[08:15] <Squirm> morning
[08:15] <Kilos> hiya Squirm and others
[08:22] <Kilos> bbl
[09:02] <Kilossis> Squirm, you still here
[09:03] <Squirm> I am
[09:03] <Kilossis> what do you know about wine?
[09:04] <Kilossis> how would one run a command in it if you cant find the command prompt
[09:04] <Kilossis> hehe if i can get wine working my sis will be happy with ubuntu
[09:04] <Squirm> what command are you looking to run?
[09:05] <Kilossis> ra2fix.reg
[09:06] <Squirm> run something like
[09:06] <Squirm> `wine regedit.exe`
[09:06] <Squirm> then import the .reg file
[09:06] <Kilossis> in my terminal?
[09:06] <Squirm> yes
[09:06] <Kilossis> ah ty
[09:07] <Squirm> wine runs applications, it doesnt open a desktop environment that you can use. so you have to run the exe you want
[09:07] <Kilossis> thanks so much
[09:15] <Squirm> Kilossis: much luck?
[09:16] <Kilossis> hehe im sukkeling to try get the file added to the right wine place to be able to import it
[09:17] <Kilossis> i put it in the aoe folder and told it import but dunno if it found it
[09:20] <Squirm> maybe put it in ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:22] <Kilossis> there with the folders program files, users and windows and not in one of them?
[09:24] <Squirm> if you put it anywhere in drive_c
[09:24] <Squirm> you will be able to browse to it easily with regedit
[09:24] <Squirm> so just stick it in drive_c for now
[09:24] <Kilossis> ok
[09:24] <Squirm> then run regedit, file, import and browse to the C drive
[09:26] <Kilossis> im in the registry editor gui not cli way, so drag/dropped it into drive_c and did the import bit
[09:27] <Kilossis> is it supposed to acknowledge anything?
[09:27] <Kilossis> i hate windows
[09:31] <Squirm> hmm
[09:31] <Squirm> idk, it might
[09:31] <Kilossis> hehe will try it now, ty Squirm 
[09:31] <Squirm> try
[09:32] <Squirm> on your command like, `wine regedit.exe C:\ra2fix.reg`
[09:32] <Kilossis> ok
[09:33] <Squirm> maybe you could check by opening up the reg file in gedit, in there you'll be able to see where the registry entry went to. just follow it in regedit itself and see if it did actually change anything
[09:34] <Kilossis> ok ill try that
[09:39] <Kilossis> grrr game starts i accept the agreement thing then it plays some music from the game and goes white screen
[09:40] <superfly> Kilossis: it never says anything when it imports
[09:40] <Kilossis> ty superfly windows stupid hey
[09:43] <Kilossis> Hkeys all over
[09:44] <Squirm> Kilossis: meither does linux. if a command executes successfully, it keeps quiet, if it throws an error, it tells you
[09:44] <Squirm> s/meither/neither
[09:44] <Kilossis> ah
[09:44] <Kilossis> ya i member that now
[09:49] <Kilossis> grrr plays half the intro music then nothing
[09:50] <Kilossis> i go pester #winehq not you guys prob. ty for the help
[10:26] <nuvolari> \o/
[10:26] <nuvolari> my first hover above 5cm :D
[10:26] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilossis 
[10:27] <Squirm> nice nuvolari
[10:27] <nuvolari> why are you sis oom?
[10:42] <Kilossis> yo nuvolari 
[10:42] <Kilossis> skuus ekt gaan eet
[10:43] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom kilos ?
[10:43] <nuvolari> :-/ My broer-hulle is vanogged terug huistoe
[10:43] <nuvolari> nou sit ek weer stoksiel-alleen
[10:43] <kilos> ja dankie seun en daar'
[10:44] <kilos> daar is so lied stoksiel alleen
[10:44] <nuvolari> het niks om oor te kla nie dankie oom
[10:44] <kilos> mooi
[10:45] <kilos> nuvolari, nou het jy nie verskoning om weg te bly hier nie ne
[10:48] <nuvolari> nee, nie rerig nie oom :P
[10:48] <kilos> hehe
[10:48] <nuvolari> oi, nou moet ek probeer dink wat ek met al die tyd gaan maak
[10:49] <kilos> haha ek is meeste van die tyd hier, net in en uit agter skape en kook potte aan
[11:44] <kilos> can you guys get in here
[11:45] <kilos> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=762?
