| bac | morning gmb | 10:55 |
|---|---|---|
| gmb | Morning bac | 11:15 |
| bac | hey gmb, you are doing all of your work within vmware, correct? precise host? | 11:17 |
| gmb | Yep | 11:17 |
| bac | and there are no longer any problems with lxc? i seem to recall in the early days post-budapest that lxc was unhappy in vmware. | 11:17 |
| gmb | Yeah, it had its moments. At the moment though it's solid as a rock. | 11:18 |
| bac | oh, excellent. i'm trying to winnow down my number of machines. perhaps a new, fast mpb-retina with vmware could replace two older machines | 11:19 |
| * bac is good at rationalizing new purchases | 11:20 | |
| gmb | :) | 11:20 |
| gary_poster | bac benji gmb call in 2 in our reserved hangout | 12:08 |
| gmb | k | 12:08 |
| * gmb -> lunch | 12:43 | |
| gary_poster | bac, I need to go take care of some cats for some neighbors for 10 or 15 minutes and then will be back and ready to pair | 13:01 |
| bac | ugh, cats | 13:02 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 13:02 |
| benji | I couldn't remember if we have a short URL for the hangout so I made this one: http://tinyurl.com/yellow-hangout | 13:16 |
| gary_poster | benji, yeah, I sent an email out to everyone last week. tinyurl.com/yellowsquad works | 13:25 |
| gary_poster | bac I'm in yellowsquad and ready whenever you are | 13:25 |
| gary_poster | bac, you dropped out | 14:57 |
| bac | ok | 14:57 |
| gary_poster | gmb you around? If so, could you join us briefly in http://tinyurl.com/yellowsquad please? | 15:03 |
| gmb | Sure. Bear with me a sec... | 15:04 |
| gary_poster | benji, hey. We just ran into the fact that inithost should install apache2 and apache2.2-common | 15:30 |
| gary_poster | are you fixing that? | 15:30 |
| gary_poster | in which case we'll just leave it? | 15:30 |
| benji | gary_poster: yep, as we speak | 15:30 |
| gary_poster | cool, we'll leave it alone then thanks benji | 15:30 |
| benji | if this tests run is successful I will be merging soon | 15:31 |
| gary_poster | excellent | 15:32 |
| benji | Tarmac! I love you. (Even though you point out that I'm a dufus and forgot to run pocketlint.) | 16:15 |
| gary_poster | benji, btw, lpsetup has some instances of running ssh non-interactively. If you haven't investigated them already, they might be worth a look for the future. | 16:16 |
| benji | gary_poster: right, but it gets to pass command-line arguments; juju doesn't have such a channel (or I'm misunderstanding you) | 16:17 |
| gary_poster | benji, really? I know ssh -A works. It's not a generic pass-through? | 16:18 |
| gary_poster | that's a shame | 16:18 |
| benji | gary_poster: I'm doing "juju ssh 1 ..." which (as far as I know) doesn't allow you to pass -o options through to ssh | 16:19 |
| gary_poster | benji, this does not complain: | 16:23 |
| gary_poster | juju ssh -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' 2 | 16:23 |
| gary_poster | not clear that it does what I expect yet though | 16:23 |
| gary_poster | benji confirmed that this does what I expect: | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | juju ssh -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' -o 'UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null' 2 | 16:24 |
| benji | gary_poster: interesting; that sounds like the ticket | 16:25 |
| benji | gary_poster: I added the juju ssh note to the tarmac card | 17:40 |
| benji | gary_poster: after I prepare I need to... talk to bac? | 17:41 |
| * bac is writing merge proposal. will be done soon | 17:41 | |
| gary_poster | benji, bac, I took late lunch and not finished but can come back to talk a bit with you two...and then maybe go back to relaxing just a bit more | 17:43 |
| benji | gary_poster: that would be fine or I can work on getting the integration test more tarmac-compatible (or something else) | 17:46 |
