[00:04] i have a question about installing lubuntu... what is the minimum hard drive space needed? [00:06] if you use the alternate installer its 2 or 3 G i forget [00:06] if you use the minimal it's lower than that [00:06] i have a dell netbook and i am trying to find a distro that will run on it [00:06] it has a 2.5g hd [00:07] i used to run ubuntu NBR but.... [00:07] yikes dude that is rough [00:07] you might want to put it on a stick [00:07] not a stick [00:07] why for not? [00:07] slow [00:07] * wxl shrugs [00:07] i have an 8g sd card in the card reader... but i don [00:07] i'm pretty sure you need more than 2.5g [00:07] t think i want to run off of that [00:07] so nothing < slow [00:08] the number i had in mind was 4g but i could be wrong [00:08] im using a knoppix stick right now... im just trying to avoid having the usb stick poking out the side of the netbook all the time [00:08] check this: a 2.7g rarity https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/11.04MinimalDiskSpace [00:09] that being said, 2.5 is unlikely [00:09] yeah.... the wife keeps suggesting going back to XP [00:09] *shudders [00:10] ew [00:10] i'd sooner use no gui [00:10] think i could boot from the hd but run off the sd card? [00:10] If you know what you're doing well enough, could just use a 12.04 mini and just install a base system with openbox or something. [00:10] for that matter you could make your own linux ;) [00:11] you can put partitions wherever you want mmc_ [00:11] i have 3 kids, two under 2... i don [00:11] t have time to make my own [00:11] lol [00:12] hrm.... might try installing 11.04 server and then openbox on top... [00:12] or... [00:12] idk [00:12] !mini [00:12] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:13] i just checked the lubuntu-core package uses 664 MB on top of a server install [00:13] so it should fit [00:13] so... that [00:13] might work [00:13] *grrr at this small keyboard [00:13] plug in a usb keyboard? [00:14] (the enter key is where the apostrophe should be..'.' [00:14] good idea [00:14] well... thanks for the thoughts everyone... cheers [00:15] hmm i wonder if it will fit [00:15] i bet it wont [00:15] one way to find out [00:15] it's not like it will wipe the existing os given it's on a usb ;) [00:29] Hi all [02:05] can fsck be run on an entire disk? [02:06] I installed ubuntu with LXDE desktop. When I reboot it says "lubuntu". [02:07] When I installed "gpointing-device-settings" from apt-get, it doesn't show up in the menu because it's .desktop file needs fixing the category line. [02:08] gpointing-device-settings is used to configure touch pads. It's .desktop file in /usr/share/applications needs to be fixed. just saying.. [08:33] in which file "fce4-power-manager-settings" save settings? [10:43] hi [13:45] bye === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguy [15:36] hi :) [15:47] hello peep [15:51] Hello -- I was on here earlier as lubuntuHDD [15:51] I think I found a problem with the live cd [16:00] I don't mean livecd I mean alternate cd [16:01] 1. I tried installing with a CD, and the drive would eject randomly during file copies, so I made a USB version [16:01] semitones: the iso is the same? did you comfirm it? [16:01] !md5 [16:01] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [16:03] 2. That would also fail at random points (red screen indicating a package could not be installed), so i eventually checked the USB for errors -- it had an error here: ./install/netboot/non-pae/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file [16:03] holstein: that's where it gets interesting -- once I found that, I checked my iso with md5sum - it matched the text file perfectly [16:04] holstein: so I recreated the bootable USB, checked for errors, and it found the same problem [16:09] * semitones tries checking cd-rom integrity of the first cd rom to see if the corrupt file is the same there [16:09] Do I need to start a forum thread or a bug report [16:32] It just finished checking the CD -- this time /.dists/precise/RElease.gpg failed at the same time as the cd rom ejected... is that normal behavior? [16:33] I'm going to try testing them in a different computer, to see if it might be the computer that is checksumming wrong [16:33] or more likely reding the media badly [16:37] semitones: if you downloaded the iso, and its passing the test, then id say the error is in the method by which you are creating the media [16:38] trying a different box is a good test i think... hope its not bad memory [16:39] holstein: memtest was clean -- I don't know what it could be, but I'll see if the other box confirms the errors [16:39] it seems unlikely that the cd and the usb both made from a clean iso would have two separate errors [17:07] semitones: thats true... [17:11] Speaking of errors with install isos... [17:11] The .torrent for the alternate install actually downloads the iso for the desktop install. [17:12] holstein: I think I've seen the above statement a couple times, would they contact rt@ubuntu then? [17:15] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent actually downloads "lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso" [17:15] Not just a renaming issue; it really is the desktop install iso. [17:18] info hash.....: 5891f43cc9409bacad2cb656b3fe238e09eb8cf8 and the infohash I have in deluge is 5891f43cc9409bacad2cb656b3fe238e09eb8cf8 for the alt 32bit. [17:21] superkuh: What's the md5 of that file? [17:22] 0fc9564b8fde8ff56100c3d7814fa884 lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [17:22] 688MB, not 681, etc. [17:23] Hm. This does seem unrealistic. [17:23] Surely an error on my part somewhere. [17:24] superkuh: that's funny -- the one I got is the alternate cd -- i used the torrent [17:24] I have both files, but I already had the daily, so zsynced the rest to complete and start seeding. I have the correct file with that infohash. [17:25] Someone got the desktop CD with the alt 64bit as well though. [17:25] Okay. I must be confused then. [17:25] I eventually ended up using the netboot with pxe instead of the isos anyway. The disc drive on the machine was borked. [17:26] Ok, so the CD I tested on the other box was ok, but the USB failed the same place -- "Startup Creator" must have a bug since it is corrupting a file [17:26] i'm going to try the CD one more time (sometimes it ejects randomly during installation) [17:26] Meh, I always use unetbootin. [17:26] i might have to also [17:48] Unit193: im with you on where you think semitones should contact [17:49] hi [17:49] Howdy. [22:14] I installed Lubuntu but there's no browser!! [22:15] oh there's chrome [22:15] Hexeon: the ubuntu repos are there for you to install what you like [22:16] Chromium is actually a browser, though not my favorite. If you need more lightweight, you can try xxxterm, but it isn't as easy for newer people. [22:17] Lubuntu looks a lot like windows XP. It starts with a blue background, and has clock on the lower right hand corner [22:18] well, they are similar in layout and look/feel.. you can theme it however you like [22:23] but the color is like, a dull blue. not bright blue. it looks used. they should use bright blue *sigh* [22:26] You can change the background/color to whatever you want, don't have to use defaults. [22:38] how do I get into root? su asks me for a password but it never prompted me for a root password during installation [22:40] You don't, you use sudo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [22:42] !! why's it locked? I can't change the password then. does ubuntu hold all of our root password?? [22:42] Hexeon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [22:42] I see you didn't read that. [22:42] Hexeon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account [22:43] read that. it's only a couple paragraphs. you can do it. [22:43] oh cool [22:43] hoepfully the warnings are evident [22:44] * wxl has NEVER had to use root. [22:44] oh I am root now [22:45] now all you need to do is a rm -rf / and you'll be set [22:45] * wxl IS KIDDING in case that's not obvious [22:45] oh okay. almost did it [22:46] if you're serious, you should not be root. [22:46] I was kidding [22:47] afk