[11:45] <kilos> i get an error everytime
[11:46] <kilos> Fatal error: iId should be a numeric value. Please try clearing out your cookies.
[11:46] <kilos> i have cleared all cookies
[11:56] <kilos> works with last ? deleted
[11:57] <kilos> but dont know what to do there, is it a download site for AOE2
[11:57] <kilos> i have it on cd
[11:58] <kilos> that site was the advice i got from winehq
[12:23] <charl> hi all
[12:23] <kilos> hi charl 
[12:28]  * kilos sees that appdb is a site for tips kinda
[12:32] <charl> hi kilos 
[12:32] <kilos> later
[13:09] <Kilos> charl,  what does this mean
[13:09] <Kilos> Bitte waehle ein Universum!
[13:10] <Kilos> is it german
[13:19] <charl> Kilos: that definitely sounds like german
[13:20] <charl> it would mean "please choose a universe"
[13:20] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[13:24] <smile> charl: that's right :)
[13:24] <smile> ^^
[13:25] <charl> dutch people's german isn't always that good but some basic german is ok :)
[13:26] <Kilos> ty charl 
[13:26] <charl> smile: there are german-speaking people living in east-belgium right?
[13:26] <Kilos> i cant get wine help in german
[13:26] <charl> Kilos: np
[13:27] <smile> Kilos: huh? :p
[13:27] <smile> charl: yes, that's right :)
[13:27] <charl> Kilos: aren't there any english version of the help? it's strange that it's only available in german
[13:28] <Kilos> trying to get AOE2 working in wine1.3 smile
[13:28] <smile> Kilos: I suggest trying wine 1.5.8 instead
[13:28] <smile> :)
[13:28] <Kilos> it was a dark games sight found in the wine tips charl 
[13:28] <charl> Kilos: ah i see, ok
[13:28] <Kilos> cant do wine 1.5 on ubuntu 10.10
[13:28] <charl> age of empires right?
[13:29] <Kilos> yip
[13:29] <Kilos> got game working but oh so slow and no sound
[13:29] <Kilos> but intro sound plays kiff
[13:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[13:30] <smile> Kilos: oh :s
[13:31] <smile> and this, Kilos ? :) http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/system/emulators/wine/wine-1.5.8.tar.bz2
[13:31] <Kilos> check i look
[13:31] <smile> it's about 20 MB
[13:31] <smile> :p
[13:31] <Kilos> dont wanna crash maverick for a game
[13:32] <Kerbero> i would suggest playonlinux
[13:32] <Kerbero> rather than clean wine
[13:32] <Kilos> hmm i have playonlinux methinks
[13:32] <Kilos> aw im on sisters drive
[13:33] <Kilos> sigh
[13:33] <Kilos> where do i find the hardware accelaration so i can disable it
[13:34] <magespawn> Hi Kilos
[13:34] <Kilos> others have aoe2 working on wine1.2 so im the doff one
[13:36] <smile> :|
[13:36]  * Kilos tries killall pulseaudio
[13:37] <Kilos> i havent spent much time on this drive but if i can get AOE2 working sister will go ubuntu
[13:38] <magespawn> What is that Kilos?
[13:39] <Kilos> a game she uses for relaxation after a days work magespawn 
[13:39] <Kilos> age of empires
[13:40] <Kilos> its like a daily ritual with her
[13:40] <Kilos> before and after supper  AOE2
[13:44] <magespawn> That pretty cool.
[13:45] <Kilos> lol yeah
[13:45] <magespawn> I have started the data recovery
[13:45] <Kilos> great that didnt take long to get a drive
[13:46] <magespawn> Estimated time to complete 65hours 46 minutes
[13:46] <magespawn> Friends picked one up in Richards Bay.
[13:46] <Kilos> yeah it takes looooong but wont be that long
[13:46] <Kilos> nice to have friends
[13:46] <Kilos> maybe 50 hours
[13:46] <Kilos> hehe
[13:48] <magespawn> I think the thing that is slowing this down is it is going through USB
[13:48] <Kilos> some usb ports fly
[13:49] <Kilos> i have a usb card in and just the 2 centre of the 4 are fast
[13:49] <Kilos> like 15m/s
[13:49] <Kilos> outside 2 are ks/s
[13:50] <magespawn> This is on my laptop.
