[00:01] <icimabue> If I download Java's JDK, manually, where is a good place to put it?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> !java
[00:03] <cihhan> escott: i just checked and yeah they are sata
[00:05] <nibblyn> ...can't connect with XChat 2.8.8 -> Connecting to irc.freenode.net (32.1.6.176) port 8001. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out. Help please.
[00:06] <cc11rocks> escott - The manual tells me I have to open the file with Adobe's proprietary garbage program, download the .epub file, then import that into calibre. Thanks for the help. :(
[00:06] <Dr_willis> hmm.. port 8001 is a valid port?
[00:06] <three18ti> nibblyn, isn't 8001 SSL port?
[00:06] <cc11rocks> 443 is SSL...
[00:06] <three18ti> cc11rocks, ... O.o are you even paying attention?
[00:06] <cc11rocks> Oh, sorry...We're talking about a program
[00:06] <cc11rocks> My bad
[00:06] <three18ti> ;)
[00:06] <three18ti> lol.
[00:07] <cc11rocks> I'm out guys...Thanks
[00:07] <ejo> Hi -- You know in Ubuntu Software Center where it says "you need to install this before you can review it"?  It always says that for me, for apps I installed long ago or just recently or even reinstalled.  It *always* says it.  Can I fix that?
[00:07] <three18ti> I really wasn't trying to be a dick... lol.
[00:07] <nibblyn> three18ti:  checking, thanks
[00:08] <Dr_willis> ejo,  just my 2 cents.. but i find most reviws in the software center useless. ;)'
[00:08] <ejo> Me too.  I just had an idle curiosity about it working properly.
[00:08] <three18ti> nibblyn, how -are- you connected now?  WebIRC?
[00:08] <Dr_willis> the whole star rateing, reviews. has been basically abused to uselessness on some other marketplaces.. :P
[00:08]  * ejo agrees.
[00:08] <lauratika> hi im trying to use cryptkeeper to set a couple of spaces for privacy for chat applications,is this enough or i should use truecrypt better?
[00:09] <ejo> cryptkeeper sounds creepy...
[00:09] <nibblyn> three18ti: yep. anyway, 8001 comes right from the repos... fixing it, thanks
[00:11] <lauratika> why?
[00:11] <lauratika> dead people also needs privacy
[00:11] <ejo> sure; the dead would not be creeped out and that is well and good.
[00:12] <the_smart_chef1> hey
[00:13] <lauratika> yep, but then truecrypt will be for patriots only...true is the core of a nation
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> im getting ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> and my computer is triple boot, windows xp, windows 7 and mac
[00:13] <gdane> hi
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> so how do you install those into a triple boot computer (if you install them, quintuple boot computer)
[00:14] <gdane> can u send me url of manuals about unity and gadgets&
[00:14] <gdane> ?
[00:14] <gdane> thanks
[00:14] <nibblyn> ...Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (32.1.8.32) port 6667. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out -> what's wrong with XChat 2.8.8? (btw irc.debian.org works fine)
[00:14] <lauratika> so anyone
[00:15] <gdane> i wanna try to make gadged as small character, what usefull manuals i have to read about?
[00:16] <josvuk> Hello, what is bioethanol, is it 100% ethanol (is it denaturated alcohol) Can I use it for milling Al for my ubuntu embeded computer?
[00:16] <the_smart_chef1> g2g
[00:17] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[00:18] <PrototypeX29A> I've got troubles printing anything. just days ago it was working fine, but now I have three jobs in my queue, none which is being printed
[00:19] <PrototypeX29A> (stdin) Pending,  Untitled.pdf Held, Untitled.pdf Pending
[00:19] <PrototypeX29A> maybe my first try (using xpdf) clogged the whole thing?
[00:20] <apremalal> hi all
[00:21] <apremalal> how can i add environment  variables in ubuntu?
[00:22] <apremalal> I have tried by editing Profile but it didn't work.
[00:22] <nibblyn> PrototypeX29A: unclog it :) remove everything from the print list, check your printer.
[00:22] <ameen> sup yall
[00:23] <PrototypeX29A> nibblyn: hmm no, i removed all jobs, tried turning off/on, retried but it just doesn't react
[00:23] <PrototypeX29A> though it makes printer-typical sounds when turning it on, i guess it is a healthy printer
[00:24] <PrototypeX29A> is there a log-file or something i can check?
[00:25] <apremalal> afu,
[00:25] <PrototypeX29A> HP-LaserJet-Professional-P1102w is not ready <- looks like the printer is detected but, well, not ready
[00:27] <PrototypeX29A> ok thanks, it worked after i randomly pushed some buttons and kept deleting things from the queue
[00:28] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove thid?
[00:28] <wolter> this*
[00:30] <nibblyn> PrototypeX29A: huh, maybe something in cups, maybe something under /var/log. btw, I'm not expert, someone wiser may pick you up with that, but imho you should try to print something autogenerated by the printer intself, a test page
[00:31] <Jordan_U> wolter: Please pastebin the complete error message.
[00:33] <apremalal> Jordan_U,
[00:33] <apremalal> how can i set environment variables?
[00:34] <nibblyn> ...Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (32.1.8.32) port 6667. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out -> what's wrong with XChat 2.8.8? (btw irc.debian.org works fine)
[00:34] <PrototypeX29A> apremalal: try 'export', i don't know the exact syntax but there is a manpage for that
[00:34] <apremalal> PrototypeX29A:Thank you.
[00:35] <agoodm> im getting machine check exceptions logged on my lenovo x220 when I push the cpu with demanding tasks, such as gaming or compiling
[00:35] <dax> nibblyn: does connecting to chat.freenode.net work?
[00:36] <wolter> Jordan_U, http://dpaste.com/768812/ I installed virtualenvwrapper but I don't know why it hooks itself to such a primal action as sudo -s
[00:36] <agoodm> used mcelog to decode the mce's and they suggest that im hitting the max temp and therefore its throttling... I think this is expected behaviour?  The cpu is turbo boosting...
[00:37] <nibblyn> dax: nope
[00:39] <dax> nibblyn: Odd. 32.1.8.32 isn't a freenode server address, so it sounds like there's a DNS problem somewhere. Try plugging in a specific freenode server (e.g. pratchett.freenode.net) for right now, and retry chat.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com in a few days.
[00:39] <dax> (using a specific server will cause issues if the server goes down, so you probably want to switch back to the original address at some point, and hopefully this is just a temporary issue)
[00:39] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove this? This is the error message http://dpaste.com/768812/
[00:41] <nibblyn> dax: yep, you are right. UFF damn dns servers. again. thanks, will investigate that.
[00:42] <dax> nibblyn: if it ends up being non-temporary, and you figure out it's not a local issue (i.e., your ISP is being silly, or we screwed something up on our end), feel free to drop by #freenode and give us a heads up, btw
[00:46] <nibblyn> dax: my ISP dns servers are not realiable, even if the company is the biggest national broadband provider. Have to check if I'm actually on freedns or not. thanks for your catch!
[00:47] <IlikeMoose> anyone know why this error pops up and i can'
[00:47] <IlikeMoose> 't eject my disc without rebooting?? Error ejecting: eject exited with exit code 1: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[00:47] <moes> I have 10.04 lts installed along with two other distros all using grub2 from 10.04...I want to install 12.04 and use the grub 2 from 10.04...Where would I install grub 2 from 12.04 on boot or on root ???
[00:50] <Jordan_U> wolter: What if you just run "sudo true"? If you don't get an error then then it's probably hooking into .profile or similar rather than sudo itself.
[00:54] <escott> moes, presumably you wouldn't install grub for 12.04, but would let 10.04's os-prober find the 12.04 kernels
[00:55] <cihhan> Im having some problems with the installation of Ubuntu 12.04 Server. When it comes to the "partition disks", I only see (1) Configure iSCSI, (2) a completely blank line, (3) Undo, (4) Finish -- (2) should normally have guided partitioning... Any ideas?
[01:00] <nibblyn_> dax, pratchett.freenode.net works fine, Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (32.1.25.240) port 6667 does not. Will report back in a few days.
[01:02] <wolter> Jordan_U, sudo true returns nothing
[01:03] <wolter> what does that tell you?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> wolter: It tells me that the issue is not with sudo, but with starting a root shell.
[01:05] <wolter> Jordan_U, do you have a clue as to where could this hook live?
[01:07] <escott> wolter, /root
[01:12] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator
[01:12] <StretchedALot> how do you like those dickupackets?
[01:16] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator
[01:16] <StretchedALot> are you there?
[01:16] <dax> StretchedALot: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[01:17] <StretchedALot> yes
[01:17] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator  what version of ubuntu do you use?
[01:17] <StretchedALot> I want to ask you about if you have had a certain aconteciemiento
[01:17] <StretchedALot> :D
[01:20] <starredsteria> Hiya.... Does anyone here run a Trendnet Wireless card on 12.04?
[01:21] <lynx> hi
[01:21] <lynx> hello
[01:22] <dax> StretchedALot: Then I recommend asking it.
[01:22] <wolter> escott, /root/.bashrc and /root/.profile don't show traces of virtualenv
[01:22] <Debolaz> Hmm, when using the dash key, is it normal for the dash to wait about a second after I've released the key before it appears?
[01:22] <linuxjones> is there a way to create a recovery partition where i can recover/reinstall ubuntu if a main partition fails?
[01:22] <trojan> what?
[01:23] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator   have you had problems with exploits?
[01:23] <StretchedALot> what is your current version of ubuntu?
[01:23] <escott> wolter, i wasnt following the original problem
[01:23] <h00k> StretchedALot: If you don't have a support related question, please keep the chatter elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:23] <StretchedALot> h00k it is support related
[01:23] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove this? This is the error message http://dpaste.com/768812/
[01:23] <StretchedALot> now go suck on a cumsock
[01:23] <wolter> escott, ^
[01:24] <wolter> If you have time
[01:24] <starredsteria> I'm having issues with constantly being disconnected from my wifi card (Trendnet using ndiswrapper) running 12.04
[01:24] <wolter> hahah
[01:24] <starredsteria> I have 3 comps... and all but the one with ndiswrapper works fine...
[01:25] <starredsteria> so I know it isn't the router... anyone else experiencing issue with ndiswrapper or Trendnet?
[01:25] <wolter> starredsteria, do you use ipv6?
[01:25] <escott> wolter, so that suggests that the problem is not what is in .bashrc but what is NOT in .bashrc in particular that environment variable
[01:25] <D-Chymera1> hi guys - how do I split a cue files in individual tracks?
[01:25] <Debolaz> linuxjones: I've never tried doing it, but I suspect the easiest approach is going to be to create a partition thats large enough to hold the ubuntu iso, or whatever CD image you want to use for recovery, then tell grub to boot from it.
[01:25] <starredsteria> ... don't think so
[01:25] <wolter> escott, I have tried uninstalling python-virtualenv (because I don't really need it) but the problem persists
[01:26] <starredsteria> nope.. its on ipv4
[01:26] <Debolaz> linuxjones: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[01:26] <wolter> starredsteria, can you check on your network settings if the connection requires ipv6 to finish? This happened to me once; it might not be your solution though
[01:26] <Firefly776> hiya, having a bit of an issue with GRUB not recognising my "Tesco K211" keyboard unless I interact when it first boots (in the BIOS) if I don't do anything in the BIOS GRUB doesn't recognise it at all, if I do it's fine
[01:26] <Firefly776> it works in the Windows multi-boot... why not GRUB?
[01:27] <starredsteria> how do I know if it requires it? I'm connected now
[01:27] <starredsteria> the issue is that many times when I reboot I have to reinstall the trendnet driver
[01:27] <Firefly776> (it also works when I actually get to the OS... even if it doesn't in GRUB)
[01:27] <starredsteria> wolter: sometimes I have to do that a few times to get it connected....
[01:28] <escott> Firefly776, bios issues
[01:28] <Firefly776> escott: it works with other USB keyboards
[01:28] <Firefly776> escott: and when Windows is in the MBR
[01:28] <Firefly776> this seems to be a GRUB issue to me
[01:29] <escott> Firefly776, the bios is in charge of usb devices until the kernel takes over
[01:31] <starredsteria> wolter: both ipv4 and ipv6 were set to automatic. I disabled ipv4 but it isn't looking hopeful so far
[01:31] <wolter> starredsteria, in the network settings, in the ipv6 tab
[01:31] <wolter> starredsteria, no, disable ipv6 instead
[01:31] <starredsteria> ahh ok
[01:32] <starredsteria> wolter: can't disable but setting to ignore... lets see if this works
[01:33] <Ctm54> talked to a few people on here yesterday to see if they could help me connect to the internet via ethernet on 12.04...consensus was it had something to do with my router. Anyone have any ideas for settings i should look for on the router?
[01:34] <starredsteria> Ctm54: Do you know the address to connect to your router's settings?
[01:34] <Ctm54> starredsteria: yup i can pull up the gui easily on my laptop
[01:34] <starredsteria> what kind of router do u have?
[01:35] <Ctm54> asus rt-n12
[01:35] <starredsteria> wolter: yep no luck with setting ipv6 to 'ignore'
[01:35] <wolter> starredsteria, ah
[01:37] <starredsteria> wolter: yep... completely disconnected again... time to reinstall the driver :(
[01:37] <wolter> starredsteria, but that solution has appeared not to work very well has it?
[01:38] <starredsteria> its the only way to get connected lol
[01:38] <starredsteria> it just keeps kicking me off...
[01:38] <sankey_> is this currently the easiest way to install nouveau in 12.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046504
[01:38] <starredsteria> then I have to either reinstall or restart to get it to work again
[01:39] <starredsteria> never had this issue on 11.11
[01:40] <histo> ?
[01:42] <Ctm54> starredsteria asus rt-n12
[01:42] <D-Chymera1> hi guys - how do I split a cue files in individual tracks?
[01:43] <histo> starredsteria: what chipset does your card have?
[01:43] <starredsteria> .... like my processor?
[01:44] <histo> starredsteria: lspci | grep Network
[01:44] <histo> ~info cuetools
[01:44] <histo> !info cuetools > D-Chymera1
[01:46] <starredsteria> histo: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL8190 802.11n Wireless LAN
[01:47] <BlueJau> Hey guys where would I go to get general support for hardware?
[01:47] <histo> starredsteria: why are you using ndiswrapper then?
[01:47] <escott> !alis | BlueJau
[01:47] <starredsteria> histo: because it is a trendnet wireless card
[01:47] <starredsteria> histo: won't work otherwise
[01:47] <bazhang> ##hardware BlueJau
[01:49] <histo> starredsteria: should work
[01:49] <histo> starredsteria: unless its a rtl8192d usb or rtl 8190p pci
[01:49] <Booga-Booga> Hi everyone! I got some quick questions about setting up my personal media server. :)
[01:50] <deco> anyone know what's this in octal ? drwxrwxr-x
[01:50] <starredsteria> histo: It has always required ndiswrapper - Never recognized the card out of the box :(
[01:50] <histo> starredsteria: what version of ubuntu areyou using?
[01:51] <starredsteria> Ctm54: Have you tried setting your ipv4 settings to manual?
[01:52] <Ctm54> starredsteria yes, it tells me it's connected but then i don't have internet access and can't even ping the router
[01:52] <starredsteria> Ctm54: And you are using an IP address that no other device is currently using?
[01:52] <escott> deco 775
[01:52] <kitties> deco, 755
[01:52] <kitties> damn
[01:52] <deco> escott: kitties  thanks!
[01:53] <Ctm54> starredsteria yes, if the network map on my router is to be believed
[01:53] <histo> Ctm54: what are the results of ifconfig in a terminal and is this wireless or wired?
[01:54] <Ctm54> histo wired, gimme a sec and i'll link a pastebin
[01:55] <Ctm54> histo http://pastebin.com/UnvF2jej that's from before trying to set a static IP
[01:55] <starredsteria> histo: I'm on 12.04... didn't have an issue on 11.11
[01:56] <tobiasr33per> who want to bash heads about an Nvidia Powermizer issue?
[01:57] <histo> starredsteria: did you blacklist the rtl8190 driver?
[01:57] <histo> Ctm54: are you using network manager?
[01:58] <starredsteria> histo: blacklist?
[01:59] <ctm54_> histo yes
[01:59] <histo> starredsteria: lsmod | grep rtl   see if the kernel is tryinjg to load drivers for your card
[01:59] <SilverLightEnJin> goodmorning.
[01:59] <starredsteria> histo: that didn't do anything...
[02:00] <histo> ctm54_: open a terminal and try sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient
[02:00] <hpuser89479> Installed ubuntu + lxde desktop with mini.iso.  Lubuntu software centre gives internal error after installing apps.
[02:00] <histo> starredsteria: lsmod | grep 819
[02:01] <starredsteria> nvidia only loaded
[02:01] <hpuser89479> <ubuntu 12.04 mini.iso + lxde desktop.
[02:01] <histo> starredsteria: nvm my blacklist comments then.  If you are using the same windows driver with ndiswrapper that your were using with 11.10 therre should be no issue.
