| rick_h_ | hah http://www.flyingrhinocc.com/cycling-news/2012/7/8/chevy-commercial-filmed-at-waterford-hills.html | 00:03 |
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| derekv | do as I say, not as I do... don't try to do 20 burpies with no warmup after drinking like three glasses of water | 00:04 |
| greg-g | burpies? | 00:22 |
| snap-l | Phew. Sent off the Squeezebox article | 00:24 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 00:25 |
| snap-l | Hopefully they'll like it. | 00:25 |
| snap-l | (and hopefully it'll pass editing muster, and not make some editor out there explode) | 00:25 |
| snap-l | It's hard to do layout in plain text | 00:26 |
| snap-l | ie: I sent a bunch of hi-res images along with the article | 00:26 |
| greg-g | snap-l: who's it for? | 00:41 |
| greg-g | I guess I should take photos of both hotels I'm at in DC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Rouge | 00:45 |
| greg-g | erm, wrong channel | 00:45 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Linux Journal | 01:10 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Those statues in the Wikipedia article are creeeeepy | 01:11 |
| derekv | burpies to crossfiters, aka downups and a million other names to anyone who did highschool sports, and pretty much unknown to everyone else. | 01:12 |
| derekv | burpees I guess | 01:14 |
| snap-l | I have NFC what you're talaking about. | 01:14 |
| snap-l | (I was in band) | 01:14 |
| derekv | me too | 01:15 |
| derekv | ive only known about them for a couple years | 01:15 |
| derekv | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps | 01:16 |
| derekv | I may have overdone it tho | 01:17 |
| derekv | so is ruby bullshit or is it just bullshit on freebsd | 01:32 |
| jrwren | derekv: rofl. | 01:47 |
| jrwren | 20 burbies after 3 glasses of water is NUTS. | 01:47 |
| derekv | it was sloshing around | 01:48 |
| derekv | =p | 01:48 |
| jrwren | i'll bet. | 01:48 |
| jrwren | did you puke? | 01:48 |
| derekv | nah | 01:48 |
| jrwren | try 5 glasses next time, see what happens. | 01:48 |
| derekv | 3 pitchers of beer | 01:49 |
| derekv | das boot das burpees | 01:49 |
| derekv | http://beersandburpees.wordpress.com/ lol | 01:51 |
| derekv | jrwren: well anyways its not like I planed it out. | 01:52 |
| derekv | i'd still like to use octopress due to the fact I think it comes styled out of the box and its ready to go for github pages, also looks like it has more users, but blogofiles worked faster ... | 01:58 |
| derekv | still can't get ruby 1.9 to work correctly | 01:58 |
| derekv | all of the static html generating "blog aware" frameworks seem to work with a very similar pattern ... but not identical | 01:59 |
| derekv | ah nice finally got it rolling | 02:13 |
| derekv | they see me rolling, they t-t-trolling, | 02:42 |
| jrwren | tryin' ot catch you coding dirty. | 03:19 |
| snap-l | http://www.earache.com/free/ | 03:33 |
| snap-l | http://askearache.blogspot.com/2012/05/shocking-rise-of-digital-music-database.html | 03:33 |
| snap-l | Extremely interesting take on Digital Music business | 03:34 |
| derekv | http://derekv.github.com/ lame | 04:34 |
| derekv | oh well | 04:34 |
| derekv | i'm not really groking octopress | 04:35 |
| Blazeix | derekv: your resource paths have an extra 'derekv' in them | 04:36 |
| Blazeix | should be "http://derekv.github.com/javascripts/ender.js" for example | 04:37 |
| derekv | Blazeix: yea I think I set it up wrong | 04:37 |
| Blazeix | not "http://derekv.github.com/derekv/javascripts/ender.js | 04:37 |
| Blazeix | " | 04:37 |
| derekv | that makes sense... | 04:37 |
| derekv | there we go | 04:45 |
| derekv | I know what happened. | 04:46 |
| derekv | All I really want, is a repo with markup pages, then something seperate that throws style on them and gives you a "blog" view showing the most recent posts | 04:52 |
| derekv | Oh, you should always waste time when you don't have any. Time is not the boss of you. Rule 408. | 05:05 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 10:15 |
| rick_h_ | party | 10:55 |
| rick_h_ | anyone catch the name of the truck than ran over me? | 11:02 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it was called Vacation Rental | 11:02 |