[13:50] <Kilos> but data recovery is a serious job
[13:50] <Kilos> oh
[13:50] <Kilos> you will see all the stuff it finds
[13:51] <magespawn> Sometimes finds stuff people do not want found.
[13:51] <Kilos> mine found windows stuff from 2 users before ian got the lappy and each one formatted 
[13:51] <Kilos> yeah finds everything it can
[13:52] <Kilos> testdisk is a great tool if only it would keep file names
[13:52] <magespawn> Yup need to a zero rewrite of the whole disk, and even then data can still be found.
[13:52] <magespawn> How did you update your ibid?
[13:53] <Kilos> i gotta go look for that infor
[13:53] <Kilos> sec
[13:53] <magespawn> Oh mine is on lucid 10.04 I think.
[13:53] <Kilos> thats good
[13:54] <Kilos> thats the one i used on maverick
[13:54] <Kilos> the lucid ppa
[13:59] <Kilos> magespawn, look here https://launchpad.net/~stefanor/+archive/ibid/
[13:59] <magespawn> Ty
[14:00] <Kilos> im not sure thats the one but i gotta change drives to get what i used
[14:01] <Kilos> should be a package like 2 weeks old
[14:01] <Kilos> i change drives quick
[14:12] <magespawn> Hey Kilos I think that was right
[14:12] <magespawn> Busy getting packages
[14:12] <Kilos> gc weather in pretoria
[14:12] <Kilos> oh ok
[14:12] <gc> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[14:13] <Kilos> the lucid one should be the latest
[14:13] <Kilos> maverick wouldnt allow tumbles in
[14:15] <tumbleweed> hi
[14:15] <tumbleweed> that PPA you mentioned was used for preparing some Ibid stuff, but it doesn't have anything current in it
[14:16] <tumbleweed> you probably want https://launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/trunk-daily
[14:16] <tumbleweed> as you can see, it's only building for lucid, natty, and oneiric right now https://launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/trunk-daily/+packages
[14:16] <smile> http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vim_%28teksteditor%29&diff=31805437&oldid=31728607 jaaay :D
[14:16] <tumbleweed> so if you are one of those, you're fine
[14:16] <Kilos> thanks tumbleweed  i been struggling to find where i had the link
[14:17] <Kilos> magespawn, ^^
[14:17] <Kilos> shame, sorry man
[14:17] <tumbleweed> Kilos: there's a link from the home page on LP https://launchpad.net/ibid
[14:18] <magespawn> Cool ty tumbleweed
[14:18] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid link is <reply> https://launchpad.net/ibid
[14:18] <Maaz> Kilos: If you say so
[14:19] <Kilos> thaks tumbleweed thats part of the reason i installed an ibid to keep all the info i keep losing
[14:20] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid daily is <reply> https://launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/trunk-daily
[14:20] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it
[14:20] <tumbleweed> Maaz: 65F in C
[14:20] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Excuse me?
[14:20] <tumbleweed> gaar
[14:20] <tumbleweed> Maaz: convent 65F to C
[14:20] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Huh?
[14:21] <tumbleweed> Maaz: convert 65F to C
[14:21] <Maaz> tumbleweed: tempF(65) = tempC(18.333333)
[14:21] <tumbleweed> Maaz: convert 25C to F
[14:21] <Maaz> tumbleweed: tempC(25) = tempF(77)
[14:26] <Kilos> magespawn, i think this link you can see build progress
[14:26] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/trunk-daily/+packages
[14:26] <Kilos> right tumbleweed ?
[14:31] <magespawn> Getting the updates now.
[14:34] <magespawn> Rebooting .....
[14:38] <magespawn> That should be that.
[14:38] <Kilos> gc weather in pretoria
[14:38] <gc> Kilos: In Pretoria, South Africa at 2:00 PM SAST on July 08, 2012: 22°C; Humidity: 16%; Wind: West at 4 km/h; Conditions: ; Sunrise/set: 6:54 AM SAST/5:30 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 10:23 PM SAST/9:59 AM SAST
[14:38] <Kilos> yoooo hooo
[14:38] <magespawn> Cool.
