[03:30] kees: thanks for driving === rsalveti` is now known as rsalveti === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] hi [16:00] Mr Page! [16:01] * jamespage looks at his watch [16:01] o/ [16:01] hello [16:01] o/ [16:01] hilo [16:01] * Daviey notes that jimbaker isn't on the schedule [16:01] * rbasak should probably be on the schedule too [16:01] he is now [16:02] and m_3 :-) [16:02] and so is m_3 and rbasak [16:02] * Daviey taps his watch. [16:02] okay-dokay [16:02] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:02] Meeting started Tue Jul 10 16:02:26 2012 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: [16:02] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:02] none [16:02] \o/ [16:02] #topic Quantal Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Quantal Development [16:02] #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:03] It's mostly MIR bugs which are causing woe [16:03] So we have quite a few MIR's to support cep work [16:03] bug 1017972 1017978 1022493 [16:03] Launchpad bug 1017972 in libunwind (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-perftools, libunwind" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017972 [16:03] jamespage: perhaps someone should try to interface closer with the MIR team to get these progressing ? [16:03] Daviey, as they are all mine I will do that [16:04] jamespage: super! [16:04] and then [16:04] bug 974584 [16:04] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:04] hallyn: ^ [16:04] #action jamespage to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIR's [16:04] ACTION: jamespage to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIR's [16:04] Daviey: should be fixed ind ebian [16:04] in debian [16:04] there is quantum/quantumclient MIRs as well [16:05] zul: please make sure you subscribe ubuntu-server-release [16:05] zul: can you action following them up? [16:05] jamespage: ack [16:05] Daviey: i tried to get them moving today but no one from the MIR answered my query [16:05] #action zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed [16:05] ACTION: zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed [16:05] jamespage: well, technically ubuntu-server-release is for issues we are blocking on.. MIR bugs mostly block on others, no? [16:06] Daviey, I don't see much differentiation [16:06] jamespage: Well, there is a separate section on the report specifically for tracking MIR's [16:06] (without us having to subscribe ubuntu-server*) [16:06] Daviey, oh - I see [16:07] Daviey, what magic makes things appear their? [16:07] jamespage: that is for packages that we are bug subscribers for and has ~ubuntu-mir subscribed to the bug, and not Fix'd [16:07] ie, just works. [16:07] Daviey, OK - so we just need to sub ~ubuntu-server to those packages then [16:08] zul: ^^ got that? [16:08] I'll update mine as well [16:08] yah.. which is usually a prerequisite for MIR [16:08] jamespage: yeah [16:08] Daviey, ack [16:09] hallyn: re bug 974584 - can I assign that bug to you or is there someone else more appropriate? [16:09] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:09] jamespage: assigning me wouldn't help :) it's fixedin debian, just needs to be merged [16:09] i just commented on the bug [16:10] (needs to be merged, and i don't have upload rights) [16:10] jamespage: hallyn is mostly on plus1 for now.. better someone else [16:10] hallyn, ah - rightoh - its actually sysvinit not lxc - my mistake [16:10] zul: bug 1020313 [16:10] Launchpad bug 1020313 in horizon (Ubuntu) "openstack-dashboard hijacks the web root" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020313 [16:11] OK to sweep that up in the next set of updates? [16:11] jamespage: is that in precise? [16:12] I don't think we can reasonably SRU that [16:12] Daviey, I agree [16:12] soren: ^^ [16:12] next? [16:13] OK _ while we figure that out [16:13] Still have a couple of FTBFS issue we are tracking [16:13] I know the genshi one is not moving forward upstream [16:13] so we may need to spend some time working a patch ourselves [16:13] so if anyone wants to volunteer.... [16:14] other than that ... moving on [16:14] #topic Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html [16:14] bah wrong ling [16:14] link [16:14] trend line is still a bit off [16:14] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html [16:14] oooh...lets do the time war again [16:14] lol [16:15] Daviey: did you mention we need re-classify topics? [16:15] smoser: I've been meaning to suggest that we redo the work items for the apt blueprint once we have feedback [16:15] arosales: no [16:15] or reorder BPs under topics [16:15] or neither :-) [16:15] rbasak, that seems reasonable. [16:16] -Action arosales, update the topics/blueprints? :) [16:16] Daviey, arosales: please can we