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| jagginess | socomm is telling people to rtfm | 00:15 |
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| ChristopherNg | Q/ | 00:23 |
| Myrtti | could you please repeat? | 00:23 |
| ChristopherNg | OK... | 00:23 |
| ChristopherNg | Basically, I met someone who calls himself "Fiberton" this was on EFNET | 00:23 |
| Myrtti | I just want your story on the record, and then I and perhaps some other ops have additional questions for you | 00:23 |
| Myrtti | right | 00:23 |
| ChristopherNg | He said that various channels, especially alot of the linux ones were used to form "scene" groups. | 00:24 |
| ChristopherNg | on Freenode. | 00:24 |
| Myrtti | right, and what do you mean by "scene" | 00:24 |
| ChristopherNg | These "Scene" groups are involved in various things, running botnets, piracy, identity theft, violation of intellectual property, doing DOS attacks and just breaking laws for lols. | 00:25 |
| ChristopherNg | "breaking laws for lols." is KAZAN motto | 00:25 |
| Myrtti | alright, and how does #ubuntu-offtopic fit into this? | 00:25 |
| ChristopherNg | He claims to be a security guy. | 00:25 |
| ChristopherNg | Myrtti: "Fiberton" thinks he is the next Kevin Mitnick. | 00:25 |
| Myrtti | I didn't really ask that | 00:26 |
| ChristopherNg | He basically openly said people use that channel | 00:26 |
| ChristopherNg | for doing what i mentioned | 00:26 |
| Myrtti | well that's not true | 00:26 |
| ChristopherNg | yeah well thats why ive been coming here | 00:26 |
| Myrtti | even if the channel isn't publically logged, the discussions in there don't have anything to do with anything aforementioned | 00:26 |
| ChristopherNg | let me put it this way. | 00:26 |
| ChristopherNg | who knows what is said in private convos? who is talking to who? and who is doing what? | 00:27 |
| ChristopherNg | We dont know. | 00:27 |
| Myrtti | well that's not in the channel then | 00:27 |
| Myrtti | that has nothing to do with the channel | 00:27 |
| ChristopherNg | yeah but im guessing they idle in there to be able to be contacted easily. | 00:27 |
| ChristopherNg | "If you are looking for KAZAN, Come find us" | 00:27 |
| Myrtti | so what's your suggestion then? | 00:27 |
| ChristopherNg | mostly on EFNET | 00:27 |
| Myrtti | so now hold on | 00:28 |
| ChristopherNg | Myrtti: kick inactives | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | that's just silly suggestion | 00:28 |
| ChristopherNg | dont let idles in there | 00:28 |
| ChristopherNg | well its a suggestion | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | so we have hearsay that you report from another network from a guy who nobody has ever heard of, who claims these preposterous things | 00:29 |
| Myrtti | and based on that hearsay, we should kick idlers off the channel? | 00:29 |
| ChristopherNg | I think "some" linux channels are used by these "scene" groups where they idle to be contacted quickly. | 00:29 |
| ChristopherNg | they use it like a mailbox | 00:29 |
| Myrtti | I suppose that's possible, but it is also possible that it's used for good. | 00:29 |
| ChristopherNg | yeah well, like i said thats what ive heard | 00:30 |
| Myrtti | I'm confused again, how does EFnet fit into the picture again, only the place where this person is? | 00:30 |
| ChristopherNg | Myrtti: EFNET in #startrek is where i seen him last | 00:30 |
| ChristopherNg | he moves around different IRC channels | 00:31 |
| ChristopherNg | he is like a phantom | 00:31 |
| ChristopherNg | Has a network of people that keep him supplied with fake accounts etc | 00:31 |
| ChristopherNg | thats how he survives | 00:31 |
| ChristopherNg | fake email, paypal, usenet, vps, shell accounts etc | 00:32 |
| ChristopherNg | its like a network., | 00:32 |
| ChristopherNg | really really complex | 00:32 |
| IdleOne | ChristopherNg: have you ever seen any discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic that might lead you to believe it was about any illegal activities? | 00:33 |