[14:38] <Kilos> gracias tumbleweed 
[14:38] <magespawn> ty tumbleweed
[14:39] <Kilos> now one of them just gotta do maaz
[14:40] <Kilos> magespawn, whats the recovery say now timewise
[14:40] <Kilos> dont let the lappy battery go flat hey
[14:41] <magespawn> 71 hours
[14:41] <magespawn> No it is on mains
[14:42] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:42] <AlphaGuyy> Molo
[14:42] <Kilos> hi AlphaGuyy 
[14:42] <Kilos> molo?
[14:42] <magespawn> gc coffee on
[14:42]  * gc puts the kettle on
[14:42] <AlphaGuyy> Hows almal today?
[14:42] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[14:43] <AlphaGuyy> Goed dankie met uys
[14:43] <Kilos> lol you like to mix your tales hey?
[14:43] <AlphaGuyy> So I finally got 12.04
[14:44] <Kilos> great
[14:44] <AlphaGuyy> Not that impressed
[14:44] <Kilos> aw
[14:44] <AlphaGuyy> its slow
[14:44] <Kilos> there are fixes 
[14:44] <AlphaGuyy> here we go again - update
[14:45] <Kilos> Maaz, google unity 12.04 is slow
[14:45] <Maaz> Kilos: "unity - Ubuntu 12.04 Responsiveness Extremely Slow on Nvidia ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/126140/ubuntu-12-04-responsiveness-extremely-slow-on-nvidia-8800 :: "unity - Poor System performance on my machine running Ubuntu ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/122055/poor-system-performance-on-my-machine-running-ubuntu-12-04beta-2-updated-to-the :: "Ubuntu 12.04 very slow on samsung netbook - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/quest
[14:45] <Kilos> AlphaGuyy, who are you?
[14:45] <AlphaGuyy> yeah I found that link as well on a google search
[14:46] <AlphaGuyy> I am just a noob
[14:46] <Kilos> first time here AlphaGuyy ?
[14:46] <AlphaGuyy> With limited internet access
[14:46] <gc> Coffee's ready for magespawn!
[14:46] <magespawn> ty gc
[14:46] <AlphaGuyy> No I've been here before.
[14:46] <Kilos> aw i missed coffee
[14:47] <magespawn> I stuck with 11.04
[14:47] <Kilos> well try visit more often 
[14:47] <Kilos> hehe i stuck with 10.10
[14:48] <Kilos> but not good to clean install and no updates available
[14:48] <magespawn> 10.04 on the laptop
[14:49] <magespawn> Maybe get rid of the unity AlphaGuyy 
[14:49] <AlphaGuyy> 9.04 was super fast compared to 12
[14:49] <AlphaGuyy> Its pointless without updates
[14:49] <magespawn> Try one of the other desktops
[14:50] <magespawn> Like xcfe
[14:50] <Kilos> or gnomify it
[14:51] <Kilos> http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-gnome-desktop
[14:51] <AlphaGuyy> U speaking zulu now
[14:51] <AlphaGuyy> Me no. Verstaan
[14:52] <Kilos> you can install gnome and it will look like 9.04
[14:52] <Kilos> hopefully
[14:53] <Kilos> but first if you have time try speed unity up and try get used to it
[14:54] <Kilos> or if you like experimenting try kubuntu
[14:54] <AlphaGuyy> U mean run updates
[14:54] <Kilos> you can always come here to ask for help
[14:54] <AlphaGuyy> How do I turn off unity?
[14:55] <Kilos> after your updates are done now
[14:55] <Kilos> i dont know if you have the option of using classic with 12.04
[14:55] <AlphaGuyy> So rather update see what happens if nothing changes then switch back to gnome.
[14:56] <Kilos> but hang here and someone who has done it will help you
[14:56] <Kilos> when updates done then try those fixes for speed
[14:56] <AlphaGuyy> Ok thanx
[14:57] <Kilos> if you still dont like unity then install the gnome
[14:57] <Kilos> with above link
[14:57] <AlphaGuyy> Anyone connected a blackberry to 12.04 ?
