[00:03] <sankey_> in ubuntu i can change the master output speaker,
[00:03] <sankey_> but in kubuntu i have to manually move each stream manually
[00:04] <sankey_> (in kmix)
[00:04] <sankey_> how can i make kmix behave more like the gnome sound settings?
[02:04] <casey> Hello
[02:06] <genii-around> Hello casey .. if you have some question about your Kubuntu, just to ask the channel in general  and wait for a reply... for more informal chat, to visit #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <genii-around> Hm
[02:16] <c2tarun> Hi all, I found this image while reading post from stackoverflow http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5948/ubuntufonts.png can anyone please tell me how is the guy able to configure kde like unity?
[02:23] <ussher_> xvidcap records the screen but no sound, recordmydesktop records sound but not the screen, kazam crashes with segment fault.  Anyone know a stable setup for screencasting that just works?
[02:24] <ussher_> on kubuntu 12.04
[02:24] <ussher_> 64bit
[02:37] <c2tarun> anyone know how to make KDE look like Unity?
[02:45] <amason> c2tarun: i think someone did make an implementation of unity using plasma a while back but no idea if that is maintained or not
[02:45] <amason> or even what it was called, probably quickest to do a websearch
[02:57] <c2tarun> amason: I googled and found this page http://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.in/2012/01/how-to-make-kde-like-unity.html but I am not able to understand what is he trying to say about kubuntu
[02:59] <amason> c2tarun: well he's saying if you are using kubuntu you can just install Unity if you want unity :)
[03:07] <c2tarun> amason: really :P
[03:07] <c2tarun> did anybody try installing Unity on Kubuntu
[03:11] <c2tarun> amason: do you have any idea about creating HTTP request by script?
[03:11] <c2tarun> I was talking on this topic to BluesKaj and gennii-around and I got disconnected :(
[03:12] <amason> sure i can help with that. which language are you using ?
[03:12] <amason> just pastebin your code and let me know what isn't working and i should be able to point you in the right direction
[03:13] <c2tarun> amason: actually I haven't started yet. I posted this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2019402 and till now I have httpfox installed and looking at various sites  http headers.
[03:13] <genii-around> amason: His isp redirects his browser to a webpage which needs username/password, then it fiddles with dns and lets him access internet
[03:14] <c2tarun> genii-around: ohh.. you there :)
[03:14] <genii-around> c2tarun:  Looks like you might need some method like http://linux-journal.blogspot.ca/2005/04/curl-examples.html where it says "Sometimes your HTTP access is only available through the use of a HTTP proxy. This seems to be especially common at various companies. A HTTP proxy may require its own user and password to allow the client to get through to the Internet."
[03:14] <amason> genii-around: sounds pretty bleh. ...
[03:15] <genii-around> Yep.
[03:16] <c2tarun> here is the chat I was having yesterday, http://paste.kde.org/514802/ it was still in my Quassel
[03:16] <c2tarun> genii-around: you link look good, reading it.
[03:20]  * c2tarun seems like knowing more about curl will help me in this, reading more on Curl
[03:22] <genii-around> c2tarun: Anyhow... when you find the right curl command.. you can make a cronjob which runs it every so often ( like if your isp seems to disconnect every 10 minutes run it every 9 minutes or sos on)
[03:25] <c2tarun> genii-around: great :) I was looking for curl tutorials but only found the basic documentation, do you know any good tutorial on curl?
[03:26] <amason> c2tarun: i take it you can't just find a better isp ?
[03:26] <c2tarun> amason: I really want to :( but in Pune most of the ISP's suck and dont give their service everywhere. I am trying for an ISP with more bandwidth but not getting :(
[03:26] <genii-around> c2tarun: Sorry, no.. I have not used it much
[03:27] <amason> c2tarun: sorry to hear that.
[04:54] <nandhu> hi i am using gnome fall back session after update of libre office and few other updats from update manager my gnome panel crashed and deleted
[04:54] <nandhu> so now i am not able to view my account in top right corner and also the mail and ethernet options
[04:54] <nandhu> but every thing works fine in ubuntu session
[04:54] <nandhu> only in gnome fall back session it made problem
[04:55] <nandhu> any idea why this happen any way to restore it back
[05:14] <amason> nandhu: you might be better off asking in #ubuntu. There are mostly KDE users here
[07:27] <hellslinger> dolphin's windows resize extremely slow, yet other applicaitons' windows resize with no trouble... does anyone know why this could be?
[07:55] <eagles0513875_> hey guys is there a ppa with gimp 2.8? for some reason the psd file and gimp 2.6 is mangling the layout
[07:57] <eagles0513875_> ignore that i found it :)
[07:58] <hateball> eagles0513875_: afaik, Krita has some level of PSD support as well
[08:04] <eagles0513875_> hateball: i managed
[08:05] <eagles0513875_> i have the images which i opened in gimp and im able to use that instead
[08:05] <eagles0513875_> i just need to use the color picker to get hex values
[09:05] <sh4deimi> :)
[09:05] <sh4deimi> hi at all
[09:18] <Guest33943> dd
[09:18] <Guest33943> everybody here?
[09:19] <Guest33943> oo
[09:26] <reliability> hi
[09:29] <reliability> for some reason, the hibernate and sleep options disappeared after the last update (i guess)...
[09:30] <reliability> meaning, when i close my laptop, it will not enter sleep mode and I can't choose the sleep mode from the kubunutu-menu.
[09:31] <reliability> before, this worked seemlessly...
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:49] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[10:50] <BluesKaj> 'morning, cool this morning , 50F here
[10:50] <BluesKaj> clear tho
[10:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep looks like a nice day coming
[11:40] <damy> ？
[11:54] <kurumin> ola
[12:44] <VectorX> is multiseat supported in kubuntu ?
[12:44] <VectorX> coz doesnt look like its in gnome/ubuntu
[12:55] <Avihay> VectorX: there's a package that helps you set it up. it's Desktop Environment independent
[12:56] <VectorX> whats it called
[12:56] <Avihay> umm, forgot. the description contains the words keyboard mouse xserver helps you set up
[12:58] <VectorX> is it http://code.google.com/p/kubuntu-multi-seat/ ?