| snap-l | "Relaxin' your ass ince 1969" | 11:03 |
| rick_h_ | ugh | 11:07 |
| snap-l | I'm happy that my article is done, though | 11:12 |
| snap-l | and bonus: I don't have to ship back the review unit. :) | 11:12 |
| rick_h_ | ooooh | 11:15 |
| rick_h_ | of the touch? | 11:15 |
| snap-l | Yep | 11:17 |
| rick_h_ | niiiiice | 11:17 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no complaints there. :) | 11:17 |
| shakes808 | Morning | 11:48 |
| brousch | Hello everybody! | 11:48 |
| shakes808 | Everyone enjoying the cool down? | 11:49 |
| shakes808 | brousch: You are from the GR area right? How has it been over there? | 11:50 |
| brousch | It was nice yesterday | 11:53 |
| brousch | Some of us got a little cold at the beach | 11:53 |
| shakes808 | lol I hear it. I was out at a beach and did some Kayaking. It was nice, but cool at times. | 11:54 |
| rick_h_ | shush! | 11:54 |
| rick_h_ | until it's < 80 it's still too hot, but thank goodness we're < 90 | 11:54 |
| shakes808 | HA HA | 11:55 |
| shakes808 | I like it in the high 70s - to mid 80s. Breaking 90+ is just too hot. | 11:55 |
| rick_h_ | http://goo.gl/xOEFl | 11:56 |
| brousch | The cold was from the wind churning up cold water from the depths | 11:58 |
| brousch | rick_h_: That makes my head hurt | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: how so? | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | nice cassandra plug in there | 12:52 |
| brousch | The lengths they go to for scale and reliability are beyond my ken | 13:03 |
| brousch | I shouldn't say that. They are beyond my knowledge and my current desire to learn | 13:04 |
| * snap-l is listening to Miles Davis' Tutu. | 14:24 | |
| * shakes808 likes what snap-l is listening too. | 14:31 | |
| shakes808 | Listening to my Frank Sinatra station on Pandora. It is just that kind of day it would seem ;) | 14:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, but later it's Pantera covers. :) | 14:34 |
| shakes808 | :D Nice. | 14:35 |
| shakes808 | Can't believe that it has been 8 years since he was killed. It doesn't even seem that long. | 14:36 |
| shakes808 | What a trajedy | 14:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, definitely one of metal's worst moments | 14:44 |
| snap-l | one crazy fan ruins it for everyone else. | 14:44 |
| shakes808 | and weren't they talking about getting together for one more album or reunion tour | 14:46 |
| shakes808 | I almost had tickets to the show up here and was invited to the OH show but had to work and couldn't get it off. | 14:46 |
| snap-l | I don't think it would have happened. | 14:46 |
| shakes808 | Why not? Grudges to deep with Phil? | 14:47 |
| snap-l | I've read interviews with Phil. Maybe it would have worked it at some point | 14:48 |
| snap-l | but frankly it seems highly unlikely. | 14:48 |
| shakes808 | gotcha | 14:48 |
| snap-l | Then again, I never thought Black Sabbath would get back together with Ozzy (and kick out Geezer Butler) so I know nothing. | 14:49 |
| shakes808 | HA HA | 14:49 |
| snap-l | Not Geezer, sorry | 14:49 |
| shakes808 | come on metalcast, aren't you supposed to have the insight on all things metal? ;) lol | 14:49 |
| snap-l | Bill Ward. | 14:49 |
| snap-l | I spend my time not giving a crap about Ozzy. ;) | 14:50 |
| shakes808 | ha ha | 14:50 |
| shakes808 | too main stream for you? | 14:50 |
| jrwren | but Black Sabbath is good. | 14:50 |
| jrwren | at least the 1969 album is :p | 14:50 |
| snap-l | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_band_members | 14:51 |
| snap-l | shakes808: I find Sharon Osborne both a help and a hinderance for Ozzy. | 14:51 |
| snap-l | Any time the Ozzy camp does something bitchy, I imagine her behind it. | 14:52 |
| shakes808 | snap-l: why is that? | 14:52 |
| snap-l | see: Iron Maiden on Ozzfest | 14:52 |
| snap-l | That said, Ozzy wouldn't be here if it weren't for her. | 14:52 |
| shakes808 | didn't she help him get clean and stay clean? | 14:56 |
| jrwren | what do you all use for backups? | 14:57 |
| jrwren | anyone just using tar? | 14:57 |
| snap-l | jrwren: No, because Tar is bad for big backups | 14:58 |
