[00:27] <silverarrow> hi
[00:27] <silverarrow> any ibook users here?
[00:27] <silverarrow> or preveous iBook users
[00:52] <Lukah> I've install rxvt-unicode-256colors and I don't have a menu entry for it.  Does lubuntu use .desktop files for the menu?
[00:55] <Lukah> nm, finally found how to refresh the menu
[01:04] <silverarrow> hi
[09:09] <Galeade> hi
[09:10] <Galeade> where can i find themes for lxde ?
[09:27] <melodie_> hello
[12:35] <silverarrow> I have just managed to install 12-04 on the G4 ibook
[12:36] <silverarrow> I have trouble with booting down, it doesn't do it properly
[12:36] <silverarrow> it sort of hangs with a black screen and a few clourded bits on the screen
[12:36] <silverarrow> I got help with the live boot up issue
[12:37] <silverarrow> apparently there is a bug that needs a command to handle the old ibook
[12:38] <silverarrow> so, no idea about the shut down issue?
[12:38] <silverarrow> anyone here at all?
[12:38] <silverarrow> lubuntu seems to run fine
[12:39] <silverarrow> just a few things that need attention
[12:40] <silverarrow> hi SkippersBoss
[12:40] <silverarrow> any clever with old macs?
[12:41] <silverarrow> anyone here at all?
[12:41] <silverarrow> it might be a general lubuntu issue though, it will not boot down smoothly
[12:41] <silverarrow> or even probable
[13:22] <silverarrow> how do I eject a CD in 12.04?
[13:22] <silverarrow> it's one of those slots that you just push the cd in
[13:23] <silverarrow> and the lubuntu cd is stuck !!
[13:24] <smile> silverarrow: open pcmanfm and click the eject icon on the left pane
[13:24] <smile> :p
[13:24] <smile> (the file manager)
[13:25] <silverarrow> oh hi
[13:25] <silverarrow> archivemanager?
[13:25] <silverarrow> hmm
[13:26] <silverarrow> I am booted from harddisk, and 12.04 doesn't seem to call it filemanager
[13:27] <silverarrow> pcmanfm ?
[13:27] <silverarrow> I'm newly installed and I don't even have wireless yet
[13:29] <silverarrow> there is usually a cd ikon on the desktop, but not this time
[13:30] <silverarrow> do you know anything clever from terminal?
[13:32] <silverarrow> oh, it popped out
[13:32] <silverarrow> diskutility,
[13:32] <silverarrow> disc
[14:06] <silverarrow> is there a clever way to store update packages, or restriced on CD or usb memory to get wireless working ?
[14:06] <silverarrow> I don't have wired connection options at all
[14:06] <silverarrow> at least not here
[14:25] <Na_Klar> with a plain lubuntu 11.10 installation, can I configure my default sound card? Because everything workes like a charm, but I want to switch the default sound card. At its best without installing asoundconf or pulseaudio.
[14:26] <hyperair> isn't pulseaudio installed on a plain lubuntu installation?
[14:27] <Na_Klar> nope
[14:27] <hyperair> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop on a base precise chroot shows pulseaudio being installed.
[14:27] <Na_Klar> at least not on 11.10
[14:28] <hyperair> oh 11.10
[14:28] <hyperair> let's see..
[14:28] <hyperair> nope, pulseaudio's still installed there
[14:28] <hyperair> unless it's a recommends..
[14:28] <hyperair> ah i guess it is
[14:29] <Na_Klar> dpkg shows just the libpulse0, which is not the pulseaudio application
[14:29] <hyperair> yes
[14:31] <hyperair> as for default sound card, there's something you can set in .asoundrc
[14:31] <hyperair> lemme just check it up..
[14:32] <Na_Klar> as far as I know .asoundrd implies having installed asoundconf..
[14:32] <Na_Klar> *.asoundrc
[14:33] <hyperair> no.
[14:34] <hyperair> .asoundrc is an ALSA thing.
