| infinity | dobey: Same version is fine. | 00:05 |
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| infinity | dobey: I'll reject your old one now. | 00:06 |
| infinity | dobey: If I can remember why I was making you re-do it... | 00:07 |
| infinity | dobey: Oh, right, cause you missed integrating old changelog entries. Yeah, I'll just reject your old one, feel free to re-use the version. | 00:08 |
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| micahg | RAOF: wait, so, you weren't aware the integration was broken or you were? comment 38 says no integration but no crash, comment 43 is when it was accepted | 01:26 |
| BenC | zul: Any reason things like glance are i386 only? | 01:32 |
| zul | BenC: no | 01:32 |
| zul | BenC: please open up a bug about it | 01:33 |
| BenC | zul: Any pushback to me just uploading with powerpc,amd64 added? | 01:33 |
| zul | BenC: yeah can you do a merge prop against lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/glance/folsom please | 01:34 |
| BenC | Err, but it is then :) | 01:34 |
| BenC | *bug | 01:34 |
| StevenK | BenC: As a thought, have you checked P-a-s? | 01:34 |
| BenC | p-a-s? | 01:34 |
| StevenK | BenC: Packages-arch-specific | 01:34 |
| BenC | What is that? | 01:35 |
| BenC | StevenK: I at least know that glance works on powerpc | 01:35 |
| micahg | not on p-a-s | 01:35 |
| StevenK | BenC: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/packages-arch-specific/ubuntu/view/head:/Packages-arch-specific | 01:36 |
| BenC | Excellent, keystone, glance and node-* isn't on there | 01:38 |
| micahg | infinity: I take it you didn't see bug 1022475? | 01:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1022475 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Sync packagekit 0.7.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022475 | 01:39 |
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| BenC | zul: here's a bit of info…it only builds on i386 because it's Arch: all | 01:48 |
| BenC | silly me | 01:48 |
| StevenK | Haha | 01:54 |
| micahg | BenC: not everything is like Firefox/Thunderbird and makes arch:all stuff arch:any for almost no reason :) | 01:55 |
| RAOF | micahg: Ah, you're right. I don't recall parsing comment 38 to mean “no integration”. If I had, I would have asked whether it could be fixed. | 03:27 |
| pitti | Good morning | 03:27 |
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| RAOF | This is an SRU team PSA: uploading your source to lucid-proposed twice does not make it faster to accept. Thank you ☺ | 04:23 |
| ScottK | Grumpy new SRU guy adds: "If it causes me to be confused, I'll probably just reject them both and let you sort it out." | 04:29 |
| elky | + "Thank you. Come again." ? | 04:39 |
| nigelb | we really need bash.ubuntu.org. | 04:51 |
| StevenK | nigelb: You still want a bash for #launchpad-dev | 04:54 |
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| nigelb | StevenK: I do. | 05:22 |
| nigelb | StevenK: If my server could take the load, I'd install chirpy on it. | 05:23 |
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| TheMuso | Where as apt-add-repository gone? If its been completely removed, what should I be using to add PPAs on the command-line instead? THis is on quantal. | 05:52 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: add-apt-repository | 05:54 |
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| * TheMuso slaps himself. Of course, I had things the wrong way around, thanks StevenK. | 06:03 | |
| pitti | the fun thing is that software-properties even provided a symlink for apt-add-repository, but apparently stopped doing so | 06:48 |
| lifeless | doooh | 06:49 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:56 |
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| TheMuso | pitti: Ah so I may have been correct in the first place, and I didn't even think of checking to see if there were other forms like add-apt-repository. | 07:08 |
| * RAOF has always used add-apt-repository | 07:10 | |
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| lifeless | IIRC add-appt-repository was first and I and others filed bugs pointing out that apt-add-repository was more consistent | 07:31 |
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| jamespage | Q: is it acceptable for package a to stop and disable a daemon from package b? package a needs the binary but takes direct control of it | 08:10 |
| jamespage | I could do a split and have a -common and -daemon package but I'd like to keep compatible with 12.04 | 08:10 |
