[00:04] <L3top> iharp: you could just load a live cd and run the command.
[00:12] <Daskreech> I think iharp specifically did not want a live environment
[00:13] <Daskreech> for some reason
[00:15] <Daskreech> Hello Mamarok
[00:15] <Mamarok> hi Daskreech :)
[00:15] <Daskreech> Mamarok: how are you doing?
[00:16] <Mamarok> not that bad, waiting for the painkillers to kick in so I can sleep
[00:17] <Daskreech> They do provide a kick
[01:07] <nicekiwi> hey, how do I get the screen brightness settings to work? The notification bar comes up but the brightness dosnt change
[01:21] <Daskreech> nicekiwi: We were just talking about that the other day
[01:22] <kumyuu> hi, who is channel spanhis?
[01:24] <IdleOne> what?
[01:24] <IdleOne> oh
[01:24] <IdleOne> !es  kumyuu
[01:24] <IdleOne> !es }  kumyuu
[01:24] <IdleOne> err
[01:24] <IdleOne> sorry
[01:24] <FloodBotK1> IdleOne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <IdleOne> !es |  kumyuu
[01:24] <kumyuu> gracias
[01:24] <IdleOne> de nada
[02:51] <hx> d
[02:59] <hellslinger> how do I make a line between two shapes in calligra flow?
[03:06] <hellslinger> how do I connect two shapes in calligra flow? I've selected the tool, but I'm unable to figure out how to connect shapes
[03:06] <Daskreech> hellslinger: Umm not sure let me look
[03:06] <Daskreech> Neevr tried flow :)
[03:07] <hellslinger> it seems like a perfect program, but I can't do the most basic thing
[03:08] <Daskreech> Ha ha well I guess we have different descriptions of perfect
[03:09] <hellslinger> well.. seem is the key word there
[03:09] <hellslinger> so for one of the control points, I was able to connect to another shape
[03:10] <hellslinger> but the rest of the control points don't turn into a connection tool when I hover
[03:10] <hellslinger> and I don't know how to make it do that
[03:12] <hellslinger> oooh if I create any new connection points on a shape, I can no longer connect it
[03:12] <hellslinger> but fresh shapes that haven't been modified are able to connect
[03:18] <iharp> daskreech: In response to your response at 18:44 about the support of my ATI radeon 9200 SE on 12.04. I'm trying to figure out if there is any support for it without live cd or using  lspci -nn | grep VGA.
[03:19] <Daskreech> iharp: Do you mean if it will boot?
[03:20] <iharp> Daskreech: It will boot but there weren't any proprietary drivers for it and the open gl was an issue from my past experience with it on 12.04
[03:21] <Daskreech> ah
[03:22] <iharp> I've got 4 video cards and none of them work on 12.04... :(
[03:22] <iharp> make that 5
[03:23] <Daskreech> all the same make?
[03:23] <iharp> no. Ill list them
[03:26] <iharp> ATI radeon 9200 SE, Geforce2 MX400, two other nvidia cards with no lable so im not sure what they are, and my integrated Geforce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2
[03:26] <Daskreech> the kernel doesn't identify them?
[03:26] <iharp> They give out video and thats about it.. They all work on 11.10 though.
[03:27] <Daskreech> wow
[03:27] <iharp> perfectly with prop drivers
[03:27] <Daskreech> did you try 12.10 ?
[03:27] <iharp> Yeah
[03:27] <Daskreech> how'd that go?
[03:27] <iharp> Just video, I had no openGL support on any of them
[03:28] <iharp> I think the H.A. was off on a few as well
[03:28] <iharp> 12.10 doesn't work with my macbook 1,1 either..lol or anything after hardy.. :(
[03:29] <iharp> I call it bad luck... or demons.. possibly demons...
[03:30] <Daskreech> Daemons
[03:30] <iharp> No.. i actually meant demons..lol
[03:31] <iharp> it was a joke... :p
[03:33] <Daskreech> I know :)
[03:33] <Daskreech> So was the daemong
[03:33] <Daskreech> s/g/s
[03:34] <iharp>  lol
[03:39] <Daskreech> I don't know how to check if something works with out checking it
[03:40] <Daskreech> I would guess that checking is a better way
[03:41] <iharp> Is there a list somewhere with compatiable video cards on 12.04?
