=== Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:27] morning superfly and others [06:28] morning Kilos [07:24] good morning [07:29] hiya inetpro [08:21] good morning [08:22] hi charl [08:24] hi Kilos [08:24] how are you this morning [08:24] no bad ty and you? [08:25] just come back from neighbouring plot , took sheep there to graze [08:30] nice [08:30] can't complain [08:33] tough being a maplotter [08:35] lol, maplotter, that is a word i have not heard in a long time [08:35] lol [08:36] used to kinda despise them long ago or look down on them rather [08:36] old saying, dont knock it till youve tried it [08:39] hi Banlam bakuman bmg505 [08:39] hi confluency drubin drussell [08:40] Maaz, wake them [08:40] HEY You bunch of lurkers. Wake up and take part in the daily chats [08:40] Maaz: coffee on [08:40] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:41] Maaz, coffee please [08:41] Kilos: Done [08:41] no, it's done when the coffee is ready Maaz :P [08:41] bot cutting corners... :P [08:41] charl: Excuse me? [08:41] hi oom Kilos [08:41] hehe [08:42] * Kilos thinks everyone should at least say morning every single day [08:42] +1 [08:43] busy isnt a good enough excuse [08:43] it's these antisocial types here... [08:43] the fly is super busy but still finds time to greet [08:43] same here, i talk to you people while i am working [08:44] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:44] Maaz, baie dankie [08:44] Plesier Kilos [08:44] Maaz: danke schon [08:44] charl: Sorry... [08:45] bah bot can't even speak german [08:45] ja man [08:45] sat danke [08:45] say [08:45] Maaz: danke [08:45] Bitteschön [08:45] could be because i didn't have an umlaut on the o [08:45] i cut corners on stuff like that on irc [08:45] hehe [08:46] Maaz: botsnack [08:46] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [08:59] good morning good people! [08:59] hi sflr [09:01] morning [09:01] hi Squirm [09:10] hiya sflr Squirm [09:22] We’ve noticed that our bots very quickly become integral to channel communities [09:22] so true [09:28] hello everyone [09:28] hehe hello superfly [09:29] such a gentleman our fly [09:33] charl: danke schon is not the correct way to use it, it's dankeschön [09:37] inetpro: actually you're completely right http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dankesch%C3%B6n [09:38] charl, the pro is our resident german [09:38] hes not often wrong and when he is he is still right [09:39] oh wait a second [09:39] http://de.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070113093348AAqzGkm [09:39] and: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/danke_sch%C3%B6n [09:40] there is a subtle difference :) [09:40] lol Kilos [09:40] nice i didn't know inetpro was german, which part of germany are you from (if you don't mind me asking)? [09:41] the part in northern natal [09:41] um [09:41] whew i go bang head against the wall [09:42] if my understanding is correct, and i am to be corrected, danke schon in dutch translates to "dank je wel" while dankeschon (one word) would translate to "bedankt" [09:42] :-) [09:42] but my german is not good so i could be wrong [09:42] paul piet? [09:42] o [09:43] as jy dit so stel verstaan ek dit ook @ ChanServ [09:43] *charl [09:43] lol [09:43] yo Kerbero [09:43] * inetpro is a german speaking South African [09:44] charl: and I guess I speak more like Afrideutsch then the real thing, so please don't blame me if I am wrong [09:44] s/then/than/ [09:46] inetpro: no i know the story, ask any dutch person that lived in south africa [09:46] it really screws with you [09:46] the other day i said "schielijk" instead of "plotseling" and my colleague here laughed at me [09:46] "you speak 17-century dutch you noob" [09:47] it is valid dutch though [09:48] hahaha [09:48] dat vind ik leuk [09:51] charl: haha, my ancestors have also had a lot of time to meddle with the local german lingo [09:51] * inetpro is a sixth generation german speaking RSA citizen [09:52] sheesh ok after six generations you can be forgiven :) [09:52] lol [09:52] and I must be honest that I feel bad about struggling to write the language properly [09:53] * inetpro should go back to school and learn it again [09:53] not at all, let me tell you something [09:53] i grew up in south africa but i was raised by my mother and grandmother [09:54] i learned dutch from them speaking it in the house, but they speak 60' [09:54] 60's dutch [09:54] so the other day i said "een persoon heeft mij opgeschakeld" meaning "a person called me up" [09:54] my colleague here said "you noob, you say bel, not schakel" [09:54] only in a couple of years, the language has already changed [09:55] yikes [09:55] funny enough, south africans also use "bel", not "schakel" [09:55] yet i talk about "schakel" instead out of habit [09:55] sounds