[13:01] <Avihay> no
[13:01] <Avihay> atleast I don't think so
[13:02] <VectorX> do you know if MS works well with kubuntu ?
[13:02] <VectorX> coz i wasted a lot of time trying to figure it out in gnome which doesnt work at all
[13:03] <VectorX> and then ended up with fedora which is ok but lacks LTSP support
[13:03] <hateball> How many users do you plan to serve?
[13:03] <VectorX> 5/6
[13:04] <VectorX> + about 20 via ltsp
[13:04] <hateball> There's a commercial product I use at work that works, and I think you can run 10 users or so for free
[13:04] <VectorX> 5/6 on multiseat
[13:04] <VectorX> whats it called
[13:04] <Avihay> well, wikipedia suggests some options http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration#GNU.2FLinux
[13:05] <hateball> VectorX: I'll pm you
[13:05] <VectorX> ok
[14:37] <hyoyeon> Earlier I used ddrescue to try and get an image, but does anyone kow how I can restore it?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hyoyeon, what kind of image ?
[14:38] <dziegler> Hi, is it possible to write some data into the swpa space?
[14:38] <dziegler> *swap
[14:38] <BluesKaj> dziegler, no it's reserved for RAM writing
[14:38] <genii-around> dziegler: Swap space doesn't really have a useable filesystem
[14:39] <hyoyeon> bluesKaj A memory stick or a harddrive. I used it on my memory stick after it gave a me a can't read error this morning
[14:39] <dziegler> BluesKaj genii-around i know, i only need it to test ma ne Graph that monitors the RAM and Swap-Space, but my PC wont swap on the normal way^^
[14:41] <dziegler> BluesKaj genii-around: i think i try it with a ramdrive and dd from /dev/zero
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hyoyeon, expalin what you ae trying to do please
[14:42] <genii-around> hyoyeon: If it made some file after running, this is usually the raw contents ( or as close as it could get if there were a lot of read errors ). You can use like sudo dd if=/path/input-file-ddrescue-made of=/dev/sdX(#)    where X is the drive you want to make the duplicate of the old one to, and (#) is optionally the partition number if you specifically used it on a partition and not the entire drive
[14:50] <hyoyeon> BluesKaj,genii-around,I want to be able to use the files on the image again, it was saved to a .img file using ddrescue,  I'm trying to restore it  to /dev/sda3 but it's telling me there is no such file or directory even though it's there when i type fdisk -lu
[14:53] <genii-around> hyoyeon: Was it originally some sub-partition like this you ran ddrescue on, or the entire disk device ( like, was it /dev/sdd   or was it more like /dev/sdd3 )
[14:55] <hyoyeon> genii-around, it was the whole usb. guessing I should make a new partition called /dev/sdx then?
[14:55] <genii-around> hyoyeon: No
[14:56] <genii-around> hyoyeon: Did the drive have different partitions or only 1 big partition?
[14:57] <nnn> how i can install kubuntu on my ubuntu? sudo apt-get install........
[14:57] <hyoyeon> genii-around: it was a memory stick, 1 big partition
[14:58] <genii-around> nnn: kubuntu-desktop
[14:58] <nnn> can i use 2 desktop beside like unity and kde?
[14:59] <nnn> ??
[14:59] <genii-around> hyoyeon: So then to try first something like: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/ddrescue-file /mnt           and see if it lets you list the old contents under the directory called /mnt
[15:00] <nnn> ??
[15:00] <genii-around> nnn: Not usually at the same time without special stuff to support that. But you can have both installed then choose at login screen which you want
[15:01] <nnn> what is the kde plasma?
[15:02] <genii-around> nnn: I answered you already in #ubuntu
[15:03] <genii-around> Also.. please do not post the same question in a bunch of channels, it becomes very annoying for the helpers!
[15:03] <nnn> ok
[15:03] <nnn> how to install plasma ?
[15:06] <nnn> genii-around: how i can install plasma?
[15:07] <genii-around> nnn: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:07] <genii-around> nnn: You may first want to do: sudo apt-get update
[15:08] <nnn> update for what?
[15:09] <genii-around> nnn: That gets the most current list of what is available in the repositories at the moment
[15:09] <genii-around> nnn: If you install something first before getting the latest list, you may get an out-of-date version installed
[15:12] <nnn> thank you , most i install all my program es like kde system setting isted of system setting(default)?
[15:13] <genii-around> nnn: I'm sorry, I did not understand your last question
[15:13] <mr0wl> does anyone have a link to an article that explains the whole Canonical cutting Kubuntu funding fiasco?
[15:14] <mr0wl> seems that there are still a lot of users who are ill-informed and they are considering leaving the Kubuntu.
[15:15] <Riddell> mr0wl: it has new sponsors, no change as far as users are concerned
[15:15] <nnn> for example we have 2 system setting on software center one of them is for kde most i install that for kde and can i use another on kde?
[15:16] <hyoyeon> genii-around: relative path ok? it just gives me a help message when i type that
[15:16] <Riddell> nnn: the kde one will set various kde bits in places
[15:18] <genii-around> hyoyeon: relative path should be fine. If it doesn't let you mount directly, may need to either specify filesystem type, or specify offset to the partition start which is a pain but do-able
[15:18] <genii-around> hyoyeon: ( I will assist in helping you find the offset if that is the case )
[15:18] <mr0wl> Riddell: okay, thanks for the tldr version! :]
[15:19] <nnn> excuse me i am installing kde and here is a one question  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084640/
[15:20] <nnn> one of them i most choose what is the different between them?
