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micahgis there a reason why all the kernel images since precise's release are still on archive.ubuntu.com?13:27
cjwatsonWhy wouldn't they be?13:28
micahghrm, I thought only the latest were on archive.ubuntu.com13:29
micahgand the rest were garbage collected at some point13:30
cjwatsonOh, I see what you mean.  We don't do NBS removal post-release13:30
cjwatsonPartly because we've never got round to it, but also more importantly because it causes trouble for people who download updated installer images from -updates at some point and then never update them13:30
micahgoh, ok, I thought kernels were special in that regard, but maybe I'm just misremembering from 5+ months ago13:30
cjwatsonIt's easier to just keep the lot13:31
* micahg is used to seeing the kernels not in the archive as a sign of removing them from his system13:31
hertoninfinity, I fixed the bot regarding the wrong components it reported in bug 1020100. It now only complains about this: updates-modules-2.6.24-32-lpia-di 2.6.24-32.44 - is in main instead of universe14:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 1020100 in linux "linux: 2.6.24-32.103 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102010014:52
hertoninfinity, it looks the complaint is correct, since updates-modules-2.6.24-32-lpia-di was in universe in the release pocket14:53
scott-workskaet: can you approve this blueprint so that it shows on status.ubuntu.com ?  thank you15:00
jbichahi, I'd appreciate if someone could help libzapojit through the new queue, it's a new dependency for gnome-documents15:08
skaetscott-work, blueprint link?15:15
scott-workskaet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-quantal-flavor-ubuntustudio15:17
scott-worki'm sorry, i fully intended to link that earlier15:17
skaetscott-work,  no worries.   doing.15:17
seb128jbicha, newed15:17
seb128jbicha, would it make sense to have new libs multiarched directly? this one is not15:18
jbichaseb128: thanks, I think something didn't work when I tried multiarching it, I'll give it another look the next time I upload it though15:19
seb128jbicha, yw, ok15:20
skaetscott-work,   ok,  have taken a pass and approved them.  Also set the default milestone to my best guess, and all blueprints without a priority were set to medium.   Adjust as appropriate.  ;)15:37
ScottKskaet: Would it be possible to have the SRU meeting earlier?  That's past EOD for me and I'll be playing father then (two hours would do).15:37
scott-workskaet: thank you15:42
scott-workskaet: this one still looks unapproved: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-quantal-flavor-ubuntustudio15:42
skaetScottK,  challenge is getting it not too early for Australia...    I'm probably going to set up a second one earlier in the day,  since there are a couple in Europe who can't attend that time as well.15:43
skaetscott-work,  the topic was approved,  just the direction needed tweaking, so  wouldn't have been a blocker, but... sorted now.  ;)15:45
skaetnext publishing run should show them.     Check back in about an hour15:45
scott-worksorry, skaet, wasn't meaning to be pedantic, i just wanted to make sure this shows up on status.ubuntu.com under 'flavour' (which it currently does not). thank you :)15:59
skaetscott-work,  no worries.   :)16:00
hertoninfinity, ping16:01
infinityherton: Yo.16:03
infinityherton: I'd argue that that one updates-modules override was wrong in the release pocket, since it was for a kernel in main.  I don't much care that it was originally wrong. ;)16:04
infinityherton: (Thanks for fixing the bot for the rest, btw)16:04
hertoninfinity, about that hardy issue, updates-modules-2.6.24-32-lpia-di in main, pitti once told me that you don't change it, but yes, I can override this in the checker16:04
infinityherton: Well we don't/won't change the release pocket's overrides, but there's no reason to not make the post-release pockets correct.16:05
hertoninfinity, no problem. I think for now I can workaround this, and avoid it complaining about this updates-modules package16:05
infinityherton: Check.  Thanks.16:06
jdstrandcjwatson: hey, I just noticed the queue command hit ubuntu-archive-tools. anything I should be concerned about when using?16:12
cjwatsonjdstrand: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/06/%23ubuntu-release.html#t20:3116:17
cjwatsonoverride support is still in the LP deployment queue, but http://lpqateam.canonical.com/qa-reports/deployment-stable.html looks much healthier now so that should happen tomorrow I think16:17
jdstrandcjwatson: thanks16:20
cjwatsonjdstrand: So I guess the short answer is you may find that some bits don't work yet, but the things that do work should be safe to use16:20
cjwatsonIt is at least useful for info, accept, reject16:20
cjwatsonfetch hit a roadblock and will be a few days16:21
jdstrandcool-- I tried it with info and will be trying accept in a moment16:23
cjwatsonI'm in the process of converting the scripts that we had based around queue16:23
jdstrandI'm particularly looking forward to override and fetch. the former, just cause you know, its handy and the latter cause I have some scripts I can update to not have to ssh to fetch on cocplum and the scp home :)16:24
jdstrand(that is *horrible*)16:24
cjwatsonYeah, sorry for the delay on those, fetch turned out to require learning about more of the LP security infrastructure than I cared to16:24
cjwatsonI was thinking of adding show-urls or something to make it easier to quickly inspect something on chinstrap or whatever16:25
jdstrandoh no need to be sorry. what I have works, it is just icky16:25
jdstrandcjwatson: thank you for all your work on this :)16:25
cjwatsonNo problem, ultimately it makes my own life easier16:25
jdstrandI have a feeling show-urls could be generally useful, but I can't quite put my finger on it16:26
cjwatsonCertainly I don't always want to fetch stuff over my home internet connection, but I expect most of us have better-connected systems we can ssh to16:27