like they want to become more like Afrikaans [09:56] i don't think the two languages really have much cross-polination, probably due to the physical separation of the two countries [09:57] it's very interesting to me though to see the same slang developing in different places [09:57] for example, in south africa i think you can say "ek check 'n meisie uit" [09:57] that's from the english expression of checking a girl out obviously [09:58] hehe [09:58] in germany, the young people could say "checken das aus" or in dutch "check dat even uit" [09:58] same slang, different continents [09:58] obviously that comes from english, that is not original german/dutch/afrikaans [09:58] heh, I'll check her out [09:59] still looks funny when you write it [09:59] the dutch and the germans have a habit of saying "alstublieft" or "bitteschon" if they for example give you coffee [10:00] in south africa i have never heard a person say "alseblief" or however it goes when they hand you something [10:00] a bit more like the english do it [10:01] hmm... [10:01] asseblief [10:01] ah yes, sorry [10:01] but asseblief and bitteschön is not the same thing [10:01] that seems to be like it yes [10:01] asseblief = bitte [10:02] yeah ok but schon is hard to translate, like saying "sehr schon" [10:02] in dutch you would say "zeer leuk" or so [10:03] bitteschön is like saying, you're welcome [10:03] yeah exactly [10:03] alsjeblieft is similar [10:04] anyway, sounds like we're in a lingo channel now :-) [10:04] if you say you want something person 1 "wil je koffie hebben?", person 2 "ja graag!", person 1 "alsjeblieft", person 2 "dank je wel" [10:04] a different "handshake" so to speak [10:04] yeah sorry we're going seriously off topic [10:04] even Kilos has become quiet [10:05] :D [10:05] and he doesn't even have work to do [10:05] i think when there is no one needing help then chats are fine because it helps us all get to know each other better [10:05] inetpro, lies [10:05] lol [10:05] sorry Kilos [10:06] * Kilos chief cook , bottle washer and maplotter [10:06] hehe [10:07] * Kilos only knows the pro face to face, evryone else is a nick on irc just about [10:10] dunno what the owners opinions of the channel are [10:10] owners of the channels opinions [10:10] hmm who are the "owners" anyway [10:12] must be the old hands [10:13] hiya Hodgestar [10:14] Maaz, seen highvoltage [10:14] Kilos: highvoltage was last seen 18 days, 15 hours, 8 minutes and 43 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-06-20 21:05:37 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-06-25 20:11:43 SAST [10:14] hmm what a crime [10:17] inetpro, who are the owners of this channel [10:17] please [10:18] charl: info #ubuntu-za [10:18] oops [10:18] ChanServ: info #ubuntu-za [10:19] 09/07 12:18:27 [ChanServ] Founder : highvoltage [10:19] 09/07 12:18:27 [ChanServ] Registered : Jul 22 11:27:44 2005 (6 years, 50 weeks, 3 days, 22:50:42 ago) [10:19] Kilos: ^^ [10:20] dankie boetie [10:21] maybe we chased him with all our unrelated chats [10:21] * Kilos cries [10:23] Kilos: no AFAIK he's just trying to focus on less stuffs these days [10:23] helloooo maiatoday [10:23] you well girl? [10:24] ah then maybe he will still visit periodically [10:29] hehe new toy [10:30] new toy? [10:32] charl your nicks arent registered [10:32] bad boy [10:34] hi sorry back [10:34] was afk for a while [10:34] Kilos: yup that is the way i prefer to keep it [10:34] maybe i'm old-school efnet user but i don't believe in someone "owning" a nick [10:36] bbl [10:36] ya but on here you will come on and find someone else has taken the nick and you cant use it anymore [10:37] and it means you could be impersonated. people back in the day didn't do such a thing [10:37] maybe they did, I wasn't here back in the day [10:37] lol [10:41] more bad peeps now than back in the day [10:55] Kilos: that's true but if they take my nick i just use a different one [10:55] Squirm: online anyone can impersonate anyone in any case [10:55] currently i am impersonating myself [10:56] at the end of the day, all you're talking to is a nick, nothing more, nothing less [10:56] no man my nick is my nick [10:56] try impersonate me\ === charl is now known as Kilos_ [10:59] hmmm, for some reason i don't know if this is going to work [10:59] impersonating you would be a hard one [11:00] if you were less active here i could perhaps have gotten away with it [11:00] we all know me here and thats why you register your nick and its tails [11:00] lol [11:00] people know you too well for anyone to be able to impersonate you anyway [11:00] irrespective of your nick [11:01] but if someone comes in here with this nick with the extra underscore at the end and acts exactly like you, i don't think there will be much doubt [11:01] they could use the old "my account