[14:34] <hyperair> it's read by libasound
[14:34] <hyperair> http://paste.debian.net/178169/
[14:35] <hyperair> if you're not using pulse, you can use this as your .asoundrc file
[14:35] <hyperair> and change the 0,3 to whatever sound output device you wish to use
[14:36] <silverarrow> hi
[14:36] <hyperair> ah, the number comes from aplay -l
[14:37] <Na_Klar> so alsa uses .asoundrc but does not create it by itself?
[14:37] <hyperair> yes.
[14:37] <Na_Klar> ic
[14:37] <hyperair> it looks at ~/.asoundrc, if it exists
[14:37] <hyperair> failing which, /etc/asound.conf
[14:37] <hyperair> i think it might look at /usr/share/asound/ or something
[14:37] <silverarrow> do you know about the b43 blacklist bug ?
[14:37] <silverarrow> on 12.04
[14:38] <hyperair> no
[14:38] <silverarrow> I am struggeling abit with boot up related to it
[14:39] <silverarrow> it turns out you need to give the command "live b43.blacklist=yes" for the powerpc cd to boot on some ibooks
[14:39] <silverarrow> then " Linux b43.blacklist=yes" on the first boot, and it is suppose to stick for the next bootups
[14:40] <silverarrow> but I have to do it on every bootup
[14:40] <hyperair> extra kernel options don't get remembered.
[14:40] <hyperair> you need to put it in /etc/default/grub
[14:40] <hyperair> and run update-grub
[14:41] <hyperair> then your grub.cfg will be generated with the kernel option there.
[14:41] <silverarrow> trouble is I haven't wired network connection here
[14:41] <silverarrow> and wireless is a pain
[14:42] <silverarrow> is there a clever way to store driverpackages on CD and install from there?
[14:43] <hyperair> well if you know which package it is, you could do apt-get install $pkg --print-uris
[14:43] <silverarrow> I need to get wired connection
[14:43] <hyperair> then bring the list of URIs over to another machine, and download all the debs.
[14:43] <hyperair> then place the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and it should be fine.
[14:43] <hyperair> i think.
[14:43] <silverarrow> sounds good
[14:44] <silverarrow> brb, need to boot in lubuntu
[14:44] <hyperair> if you can bring it to another computer running lubuntu you could have it share its internet connection via wire
[14:44] <hyperair> networkmanager has support for internet connection sharing.
[14:44] <silverarrow> oh, very clever
[14:45] <silverarrow> thanks
[14:45] <silverarrow> do you know if there is frugal install option in the lubuntu CD?
[14:45] <silverarrow> sort of wizard run thing
[14:45] <hyperair> what's that?
[14:46] <hyperair> frugal install?
[14:46] <hyperair> some sort of minimalistic install?
[14:46] <silverarrow> it's when you boot up live cd, and you have a folder on the computer harddrive where things are stored, settings, it runs like a full os but minimal storage space
[14:47] <silverarrow> I have only one ibook, and the other comptuer would boot a i364 cd
[14:47] <silverarrow> 386
[14:48] <silverarrow> but that might not matter much
[14:48] <silverarrow> brb
[14:51] <Na_Klar> hyperair, ty for the support.
[14:59] <hyperair> no problem
[15:13] <Na_Klar> ^^ wat? Although I modified /etc/xdg/libfm/libfm.conf and /etc/xdg/lubuntu/.../libfm.conf the ~/.config/.../ligfm.conf always backup at restart. I cannot make the modification permanent? Why not?
[21:27] <melodie_> good night
[22:05] <Casey> do you use xteam?
[22:13] <Casey> or how do i pasta in xterm
[22:38] <pcroque> Casey: Click the middle mouse button, or try Shift-Insert.
[22:40] <Casey> ok well is lubuntu based on Debian
[22:40] <pcroque> Yes
[22:40] <Jacky> Casey: Ubuntu's based on Debian, and Lubuntu's on Ubuntu; quite polymorphic, really ;P
[22:41] <Casey> ok