[03:37] <johnjohn1011> is ubuntu really losing compiz?  what's it going to be replaced with?
[03:39] <jbicha> johnjohn1011: no
[03:41] <johnjohn1011>  ok, I thought it was. must have been a bad article i read a while back.
[03:44] <Daekdroom> Could be a bad memory (probably both)
[03:44] <johnjohn1011> so it looks like everyone is dropping comiz. is unity going to survive?
[03:45] <johnjohn1011> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402
[03:45] <jbicha> unity's far from dead...
[03:45] <johnjohn1011> i used my brother's gnome 2 and it was awful.
[03:45] <Daekdroom> I think it's fairly plausible that Compiz is going to exist as long as Unity needs it.
[03:46] <johnjohn1011> looks like to me compiz made some huge strides lately.  much more stable.
[03:46] <Daekdroom> Skimming over the article tells me that whoever wrote it holds a strong grudge against Unity, and therefore disregard it as a reason for compiz to continue.
[03:47] <johnjohn1011> I think unity is much better than gnome 2
[03:47] <johnjohn1011> not sure why all the hatred
[03:47] <johnjohn1011> do you guys think it would be possible to bring back the snow plugin?
[03:48] <Daekdroom> Was there any change in design lately that did not bring hatred?
[03:48] <Daekdroom> Windows 7 excluded, but it wasn't a huge overhaul.
[03:48] <Daekdroom> Since KDE4, everything's had poor reception.
[03:49] <dax> Basically all that article says is that other distros are dropping compiz. Well of course they are, they use upstream GNOME 3, which doesn't use Compiz.
[03:49] <Daekdroom> Also, compiz dropped KDE compatibility.
[03:49] <johnjohn1011> so it's a marriage made in heaven!!
[03:49] <dax> Not much of a loss, kwin's pretty awesome.
[03:49] <johnjohn1011> i really didn't expect to see how old and outdated gnome 2 was after being away from it for six months
[03:50] <dax> "And the rumors were abounding that Unity was migrating to Mutter" => 1) no they weren't 2) even if they were, that's ridiculous. Unity used to use mutter and switched away from it, for rather good reasons.
[03:54] <johnjohn1011> not that I would switch but are there any other distros running unity at all?
[03:56] <dax> none that I know of
[05:56] <iceroot> any known bugs at the moment about "network manager not working anymore" and "not possible to detect the correct resolution? cant find anything on LP but on my pc about that issues...
[06:30]  * jokerdino pokes the room.
[10:25] <mwozniak00> Hi, i have litle problem
[10:25] <jokerdino> hi
[10:25] <jokerdino> what's up?
[10:25] <mwozniak00> when i wana upgrade unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-music
[10:25] <MrChrisDruif> jokerdino; ceiling
[10:26] <jokerdino> MrChrisDruif: ...
[10:26] <mwozniak00> the apt-get wana remove unity and ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <jokerdino> it's a cliche man :/
[10:26] <MrChrisDruif> =)
[10:27] <jokerdino> mwozniak00: 12.10?
[10:27] <mwozniak00> it's ok or something wrong ?
[10:27] <mwozniak00> jokerdino: yee it's 12.10
[10:27] <jokerdino> ok, do you have a forum link or something?
[10:28] <mwozniak00> so wrtite this problem on ubuntu forum
[10:28] <mwozniak00> ?
[10:28] <jokerdino> nah. i was asking if you do.
[10:28] <jokerdino> no big deal
[10:29] <jokerdino> what is your current lens version?
[10:29] <mwozniak00> no now i only ask of this on irc
[10:30] <mwozniak00> now i have unity-lens-applications 5.12.0-0ubuntu1
[10:30] <jokerdino> same here.
[10:30] <jokerdino> i haven't seen a later version
[10:32] <mwozniak00> http://wklej.se/f276
[10:33] <jokerdino> i see
[10:34] <mwozniak00> so when i wana upgrade system the linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-music is stoped, but if i wana manualy upgrade few package of it the system wana remove unity
[10:35] <mwozniak00> http://wklej.se/6e77
[10:36] <mwozniak00> sorry fr the polish language on console ;)
[10:36] <jokerdino> i don't mind :0
[10:36] <MCR> mwozniak00: solution for the problem is to wait with the unity* upgrades
[10:37] <jokerdino> that's probably why it is sitting outside i guess.