[14:58] <Kilos> nuvolari, ping
[14:59] <Kilos> AlphaGuyy, what do you mean connected, in what way
[14:59] <AlphaGuyy> Used as a dial up
[14:59] <Kilos> data cable bluetooth etc?
[15:00] <Kilos> ah as a modem
[15:00] <AlphaGuyy> Bluetooth 
[15:00] <AlphaGuyy> Yebo
[15:00] <Kilos> voda/
[15:00] <Kilos> ?
[15:00] <superfly> I've never done it with a Blackberry, but I've used a number of other phones, and always found success
[15:01] <superfly> in the newer versions of Kubuntu it shows up in network manager
[15:01] <Kilos> ive only tried 2 nokias and an old alcatel and all worked
[15:02] <Kilos> uh oh
[15:03] <Kilos> reboot to complete upgrade
[15:03] <Kilos> not_found, you here lurking
[15:03] <Kilos> ?
[15:03] <magespawn> 58 hours
[15:04] <Kilos> whew
[15:04] <Kilos> but its a large amount of data to recover magespawn 
[15:05] <Kilos> AlphaGuyy, wb
[15:05] <Kilos> someone got the link to the unity guide?
[15:05] <AlphaGuyy> Blackberry doesn't wanna connect to irc with BIS
[15:06] <AlphaGuyy> Don't paste any links for I can't copy it anyway
[15:06] <Kilos> ok
[15:06] <Kilos> im trying to see if a guy who uses unity is online
[15:06] <AlphaGuyy> If ubuntu is free why can't irc be free
[15:07] <Kilos> it is isnt it?
[15:07] <nuvolari> Kilos: pong!
[15:07] <AlphaGuyy> Yes it is but the app for bb that uses bis isn't
[15:07] <Kilos> nuvolari, weet jy hoe om bb te connect as modem
[15:08] <Kilos> nuvolari, AlphaGuyy het hulp nodig
[15:08] <Kilos> AlphaGuyy, dont you have a bb data cable?
[15:09] <nuvolari> Kilos: oom, my opinie aangaande BB is gooi dit in die keramiek-troon, trek die silwer handvatseltjie, en kry 'n foon :P
[15:09] <Kilos> lol dis te duur om weg te gooi en die man het hulp nodig
[15:09] <nuvolari> ek het ongelukkig nog nie met 'n BB connect om die internet te gebruik nie
[15:10] <Kilos> ek dink hy moet met n data kable try dan hoort network manager dit te sien
[15:10] <nuvolari> if I had one at hand I could try to troubleshoot, but unfortunately I have extremely limited knowledge on BB
[15:11] <nuvolari> Kilos: oh? sonder 'n kabel weet ek nog minder :P
[15:11] <Kilos> ya ek het gesukkel met bluetooth ook
[15:11] <Kilos> jammer om te pla nuvolari 
[15:11] <Kilos> ek gaan bere skape gou
[15:12] <nuvolari> Kilos: yeah probably, but I don't know what restrictions BB placed on their internet usage, as I think that people might abuse that
[15:12] <nuvolari> Kilos: oom pla nie!
[15:12] <magespawn> BIS is only for on the device
[15:12] <nuvolari> Kilos: lol... praat van om vir wolf skaapwagter te maak :D
[15:12]  * nuvolari koes vir oom Kilos se woeste appelswaaiery
[15:13] <magespawn> I think you can choose the desktop on login on 12.04
[15:14] <Kilos> hahaha@nuv
[15:15] <Kilos> tell him how magespawn 
[15:16] <magespawn> Alphaguy when you login there should be a gear like wheel to the left of the password box.
[15:16] <AlphaGuyy> Yep
[15:17] <magespawn> Click that choose the desktop there
[15:17] <AlphaGuyy> Takes bout 20 second to open
[15:17] <magespawn> Wow, should be right away
[15:17] <AlphaGuyy> The dektop?
[15:18] <AlphaGuyy> Personal - hardware - system
[15:18] <magespawn> No 
[15:18] <AlphaGuyy> This is a wubuntu install...
[15:19] <AlphaGuyy> Dual boot on an external drive
[15:19] <magespawn> When you first boot up and login there is a user name with a password dialogue box underneath
[15:20] <AlphaGuyy> Ah ok logging out quick
[15:21] <AlphaGuyy> ok I'm here thers just a ubuntu logo
[15:21] <AlphaGuyy> Ubuntu 2d
[15:21] <magespawn> I think so have not had a look at all the options.