[03:42] <iharp> Maybe that could get me in the right direction
[03:42] <iharp> I only found one on the main sight but it didn't say anything about 12.04
[03:42] <iharp> site*
[03:46] <Daskreech> I don't think I'd trust that list if it did exist
[03:47] <iharp> Wouldn't be accurate?
[03:52] <Daskreech> Right
[03:52] <Daskreech>  it would be missing cards
[03:52] <Daskreech> sometimes it would be subjective (the person just didn't test correctly) and probably would not take note of driver updates
[03:53] <Daskreech> Redhat I trust for this. The Ubuntu Community? not so much
[03:53] <iharp> What about Suse?
[03:57] <Daskreech> iharp: I've not looked at the lists they keep up but depending on who's in charge that might be reliable.
[03:58] <Daskreech> It really depends on the running of checklists and methodology
[03:58] <iharp> daskreech: Thanks for all your insight. I appreciate it
[03:58] <Daskreech> There are very strict guidelines on that for Redhat and they have whole depts that keep that up to date
[03:58] <iharp> wow. nice
[03:59] <Daskreech> Suse could have one person but as long as they vigilant about following the checklists then that would work as well
[04:00] <Daskreech> Ubuntu has guidelines put up but afaik there is no way to know if the data submitted is followed ( I have no reason to think they didn't follow them) and if anyone does follow ups (I have no reason to think that anyone does that at all)
[04:00] <Daskreech> In theory once you have the same kernel/driver it doesn't matter what flavour of linux you are running
[04:01] <Daskreech> But redhat and debian are out of the running as they are jsut so old compared to the rest of the landscape
[04:01] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Any packaging experts around?
[04:04] <iharp> Daskreech: yeah I've been looking at all the differences. I've been a linux user for about 6 months now so I'm still fairly new to everything, but it seems like the linux portion of the world is a lot better even if you do have a few compatibility issues here and there.
[04:04] <Daskreech> contrast: want to ask your next question?
[04:04] <Daskreech> iharp: Welcome to Linux and KDE :)
[04:04] <iharp> Ubuntu and it's variants have been my main focus
[04:05] <iharp> thanks
[04:05] <contrast> I recently made a number of packages, following this guide - http://is.gd/TWpHJh - to a T, and now I'm wanting to upload them to a PPA. I'm really hoping there's a way I can easily extract the necessary .changes files from the .debs I've already put a good amount of work into..?
[04:06] <Daskreech> contrast: Jsut edit the changelog if I understand you
[04:07] <Daskreech> iharp: Ubuntu and it's buntuites are nice. They ahve a very friendly community for learnign
[04:07] <Daskreech> learning
[04:08] <contrast> Daskreech: Erm, that's the thing - the only changelog files I have are already cooked into the packages I'm working with. I can extract them, but they're still just in <package-name>/usr/share/doc/changelog.gz and <package-name>/usr/share/doc/changelog.Debian.gz
[04:10] <contrast> Daskreech: And what I'm needing in order to upload to a PPA is <package-name>_<version>_source.changes
[04:12] <contrast> Good seeing you're still around, by the way, Daskreech. I'm pretty sure I remember you helping me out quite a while back. :)
[04:12] <Daskreech> contrast: :-)
[04:13] <Daskreech> contrast: ok hold on
[04:13] <contrast> Daskreech: Thanks.
[04:15] <iharp> What are the major differences in 11.04 and 11.10?
[04:19] <L3top> iharp, again... if you could just boot to a live disk just to get the hardware output, I can tell you if it is supported by fglrx. I know them by chipset/pci-id... not the info you gave. I know them all, but by different designation.
[04:20] <contrast> iharp: Maybe most notably for Kubuntu - KDE 4.6 vs. 4.7 (http://kde.org/announcements/4.7/)
[04:21] <iharp> L3top: I am. I'm going to install 12.04 and run the bit. I'll just compile a list of outputs on my cards and come back with the results
[04:21] <iharp> *run live disk
[04:21] <L3top> Or, iharp I can give you a regex grep to run that will tell you.
[04:22] <L3top> If it returns a result... it will not be supportedd. If no result, then fglrx is safe.
