[00:04] <mmc_> i have a question about installing lubuntu... what is the minimum hard drive space needed?
[00:06] <kanliot> if you use the alternate installer its 2 or 3 G i forget
[00:06] <kanliot> if you use the minimal it's lower than that
[00:06] <mmc_> i have a dell  netbook and i am trying to find a distro that will run on it
[00:06] <mmc_> it has a 2.5g hd
[00:07] <mmc_> i used to run ubuntu NBR but....
[00:07] <wxl> yikes dude that is rough
[00:07] <wxl> you might want to put it on a stick
[00:07] <kanliot> not a stick
[00:07] <wxl> why for not?
[00:07] <kanliot> slow
[00:07]  * wxl shrugs
[00:07] <mmc_> i have an 8g sd card in the card reader... but i don
[00:07] <wxl> i'm pretty sure you need more than 2.5g
[00:07] <mmc_> t think i want to run off of that
[00:07] <wxl> so nothing < slow
[00:08] <wxl> the number i had in mind was 4g but i could be wrong
[00:08] <mmc_> im using a knoppix stick right now... im just trying to avoid having the usb stick poking out the side of the netbook all the time
[00:08] <wxl> check this: a 2.7g rarity https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/11.04MinimalDiskSpace
[00:09] <wxl> that being said, 2.5 is unlikely
[00:09] <mmc_> yeah.... the wife keeps suggesting going back to XP
[00:09] <mmc_> *shudders
[00:10] <wxl> ew
[00:10] <wxl> i'd sooner use no gui
[00:10] <mmc_> think i could boot from the hd but run off the sd card?
[00:10] <Unit193> If you know what you're doing well enough, could just use a 12.04 mini and just install a base system with openbox or something.
[00:10] <wxl> for that matter you could make your own linux ;)
[00:11] <wxl> you can put partitions wherever you want mmc_
[00:11] <mmc_> i have 3 kids, two under 2... i don
[00:11] <mmc_> t have time to make my own
[00:11] <mmc_> lol
[00:12] <mmc_> hrm.... might try installing 11.04 server and then openbox on top...
[00:12] <mmc_> or...
[00:12] <mmc_> idk
[00:12] <Unit193> !mini
[00:13] <kanliot> i just checked the lubuntu-core package uses 664 MB on top of a server install
[00:13] <kanliot> so it should fit
[00:13] <mmc_> so... that
[00:13] <mmc_> might work
[00:13] <mmc_> *grrr at this small keyboard
[00:13] <kanliot> plug in a usb keyboard?
[00:14] <mmc_> (the enter key is where the apostrophe should be..'.'
[00:14] <mmc_> good idea
[00:14] <mmc_> well... thanks for the thoughts everyone... cheers
[00:15] <kanliot> hmm i wonder if it will fit
[00:15] <kanliot> i bet it wont
[00:15] <wxl> one way to find out
[00:15] <wxl> it's not like it will wipe the existing os given it's on a usb ;)
[00:29] <ttyandroid> Hi all
[02:05] <lubuntuHDD> can fsck be run on an entire disk?
[02:06] <hpuser89479> I installed ubuntu with LXDE desktop.  When I reboot it says "lubuntu".
[02:07] <hpuser89479> When I installed "gpointing-device-settings" from apt-get, it doesn't show up in the menu because it's .desktop file needs fixing the category line.
[02:08] <hpuser89479> gpointing-device-settings is used to configure touch pads.   It's .desktop file in /usr/share/applications needs to be fixed.  just saying..
[08:33] <snikker> in which file "fce4-power-manager-settings" save settings?
[10:43] <jerli> hi
[13:45] <smile> bye
[15:36] <smile> hi :)
[15:47] <Hexeon> hello peep
[15:51] <semitones> Hello -- I was on here earlier as lubuntuHDD
[15:51] <semitones> I think I found a problem with the live cd
[16:00] <semitones> I don't mean livecd I mean alternate cd
[16:01] <semitones> 1. I tried installing with a CD, and the drive would eject randomly during file copies, so I made a USB version
[16:01] <holstein> semitones: the iso is the same? did you comfirm it?
[16:01] <holstein> !md5
[16:03] <semitones> 2. That would also fail at random points (red screen indicating a package could not be installed), so i eventually checked the USB for errors -- it had an error here: ./install/netboot/non-pae/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file
[16:03] <semitones> holstein: that's where it gets interesting -- once I found that, I checked my iso with md5sum - it matched the text file perfectly
[16:04] <semitones> holstein: so I recreated the bootable USB, checked for errors, and it found the same problem
[16:09]  * semitones tries checking cd-rom integrity of the first cd rom to see if the corrupt file is the same there
[16:09] <semitones> Do I need to start a forum thread or a bug report
[16:32] <semitones> It just finished checking the CD -- this time /.dists/precise/RElease.gpg failed at the same time as the cd rom ejected... is that normal behavior?
