| * Kilos greets everyone | 06:14 | |
| * Password greets kilos back | 06:15 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:15 |
|---|---|---|
| === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| nuvolari | o/ mornings | 06:20 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 06:20 |
| Kilos | hey SmilyBorg | 06:20 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, bere jou voor vir meeting maandag aand ne | 06:21 |
| Kilos | berei/prepare | 06:21 |
| SmilyBorg | Morning :-) | 06:24 |
| nuvolari | hi oom! die 16de né? | 06:27 |
| Kilos | dis reg seun | 06:27 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:41 |
| superfly | morning Kilos! | 06:41 |
| superfly | hallo nuvolari, welcome back | 06:41 |
| superfly | morning SmilyBorg | 06:41 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:55 |
| Kilos | morning not_found | 06:56 |
| Kilos | lurker | 06:56 |
| Kilos | hi cocooncrash | 06:57 |
| cocooncrash | Kilos: Hi | 06:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good morning | 06:58 |
| inetpro | oh and good mornings to everyone else | 06:59 |
| Kilos | good morning inetpro you well this morning? | 06:59 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:59 |
| Kilos | haha spot jy nou\ | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hi Superhuman | 07:02 |
| Superhuman | hey Kilos | 07:14 |
| charl | good morning all | 07:44 |
| Kilos | hiya charl | 07:44 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 07:44 |
| charl | how's it going | 07:44 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you? | 07:44 |
| charl | not too bad | 07:45 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee now! | 07:47 |
| Maaz | charl: *blink* | 07:47 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:47 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:47 | |
| charl | turns out making demands doesn't work on Maaz | 07:47 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 07:47 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Done | 07:47 |
| charl | he reminds me of nagato in haruhi | 07:47 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 07:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 07:51 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 07:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... skuus, ek't per ongeluk enter gedruk en nie eens agtergekom nie | 07:56 |
| inetpro | sien dit nou eers | 07:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:56 |
| Kilos | dont apologise i had a good laugh at the idea | 07:57 |
| * inetpro probeer maak asof hy nie besig is nie | 07:57 | |
| Kilos | ai | 07:57 |
| sflr | good morning! | 08:14 |
| Kilos | morning sflr | 08:14 |
| Kilos | hows things? | 08:14 |
| sflr | hi Kilos whats happening? | 08:14 |
| * sflr is out of breath | 08:14 | |
| Kilos | everyone seems kinda busy today | 08:15 |
| sflr | we moved to new office and i decided to only take the stairs. hehe | 08:15 |
| Kilos | few odd mornings and thats it | 08:15 |
| Kilos | thats the healthy way to do things | 08:15 |
| sflr | yeah, i'm sure i 2 weeks time i get used to it | 08:16 |
| Kilos | most health issues relate back to unfitness | 08:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:16 |
| sflr | true. by october need to be fit when the running season starts | 08:17 |
| Kilos | theres no running season | 08:17 |
| Kilos | all year | 08:17 |
| Kilos | you wanna run the comrades | 08:17 |
| Kilos | ? | 08:18 |
| sflr | one day. haha | 08:18 |
| sflr | maybe in 2 years time | 08:18 |
| Kilos | thats too far. 21 keys is far enough | 08:18 |
| sflr | ops. 2 years time is the world cup. i might be going to brazil | 08:19 |
| Kilos | but fun runs of 10 ks or so are good | 08:19 |
| sflr | yes. marathon also doable. wasnt that bad | 08:19 |
| Kilos | whew as an after thought maybe | 08:20 |
| sflr | if you can run half, then you can run 30. walking another 12 is acceptable ;) | 08:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:23 |
| Squirm | morning | 08:30 |
| Kilos | morning Squirm | 08:48 |
| Kilos | sorry i took so long. was herding sheep | 08:48 |
| Kilos | yo NeVeR_ | 09:03 |
| NeVeR_ | yo yo | 09:03 |
| Langjan | hi kilos | 09:11 |
| Kilos | hithere Langjan all well there? | 09:11 |
| Langjan | all well thanks, and with you? | 09:11 |
| Kilos | yes ty | 09:11 |
| Langjan | that's good news. Just connected on xchat on my new install and am here to check comms | 09:12 |
| Kilos | glad you got it going | 09:13 |
| Langjan | thks, for the first time everything is working fine | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 09:13 |