[04:22] <iharp> ok, that sounds great.
[04:22] <iharp> thank you
[04:24] <Daskreech> L3top: so that tests for things that work and doesn't say anything?
[04:26] <L3top> Well... I can certainly just change it a bit to do the opposite... but it is easier to grep the things it doesnt cover than the things it does.
[04:26] <L3top> It is just part of a chunk of things I do for autodetection.
[04:28] <iharp> L3top: Do you have a link for it?
[04:28] <iharp> L3top: or is it something you could pastebin?
[04:29] <L3top> well I am adjusting it a bit iharp. It makes more sense to give you a clearer output... and I am a little more aggressive than need be because this is part of an autoinstallation, and I just dont want to bother with certain chipsets that require massage to work... just give me a moment.
[04:30] <iharp> L3top: take your time. I'm just messing around with a few things over here anyway
[04:31] <Daskreech> contrast: you read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage already ?
[04:34] <contrast> Daskreech: Not yet, mainly because it's not immediately relevant to what I'm doing so far (I'm just packaging little stuff that doesn't need compiling right now, like scripts and theme items, hence the previously linked "Debian Binary Package Building HOWTO").
[04:36] <contrast> Daskreech: Erm, sorry, seems I had that last link you gave confused for another one... <reading>
[04:39] <contrast> Daskreech: Okay, yeah... Unless I'm missing something, it seems that's still just geared towards packaging stuff that actually has to be compiled. Right now I'm just working with scripts and binary content. :\
[04:39] <L3top> iharp: rad=$(lspci -nn | grep 'VGA' | grep -Ei '((R.)([2-5])|(9|X|ES)(1|2?)([0-9])(5|0)0|Xpress)'); if [[ -n "$rad" ]]; then echo "fglrx will not work on this card"; else echo "fglrx safe to install"; fi
[04:40] <iharp> Thanks. I'll try running that here after I dl this 32bit distro and let you know how it works out for me.
[04:41] <L3top> iharp actually... that could provide a false result if there is something non-vga listed use this instead: rad=$(lspci -nn | grep -w 'VGA' | grep -Ei '((R.)([2-5])|(9|X|ES)(1|2?)([0-9])(5|0)0|Xpress)'); if [[ -n "$rad" ]]; then echo "fglrx will not work on this card"; else echo "fglrx safe to install"; fi
[04:42] <Daskreech> contrast: Ok
[04:43] <Daskreech> contrast: then get a .changes file either from debuild or someone else and just edit it to say what you need
[04:43] <Daskreech>  new wallpapers or what changes have been put in the script etc
[04:43] <Daskreech> that should be fine
[04:44] <iharp> ok. one last question. I know this sounds crazy, but... Is it possible to take a DvD and install multiple bootable isos, while installing something on the disk that would allow you to choose which image to boot from?
[04:44] <contrast> Daskreech: Ahh, okay... So how do I generate a changes file?
[04:44] <Daskreech> from debuild
[04:44] <Daskreech> if anythign read up on debuild and that should be a good place to start
[04:44] <L3top> !remaster
[04:45] <c2tarun> Hi, do anyone have any idea about vsftpd?
[04:45] <Daskreech> course the less code you are putting together the mroe likely you'd jsut hand code the changes
[04:45] <iharp> Say a DvD with 12.04 and 11.10 on iL3top: was that for me?
[04:45] <Daskreech> iharp: pretty easily
[04:45] <c2tarun> I installed vsftpd and copied few files to /srv/ftp. Now I want to download these files to my another machine on wifi, how can I do it?
[04:45] <L3top> yes iharp.
[04:45] <iharp> thank you
[04:46] <L3top> np
[04:46] <Daskreech> I had a DVD with 9 OSes on it. To be even crazier it had a VM on it so you can boot the DVD into an OS then from that OS start a VM with the DVD and show off other OSes
[04:46] <Daskreech> c2tarun: ftp or sftp. Your choice
[04:47] <c2tarun> Daskreech, its my first time so I'll start with ftp first. then within few hours I'll try sftp also
[04:47] <Daskreech> c2tarun: what OS is on the other machine?