[02:02] <ctm54_> histo both of those don't print anything and just return a new entry line
[02:02] <starredsteria> histo: lol keyword 'should'
[02:02] <hpuser89479> gpointing-device-settings app's desktop icon doesn't work in lxde also.  The .desktop file category line needs fixing.
[02:02] <starredsteria> histo: what would r8169 be?
[02:03] <histo> starredsteria: but according to wireless.kernel.org that rtl8190 is supported by the kernel. It looks like ubuntu had some bugs with lucid etc... but it should be working. I'd check launchpad and the forums for people with that card and precise
[02:04] <lubuntuHDD> hello -- I suspect errors on my computer's HDD (which cannot boot). Can I just run "fsck /dev/sda" from my live cd? or is there a better thing?
[02:04] <starredsteria> histo: I've already checked... I can try uninstalling and see if it will be supported by default. But I doubt it because upgrading to 12.04 removed a ndiswrapper package that I had to install manually
[02:04] <histo> ctm54_: Can you describe the problem you're having and what you've tried to fix it for me?
[02:04] <edlang> Hi - does anyone know where I can find some details of system administrator training and certification for Ubuntu?
[02:05] <edlang> Preferably in Australia
[02:05] <hpuser89479> i mean the gpointing-device-settings MENU ICON doesn't show up in lxde desktop's menu.
[02:05] <ctm54_> histo my machine won't connect to the internet via ethernet...when i tell it to connect auto with dhcp it spins and then disconnects, when i do it manual it says it's connected but i can't access the internet or even ping the router...built this machine myself and it's my first build so i'm not ruling out a hardware issue
[02:06] <ctm54_> histo p.s. ethernet is the only network interface my machine has, i'm using the port that's right on my motherboard
[02:06] <JokesOnYou77> lubuntuHDD: you could always try and boot from a tool like Spinrite but if you're familiar with the command line tools I'd say that you're better off using the live CD
[02:06] <histo> ctm54_: does it have a solid link light by where they cable plugs in on themachine and the router?
[02:07] <Lirth> I'm getting a problem with my "gnome-keyring". I have no idea what this means. It happens when I try to run steam after I tried to reinstall.
[02:07] <histo> lubuntuHDD: yeah fsck it
[02:07] <lubuntuHDD> JokesOnYou77: I can use the commandline tools -- I've just never tried to run fsck on a whole disk before
[02:08] <ctm54_> histo link led on my box is blinking red, router doesn't have those on the port but the light on the front is blinking blue
[02:08] <starredsteria> histo: wireless .kernal.org is actually telling me it is unsupported
[02:09] <starredsteria> histo: rtl819x is.. but under that says RTL8190P PCI is listed under unsupported
[02:09] <ctm54_> histo but same cable/router port works on other machines and different cable going to linux box same problem
[02:09] <JokesOnYou77> lubuntuHDD: Me neither.  I usually pop in a liveCD with a GUI and run palimpsest to run a few diagnostics to confirm any theories I have before doing anything else.  I suspect that running fsck on the whole disk would definitely be an overnight task though
[02:10] <escott> lubuntuHDD, you cannot fsck sda there is no fileystem to check
[02:10] <escott> lubuntuHDD, if you think the drive is bad install smartmontools
[02:10] <lubuntuHDD> thanks! I'll try those things
[02:11] <histo> ctm54_: lspci | grep Ethernet
[02:11] <genii-around> lubuntuHDD: Some bios will also halt before booting if you have SMART monitoring enabled
[02:11] <Jon--> Upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, sound now comes out of both headphones and speakers at the same time. Help?
[02:11] <histo> starredsteria: that's what I said earlier unless it's an 8190p or 8190usb it should work
[02:11] <ctm54_> histo NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
[02:12] <genii-around> ( and warn your hd is developing bad sectors, etc , back up, etc )
[02:12] <histo> starredsteria: So now we know you definately need ndiswrapper. I would make sure you are using the exact same windows driver as you did with 11.10 since you know that was working.
[02:13] <escott> Jon--, intel HDA?
[02:16] <histo> ctm54_: well if you're shure the cable and router are okay then the card must be faulty
[02:16] <starredsteria> histo: Yep.. using from the CD... XP 86 version. (none of the others work anyway)
[02:17] <ctm54_> histo so if i buy another wireless card it will work? it can't be an issue of my router not talking to machine correctly somehow?
[02:18] <starredsteria> histo: do you think setting a manual address work? I know I couldn't connect at all when disabling ipv6....
[02:18] <histo> ctm54_: or possibly your router isn't setup for dhcp and when you specified and ip it was outside the subnet
[02:18] <starredsteria> I'm about ready to scrap the wifi card and get a new one :(
[02:18] <histo> ctm54_: there are plenty of issues it "could" be. I would try another machine connected the router. Or slap another nic in your machine and try that.
[02:18] <histo> starredsteria: well I may have found something
[02:19] <infinitux> I disabled the flash plugin in chrome because it keeps loading with the system wide flash plugin and crashing as a result. How can I point chrome at the system wide flash plugin as to fix my shockwave flash player crash issue?
[02:20] <tinkster> ubuntu 12.04, dhcp networking ... I can't seem to get name resolution going.  Other clients (e.g. SLES, debian squeeze) on dhcp get a resolv.conf from the dhcp server and are happy.  On the ubunut host it stays a symlink to an empty file
[02:20] <histo> starredsteria: i've found a few forum posts of people who have found a realtek driver
[02:20] <tinkster> how do I make this work?
[02:20] <Lirth> I'm trying to run a program and I for some reason nothing happens. What does it mean when I get this as an output? http://pastebin.com/daeVTsrx
[02:21] <Jon--> escott, Do you want lspci outout?
[02:21] <Jon--> output*
[02:21] <escott> Lirth, you need to install gnome-keyring:i386
[02:21] <escott> Jon--, sure
[02:21] <Jon--> escott, Also, yes.
[02:22] <escott> Jon--, i just want to know the chipset
[02:22] <Lirth> escott: I'm fairly new to ubuntu. How would I go about doing that?
[02:22] <Jon--> escott, http://pastie.org/4229260
[02:22] <escott> !apt-get | Lirth
[02:22] <Jon--> Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[02:22] <histo> starredsteria: nvm looks like they are confused
[02:23] <Lirth> escott: So just type sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring:i386 into the terminal?
[02:23] <escott> Jon--, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA. if you want to you can use the hda_analyzer tool to fiddle with registers
[02:23] <escott> Lirth, yep
[02:23] <whit3b0y> Whats the best package to use as a proxy server between two versions of Apache
[02:23] <Lirth> escott: thanks
[02:23] <Jon--> escott, Why did this break on dist upgrade?
[02:23] <histo> infinitux: mv the flashplugin in your ~
[02:23] <whit3b0y> need to hide the fact that one is running on 81 and the other 80
[02:23] <escott> Jon--, new kernel, assumes a different layout for the pins
[02:24] <Lirth> escott: new problem http://pastebin.com/EUw4aHeV
[02:24] <andygraybeal_> seems vino server keeps taking a lot of cpu -- i wonder if there is a fix or something to replace vino with - i'm in 10.04
[02:24] <Lirth> escott: That was from trying to get gnome-keyring
[02:24] <andygraybeal_> it looks like tightvnc is a good alternative
[02:24] <escott> Lirth, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. <<<< that about says it all
[02:25] <infinitux> histo: move it into ~? or into somewhere within ~/* ?
[02:25] <whit3b0y> noone?
[02:25] <Lirth> escott: so how would I fix it?
[02:25] <escott> !best | whit3b0y
[02:25] <escott> Lirth, remove your holds
[02:25] <Lirth> escott: Could you explain that?
[02:25] <whit3b0y> escott - I've never used one
[02:25] <infinitux> histo: you still there?
[02:25] <Jon--> escott, No change.
[02:26] <Jon--> I adjusted volumes and set capture device with space, I still get audio through headphone jack AND PC speakers.
[02:26] <whit3b0y> I don't even know of a name of one...whats most popular or easiest to setup?
[02:26] <escott> Lirth, the error message indicates that you have enabled holds on certain packages. unless thats incorrect you would need to disable those holds
[02:26] <Lirth> escott: I don't know how to enable the holds nor how to disable the holds. How would I go about that?
[02:26] <escott> whit3b0y, the most common proxy is squid
[02:27] <Jon--> plus capture is recording isn't it?
[02:27] <escott> !pinning | Lirth
[02:28] <whit3b0y> Will Squid allow me to mask the fact my second apache is running on port 81?
[02:28] <escott> whit3b0y, im sure it can
[02:29] <Lirth> escott: I don't even know what I have holds on. How would I find that out?
[02:29] <escott> Lirth, read the link ubottu sent you on pinning. if you dont have anything held then its something else about that package configuration
[02:30] <starredsteria> histo: lol it happens
[02:30] <escott> Jon--, nothing you do in alsa is going to make a difference. you need to tell the kernel with a module argument to assume a different board layout, or tweak the layout with hda_analyzer
[02:31] <histo> infinitux: you wanted to use the system wide flash plugin instead of one in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:31] <Jon--> escott, Well that just sounds lovely. I have hda analyzer open, just try enabling/disabling layouts until I find it?
[02:31] <histo> infinitux: righT?
[02:31] <Lirth> escott: How would I tell if I've put a hold on anything
[02:33] <escott> Jon--, the easiest way to do this is to boot your old kernel. run hda_analyzer in monitor mode, and see what it changes when you plug in your headphones. then you can boot the new kernel and apply those changes to the pins to make it switch
[02:33] <Jon--> escott, I think I removed my old kernel. That's going to be a pain in the ass.
[02:34] <Jon--> escott, Should I notice a diff in monitor mode if I plug/unplug with this kernel setup? I get no change in the GUI or in my CLI output here, but I do get audio out.
[02:35] <escott> Jon--, depends. it might be seeing the press detect and enabling the headphone jack but not disabling the speakers in which case you just need to find the speaker pin and turn it off. or it might be missing the press detect entirely in which case you have to find both pins
[02:36] <Jon--> escott, I'm a developer, relatively new to Linux I suppose, and confused as hell. Very few pins even have enable/disable options in hda... -_-''
[02:36] <Jon--> by pins do you mean nodes?
[02:37] <Jon--> Nevermind, I'm being dumb. I'll get back to you in 5ish.
[02:37] <escott> Jon--, the headphone jack pin is the easiest to find because it will have a press detect capability. im pretty sure they were called pins, been a long time since i've looked at the gui
[02:39] <Jon--> escott, I've found the pin for my headphones but it does not offer the ability to disable, if I untick out, it still plays fine....
[02:40] <escott> Jon--, its been so long since ive looked at that gui. i think there is an output checkbox
[02:40] <starredsteria> histo: ... omg.... Trendnet didn't list any update to the driver... sure enough though when I installed the one from the website instead of the one from the cd... it working great so far!
[02:40] <Jon--> escott, There's IN OUT and HP, and they don't seem to be doing anything at all.
[02:41] <escott> Jon--, you could change what input it has selected. i know it can be done, i just dont know whats on the screen. if you want to post a screenshot
[02:41] <Jon--> escott, Those checkboxes are the only editable part for my headphones, some other pins have volume sliders and other things.
[02:42] <Jon--> escott, I'd love to, except gnome-screenshot completely broke on upgrade to 12.04. I have a ticket in. Ubuntu has so many bugs after upgrading -_-
[02:43] <doofy> anyone have suggestions on the easiest way to get ubuntu installed on my macbook pro with gfx switching for the 2 cards in the easiest way possible? I can't seem to put all of the different pieces together (EFI boot, gfx switching, etc)
[02:43] <Jon--> It doesn't save to ~/Pictures as it is supposed to due to upstream changes, does not prompt me to save screenshot, nor does it copy anything to clipboard. I created a bug report a month ago, not a single person has responded. I'm not pleased with 12.04 so far, to say the least.
[02:44] <whit3b0y> escott, thanks m7
[02:44] <whit3b0y> m8
[02:45] <Jon--> escott, Do what you can, I'm not trying to troll or complain about Ubuntu, but I literally cannot take a screenshot due to another bug, which I am 99% sure I'll have to reinstall (problem from upgrading distributions), or is specific and will need a bug-fix. In either case, it is not usable now, even purging and reinstalling the package :(
[02:49] <histo> starredsteria: that's cool
[02:52] <starredsteria> histo: pretty lame at the same time lol
[02:54] <histo> starredsteria: what's lame?
[02:55] <arulmozhi> When I download Blender build from graphicall.org and eztract them into home folder with executable permission. The blender will be launched if I dbl clikck the blender program in the extracted folder. But in Ubuntu 12.04 it is not the case. it just stay low... not execution... wat to do?? urgent
[03:02] <brainwave> how to see if a particular driver is installed in my ubuntu?
[03:02] <jQr> I have a fun issue: I have my old mail backup from when I used Mac Mail. it's in some format that has folders called .mbox and they contain Info.plist files. I'd like to convert them to actual .mbox files. Any ideas? The eventual goal is to upload them to gmail, so if I can skip the middle step somehow, I'm all ears.
[03:03] <genii-around> brainwave: If it's available at all" modprobe -l | grep drivername     ... if it's loaded: lsmod | grep drivername
[03:04] <Justrouble> Hello, can anyone help? I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and I can't get the internet to work. How would I go about correcting this?
[03:05] <histo> Justrouble: are you in ubuntu now on the machine?
[03:06] <Justrouble> No, I'm in Windows.
[03:07] <Justrouble> I checked the dell web site and it was no help at all.
[03:07] <Justrouble> Unless I missed something.
[03:07] <tinkster> resolvconf guru anyone?
[03:09] <alex2020> how to I compile and install this:https://github.com/Mach5/supersonic
[03:09] <alex2020> here are the instructions
[03:09] <alex2020> https://github.com/Mach5/supersonic/blob/master/INSTALL
[03:10] <alex2020> Im im new to linux...
[03:10] <alex2020> can you put the codes I need to do on pastbin
[03:11] <nenicholas> I have an e-mail worm (sending e-mails to my contact list) and I have NO idea how to stop it on Linux.  I haven't been able to download and successfully use a Linux based anti-virus.  I did run ClamTk, but it didn't find anything.  Can anyone help?
[03:12] <Justrouble> I may have found my answer. Did a blanket search on Google. Found the problem solved for 11.04 so I assume it will work on 12.04. Here's hoping, and thanks for trying.
[03:14] <usr13__> nenicholas: The answer is that it is not coming from your computer.
[03:15] <usr13__> nenicholas: Bottom line is that you can't stop it.
[03:15] <nenicholas> usr13__: Oh...really?
[03:18] <usr13__> alex2020: pastebinit
[03:19] <semitones_irssi> hello! new to this channel here -- I was just wondering if you can use fsck to check every partition it can find on a disk? I've only used it to check individual partitions before... thanks!
[03:19] <semitones_irssi> with this nick anyway :) my quassel is down
[03:20] <coolpro> when I turn on a pc, I get the error; i386_start_kernel+0xa9/0xb0 can anyone explain, why?
[03:20] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: You have to tall fsck which partitions to check.  See:  man fsck
[03:20] <uw> so i have apache installed and working, however i would like the contents of certain directories visiable.  anybody know how i would go about doing that?
[03:21] <uw> is it just a permissions thing or something else
[03:22] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Actually, you can use the -A option.
[03:23] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: with the -A  option, fsck  will  default  to  checking  filesystems  in /etc/fstab serially.
[03:24] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: I've never done it that way, so I dono, but what I will tell you is that the partition(s) should not be mounted when you rnu fsck against them.
[03:24] <nenicholas> If I have an e-mail worm...do I have to close my e-mail account and open a new one?  To stop the e-mails being sent out from my account?
[03:24] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: thanks a lot for your advice! I'm using a livecd now, so I think it should be ok to do -A
[03:25] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Go for it...
[03:26] <alex2020> so can someone help?
[03:26] <ramboIII> ciao
[03:26] <ramboIII> lista
[03:26] <johnjohn1011> was thinking of new computer equipment. any recommendations for new video, intel or amd (on board cpu). or nvidia?
[03:26] <alex2020> Go with intel
[03:27] <johnger> hola
[03:27] <johnger> n
[03:27] <usr13__> alex2020: Well, it says:  sudo apt-get install maven2 openjdk-6-jdk
[03:27] <alex2020> then what? I need to complie it, and itall it. I don't know how to do that
[03:28] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: intel or nvidia video, intel cpu
[03:28] <johnjohn1011> alex2020, so onboard graphics with sandy or ivy bridge?
[03:28] <usr13__> alex2020: Yea, that is the first step, those are "the packages needed to build Supersonic"
[03:29] <johnjohn1011> genii-around: why not any of the AMD FM1 chips?
[03:29] <alex2020> but then what? sorry if I sound rude... but im new to linux.