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| maxb | It sounds more than a bit odd, but I don't recall reading an explicit prohibition, so I guess it would fall under general rules of good judgement... what packages, ooi? | 08:19 |
| jamespage | maxb, I'm packaging a network emulator called mininet that makes use of the openvswitch controller | 08:21 |
| jamespage | however it takes direct control of the binary rather than using the controller that gets automatically started on install of openvswitch-controller | 08:22 |
| maxb | sounds a bit evil :-) | 08:22 |
| maxb | unfortunately I've not used either, or anything similar, so I can't usefully comment further | 08:23 |
| Roj | hi when i use quickly sabmitubuntu package send to lanchpade but bulder.py and helper.py and window.py in my project file not attache to it and get error in build http://pastebin.com/7dCut96j | 08:30 |
| cjwatson | pitti: oh, I might have removed that symlink by accident | 08:33 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, totally my fault, sorry, I'll put that back | 08:34 |
| pitti | ah, thanks :) | 08:34 |
| cjwatson | It turns out that "usr/bin/add-apt-repository usr/bin/apt-add-repository" is actually really hard to parse by eye | 08:35 |
| pitti | I guess that's also the reason why the symlink exists in the first place | 08:35 |
| * pitti mutters "udev-udeb" | 08:35 | |
| cjwatson | OTOH "usr/share/man/man1/add-apt-repository.1.gz usr/share/man/man1/add-apt-repository.1.gz" was wrong ... | 08:35 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ^ consider it consolation that you aren't the only one :) | 08:38 |
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| Daviey | Is someone looking at bug 1020229 .. looks like a Breaks/Replaces issue. | 10:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1020229 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "package python3-distupgrade (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/__init__.py', which is also in package python3-update-manager 1:0.164" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020229 | 10:24 |
| cjwatson | Daviey: on it | 10:28 |
| Daviey | cjwatson: super. | 10:41 |
| cjwatson | Daviey: uploaded now | 11:01 |
| Daviey | \o/ | 11:04 |
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| brendand | does anyone know the minimum set of packages needed to play a flash video in firefox? | 12:19 |
| brendand | in a basic precise install i add flashplugin-installer | 12:19 |
| brendand | but then when i try to open a flash video in firefox it complains about sorenson spark codec | 12:19 |
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| micahg | infinity: sorry, just realized, you just did the AA copy for packagekit, so disregard | 13:41 |
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| micahg | mterry: is there a reason why you're switching some things to have a new diff with Debian on libtiff5-dev? | 13:54 |
| barry | pitti: have you looked at all at upgrading dbus to 1.6.2-2? we're quite behind. i spend a little time on it yesterday (in between all the tech issues i was having ;) and the merge is not straightforward. i could fix various issues in debian/ but the upstart integration patches are more problematic. i was going to ping jodh to see what he thought, but he's not around right now. i'm not eager to spend a ton of time on that right now, | 13:54 |
| barry | but might make it a background task, if we think it's worth it | 13:54 |
| mterry | micahg, just switching main packages to libtiff5 rather than libtiff4 | 13:55 |
| micahg | mterry: are we actually planning to drop libtiff4 from main for quantal then? | 13:55 |
| mterry | micahg, I think it would be nice to | 13:56 |
| micahg | mterry: ok, thanks | 13:57 |
| mterry | And obviously, I'm passing the tiny patches on to Debian, hopefully the delta is a one cycle thing | 13:58 |
| * Laney thinks micahg would be interested in hanging out in #ubuntu+1-maint | 13:58 | |
| micahg | Laney: there's a channel? I was told last cycle there wasn't one :-/ | 13:58 |
| Laney | pretty sure it was there last cycle | 13:58 |
| micahg | Laney: thanks | 13:59 |
| seb128 | there was on last cycle for pretty sure, I remember asking if there was really enough discussions to justify taking it of #ubuntu-devel | 14:01 |
| ScottK | barry: Is system-config-printer on the python3 porting list? | 14:14 |
| barry | ScottK: yep, but afaict not yet started | 14:15 |
| ScottK | barry: system-config-printer-kde is a separate source. It probably needs to be ported in tandem. | 14:16 |