got hacked" or "i lost my password" ploy [11:01] ya maybe but will have to be while im alseep [11:02] true and then people would be "why are you awake" [11:02] at this funny hour [11:02] i dunno if there is a lost password recovery sevice with irc without going to them and asking online [11:02] ha ha ha [11:03] however, say someone would have hacked your account and came in here using "Kilos" [11:03] if the person acts strange we would know it's not you in any case === Banlam is now known as Kilos__ [11:03] * Kilos__ yawns [11:03] so what your nick is is kind-of irrelevant [11:03] haha [11:04] wait me try something [11:04] i'm the real kilos [11:04] just btw [11:04] some other guy registered kilos with nickserv and now i can't login :/ [11:04] Kilos__: what you saying, i'm the real kilos, everyone knows that! [11:04] i will sort this later then you try again [11:05] Kilos__: you don't even act like the real kilos! [11:05] kilos_ atleast we'll both agree Kilos isn't the real kilos [11:05] yup totally agreed [11:05] hehe [11:05] rofl === Kilos_ is now known as charl [11:05] you clones go of a while [11:05] look now i'm impersonating charl again lol [11:06] i'm actually kilos impersonating charl [11:06] lol [11:06] hehehe === Kilos is now known as Kilos_ === charl is now known as Kilos === Kilos__ is now known as Banlam [11:07] now you can ghost me [11:09] sjoe === Kilos_ is now known as Kilos [11:10] :) [11:11] nickserv kill them clones [11:11] lol [11:11] at their roots [11:27] sflr, wb [11:28] hey Kilos! [11:31] hi sflr [11:32] howzit charl [11:45] hi Kilos [11:45] I'm ok, flu and sore shoulder but ok [11:46] eish [11:55] eish! [11:55] * inetpro getting confused with all those clones of Kilos [11:55] lol [11:55] sjoe hulle het my mal gemaak [11:55] maar net twee van die klein stronde [12:00] what clones? [12:01] lol you missed it sflr there was kilos_ kilos__ etc [12:01] all claiming to be Kilos [12:02] hehe. ok i didnt get to ___ yet. lol [12:02] lol [12:02] i thought you are referring to some Transformers bounce-off from last night :) [12:02] aw i didnt watch that [12:03] * Kilos needs to strategise revenge [12:03] strategize [12:03] sjoe [12:04] Maaz, spell strategise [12:04] Kilos: Suggestions: Strategist or strategist [12:04] grrr [12:06] strategically plan [12:07] lol === Kilos is now known as charl [13:02] hehe === charl is now known as Kilos [13:04] he will come back as charlvn === Kilos- is now known as charl [13:09] yo Password [13:27] hi kilos [14:56] hi Tonberry you been scarse hey [14:56] Maaz, spell scarce [14:56] Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right [14:56] I'm home with bad internet [14:56] Maaz, spell scarse [14:56] Kilos: Suggestions: Carse, Sarse, Scare, Sparse, Scorse, Scarce, scare, sparse or scarce [14:57] and a laptop not set on auto join [14:57] ah thats no good [14:57] ive have bad internet just about from the start. [14:58] complaining helps now and again for a while [16:36] Evening all [16:36] hi there magespawn [16:37] did ya win with recovery [16:40] hi AlphaGuyy [16:40] Evenings [16:40] did you win with bb bluetooth [16:40] na not worth the trouble [16:40] we found some links and can mail you or give step for step here [16:41] Plugd in an n73 n bobs ur uncle [16:41] lol [16:42] whats n73 nokia? [16:42] Thanx mail it to alphaguyy@gmail.com [16:42] Yes nokia ol faithful [16:42] ok will do, just gotta go find them again [16:42] Picked it up immediately [16:43] Now to just to get a nice cheap bundle for all this add on updates [16:44] Isn't there a site where I can download plugins directly n then save n install [16:44] plugins for? [16:44] without havn to use software manager [16:45] thats not very safe [16:45] Extra add on's mp3 avi dvd dvix [16:45] always try use what already in the repos [16:45] Ah ok [16:45] have you used synaptic package manager [16:46] Back in the day yes with 9.04 [16:46] has 12.04 still got it? [16:46] must be [16:47] I checked out the update software thing on 12 today n checked howmuch data I'm gona need more o less [16:47] I cudnt find that [16:47] update manager? [16:47] do you have system at the top somewhere [16:47] yo smile [16:48] 12.04 not kind the movie playr n jukbox stuf just freezes n then sends error apport'n all the time [16:48] hi Kilos :D [16:48] have you done the full update after your install [16:49] must be coupla 100 megs [16:49] wb AlphaGuyy [16:49] 12 freeze n lag alooot [16:49] have you done the full update after your install [16:49] must be coupla 100 megs [16:50] No dude I had a 10mb bundle I got with loyalty points [16:50] Just to check what's available n it a lot of stuf [16:51] oh then thats why i think. most the ubuntu releases i have tried dont work properly with everything till updated completely [16:51] Yeah but its crap [16:52] What if I wana show a demo to some ppl n brag about unbuntu [16:52] do you have a friend with an uncapped connection somewhere [16:52] Hey Kilos, got family side tracked [16:52] np magespawn [16:52] Like have a seat while I update everything [16:52] I sort of won [16:52] lol ya [16:52] it runs on its own [16:52] yay thats good magespawn [16:53] why sort of/ [16:53] Yeah I'm planing to go steeel sum uncapped data the wknd [16:53] ? [16:53] right then you get full update and everything should work [16:53] Hope so [16:53] Only got some of the info. [16:54] So when will there evr be a cd that u pop in n everything wrks from the minute u run it [16:54] any niggles after updating someone here will be able to sort for you im sure [16:54] Will try other tools like ddrescue [16:54] magespawn, scalpel photorec [16:55] Yup those too [16:55] AlphaGuyy, there is too much to put on a cd but if you near one of the varsities that have a freedom toater you can get dvds [16:56] What's the best live cd ? From the past [16:56] they all need the first update [16:56] I still use the 9.04 for recoveries [16:57] what do you want to do with a live cd AlphaGuyy [16:57] get 12 is like wakin up in a diffrent time zone [16:58] yeah its very different [16:59] i use 10.10 still. mainky also because of data shortages as well [17:01] does 12 hav fancy graphics [17:01] Must have everything your pc can handle [17:01] Like I had fancy graphix goin with 9 where u can 3d desktop [17:02] yes 12.04 must be even better [17:02] N have flames trailn with the cursor [17:02] lol [17:02] thats all in settings somewhere [17:03] Its not [17:03] I supose got get drivrs for that too [17:03] must be somewhere [17:03] once updated it will go better [17:03] you got a basic install there [17:04] Its unfair that u havta hav uncapd internet for all that what about ppl who can't afford [17:04] they make other plans [17:04] like get a buddy to do aptoncd for them [17:05] or copy packages to a usb stick etc [17:05] Well I just got ubuntu-za [17:06] How do u save packages then? [17:07] where are you [17:07] Gugulethu [17:07] where is that? [17:08] i sent the mail with one bb bluetooth method [17:08] Eish how u don't know that [17:08] gotta go eat quick [17:09] im in pta on a plot and 61 years old [17:09] Thanx I got it . But I only got 12.04 [17:10] i dont know if the 11.10 way will work [17:10] try it so long [17:10] For sure thanx [17:17] good evening! [17:18] Brb switching to laptop [17:19] hiya charlvn [17:19] what you did now [17:19] hey Kilos [17:19] im just eating quick then we can chuckle some [17:19] ok? [17:21] enjoy! [17:21] just had some dinner myself [17:21] you can have your nick back [17:21] lol nice troll [17:21] no thanks i [17:21] i'll just use this one [17:22] register one of them or both [17:22] nah i'll just keep changing it when i get trolled [17:22] or i will steal both [17:22] ok i'll change it again, 1 sec === charlvn is now known as cvn [17:22] now you can have charlvn too :) [17:22] ha ha ha [17:23] no man go back charl [17:23] :P [17:23] i like this one, nice and short [17:23] i was just getting revenge for the kilos_ bit [17:23] :D [17:23] neh i spent too much time on 4chan, i am practically troll-proof [17:24] lol [17:24] besides, i practically wrote the book on trolling, just ask superfly :) [17:25] i actually dont understand what trolling is [17:25] ticking people off on the internet for kicks [17:26] hmmm that's one type of troll yes [17:26] but those trolls are typically quite obvious to identify [17:27] for all i know Kilos could have been trolling us by claiming not to know what trolling is [17:30] hahaha Tonberry you know im too doff for that [17:30] howdy back again [17:30] wb magespawn [17:31] you guys that have tried unity must help that alpha dude [17:31] thats what the trolls want me to think... [17:31] http://i.imgur.com/z93el.jpg [17:32] wb magespawn [17:32] ty cvn [17:33] cvn, you must troll sites like spinchat if you still wanna troll [17:34] Kilos did you save the link I posted last night about the bb? [17:35] ya i copy pasted the info in a mail to him [17:35] okay cool ty [17:35] but it wasnt unity was 11.10 [17:36] he hasnt done first update and wants everything to work [17:36] ubuntu on a 10m data bundle is no good [17:36] Kilos: nah i only troll quality people :) [17:36] unity is just the desktop [17:36] hahaha you so cheeky charly [17:37] let me put it this way, if i troll you, you should take it as a compliment :) [17:37] i still do not understand why he cannot just choose on login [17:37] hehe [17:37] lol cvn [17:37] (and yes, that was a troll) [17:38] cvn, what was a troll? [17:38] that [17:38] what i said just now about if i troll you you can take it as a compliment :) [17:39] is that a troll? [17:39] it's a bit like a