[03:29] <usr13__> alex2020: Probably need to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[03:30] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: My recommendation is just from personal experience where most of the AMD chipsets I've worked with either had overheating issues or needed special drivers
[03:30] <usr13__> alex2020: It says the second step is:  sudo dpkg -i subsonic-installer-debian/target/supersonic-<version number>.deb
[03:30] <Pici> alex2020: It looks like theres an easier to setup version of that software at http://www.subsonic.org
[03:30] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: Almost all Intel stuff "just works"
[03:31] <Pici> alex2020: I highly suggest that you use that unless theres something that you really need from this fork.
[03:31] <usr13__> alex2020: (That would be after you've downloaded the subsonic-installer I suppose
[03:31] <johnjohn1011> genii-around: yeah, i have the cheapest intel board and can usually run the live cd in 3d right off the bat
[03:32] <usr13__> alex2020: It is always best to install what ever software you need from the package manager.
[03:33] <u_just_got_nayna> lol
[03:36] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: can I do something like "fsck /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2" ?
[03:37] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: I would suggest one at a time.  Do you suspect a problem?  Why are you doing it?
[03:37] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: you probably want to use the  -y  switch
 alex2020: It says the second step is:  sudo dpkg -i subsonic-installer-debian/target/supersonic-<version number>.deb  what does it mean by: target/supersonic-<version number>.deb
[03:38] <usr13__> alex2020: Did you see Pici's advice?
[03:39] <alex2020> Im not taking his/her advice
[03:39] <usr13__> alex2020: Ok, that is up to you.
[03:40] <alex2020> but does it mean by the /target?
[03:40] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: I had lubuntu installed, but about a month ago it crashed, wouldn't boot up, and failed to reinstall. I think the harddisk might have a bad spot somewhere on it keeping me from using linux.
[03:41] <Need2Grow> linux is named after peanuts character linus?
[03:42] <usr13__> Need2Grow: No
[03:42] <histo> Need2Grow: try again
[03:43] <usr13__> Need2Grow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:43] <histo> Need2Grow: linus torvalds
[03:44] <Need2Grow> thats what i meant
[03:45] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Do the partitions one at a time.  e.g.  fsck -y /dev/sda1
[03:46] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: If you really must do both with one command:  fsck -y /dev/sda1 ; fack -y /dev/sda2
[03:46] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: If you want to see what you have:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:47] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Actually, the fsck commands must be run as super-user so:  sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1 ; sudo fsck -y /dev/sda2
[03:48] <reuf> i want to search bash history for a command containing certain string - how do i go about this?
[03:48] <usr13__> reuf: history |grep <string>
[03:49] <launch> qql connais ladresse http://www.google.com ?
[03:50] <launch> avant jallais sur http://www.yahoo.com ?
[03:51] <Pici> !fr | launch
[03:53] <launch> i like http://www.google.com nice address
[03:54] <tinkster> lol
[03:54] <uw> anybody here know apache?
[03:55] <uw> trying to set up a public directory to share files
[03:55] <usr13__> uw: Ask your question and see.
[03:55] <AcidRain2012> uw: why not do ftp?
[03:55] <semitones_chatzi> usr13__: hey -- i dc/d there.. did you suggest the -y flag for automatically fixing things with fsck?
[03:56] <usr13__> semitones_chatzi: Yes
[03:56] <semitones_chatzi> ok giving it a shot, thanks!
[03:56] <usr13__> semitones_chatzi: But not on fat or ntfs or.. other non linux partitions.
[03:57] <launch> I also like http://www.yahoo.com when http://www.google.com dont work
[03:58] <usr13__> uw: ... or you may be interested in  nfs
[03:58] <usr13__> !nfs | uw
[03:59] <Lymphocyte> how do i defrag?
[03:59] <uw> id like to set up a directory where users can browse files through a browser
[03:59] <usr13__> Lymphocyte: No need....
[03:59] <Lymphocyte> i mean defrag free space?
[03:59] <usr13__> Lymphocyte: You don't defrag free space
[04:00] <sertaconay> Lymphocyte you can use ubuntu-tweak to clear download caches.
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> well i ran e2freefrag and got
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> Num. free extent: 154190
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> 154190 free space fragments
[04:00] <L3top> !defrag | Lymphocyte
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> so basically the only way is to backup and restore?
[04:00] <uw> usr13__, these people wont have anyway to use NFS
[04:01] <L3top> read.
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> cuz i delete about 2 million files on a 3 year old ext4 FS
[04:01] <L3top> read.
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> read what?
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> That is a dead link
[04:02] <launch> sometime http://www.ubuntu.com may seem better than http://www.ubuntu.org
[04:02] <L3top> oops... so it is. Sorry. One second Lymphocyte.
[04:02] <Dayofswords> L3top:  yep, dead link, it's a parked domain now
[04:03] <Lymphocyte> yeah i know ext4 dosent need defragmenting but... 150K+ free space fragments that will just cause more fragmentation
[04:04] <anderson> hola
[04:04] <Need2Grow> are-ola
[04:05] <anderson> alguien de colombia
[04:06] <L3top> !es | anderson
[04:06] <dax> anderson: try #ubuntu-co
[04:06] <anderson> ok
[04:08] <L3top> Lymphocyte: if you believe you need to, then yes... backup and restore is the best way to do it... but there are tools that will address it. I just am not sure it is really going to gain you anything due to the journaling system.
[04:08] <Rikun> Need help with corrupted USB.  Will Ubuntu help me find those files?
[04:09] <L3top> You will have to give more details Rikun.
[04:09] <Rikun> Of course.
[04:10] <Rikun> I have a USB that got corrupted by improper ejection.  It now says I have to reformat before I can use again.
[04:10] <zamn> hey where can i find all of the options for .desktop files?
[04:10] <L3top> is this in windows Rikun?
[04:10] <Rikun> I was told that using Ubuntu will allow me to mount this USB and extract the files.
[04:10] <Rikun> Yes, it happened on Windows.
[04:11] <L3top> It is certainly possible, but far from guaranteed Rikun. There are tools on both sides of the fence which can help.
[04:12] <L3top> However in linux you can force it to mount... but it might not be the best approach Rikun.
[04:12] <Rikun> Really?  If there's a Windows tool I can use I'd love to hear it.
[04:13] <L3top> check in ##windows Rikun.
[04:15] <ki4ro> .
[04:15] <tr3nton> In this screenshot, the lens is selected as a drop down list from the search bar. Does anyone know how to use this instead of icons at the bottom of the screen? http://i.stack.imgur.com/cdL2l.png
[04:16] <yggdrasil> is there a way to turn off the monitor in an x session from a ssh session?
[04:16] <yggdrasil> like dpms it
[04:17] <_Andrew> Can anyone link me to documentation on how to do a command line install like on the alternative cd but using the DVD release? The DVD release is the only version that boots on my mac mini.
[04:17] <MageofHope> Hello; how would I add this workaround to a program's code?
[04:17] <MageofHope> https://github.com/ebihara/touchegg-mirror/commit/11e4b3d6cc0ca313ec0d29f45546eb3b9850d187
[04:17] <_Andrew> I want a headless server
[04:19] <hylian> Hello all.
[04:29] <doggy_> a
[04:31] <dooglus> something's going horribly wrong with this laptop.  it's really slow
[04:32] <dooglus> taking up to 5 minutes to open a local mp3 file for instance
[04:32] <dooglus> I suspect either the encrypted home filesystem or a hard drive failure - how can I find out which, if either it is?
[04:32] <dooglus> and what happened to this channel?  it used to be busy
[04:39] <Dan-mc> hey im on 10.04 on my server and is there a way to get sun-java6-jdk on my syste
[04:39] <Dan-mc> system*
[04:40] <Giovanik2012> ciao
[04:40] <Giovanik2012> !lista
[04:43] <coolstar> Can someone direct me to the dev channel?
[04:44] <jrdnn> coolstar: ubuntu-devel
[04:45] <Dan-mc> is there a way to get sun-java6-jdk on my server
[04:45] <Canadian1296> What install disk do I need to download for a 64 bit computer that is not AMD. I tried the AMD64 one, and it didn't boot. So what do I need? I'm positive the computer is 64 bit, as I ran ubuntu 10.04 64 bit on it.
[04:45] <coolstar> jrdnn: I went there, and the topic said it's #ubuntu-app-devel
[04:46] <jrdnn> coolstar: Sorry.
[04:46] <Canadian1296> nevermind, it just booted.
[04:50] <[flux]> Ubuntu 9.04 is installed on my laptop, and I want to upgrade it to 12.04.
[04:51] <andrewh192> hey, was wondering what room i would go to to get help with installing something via a command line
[04:51] <[flux]> I have a live disc, can someone tell me how to go about it?
[04:52] <andrewh192> i am not sure [flux] but I think you should be able to boot with the live disk and then just install from there..
[04:52] <eth0h4cker> Need help with keeping mdadm raid intact after fresh os install.
[04:52] <[flux]> andrewh192: And it will upgrade?
[04:52] <eth0h4cker> Anyone point me to a good guide?
[04:53] <andrewh192> [flux]: i am not sure to be honest, never really had to do that. But i think u might also be able to go to the update center and it should give you a list of ways to upgrade to 12.04 as well.. not that much experience with upgrading to a new version myself but that would seem like a good place to start
[04:54] <[flux]> Ah okay
[04:54] <[flux]> Hmm
[04:54] <[flux]> Seems like I can Erase and install
[04:54] <[flux]> Might as well
[04:55] <andrewh192> hey, would u know what channel i would be able to find some help with installing programs via a command line?
[04:56] <uw> andrewh192, make install?
[04:57] <uw> probably configure, make, make install
[04:57] <andrewh192> ok, i was having alot of error messages coming up when i was just "making" it
[04:57] <andrewh192> wasn't sure why
[04:58] <andrewh192> tryin to install a program called SoX - Sound eXchange
[04:58] <andrewh192> and it wasn't going so well... wasn't sure why though...
[04:59] <andrewh192> use of C99 long long integer constant [-Wlong-long] was just one of the error messages that i got
[05:00] <Pici> andrewh192: sox is in the package repositories.  sudo apt-get install sox
[05:01] <ovnicraft> hello i recently install a pptp services in my ubuntu now clients are connected but just they just can ping to IP server
[05:01] <ovnicraft> but between them can't ping
[05:01] <al3x> [flux]: boot it and see what it says... make sure it offers ugrade as an option or something before you commit to an install...i have never upgraded ubuntu, so i cant tell you anything for sure
[05:01] <ovnicraft> i am in 10.04 server edition
[05:01] <ovnicraft> usung pptpd services
[05:02] <ovnicraft> s/usung/using
[05:03] <andrewh192> cool, thanx for the info Pici
[05:03] <andrewh192> got it installed and working... :-) yay!!
[05:22] <dan64> on Ubuntu, in which file is /usr/local/bin added to the PATH?
[05:23] <dan64> I checked /etc/profile and ~/.profile
[05:25] <TeknoJuce> is it possible to open multi screen sessions via screenrc not (-t)
[05:25] <apremalal> hi
[05:25] <dooglus> dan64: maybe /etc/environment ?
[05:25] <apremalal> how can i set the path variable permanently in ubuntu?
[05:26] <apremalal> i tried by editing profile
[05:26] <apremalal> ad tried export command
[05:26] <apremalal> but when i close the terminal PAHT does not exist
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: log out and in again?
[05:27] <apremalal> dooglus, ok let me see
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: or what are you trying to do?  if you set it in .profile, it will be defined in child processes of any shell you run
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: if you want it set in something that wasn't run from a shell, put in it .xprofile
[05:31] <apremalal> dooglus, i tried by log out and printenv PATH.but my path is not there
[05:32] <apremalal> dooglus,
[05:32] <apremalal> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
[05:32] <apremalal>     PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH:/home/anuruddha/Programs/android-ndk-r8"
[05:32] <apremalal> fi
[05:32] <FloodBot1> apremalal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <apremalal> dooglus, above is the edited profile
[05:33] <Sphinx> backtrack
[05:37] <dan64> dooglus, that's it, thanks
[05:46] <pablo_> hola
[05:49] <Gini> I need some help since I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice I have been unable to open my old Open Office password protected odt files. I've checked the Ubuntu help files and the problem seems to be connected to Firefox, but I cannot understand the solutions posted. I have uninstalled Firefox and uninstalled and reinstalled LibreOffice but that did not help.
[05:51] <crimsonmane_> gini, in the chat here, type without the quotations "/join #libreoffice"
[05:51] <Gini> Thanks!
[05:52] <Gini> join #libreoffice
[05:52] <crimsonmane_>  /
[05:52] <crimsonmane_> at the beginning
[05:52] <crimsonmane_> that's their channel, it'll be slow to get an answer but if anyone knows, they should.
[05:56] <jagginess> Gini, if you lost your password or wiped out your old machine, theres' a company working on a product here http://lastbit.com/OpenOffice/default.asp
[06:01] <grendal> hey just out of curiosity..does anybody actually use unity?
[06:02] <cvr> grendal: no
[06:02] <jagginess> grendal, for me its forbidden
[06:02] <jagginess> grendal, more like diss-unity for me..
[06:03] <grendal> talk about a piece of crap
[06:03] <grendal> whos idea was that?
[06:03]  * jagginess believes at least gnomes-hell is better :) ahem.. gnome-shell i mean :)
[06:03] <grendal> i mean i get they whole single desktop several screen size things but.
[06:04] <grendal> come on...work on the thing that works... 10.04 had the most functional desktop of any os hands down..and they striped that out?
[06:04] <crimsonmane_> 10.04 popped my linux cherry
[06:05] <grendal> I keep thinking its going to get better...i keep just switching it back to gnome classic
[06:05] <grendal> i hate to be a downer an all that but..why the hell cant you just create a launcher on your desktop?
[06:06] <grendal> it is very bazar
[06:08] <grendal> oh oh and a huge one for me..i use quanta plus..well i use to
[06:09] <grendal> i see no way of installing this unless you are upgrading and its already on the machine?
[06:09] <dooglus> try xfce4 grendal?  i like it
[06:10] <grendal> i like gnome...i just got use to useing it..
[06:10] <dooglus> ok
[06:10] <grendal> it just seems like just a huge mistake changing the default desktop ..
[06:11] <jagginess> grendal, yes.. once you do.. unity gets broked if you try to set it back on..
[06:11] <grendal> anyway..anybody on how to get quanta plus installed on a 1204 gnome desktop?
[06:12] <grendal> na jagginessi have both i can switch between them i just dont see unity getting the things fixed that need to be fixe
[06:12] <robert45> hi guys, how can I automatically exclude a package isnide apt config file ?
[06:12] <grendal> d
[06:13] <grendal> I have had no problems migrating customers to the 10.04 desktop from mac and windows platforms..but 12.04 they are like  "how does this work again?"
[06:14] <jagginess> grendal, ubuntusoft center is slow, there's synaptic..
[06:14] <mflum> Where can I find help with a failed Java 7 Install
[06:15] <grendal> jagginess ya, accept that package is not available in any repo..and ya that software center is a nightmare
[06:16] <grendal> i gave up on that thing like 2 days after 12.04 upgrade
[06:16] <grendal> its got more adds than the vegas strip
[06:17] <Guest80581> hi. im trying to install ubuntu 12.x onto a thumb drive from the "preview" version of Ubuntu. using the installer on the desktop, i get to the partition page. but i dont know which listing is my thumb drive. how do i find out?
[06:18] <jrdnn> Guest80581: It should start with da, if not unplug your thumb drive, refresh the list, see which entry is gone,. plug it back in, refresh, install to that entry
[06:20] <Guest80581> would it be bad if the "preview" version is -on- the thumb drive?
[06:21] <jrdnn> Guest80581: That would probably crash then, unless it loaded everything to memory :/
[06:22] <Guest80581> hhmm..
[06:22] <Guest80581> after this vid, ill try it
[06:23] <grendal> you should be able to run it from a thumb drive..ive done that several times
[06:23] <Guest80581> if u dont see me later, thanks
[06:23] <jordan__> Can you make scripts like a windows batch file in ubuntu?
[06:23] <grendal> create a startup disk on the thumb drive
[06:23] <jrdnn> jordan__: Google "learn bash scripting"
[06:24] <jordan__> jrdnn, k thanks.
[06:26] <extraymond> Hi I got a problem with liferea, gwoffice and lightread, in which I'm no longer able to access my google account.
[06:26] <extraymond> Anyone can help me? Thank you!
[06:30] <Gini> Thank you Jagginess
[06:32] <brightbeat> yo
[06:32] <brightbeat> so many ppl, no questions!
[06:34] <Blue1> indeed
[06:41] <OliveiraBorges> hi, i need help with dkim files, anybody can help me
[06:41] <Lymphocyte> does installing ia32-libs cause performance hit?
[06:41] <OliveiraBorges> i show you the name error
[06:42] <Lymphocyte> does installing ia32-libs cause performance hit?
[06:43] <OliveiraBorges> what ?
[06:44] <jrdnn> Lymphocyte: Only if it makes you almost out of disk space
[06:44] <Lymphocyte> but the ia32-libs will only load when needed right?
[06:44] <Lymphocyte> android sdk
[06:45] <OliveiraBorges> you talk with me ?
