[03:38] <xubuntu469> i'm having some trouble getting hdmi audio out to work. the sound options recognise that the hdmi device can output audio and the bars move around when there should be sound playing but there's no sound. any ideas why this may be the case? it works fine in windows
[04:22] <theuser> Where did my pidgin data go?
[11:07] <paco666> help???
[11:08] <paco666> xubuntu dont let me in from logg in screen
[11:10] <paco666> ??? folder encryption so cant get my fils ???
[11:18] <tommaloney> got a question, Trying to install unbuntu server and it says i am missing tigon/tg3_tso5,bin.  Total noob, google was not my friend this time, where can i get that file
[11:21] <astraljava> tommaloney: Seems there's an open bug about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1021747
[11:22] <tommaloney> ok, does unbuntu server 11 have this bug, if not where can i download that
[11:24] <tommaloney> ok got the image just want to know if it has the same bug
[14:33] <saurabh_> Hi, I have seen at Linux mint's website that they have updated xfapplet which can gnome 2 (and now mate) applets. How can I install the updated xfapplet in xubuntu 12.04?
[15:01] <claudiu_> bonjour
[15:21] <saurabh_> Hi, I have seen on Linux's mint website that xfapplet has been updated to run mate applets like mintmenu. How can I install the updated xfapplet in xubuntu?
[15:24] <saurabh_> anybody?
[15:39] <alano> bonsoir
[15:55] <Papa-Smurf> Hi buddies
[15:55] <Papa-Smurf> How can i set up a keyboard shortcut to run the terminal?
[15:55] <Papa-Smurf> xfce4-terminal or xterm...
[15:55] <Papa-Smurf> thanks!
[15:58] <baizon> Papa-Smurf: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5978
[16:00] <Papa-Smurf> baizon,  it doesn't work
[16:00] <Papa-Smurf> i cannot add anything there
[16:00] <baizon> so you doing something wrong?
[16:00] <Papa-Smurf> the windows appears with the commands
[16:00] <baizon> what version of xubuntu?
[16:00] <Papa-Smurf> i've just made click on add button
[16:00] <Papa-Smurf> Xubuntu 12.04
[16:01] <Papa-Smurf> I can choose the command but not the shortcut
[16:01] <Papa-Smurf> you know what i mean
[16:02] <baizon> Papa-Smurf: rofl
[16:02] <baizon> add a program
[16:02] <baizon> then click again on it
[16:02] <baizon> then just press your shortcut
[16:02] <baizon> and it will add automatically
[16:02] <Papa-Smurf> let me try again
[16:02] <baizon> it will appear under the "name"
[16:04] <Papa-Smurf> yeah man
[16:04] <Papa-Smurf> i did it
[16:04] <Papa-Smurf> it is not very intuitive
[16:04] <Papa-Smurf> you click on add button
[16:04] <baizon> yes i know :)
[16:06] <Papa-Smurf> then you choose the command and finally it appears a weird grey message where you have to put your shortcut :)
[16:06] <Papa-Smurf> :)
[16:06] <Papa-Smurf> baizon, thanks dude
[16:06] <baizon> np
[16:36] <Shredder_> Can anyone help me with a Wireless issue?
[16:37] <thermi> just ask.
[16:38] <Shredder_> Xubuntu won't accept my Wireless Pass, it's correct. I've also attached ethernet and updated but still no avail
[16:39] <thermi> Did you make sure no awkward key layout is activated?
[16:39] <xubuntu388> hello con somebody help me ??
[16:40] <Shredder_> Yeah it's on the correct keyboard layout, I've checked on other documents and shown whats typed
[16:40] <holstein> i would keep it simple.. i would go to another access point and try and join
[16:40] <holstein> !ask | xubuntu388
[16:40] <thermi> Okay. Are you using the network-manager?
[16:40] <thermi> "Network-Manager-Applet"
[16:40] <thermi> and do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[16:41] <Shredder_> I'm just trying to manually input it via the Network Manager
[16:42] <thermi> Yes, but wpasupplicant is used to connect to the AP
[16:42] <Shredder_> Ahh, I most likely don't have that
[16:42] <xubuntu388> im trying to instal xubuntu but in the interface froze and sometime appears a message telling something about panic occures
[16:42] <Shredder_> How do I check?