| barry | ScottK: is it dependent on system-config-printer-{udev,common,gnome}? | 14:16 |
| ScottK | Yes (common) | 14:17 |
| ScottK | that or the port needs to work with both 2.7 and 3.2 unmodified as system-config-printer-kde uses symlinks to code in common to run. | 14:17 |
| * barry nods | 14:17 | |
| ScottK | When the time comes, I'm willing to help with that. | 14:18 |
| ScottK | Just let me know. | 14:18 |
| barry | ScottK: great, thanks | 14:18 |
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| zul | is there someone on the MIR team around? | 14:28 |
| pitti | barry: I have a dbus 1.5.x merge with Debian in my PPA | 14:36 |
| pitti | barry: but it breaked indicators the last time I looked | 14:36 |
| pitti | barry: I just dropped the integration patches; they were never sent upstream apparently, and we don't use them at all | 14:37 |
| barry | pitti: oh? that would make my 1.6.2 branch much easier to drop the upstart stuff. i wonder if 1.6.x would have any better effect on indicators? | 14:38 |
| pitti | barry: worth a try for sure :) | 14:39 |
| pitti | barry: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2434004/+listing-archive-extra FYI | 14:39 |
| barry | pitti: indeed. :) i'll continue working on it in the background, and submit a mp for your review if i get something decent | 14:39 |
| pitti | barry: there aren't too many changes left, and they are quite simple | 14:39 |
| barry | yep. very nice to be able to drop many patches | 14:39 |
| barry | it would be awesome to eventually get in sync :) | 14:40 |
| pitti | I forgot about this thing TBH | 14:40 |
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| vibhav | Do we really need to mention the update-manager changes in an ubuntu delta? | 15:44 |
| vibhav | update-maintainer* | 15:45 |
| micahg | vibhav: no | 15:45 |
| vibhav | micahg: So should I drop that part while doing a merge? | 15:46 |
| micahg | vibhav: drop what? | 15:46 |
| vibhav | the part saying "Set Ubuntu maintainer" | 15:47 |
| micahg | vibhav: drop from where? | 15:47 |
| vibhav | d/changelog | 15:47 |
| micahg | you don't change an old changelog entry | 15:47 |
| Daviey | vibhav: 'Policy' (meh) specifically states not to mention it. | 15:47 |
| Daviey | micahg: i think he means copy and pasting the old entry to a new stanza, and should he remove that line | 15:48 |
| micahg | if ^^ is the case, then yes :) | 15:48 |
| vibhav | micahg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efibootmgr/0.5.4-2ubuntu1 | 15:48 |
| vibhav | have a look at the changelog | 15:48 |
| micahg | vibhav: that can be sync'd most likely as lpia is gone | 15:49 |
| Daviey | vibhav: that tastes like a sync to me | 15:49 |
| vibhav | yup | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | agreed | 15:50 |
| vibhav | I took as an example though | 15:50 |
| micahg | vibhav: so, you wouldn't include it in a new changelog, but shouldn't modify old ones | 15:51 |
| vibhav | micahg: thanks | 15:52 |
| stokachu | hi, could i get someone to have a look at the following bugs for sponsorship: http://pad.lv/977959 http://pad.lv/977947 | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977947 in libbonobo (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please transition libbonobo to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:52 |
| stokachu | err | 15:53 |
| stokachu | http://pad.lv/977952 http://pad.lv/977947 | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977952 in libbonoboui (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libbonoboui to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:54 |
| stokachu | libonobo* | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977947 in libbonobo (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please transition libbonobo to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:54 |
| vibhav | stokachu: Did you attach a debdiff? | 15:54 |
| stokachu | 977952 has SRU/merge proposal | 15:54 |
| vibhav | stokachu: ah | 15:54 |
| stokachu | 977947 has SRU/debdiff | 15:55 |
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| smoser | RAOF, around? | 16:10 |
| seb128 | smoser, it's middle of the night in .au, I doubt he will be around before some hours | 16:15 |
| smoser | right. thanks. | 16:16 |