[04:47] <c2tarun> windows
[04:48] <Daskreech> if you have filezilla it will get you both ftp and sftp
[04:48] <c2tarun> there is also Ubuntu on that, but I will try with windows, as my roomies prefer windows
[04:48] <c2tarun> on windows?
[04:48] <Daskreech> Yes
[04:48] <c2tarun> Daskreech, Thanks :) I'll try
[04:48] <Daskreech> Well presuming that you want to get the fiels from /srv/ftp
[04:48] <c2tarun> yup
[04:48] <Daskreech> which is on the unix box
[04:49] <c2tarun> Daskreech, yup
[04:49] <Daskreech> if you want to restrict them to those files then ftp will work (which vsftpd provides)
[04:49] <Daskreech> if you just want them to get access to grab files then you can set up a ssh account they can sftp over
[04:49] <Daskreech> your choice
[04:50] <Daskreech> on their side it looks exactly the same so they wouldn't care
[04:50] <c2tarun> Daskreech, ok, let me look for some tutorial on creating ssh acounts.
[04:51] <Daskreech> c2tarun: sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:51] <Daskreech> c2tarun: done
[04:52] <c2tarun> Daskreech, thanks :) I was looking for configuring and creating other stuffs on ssh. Frankly I never used it :(
[04:53] <Daskreech> c2tarun: it's just remote access
[04:53] <Daskreech> but has some nice perks like a fake ftp access that's encrypted
[04:54] <c2tarun> ok, where can I know more about it?
[04:56] <c2tarun> Daskreech, I just tried to access my machine from filezilla I am not getting copy or download option.
[04:57] <c2tarun> do I need to add any file permission to file in /srv/ftp?
[04:57] <Daskreech> c2tarun: I think so. You made an ftp user?
[04:57] <c2tarun> no
[04:57] <c2tarun> how?
[04:58] <Daskreech> how did you authenticate? Or do you have anon ftp access?
[04:59] <c2tarun> Daskreech, I was trying for anonymous access.
[04:59] <Daskreech> ah ok
[05:00] <Daskreech> http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/12/02/set-up-an-anonymous-ftp-server-with-vsftpd-in-less-than-a-minute/
[05:02] <c2tarun> Daskreech, I think this one will help. Thanks :)
[05:02] <Daskreech> Sure
[05:04] <c2tarun> Daskreech, one more help, in the tutorial its talking that vsftp.conf is in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf but in my pc it in /etc/vsftpd.conf so should I create new conf file here only? or should I create a folder?
[05:04] <Daskreech> c2tarun: No use the one that you have
[05:05] <Daskreech> that's a redhat vs Debian thing I would guess
[05:05] <c2tarun> Daskreech, ok, then I'll create its backup first. Thanks :)
[05:05] <Daskreech> backup!!
[05:05] <c2tarun> backup of default vsftpd.conf
[05:05] <Daskreech> It's absolutlely useless until 3 minutes after you really needed it
[05:05] <c2tarun> ohhh...
[05:11] <c2tarun> Daskreech, everything on that page is similar to the setting I have. In /srv/ftp folder the file I have is with permission rw-r-----  do you think I have to give read permission to everyone root, user, group?
[05:12] <Daskreech> c2tarun: did you test this before?
[05:12] <c2tarun> Daskreech, no, I thought I shouldn't change permission of any file on root partition.
[05:13] <Daskreech> c2tarun: :) I wouldn't count /srv/ftp as on the root partition
[05:13] <c2tarun> ohh.. OK :) I'll try giving read permission to everyone
[05:14] <iharp> If you guys haven't played 0a.d., you should. just saying.. :p
[05:15] <iharp> totally off-topic...lol
[05:16] <c2tarun> Daskreech, it worked thanks :)
[05:16] <c2tarun> iharp, are you referring to me?
[05:16] <Daskreech> iharp: I just installed it like 2 minutes before you said that
[05:17] <Daskreech> c2tarun: I think he meant the chan
[05:17] <iharp> i was talking about my comment being off-topic c2
[05:17] <iharp> lol
[05:17] <iharp> Daskreech: it's not complete yet but it's great
[05:18] <Daskreech> iharp: It's a Linux game. It's never complete :)
[05:18] <iharp> Daskreech: Yeah, im getting that..lol Wait til you get your butt handed to you like 10 matches in a row...