[15:22] <magespawn> Where do you enter yout log in details?
[15:23] <Alpha_Guyy> Where its says username and password
[15:24] <Alpha_Guyy> Create a bbm support group
[15:24] <magespawn> To the left/right of that there is usually something that allows you to choose your desktop.
[15:25] <magespawn> Looks like a gear on mine.
[15:26] <Alpha_Guyy> Wow look at that
[15:26] <superfly> magespawn: I think on the newer Ubuntu's you need to press a key or something
[15:26] <Alpha_Guyy> 246 seconds
[15:26] <superfly> Maaz: google for log into alternate desktop on Ubuntu 12.04
[15:26] <Maaz> superfly: "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin)" http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ :: "PreciseUpgrades - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/ :: "Desktop | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop :: "To Do List After installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS aka Precise Pangolin |" http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts-aka-precise-pangolin/ :: "Ubuntu 
[15:27] <Alpha_Guyy> There's no gear just a logo n a transparent window with password and guest session
[15:27] <superfly> Maaz: google for log into alternate desktop with lightdm
[15:27] <Maaz> superfly: "11.10 - Alternative to LightDM for multi-user machines? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/97961/alternative-to-lightdm-for-multi-user-machines :: "How to change to Gnome Classic Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10 - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDXeOsLQ3k :: "Ubuntu 11.10: Switch between KDM and LightDM Login Screens ..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKkFVwHGY8I :: "LightDM - Debian Wiki" http://wiki.debian.org/Light
[15:32] <magespawn> Strange on both of mine kubuntu and ubuntu you have the option to change the default desktop.
[15:33] <Alpha_Guyy> Do u have a bb magespawn
[15:33] <magespawn> No.
[15:38] <Alpha_Guyy> I need to get internet
[15:38] <Kilos> Alpha_Guyy, dont you have a bb data cable?
[15:39] <Kilos> then ubuntu should see your phone on plugin
[15:55] <Kilos> http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/01/use-your-blackberry-as-modem-with.html
[15:57] <Kilos> wb dLimit 
[15:57] <dLimit> Kilos, hi!
[15:57] <dLimit> How are you?
[15:57] <Kilos> was that you that other nick?
[15:57] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[15:57] <dLimit> Yeah I couldn't remember my nickserv password
[15:57] <Kilos> ya is was you
[15:57] <Kilos> hehe
[15:58] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[15:58] <dLimit> Think I should change my nick anyway
[15:58] <dLimit> dPhile
[15:58] <Kilos> why?
[15:58] <dLimit> or dVour
[15:58] <dLimit> Just getting tired of this one
[15:58] <Kilos> ha ha
[15:58] <dLimit> I think dVour is cool
[15:59] <Kilos> what does that mean
[15:59] <Kilos> oh devour
[15:59] <dLimit> Maaz, google define:devour
[15:59] <Maaz> dLimit: "Devour.com | Awesome Hand-Picked Videos" http://devour.com/ :: "Devour - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ..." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/devour :: "Devour (Video 2005) - IMDb" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406706/ :: "Devour | Define Devour at Dictionary.com" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/devour :: "Devour (devour) on Twitter" http://twitter.com/devour/ :: "Devour" http://www.christopherjona
[16:00] <dLimit> my dictionary says it means to eat or swallow something
[16:00] <Kilos> yeah
[16:01] <Kilos> Maaz, define devour
[16:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Devour \De*vour"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Devoured}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Devouring}.] [F. d['e]vorer, fr. L. devorare; de + vorare to eat greedily, swallow up. See {Voracious}.] 1. To eat up with greediness; to consume ravenously; to feast upon like a wild beast or a glutton; to prey upon. [1913 Webster]  Some evil beast hath devoured him.    --Gen. xxxvii. 20. [1913 Webster]  2. To seize upon and destroy or appropriate greedily, selfishl
[16:01] <dLimit> Ah so thats how its done..
[16:01] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <dLimit> I like all words with the de- prefix
[16:02] <Kilos> ouch demote not good
[16:02] <Kilos> less pay
[16:03] <dLimit> Rather quit 
[16:03] <dLimit> pvt Kilos ?