[16:42] <thermi> it should be installed by default
[16:42] <thermi> try "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[16:43] <Shredder_> Okay, one sec
[16:43] <holstein> xubuntu388: you can get more specific about the "something", or you can try the alternate CD.. usually i try and run the CD live and see about the compatibility
[16:43] <thermi> it will succeed if it is not installed and fail if it is not available or already installed.
[16:43] <recon_lap>  xubuntu388 : does the live CD load?
[16:43] <holstein> xubuntu388: typically, if the live CD loads and runs, the install will be fine
[16:44] <Shredder_> It said it's already installed the newest version
[16:44] <thermi> OKay.
[16:44] <thermi> what WPA version is the AP running? WPA2?
[16:45] <Shredder_> Erm
[16:45] <xubuntu388> yeah it loads its on the interface of loading when froze, about "somethig" the screen turns black and many lines apear like code and in the final line said panic accurse (sorry about my english)
[16:46] <Shredder_> Is there a way of checking?
[16:46] <thermi> brb. getting my laptop.
[16:46] <holstein> xubuntu388: is there a localized ubuntu channel for your native language?
[16:46] <Shredder_> Okay
[16:46] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: hmm, well it might be a bad CD, or you got hardware issues. I'd check the cd and iso next
[16:47] <thermi> because i don't have WIFI on my desktop.
[16:47] <Shredder_> Ah okay
[16:48] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: so check the MD5sum value of the ISO you used to create the live CD, you are using a CD ?
[16:48] <holstein> !md5
[16:49] <thermi> okay.
[16:49] <thermi> try sudo cat /var/log/daemon.log | grep NetworkManager and tell me if shows anything related to your wireless LAN
[16:50] <xubuntu388> ok it could be the  hardware, firts i was trying to instal ubunto 12.04 but froze too thats why im trying with xubuntu, its a cd
[16:50] <Shredder_> Okay, one second
[16:50] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: ok, whats the computer make/model you installing to?
[16:53] <Shredder_> This may be me failing, but where's the vertical line '|' on the keyboard?
[16:53] <Shredder_> Nevermind!
[16:53] <thermi> "altgr" + <
[16:53] <thermi> or you might just copy it
[16:53] <thermi> :D
[16:53] <thermi> if you can do that.
[16:53] <xubuntu388> its an old one a compaq presario v2000 Amt of RAM 512 MB , Hard drive 60 GB
[16:55] <Shredder_> I'm just getting 'No such file or directory' I'm pretty sure I typed it identically
[16:55] <thermi> oh. What Ubuntu are you running?
[16:55] <thermi> then try sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep NetworkManager
[16:56] <thermi> I run 10.04 here.
[16:56] <Shredder_> I'm running whatever the latest version of Xubuntu is
[16:56] <Shredder_> Okay, I got a load of stuff back from that one
[16:56] <thermi> Okay. Then it's 12.04.
[16:57] <thermi> Any errors or failures?
[16:57] <thermi> You might just copy that information to a pastebin and censor it before hitting "send"
[16:57] <thermi> please don't paste that into the channel :D
[16:58] <Shredder_> I won't aha
[16:59] <Shredder_> Yeah there are some fails by the look of it
[16:59] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: seems you got a problem model :( http://askubuntu.com/questions/156718/ubuntu-12-04-freezes-during-install-on-compaq-presario-v2000 , I would guess it's video card related. you might be able to use the alt install and try setup a better video driver before installing the GUI.
[16:59] <thermi> Please paste me those.
[16:59] <thermi> in a pastebin
[17:00] <Shredder_> sure sec
[17:01] <Shredder_> Are there any bits that I need to remove before sending?
[17:01] <xubuntu388> ok i will try with an older version and alt install thanks !
[17:02] <thermi> I'll take a look at mine.
[17:02] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: think this issue will be in all versions
[17:02] <Shredder_> Cheers
[17:02] <thermi> no.
[17:02] <thermi> You don't have to.
[17:03] <thermi> Still, you might want to send the share to private and have it expire
[17:03] <Shredder_> Okay, one second
[17:03] <thermi> :D
[17:03] <thermi> or unlisted.