| snap-l | shakes808: Yes | 14:58 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I use rdiff-backup | 14:59 |
| jrwren | tar is bad why? because you have to seek teh whole file? | 14:59 |
| jrwren | rdiff backup to what? usb disk and then take the usb disk offsite? | 14:59 |
| snap-l | because if you compress it, you have a bad file | 14:59 |
| shakes808 | jrwren: because it is thick and sticky. It helped to kill the dinosaurs ;) lol | 14:59 |
| snap-l | I rdiff-backup to a 2TB drive on my desk | 15:00 |
| snap-l | I don't have offsite backup | 15:00 |
| jrwren | what do you mean if you compress it you have a bad file | 15:00 |
| snap-l | try this: | 15:00 |
| snap-l | tar czvf filename.tar.gz something | 15:00 |
| snap-l | then bring out a hex editor and change one byte | 15:00 |
| snap-l | your file is screwed. | 15:00 |
| jrwren | hrm, ok, that is true. | 15:01 |
| snap-l | uncompressed tar is a little more forgiving, but you'll lose the corrupted file | 15:01 |
| jrwren | i could use a checksumming tool to suppliement. usenet style. par2 my tar.gz and be happy | 15:01 |
| jrwren | that is true of your rsync target too though. | 15:01 |
| snap-l | You could use something like rar | 15:02 |
| jrwren | if a file is corrupt, a file is corrupt | 15:02 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Right, but that's what multi-level backups are for | 15:02 |
| jrwren | right. | 15:02 |
| jrwren | that is what I'm doing with tar. | 15:02 |
| snap-l | at some point the pristine file should be there. | 15:02 |
| jrwren | tar -g | 15:02 |
| jrwren | and --level=1 and 2 | 15:03 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It's your data. Frankly I wouldn't use tar for backups | 15:03 |
| snap-l | It's pretty dumb | 15:03 |
| jrwren | ok | 15:03 |
| brousch | jrwren: I just copy to USB | 15:04 |
| snap-l | and brousch also doesn't like data. ;) | 15:04 |
| brousch | Rotate 14 drives for offsite, gives me 2 weeks backups | 15:04 |
| derekv | soundcloud didn't work out. | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: no, just using rsync for backups here | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | rsync, dropbox, and git repos | 15:04 |
| jrwren | one of the reasons i want it in a single file is it is easier to encrypt and easier to upload to s3 or whereever | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | well and web services. All my pics on picasa now and all my music up to google music now | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, I've thoguht about it, but the cpu/memory overhead of creating a single tar ugh | 15:05 |
| brousch | jrwren: Home or work? | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | and then restoring so many unchanged bits on s3 double ugh | 15:05 |
| snap-l | Does S3 handle encrypted FS? | 15:06 |
| jrwren | cpu memory overhead for a tar is trivial, for compressing it is painful. dedicate a cPU to it ;) | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, two thoughts there...storing so many unchanged bits ugh, storing ugh | 15:06 |
| jrwren | home. | 15:06 |
| brousch | Ah, OK, that is different | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | restoring damn I can't type today | 15:06 |
| brousch | I just use Crashplan, but that requires evil | 15:06 |
| jrwren | what do you mean restoring unchanged bits on s3? | 15:06 |
| jrwren | i'd use incrementals of course. | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | if you re-tar your /home to s3 you'll have a daily file of 400mb, 401mb, etc | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | well, good luck to you :) but no...not using tar for backups | 15:07 |
| snap-l | That's where the levels would come i | 15:07 |
| snap-l | in | 15:07 |
| snap-l | but I have NFC how tar stores those, or how it might overlay those changes. | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | the more complicated the backup gets, the more likely it won't work, you don't keep up with it, or it costs too much. | 15:08 |
| jrwren | what do you mean 4001, 4001 ? | 15:08 |
| snap-l | truth | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: just meant that simplest means no incremental | 15:08 |
