[00:42] <ailo> The blue thing is a video driver error
[00:42] <ailo> Should dissapear after updating graphic drivers
[00:43] <ailo> I had the same problem with the origingal nvidia dribers
[00:43] <ailo> drivers*
[02:01] <tyche_> ailo: The only problem is that I have the latest that Ubuntu puts out (295.49)  The latest is supposedly 295.59, and it hasn't hit the Ubuntu repositories, yet.
[02:02] <ailo> tyche_: I had the same problem for a while
[02:02] <ailo> I would need to double check with Ubuntu. I'm on Debian now, but more recent drivers did make the bug go away
[02:03] <tyche_> And the last time I tried installing an NVidia driver from their site, it took me two weeks to straighten out my display.  It didn't recognize my Samsung monitor.
[02:03] <ailo> No reason to do that
[02:03] <ailo> Let's see what I have
[02:03] <ailo> 295.59
[02:04] <tyche_> You got it from Debian?
[02:04] <ailo> I'm on Debian, so that's what I have
[02:04] <ailo> Wheexy
[02:04] <ailo> Wheezy*
[02:04] <ailo> That's what made the blue screen go away
[02:04] <ailo> Let me see about Ubuntu..
[02:05] <tyche_> Yea, I moved over  from that when I discovered that PulseAudio actually CAN find my Bose Companion 5 speakers.
[02:05] <tyche_> It's NICE to watch movies with surround sound (5.1)
[02:06] <ailo> tyche_: Try installing nvidia-current-updates
[02:06] <ailo> Sorry
[02:06] <tyche_> They're in.  And they're listed in Synaptic as 295.49
[02:06] <ailo> That's what you have, I think
[02:07] <ailo> I guess they are a bit slow, if they are planning to update to latest :(
[02:07] <ailo> Anyway, the newer driver will solve it
[02:09] <tyche_> I think they may be in a ppa.  I found a site that lists the apt-add and apt-geet commands to get them.
[02:10] <ailo> tyche_: Should be no problem. Also, whenever they update nvidia in Ubuntu, you can always remove that PPA later
[02:10] <tyche_> Yep.
[02:15] <tyche_> I'll be back.
[02:55] <tyche> ailo: No go on the NVidia driver.  It upgraded, but doesn't show up on the driver's list.  So, I've still got blue men.
[02:55] <tyche> Forgive the delay, I was out to supper (not to be confused with 'out to lunch')
[02:57] <ailo> tyche: geforce 210?
[02:57] <tyche> Nvidia GeForce GT 520
[02:58] <ailo> Not totally certain what exactly did make the issue go away. I would have bet it was the driver, since it was when updating that as the problem went away
[02:58] <ailo> tyche: flahs version?
[02:58] <ailo> flash*
[02:58] <ailo> Version: 1:2.8.4
[02:59] <tyche> Well, Ubuntu should come out with 295.59 sooner or later.
[02:59] <ailo> tyche: I also only had problems at some specific site, where they were using newer tech
[03:00] <ailo> A more recent version of flash required, etc
[03:00] <ailo> Ni problems on Youtube for me
[03:00] <ailo> No*
[03:00] <tyche> This is YouTube.  And my Shockwave Flash version is 11.2r202
[03:00] <ailo> Maybe it's just different on different devices
[03:00] <tyche> Could be.
[03:01] <tyche> It's just nice to listen to a Rochester, NY Classical Music station in stereo (I'm in Arizona)
[03:03] <tyche> Debian didn't have the controls to handle the Bose speakers.  And, come to find out (after all this time) all I had to do was go into a terminal and bring up alsamixer, and press F6, and select the Bose speakers.
[03:03] <tyche> That's for PulseAudio.
[03:04] <tyche> It's finally out of Alpha, and actually into Beta.  A few more upgrades of the program and it might actually make RC1.  :-D
[03:04] <ailo> tyche: You could try Ubuntu Alpha
[03:05] <ailo> It's more up to date than wheezy
[03:06] <tyche> Ubuntu Studio has some nice things with it.  I'd have to figure out what they all are, and spend 4 hours downloading them through Synaptic, or even go out on the web to get them.