[15:21] <genii-around> nnn: That is the login screen. If you had regular ubuntu already, just choose lightdm and it will not change
[15:21] <hyoyeon> genii-around: Cheers!, would you be able to recommend any sites that would have examples on how to do stuff like this? I'm not too sure what an offset is let alone find it, and it may be a slow pace for you to guide me
[15:23] <genii-around> hyoyeon: Give me some time and I can find something if you like. ( I am at work so also there may be fair bit of lag from me occasionally 0
[15:25] <genii-around> hyoyeon: http://wiki.edseek.com/guide:mount_loopback#accessing_specific_partitions_in_the_image  looks pretty useful
[15:27] <hyoyeon> genii-around: Just heading home myself, thanks for the link! Hopefully it'll do the job :)
[15:28] <genii-around> hyoyeon: You can also run fdisk on the image file itself if the original is no longer available
[15:29] <BluesKaj> hyoyeon, here's a rather dry tutorial , but it has some good info , http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[15:30] <hyoyeon> genii-around : I'll give them a try:) thanks for all the help
[15:30] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Ah, nice find
[15:30] <BluesKaj> genii-around, thank google :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> it follows me where ever i go
[15:38] <nnn> excuse me my windows button (super button) is not working on kde
[15:40] <genii-around> nnn: What were you expecting it to do?
[15:41] <nnn> i want to it open main menu bar [left and down]
[15:43] <nnn> can you help me?
[15:44] <nnn> I want to open kickoff app luncher by super button
[15:46] <genii-around> nnn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/884141
[15:46] <jussi> you can make it do that...
[15:47] <nnn> jussi: How?
[15:47] <jussi> it just takes a little bit of "hacking"
[15:47] <jussi> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/kde-laucher-set-superkey-lke-shortcut/
[15:47] <genii-around> jussi: Ah, nice
[15:47] <nnn> jussi: can you get me another link because this link is filtered in iran :(
[15:48] <jussi> nnn: google plus better? https://plus.google.com/101839830409692150605/posts/DErnSJbNy5b
[15:49] <nnn> jussi: very very very thank you :D :D
[15:49] <jussi> nnn: you are most welcome
[15:55] <nnn> where is f13 key ? I have F12
[15:56] <OerHeks> F13 = F1 + shift
[15:56] <nnn> thanks
[15:56] <jussi> nnn: f13 doesnt exist really, hence they say "phantom key"
[15:57] <OerHeks> F13-F24 do exist.
[15:57] <jussi> OerHeks: not physically ;)
[15:57] <OerHeks> jussi agreed, not all keyboards are printed fully
[15:57] <jussi> OerHeks: he is following a tutorial to map super to F13, so he can then use f13 to open his kickoff
[16:00] <nnn> this mean I type xev in terminal then press super what then i most to do? https://plus.google.com/101839830409692150605/posts/DErnSJbNy5b
[16:11] <jussi> nnn: just means you check which code your key is from there
[16:12] <jussi> nnn: KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5c00001, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 4879518, (-419,1176), root:(256,1199), state 0x0, keycode 133 (keysym 0xffeb, Super_L), same_screen YES,
[16:12] <jussi> mine is 133 - see that ?
[16:12] <jussi> the bit that says "keycode 133"
[16:15] <nnn> jussi:press superkey for 1 sec or  10 sec?
[16:15] <jussi> nnn: just one sec, then it will pop up with several events
[16:16] <jussi> KeyPress Event, KeyReleaseEvent etc
[16:17] <nnn> then most I close terminal?
[16:17] <jussi> nnn: once you know what the keycode for your key is, you can close the terminal. just remeber that number, youll need it in a moment
[16:18] <nnn> mine is 133
[16:18] <nnn> then what?
[16:18] <jussi> read the instructions
[16:21] <nnn> only a ques:  xmodmap -e "keycode 133=F13"  what I most type  inst ed of F13 I want to enable my super key
[16:22] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[16:22] <Riddell> hi phoenix_firebrd
[16:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: hi
[16:23] <nnn> jussi: only a ques:  xmodmap -e "keycode 133=F13"  what I most type  inst ed of F13 I want to enable my super key
[16:23] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: how was akademy
[16:23] <jussi> nnn: nothing, use f13
[16:23] <jussi> type that exactly
[16:26] <nnn> jussi:where is Launcher Settings?
[16:26] <Riddell> phoenix_firebrd: pleasinly positive
[16:27] <jussi> nnn: right click the kickoff button
[16:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: good
[16:31] <nnn> very very special thanks jussi
[16:32] <jussi> nnn: it works?
[16:32] <nnn> yes
[16:32] <nnn> :D
[16:32] <nnn> guys do you know how i can back to the desktop mode of kde  ? I think I am on tablet mode.
[16:41] <grumbold> could someone help me setting up a 5.1 soundcard with lowpass filter for the subwoofer under kubuntu ?
[16:42] <genii-around> That's pretty specialized help!
[16:43] <nnn> can i  customize my mouse speed ? from where?
[16:45] <Smurphy> nnn: yes. Mouse settings. Acceleration etc.
[16:45] <nnn> where is speed option?
[16:45] <Smurphy> nnn: System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse
[16:46] <Smurphy> Cgheck advanced and mouse navigation
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> grumbold: creative soundblaster?
[16:46] <grumbold> no an extern usb from logilink
[16:47] <nnn> thanks I found that :D
[16:47] <grumbold> it already works that I have the same sound on all channels
[16:47] <phoenix_firebrd> grumbold: use ladspa plugins with alsa
[16:49] <nnn> is there a programme like HUD on KDE?
[16:51] <genii-around> nnn: Not yet that I know of, but one is apparently in the works, called AppMenu Runner
[16:51] <Smurphy> HUD ? Dunno. Never needed one.
[16:51] <nnn> I want searcher between menues
[16:53] <nnn> how to search between menu es via krunner ?
[16:53] <grumbold> what package do I need for ladspa ?
[17:01] <phoenix_firebrd> grumbold: in muon search for ladspa
[17:02] <nnn> How i can sign in my gmail account in kopete?
[17:03] <nnn> is there gmail support?
[17:04] <grumbold> do I need the equalizer plugin for alsa ?
[17:05] <grumbold> and after installing I havte to modify my .asoundrc to set up the filter right ?