[06:46] <jrdnn> Lymphocyte: Shared objects/libraries are just loaded when a program uses them and only loaded once across the system
[06:48] <OliveiraBorges> when i try restart the dkim-filter show the error : failed to kill 8849: no such process, what i do ?
[06:52] <kbotnen> hi, is there any mechanism that allow regular users to use the update-alternatives system? without sudo?
[06:54] <rypervenche> kbotnen: Yep. suid or guid
[06:56] <kbotnen> rypervenche, like suid the needed symlinks?
[06:56] <fidel> ahoi
[06:56] <kbotnen> I tried to create a script that inviked with the update-alternatives and suid on that, but that did not work actually.
[06:56] <krr> Hello, do someone have experience with Varnish caching?
[06:56] <rypervenche> kbotnen: suid the update-alternatives binary.
[06:58] <hipitihop> Anyone know what the magic incantation is to get second monitor supported on a gigabyte nvidia GTX 560
[07:00] <kbotnen> rypervenche, I could try that. sounds a bit scary though, security wise. but thanks for the tip.
[07:01] <rypervenche> kbotnen: Always is, security wise.
[07:02] <rypervenche> kbotnen: You could also make sudo passwordless for that one command.
[07:02] <kbotnen> I just want users to switch between versions of certain specific programs, not to be able to ruin the whole system or open a potential security risk :)
[07:05] <joubin> If there are any ubuntu developers here, I just like to say thank you for doing what you do
[07:08] <ryannathans> how does one change the 'res' of their term? I'm not using a gui
[07:15] <Dayofswords> ryannathans: you have a gui right now?
[07:20] <voldyman> can ubuntu-bug or apport-bug work with third party apps??
[07:21] <extraymond> test hi
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: i think it is only intended for software that ubuntu can bug fix
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: or at least send the reports upstream
[07:22] <voldyman> auronandace, i thought it helped file a bug in launchpad
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: 3rd party apps are unsupported
[07:23] <auronandace> voldyman: yes
[07:23] <voldyman> auronandace, is this documented somewhere ?
[07:24] <voldyman> in the man page firefox is given as an example
[07:24] <auronandace> voldyman: i'm not sure sorry, see if it has a man page?
[07:25] <gvandeweyer> is it possible to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.37+ on an ubuntu-10.4-lts server? I have an amd 6276 running but performance is low due to only basic support by the kernel.
[07:25] <gvandeweyer> and I'd rather not upgrade to 12.04 before the launch of 12.04.1-lts
[07:25] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: you can upgrade the kernel but you will lose support
[07:26] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: that is by manual download and compile then? apt-get linux-headers are blocked at a lower version
[07:27] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: yes, or by ppa but if you do we can't help you, it is unsupported
[07:27] <gvandeweyer> hmm
[07:28] <gvandeweyer> and would it be safe to install 12.04-lts yet ? (by cd/usb/image)
[07:28] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: sure, works great here
[07:28] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: and then I'd still have lts support? dist-upgrade does not give support untill release of 12.04.1
[07:28] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: i always fresh install (never upgrade, too much can go wrong)
[07:29] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | gvandeweyer
[07:29] <gvandeweyer> !upgrade
[07:30] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: i meant do-release-upgrade, my mistake
[07:31] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: now you know the difference, many people make the same mistake
[07:32] <LostyJai> hey guys, i'm running 10.04LTS with ntp 4.2.4p8
[07:32] <LostyJai> is there any way to upgrade that?
[07:33] <auronandace> !info ntp lucid
[07:33] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetooth
[07:33] <auronandace> LostyJai: not if you still want support
[07:34] <LostyJai> is there any way to get a newer version of ntp?
[07:34] <auronandace> LostyJai: not if you still want support
[07:34] <NoOova> hello all! My ubuntu freezs when system has more than 2gb
[07:34] <LostyJai> maybe upgrade to latest 12 LTS
[07:34] <NoOova> freezes after some time
[07:34] <NoOova> 1-10 minutes
[07:34] <NoOova> why it is possible
[07:35] <LostyJai> faulty ram?
[07:35] <LostyJai> this a vm?
[07:35] <auronandace> LostyJai: yes, that would get you a newer version (sorry, i thought you wanted to stick to 10.04)
[07:35] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetoot
[07:35] <LostyJai> auronandace: thanks
[07:35] <kristenbb> @escott hi, are you there?
[07:36] <NoOova> LostyJai: at 4 gb of ram windows is working ok (from usb stick) but my ubuntu freezes
[07:36] <NoOova> ram is not faulty
[07:36] <NoOova> i tried other rams
[07:36] <NoOova> with 2gb all ok
[07:36] <NoOova> with 4gb freezes =(
[07:37] <NoOova> memtest show no errors
[07:37] <NoOova> with night of testing
[07:37] <NoOova> and windows works ok
[07:37] <auronandace> !enter | NoOova
[07:38] <NoOova> auronandace: sorry, ok
[07:38] <aleksian_> 123
[07:40] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetoot
[07:40] <prats3113> Hi. Whenever I do a sudo apt-get upgrade, I get the following error:  Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-25-generic-pae) dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-generic-pae:  linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae; 
[07:40] <prats3113> Please help me out
[07:40] <auronandace> dileep: not sure what you are trying to accomplish with three words. maybe you'd like to ask for help, if so you'd need to provide details
[07:41] <killer_> hi...when i run vmware i get "several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel"
[07:41] <prats3113> I guess the entire error could not be pasted in one go
[07:41] <dileep> yes
[07:41] <auronandace> !vmware | killer_
[07:43] <dileep> help mp
[07:43] <prats3113> Hi. Can anyone help me out with my problem?
[07:43] <auronandace> dileep: how can anyone help? you haven't explained your problem
[07:44] <dooglus> prats3113: did you miss it?  he said "ubuntu miltilink bluetoot".  what more do you need??
[07:45] <besTKoDerEverR> hi guys
[07:45] <auronandace> prats3113: did you apt-get update before?
[07:45] <prats3113> dooglus: who said it? and what is ubuntu multilink bluetoot?
[07:45] <dileep> yes
[07:45] <besTKoDerEverR> should the JAVA_HOME variable be set in: .bashrc   or in /etc/enviroment file ? Or both??
[07:45] <prats3113> auronandace: yes I did. and it was successful. No errors.
[07:46] <auronandace> prats3113: how about: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:46] <dileep> ppp miltlink
[07:46] <prats3113> auronandace: gimme a minute, I'll try and get back to you.
[07:47] <prats3113> auronandace: Tried. But getting the same error.
[07:47] <vlt> Hello. I got this kernel msg in syslog: http://pastebin.com/GfKQsqHf   Where does this come from?
[07:48] <auronandace> prats3113: hmm, you haven't manually deleted anything under /boot have you?
[07:48] <prats3113> auronandace: No. I haven't.
[07:48] <prats3113> auronandace: Infact I havent deleted anything!
[07:48] <fiete> what is the standard mail server for ubuntu? procmail, sendmail, exim?
[07:48] <auronandace> !fixapt | prats3113
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> should the JAVA_HOME variable be set in: .bashrc   or in /etc/enviroment file ? Or both??
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> i guess in enviroment?
[07:50] <prats3113> ubottu: tried both the commands. getting the same error.
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> environment
[07:51] <auronandace> prats3113: i'm out of ideas
[07:51] <prats3113> auronandace: the file under /boot is missing right?
[07:51] <auronandace> prats3113: that appears to be the case
[07:52] <prats3113> auronandace: currently, versions 23,24 and 26 are present in the boot folder. 25 is not there?
[07:52] <prats3113> auronandace: can there be any hack for this?
[07:52] <auronandace> prats3113: can you repaste the error in a pastebin?
[07:53] <logiclord> I am looking for someone to configure my lan infrastructure using ubuntu in Delhi India ..... Any idea ?
[07:53] <vlt> !details | logiclord
[07:53] <prats3113> auronandace: haven't used pastebin before. will take some time.
[07:55] <MacroMan> I added a software repository to a text file to get some software a while ago, but now I'm getting an error using the update manager telling me the it couldn't download the repository index. Does anyone know where the text file is so I can remove the repository?
[07:55] <auronandace> logiclord: configure your lan infrastructure? sounds like a hardware thing
[07:55] <prats3113> auronandace: was quite easy. here's the link : http://pastebin.com/jnp6KGff
[07:55] <MacroMan> I've forgotten where it is.
[07:57] <auronandace> prats3113: silly suggestion: try installing that package
[07:58] <ui> Macroman: maybe /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <prats3113> auronandace: which one? there are dependency problems as well.
[07:59] <MacroMan> ui: Yup, got it thanks
[07:59] <ui> you're welcome
[08:02] <auronandace> prats3113: linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae
[08:02] <prats3113> auronandace: I think the main problem is with that missing file in /boot. If that is resolved, everything will be fine I guess. What do you think?
[08:03] <auronandace> prats3113: have you had a powercut or an unexpected restart (like overheating that interrupted an update)
[08:04] <prats3113> auronandace: Same error again. It starts with setting up linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae.....and then that Internal error:
[08:04] <prats3113> auronandace: No. Never.
[08:05] <auronandace> prats3113: i can't think of why that file isn't there
[08:05] <prats3113> auronandace: if I get a version25 file from somewhere and paste it in /boot, will it be OK?
[08:05] <brainwave> i need some help in ssh, i'm getting pubkey denied error
[08:05] <brainwave> ssh: Could not resolve hostname umask 077; test -d ~/.ssh || mkdir ~/.ssh ; cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys: Name or servicn
[08:06] <brainwave> this is the output of final step of ssh -v <hostname>
[08:06] <auronandace> prats3113: i'm not sure sorry
[08:06] <prats3113> auronandace: can you please check your /boot? is that file there in your system?
[08:07] <auronandace> prats3113: i don't use a pae system (mine is 64bit)
[08:07] <prats3113> auronandace: Oh, ok
[08:07] <Cyanure> How do I install gcc-4.8 ?
[08:08] <auronandace> !info gcc
[08:08] <auronandace> Cyanure: if you still want support, you don't
[08:08] <joelperez> i can't get my wireless card to work
[08:09] <Cyanure> auronandace, ok, do you know when it will be supported ?
[08:09] <joelperez> fresh install
[08:09] <joelperez> for a BCM4311
[08:09] <prats3113> auronandace: Thanks for your time. I'll figure out something.
[08:09] <hipitihop> I have borked my nvidia driver install, how can I reinstall the default current driver from cli
[08:09] <auronandace> Cyanure: i assume the next release would ship with it
[08:09] <joelperez> i even followed these instructions - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:09] <auronandace> prats3113: no worries :)
[08:09] <joelperez> could someone pleas help me
[08:09] <Cyanure> ok thx
[08:11] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem to connect to my ssh server. It says 'shared connection to myserver closed'. I think it has to do with me using a controlmaster, and an existing ssh connection with no pty allowed. Is it possible to create a tunnel with new rights from within the control master?
[08:11] <auronandace> Cyanure: my mistake, so far the next release seems to have 4.7
[08:11] <starbuck33> help
[08:11] <auronandace> !info gcc quantal | Cyanure
[08:12] <fidel> !ask > starbuck33
[08:12] <fidel> just crying help isnt that helpful ;)
[08:13] <starbuck33> sorry, i was writing in the wrong channel =D
[08:15] <joelperez> neither are these wireless drivers helpful!
[08:16] <auronandace> joelperez: broadcom isn't helpful, use a better wifi chip
[08:16] <lion> hello all can i install java to run faster firefox?
[08:17] <melvin_>   0012345
[08:17] <auronandace> lion: no
[08:17] <lion> why people say this on ubutnu software center?
[08:17] <auronandace> lion: why would you think java makes firefox faster?
[08:17] <lion> maybe some of codes to run faster firefox most have java for example that is a booster
[08:18] <auronandace> lion: no, that is utter rubbish
[08:18] <auronandace> lion: firefox doesn't depend upon java
[08:19] <lion> thanks for your answers :) bye
[08:20] <hipitihop> I have removed nvidia drivers, how can I force a reconfigure to detect and reinstall
[08:22] <moutaman> Question: Hi everybody, I am new to ubuntu development and python, i had created a hello world app with quickly , it work fine for the first time but after that when i try " quickly run" it give me this message "(widecloud:5603): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.interface' is not installed" , iam using 12.04, any ideas?
[08:22] <brainwave> anyone help me with ssh?
[08:22] <brainwave> i am getting pubkey denied error
[08:23] <moutaman> brainwave, did you setup the keys, try use ssh-keygen
[08:23] <brainwave> yes
[08:23] <brainwave> i set them up, then added them to ssh-agent
[08:24] <moutaman> brainwave, can you post the result when you try to connect?
[08:24] <brainwave> yes just a minute
[08:25] <brainwave> http://pastebin.com/dP5GtXft
[08:31] <moutaman> brainwave, try using ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id-dsa.pub "user@host -p 6000"
[08:32] <moutaman> brainwave, where id-dsa.pub is your pub key
[08:33] <McPels> hi
[08:34] <moutaman> brainwave, any new results
[08:34] <McPels> I received a file by blue tooth but i do not know where it's gone!
[08:35] <auronandace> McPels: there is a public folder under your home directory
[08:36] <sam1967> ive got an icon n the bottom left corner of my desktop.it looks like a globe. when i put my mouse over it it says posted image open url . then a url of a gif of a funeral which i did not post. any chance ive been hacked. its ubuntu 12.04
[08:36] <McPels> auronandace:  Tnx, it was necessary!
[08:37] <coder2> what are templates in ubuntu?
[08:40] <usr13__> coder2: Can you elaborate just a bit?
[08:41] <coder2> usr13__, as i click on desktop-->new document--->no templates installed| in ubuntu 12.04
[08:42] <usr13__> coder2: Well, templates you must download from various places...
[08:42] <usr13__> coder2: What do you need?
[08:43] <rtyg> .
[08:43] <riex> Hello. Someone here that know how much memory debian 64 bit can show with the normal kernel?
[08:43] <usr13__> coder2: If you have a set of templates on a MS Windows PC, you could copy them over...
[08:43] <usr13__> coder2: Is that your issue?
[08:43] <SwedeMike> riex: more than you are likely to have in the machine.
[08:43] <coder2> usr13__, i want that as i click on new document different option should open like librewriter document etc.
[08:44] <riex> SwedeMike: How much?
[08:45] <usr13__> coder2: Normally, we dont user a template for a new document.  It is up to the user how to fromat a new document.  Exactly what are you trying to do, maybe I can help you.
[08:45] <vlt> riex: 16 exabytes
[08:45] <SwedeMike> riex: terabytes of memory most likely. I can't find the limit.
[08:46] <dD0T> Two questions on shortcuts in 12.04. Is there a way to make Ctrl+Win+Arrow right/left move windows between monitors when they are already snapped to the edge? Also are there shortcuts to enable/disable secondary monitors (kind of like a beamer mode). Thanks.
[08:46] <riex> Ok only 64 bit or both?
[08:47] <SwedeMike> riex: 64bit or 32bit with PAE.
[08:47] <coder2> usr13__, i just want to use like in mac we have similar option for creating template for a xcode application , so why do we are not using that option given in ubuntu
[08:48] <sam1967> ive got an icon n the bottom left corner of my desktop.it looks like a globe. when i put my mouse over it it says posted image open url . then a url of a gif of a funeral which i did not post. any chance ive been hacked. its ubuntu 12.04
[08:48] <riex> SwedeMike:  Also debian?
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: what?
[08:49] <riex> I know ubuntu can
[08:49] <riex> The question was about debian. :P
[08:49] <mavericksam> Anyone knows about ldap client authentication in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: I am running debian stable with PAE 32bit kernel with 10 gigs of ram and it's working fine.
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: yes, I was talking about debian all along.
[08:51] <mavericksam> Openldap on ubuntu, anybody ??
[08:52] <riex> SwedeMike:  i Also run debian 32 bit. But it Can only show 3.8gb
[08:52] <riex> With the normal kernel
[08:52] <riex> :O
[08:52] <prats3113> auronandace: Hi. Just came back to tell you that my problem got solved.
[08:52] <SwedeMike> riex: you need to use the -bigmem kernel
[08:53] <prats3113> auronandace: I downloaded linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae_3.2.0-25.40_i386.deb using apt-get download. And then installed using dpkg -i method. Now, everything is back to normal. :)
[08:54] <riex> SwedeMike: Thx :)
[08:56] <usr13__> coder2: I don't have any experience with xcode applications, but I found a couple of sites that I think discuss this type of issue.  I'll share links if you like.
[08:56] <zatan> hey I have added new user on ubuntu server just ssh, but when i change user su username, its switch to new user, but do not show my home directory ?
[08:56] <usr13__> coder2: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSX_Debug_OpenOffice.org_using_XCode
[08:56] <coder2> usr13__, sure!
[08:56] <usr13__> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/759903/how-can-i-insert-source-code-from-xcode-into-openoffice-without-getting-an-parag
[08:57] <coder2> usr13__, i dont want xcode template all i want are default office templates of libre office
[08:57] <usr13__> zatan: How did you create the new user?