[03:06] <tyche> Ubuntu studio is Ubuntu 12.04
[03:07] <ailo> tyche: As for the Bose speakers, I suspect that is not a distro specific issue, but a PA/alsa issue. PA only likes to manage software levels. While they sometimes are also hardware levels, only alsa-mixer, or a chip specific mixer can control HW levels on cards
[03:08] <ailo> tyche: What you miss, if you don't install Ubuntu Studio from DVD is the audio stuff
[03:08] <ailo> I mean performance wise. Realtime privilege
[03:08] <tyche> Yes and no.  All three devices show up.  The onboard card at HW:0, Bose at HW:1, and the HDMI from NVidia for HW:2
[03:08] <ailo> tyche: Even if PA shows the device, it won't show you HW levels, unless they are also SW levels
[03:09] <ailo> If there's any internal mixing on the card, PA will likely not show it
[03:09] <tyche> Trust me, that came down the first time I actually went into Ubuntu Studio.  About 4 hours worth.  Almost 500 packages, including kernel updates.
[03:10] <tyche> Cable.  Meh!  But better than satellite, considering that I'm on the landing path for Mesa Gateway Airport/Williams Field.
[03:11] <tyche> And when the AF Fast Movers go over, they can mess up television reception.  Can you imagine downloading a kernel update when they go over? >snicker<
[03:12] <ailo> I guess I would prefer cable :)
[03:12] <tyche> Yep.  My thoughts exactly.
[03:12] <tyche> Thanks for your help, though.
[03:12] <ailo> np
[03:13] <tyche> It's nice to talk to someone who can understand me with my limited tech ability.
[03:13] <ailo> You seem to know your way around well enough
[03:14] <tyche> Well, I putter around, some.  But mostly I consider myself a perpetual n00bie.
[03:14] <tyche> There's just too much I DON'T know.
[03:14] <ailo> Luckily, there's always someone to ask who knows more than oneself :)
[03:15] <ailo> About any particular subject
[03:15] <ailo> I do that quite a lot myself
[03:15] <tyche> BTW, the reason it took me 2 weeks to get my monitor straightened out was because I edited the xorg.conf, and miss-typed something.  I finally had a friend look at it, and we solved it in ten minutes.  Now you know my programming abilities.  Nil
[03:16] <ailo> I haven't messed with that file for a long time
[03:16] <ailo> Not since they started managing that automatically
[03:16] <ailo> You needed something specific?
[03:16] <tyche> That's what I had to do to upgrade the NVidia driver on Wheezy, originally.
[03:17] <ailo> I only started using Wheezy pretty recently
[03:17] <ailo> Could be they sorted that out
[03:17] <ailo> Settings are automatic at each boot, until you make a save using nvidia-settings, in which case a xorg.conf is created
[03:17] <ailo> Before that, there is no xorg.conf
[03:18] <ailo> Something similar for ATI, I suspect
[03:18] <tyche> The GT 520 wasn't recognized, because it was too new.  And the Samsung wasn't recognized at all (27 inch monitor).  All new equipment, and it started life as a Windows machine.  It was still-born.  I hit it with GParted before it even had a chance to start.
[03:19] <tyche> I don't know.  All I know is that because it couldn't recognize my card and monitor, I was reduced to the level BELOW 640 X 480
[03:19] <ailo> Probably due to the noveau driver?
[03:20] <tyche> I felt like I had to step outside the room to view the screen.
[03:20] <ailo> The kernel itself should be more up to date than any other OS on the planet
[03:20] <ailo> Other than Linux based, that is
[03:20] <ailo> But graphic cards are not included in the kernel in the same way as hard drives, etc
[03:21] <tyche> Yea, the kernel knew what it was doing.  Once I finally got the xorg.conf figured out, it went to 1920 X 1080, slick as you please.
[03:24] <ailo> The kernel is probably one of the most spectacular pieces of software ever, since it works on either supercomputers or smartphones. Only, it doesn't have every driver for every HW. It's a lot more fun using Linux when it works, I feel, since you mostly just plug in stuff, and it works already, without having to install, register, go to web sites, update separately, etc. Yet, since you seldom buy a computer with linux preinstalled, yo
[03:25] <ailo> As opposed to the other two OS's, where you buy the computer, and someone already installed and made sure everything works
[03:26] <ailo> Also, Linux is yet not a common Desktop system, so it doesn't get much support for that from companies.