[16:33] <semitones> I'm going to try testing them in a different computer, to see if it might be the computer that is checksumming wrong
[16:33] <semitones> or more likely reding the media badly
[16:37] <holstein> semitones: if you downloaded the iso, and its passing the test, then id say the error is in the method by which you are creating the media
[16:38] <holstein> trying a different box is a good test i think... hope its not bad memory
[16:39] <semitones> holstein: memtest was clean -- I don't know what it could be, but I'll see if the other box confirms the errors
[16:39] <semitones> it seems unlikely that the cd and the usb both made from a clean iso would have two separate errors
[17:07] <holstein> semitones: thats true...
[17:11] <superkuh> Speaking of errors with install isos...
[17:11] <superkuh> The .torrent for the alternate install actually downloads the iso for the desktop install.
[17:12] <Unit193> holstein: I think I've seen the above statement a couple times, would they contact rt@ubuntu then?
[17:15] <superkuh> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent actually downloads "lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[17:15] <superkuh> Not just a renaming issue; it really is the desktop install iso.
[17:18] <Unit193> info hash.....: 5891f43cc9409bacad2cb656b3fe238e09eb8cf8   and the infohash I have in deluge is 5891f43cc9409bacad2cb656b3fe238e09eb8cf8 for the alt 32bit.
[17:21] <Unit193> superkuh: What's the md5 of that file?
[17:22] <superkuh> 0fc9564b8fde8ff56100c3d7814fa884  lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[17:22] <superkuh> 688MB, not 681, etc.
[17:23] <superkuh> Hm. This does seem unrealistic.
[17:23] <superkuh> Surely an error on my part somewhere.
[17:24] <semitones> superkuh: that's funny -- the one I got is the alternate cd -- i used the torrent
[17:24] <Unit193> I have both files, but I already had the daily, so zsynced the rest to complete and start seeding.  I have the correct file with that infohash.
[17:25] <Unit193> Someone got the desktop CD with the alt 64bit as well though.
[17:25] <superkuh> Okay. I must be confused then.
[17:25] <superkuh> I eventually ended up using the netboot with pxe instead of the isos anyway. The disc drive on the machine was borked.
[17:26] <semitones> Ok, so the CD I tested on the other box was ok, but the USB failed the same place -- "Startup Creator" must have a bug since it is corrupting a file
[17:26] <semitones> i'm going to try the CD one more time (sometimes it ejects randomly during installation)
[17:26] <Unit193> Meh, I always use unetbootin.
[17:26] <semitones> i might have to also
[17:48] <holstein> Unit193: im with you on where you think semitones should contact
[17:49] <leszek> hi
[17:49] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:14] <Hexeon> I installed Lubuntu but there's no browser!!
[22:15] <Hexeon> oh there's chrome
[22:15] <holstein> Hexeon: the ubuntu repos are there for you to install what you like
[22:16] <Unit193> Chromium is actually a browser, though not my favorite.  If you need more lightweight, you can try xxxterm, but it isn't as easy for newer people.
[22:17] <Hexeon> Lubuntu looks a lot like windows XP. It starts with a blue background, and has clock on the lower right hand corner
[22:18] <holstein> well, they are similar in layout and look/feel.. you can theme it however you like
[22:23] <Hexeon> but the color is like, a dull blue. not bright blue. it looks used. they should use bright blue *sigh*
[22:26] <Unit193> You can change the background/color to whatever you want, don't have to use defaults.
[22:38] <Hexeon> how do I get into root? su asks me for a password but it never prompted me for a root password during installation
[22:40] <Unit193> You don't, you use sudo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:42] <Hexeon> !! why's it locked? I can't change the password then. does ubuntu hold all of our root password??
[22:42] <Unit193> I see you didn't read that.
[22:42] <wxl> Hexeon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[22:43] <wxl> read that. it's only a couple paragraphs. you can do it.
[22:43] <Hexeon> oh cool
[22:43] <wxl> hoepfully the warnings are evident
[22:44]  * wxl has NEVER had to use root.
[22:44] <Hexeon> oh I am root now
[22:45] <wxl> now all you need to do is a rm -rf / and you'll be set
[22:45]  * wxl IS KIDDING in case that's not obvious
[22:45] <Hexeon> oh okay. almost did it
[22:46] <wxl> if you're serious, you should not be root.
[22:46] <Hexeon> I was kidding
[22:47] <Hexeon> afk