[17:08] <TheOneRing> hi is there a dev build of wubi or a way to make it work with kubuntu active
[17:08] <gem_> guten abend:)
[17:14] <TheOneRing> because grub has no touch support i need wubi^^
[17:50] <nnn> how to move menu bar to the top like unity?
[17:52] <nnn> can i do that?
[17:58] <legolas> how to move menu bar to the top like unity?
[17:58] <legolas> ??
[18:01] <legolas> can you answer me?
[18:03] <gem_> hmm
[18:04] <gem_> menu bar settings?
[18:18] <qw_> hi, everybody
[18:18] <qw_> help please I want to change to itself a desktop
[18:24] <genii-around> qw[UA]: Your question is confusing. Can you re-ask in a better way?
[18:24] <legolas> can any body answer me?
[18:24] <legolas> geni-aound:how to move menu bar to the top like unity?
[18:24] <qw[UA]> nothing i am understand
[18:25] <legolas> how i can add a language keyboard?
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: hi
[18:26] <legolas> what?
[18:26] <legolas> hi
[18:26] <legolas> can you answer me?
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: yes
[18:27] <qw[UA]> i would like install widget "radio"
[18:27] <qw[UA]> help me
[18:27] <qw[UA]> please
[18:27] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: you want the application menu or the desktop panel on top?
[18:27] <legolas>  application menu
[18:28] <genii-around> I think to move it to the top, you choose Panel Options..Panel Settings...then drag where it says Screen Edge to the top
[18:28] <genii-around> ( I have not actually tried this )
[18:28] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: create a new panel on top and add the window menubar widget
[18:29] <legolas> why?
[18:29] <legolas> I want to move all menu bar to the top
[18:30] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: ya thats what it does
[18:30] <qw[UA]> help me please
[18:30] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: the menu bar  in application will disappear
[18:31] <legolas> How? this is not working for me
[18:35] <legolas> I want to move menu bars like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unity_2D_with_KDE.png
[18:37] <legolas> can you answer me?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> legolas, not many here use unity
[18:39] <legolas> what?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> this kubuntu (KDE), ask in #ubuntu for unity support
[18:40] <BluesKaj> legolas,^
[18:40] <legolas> no I want to add this to my kde :D
[18:41] <legolas> I want to move my menu s to top
[18:43] <BluesKaj> legolas, ok , try to drag it to the top
[18:44] <legolas> do you want to say maximize it?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> no ,left click hold the mouse button down and drag the panel
[18:45] <genii-around> legolas: The way I told earlier works, I just tried. right-click on bar. Choose Panel Options...then Panel Settings ...Grab where it says Screen Edge and pull it wherever you want
[18:45] <genii-around> BluesKaj: That doesn't work, I tried
[18:46] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: you want to align the panel on some side of the screen?
[18:47] <genii-around> phoenix_firebrd: legolas wants to put the panel on top and not bottom
[18:47] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: he want the ubuntu like global menu on top
[18:48] <legolas> yes I want like global menu
[18:49] <BluesKaj> ok genii-around thanks
[18:49]  * BluesKaj prefers the panel at the bottom
[18:49] <legolas> where is panel option?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> I can't seem grab it with the options open anyway
[18:51] <BluesKaj> side panels are annoying to me as well
[18:51] <legolas> where is grab?
[18:51] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: right click the bottom panel
[18:52] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: wait
[18:52] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: you want just the global menus on top right?
[18:52] <legolas> yes
[18:54] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: create a new panel
[18:54] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: right click on the desktop
[18:55] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: select unlock in the context menu if locked
[18:55] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: select add panel , and in that select empty panel
[18:56] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: done?
[18:56] <legolas> what is 'bottom panel'?
[18:58] <legolas> can you number them? only make a new empty panel?
[18:59] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: only empty panel
[18:59] <legolas> then.....
[19:00] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: done?
[19:01] <legolas> I have only a empty panel
[19:01] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: right click the panel and select add widgets
[19:01] <legolas> ok
[19:01] <legolas> then
[19:01] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: in that select window menu bar
[19:02] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: in that select window menu bar widget
[19:02] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: thats all
[19:03] <legolas> I don't have
[19:03] <legolas> that
[19:04] <BluesKaj> legolas, like this , http://imagebin.org/220219 ..use ctrl - to make the image smaller , since I use a large screen monitor
[19:05] <legolas> but where is global menu? BlueKaj?
[19:06] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: did you search for menu in the add widgets?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> on the left ebd of the panel
[19:06] <BluesKaj> rnd
[19:06] <BluesKaj> oops ..end
[19:07] <legolas> phonix_firebrd yes
[19:07] <BluesKaj> mine doesn't use the kmenu , I'm using the takeoff version
[19:07] <legolas> aha application menu launcher
[19:07] <legolas> tnx
[19:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:07] <legolas> one moment
[19:09] <legolas> tnx
[19:09] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: try after installing the kdeplasma-addons package
[19:10] <BluesKaj> my sytem tray got moved to the pager area by mistake during my fiddling around , normally it's beside the clock , but that's immaterial
[19:10] <legolas> :D
[19:13] <phoenix_firebrd> legolas: done?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> legolas, have you installed kubuntu-desktop or have you just installed kde in ubuntu
[19:17] <gem_> hi
[19:18] <gem_> anyone know where i can find teh "mic-boost" switch?
[19:19] <gem_> an the other "switches" on the soundcard?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> gem_,open alsamixer in the terminal , check the controls there
[19:28] <arian--> guys , when I restart my computer my display setting go to default :( what can i do ?(i have 2 monitors.
[19:29] <gem_> @BluesKaj thank U, but... there ist a mix-boost entra but i cant switch it(on/of) an ist only this button(where are the others?
[19:31] <gem_> maybee this is the wron channel, sorry...but i use mint 13 with KDE(i dont know why there are no switches 4 the sondcard(before i use kubuntu 8.04 and i only have to configure kmix...)
[19:31] <BluesKaj> gem , kmix , the little speaker icon in the panel
[19:31] <gem_> jes
[19:31] <gem_> but no switches
[19:32] <arian--> can you answer?