[05:18] <iharp> The AI cheats
[05:19] <Daskreech> iharp: AI is very hard to write.
[05:19] <iharp> I would think so
[05:19] <Daskreech> It's almost always either too hard or too easy
[05:19] <Daskreech> But to be fair a computer has such a disadvantage to any human that you have to make it cheat
[05:20] <iharp> Yeah, that's a good point. Those tricky humans....
[05:21] <ubuntufreak> Is there any way to check installation status of the list of selected softwares being installed in the Kubuntu 12.04 software center application ?
[05:22] <iharp> what's the reconfigure command for a program. Or does the program have to support it?
[05:26] <iharp> n/m   sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[05:32] <kish> what is .config/Trolltech.conf
[05:33] <kish> sound suspicious
[05:34] <Daskreech> kish: in what what?
[05:34] <Daskreech> Trolltech makes Qt the C++ framework that KDE is built on
[05:35] <Daskreech> bah
[05:35] <Daskreech>  what way not what what
[05:36] <iharp> Anyone had trouble with Gparted loading? It just says loading and then quits.  <--11.10
[05:38] <c2tarun> Daskreech, hey, I tried disabling anonymous_enabled from /etc/vsftpd.conf file and still I am able to copy the file from Filezilla. I also restarted the service.
[05:40] <kish> daskreech, ah i did not know that was the case
[05:41] <kish> kde is soo much better than gnome ;)
[06:19] <iharp> Does this mean something is broken?    http://paste.kde.org/513806/     It just popped up in my terminal.
[07:06] <JMichaelX> oh KDE... if it's not one bug, it's three
[08:57] <mlpokn> Guys. I've installed the proprietary AMD/ATI drivers, but I'm getting this in KinfoCenter: http://i.imgur.com/mpdyF.png
[08:57] <mlpokn> What's wrong? :)
[08:59] <tang> .....
[09:18] <mlpokn> pinotree: when I run: glxinfo | grep "render string" I get: OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics. So I get KinfoCenter is wrong.
[09:18] <mlpokn> lol
[09:56] <murat> does it ring a ding ding/
[09:58] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning murat
[09:58] <murat> good morning
[09:59] <murat> So how is it going here/
[09:59] <murat> Seems really quite
[09:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep been nice and quite
[10:00] <mydogsnameisrudy> afk coffee
[10:00] <murat> yeah i am having black tea with cheese on toast and jalapenos
[10:00] <murat> It is raining in london
[10:01] <mydogsnameisrudy> your in london ;) im in the michigan
[10:01] <murat> Weather is very tempremental
[10:02] <murat> 1 min sunshine 1 min rain
[10:02] <mydogsnameisrudy> its been very hot here
[10:02] <murat> Let me guess it is austraia?
[10:02] <mydogsnameisrudy> we should move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <iharp> L3top: you around?
[11:09] <gigix> hi guys
[11:09] <gigix> I try to use KDE Telepathy instead of kopete for instant messaging
[11:10] <gigix> but cannot get the presence applet to work
[11:10] <gigix> when I add it to the panel, no icon appears, though I can left click and set my status
[11:10] <oracleoftruth> Hello there. I'm having a problem with ktorrent. It won't open magnet links. Never had a problem before (new install; installed ubuntu and added kubuntu-desktop). Transmission seems happy to open them but I love  ktorrent
[11:15] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: hi
[11:15] <phoenix_firebrd> is ktorrent installed?
[11:16] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: hi
[11:16] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: hi
[11:16] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: you said you can left click and set the status, what did you click?
[11:17] <oracleoftruth> yes it is
[11:17] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: there's like a transparent space where the widget is supposed to appear I guess
[11:17] <oracleoftruth> definitely opens and under magnet the links appear. They never move to being torrents though
[11:18] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: did you set the default app as ktorrent for magnetic files
[11:20] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: I can provide a screenshot if you like
[11:20] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: that would be nice
[11:26] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: where can i upload the screenshot ?
[11:27] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: imagebin.com
[11:28] <oracleoftruth> I did. I'm using chrome and it opens ktorrent and adds them. doesn't download though
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: did you right click and start them?