recursive troll [17:39] yup [17:39] trolling about trolling [17:39] using trolling to troll people [17:39] this is awesome [17:39] whew we speak different languages [17:39] basicly telling the rest of us how lucky cvn is here [17:40] http://i.imgur.com/tojku.jpg [17:40] cvn you speak in pictures [17:41] cvn where you from? [17:41] it's a 4chan thing :P [17:42] Kilos I think AlphaGuy is in the Cape, so he might be able to hook up with those ppl at an ubuntu hour or something [17:43] he said gugletu [17:43] that jhb area isnt it [17:44] not sure actually [17:45] Maaz, google where is guguletho [17:45] Kilos: "Large scale pressure management implementation in the City of - Miya" http://www.miya-water.com/user_files/Data_and_Research/miyas_experts_articles/3_DMAs_Pressure_management/05_Large%20scale%20pressure%20management%20implementation%20in%20the%20City%20of%20Cape%20Town.pdf :: "Interactive Cape Town Map (s), Street Map of the City of Cape Town." http://www.south-africa-tours-and-travel.com/cape-town-map.html :: "Nokia gives back foll [17:46] you right magespawn [17:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gugulethu [17:46] hah [18:01] brb going to try a new program [18:01] ok [18:02] cvn boasts he wrote the book on trolling, but he hasn't truly trolled [18:02] haha have you also trolled superfly ? [18:03] i thought trolls were monsters [18:03] Kilos: not specifically, I take no delight in taking people for a ride when they don't know it. I have much better ways of doing things. [18:05] superfly: ah, you just fell for my troll! i trolled that i'm trolling while i wasn't actually trolling but then i was indeed trolling and it was successful [18:05] cvn: say no more, we all know you're confused. [18:05] Kilos: Gugulethu or Guguletu is a township 15 km from Cape Town, South Africa. [18:05] ty inetpro [18:06] we need to discuss things guys [18:07] first maybe we need to start an agenda going for mondays meeting [18:07] secondly we need to decide what is not appropriate to discuss here [18:07] maybe another agenda item/ i dunno [18:08] inetpro, superfly ^^ [18:08] you the ballies here [18:08] * inetpro don't make the rules [18:08] who does? [18:09] kilos make the rules [18:09] if only ubuntu related topics are discussed it will be a cold heartless channel methinks [18:09] inpho [18:09] lol [18:09] whew cant even get that right [18:10] in my personal honest opinion [18:10] quite honestly, there isn't that much relevant discussion that goes on here, meaning it would become a somewhat dead channel if that becomes the rule [18:11] that? [18:11] the dutch channel has a separate channel for offtopic discussions but that's because there are a reasonable amount of on-topic discussions happening in the main channel [18:11] i understand its a bind to scroll back to look for where your nick was used [18:12] i think if all agree that we accept this as a chat channel for linux/ubuntu users but when ubuntu related topic comes up then chtting stops [18:12] how do you guys feel [18:13] maybe we must mail highvoltage and hear what he wants hey? [18:14] dont all speak at once [18:14] yeah that's the same rule as in the dutch channel [18:14] i think it's a good one [18:15] methinks we need to get a vote on this from the old hands [18:15] i dont want anyone here to not be happy [18:17] imo this must be a family channel. community/family not uncles aunts etc [18:23] yeah good idea [18:23] wb AlphaGuyy [18:24] Ahoy [18:24] I just came across a link about generatin a srcipt thru synaptic mangr [18:26] is this possible with 12.04 [18:27] bye Kilos & others :) [18:28] howdy all [18:28] night smile [18:28] hey mage [18:28] night smile [18:28] grr [18:28] wb magespawn [18:28] thanks magespawn & Kilos :) [18:28] grrr? [18:28] wassup magespawn [18:28] now using chatzilla inside seamonkey [18:29] magespawn, what does this mean [18:29] I just came across a link about generatin a srcipt thru synaptic mangr [18:30] you missed Alpha_Guyy s question [18:30] seamonkey is an all in one suite from Mozilla, the same guys who do Firefox [18:31] Chatzilla is the IRC client from them that is part of Seamonkey [18:31] whyyou going that route magespawn [18:31] thats what smile uses [18:31] been using seamonkey for mail and browsing [18:31] this is on windows [18:31] ah [18:32] Find a stable free irc client for bb. So I don't keep dc'ing [18:32] xchat works well on windows [18:32] Alpha_Guyy, try jedirc [18:32] mm it does, been using that until now, thought I would give this a try [18:32] ill try find a link for you [18:33] what was the question? [18:33] Preferably one that uses BIS [18:33] http://en.softonic.com/s/jed-irc:phones [18:33] need an irc client for bb [18:34] ahh right so that was the question [18:34] jedirc works [18:34] I'm usin jmirc its similar but keep