[19:32] <arian--> guys , when I restart my computer my display setting go to default :( what can i do ?(i have 2 monitors.)
[19:32] <genii-around> arian--: I would suggest Settings...System Settings... Startup and Shutdown ... Session Management... And either have Restore Previous Session, or else Restore Manually Saved Session ( and then later when things are how you like, Kmenu button..Leave..Save Sesssion )
[19:35] <BluesKaj> gem in alsamixer F5, that's all I know about ...what do you mean by switches?
[19:35] <gem_> @BluesKaj sorry 4 my bad englisch, my german is better...
[19:35] <gem_> nuja
[19:35] <arian--> thank you. geini-around
[19:36] <gem_> switches i know: mic-boost, 3D, digital?,... i habe these switches on kmix in kubuntu 8.04 but i cant find thme  now in mint13 with kde
[19:36] <gem_> maybee a mint problem?
[19:37] <phoenix_firebrd> gem_: its a soundcard specific option
[19:37] <gem_> i cann see, in alsa-mixer a mic-boost "entry?" but its red and i cant toggel it
[19:37] <phoenix_firebrd> gem_: can you paste a snapshot?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> gem sorry we don't support mint here , it may be different
[19:38] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[19:38] <gem_> from alsamixer?
[19:38] <phoenix_firebrd> gem_: ya
[19:38] <phoenix_firebrd> gem_: come to kde channel
[19:38] <gem_> ok B, maybe its mintluesKaj
[19:38] <gem_> i will join kde channel
[19:38] <gem_> mompl
[19:39] <BluesKaj> or mint channel
[19:40] <BluesKaj> gem ask here , ##linuxmint
[19:40] <BluesKaj> gem_, ^
[19:42] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: can i pm you?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> about ?
[19:43] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: irc
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:44] <arian--> excuse me , I restarted and my displays re defaulted.
[19:44] <arian--> what can i do
[19:46] <genii-around> arian--: How are you setting the screen size to what you like after you are booted?
[19:47] <arian--> what , my english is not advance can you say this easily
[19:47] <arian--> ?
[19:48] <genii-around> arian--: How you make screen as you like?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !cloak > phoenix_firebrd
[19:49] <arian--> from the display    (setting)
[19:49] <arian--> manually
[19:50] <genii-around> Hm
[19:51] <arian--> ??
[19:52] <[Relic]> Any idea if the task manager panel that shows open app will actually ever work properly w/o stacking things up that shouldn't be in the same space?
[19:53] <genii-around> arian--: When screen is how you like, please in Konsole: xrandr        And result to http://pastebin.com/
[19:54] <arian--> ok
[19:54] <arian--> http://pastebin.com/fjJ7XpTy
[19:56] <arian--> genii-around: this is that : http://pastebin.com/fjJ7XpTy
[19:57] <genii-around> arian--: Yes. Please to be patient, i am not just here but at my work also
[19:58] <arian--> what?
[20:00] <arian--> OK
[20:00] <BluesKaj> arian--, he's at his job and , is busy at times , so please have patience
[20:00] <nikos_> hey, I'm quite stupid.
[20:00] <nikos_> I downloaded a tar.gz archive
[20:00] <nikos_> I unpacked it to a folder I made.
[20:01] <nikos_> I tried to click on the icon to run the program but nothing happens.
[20:01] <nikos_> Is it not possible to run a program clicking icon ???
[20:01] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_: if it is a pure source, you cant
[20:02] <DarthFrog> nikos_:  Two possibilities occur to me.  One, you don't have permission to run that program.  Two, it might not be marked as executable.
[20:02] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: ok, thx. No it is not source code.
[20:02] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_:  did you set the executable flag?
[20:02] <nikos_> DarthFrog: yes, it is exe file.
[20:02] <DarthFrog> exe files are Windows, not Linux.
[20:02] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: about premission I have no idea.
[20:02] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: wrong
[20:02] <nikos_> But I don't get any message about it.
[20:03] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: executable flag ?
[20:03] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: Sorry but what is that ?
[20:03] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: executable file is a general name
[20:04] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_: right click the file and select properties
[20:05] <genii-around> arian--: You need to do this way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Setting_xrandr_commands_in_.xprofile    but with this in the file:  xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 &  xrandr --output VGA1 --mode  1024x768  &
[20:05] <artao> hai. fresh install of the drivers for my newly installed GeForce GTX560 Ti PCI-e card .... ... previously had an ATI x600 in here ... .... um ... for some reason, the display settings won't let me choose a monitor refresh rate above 51hz ... i know for a FACT this monitor can do 75hz @ 1280x1024 ... what gives?
[20:05] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_: in the permissions tab, tick the executable option
[20:05] <artao> i "think" i installed the correct drivers .. i installed nvidia current
[20:06] <nikos_> sorry, back now. had to do something.
[20:06] <genii-around> artao: That's usually the one, yes. So long as you have kernel headers it should install OK
[20:07] <artao> never mind. ... i found the nividia settings manager .. that let me fix it
[20:07] <artao> =D
[20:07] <artao> ... i'd mistyped nvidia at first <oops>
[20:07] <artao> in the app search thingy that  is
[20:07] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: is executable is marked.
[20:07] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: or selected.
[20:08] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_: i cant understand you
[20:08] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: in permissions
[20:08] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: is executable is marked so that should be all good.
[20:09] <phoenix_firebrd> nikos_: it should be marked
[20:09] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: maybe it is just not working with kubuntu.
[20:09] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: from the sites it says its been tested and working with ubuntu.ø
[20:09] <nikos_> phoenix_firebrd: I thought it would work with kubuntu too, but maybe not.
[20:10] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: can you help nikos_?
[20:10] <nikos_> by the way, kubuntu is way nice. I love it .
[20:10] <Daskreech> nikos_: New to linux?
[20:10] <nikos_> Daskreech: kind of.
