a tar.gz file?
[23:20] <samster34> jordan__, yup. in my VM on my windows host, the launcher thing turned purple, and stayed that way.
[23:21] <samster34> no matter what I change the wallpaper to ;)
[23:21] <L3top> Ok... samster34 you do not have to upgrade at all... you can just apt-get install.
[23:22] <cody__> im trying to download hamachi does anyone know how?
[23:22] <samster34> L3top haha now you tell me :) so can I cancel the upgrade?
[23:22] <samster34> I really don't need office and thunderbird and whatnot upgraded..
[23:22] <L3top> jordan__: I need a minute to look up iwconfig stuff. I never deal with it so it isn't at all native to me.
[23:22] <L3top> samster34: yes
[23:22] <samster34> good. thanks
[23:23] <samster34> so, do I do the apt-get install in the chroot shell? I assume so
[23:23] <ki4ro> myersg: Try here:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/
[23:23] <jagginess> myersg, http://www.subsonic.org/pages/download.jsp
[23:23] <jordan__> L3top, ok thats fine. i'm in no hurry.
[23:23] <L3top> Linuxuser_: well... what I would do if I were you is copy off your /home directory, do a fresh install and move it back. Or if you had enough space, you could do a "side by side" install and handle it that way.
[23:23] <myersg> The one Im trying to install is a fork
[23:24] <jagginess> myersg, i got that link from https://github.com/KHresearch/subsonic/tree/release/subsonic-main
[23:24] <L3top> that is unsupported here myersg. If someone chooses to try to help that is one thing... but... it is not supported.
[23:24] <myersg> what? didn't undersand the last comment
[23:25] <ki4ro> L3top: Me either...what's not supported?...how to use tar.gz?
[23:25] <ki4ro> L3top: His question is how to use tar.gz nothing else.
[23:26] <Linuxuser_> ya im trying to delete the partition and restart all over l3to
[23:26] <Linuxuser_> l3top
[23:26] <studio> i have a problem my laptop suspends when the lid closes and i changed it from power settings.laptop is connected to an external monitor
[23:26] <L3top> How to install things from source is not supported afaik... Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
[23:27] <jagginess> Linuxuser_, why would you want to do that/
[23:27] <L3top> because he is on 804 jagginess
[23:27] <Linuxuser_> cause 8.04 is too old
[23:27] <Linuxuser_> i need 12.04
[23:28] <Linuxuser_> you get me jagginess?
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> Linuxuser_  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[23:29] <Linuxuser_> yes.. i know that MonkeyDust..
[23:29] <L3top> Linuxuser_: again... i would copy /home to someplace else... then do a fresh install, and copy it back... and work from there.
[23:30] <samster34> pfff...is there any way to stop ubuntu from throttling the wireless bandwidth because of bad reception so much?
[23:31] <studio>  i have a problem my laptop suspends when the lid closes and i changed it from power settings.laptop is connected to an external monitor
[23:31] <samster34> L3top, ok, 302.something is installed
[23:32] <L3top> reboot and see if it comes alive.
[23:32] <samster34> yay :/
[23:32] <samster34> wish me luck, for I won't have to bother you again if it works :D
[23:33] <Guest67311> clear
[23:33] <Guest67311> clear
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest67311  with /
[23:33] <L3top> Ok jordan__ please pastebin the output of: iwconfig
[23:33] <Guest67311> thank
[23:35] <t_acko> how is it I can edit my /etc/ssh/sshd_config to change the port to 2222, do /etc/init.d/ssh reload and the port hasn't changed from 22?
[23:35] <jordan__> L3top, http://pastebin.com/WzfMqkAt
[23:35] <drPoo> I started uninstalling a program while it was still working now my apt-get does not work. I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080479/
[23:35] <drPoo> any ideas?
[23:36] <L3top> jordan__: That is highly confusing to me.
[23:38] <myersg> I emaled the guy..
[23:39] <samster34> L3top, bad news
[23:39] <myersg> this is what he sent back..I don't understand
[23:39] <myersg> http://pastebin.com/KfLkF99S
[23:39] <jordan__> L3top, me too lol
[23:40] <myersg> can someone help understand what he is saying?
