[10:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:06] <philipballew> aloha czajkowski !
[11:07] <czajkowski> this ubuntu app showdown is causing some people grief
[11:07] <czajkowski> seeing people have issues with quickly
[11:07] <nigelb> ouch
[11:07] <philipballew> Ive herd. I have never used the app. but it seems like its a great app.
[11:07] <czajkowski> and a  lot seem to be very confused with a ppa :/ lp users mail has been very active this week
[11:08] <philipballew> Youd think using ubuntu you would know what a ppa is
[11:09] <philipballew> I have seen many people asking questions for this on askubuntu
[12:18] <popey> czajkowski, i wouldn't call one thread "very active" :)
[12:20] <czajkowski> popey: they also use the contact the team
[12:20] <czajkowski> which goes to admins :)
[12:20] <popey> silly rabbits
[12:20] <czajkowski> indeed
[12:20] <czajkowski> how was the bock bock
[12:22]  * czajkowski is heading to one of Gordon Ramsays restaurants today for lunch :D
[12:25] <popey> not had it yet
[12:25] <popey> tea time
[12:28] <czajkowski> ah I see
[12:28] <czajkowski> popey: collected the new addition yet?
[12:28] <popey> not until its 10 weeks
[13:07] <jokerdino> ping popey, where do i find that mass ppa purge tool of yours?
[13:07] <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/purgealltheppas
[13:08] <jokerdino> thanks
[13:08] <popey> np
[13:11] <nigelb> meme_for_app_name++
[13:16] <popey> :)
[13:16] <popey> patches welcome
[13:18] <jokerdino> popey: consider making a deb file xD
[13:18] <popey> in a ppa? :)
[13:18] <jokerdino> yep :P
[13:19] <jokerdino> _runs_
[13:19] <nigelb> popey: wait, does installing your ppa also remove the ppa for your app? :D
[13:20] <popey> i think you could argue it should
[13:20] <popey> the whole point of purging is to get rid of them
[13:20] <popey> and once you have got rid of them, you dont need the script anymore
[13:21] <nigelb> yeah, that's what I thought too.
[13:23] <jokerdino> anyway, i thought of an idea of removing packages that are only available in ppa.
[13:23] <jokerdino> remove the ppa, update apt and then figure out the packages that doesn't have installable candidate
[16:38] <jcastro> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23151384.jpg
[16:38] <nigelb> jcastro++
[17:04] <cjohnston> howdy
[18:41] <mhall119> wow, 82 submissions so far for the Ubuntu App Showdown
[18:42] <mhall119> jokerdino: ppa-purge is what you want
[19:06] <jcastro> mhall119: _what_?
[19:06] <jcastro> 82?!?!
[20:38] <mhall119> jcastro: more than that now
[20:41] <mhall119> 87 now
[20:41] <mhall119> we may top 100 before the deadline
[20:42] <nigelb_> hi
[20:43] <mhall119> hey nigelb_
[20:43] <nigelb_> bah, why am I underscored.
[20:43] <mhall119> not identified?
[20:43] <mhall119> no, you're identified...
[20:43] <mhall119> connected twice?
[20:43] <cjohnston> an imposter..
[20:43] <nigelb> aha.
[20:44] <nigelb> I reconnected and "nigelb" was locked for a bit.
[20:53] <popey> mhall119, mine might be ready at the last minute :D
[20:53] <popey> i have a problem though.. with a lens.. it says [All] in the filter, but I dont want to use that word, is that hard-coded do you know mhall119 ?
[20:54] <popey> https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-shopping is our attempt at a useful lens
[20:54] <mhall119> popey: that's part of the Dash, you can't change that
[20:54] <jcastro> mhall119: where do you see the list of incoming apps
[20:54] <popey> it looks up your country and tries to figure out which store to search
[20:54] <jcastro> is it a certain url?
[20:54] <popey> but if you're in (for example) mexico, there is no "Amazon MX" so we force it to amazon US..
[20:54] <popey> but if you want to, you can override it in the filter..
[20:54] <mhall119> jcastro: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/ has all the ARB's apps, not all of those are for the showdown
[20:54] <popey> to UK, JP, CA or whatever
[20:55] <popey>  but if you dont specifically choose one, you get "All" which is a bit of a lie, because the backend doesn't search "all" stores, just one, based on your locale..
[20:55] <popey> trying to figure out the best way to represent that in a filter.. suggestions welcome! :D
[20:56] <jcastro> mhall119: man that is sweet dude
[20:56] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/filters.png
[20:56] <popey> ^^ is what it looks like
[20:57] <paultag> mhall119: but alas, you have you have yet to get a lackie to write my politics lens :)
[20:57] <popey> i have a limited number of lackies
[20:58] <mhall119> paultag: I keep telling you I'm not important enough to have lackies
[20:58] <paultag> lies
[20:58] <paultag> ;)
[20:58] <mhall119> you're the Debian big-shot, shouldn't you have your own?