| Kilos | stay away from windows stuff | 09:13 |
| Langjan | I also doubled up on my RAM, this was causing some hiccups | 09:14 |
| Kilos | ah yeah ubuntu loves lotsa ram | 09:14 |
| Langjan | yes I have learnt that lesson about Windows stuff | 09:14 |
| Kilos | btw i have that msfonts thing installed and it works with powerpoint view i think | 09:15 |
| Langjan | Mt RAM is not so massive, only 2 gigs but it made a major difference | 09:15 |
| Kilos | another 2g will make it even better | 09:15 |
| Kilos | remeber you said the button was greyed out | 09:17 |
| Langjan | I suppose so, but am happy as it stands | 09:17 |
| Langjan | which button? | 09:17 |
| Kilos | there is an accept block you tick then the button comes alive | 09:17 |
| Kilos | to get that msfonts goodie | 09:17 |
| Langjan | Oh, there was not even a block | 09:17 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:17 |
| Langjan | do you really need those fonts? | 09:18 |
| Langjan | Did you see the list of equivalents? | 09:18 |
| Kilos | i have a presentation thing i think its called that wouldnt play without it | 09:18 |
| Langjan | ok | 09:18 |
| Kilos | but if you can use linux equivalents thats better and safer | 09:19 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 09:19 |
| smile | good morning :) | 09:19 |
| Langjan | friendly handle... | 09:19 |
| Langjan | hi smile | 09:19 |
| Kilos | hehe and he is a smiley addict | 09:20 |
| smile | hi Kilos & Langjan :) | 09:20 |
| smile | Kilos: xD | 09:20 |
| Langjan | great habot | 09:20 |
| Langjan | habit | 09:20 |
| Kilos | hehe. too much work for me to find the keys everytime | 09:20 |
| Langjan | kilos I greet you, take care and regards to Debs | 09:21 |
| smile | well I know where the keys are | 09:21 |
| smile | i even don't have to look at them | 09:21 |
| smile | :p | 09:21 |
| Kilos | ty Langjan you go safe as well and pop in again | 09:21 |
| Kilos | we have a meeting monday night Langjan | 09:21 |
| Kilos | 19.30 | 09:21 |
| Kilos | come join us | 09:22 |
| Langjan | thks, meeting about what? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | our monthly meet on whats been done and what still to do | 09:22 |
| Langjan | I hate meetings, only on a have-to basis | 09:23 |
| Kilos | feed backe on release parties and cds etc | 09:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:23 |
| Langjan | yep, had my fill during my career | 09:24 |
| Kilos | these are fun meetings man | 09:24 |
| Kilos | not where is the money gone and how to make more | 09:24 |
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 09:25 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 09:25 |
| Trixar_za | And I see Squirm's idling here too | 09:25 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 09:25 |
| Squirm | Trixar_za: I don't idle here | 09:26 |
| Trixar_za | Lies. You're not even an Ubuntu user. Neither am I, but still :P | 09:26 |
| Langjan | go well kilos, will chat again | 09:26 |
| Squirm | Trixar_za: well, xChat joins me to 3 servers on startup, I'm in 3 freenode channels | 09:27 |
| Squirm | not many, but this be one :) | 09:27 |
| Trixar_za | at the moment I'm at 5 | 09:28 |
| Trixar_za | But I'm only idling in #github until I get support | 09:28 |
| Squirm | I almost type /list :/ | 09:32 |
| Squirm | can anyone suggest a linux compatible gps receiver? | 09:34 |
| Kilos | https://forums.garmin.com/archive/index.php/t-1281.html | 09:37 |
| Kilos | you get lost easy Squirm ? | 09:39 |
| Squirm | Kilos: no. thinking of using it for some tracking | 09:40 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:40 |
| Kilos | i used a garmin to map out a farm. they work great | 09:41 |
| Kilos | but not cheap if i member right | 09:41 |
| Squirm | Garmin doesn't support linux | 09:41 |
| sflr | you could cooke your own with a gps module and arduino? http://arduino.cc/playground/Tutorials/GPS | 09:42 |
| Trixar_za | Maybe something like http://www.gpsdrive.de/ then? | 09:42 |
| Kilos | oh my thats the link maaz gave me | 09:42 |
| Trixar_za | lol, that's actually a clever name for a blog. fsckin w/ linux | 09:43 |
| Squirm | lol | 09:46 |
| Squirm | nice | 09:46 |
| Squirm | anyways, thanks | 09:46 |
| Squirm | I'll bbl | 09:46 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 09:56 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 09:56 | |
| charl | funny enough, our coffee apparatus at work is from Maas http://www.maas.nl/ | 09:56 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 09:56 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 09:56 |