understand the context for this change? [16:17] * Daviey hands the mic to arosales. [16:17] Daviey: I already put the dependencies on the BPs [16:17] perhaps I classified then under the incorrect topic though [16:18] I'll take an action to get this straigned out and get the trend line to track our work correctly [16:18] #action arosales to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly [16:18] ACTION: arosales to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly [16:18] ta [16:19] lets have a @daily reset-trend-line.py cronjob [16:19] I'm not going to focus on any specific blueprints; but I would recommend everyone review ~weekly [16:19] I've also been using the +upcomingwork view in Launchpad [16:19] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+upcomingwork [16:19] for example [16:20] which gives you more of a time based view of whats next.... [16:20] anyone have anything else for blueprint status? [16:20] ..... [16:20] .... [16:20] ... [16:20] .. [16:20] . [16:20] nope [16:20] OK [16:20] hometime \o/ [16:21] #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) [16:21] i believe i was probably supposed to have done something here. i think i said i'd look at our list of items. but I have not. [16:21] * ScottK uploaded postfix 2.9.3 for a MRE SRU yesterday. Waiting for someone else in ubuntu-sru to accept it. [16:21] We have managed to push few quite a few SRU's [16:21] thanks ScottK [16:22] *push through [16:22] smoser - lets do that tomorrow [16:22] #action smoser and jamespage to review and assign SRU bug across team. [16:22] ACTION: smoser and jamespage to review and assign SRU bug across team. [16:22] jamespage, ok. [16:22] http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html is the/one list, and as you can see, server has a nice long list of bugs [16:22] wee! [16:23] smoser: most of those bugs are also on [16:23] http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html [16:23] maas and juju specifically have a large number of unassigned high priority items [16:24] anyway - looks like folk will have bugs coming their way tomorrow onwards.... [16:24] bugs are overated [16:24] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:24] any events in the next two weeks we should be aware of? [16:25] OSCON coming up on the 16th [16:25] m_3 and jcastro attending [16:25] i will also be at oscon [16:25] a veritable server-team fest! [16:25] OK [16:25] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:25] hggdh, around for an update? [16:26] ... [16:26] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:26] smb? [16:26] yup [16:26] So I have been chasing some quantal regression of an older (b44) nic, trying to get kexec/kdump working in precise/quantal, chasing some 32bit Xen HVM problem and err, that might be all. Something else I should be aware (iow questions)? Oh, and /me being in Portland, OR next week. [16:26] .. [16:27] any questions for smb? [16:28] nope - next! [16:28] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:28] I've been working on a hacky patch against MAAS trunk that will make it provision ARM machines. The idea is that this can eventually be adapted into first class support. The patch is currently up-to-date against MAAS trunk, and I'm just waiting on the last cobbler-replacement pieces to land. [16:28] Nothing else to report. [16:28] Any questions for me? [16:29] rbasak, I have a question - would it be possible to get the openvswitch kernel module enabled for the ARM kernels? [16:29] I believe its upstream for the 3.4 series we are currently using [16:29] That's something I'll have to ask of the kernel team [16:29] rbasak, that would be helpful (only hit this today) [16:30] In quantal? Or do you need a precise SRU? [16:30] #action rbasak to find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels [16:30] ACTION: rbasak to find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels [16:30] rbasak, quantal is OK [16:30] This is for the openstack module I presume? I forget its name [16:30] quantum [16:30] Yeah that's it [16:30] OK I'll find out [16:31] plus openvswitch is way cooler than doing old style bridging... :-) [16:31] apw: ^^? :) [16:31] any other questions for rbasak? [16:31] jamespage: which kernels in particular? [16:31] jamespage: omap4, armadaxp, highbank, all of the above? :) [16:31] rbasak: whilst i remember, shall we have a quick catchup tomorrow morning? [16:31] rbasak, all of the above [16:31] :) [16:31] Daviey: sure [16:32] OK [16:32] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:32] anyone have anything for open discussion? [16:32] nope [16:32] right-oh [16:32] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:33] jamespage: we should be able to test if the dkms modules build [16:33] zul: it does not [16:33] oh...poop [16:33] July 17th 