[16:03] <Kilos> lol
[16:09] <Kilos> whats the name of our facebook guys?
[16:12] <Kilos> nuvolari, ^^
[16:18] <charl> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4581390722
[16:18] <charl> seems to be it according to the website, i don't use facebook
[16:19] <Kilos> i hardly ever do as well charl
[16:19] <Kilos> data hog that thing
[16:20] <charl> it's a privacy suck
[16:21] <Kilos> lol ya that too
[16:22] <magespawn> You can make it more private, but it does require a bit of work. I regard everything online as in the public domain anyway
[16:22] <Kilos> but useful at times
[16:24] <magespawn> Mmm a friend does post funny stuff.
[16:25] <Kilos> some guys use it like twitter
[16:28] <magespawn> My twitter goes through to my facebook status.
[16:40] <charl> magespawn: yeah until next time when they decide to change the privacy settings :)
[16:40] <charl> without letting anyone know, of course
[16:41] <magespawn> Agg ja, then I'll just stop using facebook, not one of those addicted suckers luckily.
[16:42] <magespawn> Most ppl did/do not know about any security settings.
[16:46] <charl> i agree with you on one thing though - what goes online is public property
[16:46] <charl> or public domain i mean
[17:24] <Kilos> yo AlphaGuyy you winning?
[17:29] <AlphaGuyy> Nah dude I'm chill'n need internet
[17:30] <AlphaGuyy> Browsn for apps
[17:30] <Kilos> http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/01/use-your-blackberry-as-modem-with.html
[17:32] <Alpha_Guyy> See what I mean
[17:33] <Kilos> yeah
[17:33] <Kilos> did you get that link
[17:33] <Kilos> bb as modem
[17:34] <Kilos> http://www.blackberryforums.com/linux-users-corner/203266-blackberry-modem-ubuntu-9-04-a.html
[17:34] <Alpha_Guyy> I can't copy links I'm browsn for a tether app so I can atleast get irc stable
[17:36] <Kilos> can bb do jedirc?
[17:38] <Kilos> i dunno how to try help you if you using the fone to get here
[17:41] <Kilos> Alpha_Guyy, you gotta listen nicely now
[17:41] <Kilos> i will browse the link and try explain how to setup the bb as a bluetooth modem
[17:45] <magespawn> You can use the bb as a modem but then it does not use the BIS, is has to have a data package add on.
[17:46] <Kilos> magespawn, can you browse this please i can read the black gray text
[17:46] <Kilos> http://traceback.org/2008/10/24/the-blackberry-curve-as-a-bluetooth-modem-on-ubuntu/
[17:46] <magespawn> Okay
[17:47] <Kilos> also what bb is it Alpha_Guyy 
[17:47] <magespawn> Do you want me to paste it somewhere?
[17:48] <Kilos> i think we gotta tell him here magespawn 
[17:48] <Kilos> dunno how else we gonna try help
[17:48] <magespawn> Okay hold on will past bit by bit.
[17:48] <Kilos> or mail to him maybe???
[17:48] <Kilos> that bb keeps cutting as well
[17:48] <Kilos> yuck fone
[17:49] <magespawn> Poor guy.
[17:49] <Kilos> methinks they are just image fones
[17:50] <Kilos> must be driving him nuts
[17:51] <magespawn> Yup
[17:52] <Kilos> and the monkey didnt make it here with his greeter bot scrip so i have mailed him and hope he takes it to work this week
[17:52] <Kilos> script
[17:54] <Kilos> adding kb to mokey didnt help the monkeys memory
[17:54] <Kilos> monkey
[17:55] <magespawn> Well we can get it to him any which way is the easiest with Alphaguy
[17:56] <Kilos> yeah lets hope. its not lekker to sukkel like this
[17:56] <magespawn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup here is the direct link in case I am not here when he comes back.
[17:57] <Kilos> ok ty thats for the curve hey?
[17:57] <magespawn> Yup 
[17:57] <Kilos> heres the storm
[17:57] <magespawn> But I think it should work with any phone
[17:57] <Kilos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935781
[17:58] <Kilos> hows your recovery doing?