[10:39] <mwozniak00> that is, I is not nothing more than wait
[10:41] <jokerdino> mwozniak00: wait until the packages finish building, etc
[10:44] <mwozniak00> so i know whay when i have http://www.wrzucaj.com/495510 and put partial upgrade that software upgrader close...
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:24] <jokerdino> anyone have link to bug report for indicator-sound being white?
[16:08] <clanlaw> Hi, is there a schedule for when Unity will be working with non-3d graphics h/w? I am keen to test it.
[21:45] <boshco> hello
[21:46] <boshco> i have a trouble with my graphic card nvidia 6200 PCI  on ubuntu 10.10
[21:46] <boshco> who can help me?
[21:47] <Daekdroom> boshco, 10.10 support is available at #ubuntu
[21:47] <Daekdroom> Hm.
[21:47] <Daekdroom> !maverick
[21:47] <Daekdroom> Actually, it's reached its End of Life, which means you won't get help for it at #ubuntu either.
[21:47] <boshco> but #ubuntu is off
[21:47] <Daekdroom> It's not.
[21:49] <boshco> Ok hx
[21:49] <boshco> thx
[22:17] <LLStarks> what's the proper way to build wine in ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:19] <IdleOne> LLStarks: you don't need to build it. install with apt-get or use the software centre
[22:20] <IdleOne> also please don't crosspost
[22:29] <LLStarks> IdleOne, that's very rude
[22:29] <LLStarks> i'm asking to BUILD
[22:30] <LLStarks> and it's currently impossible without trickery that i can't remember
[22:36] <IdleOne> What exactly did I say that you found rude?
[22:38] <LLStarks> i ask to build, you say lol install it
[22:39] <micahg> LLStarks: a 32 bit chroot should work fine
[22:39] <IdleOne>      I didn't say lol
[22:40] <IdleOne> maybe you read it that way, and had you been a little more clear on what you were wanting to do I may have been able to answer you properly.
[22:40] <LLStarks> micahg, what if i want both 32-bit and 64-bit
[22:40] <micahg> LLStarks: to build? I would suggest chroots for both
[22:40] <LLStarks> i just want to patch the shipped version
[22:40] <LLStarks> a single line of code
[22:41] <micahg> LLStarks: is there a bug we should be fixing instead?
[22:41] <LLStarks> it's a wine bug
[22:41] <LLStarks> but i can't patch it
[22:41] <micahg> but you said you have a one line patch...
[22:41] <LLStarks> not one line
[22:41] <LLStarks> i was exaggerating
[22:41] <LLStarks> but it's small
[22:42] <LLStarks> and i'm trying to test the patch
[22:42] <LLStarks> no way to do it
[22:42] <LLStarks> because multilib is still broken
[22:42] <micahg> ah, ok, yeah, chroots would be a good way to build that (we build the i386 parts on i386 and the amd64 parts on amd64 now)
[22:43] <micahg> or pbuilder or sbuild or your other favorite chroot manipulator should work fine
[22:43] <LLStarks> well, the patch i'm looking at solves wine-wide fps issues
[22:43] <LLStarks> but it hasn't landed upstream
[22:44] <LLStarks> i have to use 1.3.37 or a patched upstream to get around it
[22:44] <micahg> hrm?  we have 1.4 in both 12.04 and 12.10
[22:44] <LLStarks> both are bugged
[22:45] <micahg> but 1.3.x has a fix, doesn't sound right
[22:45] <micahg> it was a regression in the release version?
[22:45] <LLStarks> http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/commit/bd97589dbac60d1ed78ed1e49cf6ce6cee8c40b7
[22:45] <LLStarks> regression
[22:45] <micahg> ok, well, have fun :)
[22:46] <LLStarks> 1.3.37 was last unaffected