dc'ing [18:35] arent there settings in the bb cutting you off [18:35] maybe they restrict chat through bis [18:35] they do that in the states [18:36] what is BIS [18:37] They stupid that's why it doesn't even use alota data [18:37] ~ [18:37] ~ [18:37] Only mirc app on app world cost six rand [18:38] gaar [18:38] wassup tumbleweed [18:38] Blackberry internet service [18:38] ouch [18:39] Alpha_Guyy, swop that bb with someone with a good nokia that wants a good image fone [18:40] I have a nokia I'm buyn data so I can atleast have irc access [18:40] I use the bb for unlimted browsin n email [18:40] ah [18:41] Will use irc on nokia instead its sucks on this bb [18:42] jedirc works well on my nokia [18:42] Yeah jmirc too [18:42] stays online till the battery goes flat [18:43] N uses micro data [18:43] Just thought it would be less of hassle been stuck with 2 fones I look someone out the matrix [18:43] lol [18:44] 2 fones a laptop two pcs extrnal drv hangn on the side witha tv in the middle [18:45] Just no broadband [18:46] now you just need a good internet connection [18:46] That would be a dream come true [18:46] but dont think you will use micro data on a pc [18:47] Definately not I'd be on youtube discovrn everythn new about ubuntu [18:47] then you need to go 8ta contract [18:47] irc does not use that much, use opera if you want to do something else than vanilla ubuntu [18:48] i have a link for you Alpha_Guyy [18:48] irc is about 2m a day [18:48] No contract unemployed [18:48] Maaz, unity guide [18:48] http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts [18:48] then forget youtube [18:49] Alpha_Guyy: you using ubuntu on the pc? [18:49] Alpha_Guyy, ^^ link to unity [18:49] Kilos: at debconf [18:49] the network isn't quite as relialbe as I'd like... [18:49] I have forgot youtube that's when I found u guys irc server n punched it into jmirc [18:50] ah ty tumbleweed thought you were cross with us [18:50] naah :) [18:50] hehe [18:50] I was trying to type ~. to my ssh connection [18:50] Email me that link plz [18:50] and screwing it p [18:50] ouch [18:54] Tnx [18:54] yw [18:55] Alpha_Guyy, just dont forget you need to do updates on any ubuntu to get everything working well [18:56] and expect a couple of hundred megs at least for the first update upgrade [18:58] I'm lookn to do script with 12 [18:58] so I can maybe download from library [18:58] i dunno what you mean by that im a noob [18:59] what library [18:59] Alpha_Guyy: maybe join the mailing list then you will get news about Ubuntu Hours etc and come to the monthly meetings here for more info [19:01] magespawn, what does that doing script mean [19:02] not sure what he means, but scripts are short programs/file that automate certain process or actions [19:03] at least thats what i understand as scripts [19:06] i dunno anyway he can save data by doing any script writing [19:06] unless he can rewrite the whole ubuntu [19:08] do za libraries allow an hour or 2 free internet connection [19:08] that another choice [19:09] you know those places where they keep books [19:10] not ebooks those made outa paper [19:11] cvn you gone to sleep [19:15] hi [19:15] sorry no i have been busy this end [19:15] i am actually about to take a shower, bbl [19:15] they do, but they may restrict downloads [19:15] lol [19:16] Kilos did you notice when gc disappered? [19:17] sometime after our last coffee [19:18] did we have coffee lasat night or this morning? [19:18] last [19:18] strange, i wonder what happened? wonder if the server will log power off's? maybe will log going onto ups as well. [19:19] last night i think, after i did the updates. [19:19] ya didnt see her or you this morning [19:20] i was on a call out [19:20] so maybe the electricity went last night sometime. [19:21] need to get a proper ups for her. [19:23] is there anyone other than us that uses her yet [19:23] like in the shop? [19:28] no not yet [19:28] thats ok QP only has me [19:28] i want to set up another separate machine for the shop to use. [19:29] one with a domian, and hopefully use it to run the wireless network. [19:29] domain [19:29] ah [19:29] kbmonkey does not seem to be here much lately [19:30] just got this from alpha guy [19:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript [19:34] have seen that before, similar to aptoncd [19:34] that can help to get packages but wont work on security updates etc i think [19:34] i am out of here for tonight, night all, night Kilos [19:35] night magespawn sleep tight [19:35] nn magespawn [19:35] leave [19:35] lol [19:36] hee hee [19:36] i thought he was giving us a hidden message [19:36] :) [19:36] lol [19:36] evening [19:36] hi Squirm [19:36] hes acting like an ibid bot [19:36] hey Squirm [19:37] ibids work with those command to leave channels [19:37] or die to shutdown [19:39] Kilos: tell magespawn that he can check when last his system was rebooted with the last command [19:39] lol [19:39] rofl [19:40] Kilos: try it [19:40] last [19:40] Maaz, tell magespawn tell magespawn that he can check when last his system was rebooted with the last command [19:40] Kilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [19:40] last [19:40] inetpro: uptime would be the right tool for that [19:40] oh you mean the reboot itself? [19:41] yeah last is good [19:41] cvn: yes sir [19:41] if his bot is off it didnt reboot [19:42] 09/07 21:20:44 so maybe the electricity went last night sometime. [19:42] Kilos: ^^ [19:42] yeah but will last give shutdown time or reboot time [19:43] i see this [19:43] reboot system boot 2.6.35-32-generi Mon Jul 2 07:49 - 15:21 (07:32) [19:43] but many of them [19:43] Kilos: it will give reboot time which will help you to track things easier [19:43] hmm [19:44] inetpro, did you look at thoughts on channel use [19:44] ive been waiting for you old clever users to come shoot me down in flames [19:44] or make some comment [19:44] hmm... [19:45] checked the man pages and it seems like if you type "last reboot" you only get the reboots without the logins [19:45] cvn: true [19:45] from 20.09 to 20.16 [19:47] ive stayed 45 mins past normal bedtime waiting for some feedback [19:47] Kilos: eish! [19:47] will sent my headache to you guys [19:48] * inetpro is busy with other stuffs, sorry [19:48] hehe [19:48] thats an excuse [19:48] thats a 20 sec read [19:48] I was just trying to catch up quickly with you guys while I have to continue with more stuffs [19:49] ya ya [19:49] Kilos: ja ja [19:49] hehe [19:49] Kilos: how did the wine thing go? [19:49] Squirm, actually got the game going but oh so slow [19:50] I hear some games run better on wine than windows [19:50] correct drivers installed? [19:50] Kilos: nothing wrong with your suggestion but perhaps worth voting on at the next meetup [19:50] whenit played intro music and went white screen a few enters made it step past all the intro stuff [19:50] not sure whether it's really necessary though [19:51] i just dont want anyone to get upset inetpro [19:51] so better if its an open decision hey? [19:51] Kilos: get upset with who? [19:52] there have been times when someone has come on and asked what has this discussion to do with ubutu [19:52] ubuntu [19:56] it's understandable that it's confusing for newlings [19:56] but i'm going to remain neutral in this one [19:56] Raspberry Pi has been dispatched [19:56] * Squirm dances [19:56] lol ya i will take the heat [19:57] Kilos: generally the Ubuntu Code of Conduct is what we should try to adhere to [19:57] https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1 [19:58] or http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct [20:01] productive, happy and agile community works better among friends than just nicks inna channel isnt it [20:04] where in both those links does it say discuss nothing but ubuntu or linux inetpro [20:05] Kilos: Be respectful [20:05] methinks maybe things like politics etc should be taboo yes [20:05] a community where people feel uncomfortable or threatened is not a productive one [20:06] im missing something here [20:06] I don't think it's healthy to spell out every rule in details [20:06] * Banlam has no idea what's happening [20:07] Banlam, scroll back to 20.09 to 20.16 [20:07] * Banlam has a sneak peak [20:08] yip i agree inetpro no black and white rules but we are getting past the reason for this discussion [20:09] a channel of friends is surely gonna be more efficient than a channel of nicks [20:09] superfly, help [20:10] Kilos: put it on the agenda for next week [20:11] how do i find that inetpro [20:11] you need to open a new link methinks [20:11] my personal opinion(if it counts at all), is that this is a community run channel. Yes, we chat, which is what keeps the channel alive. but then we're also here if someone needs help. If someone asks a question, we help them as best we can, if they've finished being helped, we carry on chatting. [20:11] or perhaps we can discuss later this week when more peeps are free [20:12] would actually be nice to get everyones opinions [20:12] Kilos: people will respond when they have time [20:12] * superfly doesn't think there's really much to discuss. We are bound by the Code of Conduct [20:13] superfly, does the code say no chatting here? [20:13] and I tend to agree with that also... the CoC covers a huge lot of ground [20:15] as in the odd personal news is what builds this community [20:15] the joking tween us is what keeps us coming back, not so [20:16] unity is the keyword [20:16] Kilos: it doesn't necessarily define *what* we should be chating about, but it defines *how* we should be chatting [20:16] Kilos: no need to cast