[08:58] <zatan> usr13__,  useradd username       and adduser username sudo
[08:58] <__sjh> anyone know of something like rsync (or a patch for rsync) that will take note of moved files? I have a scenario where a backup needs to run daily to a remote host, but there could be enough data moved in a day that the backup takes >24 hours
[08:58] <usr13__> coder2: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
[08:59] <optimight> Hi ...  How to initiate chat with freenode support?
[09:00] <usr13__> zatan:  Those scripts create home directory by defaut as far as I know.  What OS do you have installed.
[09:00] <zatan> usr13__, 12.04
[09:00] <zatan> lts
[09:00] <usr13__> zatan: Actually useradd does not.  adduser does
[09:01] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:01] <bonno> i i need help with xubuntu i go to xubuntu channel?
[09:01] <usr13__> zatan: With useradd, I suppose you have to do it manually...
[09:01] <cristian_c> How can I activate gestures with Ginn?
[09:01] <bekks> useradd -d /your/home -m
[09:01] <bekks> Of course useradd does create a home directory.
[09:01] <cristian_c> there is this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn
[09:01] <dD0T> Also is there any way to get programs to be consistent in the way they react to mousewheel stuff...there seems no central config for this and chrome not acting like gedit which doesn't act like terminal (and so on) gets old quick...
[09:02] <usr13__> zatan: You could just userdel and delete the new user and then use adduser
[09:02] <cristian_c> but I don't understand how to use it
[09:02] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:02] <zatan> usr13__, i will give a go
[09:02] <coder2> usr13__, i got my answer here is an template http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/simple-todo-list
[09:03] <usr13__> zatan: bekks is telling you how to simply create the home dir, so....  either way.
[09:03] <usr13__> coder2: Ok, well there you go.  (I didn't know...)
[09:04] <usr13__> coder2: Thanks for the info.
[09:04] <bonno> how i copy paste something in here?
[09:05] <compdoc> bonno, pastebin
[09:05] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/
[09:05] <usr13__> bonno: If it is just one line, highlight and hit middle mouse button.  If not use pastebin  or install and use pastebinit
[09:05] <bonno> i right click and there is not option copy.. (i wanna copy what you wrote for example)
[09:06] <bonno> how do i do that? pastebin?
[09:06] <usr13__> bonno: Use the mouse to highlight what you want to copy.
[09:07] <usr13__> bonno: When you get to where you want to dump it, hit middle mouse button.
[09:07] <bonno> middle mouse button works for a line.. but for many lines it shows some wierd chars on the paste
[09:07] <usr13__> works for me... I dono
[09:07] <usr13__> bonno: But you could do  Alt-c  and Alt-v  maybe...
[09:08] <usr13__> Sorry  Ctrl-c  and Ctrl-v
[09:08] <bonno> didnt thought of that lol
[09:08] <bonno> oh..its the same with middle mouse button anyway thanks
[09:08] <usr13__> bonno: I was wrong, it's not Alt  It is Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v
[09:09] <bonno> yeah mater i know the combo..thanks anyway :)
[09:09] <usr13__> bonno: Well, not totally, there are uses for one or the other.  The methods are similar but a little different in what you can do with them.
[09:10] <bonno> what are you refering to?
[09:11] <usr13__> bonno: Well, for instance, if you want to get two sections of text from two different places at once:  Hightligh one section, do Ctrl-c   Highlight another section. Go to where you want to dump, Ctrl-v will dump the first, middle mouse button will dump the second.
[09:12] <usr13__> bonno: But you would have to do it in that order, (Ctrl-v first and then must highlighting text second, because each time you highlight text, you will be able to dump the last highlighted text with middle mouse button).
[09:13] <bonno> so you say cntl+c and middle mouse button are different functions?
[09:13] <usr13__> Yes, a little different process.
[09:14] <bekks> Same process, different clipboards.
[09:14] <bonno> i get it :) thanks different functions .same job :p
[09:14] <bonno> oh..ok
[09:14] <usr13__> But as you can see, if you master how the work, it adds a bit of functionality to your ability to transfer text from one place to another.
[09:15] <usr13__> how *they* work.  (typo)
[09:16] <usr13__> bonno: Yea, bekks puts it more plainly / concise,  "Same process, different clipboards"
[09:16] <sassas123> jthan: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084160/
[09:16] <bonno> thanks man
[09:17] <usr13__> bonno: But sometimes, when  you are dumping to a terminal window with middle mouse button, you may have to use shift key.  (And Ctrl-v does not work there, so...)
[09:18] <bonno> cntl +zhift +c/v works though :p
[09:18] <bonno> *shift
[09:18] <usr13__> bonno: For instance if you are dumping text into the vim editor in a terminal window... I think you will need to use shift
[09:18] <mavericksam> ldap client fails through GUI in ubuntu 12.04..help ?
[09:18] <bonno> can i send you private about something else?
[09:19] <bonno> usr13_ ..
[09:19] <usr13__> bonno: Yes, please do.
[09:20] <Guest33943> hello
[09:20] <featherspeed> Does anyone have opinions on sucureboot
[09:21] <featherspeed> Hi guest
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> featherspeed  type !poll
[09:21] <Guest33943> hi
[09:21] <BuenGenio> hi
[09:21] <featherspeed> !poll
[09:22] <BuenGenio> so I used to have 2 windows installs (XP & 7) in addition to the Ubuntu boot
[09:22] <BuenGenio> I've now deleted the XP parition from Windows 7
[09:22] <Guest33943> how?
[09:22] <BuenGenio> but now when I try to boot into 7 again I get grub 012345E346920 "no such device" hd1 "cannot get C/H/S values?
[09:23] <BuenGenio> will grub-update fix that?
[09:23] <sam1967> how do  i remove a launcher ?
[09:24] <sassas123> hey, guys.. I have non-working ethernet in my notebook in Ubuntu.
[09:26] <makara> hi. What can I use to change an HFS+ drive label? Gparted doesn't support it
[09:26] <sassas123> makara: sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[09:27] <M1k1> hi
[09:27] <histo> sam1967: right click on the launcher and select undock
[09:27] <M1k1> who can help set network interface if suspend i lost wired connection pleasE?
[09:28] <makara> sassas123, thanks. What command changes the label?
[09:28] <histo> M1k1: have you restarted since suspend?
[09:28] <M1k1> yes if i restart that's works but if i suspend lost wired
[09:28] <hulk> hi
[09:29] <sassas123> makara: Just change it in Gparted
[09:29] <sassas123> makara: But I'm not sure it works
[09:29] <sam1967> i only get launch and properties
[09:30] <M1k1> any idea :x?
[09:30] <histo> M1k1: open a terminal and run lshw  find out which driver your network card is loading
[09:31] <newubuntuusertha> hey guys
[09:31] <sassas123> I have non-working ethernet in my notebook in Ubuntu.
[09:31] <newubuntuusertha> have you tried turning it on and off again that fixed it for me
[09:31] <M1k1> histo: display this PCI (sysfs)
[09:32] <histo> M1k1: it will be on the line "driver=" in the -network section
[09:32] <histo> M1k1: or you can pastebin the output of lshw and I will take a look
[09:32] <bekks> lspci -k will be ok too :)
[09:32] <M1k1> histo: http://pastebin.com/G2gZrs73
[09:33] <newubuntuusertha> anyone know  just a good chat channel
[09:34] <DJones> newubuntuusertha: The general ubuntu chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:35] <histo> M1k1: okay now pastebin /etc/pm/config.d/config
[09:35] <DJones> !alis | newubuntuusertha It depends what you're looking for, the link the bots gives will let you search for channels around a particular subject,
[09:36] <M1k1> histo: its empty?
[09:36] <bekks> M1k1: Whats the output of lspci -k ?
[09:36] <histo> M1k1: in that file add a line SUSPEND_MODULES="via-rhine" save it and give that a try
[09:38] <M1k1> bekks: http://pastebin.com/PTHdrZ2p
[09:38] <M1k1> histo: i need to save this to file?
[09:38] <histo> M1k1: yes
[09:40] <histo> M1k1: save changes in that file then reboot and test
[09:41] <M1k1> histo: okey its help for wired?
[09:42] <stiv2k> how do i change the font sizes in ubuntu :|
[09:44] <KJB> seriously, what the hell is with Compiz?
[09:44] <KJB> having to run Unity 2D, looking at using XFCE instead..
[09:45] <usr13__> KJB: Try it, you'll like it.
[09:45] <usr13__> .... I do  ....
[09:46] <ssrvm> KJB, try an unofficial, officially not tasted - cinnamon.
[09:46] <makara> the hfsutils don't seem to work with hfs+
[09:47] <makara> how can I change the label?
[09:47] <usr13__> stiv2k: Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[09:48] <M1k1> Harpoon:
[09:48] <M1k1> help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:49] <geirha> stiv2k: In the accessibility settings
[09:50] <bonno> i wonder when will i be able to provide help here too :/
[09:50] <usr13__> stiv2k: System -> Preferences ->  Appearance -> Fonts
[09:51] <stiv2k> usr13__ no
[09:51] <stiv2k> doesn't exist
[09:51] <stiv2k> i did it using myUnity
[09:51] <usr13__> stiv2k: no?  Oh unity  sorry...
[09:52] <stiv2k> usr13__ can i not use unity?
[09:54] <stiv2k> also how can i stop the snapping behavior in the middle of my two screens
[09:54] <usr13__> stiv2k:  "gnome-tweak-tool" or "dconf-editor"
[09:54] <usr13__> stiv2k: I don't know about a snapping behavior
[09:55] <stiv2k> usr13__ ?
[09:56] <dD0T> stiv2k: It's in the displays dialog. called "Sticky Edges"
[09:56] <dD0T> stiv2k: If you mean slowing down of the mouse that is
[09:56] <stiv2k> yes
[09:56] <stiv2k> its annoying because its right in the middle
[09:57] <geirha> stiv2k: System Settings -> Universal Access
[09:58] <usr13__> stiv2k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779999
[09:58] <usr13__> geirha: Thanks.
[09:58] <stiv2k> the window borders are extremely thin
[09:58] <stiv2k> it makes window resizing a challenge of its own
[09:59] <mavericksam> Any idea about this log from auth.log -- Jun 30 10:37:11 test polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1 (system bus name :1.35, object path /org/gnome/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_IN) (disconnected from bus)
[09:59] <geirha> stiv2k: I hold down Alt, then drag near the borders with the middle mouse button to resize windows
[09:59] <ngtrieuvi92> #bkitsec
[10:00] <geirha> With that approach, you don't have to hit that one pixel to resize, just somewhere nearby
[10:00] <dD0T> stiv2k: You can use Ctrl + Super + Arrow keys if you just want to split (Aero Snap like). Doesn't work for moving between monitors though it seems :-(
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> mavericksam  are you using maverick? if yes, it's EOL
[10:00] <usr13__> stiv2k: Yes, we should have asked which fonts, where?
[10:00] <stiv2k> geirha that's a close second as far as difficulty
[10:01] <stiv2k> i'm done with the fonts! i have tweak tool and myUnity now
[10:01] <stiv2k> thanks
[10:01] <usr13__> stiv2k: Ctrl +  is difficult?
[10:01] <dD0T> stiv2k: Just tried it and it works for me. Be sure to use middle mouse
[10:01] <stiv2k> the middle mouse button is also scroll
[10:01] <dD0T> (I pressed LMB and was wondering why I was only moving...)
[10:02] <usr13__> stiv2k: so....?
[10:02] <dD0T> stiv2k: Ah. I guess whether that's a problem depends on the mouse you are using ;-)
[10:02] <stiv2k> it tends to scroll at the same time while i resize
[10:02] <usr13__> stiv2k: Oh ....
[10:05] <stiv2k> how can i not use unity?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  type !notunity
[10:05] <stiv2k> !nounity
[10:06] <usr13__> stiv2k: sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop  #Is what I did.
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  i use classic mode, no whistles and bells
[10:07] <rax-> what's the benefit/difference with http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ?
[10:07] <usr13__> stiv2k: thunar is a very good file manager, imho
[10:08] <usr13__> stiv2k: http://www.xfce.org/
[10:11] <rax-> I'm setting up a local mirror and it's downloading 87GiB of data
[10:11] <rax-> does this seem too much for 10.04 only?
[10:12] <rax-> http://pastie.org/4230846 mirror list
[10:12] <bekks> rax-: Lucid is 10.04
[10:13] <rax-> yea I know, I said I was setting it up for 10.04
[10:13] <rax-> but is 87gb about right for this?
[10:13] <bekks> Sure, why not?
[10:13] <usr13__> rax-: Hard drive space?
[10:14] <rax-> no issues with space, just online it's estimated to be ~30gb
[10:14] <hansz> on update (using aptitude) I have "/etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: 139: /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: Syntax error: "}" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[10:14] <rax-> but I assume it's because I'm mirroring both 32 and 64bit packages?
[10:14] <usr13__> hansz: use apt-get
[10:14] <cwillu_in_flight> In an initramfs shell prompt, how does how continue the boot?
[10:14] <cwillu_in_flight> ctrl-d just gives "attempted to kill init"
[10:15] <hansz> this does not allow me to install these three packages: linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-generic.
[10:15] <bekks> rax-: Yes.
[10:15] <hansz> usr13__: why?
[10:15] <cwillu_in_flight> (rebooting doesn't help me, as I can only fix the failure to mount the filesystem during the boot)
[10:16] <minas> When ubuntu shuts down, does it do any logging on the processes it kills?
[10:16] <rax-> thanks bekks
[10:16] <hansz> usr13__: I have the same error using apt-get.
[10:16] <usr13__> hansz: http://pad.lv/831768
[10:16] <usr13__> hansz: What error?
[10:17] <usr13__> oh I see...
[10:17] <hansz> /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: 139: /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: Syntax error: "}" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[10:17] <usr13__> hansz: 12.04?
[10:17] <hansz> usr13__: yes.
[10:20] <usr13__> hansz: Well, I don't know if this is relevant but:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1786722.html
[10:21] <hansz> usr13__: thanks. I'll have to look into that.
[10:22] <cwillu_in_flight> what is proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1?
[10:23] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, what's the context?
[10:23] <cebor> is there a shortcut overview for ubuntu 12.04 in the web ???
[10:24] <LjL> cebor: there is for Unity, http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts/28087#28087
[10:25] <cebor> ty
[10:25] <usr13__> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
[10:25]  * cwillu_in_flight pokes at hansz with a stick
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> cebor  there's also this (old, 2007) http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[10:27] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: the context is updating the system.
[10:27] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, I came in mid-way, but know something about grub :p
[10:27] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: so I am left with 3 packages which are partially installed.
[10:28] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, can you pastebin /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1?
[10:28] <cwillu_in_flight> and do you know where that came from?
[10:29] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, should be a simple fix, but if there's a package putting a broken script in grub's config, a bug should get filed
[10:29] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: moment.
[10:30] <Aritz> hi
[10:30] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: http://pastebin.ca/2169317
[10:31] <cwillu_in_flight> thanks
[10:32] <Aritz> why tcpdump finish, there is no count report?
[10:33] <Aritz> where can i see packets dropped by kernel  with tcpdump? Normally at the end but i dont see any
[10:33] <Lloir> anyone able to help me out? im stuck in an endless dependancy need loop? tried aptitude to fix it and apt-get -f and so on
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, with your preferred editor, delete the white space in front of the EOF on line 98
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> that shouldn't be there
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> (the closing string in a shell "here-doc" must not be indented)
[10:34] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, did you edit that file previously, or is that how it came?
[10:35] <cwillu_in_flight> it looks like you might have deleted a line, and mucked up the indentation by accident :p
[10:35] <oCean> tazjin: please use your /away status in your client instead of nick changes
[10:39] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: no, I have not.
[10:40] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: I have edited the file. I'll try to update again.
[10:40] <seven> ciao a tutti
[10:41] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: works! looks like a bug, eh?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:49] <bonno> hi
[11:05] <drigollier> hi all
[11:05] <waxkel> hi
[11:06] <robinp> If I have 8 GB of ram - how important is it to have a swap partition - using it for general use and a little developing ….
[11:06] <drigollier> hi waxkel, what's news ?
[11:06] <waxkel> No news for the moment
[11:06] <bekks> robinp: Without swap, you cant hibernate at all.
[11:07] <robinp> bekks: ok, so kinda important for a laptop - but not so much for a desktop (usually left on)
[11:08] <bekks> robinp: For energy saving reason, I am hibernating my desktop when I'm not at home.
[11:10] <robinp> bekks: ok so if I have an 120G SSD and a 750GB HDD - what size and where should I looking at putting my swap (on a Core 2 MacBook Pro)
[11:10] <Ragnareg> hi to all
[11:11] <BluesKaj> robinp, how much RAM ?
[11:11] <robinp> 8GB
[11:11] <kanliot> i can't find out if i'm running fglrx or not.  it says not installed. please help
[11:11] <BluesKaj> no swap needed IMO , robinp
[11:11] <robinp> I'm going to attempt to set it up to triple boot
[11:12] <bekks> BluesKaj: For hibernation, there is always swap needed.