| ChristopherNg | IdleOne: not in the main channel, but who knows what these idle people who never say a word but have been here for such a long time are doing in private? | 00:34 |
| ChristopherNg | and using such channels to idle and get messaged | 00:34 |
| ChristopherNg | I mean you folks are here all the time... | 00:35 |
| ChristopherNg | there are alot of people im sure you have never heard say a word in channel | 00:35 |
| ChristopherNg | what are they doing? | 00:35 |
| ChristopherNg | 1 day? ok, 1 month? ok? 1 year? thats questionable. | 00:35 |
| ChristopherNg | they probably change nicks every few weeks anyway | 00:36 |
| Flannel | ChristopherNg: Hi, sorry, just got here. What do you suggesting we do about it? | 00:36 |
| ChristopherNg | ok, just keep an eye on these inactive/idle guys that you have seen for a long time, but never seen say a word. | 00:37 |
| IdleOne | Well, we appreciate you bringing this to our attention and we most assuredly will keep our eyes open for anything suspicious. | 00:37 |
| ChristopherNg | I mean if they have been here for so long, they must have atleast said something to someone? | 00:37 |
| IdleOne | Not sure if Flannel has anymore questions, but I think i am done. | 00:37 |
| ChristopherNg | Ol | 00:37 |
| ChristopherNg | ok | 00:37 |
| ChristopherNg | JUst one last thing. | 00:37 |
| ChristopherNg | These guys are professional anglers, not skids | 00:38 |
| Flannel | ChristopherNg: Alrighty. We'll see what we can do. Thanks for the headsup. | 00:38 |
| ChristopherNg | Dont be shocked if things like this happen right under your nose. | 00:38 |
| ChristopherNg | np | 00:38 |
| IdleOne | @mark #ubuntu AngrySpam98 bad attitude, doesn't answer question of those trying to help him, mild swearing. | 03:20 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 03:20 |
| chu | Interesting, no factoids about mono in ubottu? | 06:51 |
| bazhang | chu, you mean silverlight? | 09:14 |
| chu | So some guuy was talking about running .exe files in #ubuntu earlier, I sent him !wine, but he claimed that he could do it with mono. | 09:21 |
| Myrtti | yup | 09:22 |
| Myrtti | depending on if it is a mono app | 09:23 |
| ikonia | chu: mono moves the goalposts a little | 09:23 |
| Myrtti | then hou can | 09:23 |
| Myrtti | you even | 09:23 |
| ikonia | not all .exe's are "windows native", in that if they reference the .net libraries that have been ported to mono, and no windows base stuff, eg: MFC style stuff, then it will run | 09:23 |
| chu | Yeah, I don't know if it *was* a mono app, and I didn't pursue it that far as I simply didn't know what to do. | 09:24 |
| ikonia | mono is fussy on versions though too | 09:24 |
| ikonia | so just because it's a .net app, doesn't mean it will work with mono. | 09:24 |
| ikonia | it's a bit of a case by case situation | 09:24 |
| chu | But, I'm a bit surprised ubottu doesn't have anything about mono in her knowledge-base, or I just didn't know what the factoid was. | 09:24 |
| ikonia | Ubuntu's pulled mono out of it's base install | 09:25 |
| ikonia | there was a sticky package that used to be included that had to be pulled | 09:25 |
| chu | Well, WINE isn't in the base install, but has a factoid, right? | 09:36 |
| bazhang | !moonlight | 09:37 |
| ubottu | For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal. | 09:37 |
| bazhang | and that package is no longer in the repos | 09:37 |
| bazhang | pretty sure QQ is a different reference | 10:18 |
| bazhang | !find qq | 10:18 |
| ubottu | File qq found in empathy-common, enigma-data, enigma-level-previews, freecol, gap-small-groups-extra, gridengine-client, gridengine-common, hp2xx, hspell, iptux (and 42 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=qq&mode=&suite=precise&arch=any | 10:18 |
| oCean | qq-communicator? | 10:18 |
| oCean | never heard of | 10:18 |
| bazhang | its an asian irc/bbs/im-ish kind of protocol | 10:19 |
| bazhang | !find eva | 10:19 |