[20:10] <Daskreech> nikos_: ok well in Linux all files are the same for the most part
[20:10] <nikos_> I been using ubuntu before, but started to hate it when they changed interface
[20:10] <Daskreech>  you can make any file an executable
[20:11] <Daskreech> anytime you copy a file esp from an archive or something it loses it's executable marking
[20:11] <Daskreech> As a safety precaution
[20:11] <arian--> genii-around: can you say what most i do step by step?
[20:12] <nikos_> http://www.sqrxz.de/sqrxz-3/sqrxz-3-download/
[20:12] <nikos_> if someone has time, this is the game I'm trying to run.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, he extracted the file into a folder that he created
[20:13] <artao> ok. perhaps i didn't fix it ... the "resize and rotate" taskbar thingy is STILL only seeing 51hz as the max refresh rate
[20:13] <nikos_> I downloaded the Linux version.
[20:13] <nikos_> It is both 32 and 64 bit versions. I ran 32bit since that is what I'm using.
[20:13] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: I know I was just explaining what's happening
[20:14] <artao> i guess i have no idea what refresh I'm actually running at here then .... do i hafta leave the nvidia settings thingy open? ... should i NOT be running the "resize and rotate" taskbar thingy?
[20:14] <nikos_> but nothing happen clicking the executable
[20:14] <genii-around> arian--: echo "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 &  xrandr --output VGA1 --mode  1024x768  &" > /home/$(whoami)/.xprofile        then: chmod +x /home/$(whoami)/.xprofile
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ok , Daskreech
[20:14] <nikos_> Daskreech: The archive is quite small
[20:14] <Daskreech> nikos_: ok so when you extract it you can make it executable again by looking at the properties and marking executable on the permissions
[20:15] <nikos_> Daskreech: executable again ?
[20:15] <artao> yeah ... xrandr isn't seeing 75hz as a possible option for 1280x1024 ... the nvidia settings thingy says i can tho, as does my monitor
[20:15] <nikos_> Daskreech: It is 2 executable files in the archive.
[20:15] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: is he missing wine>
[20:15] <artao> i'm confused.
[20:15] <nikos_> Daskreech: 32- bit version and 64-bit.
[20:15] <Daskreech> nikos_: I'm just explaining :) do you have a README in the archive? I'm getting it now so I'll tell you in a moment
[20:15] <nikos_> Daskreech: ah, thx :D
[20:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: is he missing wine?
[20:15] <nikos_> Daskreech: yes it is readme.
[20:16] <nikos_> Daskreech: I opened that one.
[20:16] <nikos_> Daskreech: no problem.
[20:16] <nikos_> Daskreech: it is the exe file that is not responding.
[20:16] <artao> verdammt this is freakin frustrating!!! hello???
[20:17] <Daskreech> nikos_: are you in dolphin?
[20:17] <nikos_> Daskreech: sorry
[20:17] <nikos_> Daskreech: what is taht.
[20:17] <artao> i would expect a modern vid card such as this GTX560 Ti to just work. ... apparently not tho ... not under linux <sigh>
[20:17] <nikos_> that
[20:17] <Daskreech> nikos_: the File manager
[20:17] <nikos_> Daskreech: ah, ok
[20:17] <nikos_> Daskreech: I started it now.
[20:18] <Daskreech> nikos_: Alright :) browse to the directory and press F4
[20:18] <Daskreech> a terminal will open at the bottom
[20:18] <Daskreech> in that type ./sqrxz3_ubuntu32
[20:18] <artao> i am aware that there's ... "issues" ... between linux and nvidia ... is THIS what they're talking about?
[20:18] <Daskreech> Let me know what happens
[20:19] <nikos_> Daskreech: ah cool.
[20:19] <nikos_> Daskreech: that opens the console.
[20:19] <arian--> OK i did that
[20:19] <nikos_> Daskreech: ./sqrxz3_ubuntu32: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:19] <nikos_> Daskreech: I don't have SDL installed or what.
[20:19] <artao> genii-around: any tips on getting this setup to work as expected?
[20:19] <nikos_> Daskreech: SDL.libs
[20:20] <Daskreech> nikos_: yeah that's what I figured
[20:20] <artao> the nvidia panel is saying I'm running at 75hz ... the "resize and rotate' KDE taskbar app is saying i'm running at 50hz ... um, WHAT????
[20:20] <artao> O.o <grrrr>
[20:21] <artao> xrandr says 75hz @ 1280x1024 isn't even an option
[20:21] <genii-around> arian--: You can manually add modes with xrandr
[20:21] <genii-around> artao:  You can manually add modes with xrandr
[20:21] <artao> i seriously hope i don't have to manually add 1280x1024@75hz
[20:21] <Daskreech> nikos_: install libsdl1.2debian
[20:21] <artao> that. is. lame.
[20:21] <artao> :(
 fine <grumble>
[20:21] <nikos_> Daskreech: how do I do that. sorry for being so lame
[20:22] <artao> let me see if i can remember how to do that
[20:22] <artao> ummm
[20:22] <artao> xrandr --addmode 1280 1024 75 ... yes?
[20:22] <genii-around> artao: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html shows some tools and syntax
[20:22] <genii-around> Work, afk
[20:23] <nikos_> Daskreech: I'
[20:23] <nikos_> sorry
[20:23] <nikos_> Daskreech: I'm in Muon now.
[20:23] <nikos_> Daskreech: Lots of SDL stuff.
[20:24] <nikos_> Daskreech: ah, found it :)
[20:24] <nikos_> Daskreech: Thx man.
[20:25] <nikos_> oh
[20:25] <Daskreech> nikos_: If you would like to find out which package works with which file you can use apt-file or youcan go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and put the name of the file in the second seach box
[20:25] <nikos_> libSDL_mixer I need too.
[20:26] <Daskreech> nikos_: That one is easier. it'scalled libsdl-mixer :)
[20:27] <BluesKaj> might need ia32-libs , if he's running a 65bit system
[20:27] <nikos_> Daskreech: hehe, yes found it.