jdstrandpersonally, while I'd prefer not to pull it over my home connection, I do most of the time since I have tooling and a build vm, etc for doing various review tasks16:28
jdstrandhuge stuff, not always16:28
cjwatsonoh, thanks, I'd been meaning to deal with ddtp-translations16:46
cjwatsonthat'll want to go to main sooner or later16:46
cjwatson(one of the custom uploads it builds was already in main de facto anyway)16:47
ScottKcjwatson: multiple accepts are WAY easier with queue than with the +queue page.  Thanks.17:16
cjwatsonOh good.17:18
cjwatsonI was contemplating moving bug closures out to an asynchronous job to improve the timeout situation further.  But (a) I haven't yet learned how to write async jobs so that might take a while and (b) it's possible that cure might be worse than the disease.17:19
LaneyI thought it might get easier to deploy ben if it were in backports. So... there it is17:19
ScottKIt would be nice to be able to accept usuing queue by version number.17:20
ScottKIf I'm doing a (for example) mass accept of a KDE point release, they'll all have the same version number, but there's no common naming scheme.17:20
micahgScottK: that seems very prone to accidents unless there's a prompt for each source17:21
ScottKqueue accept will already just accept everything.17:21
ScottKThis won't make it worse.17:21
cjwatsonThat's arguably a bug, mind :-)17:22
cjwatsonYou can use substrings plus a version number17:22
ScottKSomething like: ./queue --queue=Unapproved --suite=precise-proposed --version=4;4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1" accept17:22
cjwatsonOh, I never added a version match option, true17:23
cjwatsonAh, because there was one in there with a weird syntax17:23
cjwatsonqueue -Q unapproved -s precise-proposed kde/4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.117:23
cjwatsonMight change that syntax, it's anomalous17:23
infinityOr, to not worry about package name at all, just "/1.2.3"17:23
infinityqueue -s precise-proposed -Q unapproved info /3.12.217:23
infinity^-- For a current example.17:23
ScottKSomething like that.17:24
infinityScottK: That works right now was my point.17:24
ScottKAs you say though it's a bit anomalous.17:24
infinityIt's certainly lacking in the intuitive department.17:24
cjwatsonMight be better to put some kind of confirmation prompt in there in some cases.  Not sure.17:24
infinityThough, it's faster to type foo/ver than -p foo -v ver.17:25
cjwatsonFor the first pass I was just trying to emulate the LP script as closely as possible to make sure I'd got it all right.  But its syntax was pretty awful.17:25
ScottKWhatever you end up with, please make it painfully clear in the -h how it works for occasional users.17:32
* jdstrand is done fiddling with NEW for the day17:53
stgraberogra_: any idea what's going on with the index there: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20120709/ ?18:19
stgraberogra_: duplicate headers and wrong oversize check for arm images18:19
stgraber2.2G definitely fits on a single-sided single-layer dvd ;) not that the .img will ever be burnt to a dvd though...18:21
infinitystgraber: I assume the oversized warning is because it's not a "DVD" image, but a "USB" image. Might need some special-casing in there.18:22
infinitystgraber: Similar issues for he duplicate headers, I'd guess.  It's still thinking it's a "different" image type.18:22
skaetballoons,  did you and seb128 figure out a plan for getting the accessibility community to help test the new GTK changes?  or is that still pending?18:28
* skaet going through the pending milestones from last week's meeting ... 18:29
skaetogra_ - were you able to find out where the arm java plans are written down, and who the lead is?18:30
balloonsskaet, no we haven't synced up18:30
stgraberinfinity: hmm, indeed, looks like we override SIZELIMIT to "1024 * 1024 * 1024" if file -b on the .raw returns "x86 boot sector", which is the case for the arm images18:30
skaetballoons,  ack.18:31
infinityskaet: arm java plans, in which regard?18:37
infinitystgraber: s/which is/which isn't/, I assume.18:37
stgraberinfinity: nope :)18:38
stgraber/home/stgraber/Desktop/quantal-dvd-armhf+omap4.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xc, active, starthead 1, startsector 32, 147424 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x83, starthead 0, startsector 147456, 4494080 sectors, code offset 0x018:38
skaetinfinity,  pending action item from weekly release meeting.    Not finding info from the blueprint scans, but may have missed something.18:39
stgraberinfinity: added an exception for Edubuntu (after the bit of code doing the magic for .raw images) so that SIZELIMIT is set to 4.7GB in all cases. Hopefully I wasn't confused with edubuntu vs edubuntu-dvd this time and it'll just work :)18:40
* stgraber will need to cleanup the edubuntu-dvd vs edubuntu mess at some point, using one for the livefs and the other for debian-cd just makes things confusing...18:42
infinitystgraber: There's something horribly weird going on if the arm "dvd" image has an x86 boot sector.  Or if it's being detected as such.18:57
stgraberinfinity: well, it boots fine ;)19:02
* stgraber checks the beginning of that .img for weirdness19:03
Laneyapt-cache policy libtiff5-dev19:03
stgraberquantal-desktop-armhf+omap4.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xc, active, starthead 1, startsector 32, 147424 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x83, starthead 0, startsector 147456, 1136000 sectors, code offset 0x019:05
stgraberinfinity: ^ so not specific to dvd images19:05
infinitystgraber: No, I assumed it wouldn't be, but still odd.19:41
ScottKThe kolab rejects were me.  I discussed it with the uploader.19:44
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LaneyPlease keep an eye on lucid NEW; a few rounds will be required to get ben in.22:25

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