[03:26] <tyche> Yea.  That's how I learned to use a needle to open the CD/DVD drive and drop in Gparted.  Then it's a fast wipe and partition into four drives, and install on one.  Data goes on a second drive, and the other two are playgrounds until I find something I like better than what I'm using.
[03:28] <tyche> I find it a LOT easier than Windows (and the last Windows I used was XP at work, 5 years ago).  My wife has Windows 7, and the few times I went in to fix things, I felt lost.
[03:28] <ailo> tyche: What's a needle?
[03:28] <tyche> Thin, metal, sharp pointy thing used to sew.
[03:29] <ailo> tyche: Ok :D
[03:29] <ailo> I think Win7 is probably 100x better than Vista, but it's still only Windows
[03:30] <tyche> It has a hole at one end to put thread through, and enough room for my wife's fingers.  You don't think I'M stupid enough to touch something that dangerous, do you?  (I'm kidding.  I actually have sewn, on occasion.  My cats laughed)
[03:31] <tyche> Only Windows.  that's like saying ONLY a bovine byproduct used for fertilizing roses
[03:31] <ailo> I guess it's a lot up to the user too, how they administer the machine
[03:32] <ailo> Those win7's can get slow and troublesome, just like previous versions
[03:32] <ailo> Probably true for other OS's too
[03:33] <ailo> People who aren't good with Linux will often just reinstall, problem fixed
[03:33] <tyche> One thing I found with windows when I HAD to use them regularly, was to remove all .bak, .tmp and the help files helper files, then defrag three times.
[03:33] <tyche> It kept them from crashing every two hours when running AutoCAD 2000
[03:34] <ailo> Yea, defragging. Been a long time since I did that. Was fun the first few times
[03:34] <ailo> On Win 98 I think
[03:34] <tyche> Yep.
[03:34] <ailo> Watching the bytes get ordered
[03:35] <tyche> A royal pain when we were on a rush to get drawings out to the contractor.
[03:37] <tyche> It was so bad that we had a motto in that department.  SAVE OFTEN
[03:41] <ailo> By this time, everything aught to have auto save, one would think
[03:41] <ailo> At least, very soon
[03:41] <ailo> With faster systems, there's no reason why not to
[03:42] <tyche> AutoCAD did.  It was a pain in the neck.  At least doing it manually we could CHOOSE when to be interrupted.
[03:42] <ailo> It shouldn't be noticable
[03:42] <ailo> It's just writing to harddrive
[03:42] <ailo> Doesn't need to take over everything else
[03:43] <tyche> some of my drawings went 25 meg or more.
[03:43] <ailo> Should only write what was changed too
[03:43] <tyche> And both AutoCAD and Windows had the same problem.  They thought that they were the only thing on the system.
[03:44] <tyche> These were FULL saves.  Incrementals didn't work well with AutoCAD drawings (at least then)  We'd end up with all sorts of glitches and lost  portions.
[14:29] <danlin> hello
[14:29] <danlin> i need help to configure my m-audio fast track pro [USB] with ubuntu precise
[14:31] <danlin> i need help to configure my m-audio fast track pro [USB] with ubuntustudio precise pangolin ,so it's more clear
[14:31] <dak01234556> Hey
[15:11] <danlin2> I need help to configure m-audio fast track pro with ubuntustudio precise , I'm trying to use qjackctl
[16:18] <len-dt> milk, where you the one who wanted to have an app to split your keyboard?
[16:18] <milk> hello there
[16:18] <milk> uhm, nope, wasnt me :)
[16:19] <len-dt> OK, I was talking to some can't remember who.
[22:28] <sunz> skype incoming call window is rendered off the screen! how to get it back on screen?
[22:38] <ailo> sunz: That sounds like a xubuntu Q :). Sure it's not on another workspace?
[22:47] <sunz> ailo, its ubuntustidio running XFCE, its not on another workspace ,but u suspect it somewhere outside visible screen dimensions