| charl | so make an s from the z and it would be really ironic | 09:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:57 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 10:00 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 10:01 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 10:01 |
| Trixar_za | What is Maaz? | 10:03 |
| Kilos | an ibid bot | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hey nlsthzn wb | 10:03 |
| nlsthzn | thanks uncle Kilos | 10:04 |
| Kilos | all good there nlsthzn ? | 10:04 |
| nlsthzn | always uncle Kilos, and there? (Except cold) | 10:05 |
| Kilos | yeah ty | 10:05 |
| nlsthzn | awesome | 10:05 |
| * Trixar_za steals some ideas from Ibid | 10:06 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:06 |
| Kilos | ibids rock | 10:06 |
| Trixar_za | Well, I do like improving Alia | 10:08 |
| charl | Maaz: what are you | 10:09 |
| Maaz | charl: I am your new robot overlord | 10:09 |
| Kilos | haha | 10:09 |
| charl | kowaii | 10:09 |
| Trixar_za | Alia is PyBorg btw :P | 10:11 |
| charl | nice | 10:21 |
| charl | a bot brigade in this channel :) | 10:21 |
| nlsthzn | more bots than brains | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:22 |
| Trixar_za | Bots are interesting and so is basic AI theory. Well up until you realize it's mostly just clever tricks. | 10:26 |
| Trixar_za | Would be cool to see a truly thinking AI | 10:26 |
| Kilos | haha then we end up like that arnold schwartzeneger movie with bots running the world | 10:27 |
| NeVeR_ | just write a program that types statements, then use a code completion tool, then u have random AI :P | 10:27 |
| charl | bbl | 10:28 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| sflr | re | 10:57 |
| Kilos | sflr, wb | 10:58 |
| Kilos | re? | 10:58 |
| sflr | yeah, re for return :) | 10:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:58 |
| sflr | old school | 11:02 |
| Kilos | hellooo za | 12:15 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, you at work? | 12:54 |
| Kilos | wb nlsthzn | 13:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz, seen magespawn | 13:15 |
| Maaz | Kilos: magespawn was last seen 17 hours, 39 minutes and 38 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-07-09 21:35:47 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-07-09 21:35:51 SAST | 13:15 |
| nlsthzn | thanks uncle Kilos ... just had to get xchat working again | 13:15 |
| Kilos | how did you crash it lad? | 13:15 |
| nlsthzn | was running mIRC... not my cup of tea so back to xchat | 13:20 |
| Kilos | lol i love xchat | 13:22 |
| Kilos | tried all the K things. xchat better | 13:22 |
| Kilos | mind you only sound didnt work with quassel and Konversation | 13:23 |
| nlsthzn | in ubuntu I always have to install mplayer to get sound working with xchat for some reason | 13:25 |
| * Kilos goes to fetch sheep | 13:44 | |
| smile | bye | 13:46 |
| Kilos | re | 14:30 |
| nuvolari | thanks superfly! | 15:14 |
| nuvolari | nice to be back | 15:14 |
| nuvolari | somehow | 15:14 |
| nuvolari | :p | 15:14 |
| smile | hi :) | 15:37 |
| * Kilos will be back | 16:03 | |
| nuvolari | o/ | 16:12 |
| charl | good evening | 16:28 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 16:28 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 16:29 |
| charl | phew hectic day | 16:29 |
| charl | i had one meeting after the next | 16:29 |
| charl | barely spent any time in front of a computer | 16:29 |
| Kilos | oh well you got tonight | 16:30 |
| Kilos | so tickle that keyboard | 16:48 |
| Kilos | tomorrow i mail the CEO of vodacom again. 2 weeks is too long to wait for tower repairs | 16:59 |
| charl | phew that sucks | 17:03 |
| charl | the mobile in this country is so bad / expensive i don't even use it | 17:04 |
| Kilos | foning 111 is a good way to just get promises | 17:04 |
| charl | lol | 17:04 |
| Kilos | we dont have a choice , all fone lines were stolen so often telkom refused to replace them | 17:05 |
| charl | that's terrible | 17:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:05 |
| Kilos | copper is easily movable | 17:06 |
| Kilos | wb NeVeR_ onna sunday | 17:37 |
| Kilos | yo magespawn | 17:38 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos | 17:38 |
| Maaz | magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn tell magespawn that he can check when last his system was rebooted with the last command" 21 hours, 57 minutes and 59 seconds ago | 17:38 |
| magespawn | Lol | 17:38 |
| magespawn | Ty Kilos | 17:38 |