2012, 1600 UTC right here [16:33] until then... [16:33] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:34] Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 16:34:00 2012 UTC. [16:34] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-16.02.moin.txt [16:34] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-16.02.html [16:34] Thanks for chairing jamespage [16:37] rbasak, it seems to be enabled for everything but ti-omap4, and we'll be reviewing that next week [16:37] Thanks apw. May I leave that with you? [16:37] jamespage: ^^ [16:38] rbasak, action completed - ta [16:40] thanks jamespage [16:40] np [16:42] win 23 [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] Meeting started Tue Jul 10 17:00:13 2012 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) [17:00] Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] _o_ [17:00] o/ [17:00] \o [17:00] o/ [17:01] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:01] Q/omap4: rebased on 3.4.4 (Ubuntu-3.4.0-204.9). [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:01] [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-quantal-alpha-3.html [17:01] || apw || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:01] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 3 work items || [17:01] || || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item || [17:01] || cking || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 1 work items || [17:01] || cooloney || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:01] || jjohansen || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:01] || ogasawara || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work items || [17:01] || ppisati || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:02] || tgardner || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items || [17:02] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 1 work items || [17:02] || kernel-team || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work items || [17:02] || || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 2 work items || [17:02] If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-3 work items. [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) [17:02] We have recently rebased the Quantal kernel to the latest v3.5-rc6 [17:02] upstream kernel and have uploaded. This has also been uploaded to the [17:02] q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel [17:02] in 12.04. We welcome any early adopters to please install, test, and [17:02] let us know your feedback. [17:02] [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport [17:02] Important upcoming dates: [17:02] * Thurs July 26 - Alpha 3 (~2 weeks) [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (bjf) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (bjf) [17:03] == 2012-07-10 (weekly) == [17:03] Currently we have 93 CVEs on our radar, with 1 CVE retired this week. [17:03] See the CVE matrix for the current list: [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html [17:03] Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week: [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) [17:03] Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (July 10): [17:03] * Hardy – 2.6.24-32.103 – Verified, ready for testing; 1 CVE (4 commits) [17:03] * Lucid – 2.6.32-41.94 – In verification (2 commits) (2 commits) [17:03] * Natty – 2.6.38-15.64 – In verification (2 commits) (2 commits) [17:03] * Oneiric – 3.0.0-23.38 – In verification; 3 upstream stable release (approx. 94 commits) [17:03] * Precise – 3.2.0-27.43 – In verification; 2 upstream stable release (approx. 183 commits) [17:03] Current opened tracking bugs details: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html [17:03] For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html [17:03] Future stable cadence cycles: [17:03] * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock [17:03] The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built. [17:04] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:04] gah why is it that pulse audio doesn't play all my beeps? [17:04] sorry wrong channel [17:04] Should we cancel next weeks meeting due to the sprint? [17:04] .. [17:04] jsalisbury: yes [17:04] .. [17:04] ok [17:04] .. [17:05] Also, I will be on vacation for the July 24th meeting. Is there someone else that can chair? [17:05] .. [17:05] jsalisbury: I can chair [17:05] ogasawara, great, thanks! [17:05] .. [17:05] Any other open discussions? [17:06] Thanks everyone [17:06] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:06] Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 17:06:02 2012 UTC. [17:06] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-17.00.moin.txt [17:06] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-17.00.html