[11:12] <bekks> robinp: I'd put 8GB swap on the 750GB HDD. For hibernation.
[11:12] <kanliot> i would never install without swap even if it's only 400MB
[11:12] <BluesKaj> bekks ..why hibernate
[11:13] <robinp> does the swap therefor need to be 8 GB (to accommodate a 1-to-1 copy of the RAM) ?
[11:13] <LarsN> If I have two ubuntu 12.04 servers running apache. and i want to be able to keep the webroot folders in sync bi-directionally between the servers what solutions would you all suggest?
[11:13] <bekks> BluesKaj: Why not?
[11:13] <bekks> robinp: Yes.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> 8G is plenty for hibernation
[11:13] <BluesKaj> RAM that is
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: Having 8GB RAM, 8GB swap is needed for hibernation. Else, there's the risc that you are using more RAM than you have swap and you cant hibernate anymore.
[11:14] <LarsN> bekks, BluesKaj: this is why it "used" to be common practice to set swap at 2x RAM
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: hibernation means suspend to disk aka swap, standby means suspend to RAM.
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: Dont mix that up please.
[11:14] <LarsN> bekks, BluesKaj: of course now that everyone has a million gigs of ram..... :)
[11:15] <fabian__> Hello everybody!
[11:15] <bekks> LarsN: I've got 16GB and 8GB in my hosts. :)
[11:15] <oCean> LarsN: aside from using a shared filesystem such as NFS or GlusterFS, I would suggest using rsync to synchronize
[11:15] <LarsN> bekks: most the production servers are > 96G now :)
[11:15] <root_348> hi
[11:15] <LarsN> oCean: can rsync take care of bidirectional synchronization?
[11:16] <LarsN> oCean: or do i need to set aside one machine as an admin server.
[11:16] <bekks> LarsN: Thats FUD, honestly.
[11:16] <fabian__> I got Ubuntu 12.04 showing me a message like: "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error." I can show details. I wonder if someone could help me figure what error is this and how to solve it please?
[11:16] <LarsN> bekks: I was referring to my production servers.
[11:16] <bekks> LarsN: Only production servers with a usage requirement for much RAM do have much RAM.
[11:16] <bekks> Like virtualization hosts.
[11:17] <LarsN> bekks: s/most the production/most of my production/g
[11:17] <LarsN> happier?
[11:17] <bekks> yes :)
[11:17] <robinp> see thinking about it - does the laptop hibernate when it runs low on power - like where does OS X put the RAM image (since it doesn't have swap)
[11:17] <bekks> robinp: when configuring your laptop to do so, it will do so.
[11:18] <LarsN> oCean: have you used GlusterFS at all?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> well , I don't use a laptop or hibernation , but never seen my swap space used
[11:18] <oCean> LarsN: the rsync command/script can reside on any of the webservers. It is able to push or retrieve updated files. rsync has many options, also able to run over ssh etc. Quick search shows a basic example: http://jessesanford.blogspot.nl/2009/09/use-cron-and-bash-script-rsync-to.html
[11:18] <LarsN> oCean: it looks like i might be able to set up a "mirror" between the two (or more) servers.
[11:18] <oCean> LarsN: only in a test setup. But I'm very impressed with gluster
[11:19] <oCean> LarsN: RedHat bought gluster, and now it is called RedHat Storage I think. You can setup mirrorred or distributed storagemembers
[11:19] <bonno> can i join this channel or any other form a browser?  new on irc and dont know ow to find faq and wiki's ..please help
[11:19] <LarsN> oCean: Gluster was going to be my sledgehammer solution to this problem.  the current solution is a hosts file entry, and an: rsync -av -e ssh...  from that host to the slave(s)
[11:19] <BluesKaj> I lied , I do have a laptop , but never use hibernation on it
[11:20] <DJones> bonno: You can connect to this channel using http://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling in yuor nick, channel name etc
[11:21] <clepto> hello, is Jono Bacon log in? whats his nickname?
[11:21] <bonno> thanks a lot..is there any faq answering this although?
[11:21] <DJones> bonno: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[11:21] <BluesKaj> bonno, for browser IRC try chatzilla on Firefox
[11:22] <LarsN> oCean: i think I'll spin up a pair of test instances and see if Gluster on ubuntu will work in my environment.  Thanks.
[11:22] <bonno> thanks.. chatzilla is an add-on?
[11:22] <oCean> LarsN: cheers
[11:22] <robinp> bonno: yep
[11:22] <BluesKaj> bonno,I think so yes
[11:22] <bonno> ok
[11:24] <LaOdeAliFarisi> setelah pasang dan konfigurasi conky.. tapi conkynys menutupi shortcut di dekstop?... bgmn caranya utk memunculkan shortcutnya kembali..... tanpa menghapus conkynya?
[11:27] <DJones> !id | LaOdeAliFarisi
[11:27] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem to connect to my ssh server. It says 'shared connection to myserver closed'. I think it has to do with me using a controlmaster, and an existing ssh connection with no pty allowed. Is it possible to create a tunnel with new rights from within the control master?
[11:30] <kristenbb> ok an easier question then, how to remove everything recursively except for hidden folders ?
[11:32] <kristenbb> ok easier then, what is 1+1 ?
[11:33] <elky> no need to be cheeky, there's just no many people around at the moment.
[11:33] <kanliot> kristenbb, bash channel likes riddles
[11:34] <kristenbb> I don't have a good GUI that tells me how many people there are, but it seems like there is quite a lot
[11:34] <kanliot> rm * -rf should work but it will delete hidden subdirs
[11:34] <kristenbb> well yes I knew that, I want to exclude '.svn'
[11:35] <kanliot> write a recursive functionin bash
[11:35] <kristenbb> that sounds difficult
[11:35] <elky> kristenbb, use this as a guide, but make sure to take a backup first: http://www.tomauger.com/2012/tips-and-tricks/unix-1-liner-delete-all-directories-except-a-particular-one
[11:36] <simosx> What's the IRC channel for the Ubuntu Apps Showdown competition?
[11:36] <SmashLink> hey guys! Does anyone know about any tutorials/examples about ptpd?
[11:37] <SmashLink> i've got it running but i don't even know what to do next to do some tests
[11:37] <kristenbb> elky: thanks. I don't understand the ! .* part. Does that mean that without it, it would remove parent directories as well ?
[11:38] <kristenbb> I mean, the     ! -name '.*'     part
[11:38] <vlt> Hello. I got this kernel msg in syslog: http://pastebin.com/GfKQsqHf   Where does this come from?
[11:39] <BluesKaj> bekks, my apologies for recommending no swap, I didn't realize that "hibernation" meant writing to the swap file from RAM ,and then turning the power off. Hibernation to me means a lower level of power keeping the memry powered up and active . Hibernation in the computer sense of the word is a misnomer..to me and the dictionary , hibernate implies asleep with low power setting
[11:40] <oCean> simosx: I think that would be the #ubuntu-app-devel channel
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> simosx  http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
[11:42] <elky> kristenbb, without that, it'd remove anything starting with a ., so dotfiles and dotdirs. as i said, take a backup first and then you can keep trying until you find the right combination for your expected outcome.
[11:44] <zax> hi how to change permissions from -rw-r--r--  to   -rw-------
[11:45] <SmashLink> some ptpd tutorials?
[11:45] <bugs_bugger> hi there. i've got a question about compiling: i'm trying to build gimp 2.8. one of the dependencies is babl which i compiled with a prefix. how can i set the prefix right in the gimp configure so that it detects the installed babl package?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> zax  try chown 600
[11:47] <zax> MonkeyDust; thanks
[11:47] <bekks> chown wont work, chmod will work.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> idd
[11:47] <bekks> chmod g-rw o-rw ...
[11:49] <jillsmitt> where can i check out system requirements of software center apps?
[11:51] <maximb> hello, I've just finished installing a new ubuntu server and I want to update it, for some reason when I do "apt-get update" I get : The following packages have been kept back:
[11:51] <maximb>   linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server  , why kept back ?
[11:53] <Darkasakerionz> Hello, there is any way to put tightvnc over ssh and not over internet? Thanks
[11:53] <BluesKaj> maximb, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:54] <maomao> ping
[11:54] <imanc> to install 12.10 on a win7 machine, as the sole OS, do I need to use a pen drive or something?
[11:54] <imanc> or can I initiate the installation from win7 itself
[11:54] <simosx> oCean, MonkeyDust: thanks (for the irc channel)
[11:55] <maomao> how to use this?
[11:55] <imanc> ping url ?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> imanc, are you going to just ubuntu or dual boot , your question isn't clear
[11:56] <BluesKaj> just use
[11:56] <imanc> BluesKaj: just ubuntu, I think
[11:56] <imanc> BluesKaj: I'm not entirely sure yet - it may be worth me leaving win7 here. But I'd tend to only use win7 for testing purposes (in browsers), so I'd probably just run it through virtualbox, hence thinking I may be better to just run ubuntu
[11:56] <BluesKaj> so you want to get rid of windows ? ..we need to be sure about this
[11:57] <imanc> BluesKaj: OK, yes I want to get rid of it
[11:57] <ikonia> imanc: take some time to think
[11:57] <imanc> ikonia: to dual boot, or not to dual boot. That is the question.
[11:58] <imanc> I take it dual booting is easiest from win7
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> imanc  you mean wubi?
[11:58] <maximb> BluesKaj: 10x it worked, but why it doesn't work with regular napt0get update ?
[11:58] <SimonJai> hey there, is there a way to route all ntp traffic to go out through a specific ethernet using iptables?
[11:58] <imanc> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:58] <BluesKaj> imanc, you can also dual boot windows and ubuntu if you wish , but it's a longer process involving windows resizing partition then installing anew ext partition for ubuntu
[11:59] <maomao> me too
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> imanc  what BluesKaj says, it's easier in the long term
[11:59] <LarsN> SimonJai: I'm not 100% sure but you might even be able to configure that in the ntp client.
[11:59] <imanc> OK, here's the deal… I guess. I don't care about win7 at all. But I have a fairly large hard drive and if it's quicker to just leave it in place, then so be it. But if it's actually quicker to remove it, then even better.
[11:59] <SimonJai> LarsN: not in the NTP version I'm using
[11:59] <ikonia> SimonJai: sure -p for ports and -s -d source/destination and -i interface
[12:00] <ikonia> SimonJai: you should be able to tell ntp to listen on speicif interfaces, which will force it out of those interfaces also
[12:00] <SimonJai> i set it using "-I eth0:0" parameter but doesn't seem so
[12:00] <SimonJai> =/
[12:01] <robinp> can linux read and write to JHFS+ partitions or do they need to be HFS+
[12:02] <SimonJai> "iptables -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport 123 -i eth0:0"
[12:02] <maomao> apple?
[12:02] <SimonJai> that doesn't look right =/
[12:03] <BluesKaj> imanc, well , that's your decision  , but either way DL an ubuntu iso/image and burn it to media first. Also if  you wish to dual boot gparted livecd is agood way to setup your partitions for windows and ubuntu . If your'e not familaier with partitioning , suggest you do some reading /research
[12:03] <lion> Hello all I want a pdf  reader with highlight and comment support.Do you know one of the best?
[12:03] <robinp> maomao: yeah
[12:03] <nag_> hi all, Is there any gui tool like Adobe photoshop
[12:04] <rudivs> I use the following command to limit internet access to a 'trusted shell': "sudo -g internet -s; sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules"; is there some way to get the restore part to run even if the terminal is closed without exiting the shell?
[12:04] <maomao> gimp
[12:04] <sherlockholmes> Hello everyone, where can I find the source for libebook-1.2 ? Is it embedded within gnome-extras ?
[12:04] <LjL> nag_: GIMP and Krita
[12:04] <BlouBlou> lion: okular, but it will install kde librearies
[12:04] <BlouBlou> libraries*
[12:05] <nag_> ljl: thnx
[12:05] <narayana> imanc: avoid installing with wubi if you're going to work on ubuntu primarily. if win7 is screwed, so might your linux. Create separate partitions for linux, and install using the live cd/usb
[12:05] <imanc> BluesKaj: thanks. I don't have any media to stick the iso on, but it seems like the simplest option, so i'll go out and buy a usb drive
[12:05] <imanc> narayana: thanks; makes sense.
[12:05] <lion> thank you but I want to use gnome...................
[12:05] <lion> can you say 3 anothers?
[12:05] <BlouBlou> lion: it works fine with gnome, it just will use qt under gnome
[12:05] <BluesKaj> imanc, cds are easier to use for installation and have fewer problems
[12:06] <narayana> lion: xournal is nice, so is pdfedit but the latter is more work
[12:06] <imanc> BluesKaj: I take it here's no issue burning to dvd either?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> imanc, no dvd is fine
[12:06] <bekks> BluesKaj: Easier than...?
[12:06] <imanc> BluesKaj: thanks
[12:07] <BluesKaj> usb, bekks
[12:07] <lion> I am using a programme that wrote on the qt frame work  it means I have kde libraries?
[12:07] <ikonia> lion: it means you have QT libraries
[12:08] <maomao> yes
[12:08] <lion> How i can install okular ? only sudo apt-get install okular ?
[12:08] <BlouBlou> lion: yep
[12:09] <lion> and it automatic install kde libreries?
[12:09] <BlouBlou> it will install qt libraries, yeah
[12:09] <ikonia> lion: it will install what it needs
[12:10] <lion> on the software center we have 4 Okular    what is diffrent between them?
[12:10] <ikonia> lion: what does the descriptions say
[12:10] <maomao> 看不懂阿
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:11] <lion> no i searched okular on software center and it shows 4 oklur
[12:11] <feisar> Hi, the following gives me an error: 'sudo ufw allow from any to 192.168.255.5 port 60000:65535'
[12:11] <feisar> ERROR: Must specify 'tcp' or 'udp' with multiple ports
[12:11] <maomao>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:12] <BlouBlou> lion: install it by "sudo apt-get install okular" then, so you won't have to choose
[12:12] <erinaceus_> Evening, I just bought a new laptop with a 24 GB ssd cache thingy and a 500gb HDD. If I uninstall windows and install / on the ssd  will the laptop still work or ist the sdd hard wired as cache
[12:12] <feisar> but this doesn't work either: sudo ufw allow from any to 192.168.255.5 port 60000:65535/tcp
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> feisar  tcp is checked on errors, udp isn't
[12:12] <lion> tnx
[12:12] <feisar> MonkeyDust: thanks but what do you mean?
[12:13] <ahhughes> how the &*(#@# do you close Banshee? I go media, close... and it minimizes and continues to play, there is nothing in the task bar, only if I expand the sound/speaker icon in the top rhs of screen.
[12:13] <feisar> how would I open a port range for one specific IP address (interface) using ufw?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> feisar  my guess: udp is used for streaming media (among others), and that isnt allowed by the filter
[12:13] <ahhughes> I can only pause
[12:14] <erinaceus_> ahhughes: ctrl+q ?
[12:14] <kristenbb> isn't svn supposed to refuse the commit if there are conflicts ?
[12:14] <ahhughes> nope erinaceus_
[12:14] <feisar> MonkeyDust: but I'd like to open TCP 60000-65535 for a specific IP address (interface)
[12:15] <erinaceus_> ahhughes: Well then i dont know
[12:15] <ahhughes> reboot
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> feisar  isnt that an ip-tables thing?
[12:16] <feisar> MonkeyDust: ultimately yes it's IP-Tables but I'm using UFW to make the rules
[12:16] <BluesKaj> feisar, does your router/modem have application support in tcp/udp ports? if so you might try that option
[12:17] <feisar> BluesKaj: my router does yes but I need to sort out the firewall on the ubuntu server first
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> feisar  there's also gufw
[12:17] <BluesKaj> feisar, nevermind ..UFW needs configuring
[12:17] <feisar> I have no gui
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:18] <feisar> are you saying that I may have hit a ufw limitation?
[12:18] <erinaceus_> So noone has an opion to my question?
[12:19] <OerHeks> erinaceus_, i think your 24 gb ssd will work as a normal systemdisk
[12:19] <bekks> erinaceus_: We have no clue how the SSD in your laptop is wired.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> feisar, if you enable the application support in your router , most will then block all other ports except those you choose to open for your apps
[12:19] <erinaceus_> OerHeks: Thx, that's what i wanted to hear ;)
[12:20] <bekks> And a 24GB SSD is most likely supposed to be used as Intel-Whatever-Fast-Cache, and cant be used as a native SSD.
[12:20] <abdul_> jugno
[12:20] <erinaceus_> bekks: No, but could've been someone hat a similar situation
[12:20] <erinaceus_> *had
[12:20] <feisar> BluesKaj: I need to resolve the issue I have on this Ubuntu server, not on my router but thanks
[12:21] <BluesKaj> feisar, I was merelyhinting that you have dual FWs running in your case
[12:22] <feisar> BluesKaj: oh right, sorry, I misunderstood. How/why would I have two firewalls running on an Ubuntu Server install?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> one on the router if you have application support enabled and UFW
[12:23] <aetoxx> Can someone please tell me what this options mean? (I)nherit / (P)rofile / (C)hild / (N)ame / (U)nconfined / (X)ix / (D)eny / Abo(r)t / (F)inish
[12:23] <aetoxx> It's for configuring AppArmor.