[17:58] <charl> ciao all
[17:58] <charl> enjoy what's left of your weekend
[17:58] <nuvolari> hmm. going to hit the hay early
[17:58] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos, magespawn 
[17:59] <magespawn> Night
[17:59] <Kilos> i dont think bb's very lekker. boet just did an upgrade or something on his and had big probs getting his mails etc after
[17:59] <Kilos> night nuvolari 
[17:59] <Kilos> lekker slaap seun
[17:59] <nuvolari> dankie oom Kilos, dieselfde vir oom :)
[17:59] <Kilos> dankie
[18:06] <Kilos> ty mage i could at least see that page
[18:06] <Kilos> site
[18:16] <magespawn> Kilos I left the recovery running at the shop.
[18:16] <Kilos> lol clever lad
[18:17] <magespawn> In future I am going to use my 'server' to do any revoveries.
[18:18] <Kilos> thats a good idea
[18:18] <Kilos> they take forever recoveries
[18:18] <magespawn> Yup that coupled with a 2tb network storage drive should do it.
[18:19] <magespawn> One day I will be able to get a proper server, and that will speed somethings up.
[18:20] <Kilos> yeah 
[18:20] <Kilos> but worth it for peeps the cant afford to lose certain data
[18:21] <Kilos> just finding what is what in all the numbered files is a massive job
[18:21] <magespawn> Yup. Have to work out a fair rate to charge.
[18:21] <Kilos> but that will be the clients prob
[18:22] <magespawn> True, but I do try to give value for money.
[18:22] <Kilos> but you cant charge 200 an hour for 60 hours
[18:23] <Kilos> unless its a big company with that kinda petty cash
[18:23] <magespawn> No most could not afford that.
[18:23] <magespawn> I could make my yearly target on one job, lol
[18:23] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <Kilos> i would charge the cost of the drive to use for testing and maybe 1500 or 2000
[18:25] <Kilos> but i been outa touch for years
[18:25] <magespawn> If I worked on the above rate it would R12 000.00 for this job.
[18:25] <Kilos> does one charge for your time in front of the pc or the machines recovery time
[18:26] <magespawn> I usually charge for my time.
[18:26] <Kilos> ya but that sounds shockingly high
[18:26] <magespawn> Since the computer is not doing something else.
[18:28] <magespawn> So a typical one I think I could get done in about 3 hours, so about R600.00, but that is pretty much a guess at this point, I have only done two.
[18:28] <Kilos> thats very fair
[18:28] <magespawn> I need more knowledge and experience.
[18:29] <Kilos> maybe a bit too fair at todays prices
[18:30] <magespawn> I am in Hluhluwe. So have to adjust for that.
[18:31] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:31] <Kilos> but your bread costs same as in jhb
[18:33] <magespawn> Some things are cheaper, but house rental here is the same or higher asmthe jhb average.
[18:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:35] <Kilos> maybe as a matter of interest try get quotes or ideas from other recovery companies so you get an idea of what data recovery actually costs 
[18:36] <Kilos> peeps like
[18:36] <Kilos> http://www.datarecovery.co.za/hard-drive-recovery.html
[18:37] <Kilos> http://www.datarecoverysa.co.za/2010-02-Hard-Drive-Recovery-Services.html
[18:37] <Kilos> oh same
[18:37] <Kilos> http://www.lostdata.co.za/
[18:38] <Kilos> and find out what they actually charge for or if its per meg etc
[18:39] <magespawn> Will have a look in the morning when I get into the shop.
[18:40] <Kilos> lol you want me to save the links
[18:42] <Kilos> gc coffee on
[18:42]  * gc washes some mugs
[18:45] <Kilos> gc coffee for all
[18:45] <gc> Come on you bunch of lurkers it's coffee time
[18:46] <gc> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:46] <Kilos> gc ty
[18:46] <gc> It's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos
[18:51] <magespawn> No I have already ty Kilos.
[18:51] <Kilos> ha ha was teasing you man
[18:55] <magespawn> Ha 
[18:55] <magespawn> Busy looking through the Sunday Times job section.
[19:02] <Kilos> i go sleep now. night all . sleep tight. 
[19:15] <magespawn> Good night everybody.
[20:29] <Squirm> made myself a biltong maker :P
[20:29] <Squirm> well, drier