| jrwren | oh no, i use -g and --level | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | but if you'll incremental it up so that you're not storing a 400mb file each day then cool I guess | 15:08 |
| snap-l | note the "i guess" | 15:09 |
| jrwren | the level 1 and level 2 is in its own file, its not an append or overlay | 15:09 |
| snap-l | That's code for "I think you're crazy" | 15:09 |
| jrwren | so you have backup0.tar, backup1.tar | 15:09 |
| jrwren | its why i'm asking. | 15:10 |
| jrwren | another reason i like it is that it is easy to use xz compression. i got my system down from 9GB to 1.7GB, which saves $$$ | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | for me, I just have my large files (pita to backup) in cloud services, my important stuff (code) in git, and the rest I rsync to the NAS and if it goes away...that sucks | 15:10 |
| snap-l | If you're going to compress, I'd recommend using bzip2 | 15:10 |
| snap-l | gzip has no error-correction | 15:11 |
| snap-l | bzip2 does | 15:11 |
| snap-l | Not fool-proof, but you won't be stuck with a fully corrupted file | 15:11 |
| snap-l | just use rar and usenet and be done with it. ;) | 15:12 |
| snap-l | "No honey, this usenet subscription is REALLY important. It's my backup plan. alt.binaries.backup" | 15:13 |
| brousch | jrwren: Is there something wrong with Time Machine? | 15:14 |
| snap-l | brousch: Other than being fully Apple, um, yes. | 15:14 |
| * rick_h_ runs away from the troll bait | 15:14 | |
| brousch | What? He uses apple, it comes with Time Machine for backups | 15:17 |
| jrwren | snap-l: i'm using xz. bzip2 is sooo 15 yrs ago :) | 15:17 |
| brousch | I've used it in the past, it seems reasonable | 15:17 |
| jrwren | brousch: my work mac has an at work time machine to external drive. I'm looking at options for backing up my home server | 15:17 |
| jrwren | huge thanks to snap-l for pointing out the lack of integrity. I think I can run parchive on the tar and store those with the backups. | 15:18 |
| brousch | Ah, home server | 15:19 |
| derekv | I need to work on simplicity . | 15:20 |
| greg-g | g'morn | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: ++ | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | I was just having a discussion around simplicity with a co-worker | 15:22 |
| snap-l | jrwren: np, I'be been bit by that in the past. | 15:23 |
| derekv | Simplicity is my goal but I can overengineer in attempt to achive it. | 15:23 |
| derekv | Many programmers don't engineer at all it feels like... and thats really painful. | 15:26 |
| derekv | So I engineer somewhat from the beginning, but then as my understanding increases it sometimes turns out I didn't need to. | 15:27 |
| derekv | Then the coders who think that everything should be in the view controller see my code and don't like it. | 15:30 |
| derekv | so it comes down to. like, OK while I didn't need to do what I did in retrospect, but its better to have some architecture then a big mess | 15:33 |
| derekv | But ideally, there's some right amount of architecture/engineering that makes for simplicity, not adding complexity to the app beyond what tis nessisiary for readability, testability and correctness | 15:35 |
| jrwren | simplicity is difficult | 15:46 |
| derekv | simple != easy | 15:52 |
| derekv | when I engineer well, making changes to the program is like butter. | 15:53 |
| snap-l | yeah and knowing when you've churned enough to make butter is awesome | 15:54 |
| derekv | but yea not everything I plan out ends up making things easier... and while its not really making it harder, its more for the next guy to get his head around | 15:54 |
| snap-l | CODE AS IF THE NEXT GUY TO MAINTAIN YOUR CODE IS A HOMICIDAL MANIAC WHO KNOWS WHERE YOU LIVE. | 15:56 |
| snap-l | http://www.sundoginteractive.com/sunblog/posts/code-as-if-the-next-guy-to-maintain-your-code-is-a-homicidal-maniac-who-kno/ | 15:57 |
| derekv | thats the goal... I'm talking about getting it right | 15:57 |
| derekv | I'm trying to figure out if it'd be a big mistake to error more on the underengineered side | 15:58 |
| derekv | If I'm even able to do that. | 15:59 |