[11:29] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: http://imagebin.org/219949
[11:29] <oracleoftruth> in ktorrent? Do I need to do that? Previous install of 12.04 just seemed to do it.
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: wait
[11:31] <oracleoftruth> ah. tried. No option to start them; looks like they are started but stil not working. I'll take a screenshot
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: its a bug
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: if you could file a bug report
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth:  who are the seeds?
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: can you file bug report?
[11:32] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: sure :)
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: ty
[11:33] <oracleoftruth> There are no seeds; it doesnt get that far
[11:34] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: no i mean who much active seeds mentioned in the torrent website
[11:36] <oracleoftruth> not sure what you mean
[11:37] <oracleoftruth> ah hang on. I know what you mean. There are loads of seeds; and the same magnet link opens fine in transmission and on another kubuntu 12.04 install I have
[11:38] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: purge and install ktorrent and try again
[11:39] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: wait
[11:39] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: do you have any pending torrents?
[11:40] <oracleoftruth> no i havven't sucessfully used it yet
[11:40] <oracleoftruth> already tried a remove purge and reinstall
[11:40] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: in that case , purge and install ktorrent
[11:40] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: oh
[11:40] <oracleoftruth> could try compiling new version from ktorrent site?
[11:41] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: start ktorrent from a terminal and see if you get any error messages
[11:42] <oracleoftruth> good idea: thanks
[11:43] <Smurphy> Moin
[11:43] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: done, thanks for help identifying the bug
[11:43] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: can you get me the report link
[11:43] <gigix> I'll be following it, I like the new ktp more than kopete and would like it to be functional
[11:44] <gigix> sure
[11:44] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-presence-applet/+bug/1022253
[11:44] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: oops sorry, you have to file in bugs.kde.org
[11:45] <gigix> got to go I'll connect later on, feel free to post comments on the bug report or contact me by IRC
[11:45] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: ok I'll correct that in the afternoon
[11:46] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: sure it's not kubuntu related, it's fairly functional in Fedora and Mageia
[11:46] <oracleoftruth> this any use (hope i don't anger the bot) ~$ ktorrent
[11:46] <oracleoftruth> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[11:46] <oracleoftruth> KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
[11:46] <oracleoftruth> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[11:46] <FloodBotK1> oracleoftruth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: bugs in kde should be reported to bugs.kde.org, packaging bugs in launchpad
[11:47] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: use paste,kde.org
[11:47] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: use paste.kde.org
[11:51] <oracleoftruth> http://paste.kde.org/513938/
[11:53] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: did you try port forwarding?
[11:57] <oracleoftruth> no but i have tried other routers and same problem. Nothing else has a problem
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[12:01] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_firebrd
[12:15] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: use my nick when chatting, i will get notified then
[12:16] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: just press p and they press to get my name
[12:16] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: its the nick tab completion
 ah thanks!!
[12:20] <phoenix_firebrd> oracleoftruth: there is no error message related to your problem in what you pasted earlier
[13:51] <skreech_> kish: KDE is pretty nice
[14:17] <kish> skreech_, damn you just answered a 6 hour question
[15:18] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: did my research on the bug kde tracker about the issue with the presence applet for KDE telepathy. It has been already reported and a fix has been committed. I have updated my bug report with a working solution suggested in one of the post which is to enable the applet through the system tray.
[15:18] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: thats nice, ty
[15:19] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: can you give me the bug report url
[15:19] <gigix> sure
[15:20] <gigix> phoenix_firebrd: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292476
[15:22] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: did you read about the workaround given in that bug report?
[15:23] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: oops
[15:23] <gigix> yes and it's working
[15:23] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: i forgot
[15:23] <gigix> I mentioned it in my bug report
[15:23] <phoenix_firebrd> gigix: what is your kde version?