[20:27] <nikos_> Daskreech: yeah works now :D
[20:27] <artao> genii-around: but why is the nvidia panel seeing 75hz as an option? this is very confusing. ... the nvidia settings says i AM running 75hz
[20:27] <nikos_> Daskreech: thx, a lot :D
[20:28] <BluesKaj> errn 64 bit :)
[20:28] <Daskreech> nikos_: Sure. do you know how to run a file from teh command line?
[20:29] <nikos_> Daskreech: nope ?
[20:29] <artao> am i perhaps having this issue because i'm using a DVI>VGA adaptor ... I'm guessing it's not reading the EIDE data from the monitor correctly
[20:30] <Daskreech> nikos_: ok if you are in the same directory as a file that you want to run you can put ./ infront of it to run it
[20:31] <nikos_> Daskreech: ah nice thx.
[20:31] <artao> genii-around: xrandr --output default --refresh 75
[20:31] <artao> gives me "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[20:31] <artao> "
[20:31] <artao> what the HECK does that mean?
[20:31] <Daskreech> Normally the command line will give you a lot more errors so you can figure out what's going on
[20:31] <genii-around> Back
[20:32] <genii-around> artao: I don't know offhand what that error means, although I've seen it before
[20:32] <artao> BOY this is irritating
[20:32] <genii-around> artao: Why not try specifying the device like VGA0 or whatever it's actually using
[20:33] <artao> xrandr is only seeing the display as "default" if i'm understanding it correctly
[20:33] <genii-around> artao: What is the result of just: xrandr        byt itself?
[20:33] <artao> umm
[20:34] <artao> i'll pastebinit
[20:34] <artao> hold on
[20:34] <genii-around> artao: OK
[20:34] <artao> gotta install pastebinit quick
[20:35] <genii-around> Coffee, back 2-3 minute
[20:35] <BluesKaj> or add pastebin plugin to firefox :)
[20:35] <artao> mmmm cofffeeeeee .... ... i just drained my cold-steeped coffee today ... steeped for 2 days
[20:36] <artao> can't use a firefox plugin from the CLI BluesKaj =]
[20:36] <artao> ok genii-around, here's what just "xrandr" gives me :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085140/
[20:37] <artao> interestingly, that error "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[20:37] <artao> " also showed up, but didn't get piped to pastebinit for some reason
[20:38] <artao> fighting with linux is certainly NOT what i wanted to do as first order of business today <sigh>
[20:38] <genii-around> Yes, odd it just says "default" as device
[20:38] <artao> i haven't even done my wake-up internetting yet >.>
[20:38] <genii-around> artao: Do you have something like a dvi to vga converter between the computer and the monitor?
[20:38] <Daskreech> nikos_: Enjoy
[20:38] <artao> yes
[20:39] <BluesKaj> copy and paste
[20:39] <genii-around> artao: Then that's why
[20:39] <artao> none of my monitors is DVI capable
[20:39] <artao> um. WHAT???
[20:39] <artao> tell me i can fix it ... O.O
[20:39] <artao> without buying a new monitor
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[20:39]  * artao shakes his head
[20:39]  * artao sighs
[20:40] <genii-around> artao: The capabilities of the monitor cannot be queried, so system does not know what it is, what it can display, etc
[20:40] <artao> win 7 has no problem with it
[20:40] <artao> >.>
[20:40] <genii-around> artao: I think if you just manually add the modes, see if they become usable
[20:40] <artao> nor did my previous vid card, an ati x600 .. also using DVI>VGA adapter
[20:40] <artao> i'll try
[20:41] <artao> i think i'm going to pause this for now tho and get on with my wake-up
[20:41] <artao> this is already upping my irritation level today
[20:41] <BluesKaj> artao, which graphics card/
[20:41] <artao> geforce GTX560 Ti
[20:42] <artao> i'm going to do this later ... too early in my day to start screaming
[20:43] <BluesKaj> artao, did you install the recommeded driver in jockey/additional drivers
[20:43] <artao> i ... have no idea
[20:43] <artao> what's jockey?
[20:44] <artao> i went into Muon package manager and installed nvidia current, the nvidia settings panel ...
[20:44] <BluesKaj> artao, kmenu apps>system>addtitional drivers
[20:44] <artao> removed all my ATI drivers ..
[20:44] <genii-around> artao: You can also look up the specs for your particular monitor(s) at http://www.monitorworld.com/monitors_home.html and then double check all the xrandr modes between what the card can do and what the monitor can do
[20:44] <artao> oh. it's seeing what the monitor model is just fine
[20:44] <artao> i know the monitor's specs
[20:45] <artao> it just thinks the max refresh reate is 51hz
[20:45] <artao> altho the nvidia settings panel lets me set it to 75hz
[20:45] <artao> looking in jockey now
[20:47] <artao> ok. i see there IS a newer driver. post release updates. installing.
[20:47] <artao> thx BluesKaj =] and genii-around =]
[20:48] <artao> i DO love linux, but sometimes i just wanna punch it :P
[20:48] <artao> i only installed win 7 for gaming
[20:49] <BluesKaj> artao, thank me when it works for you :)
[20:50] <L3top> artao: When you say you removed all your ATI drivers... what does this mean? Had you installed fglrx?
[20:50] <L3top> artao: If so, there are additional steps you need to take.
[20:50] <BluesKaj> L3top, probly ati onboard
[20:50] <artao> pretty sure i did, ya .... just searched muon package manage for ati and uninstalled everything ... i'll double check quick
[20:51] <artao> um ... what "additional steps" :S
[20:51] <artao> yeah. fglrx is gone
[20:52] <artao> ok. jockey wants me to reboot. brb.
[20:55] <L3top> artao: the fglrx driver makes changes which cause conflicts that simply removing the driver does not solve. This is the best way to change chipsets from fglrx. http://pastebin.com/0JndHFPK
[20:56] <artao> oh cripes :\
[20:56] <artao> crap
[20:57] <artao> L3top, am I going to hafta remove my nvidia drivers first for that?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> no
[20:58] <artao> k ... this is way more of a PITA than i expected
[21:01] <artao> wait, what am i saying. .... fighting with linux is FUN!!!! =}
[21:02] <genii-around> artao: That's the spirit!