| derekv | I have FUD | 16:01 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: so step 1: deal with the issue at hand. | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | if they're putting crap into their view controller ask them to test it | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | and let's see how long before it's refactored out of the view controller into it's own lib/model/etc :P | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | if they still don't get it, they don't understand code/testability and it's time to find their replacement :) | 16:03 |
| derekv | i'm in a sprint planning ... should I let "implement using code coverage tool" drop off the sprint without brining it up again? | 16:35 |
| derekv | i sortof conceeded that, now I'm thinking its a bad idea | 16:35 |
| snap-l | Need more data | 16:38 |
| rick_h_ | bah, code coverage is easy to add and just having information doesn't change anything | 16:38 |
| rick_h_ | so why not add it in? what's the argument against? | 16:38 |
| derekv | dunno, scrum guy wanted to drop it out of the sprint | 16:38 |
| snap-l | Does he / she know what code coverage gets you? | 16:39 |
| derekv | I don't think so. | 16:40 |
| derekv | actually the problem is larger I think... bbiab | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Might be a convo to have | 16:40 |
| derekv | you know... there's sortof a simplicicty issue with defining stories and subtasks | 16:50 |
| snap-l | Sounds like you're in a project management hell | 16:56 |
| snap-l | Those meetings are always fun. "What are the subtasks? OK, step one: I arrive at work and sit in my chair" | 16:57 |
| snap-l | "TOo granular" | 16:58 |
| snap-l | "OK, I sit at my desk,a nd code falls out" | 16:58 |
| snap-l | "Too broad" | 16:58 |
| snap-l | "Minute 1: I pray for death" | 16:58 |
| snap-l | "Minute 2: I pray for death" | 16:58 |
| snap-l | "Minute 3: I pray for death" | 16:59 |
| jrwren | they are painful, but in a healthy dev org they are very valueable | 16:59 |
| snap-l | Minute 4: I scratch my self. | 16:59 |
| snap-l | "Minute 5: I pray for death" | 16:59 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Those moments are few and far between | 17:00 |
| rick_h_ | yea, user stories, or personas are helpful | 17:03 |
| rick_h_ | really aid in the framing of the discussion when debating features/tasks | 17:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Usually the user story we got on a project was "I'm way too busy for these meetings" | 17:05 |
| snap-l | and then they bitched when they didn't get what they wanted. | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:05 |
| snap-l | only a few of them really did get the purpose of the meetings. | 17:05 |
| snap-l | unfortuately they still didn't get what they wanted. | 17:06 |
| snap-l | but that was a function of the process. | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | someone help me, I'm going to try to package up JS into a python egg... | 18:20 |
| snap-l | Is that legal? | 18:22 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not sure... | 18:23 |
| jrwren | which js? | 18:23 |
| jrwren | oh, your client js. sure, that is fine. | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | no, YUI library | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | into a python package so I can pull it down via python dep tools | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | :/ | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | O..M..G http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/9965/why-is-there-still-case-sensitivity-in-some-programming-languages | 18:26 |
| snap-l | because we're not programming on fucking 3270s any more? | 18:26 |
| snap-l | or Atari 400s | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | case in-sensitivity is something that I can never ever get behind | 18:27 |
| snap-l | I can get behind it. With a baseball bat and bad intentions. | 18:27 |
| snap-l | Seriously, I wonder if people think before they post. | 18:28 |
| snap-l | Also, Gama Bomb has a free album on earache's website | 18:29 |
| snap-l | I am enjoying thoroughly. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | its not that bad. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | its barely noticable. | 18:29 |