[17:03] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: this page probably a good start http://joshuadavis.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/fully-working-ubuntu-with-a-compaq-presario-v2000/
[17:04] <Shredder_> Yeah I've set it to expire and also unlisted
[17:04] <Shredder_> pastebin.com/3m7K9fYG
[17:07] <xubuntu388> it seems to be de hardware, i will keep searching thank you
[17:07] <thermi> is the AP far away from you?
[17:09] <Shredder_> In distance?
[17:09] <Shredder_> It's like maybe 5-10 meters
[17:09] <thermi> Okay.
[17:10] <thermi> I'm googling the error right now
[17:10] <Shredder_> Okay, thanks (:
[17:10] <thermi> do uname -a and send me the output please
[17:11] <recon_lap> xubuntu388: this might be really helpfull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967098
[17:13] <Shredder__> Linux Laptop-Xubuntu 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 17:49:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:13] <thermi> ty.
[17:14] <thermi> Are you trying to connect by clicking the AP which is visible in the list or are you trying to set up all information by hand by editing the connections?
[17:15] <Shredder_> I literally just clicked on the wireless icon, then chose the network - entered code.
[17:15] <Shredder_> I've also entered it manually
[17:15] <Shredder_> Still no luck
[17:16] <thermi> Are you sure no MAC-Filter is set up on the router?
[17:17] <Shredder_> I don't believe so, I didn't set anything like that up. And i've never had any issues before on Windows/OSX
[17:17] <thermi> Okay.
[17:18] <thermi> Is there any error shown?
[17:18] <thermi> Or does it just fail and show a notification?
[17:18] <Shredder_> When i try and connect?
[17:18] <thermi> yes.
[17:19] <Shredder_> It just refuses it
[17:20] <Shredder_> Ask to enter password again
[17:21] <recon_lap> Shredder_: you sure the password is correct? can you connect to the router using a patch cable to check the settings?
[17:21] <thermi> I think it is a bug in network-manager
[17:21] <thermi> because there are a LOT of people complaining about is
[17:21] <thermi> *it
[17:22] <Shredder_> @recon_lap Yeah the password is correct, I've got a mac and windows laptop sitting beside this one
[17:22] <thermi> as a workaround: try using wicd by installing "wicd"
[17:22] <thermi> wicd supplies a different version of a network-manager which might woerk
[17:22] <thermi> *work
[17:22] <Shredder_> Where do I grab wick from?
[17:23] <Shredder_> wicd*
[17:23] <thermi> you might find it in the software-center
[17:23] <Shredder_> Okay, one second
[17:23] <thermi> of course, you need a wired connection to do this.
[17:23] <thermi> :/
[17:24] <Shredder_> I've got it hooked up to ethernet for the moment
[17:24] <thermi> Okay.
[17:24] <Shredder_> It's downloading
[17:25] <Shredder_> Okay its downloaded
[17:26] <thermi> open a terminal and launch wicd, by invoking wicd, if it isn't already started.
[17:26] <Shredder_> Yeah it's just running now. I'm trying to connect
[17:27] <thermi> and disable managing wlan-connections in the menu of network-manager
[17:29] <Shredder_> okay one sec
[17:29] <Shredder_> How do I disable it from within Network Manager?
[17:29] <thermi> right click the network manager icon in the bar
[17:30] <thermi> I really hope that works.
[17:31] <Shredder_>  I hath internet :D
[17:31] <thermi> it works? wow.
[17:31] <thermi> Then it really was a bug in the network manager.
[17:31] <thermi> :D
[17:31] <Shredder_> Hah thank you for helping :D
[17:31] <thermi> No problem. Always a please. Have fun with your laptops :D
[17:32] <Shredder_> I shall, thanks again!
[17:34]  * thermi is setting up OpenVPN on his laptop. :>
[20:15] <Wornyx> Hi, i'got a problem when i install xubuntu 12.04 ( x32 ) the loading plat after 2-3 min.
[20:15] <Wornyx> I test the iso md5 and burn it 2 times
[20:17] <Wornyx> Someones got an idea ?
[20:18] <recon_lap> Wornyx: did you try "test live CD" from the boot menu? what make model of computer? and what is the actual error and when does it appear ?