[21:02] <artao> ok. i ran all those commands
[21:02] <artao> rebooting .... again again.
[21:07] <Lymphocyte> will kubuntu get calligra suite 2.4.3?
[21:09] <genii-around> !info calligra quantal
[21:09] <genii-around> Lymphocyte: Seems like not right away at least
[21:10] <Lymphocyte> so i have to compile it then?
[21:10] <Daskreech> Lymphocyte: It's probably in a PPA
[21:11] <genii-around> Daskreech: Looks like, yes
[21:11] <Lymphocyte> are ppas created by kubuntu developers?
[21:11] <genii-around> Not necessarily
[21:11] <Daskreech> Lymphocyte: the one we are speaking about it
[21:11] <Daskreech> is
[21:11] <Daskreech> but not always (in fact most likely not) true
[21:11] <genii-around> Daskreech: Although I see "failed to build" on one of them right now for it
[21:12]  * genii-around sips coffee and stares at Riddell
[21:12] <Daskreech> Lymphocyte: I'd go with may not ship with it. It will be available. Expect it as standard by the time 13.04 is in beta
[21:13] <Riddell> genii-around: what's up?
[21:13] <Daskreech> Riddell: calligra will ship with at least version 2.4.3 in 12.10 ?
[21:13] <Lymphocyte> may i ask why something that is released now wont make it into 13.04?
[21:14] <artao> well, i'm gonna stop fighting with this for now ... it's affecting my outlook for the day negatively
[21:14] <Riddell> Daskreech: it's on 2.5 beta currently
[21:14] <Lymphocyte> also i want to disable backup files in caligra words, but i cant find how to confiure caligra
[21:14] <Riddell> Lymphocyte: 2.4.3 is in kubuntu-ppa updates
[21:14] <genii-around> Riddell: We had a Q about Calligra 2.4.3, looks like you're the guy with the PPA, etc ( although currently shows FTB )
[21:15] <L3top> artao: Your choice to be sure, and I understand your frustration... but when you want to pick up again, ping me. I deal with these little things rather a lot.
[21:15] <Lymphocyte> Riddell: does that mean i have to enable testing?
[21:15] <Lymphocyte> testing repo
[21:15] <artao> cool thx L3top .. i'll remember that and do so =D thx
[21:15] <artao> parting channel for now. bbl.
[21:15] <Riddell> Lymphocyte:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[21:15] <Riddell> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install calligra
[21:16] <Riddell> Lymphocyte: and let me know if it works
[21:16] <Daskreech> Lymphocyte: No one packages it?
[21:16] <Lymphocyte> Riddell: i would test it no but, i have class in 10 mins, i will just pm you later and let you know if it works
[21:17] <genii-around> Riddell: Thank you sir for responding, I know your time is much in demand
[21:18] <Daskreech> Riddell: while you are here do you have any issues in Kmail 4.8.90 not recognizing nepomuk ?
[21:19] <Daskreech> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/07/10/plasma-desktopvl1792.png
[21:20] <Daskreech>  is what I have
[21:21] <Riddell> Daskreech: hmm I don't much use kmail I have to say
[21:21] <Riddell> Daskreech: does nepomuk work in other places?
[21:21] <Daskreech> Let me pull up dolphin
[21:22] <Daskreech> Hmm no stars
[21:22] <Daskreech> Guess not
[21:23] <Daskreech> Thought that was working before I rebooted
[21:23] <Daskreech> Ok let me try get that sorted
[21:23] <Daskreech> thanks
[21:23] <Daskreech> Gues that broke at some point
[21:34] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yeah , it's unfortunate about kmail ...had it working fine then after an upgrade to 4.8 something it started segfaulting on every click
[21:35] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: I really need to get the kontact folks to sit with you. You've hit like every bug in Kmail I'm sure they would have a faster cycle of testing if you just started sitting with them and cursing everytime Kmail breaks
[21:35] <Daskreech> Oooooooh he did it again. What happened this time?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, well, i hate to admit , I've just run out of patience .,..waas getting bugreport emails 5-6 /day with the bug being listed as a dupe everytime ..like nobody could be bothered to work on the bugs ...as if they sumarily are dismissed
[21:45] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: as a sort of backup to that I can't get the Kontact people to sit with you they don't seem interested
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, I'm not either ..besides Idon't really need an email client with a database attached and serch options etc ..thunderbird fills the bill ...scuse the pun :)
[21:50] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: :-) You heard that Mozilla stopped active development on that?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, no I didn't hear that , that's unfortunate
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, don't tell me I'm going to have to start searching for another email client , just after I've gotten rid of my gmail addiction
[22:01] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Well It's still going to be available
[22:02] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, ok , good to hear
[22:02] <Daskreech> they will do security updates just no new features
[22:02] <genii-around> There are some projects that were abandoned for pretty much years before they dropped them from repos
[22:05] <BluesKaj> ok , BBL , gotta switch to the local news
[22:06] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: pip?
[22:18] <c_smith> Hi, Amarok isn't playing my music, every time I double click it to play it, nothing happens, and everytime I press play, nothing happens. is there something I can do to fix this? it had been crashing a quite a bit (it would crash at the end of the song 4 out of 5 times.) so I cleared all the configuration.
[22:19] <c_smith> update: I got an SQL error in Amarok. >.<
[22:29] <phoenix_firebrd> c_smith: that happens when some song file in the collections folder is moved and the amarok scanner gives that message
[23:03] <phoenix_firebrd> i having a problem generating gpg fingerprint
[23:07] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: rule of thumb. Use your thumb for fingerprints
[23:08] <phoenix_firebrd> :D
[23:08] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha
[23:09] <phoenix_firebrd> i thought of using ffmpegthumbs
[23:13] <Daskreech> :-)
[23:13] <Daskreech> What's the problem?
[23:31] <hellslinger> has anyone else noticed that the spacing between letters isn't exactly right in kde 4.8?
[23:31] <hellslinger> in the titlebar that is
[23:32] <hellslinger> it's as if font rendering for the window decorations is different from the rest of the controls...