[12:23] <aetoxx> But AppArmor apparently thinks that's clear.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> uhoh ...problems here ... telephone co is outside , gonna lose internet service for 15mins or so, or so I'm told
[12:25] <feisar> BluesKaj: fixed it, my syntax was not quite right, it should have been: 'sudo ufw allow proto tcp from any to 192.168.255.2 port 60000:65535'
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> feisar  how did you find out?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> feisar, cool , good to hear
[12:28] <feisar> MonkeyDust: I studied this a little more carefully: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/ufw.8.html
[12:31] <Pupeno_W> What's the proper place to modify the prompt system wide?
[12:32] <Golf> ciao
[12:33] <Golf> !list
[12:35] <mobodo> I just updated my ubuntu computer and now eth0 has disappeared… is this a known issue?
[12:35] <geirha> Pupeno_W: You cannot and should not. Not for existing users anyway. You can modify /etc/skel/.bashrc to change the default prompt new users will get.
[12:36] <geirha> Pupeno_W: Assuming, of course, you're talking about the bash prompt
[12:36] <bekks> mobodo: Just take a look at ifconfig -a
[12:38] <mobodo> bekks: ahhh! it is there… so I guess it's just not active anymore
[12:38] <Pupeno_W> thanks geirha .
[12:39] <mobodo> I also get a crash on startup for aptd, wonder if that's related...
[12:40] <Pupeno_W> Does root get a different set of files than other users? they seem to differ to .skel.
[12:40] <dezertir> русские есть?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:42] <arcaico> Hello. I want to install my bluetooth module
[12:42] <arcaico> Anyone Can help me?
[12:42] <urshx> arcaico: yeah
[12:43] <VectorX> hi, i want to implemeting multiseat, sounds like its not available in gnome, would it work in kubuntu ?
[12:43] <arcaico> urshx, I installed bluez and bluetooth packages
[12:43] <aetoxx> Can anyone tell me what Child and Name mean here? (I)nherit / (P)rofile / (C)hild / (N)ame / (U)nconfined / (X)ix / (D)eny / Abo(r)t / (F)inish
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> arcaico  install blueman
[12:44] <urshx> идите нахуй.
[12:45] <urshx> и хуй сосите :)))
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:45] <T3X> I bough a new ethernet network Adapter and installed in my destop but ubuntu didnt detect it. ifconfig still showing that i have only one network interface which eth0
[12:45] <mouse_> I have a problem.  Every time I try to run a game it always goes into fullscreen mode by default which puts my widescreen monitor resolution out of range.  I alt-tab and alt-f4 won't reset the resolution and not only that but alt-f4 rarely ever closes the program.  And even if I go into another tty and kill the program then go back to x session, the monitor will still say out of range and I have to reboot before I can see anything again.
[12:45] <mouse_>   Does anyone have any experience or solutions for this other than changing each config file for every program manually?
[12:46] <arcaico> MonkeyDust, How I configure blueman? not found my module automatic
[12:46] <urshx> !ru сосите
[12:46] <T3X> I bough a new ethernet network Adapter and installed in my destop but ubuntu didnt detect it. ifconfig still showing that i have only one network interface which eth0. How do i check if my new ethernet adapter working or not?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> T3X, run lshw to see if it's listed
[12:47] <arcaico> using blueman-assistant -- No such adapter
[12:47] <mobodo> what are the tools to configure the network on 12.4? When I go in the control panel it tells me the "system network services are not compatible with this version"?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> arcaico  install blueman, it appears as an icon, click on it to configure
[12:51] <T3X> BluesKaj: yes it there
[12:51] <mobodo> weird - "sudo NetworkManager" brought back the network connection...
[12:52] <T3X> BluesKaj:: stated like this "*-network DISABLED"
[12:53] <C112911> hey how to hack atm
[12:53] <C112911> ...:............................................................................................
[12:53] <C112911> ,,,,,,,,
[12:53] <chu> Pardon C112911?
[12:53] <DJones> C112911: Thats not a topic for tis channel
[12:53] <DJones> s/tis/this/
[12:54] <BluesKaj> T3X, what about network manager , does it list another ethX
[12:54] <T3X> BluesKaj: there is no destop interface for me i am running server edition
[12:54] <bekks> T3X: NetworkManager has a CLI too.
[12:55] <T3X> bekks: How?
[12:55] <chu> T3X: I believe it's called nmcli
[12:56] <chu> !info nmcli
[12:56] <chu> Mmm, maybe not. Ignore me :(
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> ./ignore chu ;)
[12:57] <launch> jaime bien http://www.google.com entk
[12:57] <chu> :)
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:57] <Pici> T3X, chu: network-manager itself provides /usr/bin/nmcli
[12:59] <launch> the official website is http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[12:59] <arcaico> MonkeyDust, not found =/
[12:59] <bekks> launch: Yes.
[12:59] <arcaico> but in dmesg I find
[12:59] <launch> thanks
[13:00] <BluesKaj> T3X, what does,  lspci | grep -i net , show
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:01] <T3X> BluesKaj: shows Two diffirent Ethernet controller one is intel and ather one is VIA.
[13:02] <r3m> is http://www.ubuntu.org official too?
[13:02] <Rovanion> Is there a command for changing locale permanently?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> T3X, what's the purpose of 2 NICs anyway ?
[13:02] <lion> excuse me when i go to update manager i seecommon data for vlc but I can not check that .why?
[13:03] <T3X> BluesKaj: for setting it up as router and firewalle box
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> !locale| Rovanion
[13:03] <T3X> BluesKaj: cant afford to buy $2000 Cisco Router to secure my network
[13:04] <BluesKaj> T3X, how many machines on your network ?
[13:05] <T3X> BluesKaj: between 20~50
[13:06] <T3X> BluesKaj: ifconfig eth1 up, start showing data transmission but i think i need to add it in /etc/network/interfaces and configure it manualy right
[13:07] <BluesKaj> T3X, yes have you set tthe infaces file up for static internal IP ?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> interfaces file
[13:08] <T3X> BluesKaj: will do now
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> T3X  use pastebin to show the interfaces file to the channel
[13:10] <BluesKaj> T3X, dunno how this will apply to a large network, but here's a guide , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[13:14] <Kartagis> does nslookup care /etc/hosts?
[13:14] <PapaSierra> what's the significance of the 3 in libpcre3-dev? how do i verify that these isn't a newer version for ubuntu 12 for example?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, ??
[13:16] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: I mean, does /etc/hosts get considered when using nslookup?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, nameservers should be listed in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, or list the IPs in /etc/hosts.allow
[13:19] <gemini123> how should i completely remove dropbox from ubuntu
[13:19] <gemini123> via terminal if possible?
[13:20] <gemini123> will this work..
[13:20] <gemini123> sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:20] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: I don't mean nameservers. suppose I've put in 1.2.3.4 www.example.com for testing purposes but actually it has the IP 5.6.7.8. does nslookup show me 1.2.3.4 or 5.6.7.8?
[13:20] <habib> Hi! How to know wifi adapter model in notebook?
[13:21] <bekks> Kartagis: Depends on your configuration.
[13:21] <bekks> habib: "lspci | grep -i net" is a good point to start
[13:21] <habib> thnx
[13:22] <MrMirth> good moring.  I have a dell D430 that has a core2duo processor.  is that processor a 64 bit processor?  what is the best version of ubuntu to use?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> gemini123, what about purge rather than rm -rf
[13:23] <gemini123> i dont know i am completely noob in it ...i googled to remove and found in https://www.dropbox.com/help/41/en
[13:23] <gemini123> but i dont understand what it says
[13:23] <gemini123> i know it will remove it
[13:23] <BluesKaj> sorry Kartagis , I don't what you mean
[13:24] <gemini123> but i want to know how command was written
[13:24] <BluesKaj> know
[13:25] <drag0nius> might be a bit off-topic, but is there way to access router in Bridge Only mode, DHCP not running and ARP blocked?
[13:25] <Rovanion> Do I need to completely restart my computer after changing locale or will all processes started after I've changed /etc/default/locale start with that locale?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> gemini123, that's from the dropbox site ..I think they know bettern than we do how to remove dropbox completely , so run the command
[13:26] <bekks> Rovanion: The former.
[13:26] <Rovanion> Ha
[13:26] <Rovanion> Thanks bekks
[13:26] <Hexeon> hey bekks. didn't know you were here too
[13:27] <calbadude> hey simon
[13:28] <gemini123> BluesKaj... thats ok but how can one make his own command to remove dropbox
[13:28] <gemini123> experts in terminal may never look on dropbox page to find command to copy and paste... hurray they did it
[13:28] <gemini123> but how can one write his own
[13:29] <BluesKaj> gemini123, copy and paste the command into the terminal and run it
[13:30] <gemini123> Original command: udo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:30] <gemini123> explanation:
[13:30] <gemini123> sudo(superuser) apt-get(to get) remove(and remove) dropbox(this application); rm(???) -rvf(???) ~/(???).dropbox(???) ~/.dropbox(???)-dist(???)
[13:31] <gemini123> i want to know those ???
[13:31] <lion> excuse me how i can write comment with adobe acrobat reader ?
[13:31] <fidel> lion: how is that an ubuntu question?
[13:32] <fidel> i mean ...its an acrobat question isnt it? ;)
[13:32] <T3X> BluesKaj: it working like a charm, I just had to identify it in /etc/network/interfaces, after that execute ifconfig ethX up.
[13:32] <compdoc> lion, you can write in Writer or any editor, and then print to a pdf file
[13:32] <BluesKaj> T3X, cool :)
[13:33] <lion> I can not comment a page on acrobat on ubuntu but this option was on windows
[13:34] <lion> can any body answer?
[13:34] <compdoc> many pdf files are locked. Did you use a pdf editor liek Acrobat?
[13:35] <fidel> lion: the question: why cant you create comments in your acrobat on linux?
[13:35] <fidel> what version have you tried - is there an error text or similar
[13:35] <fidel> feed us with informations and dont assume we read your brain ;)
[13:35] <lion> yes , version 9, and there is not the comment icon that is on windows
[13:35] <OerHeks> lion use pdfedit ?
[13:36] <lion> oerHeks ,no
[13:36] <BluesKaj> gemini123, yes , copy and paste this command into the console and click enter , it will remove dropbox completely , sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist\
[13:36] <BluesKaj> gemini123, yes , copy and paste this command into the console and click enter , it will remove dropbox completely , sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:37] <BluesKaj> gemini123, ignore the first post post
[13:37] <gemini123> yes i know that ... and have already removed i just dont understand how this is written
[13:37] <gemini123> places where i putted ??? means what?
[13:39] <OerHeks> lion i guess you cannot edit a pdf with acrobat. good luck.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> those commands mean to remove all dropbox folders , files and configuration files for dropbox
[13:39] <BluesKaj> gemini123, ^
[13:40] <gemini123> can u please please do that in brackets
[13:40] <gemini123> eg.
[13:40] <gemini123> sudo(superuser) apt-get(to get) remove(and remove) dropbox(this application)
[13:40] <lion> no i want only type a "comment"
[13:40] <fidel> lion: so your actual question is: does acrobat 9 on linux supports the comment-function?
[13:40] <gemini123> pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[13:40] <FloodBot1> gemini123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <lion> actually yes
[13:40] <BlueEagle> lion: Did you check the Adobe Acrobat documentation?
[13:40] <lion> no why?
[13:41] <BlueEagle> lion: I guess it would say if it was supported or not. Just a hunch.
[13:41] <fidel> lion: cause thats the way to check
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !cli | gemini123
[13:41] <Rovanion> my LANG=sv_SE.UTF8 but I still can't type åä and ö into my terminal. I'm connected over ssh.
[13:41] <lion> Ok if it does not support the comment -function can you type a pdf reader for linux that support>
[13:41] <lion> ?
[13:41] <fidel> lion: besides: i just installed acrobat 9 for testing it - and i do see a comment button - not sure if it works - as i really dont care ... but there is one in the sidebar ;)
[13:42] <lion> thank you
[13:42] <lion> tnx fidel
[13:42] <BlueEagle> lion: I do belive that Foxit supports it.
[13:42] <lion> tnx i'll check it
[13:43] <fidel> lion: maybe use a search for alternative linux opdf readers- random hit: http://maketecheasier.com/8-alternative-pdf-readers-for-your-consideration/2010/11/12
[13:43] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17031/is-there-a-way-to-enable-commenting-adobe-pdf
[13:43] <gemini123> Ok boss
[13:44] <lion> there is one comment butoon on adobe reader but how  add a comment?
[13:44] <fidel> man
[13:45] <BlueEagle> lion: Just a wild guess: Click the comment button, click on the document where you want to add the comment, enter comment.
[13:45] <BlueEagle> lion: If that doesn't work try clicking the "Help" lable in the menu bar.
[13:46] <lion> aha thanks
[13:46] <fidel> BlueEagle: seems like they ship a button - but not a working one
[13:46] <fidel> at least i wasnt able to use it within 30 sec so i removed the entire package again as i dont see a reason to have it installed in the first place to be honest
[13:47] <fidel> lion: either write a mail to adobe and wait for ever without getting a reply - or search a solution yourself. best solutiuon is most likely choosing something not crappy as adobe itself as alternative reader
[13:47] <SmashLink> does somebody know about any ptpd tutorials?
[13:49] <K1rk> Anyone running a Dell Latitude 2120 with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?  I'm encountering a strange issue with the wired network interface, which is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57760.  See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021681
[13:50] <legolaas> hey guys can you check does okular has add comment support
[13:50] <legolaas> ?
[13:50] <musa> hello, I have upgraded my kernel to 3.4.4 under 12.04 using dpkg -i. How do I downgrade back to official kernel? Is it safe to do dpkg -r?
[13:51] <OerHeks> nice logolaas /lion to change your name ...
[13:51] <bekks> musa: After ensuring you have another kernel installed, yes.
[13:52] <legolaas> only answe this
[13:52] <legolaas> who is lion?
[13:52] <BlueEagle> K1rk: First let me commend you on an excellent help request. Secondly the massive amount of collisions indicate a speed issue. This may be a NIC running at 1000MBPS on one end and 100MBPS on the other. I had this issue when transferring more than a few consecutive MB and it was caused by a faulty cable.
[13:52] <legolaas> oerHeks: are u ok?
[13:52] <OerHeks> legolaas lion check it out yourself, i gave a link some minutes ago : ocular comments are only visible in ocular.
[13:53] <haylo> what parts of linux are written in C ? is it mostly the kernel and maybe the installers ?
[13:53] <OerHeks> legolaas it is not done changing your name while you get help.
[13:53] <musa> bekks: well I had the official kernel prior to dkpg install
[13:53] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I am making the assumption that you are receiving an IP address from a DHCP-server of sorts. Is this from the ISP or from a router in your house? Does resetting the router resolve the issue? Also, have you experienced this issue with other operating systems on the same computer?
[13:53] <legolaas> tnx bye
[14:00] <SmashLink> any ptpd tutorials?
[14:00] <moes> I have 10.04 installed with grub 2 to mbr...I also have 2 other distro booting from 10.04 grub2...now I want to add 12.04 to a partition and boot it from 10.04 grub...To what partition do I install grub 2 in 12.04 ???
[14:01] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I have not really used any other operating system on this computer, however we have 200 of them.  I am using 3 for testing.  Of the 3 I left on last night, 2 exhibit this issue this morning.  We are a corporate network with a Windows DHCP server and all Cisco switches\equipment.  So I'm ruling out the network as a cause.
[14:01] <brainwave> I have an ubuntu headless
[14:01] <brainwave> with xfce desktop
[14:01] <usr13__> K1rk: Try another NIC ?
[14:02] <brainwave> What i need is, when i try to ssh into it, the x11vnc creates a display
[14:02] <kokjo> hi im having problems with ssh and ipv6. i have setup a server with a ipv6 tunnel from he.net, and a client running miredo. i can connect to the server over ipv6(via nc). but i can't login to the server via ssh over ipv6. can anybody help me?
[14:02] <brainwave> and i am presented with login screen
[14:02] <K1rk> usr13__, it's a netbook.  I suppose a USB nic would be possible but otherwise...
[14:02] <usr13__> O
[14:03] <BlueEagle> K1rk: That would also rule out faulty cabling (unless both the ones with the issue have faulty cables and that makes no odds). Is there any events on the windows DHCP server that can indicate when/what caused the loss of lease? Anything useful in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/dmesg ?
[14:04] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Ofcourse a driver issue in linux may be just as likely, but then I do not see why the 3rd one didn't also go hay-wire.
[14:04] <K1rk> BlueEagle, it doesn't seem like a loss of lease to me.  The interface disappears from network manager. If it were a loss of lease, I would expect to be able to renew the lease.
[14:04] <usr13__> K1rk: Maybe an IP conflict.  Do you have any static IPs within the DHCP pool?
