[12:13] <leo-unglaub> hey guys..
[12:13] <leo-unglaub> ubuntu ist showing me that i have to do a dist-upgrade
[12:13] <leo-unglaub> http://pastebin.com/HtKDHujK
[12:13] <leo-unglaub> but is that right?
[12:13] <leo-unglaub> removing unity and ubuntu-desktop??
[12:19] <popey> leo-unglaub, if you do "sudo apt-get upgrade", what gets held back?
[12:19] <leo-unglaub> popey: libunity-core-5.0-5 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic unity unity-common unity-services
[12:20] <popey> leo-unglaub, what does apt-cache policy unity   return
[12:20] <leo-unglaub> unity:
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>   Installiert: 5.12+bzr2439ubuntu0+709
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>   Kandidat:    5.12+bzr2444ubuntu0+709
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>   Versionstabelle:
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>      5.12+bzr2444ubuntu0+709 0
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/staging/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>  *** 5.12+bzr2439ubuntu0+709 0
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>      5.12-0ubuntu1.1 0
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>      5.10.0-0ubuntu6 0
[12:20] <leo-unglaub>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[12:21] <popey> leo-unglaub, why are you using the unity team staging ppa?
[12:21] <leo-unglaub> popey: because the version witch was shipped with 12.04 was to broken on my system
[12:22] <leo-unglaub> i have 3 monitors here
[12:22] <leo-unglaub> and that was a hard one to work with
[12:25] <popey> the staging ppa isn't generally designed for end users to use on a production basis
[12:25] <leo-unglaub> i know...and i don't like it at all...but what else can i do if the "current stable" ist to broken on my system?
[12:25] <leo-unglaub> it was switching to the staging ppa or to a different distro..
[12:27] <popey> there are plenty of options in between bathing the baby and throwing the baby out with the bath water
[12:27] <popey> anway, which bug is fixed in staging which isn't in the stock unity?
[12:27] <popey> i.e. which bug is affecting you?
[12:30] <leo-unglaub> well, your example is not the same. but what would be the solution for that? ask you guys to backport a patch because otherwize it's not working?
[12:31] <popey> well I dont know what the bug you're experiencing is yet, so hard to say
[12:31] <leo-unglaub> i don't know the bug number...but my problem was...
[12:32] <leo-unglaub> if i have 3 monitors connected the mouse starts lagging
[12:32] <leo-unglaub> and the application switcher was sooo lame, it was simply imposible to work with
[12:34] <popey> you left a comment on bug 874619
[12:34] <leo-unglaub> i know, but thats not the one witch got fixed yet
[12:34] <popey> well that one is in commit 2470
[12:35] <leo-unglaub> yes, i know...but thats not the one witch was fixed yet
[12:37] <ugi> which and witch not the same. one has a pointy hat and broom for transportation
[12:38] <leo-unglaub> this is all very funny...but it isn't fixing my problem right now..
[12:38] <ugi> witches cant be fixed. must burn at the stake
[12:38] <leo-unglaub> ???
[12:38] <leo-unglaub> what are you talking about?
[12:39] <ugi> me? why are you talking witches?
[12:39] <popey> ugi, enough..
[12:39] <leo-unglaub> should that be funny?
[12:39] <popey> leo-unglaub, you could wait until that merge lands in the staging ppa
[12:40] <popey> and use do "sudo apt-get upgrade" rather than dist-upgrade till then
[12:43] <leo-unglaub> popey: but my current problem with the package upgrad is not on witch results from code changes..it's a dependency problem
[12:43] <leo-unglaub> in the debian files..
[12:45] <Fifo> Hello how do I enable Unity 3D in VMware?
[12:50] <popey> leo-unglaub, sure I'm just trying to get you back to using precise and precise/updates precise/proposed, rather than staging
[12:50] <ugi> seems not quite enough, but whichever ... or is that whatever? hmm  nm
[12:51] <leo-unglaub> popey: i know, but i can't do that because otherwize my desktop is not useable..
[12:51] <popey> how do you know that?
[12:51] <leo-unglaub> and ican't have a unuseable desktop for a few month
[12:51] <popey> we release stable release updates for unity
[12:51] <leo-unglaub> how i know? i just did the upgrade because otherwize i hade those problems
[12:51] <popey> they hit proposed then updates
[12:52] <popey> well this is why I was asking what the bug is, so I could trace where it is
[12:53] <popey> we cherry-pick updates for precise
[12:53] <leo-unglaub> i don't know the launchpad bug number..i have no idea if someone reported that...
[12:54] <leo-unglaub> there are so much buigs on launchpad that someone not involfed in the programm has problems to find anything
[12:54] <popey> i would recommend you purge the staging ppa, and take the version of unity in the precise updates
[12:54] <popey> and let me know if that's still an issue
[12:55] <popey> and if it is, file a bug
[12:55] <leo-unglaub> okay, if will do that...moment
[12:58] <Fifo> Hello how do I enable Unity 3D in Ubuntu 12.04 running in VMware?
[12:59] <popey> Fifo, does VMWare have some kind of guest extensions / drivers you can install?
[13:01] <popey> Fifo, personally i use virtualbox in which unity 3d works fine, I've never tried in vmware
[13:06] <Fifo> popey: Yes, VMware has VMware Tools, but it doesn't support Unity 3D
[13:06] <popey> bummer
[13:06] <Fifo> popey: I will try to use VirtualBox.
[13:07] <popey> with virtualbox, do the install and then in the guest just do "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11"
[13:07] <Fifo> popey: Ubuntu 12.04 needs PAE. How do I enable it?
[13:08] <popey> Fifo, i have not had to enable that in virtualbox
[13:09] <Fifo> popey: But I noticed that it needs PAE to work.
[13:09] <popey> Fifo, looks like its enabled by default in virtualbox
[13:09] <popey> in settings -> system
[13:09] <popey> there's "Extended features: Enable PAE/NX" which on my system is ticked
[13:09] <popey> and I dont recall ticking that myself
[13:10] <Fifo> I have enabled that, it's booting now (why does it take 5 minutes to boot?)
[13:10] <Fifo> (I'm running it from a real CD)
[13:15] <popey> Fifo, takes very little time to boot from an ISO on the hard disk. I rarely boot a VM from optical media
[13:17] <Fifo> popey: I didn't want to waste my disk space because my HDD is low on disk space so I deleted the ISO file.
[13:18] <popey> gotcha
[13:20] <Fifo> It's working...
[13:20] <popey> cool
[13:22] <Fifo> :)
[14:15] <davidcalle> Yo popey
[14:20] <davidcalle> popey, if you are doing country specific requests in a lens, I suggest using http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup or http://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org, in addition of locale.
[14:32] <popey> davidcalle, yeah, i saw that you'd used that in the wikipedia lens, I'll probably do the same.