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| slangasek | RAOF: bug #754562: the comments from people saying "it doesn't work" after it was in -proposed were apparently speaking about something quite different from the original bug, which was "the program crashes" | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 754562 in LibreOffice Menubar Extension "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_lookup() (Libreoffice with lo-menubar crash from page preview)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754562 | 16:27 |
| slangasek | RAOF: did I miss something? | 16:27 |
| micahg | slangasek: the SRU fixed the crash, but broke lo-menubar | 16:32 |
| slangasek | micahg: ok; that was not my reading of the comments, I interpreted them as a subset of "didn't fix it for me" | 16:32 |
| slangasek | sorry for misunderstanding | 16:32 |
| micahg | the problem is, breaking lo-menubar was in comment #38 before it was accepted, so the whole mess is confusing | 16:33 |
| micahg | i.e. it was known at the time of upload | 16:33 |
| slangasek | ah | 16:33 |
| stokachu | cjwatson, barry : would you guys happen to know what commit contained fix wrt http://pad.lv/979661 comment #21 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 979661 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "oneiric to precise: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome and falls back to Dialog" [Critical,Triaged] | 16:45 |
| dobey | infinity: re-uploaded ubuntuone-client last night; if we could get it and ubuntuone-storage-protocol accepted, that would be awesome | 16:45 |
| barry | stokachu: i don't, sorry | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | stokachu: bug 993190, lp:update-manager r2391.1.3, I think | 16:54 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 993190 could not be found | 16:54 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: thanks ill look into that | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | (might need some bug cleanup ...) | 16:54 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: this is going to be hectic since the switch to python 3 i assume | 17:00 |
| cjwatson | stokachu: shouldn't think so, since that change was originally on a precise-proposed branch | 17:07 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: ah didnt realize 993190 was a private bug | 17:09 |
| stokachu | thats referenced in the -proposed changelog | 17:10 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, I think it's a private counterpart of the public bug you referred to | 17:10 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: so 979661 should be fixed in precise but hasn't been set to fix released? | 17:10 |
| stokachu | i also thought the changelog was supposed to only reference public lp bugs | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | Yes, it is; this was a screwup | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | Looks like it should indeed be fixed in precise-updates, though some verification wouldn't hurt | 17:11 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: so ill add a verification-needed tag? and either myself or gema can test this | 17:12 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: also should i just create a merge proposal to alter the changelog to represent the public lp? | 17:13 |
| stokachu | or is that a quick fix from a different route | 17:13 |
| cjwatson | I'm not sure there's any point to the verification-needed/verification-done system here, since it's already in -updates | 17:14 |
| gema | stokachu: what can I test? | 17:15 |
| gema | stokachu: or should I test? | 17:15 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: ok, as far as getting this issue in the proper state what can i do? | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | I've amended the changelog now, although it's pretty academic | 17:15 |
| stokachu | ok | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | check that it's fixed and close the bug if it is :-) | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | that's about it | 17:15 |
| stokachu | ok, will the janitor pick up this issue and do its thing? | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | no | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | there is no automation to help | 17:16 |
| stokachu | ok so ill just manually set to fix released if tests pass | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | yep | 17:16 |
| stokachu | cjwatson: cool thanks man | 17:16 |
| stokachu | gema: was hoping to get http://pad.lv/979661 closed | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 979661 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "oneiric to precise: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome and falls back to Dialog" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:17 |