| ubottu | Found: ttf-devanagari-fonts, attal-themes-medieval, libapache2-mod-evasive, libecore-evas1, libeval-closure-perl, libeval-context-perl, libeval0, libeval0-dev, libevas-dbg, libevas-dev (and 16 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=eva&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all | 10:19 |
| bazhang | empathy can handle it, there used to be a package called eva that could too | 10:19 |
| bazhang | <Anduck> so uhh, has anyone posted something with (1),(2) or (3) here recently? <Anduck> the thing is, someone posted the code _right here_ in this channel and i need it. | 10:51 |
| bazhang | some kind of school quiz. he is hitting various linux channels and asking that | 10:51 |
| bazhang | <newbie|3> yeah i know perviously ubuntu released i could install repo without adding any address to sources.list | 11:01 |
| bazhang | that would be a trick | 11:02 |
| oCean | maybe he thinks of add-ppa or whatever the command is | 11:02 |
| bazhang | yep | 11:23 |
| bazhang | thought he was still banned | 11:44 |
| bazhang | so help22222 never actually answered any questions asked of him | 12:10 |
| ikonia | of course not | 12:10 |
| bazhang | that was odd. the IP looks very familiar though | 12:11 |
| ikonia | didn't check, just appeared to be a clueless guy | 12:11 |
| chu | ikonia: Is this guy in #u-o, the guy who has often asked borderline questions about North Kora? | 12:12 |
| ikonia | yes | 12:12 |
| ikonia | and in other channels | 12:12 |
| ikonia | does what he can to mention hitler/korea/provocative stuff | 12:12 |
| chu | Yeah. | 12:12 |
| bazhang | chu theskarmorie? | 12:13 |
| chu | Yep. | 12:14 |
| bazhang | he's got about 20 different nicks, same baiting repetitive questions | 12:14 |
| ikonia | I've told him to stop now, so just mute/remove on the next occasion | 12:15 |
| ikonia | the fact that he's doing it in other channels, it's just spam | 12:15 |
| TheSkarmorie | Hello, just because ikonia is in a bitter mood about something unrelated doesn't mean he should spill it on me for asking an advice question within the bounds of #ubuntu-offtopic. Just thought I'd let you know of this injustice. | 12:35 |
| ikonia | hello you've been spamming me in pm | 12:35 |
| TheSkarmorie | That was an angry outburst, ikon. | 12:36 |
| ikonia | sure, | 12:36 |
| TheSkarmorie | To anyone else who wonders, it was this paste: http://pastebin.com/y6LdxcZL | 12:36 |
| ikonia | you seem to be missing some key lines | 12:36 |
| ikonia | 13:32 <TheSkarmorie> Alright, motherphucker! You asked for it. | 12:36 |
| ikonia | repeating that | 12:36 |
| ikonia | but anyway, that doesn't change the fact that you are now banned from #ubuntu-offtopic | 12:37 |
| TheSkarmorie | That's what I pasted to him for kickbanning me after a question for advice evolved into some kind of emotionally-influenced disagreement. | 12:37 |
| ikonia | sure | 12:37 |
| ikonia | (if you're going to try to show what you pasted, it's best not to miss key lines including insults to try to hide hide it) | 12:37 |
| TheSkarmorie | Sorry that your loved one just died, or if you're a woman, that your PMS is making you epically moody, but don't spill it on me. That's what therapists are for. They're perfect to be cathartic on. | 12:38 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops TheSkarmorie continued to try to provoke after being banned for trying to provoke continued to spam in pm 13:39 <TheSkarmorie> PPPPPHHHHHUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK YOU! PHUCK YOU! PHUCK YOU - was then killed for flooding | 12:40 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 12:40 |
| Tm_T | aww | 12:46 |
| cryptopsy | how do i restart the mmc subsystem? | 18:12 |
| IdleOne | cryptopsy: This is not the support channel, you were sent here because you are banned in #ubuntu. Did you wish to try and resolve that ban? | 18:16 |
| Tm_T | I take that as a "no" | 18:21 |
| IdleOne | That is how I took it. | 18:21 |
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