that in stone [20:17] besides, I'm here and I haven't run Ubuntu in like 9 months :P [20:17] Squirm: shame [20:17] hehe [20:18] but is the community spirit that brings him back [20:19] superfly, "how" as in? sorry if im being slow as usual [20:19] '''Be considerate.''' [20:20] ''Be respectful.''' [20:20] '''Be collaborative.''' [20:20] '''When we disagree, we consult others.''' [20:20] '''When we are unsure, we ask for help.''' [20:20] '''Step down considerately.''' [20:20] squirm, but you're about to get a raspberry pi, so you'll be back on the linux train [20:20] Kilos: that ^^ [20:20] arent we doing all those things [20:20] Banlam: oh I use linux, just not Ubuntu [20:21] ive been reading [20:21] ah right :) [20:21] and I'll wait till windows 8 comes out, then I'll format my card and install that [20:21] Kilos: keep doing what you do, nothing wrong there [20:21] * Squirm hides from the 34 people here [20:21] eish Squirm [20:21] haha [20:22] na, probably go for debian again. [20:22] actually, CentOS, so I can practice for my RHCSA [20:22] yeah, i'd be suprised if windows 8 works with only 256mb ram :P [20:22] Squirm: you're welcome [20:22] inetpro: for? [20:23] Squirm: you're welcome to stay on as a member of our community [20:23] even if not using ubuntu [20:23] * Kilos agrees with inetpro [20:23] but that's just IMHO [20:23] if I wasn't I'd have been kicked out quite a while ago :P [20:23] * Banlam hasn't booted into ubuntu in months [20:23] squirm helped me get mxit going in 8.10 [20:24] or 9.04 [20:24] as for Banlam,.... [20:24] :D [20:24] that's another story :-) [20:24] ha ha ha [20:24] I have nothing against Ubuntu, just don't like the way Gnome 3 and Unity have gone. and yes, I know I could install my own window managers and what not(did that for debian I'm running now). I might actually do it to Ubuntu if I end up formatting [20:24] Kilos: shall we boot him outta here? [20:24] you can try keep me out [20:25] inetpro, who Banlam [20:25] squirm of course [20:25] na Squirm y is welcome [20:26] he helped the old man [20:26] so has Banlam [20:26] both welcome [20:27] * Banlam is well aware [20:27] but no more Kilos__ stuff [20:27] Banlam: you from PE? [20:27] i'm from the cape, but currently residing in PE [20:27] ahh [20:28] except the next week while I'm on holiday :) [20:28] Banlam: what is MEng Mechatronics? [20:28] it is a Master's of Engineering in Mechatronics [20:28] * inetpro spying on Banlam's G+ profile page :-) [20:28] heh [20:28] ahh [20:29] haha sneaky [20:29] g+ is worse than fb [20:29] twitter/blog/facebook all have the same info ;) [20:29] Banlam, have you followed ubuntuza on twitter [20:30] kilos, of course i have [20:30] i was like the 8th person [20:30] good lad [20:30] i dont go see whose there i tweet from pidgin [20:30] ou got rid of that old crappy client you were using? [20:31] choqok? [20:31] perhaps, can't remember [20:31] was a while ago [20:31] tried gwibber too [20:31] gwibber [20:31] that was it [20:31] pidgin is the easiest on my nerves [20:31] Banlam: so you still continuing to study after the Masters? [20:32] inetpro, not any time soon. [20:32] gonna finish the masters and get some job experience [20:32] ciao all [20:32] toods cvn [20:32] and some money [20:32] sleep tight [20:33] might do a doctorate one day [20:33] but just for the title :P [20:33] see why i come here [20:33] Banlam: how long to go before you get the masters? [20:33] get to mix with clever peeps [20:33] i'm supposed to finish my project at the end of the year [20:33] cool [20:33] but dunno if i'll ahve my thesis done in time for march graduation [20:34] start work in january [20:34] so will finish off part time [20:34] eish! [20:34] that be tough [20:34] mmm [20:34] not wise that [20:34] don't have a choice really [20:35] got contract to start in january [20:35] with money in pocket priorities change [20:35] going to try my damndest to get finished in time [20:35] ah [20:35] yeah, [20:35] doctorate isn't that important to me [20:36] then put in all the time you can before work starts Banlam [20:36] uyp [20:36] yup [20:37] after masters inna pocket then play [20:37] :) [20:38] hey guys i go crash now. sleep tight all. ty for the chats [20:38] mm [20:38] i also need some sleepz [20:38] inetpro, how'd you find my G+ profile? [20:38] it's not that difficult, i'm just curious [20:38] he is an old skelm [20:39] Banlam: I have you on my twitter followers :-) [20:39] yes [20:39] twitter [20:39] 1 + 1 = 2 [20:39] oh [20:39] just search name> [20:39] > [20:39] ? [20:39] Banlam: exactly [20:39] :) [20:41] Banlam: but to start with it was your nick that gave me a clue [20:41] inetpro, oh? [20:41] with /who Banlam [20:42] :) [20:42] well [20:43] my battery is making funny pictures at me [20:43] so toodle loo [20:43] Banlam: good night