| cjwatson | right, best you can do | 17:17 |
| gema | stokachu: ack, I had already forgotten about it | 17:18 |
| stokachu | gema: so we're good i can set to closed? | 17:19 |
| gema | stokachu: if you have verified it and are happy, yes | 17:19 |
| stokachu | gema: i havent done any verification yet :( | 17:19 |
| gema | stokachu: then you cannot close it, if you don't get to it today, I will try to do that tomorrow | 17:20 |
| gema | stokachu: can you send me an email with the details if you need me to do it? I am already off | 17:20 |
| gema | even though still finishing off some stuff | 17:20 |
| stokachu | thats ok ill do it | 17:20 |
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| stokachu | seb128: wrt #7 for http://pad.lv/977940, is the 3rd point necessary since libgnomevfs2-common already conflicts libgnomvfs2-extra is is depended by libgnomevfs2-0? | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 977940 in gnome-vfs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition gnome-vfs to multi-arch" [Medium,In progress] | 18:17 |
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| seb128 | stokachu, what conflicts libgnomevfs2-extra? | 18:47 |
| seb128 | stokachu, libgnomevfs2-extra (<< 1:2.16.3-6) you mean? that's an old version | 18:48 |
| stokachu | seb128: should we bump the version then or do you think we need a conflict added to libgnomevfs2-0 | 18:48 |
| seb128 | stokachu, either way works, just anything which forces you to upgrade both ;-) | 18:51 |
| stokachu | seb128: ok cool thanks :D i modified the other changes you mentioned and verified it according to the debian policy | 18:51 |
| seb128 | stokachu, great, thanks | 18:51 |
| stokachu | seb128: hopefully the next update will have it sorted | 18:51 |
| stokachu | seb128: for clarification would you look at this commit bit.ly/NeGXwi | 19:12 |
| stokachu | seb128: i just told libgnomevfs2-0 to replace libgnomevfs2-common if they exist below the latest precise release | 19:13 |
| micahg | stokachu: you probably want a breaks with that as well, see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces | 19:17 |
| stokachu | micahg: ah nice catch ill add that now | 19:18 |
| stokachu | looks like the depends are already taken care of libgnomevfs2-common (>= ${gnome:Version}), | 19:19 |
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| alazare619 | where can i find the list of minimal and standard packagelist for ubuntu | 19:33 |
| alazare619 | ive tried search http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ | 19:34 |
| alazare619 | livecd-rootfs im tried to take the default ubuntu one and modify it to my use but its confusing me as to where minimal and standard task are | 19:35 |
| micahg | alazare619: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.quantal/ | 19:36 |
| alazare619 | thank you micahg | 19:36 |
| alazare619 | one last question do you know what method ubuntu uses or script to build the iso after the chroot is squashed? | 19:37 |
| micahg | nope | 19:37 |
| alazare619 | dang | 19:38 |
| jtaylor | mterry: imagemagick really got a dependency on fftw? | 20:15 |
| jtaylor | thats long obsolete? | 20:15 |
| mterry | jtaylor, yeah, just a typo. Debian is correcting it already | 20:16 |
| jtaylor | k | 20:16 |
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| infinity | jamespage: Naughty. No manpage for thrift. | 22:30 |
| phoenix_firebrd | what is the advantage of signing the ubuntu code of conduct? | 22:45 |
| micahg | well, it's a requirement for membership | 22:47 |
| tumbleweed | also required to have PPAs, IIRC | 22:48 |
| phoenix_firebrd | tumbleweed: dev or normal? | 22:50 |
| tumbleweed | what does that mean? | 22:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | you meant membership , do you mean a developer access membership or for any type of membership? | 22:52 |
| tumbleweed | I was saying that you need to sign the CoC if you want to be able to have/contribute to PPAs | 22:53 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok do you have a sysadmin channel, i have some issues getting the gpg fingerprint | 22:55 |
| phoenix_firebrd | tumbleweed: ^ | 22:59 |
| tumbleweed | #ubuntu? | 22:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | tumbleweed: ty | 23:00 |
| RAOF | smoser: Around now! | 23:14 |
| RAOF | slangasek: Yeah, sorry. I missed the original “this won't actually have global menus, but won't crash” bit. | 23:15 |
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