[23:40] <samster34> L3top, things were looking good, got the fancy looking boot progress screen, then both screens flashed, and I ended up on a screen saying "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility [OK], starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]"
[23:41] <samster34> with a flashing cursor, and that was it.
[23:41] <Grivvel> Hello! I just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and I'm having an issue with my music player. I'm using cmus and the built-in sound controls aren't working. It always stays at the same volume regardless of what shows in the application. Does anyone have any ideas what would cause this or how to fix it?
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> Grivvel  in a terminal, type alsamixer, use arrows to navigate, MM means mute
[23:42] <OerHeks> jordan, disabling IPv6 decreased boottime for me, and made browsing faster. else i can think of is energy-saving issues with your wireless card.
[23:43] <myersg> ki4ro : can you help me?
[23:43] <L3top> samster34: try and ctrl alt f2, login and: sudo nvidia-xconfigure   then reboot (nvidia-xconfig if that isnt right).
[23:43] <Ariii> How much should burning the Ubuntu install onto a flash drive take? It's gone 30 minutes for me on Mac OS X.
[23:43] <samster34> L3top, alright, trying again
[23:43] <jordan__> OerHeks, my usb detects the wireless adapter but i can't even connect with it.
[23:43] <L3top> jordan__:  samster34 Linuxuser_  I have to go now. Wife is giving eye daggers. We are supposed to be watching a movie.
[23:44] <L3top> night.
[23:44] <drPoo> myersg, i saw your pastebin, but what is the problem???
[23:44] <jordan__> L3top,  alright. thanks for trying!
[23:44] <samster34> L3top, haha, ok. thanks for all the help
[23:44] <myersg> I don't understand what he is saying to do?
[23:44] <Grivvel> MonkeyDust: Sorry, I think I was unclear. I can still change the volume of the system as a whole with no issues (either via alsamixer or the GUI). It's only changing the cmus-specific sound level that is causing me issues.
[23:44] <drPoo> myserg, are you having difficulties deploying a WAR?
[23:44] <OerHeks> Jordan_, oh, i read "i'm lucky if i get to 2 websites before it stops workin" ...
[23:45] <OerHeks> Jordan_, what adapter is it?
[23:45] <jordan__> OerHeks, that was the initial problem, then i decided to try ndiswrapper and it broke it now lol
[23:45] <jordan__> OerHeks, linksys wusb54g v4
[23:46] <OerHeks> oke, turn back and see if powermanagment can help, see http://uselessuseofcat.com/?p=67
[23:46] <OerHeks> and disable IPv6 >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Disabling_IPv6
[23:47] <jordan__> OerHeks, "SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device."
[23:48] <jordan__> OerHeks, thats my problem. it detects it, but not as a wlan device
[23:50] <ionwind> did any one know how to connect samsung galaxy tab p7500 to a pc with ubuntu? at the moment i can see the massive disk but when i try to copy some thing inside it give me error
[23:52] <myersg> drPoo : so what is he saying? do I need to capile somthing?
[23:52] <Ariii> ionwind: Sorry I don't have much help on this, but as a last-resort thing you could try ReactOS to use Windows drivers if whatever you do doesn't work, if you haven't heard of it already/
[23:52] <Grivvel> MonkeyDust: Looks like I found a work-around. Switching cmus from using alsa to using pulse seemed to solve the issue. No idea, but don't seem to be any drawbacks
[23:53] <Grivvel> (yet)
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> Grivvel  if it works, it works
 from what I see written here http://pastebin.com/KfLkF99S I do not have enough context to answer the question. However, it is clear that this a question to be posted in another channel given that it is off topic. See #java
[23:54] <ionwind> ariii how i do that??
[23:55] <myersg> I can't get go to that channel..Invite only
[23:55] <ionwind> i soo the web page from samsung and they dont have anything for ubuntu just for windows or mac
[23:55] <MonkeyDust> myersg  you have to register your nickname, type !register to find out how
[23:56] <myersg> how do I login with a nicname?
[23:56] <myersg> I already have one registerd
[23:59] <jagginess> myersg, ask #freenode about registration
[23:59] <Dr_willis> !register > myersg
[23:59] <flan_suse> What is the default cipher (for encryption) on the 12.04 alternate installer CD? aes-xts? aes-cbc?