[20:58] <paultag> I do have a few, but none who would write a unity lens
[20:58] <mhall119> :P
[21:00] <popey> pffft
[21:00] <popey> if _I_ can write a unity lens, anyone can!
[21:00] <mhall119> jcastro: 89 :)
[21:02] <paultag> popey: it's not in Debian :)
[21:02] <paultag> popey: and since debian lackies run Debian, alas, no hope
[21:02] <mhall119> paultag: port it!
[21:02] <paultag> no wayyyy
[21:02] <paultag> it's unusable to me
[21:02] <paultag> I refuse to maintain it :)
[21:02] <mhall119> Ubuntu lackies write stuff for Debian all the time
[21:02] <paultag> sure
[21:02] <paultag> because you can use Debian stuff in Ubuntu
[21:02] <paultag> plus I'm as much Ubuntu as I am Debian
[21:03] <mhall119> Debian never downstreams *anything*
[21:03] <mhall119> ;)
[21:03] <paultag> hahhaa :)
[21:03] <cjohnston> lol
[21:07] <popey> I'd love to see unity in debian
[21:07] <popey> now is the best time to do it
[21:07] <popey> given we have 5.12 in 12.04 LTS
[21:09] <nigelb> except debian's in freeze.
[21:17] <paultag> yep
[21:17] <paultag> and it'd become unmaintained
[21:18] <paultag> since unity authors likely have no interest in maintaining it in Debian
[21:19] <mhall119> paultag: have you asked the unity authors?
[21:25] <paultag> mhall119: I have no interest in it, I don't like unity -- like, at all :)
[21:26] <popey> my team is responsible for releasing unity. I'd love for them to release to an open minded debian
[21:27] <paultag> popey: I'd be willing to sponsor a well-maintained and well formated (and un-gnome-brekey) Unity, but I won't be doing any work on it
[21:27] <paultag> I don't use it, and I can't see myself ever using it
[21:27] <popey> yes, I think you've made that point quite clear a few times
[21:27] <paultag> but if you need someone to review it, sure. I just won't be the one to do it :)
[21:58] <paultag> ← gone
[22:16] <mhall119> jcastro: 91
[22:17] <mhall119> almost every time I go back to my inbox there are 2 more submissions
[22:21] <nigelb> mhall119: heh, remember I talked about Flask at UDS?
[22:21] <nigelb> *UDS-O
[22:21] <nigelb> The author of Flask, Armin Ronacher, is an Ubuntu member. TIL.
[22:24] <mhall119> nigelb: yeah, I remember
[22:24] <mhall119> did he just become a member?
[22:24] <nigelb> Nope, since 2010 or so.
[22:24] <nigelb> er, 2005.
[22:24] <mhall119> oh wow, long-time member
[22:26] <nigelb> yeah!
[23:06] <jokerdino> mhall119: aye, i did use ppa-purge. i was just thinking of some other crazy idea. ;-)
[23:08] <jokerdino> btw, I totally didn't know nigelb was Nigel Babu. *goes crazy*.
[23:08] <nigelb> lol
[23:08] <jokerdino> howdy sir!
[23:09] <nigelb> Howdy! :)
[23:12] <jokerdino> so, you are up all night then?
[23:13] <nigelb> Going to bed shortly, I hope :)
[23:13] <jokerdino> haha, i am going off to exam later today :-)
[23:13] <nigelb> I've been up doing refactoring on a project
[23:13] <jokerdino> ah, that explains.
[23:14] <nigelb> The test refuse to pass on travis, works great locally.
[23:15] <jokerdino> sounds like a fun thing to fix :)
[23:16] <nigelb> I'm going to give this 30 minutes more and then give up :P
[23:16] <mhall119> w 59
[23:16] <jokerdino> nigelb: 30 minutes is enough you think?
[23:16] <jokerdino> what's that number Mr Hall?
[23:16] <nigelb> jokerdino: Nope. It's timeboxing.
[23:17] <nigelb> If this is not fixed in another 30 minutes, I'm going to ask my boss to take a look tomorrow.
[23:17] <jokerdino> ah right then.
[23:21] <jokerdino> time to leave for school now. see ya later everyone!
[23:27] <nigelb> laters!
[23:42] <bkerensa> mhall119: is the heat still pounding the east coast? :D
[23:44] <cjohnston> it was pretty hot out there today
[23:44] <cjohnston> but i think up north its worse