| gary_poster | benji, if you are waiting, why don't you look into that; then, when bac is ready, let's all hang out and figure out what to do | 17:46 |
| benji | +1 | 17:46 |
| * bac is getting close | 17:47 | |
| bac | benji: want to do a review? https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/lpsetup/mv-initialize-lxc/+merge/114239 | 17:59 |
| benji | bac: sure | 17:59 |
| bac | benji: just saw the conflict and have pushed a fix. (it was only a blank line) | 18:12 |
| benji | bac: ok, cool | 18:12 |
| benji | bac: how does one install the pep8 linter? | 18:21 |
| bac | benji: pep8 package. just pep8, not python-pep8 like you'd think | 18:22 |
| benji | that's where I went wrong | 18:22 |
| bac | benji: yep, me too | 18:22 |
| benji | I'll add a note to the README next to where it says how to get pocketlint. | 18:22 |
| bac | good idea | 18:23 |
| gary_poster | benji, btw, I had an interesting viewpoint clash between your interest in ROWE and the subtitle of the Poppendieck's most recent book (http://www.amazon.com/Leading-Lean-Software-Development-ebook/dp/B002Y1U7VU/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2): Leading Lean Software Development: Results Are not the Point | 18:29 |
| benji | heh, that's funny | 18:30 |
| benji | bac: sorry, I had a junk yard call me about my car, here are a couple small things I found: https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/lpsetup/mv-initialize-lxc/+merge/114239 | 18:47 |
| bac | thanks benji. | 18:49 |
| bac | benji: would you vote on that MP please? | 19:14 |
| benji | bac: done | 19:15 |
| bac | thx | 19:15 |
| bac | weird. if i use the 'ignore-files' option for nosetests it does the right thing then complains about the version of distribute i have installed. seems orthogonal on the face. | 19:36 |
| bac | by 'complains' i mean failes pre-commit.sh | 19:36 |
| gary_poster | means nothing to me :-/ | 19:40 |
| bac | as a work-around i renamed the files to disabled_ *and* set the execute bit | 19:41 |
| gary_poster | :-/ | 19:41 |
| gary_poster | oh well, hopefully we will fix it soon | 19:41 |
| bac | gary_poster: you free to chat soon? | 19:43 |
| gary_poster | bac, actually, I will be free to chat only until 4. My call with Francis is today | 19:43 |
| bac | well that might be enough | 19:44 |
| bac | i have some quick questions | 19:44 |
| bac | quick, to the bat channel | 19:44 |
| gary_poster | :-) k | 19:44 |
| benji | yay! I got a totally prompt-less integration test run working. | 19:50 |
| benji | It did require .ssh/config hacking, but it's not too bad | 19:50 |
| * benji realizes that there is no (exact fit) card for this, and there wouldn't be room for it in the active lane if there were. | 19:51 | |
| gary_poster | benji, great. There's room now | 20:00 |
| gary_poster | make a card :-) | 20:01 |
| benji | gary_poster: I may have to take Wednesday off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVEPvXBEOSE | 20:08 |
| benji | bac or gary_poster: new MP for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/lpsetup/more-tarmac-friendly/+merge/114263 | 20:09 |
| gary_poster | benji on call | 20:09 |
| benji | k | 20:10 |
| benji | bac: is there anything I can do pair-wise with you? | 20:36 |
| gary_poster | bac is off till tomorrow benji | 20:39 |
| benji | gary_poster: ah; are you done with your call? | 20:39 |
| gary_poster | benji, no :-P | 20:39 |
| benji | k | 20:39 |
| gary_poster | benji, just got off call :-P | 21:03 |
| gary_poster | I assume you need to go? | 21:04 |
| gary_poster | I do :-) | 21:04 |
| benji | gary_poster: oddly enough, I don't today, but I'll let you go anyway | 21:04 |
| gary_poster | benji :-) ok. youtube is hilarious | 21:06 |
| benji | it is, isn't it | 21:06 |
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