| Kilos | lol you been gone long time hey | 17:38 |
| Kilos | yw its from goosie | 17:39 |
| magespawn | Happens sometimee. goosie? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | gustav | 17:39 |
| Kilos | inetpro, | 17:40 |
| Kilos | whats happening with the recovery laddy | 17:40 |
| magespawn | Ohh right, should have caught that. | 17:40 |
| Kilos | i will need lotsa info from you later | 17:40 |
| magespawn | 1st run only got about 92 gig, but the second which is taking a lot longer has recovered about 700gig. | 17:41 |
| magespawn | Like what Kilos? | 17:41 |
| Kilos | with what tool magespawn | 17:41 |
| magespawn | Photorec. | 17:41 |
| Kilos | neaighbours have a pc printer scanner etc repair compant | 17:42 |
| Kilos | neighbours too | 17:42 |
| magespawn | Just finished making a ultimate boot cd. | 17:43 |
| Kilos | am thinking of approaching them and asking if they want to branch out to data recovery as well and ill do it for them from home here | 17:43 |
| Kilos | ubcd has testdisk on too | 17:43 |
| magespawn | Which I have just tested on my windows laptop and does not boot from it. Lol | 17:43 |
| Kilos | bad iso | 17:43 |
| Kilos | is your bios set to boot from cd? | 17:44 |
| magespawn | Maybe, but I think it is the burning software rather. | 17:44 |
| magespawn | Yes | 17:44 |
| Kilos | aw use the ubuntu burning thingie | 17:44 |
| Kilos | works kiff with isos | 17:45 |
| magespawn | That machine is at the shop still running the recovery. | 17:45 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:45 |
| magespawn | Not a bad idea Kilos. | 17:45 |
| inetpro | eh, good evenings | 17:45 |
| Kilos | yo inetpro | 17:45 |
| magespawn | Just make sure ppl understand what you can do and what you cannot do. | 17:46 |
| magespawn | Evening inetpro. | 17:46 |
| Kilos | thats where you come in | 17:46 |
| magespawn | Sokemof thos data recovery ppl can get data off burnt drives etc. | 17:47 |
| Kilos | methinks if gparted can see the drive then most of the data is recoverable | 17:47 |
| magespawn | Most of the time yes. But like I say this is only my second use of it. | 17:47 |
| Kilos | yeah but then they swop actual disk into another same drives casing | 17:47 |
| magespawn | And they have clean rooms etc. | 17:48 |
| Kilos | and expensive to keep stock of drives just to use the housings | 17:48 |
| Kilos | but if you gonna charge thousands then it pays to buy a dive same as the burnt one | 17:50 |
| Kilos | if they still available that is | 17:51 |
| Kilos | hi RPM | 17:52 |
| Kilos | oh my lotsa bad webs tonight | 17:56 |
| Kilos | Banlam, you studying? | 18:03 |
| Kilos | magespawn, where you went? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | fish time? | 18:04 |
| magespawn | Yup but back now. | 18:05 |
| magespawn | Fish one has a poem to practice, just made a video of the practice. | 18:06 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:06 |
| Kilos | you can show them again in 40 years time | 18:06 |
| magespawn | Trying the ultimate boot cd again. | 18:07 |
| magespawn | Or when he gets his first girlfriend. | 18:07 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:07 |
| Kilos | show to his kids | 18:07 |
| magespawn | This one works. | 18:08 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:08 |
| magespawn | So was justnthe software. | 18:08 |
| Kilos | but lots to figure out | 18:08 |
| Kilos | and read | 18:08 |
| Kilos | and press any key or enter over and over | 18:09 |
| magespawn | Comes with a lot of tools. | 18:09 |
| Kilos | maybe im mixed up with the supergrub cd now | 18:09 |
| magespawn | This one and Trinity rescue disk, I like. | 18:14 |
| Kilos | i got mine from a guy in capetown that came on here for a few days , offered it to me, mailed it and didnt come back on here again | 18:15 |
| magespawn | Ahh well there are strange ppl all over. | 18:16 |
| Kilos | and there used to be a guy that does pc performance testing. also coupla weeks and gone | 18:17 |
| magespawn | Kilos I think those data recovery people are for corporates. | 18:18 |
| Kilos | whats that? | 18:19 |
| nuvolari | o/ naand oom Kilos | 18:20 |
| nuvolari | hi magespawn | 18:20 |
| Kilos | yo nuvolari | 18:20 |
| Kilos | magespawn, what did that 2TB external cost/ | 18:21 |
| magespawn | Hi nuvolari | 18:21 |
| magespawn | Is a 1tb. R1299. But it is a usb powered 2.5 | 18:22 |
| Kilos | But it is a usb powered 2.5?? | 18:22 |
| Kilos | whats that? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | and not cheap hey? | 18:23 |