| snap-l | http://earache.com/free/ | 18:29 |
| jrwren | if you are actually using the sensitivity you are probably doing it wrong. | 18:30 |
| jrwren | naming 2 funcitons idostuff() and IDoStuff() is bad, mmmkay. | 18:30 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I have some COBOL that has your name on it. | 18:30 |
| jrwren | hahaha. | 18:30 |
| * devinheitmueller just spent the last five minutes looking up the entomology of the word "camel case"... | 18:31 | |
| rick_h_ | find anything interesting? | 18:31 |
| _stink_ | findMyProposalToUseItInAllTypedCommunications? | 18:32 |
| devinheitmueller | It's because the notion of uppercase characters mixed in with lowercase resembles humps on a camel. | 18:32 |
| devinheitmueller | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case#History_of_the_name_.22camel_case.22 | 18:32 |
| snap-l | camelCaseIsForPeopleWithNoImagination | 18:33 |
| snap-l | What is it? itsAVariableThatIsEssentiallyAGodDamnSentence | 18:34 |
| _stink_ | thinkOfAllTheBytesYouAreSaving. | 18:34 |
| rick_h_ | that's what the build step is for | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Oh, that's another fun one | 18:35 |
| rick_h_ | jsmin **/*.js :P | 18:35 |
| snap-l | "Should I use tabs to speed up comilation instead of spaces?" | 18:35 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:35 |
| _stink_ | hahah | 18:35 |
| _stink_ | i love it. | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Should I pogo-stick with a shotgun? | 18:36 |
| devinheitmueller | snap-l: during compilation, the cost of figuring out how much to indent due to the tab outweighs just using spaces. | 18:36 |
| snap-l | If it keeps your ass off the keyboard, please do | 18:36 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: I know. It's the circle-jerk of productivity wasting known as programmers.se.com | 18:37 |
| devinheitmueller | For some reason my coworkers frown on my using the term "circle jerk" to describe certain things. | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | that's never stopped snap-l before | 18:38 |
| devinheitmueller | rick_h_: it doesn't really stop me either. They just frown when I do it. | 18:38 |
| devinheitmueller | I have a "Corporate DNA" ethics directive that says to use "straight talk" | 18:39 |
| devinheitmueller | I'm actually not kidding. It's frightening. | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | well, in today's environment I think it's considered rude to exclude certain groups of people that might find an activity more challenging :P | 18:39 |
| snap-l | straight talk? That is straight talk, yo | 18:40 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: You do not want to know why that statement is wrong. ;) | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: nope...I do not | 18:41 |
| snap-l | In [1]: 776 * .10 | 18:41 |
| snap-l | I <3 floating point conversion. | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/blog/1187-github-android-app-released | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: so not sure if they'll fix it upstream: https://github.com/facebook/tornado/issues/559#issuecomment-6797492 | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: but I'm getting convinced to port this app over from tornado and will keep this bug in mind during porting/rewriting | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | does the CSS fail to load for anyone else here? https://juju.ubuntu.com | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | as in it looks fugly and broken? | 18:57 |
| brousch | Yes | 18:59 |
| rick_h_ | ok thanks for the sanity check | 18:59 |
| brousch | And "This page has insecure content" | 18:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 18:59 |
| brousch | snap-l: I downloaded those free Earache albums too | 19:12 |
| brousch | snap-l: Morbid Angel was on Earache, so I have a softspot for them | 19:13 |
| snap-l | brousch: Let me know how the other two are | 19:13 |
| snap-l | I only downloaded gama bomb | 19:13 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yes, no css here | 19:42 |