[20:19] <Wornyx> Hum, i didn't choose anything, it plant in the screen in blue with xubuntu and the charging bar
[20:20] <Wornyx> the error is that all stop and i try to wait 1hours and didn't move
[20:22] <recon_lap> Wornyx: nearly there, now just need the make/model :)
[20:24] <Wornyx> Of the PC ? Acer Aspire 5020
[20:31] <recon_lap> Wornyx: try booting from the CD, put press esc at the start of boot, you should see the boot messages then. if you dont see boot messages restart and try again(do not wait more that 1 min). tell us what you see.
[20:33] <Wornyx> i see : aborted. \n boot: _
[20:34] <Wornyx> So, i Enter and now, i got the menu
[20:34] <Wornyx> Try
[20:34] <Wornyx> Install
[20:35] <Wornyx> Check disc
[20:35] <Wornyx> What should i do ?
[20:37] <recon_lap> Wornyx: Check Disc
[20:38] <recon_lap> Wornyx: the disk is ok you can move on boot to live cd :) if that works, install.
[20:39] <recon_lap> the/if*
[20:39] <Wornyx> Euh, i finish the check
[20:39] <Wornyx> but, i'm sure that the disk is ok
[20:39] <Wornyx> Is that normal if the normal install bug ? or did it appened to another personn ?
[20:40] <Kagee> I run a souble screen-setup using flgrx, and i want to have the same panels on top/bottom of each screen - is there a easy way to copy a panel setup?
[20:40] <recon_lap> Wornyx: I'm just walking you through a fault finding process, one step at a time
[20:41] <Wornyx> Ok
[20:45] <recon_lap> Wornyx: you making any progress?
[20:45] <Wornyx> It'i loading
[20:45] <Wornyx> Or not, the barre just stop
[20:45] <Wornyx> i'll wait some times ...
[20:49] <Wornyx> So, it didn't move ... ^
[20:49] <recon_lap> Wornyx: you can try press esc to see messages, gives a much better idea what going on
[20:50] <Wornyx> esc didn't make anything
[20:50] <Wornyx> an the other too ^^
[20:54] <recon_lap> Wornyx: too little information, can you get the boot messages on screen when booting? and what are the last couple of boot messages before it stops?
[20:56] <Wornyx> So, when i start the PC, it auto boot on the cd, and the loading screen apear ( in blue with the barre and xubuntu printed ) next, the bare move move and move and i don't understand why but it stop and i can't do anything, the screen freez
[20:56] <Wornyx> I didn't get any message ^
[20:57] <recon_lap> Wornyx: so you don't get a boot menu?
[20:57] <Wornyx> No
[20:58] <Wornyx> Excepted if i do want you say
[20:58] <Wornyx> press esc when booting
[21:01] <recon_lap> Wornyx: try again, but press esc and go to the boot menu, select "boot to liveCD/session" press "esc" again, you should be able to see all commands executed.
[21:05] <Wornyx> boot to liveCD/session didn't exist
[21:05] <Wornyx> Try Xubuntu without installing
[21:05] <Wornyx> install xubuntu
[21:05] <recon_lap> Wornyx: try Xubuntu without install
[21:06] <Wornyx> ok
[21:06] <recon_lap> the press esc of you see the splash screen
[21:07] <Wornyx> ok, there's many command
[21:07] <Wornyx> i say to you when it stop
[21:08] <recon_lap> Wornyx: right, that should keep going till you hit the login screen, if it stops for 30sec or more we probably at the problem
[21:10] <Wornyx> [ 115.254219] [<c1576ed4>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [ 115.254219] ânic occured, switching back to text console
[21:12] <Wornyx> and now it didn't move
[21:16] <recon_lap> Wornyx: kernal panic , ubuntu does not like some hardware on your computer, paste the last few line away for referance
[21:17] <recon_lap> Wornyx: what was the preceding line to [ 115.254219] ...
[21:17] <Wornyx> the id is the same for all the screen
[21:18] <recon_lap> Wornyx: press ctrl-C and see if anything happens
[21:18] <Wornyx> nop
[21:18] <Wornyx> A reel kernel panic, the pc is freez, i can't do anything
[21:20] <recon_lap> Wornyx:  think it's in a loop as you say the panic msg is repeated, maybe boot again and watch for the first panic and note what was running.