| magespawn | 2.5 inch, the small ones that do not require a sepetate power adaptor | 18:23 |
| magespawn | Seperate even | 18:23 |
| Kilos | oh ya ty | 18:24 |
| Kilos | separate | 18:24 |
| Kilos | like a normall lappy drives external case | 18:25 |
| nlsthzn | Installed afrikaans on my win 7 install... now when I right click on a usb drive one option is "Pasmaak hierdie omslag" ... wut?! | 18:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:26 |
| nuvolari | dis geen afrikaans nie... | 18:27 |
| nuvolari | nlsthzn: what's the english for that? | 18:27 |
| Kilos | billys translation | 18:27 |
| nlsthzn | I have no idea.. that is the problem | 18:27 |
| Kilos | or google translate | 18:27 |
| nlsthzn | also, to remove the usb you have to "skiet" it :p | 18:27 |
| nuvolari | lol | 18:28 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | :D | 18:28 |
| nuvolari | I doubt they had the correct africaans dictionary | 18:28 |
| nuvolari | *afrikaans | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | I don't know :) | 18:28 |
| === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] | ||
| Kilos | Kerbero[afk], do you understand win7 afrikaans | 18:29 |
| smile | see ya! :) tot morgen :) | 18:30 |
| nlsthzn | bai | 18:30 |
| Kilos | cheers smile | 18:30 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:30 |
| nuvolari | nlsthzn: Customize this folder | 18:30 |
| nuvolari | cheers smile | 18:30 |
| smile | thanks all! :D | 18:31 |
| nlsthzn | ah ok... that makes 100% sense now that you said it :p | 18:31 |
| smile | good nite everyone ;) | 18:31 |
| * nlsthzn was thinking things about formatting and stuff like that | 18:31 | |
| nuvolari | personally the better afrikaans would be Folder -> gids, file -> l^EER | 18:31 |
| nuvolari | fffff! | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hehe could be rather frightening hey | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | who messed with my compose key?? | 18:32 |
| nlsthzn | well, when I format the c: by accident I willl know I was looking for it | 18:32 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:32 |
| * nuvolari tries again | 18:37 | |
| nuvolari | file -> lêer | 18:37 |
| nlsthzn | nice | 18:41 |
| nlsthzn | I am now going to install 12.04 from my "Verwyderbare skyf" | 18:41 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 18:41 |
| inetpro | eish! | 18:42 |
| magespawn | Okay then | 18:42 |
| nlsthzn | got to reboot so I can start that dual boot thingy... night all | 18:43 |
| nuvolari | night nlsthzn | 18:43 |
| magespawn | I did some work on a french and russian version os | 18:43 |
| magespawn | Night nlsthzn | 18:43 |
| Kilos | inetpro, gaan jy die agenda bladsy hernu want ek wil more die vroee waarskuwing van die vergadsering pos | 18:43 |
| magespawn | Oops | 18:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... ek't nie tyd vanaand nie, jammer | 18:44 |
| Kilos | np | 18:44 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, waar is die apie | 18:45 |
| Kilos | hy hou produksie op | 18:46 |
| nuvolari | nee jinne oom ek weet nie, die apie het in die boomtoppe begin leef | 18:46 |
| nuvolari | nie meer 'n spoor op die grond nie | 18:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:47 |
| Kilos | hy werk in durbs so lewe uit n tas uit | 18:47 |
| magespawn | I am going down on thursday but he is probable busy. | 18:49 |
| Kilos | during the day yeah he will be at work | 18:49 |
| magespawn | Ahh well. | 18:53 |
| magespawn | Maybe another time. | 18:53 |
| Kilos | maybe you can arrange a lunchtime meet | 18:53 |
| Kilos | mail him magespawn | 18:54 |
| magespawn | I am not in my own transport this time. So maybe next time. | 18:55 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:56 |
| Kilos | there is a pc wholesaler in durbs where everything is cheap | 18:56 |
| magespawn | Mm I get most of my stuff there | 18:57 |
| Kilos | the head office in jhb wants you to open an account with 1000 deposit but durbs one just sells stuff over the counter | 18:57 |
| Kilos | i forget the name of the place | 18:57 |
| Kilos | sahara | 18:57 |
| Kilos | thats it | 18:58 |
| magespawn | I use one o the others too | 19:00 |
| Kilos | methinks me go crash. sleep tight guys | 19:01 |
| magespawn | Night Kilos | 19:01 |
| Kilos | see ya morrow tween fence repairs | 19:02 |
| magespawn | I al also off, night all. | 19:05 |
| Squirm | greetings | 19:32 |
| === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero | ||
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
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