| brousch | Interesting https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/598228-4-fine-linux-arm-distros- | 19:47 |
| brousch | rick_h_: What good is a github app that doesn't let you clone/pull? | 19:55 |
| Scott_firebeta | anyone know if Dell has released their Ubuntu ultrabook yet? www.dell.com/ubuntu just lists a crap laptop | 19:56 |
| brousch | Scott_firebeta: I posted a link where you could sign up for their beta last week | 19:57 |
| nullspace | just get a thinkpad | 20:08 |
| jrwren | i'd like to try a samsung series 9 with ubuntu. | 20:08 |
| nullspace | jrwren: I thought you had gone to the apple side? | 20:09 |
| jrwren | i have, but that doesn't mean that I'd switch if there were something better. | 20:09 |
| brousch | Apple has pattented better. No one else can make something better without getting sued. | 20:10 |
| Scott_firebeta | I'm trying to decide between an asus zenbook and a macbook air, and airplay might be the deciding feature | 20:12 |
| jrwren | macbook air is excellent. | 20:14 |
| Scott_firebeta | if I don't like OS X I can always install a linux distro (prices are similar) | 20:14 |
| jrwren | i have loved both of my macbook air | 20:14 |
| jrwren | i thought linux does not run well on a macbook air | 20:14 |
| Scott_firebeta | only feature that I can find on the zenbook that the macbook air doesn't have is a 1080p screen | 20:15 |
| jrwren | you know Lion doesn't have any airplay features, you have to wait for mountain lion, right. | 20:15 |
| jrwren | zenbook has a 1080p display? that is excellent. | 20:15 |
| Scott_firebeta | free upgrade to mountain lion if you by a macbook air now | 20:15 |
| jrwren | i highly recommend the macbook air :) | 20:15 |
| jrwren | wow, $1099 for 1080p 13" zenbook... I'd definitely like to try ubuntu on that as my primary for a while | 20:16 |
| Scott_firebeta | macbook air (mid 2011) is pretty compatible with 12.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2 , no article on the mid 2012 model yet | 20:17 |
| brousch | Scott_firebeta: I have not been able to get Linux working 100% on Apple (MBP). In particular I have trouble with external monitors, and the touchpad doesn't work as well | 20:17 |
| brousch | Doesn't work as well as in OSX, I should clarify | 20:18 |
| jrwren | mid2012 model is pretty much the same as 2011, just ivybridge instead of sandy | 20:18 |
| snap-l | I <3 this album: http://www.last.fm/music/Suicidal+Tendencies/The+Art+Of+Rebellion | 20:58 |
| snap-l | (yes, I know, it's a day ending in Y) | 21:00 |
| brousch | Hm https://sites.google.com/site/thisisrebelcountry/chapter-2-the-gub/the-interurban-era | 22:39 |
| gamerchick02 | brousch, that looks interesting. | 22:39 |
| brousch | bah, that's not what i meant to post | 22:39 |
| brousch | http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/07/09/212217/general-motors-to-slash-outsourcing-in-it-overhaul?utm_source=feedburnerGoogle+Reader&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=Google+Reader | 22:40 |
| gamerchick02 | well, it was a happy mistake because it looks interesting. | 22:40 |
| gamerchick02 | wow. that's great news | 22:40 |
| gamerchick02 | i wish Chrysler would do the same. | 22:43 |
| brousch | Heh, I forgot which company you geekers work for | 22:47 |
| gamerchick02 | Chrysler here. well, RGBSI, but i'm AT Chrysler. | 22:50 |
| jrwren | wow, that is risky and excellent by GM. | 22:58 |
| jrwren | it could be really great for them, it could be a disaster | 22:58 |
| gamerchick02 | i hope it's really great for them and improves their IT support. | 23:01 |
| gamerchick02 | maybe the other major automakers will follow by example | 23:01 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_ did you have any progress on that ivy bridge freeze bug? | 23:17 |
| gamerchick02 | my computer is running smooth as butter today | 23:17 |
| rick_h_ | awesome http://theoatmeal.com/blog/charity_money | 23:34 |
| rick_h_ | gamerchick02: no, I was away all weekend away from the interwebs and catching up still | 23:34 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_, i saw the oatmeal thing; that's so awesome | 23:35 |
| gamerchick02 | and thanks for replying. | 23:35 |
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