[15:23] <gigix> 4.8.4
[16:16] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Any packaging experts around? I used this guide - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ - to make a bunch of packages (mainly for scripts, themes and whatnot) and I've been trying to figure out how to upload them to a PPA. I'm assuming I need to use debuild to generate the necessary .changes files from the .debs I already have, but I've been unable to figure out how. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:24] <BluesKaj> contrast, best to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[16:25] <contrast> Thanks, BluesKaj
[17:38] <kefir_> hi
[18:01] <u19809> hi all, I have 3.2.0-26 kernel installed (after upgrade of 12.04) and now the nouveau driver seems to want to load all the time but I would like the NVIDIA driver. How can I disable that nouveau driver ? I tried with blacklist but that does not seem to have any effect
[18:04] <BluesKaj> u19809, have you tried the recommended nvidia driver in aadditional drivers in kmenu>apps>system
[18:05] <u19809> that version installs the 295.44 which has problems for my old NVIDIA card.  I need the latest version
[18:05] <BluesKaj> no need to disable the nouveau driver
[18:05] <u19809> but it gets loaded before the NVIDIA and that one does not want to load anymore.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> which card , u19809 ?
[18:06] <u19809> GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i
[18:06] <u19809> XV does not seem to work very well (movies are very shaky)
[18:07] <BluesKaj> u19809, I have the geforce 7600 gt pci card is yours an onboard or pci ?
[18:08] <u19809> on board
[18:14] <BluesKaj> u19809, you can try the xedgers ppa driver 302.17 , dunno
[18:14] <BluesKaj> dunno if it will work tho
[18:19] <westyvw> how can i get the notification to add mp3 functionality to k3b to SHUT UP
[18:55] <mindspin> aloha, wie kann ich denn die schriftfarbe in der Kontrollleiste ändern? vor allem weiß auf grau bei den "popups" empfinde ich als extrem unangenehm.
[18:56] <L3top> !de | mindspin
[18:57] <mindspin> sorry, wrong channelwindow
[18:57] <L3top> np :)
[18:58] <mindspin> I 'd like to change the font color in the panel, white on grey is not useable for me, can anybody help? (12.04)
[18:59] <mindspin> especially the "popup" mesages are not userfriendly in my eyes
[19:00] <mindspin> I just switched to kde4, being a dy hard kde3-fan who used trinity until it was complete senseless without ofice working and firefox lagging ;-)
[19:01] <mindspin> so do not judge me to hard, I work with my computer firtsly and have no sense for eyecandy
[19:01] <mindspin> too even
[19:03]  * L3top is looking around in system settings mindspin. 
[19:03] <L3top> Now that you mentioned it, I don't like it either... so once I figure it out I will let you know
[19:06] <L3top> mindspin: K button/applications/settings/system settings/application appearance   & workspace appearance   /colors
[19:06] <mindspin> L3top: I tried to solve it there, with no result yet, but I#ll have another try
[19:07] <mindspin> the other, more important problem is that my broadcom wireless-device is not recognized (its a thinkpad t43)
[19:08] <mindspin> I installed severals packages with no effect, but I#m sure there is a solution, ucle google did not really help in may case
[19:08] <L3top> !bcm43
[19:08] <L3top> grr...
[19:09] <mindspin> hehe ubottu
[19:10] <BluesKaj> mindspin, system settings >workspace appearance>desktop theme...perhaps a differnt theme colour will help
[19:10] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[19:11] <mindspin> good bot
[19:12] <BluesKaj> minspin , try sudo modprobe b43 , then sudo ifconfig wlan0 up for your wifi
[19:14] <BluesKaj> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up,  is the command
[19:14] <L3top> !bcm43xx
[19:15] <L3top> I see... sorry BluesKaj...
[19:17] <BluesKaj> L3top, yeah are some legacy firmware info in that URL , not just the bcm43
[19:19] <mindspin> I love you guys, card is up, I can ping the gateway, but names are not resolved
[19:20] <L3top> I believe resolv.conf is depreciated... but I would look there.
[19:21] <mindspin> the wired card resolves fine
[19:21] <mindspin> I'll have a look
[19:21] <mindspin> thanks so far, the main problem was not knowing the right module
[19:22] <mindspin> the rest will be solved with a bitt of fiddling around
[19:22] <mindspin> great to be back in the kubuntian world
[19:36] <Daskreech> L3top: Really?
[19:37] <Daskreech> L3top: what's the replacement for resolv.conf ?
[19:37] <Daskreech> mindspin: Welcome back!
