[00:21] <usul> need terminal app in server gui
[00:54] <patdk-lap> usul, server has no gui
[02:10] <ping__> hy
[02:10] <ping__> help my
[02:11] <ping__> i instal squid on ubuntu server, but i can't cache youtube , why ?
[02:15] <ping__> hy
[02:16] <ping__> tes
[02:16] <ping__> tes
[02:33] <ping__> hy
[02:54] <martadinata> hmm
[02:55] <ping__> ded
[02:56] <martadinata> hmm :) yes
[02:56] <ping__> yuhu
[02:56] <ping__> yg lain pada tidur kali ya om
[02:57] <martadinata> don't know
[03:55] <ping__>  1 tes
[03:56] <ping__>  hy
[03:56] <ping__>  tes
[03:57] <ping__> tes
[03:57] <ping__> hy
[08:59] <eagles0513875> hey guys how can i need to set grub to default boot onto the xen kernel and that seems to be in a submenu on grub2 how can i see and set that kernel to boot by default
[09:10] <ikonia> you set it in the grub config files, re-run update-grub to generate a new config then reboot
[09:11] <eagles0513875> ikonia: problem is is that the kernel gets installed in a grub submenu
[09:11] <ikonia> that is not a problem
[09:11] <ikonia> you still set it in the config
[09:12] <ikonia> treat the menu process as a directory listing
[09:12] <eagles0513875> ok waht has me confused is that on a clean 12.04 install it seems to use a numerical listing to tell grub which kernel to boot
[09:13] <ikonia> well, it can be, starting from 0
[09:13] <ikonia> that was brought across from grub legacy
[09:13] <eagles0513875> ikonia: so i can use paths as well O_o
[09:14] <ikonia> no, not paths,
[09:14] <ikonia> when I said think of it as a directory listing, I meant treat the listing as a directory, eg: top level down
[09:15] <eagles0513875> i did this line according to help.ubuntu.com article sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_DEFAULT=.*\+/GRUB_DEFAULT="Xen 4.1-amd64"/' /etc/default/grub and updated grub and rebooted im guessing that command wont work would it?
[09:15] <ikonia> that's not going to work
[09:15] <ikonia> you can try it though, I could be wrong
[09:16] <eagles0513875> i did try it and it didnt
[09:16] <eagles0513875> and this is on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Installing_Xen
[09:17] <eagles0513875> ikonia: are the xen modules already compiled into the standard 12.04 kernel?
[09:17] <eagles0513875> which it seems like they are according to an lsmod | grep xen
[09:18] <ikonia> what are you talking about modules ?
[09:18] <eagles0513875> kernel modules
[09:19] <ikonia> what are you actually asking ?
[09:19] <ikonia> apologies if I'm not reading it clearly
[09:20] <eagles0513875> i know that as of the 3.0.x kernel stack release that xen has been included. question is do i need to install any special xen kernel or boot off a special kernel to use xen from what i have seen it seems like one needs to as the standard ubuntu kernels dont have xen compiled into it
[09:21] <ikonia> xen became part of the mainline kernel in 2.6.30-something, 33 ? 34 ? ish
[09:21] <ikonia> it should be in any kernel post that
[09:21] <ikonia> (you'll need to check 33-34, I can't remember which)
[09:22] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:22] <ikonia> anything post that will xen build into it's codebase, if that is an enabled option or not, is a different story
[09:30] <ikonia> eagles0513875: that wiki page you linked me to (just finished reading it) confirms that xen is part of the ubuntu kernel by default
[09:30] <eagles0513875> ok then why have i seen in grub a submenu with xen specific kernels
[09:31] <ikonia> what does that "sub menu" point to
[09:31] <eagles0513875> xen specific kernels
[09:31] <ikonia> which ones
[09:31] <ikonia> please name it
[09:34] <eagles0513875> ikonia: seems like that was in 11.10
[09:34] <ikonia> so basically you've not done any checking or home work on this
[09:36] <ikonia> why do you have 11.10 stuff on a 12.04 clean install ?
[09:36] <eagles0513875> i dont when i noticed this this was back on 11.10 i have 12.04 only now
[09:36] <ikonia> ah, so you've not checked this
[09:37] <ikonia> you've just assumed it was sub menus on 12.04
[09:37] <ikonia> when you've checked you've found it's not sub menus (I'm assuming)
[09:38] <ikonia> or is it still sub menu's on 12.04 too ?
[09:38] <ikonia> (shouldn't be as you shouldn't have a different kernel)
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ok well ill double check my home server again to make sure
[09:39] <ikonia> it's worth checking
[09:39] <eagles0513875> or even just reboot my netbook
[09:39] <eagles0513875> agreed :)
[09:39] <ikonia> please please, start trying to get your FACTS together
[09:39] <ikonia> how many times - stop making things up that you think are real, check and report on facts
[09:39] <ikonia> not picking on you, but we go through this same thing over and over,
[09:40] <eagles0513875> understood
[09:40] <ikonia> (you may well still have sub menus, but you need to check, and confirm)
[09:40] <ikonia> eg: you are looking at 11.10 kernels complaining about 12.04.
[09:40] <ikonia> need to stop that sort of thing
[10:40] <Anders-> Anyone able to help with Dovecot?
[10:45] <Anders-> I'm getting an internal login failure. From the log file :: Internal login failure (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=<username>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
[11:42] <Hanako> Nyaa~! I've just set up a Ubuntu 12.04 VPS, installed Apache2, MySQL and PHP... WordPress runs fine, so does Apache2... but WordPress doesn't seem to be able to touch any of the files in the www directory I've set up. My user has been added to www-data group, I've changed the owner of all files so they are in the www-data group and permissions are 770...
[11:42] <Hanako> And from what I can tell the sticky bit is set correctly as well... any ideas on how to fix the problem?
[11:42] <Hanako> (and Apache2 runs as www-data:www-data)
[12:03] <jacobw> Hanako: check /etc/apparmor.d/ for policy definitions restricting those processes
[12:05] <Hanako> ended up chowning the files... www-data is the new owner ^^;
[12:07] <jacobw> functionally equivilent if you set 770 :)
[12:08] <Hanako> I did.. even tried 777 and WordPress/Apache2 couldn't care less... XD
[12:10] <jacobw> apparmor is likely to ship with profiles that restrict both apache and php given that they're very large attack vectors, the problem might not be with apache or php but with apparmor limiting the abilities of the process through exec and the kernel
[12:10] <jacobw> or there's something weird going on :)
[12:10] <Hanako> and apparmor is automatically installed?
[12:13] <jacobw> i think it's been enforcing since 8.04
[12:13] <jacobw> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/apparmor.html
[12:14] <jacobw> an easy method to test if a behaviour is due to apparmor is to place the profile in to complain mode then restart the process
[12:14] <Hanako> guess debian doesn't use apparmor then ^^;
[12:15] <Hanako> since that was what I was using before
[12:16] <Hanako> thank you Jacobw :3
[12:16] <jacobw> http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Distro_debian#Not_Available_in_Stock_Debian
[15:43] <chmac> I'm looking for a simple mail relay, like nullmailer / ssmtp, but one which will accept a message by SMTP on port 25, and then forward it on. Any recommendations?
[15:43] <chmac> Something like postfix configured with a smart relay, but much, much simpler hopefully... :-)
[15:51]  * andol always find Postfix simple enough, especially for doing simple things.
[15:55] <glance> postfix is pritty simple.
[15:58] <qman__> have to agree, postfix is simple enough and easy to set up
[15:58] <qman__> those minimalist solutions, in this case, are more trouble than they're worth