[21:22] <Wornyx> No, the msg isn't repeated
[21:22] <Wornyx> the screen freez after it and the pc is totaly freezed
[21:23] <recon_lap> Wornyx: thats all that it says? nothing else?
[21:23] <Wornyx> After the panic occured
[21:24] <Wornyx> no
[21:24] <Wornyx> but before, all is working good
[21:27] <recon_lap> Wornyx: I need to see more to have any idea what caused the panic, telling me it was good is no help. what where the last 5 lines of text out of the boot messages.
[21:28] <Wornyx> the last 5 line :
[21:29] <Wornyx> [ 11.5.254219][<c146b1eb>] sys_sendmsg+0x3b/0x60
[21:30] <Wornyx> [ 11.5.254219][<c146b873>] sys_socketcall+0x263/0x2c0
[21:31] <Wornyx> [ 11.5.254219][<c105083c>] ? sys_time+0x1c/0x50
[21:31] <recon_lap> Wornyx: think you problem is http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/05/09/ubuntu-12-04-splash-screen-lockup-with-livecd/
[21:31] <Wornyx> [ 115.254219] [<c1576ed4>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[21:31] <Wornyx>  [ 115.254219] panic occured, switching back to text console
[21:32] <recon_lap> Wornyx: and unfortunately those 5 lines where no help :(
[21:32] <Wornyx> So, i can't do anything ? Did you know where i can get a previously version of xubuntu ?
[21:33] <Wornyx> The 10.xx version of ubuntu was working on this pc
[21:33] <recon_lap> Wornyx: I'm not sure, but i think the Acer InviLink 802.11g Wi-Fi uses the bcm43 driver .
[21:34] <Wornyx> But, if i unplug the wifi card it can work ?
[21:34] <recon_lap> Wornyx: yes, but this is 12.04 and you seem to be affected by a know bug.
[21:35] <Wornyx> ok :S
[21:35] <recon_lap> Wornyx: you'll need a wired connection to fix the bcom driver
[21:36] <Wornyx> Ok so, i unplug the wifi card, install and replug when install and install the driver with the wired connecion
[21:38] <recon_lap> Wornyx: get the update before repluging the wifi card, if the card is removable at all
[21:38] <recon_lap> Wornyx: but I'd follow the guide and check that I am correct about it being the wifi driver
[21:39] <recon_lap> Wornyx: before dismantling my computer :)
[21:40] <Wornyx> ok !
[21:41] <Wornyx> no problem, the wifi car is already unpluged ^
[21:45] <Wornyx> Yep, the install go more
[21:45] <Wornyx> The problem is that !
[21:46] <Wornyx> So, thanks a lot recon_lap, and sorry for my french english, which is not very understandable !
[21:46] <recon_lap> Wornyx: np, just glad we found the problem :)
[21:47] <Wornyx> Yep :)
[22:05] <uofm49426> ok mind you this is Temporary i have 2 Ethernets and one wifi card
[22:05] <uofm49426> cable modem in wire 1 and a magic jake on wire 2
[22:06] <uofm49426> how can i also use the wifi card for adhoc
[22:07] <uofm49426> using xubuntu 12.04
[23:36] <doofy> I'm seeing that for mac installs with EFI you need to use a mac specific ISO. Anywhere I can find this for 64 bit 12.04 xubuntu?
[23:38] <Unit193> Think Xubuntu just went with 32bit and 64bit normal, no Mac ones.
[23:41] <Unit193> If there's a mini iso for that, you can just install xubuntu-desktop and have basically the same.
[23:45] <astraljava> ...or vanilla.
[23:45] <Unit193> Meh, mini is cleaner. :P
[23:47] <astraljava> Sure, but you seemed quite doubtful, so it was just a suggestion that definitely is there.
[23:52] <doofy> will those installers allow me to do an EFI install
[23:52] <doofy> ?
[23:53] <doofy> maybe I will just use the ubuntu mac install and install xubuntu after..
[23:55] <doofy> getting this all to work on a MBP is quite the disaster