[19:38] <L3top> Not sure that it is accurate Daskreech... someone who generally knows things, cant remember who, in #ubuntu said this a few weeks back... I will try and figure out
[19:39] <Daskreech> L3top: Ok I'll try find out as well
[19:40] <L3top> resolvconf (tool)
[19:45] <L3top> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer/ http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[19:46] <L3top> editing the resolv.conf seems to be overwritten according to docs, each boot... so that tool is used to manage it now
[19:46] <L3top> Though this may just be for serving...
[19:51] <L3top> "resolvconf is now used to manage /etc/resolv.conf on all Ubuntu systems."  so... guess that is that... though... that tool isn't installed on my 1204 kubu desktop... so... who knows. I guess maybe that is just if you want to change it.
[19:53] <BluesKaj> yes l3 Daskreech , list your dns servers here now , /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head,  it will write them into /etc/resolv.conf ...it's weird but it works
[19:53] <BluesKaj> L3top,^
[19:55] <BluesKaj> ok , time to set up the BBQ ...finally cool enough to go outside for more than 5 mins
[19:55] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[20:02] <duarte> onde eu to
[20:06] <L3top> ahh awesome... ty BluesKaj.
[20:09] <L3top> BluesKaj: 104f here. I can only run from AC home to AC car or I will turn to ash like a vampire.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> L3top, well , relief is on the way if the cool gets down your way....we're 250mi N of Toronto and not used to 90+ temps...it's 77f here atm
[20:20] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[20:20] <tobiasBora> I've a little problem : I'd like to modify a shortcut in Kwin :
[20:21] <tobiasBora> but when I go in system configuration -> shortcut -> globals shortcut, kwin is absent.
[20:21] <tobiasBora> How could I see it again ?
[20:34] <skreech_> BluesKaj: Can that be initiated on the fly?
[21:02] <ilir_> Hi all
[21:37] <fouad> Hello, I am using linux-kubuntu on my dell inspiron 5030. My "Disable Touchpad" button (on my keyboard) doesn't work, how can i fix that?
[22:16] <andres__> help =(
[22:16] <andres__> ayuda
[22:17] <andres__> algun latino que me pueda ayudar?
[22:53] <fouad> Hello, I am using linux-kubuntu on my dell inspiron 5030. My "Disable Touchpad" button (on my keyboard) doesn't work, how can i fix that?
[23:05] <Daskreech> fouad: check the synaptics config?
[23:05] <Daskreech> !br
[23:09] <stripe> hi all, kubuntu12.04 64bit. having problems when  opening the home directory with nautilus from a desktop icon, the file opens then "greys out" for about 3 -5 seconds before it opens on the correct home folder. any ideas?
[23:13] <Daskreech> Grays out?
[23:14] <Daskreech> You just installed nautilus on Kubuntu ?
[23:15] <stripe> Daskreech: the new window is totlay grey, no text or anything, my bad its the standard Dolphin sorry.
[23:15] <Daskreech> Ah
[23:15] <Daskreech> How many files do you have in ~ ?
[23:16] <Daskreech> That only happens with me in one directory but it's chock full of files
[23:17] <stripe> very few, about 15 too 20 files and the bigest is a 56Mb mp4 video
[23:18] <Daskreech> That should be fine. Does it do it everytime you open it?
[23:18] <Daskreech>  As in it's not just the first time?
[23:19] <stripe> Daskreech: It happens about 20% of the time
[23:19] <Daskreech> if you close it and reopen it does it sometimes happen or does it only do it if you haven't opened it for a while?
[23:20] <stripe> Daskreech: mainly after it has not been opened for a while
[23:21] <Daskreech> stripe: Hmm ok cache perhaps>?
[23:21] <Daskreech> I'd probably open it from the konsole and see if it emits a notice before it goes grey
[23:22] <stripe> Daskreech:  have got 8Gb ram,  will try from Terminal
[23:22] <Daskreech> stripe: ah not thecache I was thinking of
[23:24] <stripe> Daskreech:  no messages when opening from Konsole.
[23:25] <Daskreech> IT went grey?
[23:25] <stripe> Daskreech: no it just opened as it is supposed too
[23:28] <Daskreech> That's good I suppose
[23:29] <stripe> Daskreech: I will try leaving it for a while and then try again opening from console and see if that does make a difference, thanks for the help mate
[23:30] <Daskreech> ok