[14:05] <usr13__> if so, move them outside the pool
[14:05] <BlueEagle> usr13__: Did you even read the forum post?
[14:05] <dpy> hi guys
[14:05] <K1rk> usr13__, we do have statics and reservations but the DHCP server is working great for hundreds of other computers.  Also an IP conflict wouldn't cause the interface to disappear from Network Manager Gnome, I don't think.
[14:05] <K1rk> I think I agree with BlueEagle that it's a driver issue.  I downloaded the latest driver from http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtreme_desktop.php and I am going to compile it this morning.
[14:06] <popo> selam
[14:06] <popo> [tr]hi
[14:06] <usr13__> BlueEagle: Yes
[14:06] <dpy> doesn anyone know of you can skip a particular dkms build for a particular kernel?  I have three kernels here, for one the DKMS build fails, so it fails for all.
[14:06] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Are you all IP6?
 what will happen if in extras-myapp.desktop i will make terminal =true?
[14:07] <BlueEagle> wooo: Make a backup of the file and try it. If it no longer works then restore the backup.
[14:07] <kokjo> \join #linux-net
[14:07] <usr13__> K1rk: Are these static IPs set by the DHCP server?  Or are they hard coded into the individual PC's config files?
[14:07] <K1rk> BlueEagle, no we're a flat IPv4 network, a /16
[14:08] <K1rk> usr13__, static IPs are not set by DHCP server but they aren't in the DHCP pool range.  10.9.1.x is reserved for static assignment.  10.9.6.x through 10.9.19.x are pool. 10.9.20.x are reservations.
[14:08] <K1rk> usr13__, "reservations" are my way of saying the static is assigned by DHCP
[14:08] <K1rk> 10.9.1. are servers and hence cannot rely on DHCP.
[14:08] <lion> how i can use "HUD" on KDE desktop
[14:08] <BlueEagle> K1rk: If you look at the output you will see that the NIC has got no IP4 address. It does however have an IP6. Not sure if it should matter, but there ought to be a setting to disable IP6 on the NIC and that may help.
[14:08] <K1rk> Especially since one of them is the DHCP server. :P
[14:08] <usr13__> K1rk: Maybe change to /24 ?
[14:09] <K4k> I restarted my system today and after reboot, nm-applet does not start at login any more. I've checked under startup applications and it was missing. I added it back there and it's still not starting. Anywhere else I might check?
[14:09] <popo> :@
[14:09] <popo> (6)
[14:09] <popo> :|
 my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true?????
[14:09] <K1rk> usr13__, why would that be necessary?  This is the first time I have ever seen this problem.  It seems to me it's specific to this model of device.
[14:09] <popo> 144
[14:09] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I thought all network interfaces autoconfigured with a link local IPv6 address with no outside help?
[14:09] <lion> popo please don't trolling
[14:09] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I'm open to the idea of turning off IPv6 but I'm going to try the new driver first I think.
[14:10] <oCean> !tr | popo
[14:10] <lion> Hello guys can i use HUD onkde
[14:10] <lion> ?
[14:11] <compdoc> heads up display?
[14:11] <wooo>  BlueEagle: my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true?????
[14:11] <K1rk> BlueEagle, we should be able to get away with compiling drivers as we do not automatically push out kernel updates. But I'd rather avoid them because the end-user will be able to update their kernel on these...
[14:11] <K1rk> BlueEagle, but if the compiled driver fixes the problem, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
[14:11] <usr13__> K1rk: You are probably correct in thinking it's a driver issue, or an issue with having a mix of gigabit and 10/100, I'm just digging up alternative ideas.
[14:12] <K1rk> usr13__, for testing, I have all 3 of these netbooks plugged into a gigabit Netgear Prosafe switch on my desk.  But I have had this issue on various Cisco switches as well.
[14:12] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Just to assert another assumption I made; Are the three ports on the Cisco router configured identically?
[14:12] <BlueEagle> ...oh. That answered my question then.
[14:12] <K1rk> BlueEagle, since this Netgear switch is just a cheap unmanaged switch, yes.
[14:13] <giga2> I am trying to install kubuntn on an old computer and get error message sis630 smbus not detected no module found anyone have any ideas
[14:13] <K1rk> Part of the reason I did that was to eliminate that possibility.  Since before, I was connected to several different closet switches via wall ports.  This way it's a controlled testing environment @BlueEagle, @usr13__
[14:14] <usr13__> K1rk: I wouldn't rule out a systemic network config problem though.... Sometimes it can effect only certain devices.  Such as with an IP conflict, if there is an IP conflict, the Linux computer will fail and the MS Windows computer will not.
[14:14] <SmashLink> i'm looking for a ptpd tutorial
[14:14] <wooo>  my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true in extras-myapp.desktop?????
[14:14] <nnn> Hello all can you answer my questions?
[14:14] <wooo> someone pls help its urgent!!
[14:15] <nnn> ??
[14:15] <genii-around> !ask | nnn
[14:15] <K1rk> BlueEagle, refresh my memory... I'm compiling my driver by the instructions. Is this a problem?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084534/
[14:15] <BlueEagle> !ask | nnn
[14:15] <K1rk> usr13__, I'm familiar with how Ubuntu handles, we've been running it in production on 500 computers in our building for the past 11 months.
[14:15] <nnn> can i use "HUD" on the kde desktop?
[14:16] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I haven't compiled a kernel since 2.2-series so I don't think I'm the one to ask...
[14:16] <K1rk> lol, k
[14:16] <usr13__> K1rk: Sounds like there is a module  by that name already.
[14:16] <K1rk> usr13__, should I rmmod it?
[14:16] <usr13__> K1rk: Yea, I suppose
[14:16] <K1rk> Ah there we go. rmmod tg3.ko caused the network to disconnect.  Now I will insmod the new one.
[14:17] <wooo>  my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true in extras-myapp.desktop????any one help pls its urgent!!
[14:17] <BlueEagle> nnn: There's no package named "Hud" as far as I can tell.
[14:17] <K1rk> usr13__, that worked. I am now running under the new driver.
[14:17] <K1rk> final step is make install.  Here we go
[14:17] <nnn> is HUD only for unity ?
[14:17] <K1rk> nnn, I think what you're asking about is a feature of Unity, not necessarily a package.
[14:18] <K1rk> Like asking "where's the Start Menu exe"
[14:18] <nnn> please answer with yes or no to I know that , :)
[14:19] <popo> i love linux
[14:19] <BluesKaj> nnn, http://www.afiestas.org/appmenu-runner-meet-the-kde-hud/
[14:19] <BlueEagle> nnn: Giving an answer is not that hard. Understanding your question however is a challenge. :)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, nnn , yes there is a hud for kde
[14:19] <Rovanion> I can't write å,ä and ö in bash on a computer that I've ssh'd into. It has LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8 but LC_ALL=C when I run locale even though /etc/default/locale has LC_ALL="sv_SE.UTF-8"
[14:19] <C112911> can i run exe in ubuntu
[14:19] <BlueEagle> nnn: Assuming that HUD is a part of Unity the question should be if you can run Unity in KDE. The answer to that is yes. The next question is if you really want to run Unity in KDE. The answer to that I'll leave to the philosophers.
[14:20] <chrisgeorge> Is there a way to map Caps Lock to any key I want?
[14:20] <BlueEagle> !wine | C112911
[14:20] <nnn> BluesKaj, tnx man
[14:20] <BluesKaj> nnn, np
[14:20] <uw> chrisgeorge, the actual capslock key is in hardware
[14:21] <moes>  I have 10.04 installed with grub 2 to mbr...I also have 2 other distro booting from 10.04 grub2...now I want to add 12.04 to a partition and boot it from 10.04 grub...To what partition do I install grub 2 in 12.04 ???
[14:21] <uw> youd have to write something to do it in software
[14:21] <nnn> BlueEagle, No i wanted to know is there any app on kde that like HUD   , I am going to install that
[14:21] <haylo> can i recompile the ubuntu kernel to make it a bit smaller? i see all these extra arch 's in the kernel
[14:21] <uw> haylo, yes
[14:21] <BlueEagle> nnn: Oh. I misunderstood your question then. :/
[14:21] <K4k> I restarted my system today and after reboot, nm-applet and the battery monitor no loger appear in the top right. I can start nm-applet manually but even though it's in the startup applications list, it does not start properly. Can anyone help me out?
[14:21] <avidal_> hi, i can't boot my system right after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom .... done." it goes "could not log bootup: Address already in use, init: plymouth main process terminated"
[14:21] <usr13__> moes: Same one
[14:21] <avidal_> any idea?
[14:21] <wooo> can someone help me...its so difficult for me to proceed!!!!
[14:21] <usr13__> moes: Over-write
[14:22] <chrisgeorge> uw... Yes, I am aware of that. But I meant was you much like you can change your "keyboard layout" to be DVAROK instead of QWERTY, is there an easy way to map the CAPS LOCK key to any character or other mapping e.g. ESC.
[14:23] <chrisgeorge> Well actually I want it to be '`' but that's irrelevant I suppose.
[14:23] <BlueEagle> chrisgeorge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188761 seems to be a good place to start (1st hit on Google)
[14:24] <SmashLink> has anyone used ptpd? i'm looking for tutorials or examples
[14:24] <chrisgeorge> Thank you BlueEagle
[14:24] <genii-around> chrisgeorge: I don't think scankey will even show anything if just the capslock key by itself is pressed
[14:24] <C112911> how to get ubuntu my net too slow for downloading large file
[14:25] <BlueEagle> chrisgeorge: I think the .xmodmap is the better way of doing what you are trying to do.
[14:25] <plop28> is someone knows something about this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partimage/+bug/231488
[14:26] <chrisgeorge> That's what I was eventually coming to the conclusion of. Just thought by now someone would have a nice GUI to do these things ;) You know, like add Mac Keyboard shortcuts in Gnome/KDE ha ha.
[14:26] <nnn> kde vs unity,,which one is better?
[14:27] <_ruben> personal preference
[14:27] <BlueEagle> !ot | nnn
[14:27] <BlueEagle> nnn: This is not a channel for polling nor starting flame wars. Thank you.
[14:27] <nnn> OK
[14:28] <auronandace> nnn: use whichever you prefer
[14:30] <arcaico> Hello. Anyone Can help me? My problem is with Bluetooth http://pastebin.com/PW7rnraD
[14:30] <nnn> can I install all kde programms on my unity ubuntu?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> nnn, kde already has a menuapp option , like hud ,as part of the krunner , but don't base your choice for a desktop on HUD
[14:32] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I am up and running with the new driver on one of the "problematic" latitude netbooks.  We'll give it an hour or two and see how it goes. I'm going to leave the office and go on some of the support emails I got while I was working on this.  I will be back in a bit and we'll see if this new driver is working better.
[14:32] <nnn> BluesKaj, thanks for your answer and your help
[14:32] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I'll be running off to ultimate frisbee practice in a couple of hours. May not be here. :)
[14:33] <Guest2558> Hey guys I burnt ubuntu to a flash drive and (just stay with me here) I want to take the files I burnt onto the flashdrive and rip them off and package them in an ISO file
[14:33] <Guest2558> IS there any kind of tutorial for this?
[14:34] <BlueEagle> Guest2558: You want to google for mkisofs
[14:34] <Guest2558> BlueEagle
[14:34] <auronandace> Guest2558: didn't you use an iso to make the usb?
[14:35] <nnn> can i install all kde desktop programes on unity ubuntu?
[14:35] <BlueEagle> Guest2558: However you may not have a bootable iso if you just mkisofs from the USB drive.
[14:35] <nnn> or better i be say on gnome
[14:35] <BlueEagle> auronandace: I am guessing he made changes to it and wants it to be bootable again.
[14:35] <auronandace> nnn: kde application will work in unity yes
[14:35] <Guest2558> BlueEagle: I need it to be a bootable is
[14:35] <Guest2558> iso
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Guest2558, http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=109736
[14:37] <Guest2558> BlueKaj: The flashdrive is a specially modified ubuntu OS that is for a class. a bunch of kids in the class cant get their wirless to work so I just want to throw it in a vm for them
[14:37] <arcaico> Hello. Anyone Can help me with Bluetooth? http://pastebin.com/PW7rnraD
[14:38] <compdoc> BluesKaj, that looks interesting
[14:39] <BlueEagle> arcaico: Does `lsmod |grep bluetooth` give anything useful?
[14:39] <arcaico> bluetooth             158438  10 rfcomm,bnep
[14:39] <BlueEagle> arcaico: You are looking for something like this yeld: bluetooth             158438  23 bnep,rfcomm,btusb
[14:40] <BlueEagle> arcaico: sudo modprobe btusb
[14:41] <nnn> How i can install kde on ubuntu ?
[14:41] <JaymesKeller> Hi, I'm having trouble installing ia32-libs on 12.04 x64. I get multiple errors when attempting to install it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084584/
[14:41] <BlueEagle> !info kde-desktop
[14:41] <cornfeed> anyone tried installing the 3.x kernel into lucid????
[14:41] <C112911> g
[14:41] <ikonia> cornfeed: not something I'd recommend
[14:41] <cornfeed> ikonia: por que?
[14:42] <Skei> Morning, all. I'm running 12.04 on a more-or-less decent laptop, but Ubuntu regularly just hangs for a few seconds. For example, when I use the Expose-like thing under Gnome3, or switching tabs in Chrome - basically, small things. It just freezes up for a few seconds and then is fine again. Any ideas ?
[14:42] <lamks> hello. After I copied a dir with cp -r and started editing those files - changes appear in both copies. How do I avoid it?
[14:42] <BlueEagle> !info kde-plasma-desktop|nnn
[14:42] <cornfeed> Skei: check your logs. sounds very odd
[14:43] <Skei> cornfeed, any specific logs ?
[14:43] <ativa_> BlueEagle, Can help me?
[14:43] <mr0wl> one of the packages i'm trying to upgrade is held back, how can i find out the reason behind why it's being held back?
[14:43] <Solver> also check dmesg
[14:43] <BlueEagle> !info kde-plasma-desktop | nnn
[14:43] <cornfeed> lamks: that does not make any sense....maybe try an 'ls -la' to find out if you symlinked???
[14:43] <Solver> sometimes things like bus resets will cause pauses
[14:44] <cornfeed> Skei: sorry i dont use ubuntu as a desktop, you would need to poke around. I am going to guess something with X or the like
[14:44] <Skei> Hmmmkay, thanks, cornfeed.
[14:44] <Hackerrrrrrr> how to hack wifi using ubuntu?
[14:44] <cornfeed> solver brings up a good point too ^^
[14:44] <Skei> Solver, was dmesg aimed at me ?
[14:44] <Skei> OK, I'll take a look at dmesg when it happens next.
[14:44] <Solver> Skei: yep.  look at it as well as the logs
[14:45] <genii-around> Hackerrrrrrr: We don't give advice here supporting such activities
[14:45] <cornfeed> Hackerrrrrrr: Beef project. atheros chipsets, homemade bi-quad
[14:45] <lamks> cornfeed: i've listed both folders with this command, what am I looking for?
[14:45] <BlueEagle> nnn: Please note that the size of the kde-plasma-desktop package (36k) includes all the dependencies.
[14:45] <JaymesKeller> Hi, I'm having trouble installing ia32-libs on 12.04 x64. I get multiple errors when attempting to install it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084584/ Any ideas on what to do?
[14:45] <cornfeed> lamks: and 's' in the beginning, similar to how you would see a 'd' if it is a directory
[14:45] <cornfeed> an*
[14:45] <Hackerrrrrrr> how to knw my wifi support injecting?
[14:46] <BlueEagle> arcaico: There is a bug that claims that if ndiswrapper is loaded then udev stops loading modules for new hardware. Do you have ndiswrapper running?
[14:46] <BlouBlou> Hackerrrrrrr: I think it supports if it's atheros or zystel/zistel
[14:46] <cornfeed> Hackerrrrrrr: there is a great guide. but check out http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=simple_wep_crack
[14:46] <lamks> cornfeed: no, they are drwxrwxr-x and drwxr-xr-x
[14:46] <cornfeed> Hackerrrrrrr: thats the simple one, there is a better more indepth on the same wiki
[14:47] <cornfeed> lamks: crazy
[14:47] <BlueEagle> arcaico: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/666206 has the full story
[14:47] <sicco> How do I know if a package will be updated for a certain version of Ubuntu. For example I have Ubuntu 12.04, and I use BaseX (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basex). BaseX' latest version is 7.3. How can I see if 12.04 will receive this update?
[14:47] <arcaico> BlueEagle, but I dont have ndiswrapper
[14:48] <cornfeed> lamks: i mean, that makes no sense. the only things that could be happening are symlinks, overlapping mounts (check with df) or you are just mistaking which directory you were in (check with pwd)
[14:48] <genii-around> !illegal | Hackerrrrrrr and also cornfeed and BlouBlou
[14:48] <cornfeed> sicco: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:48] <BlueEagle> arcaico: Oh. Well then that is not causing the issue then. After running modproble on btusb, were you able to find it using bluez (or similar)?
[14:48] <lamks> cornfeed: i am definetely in different folders
[14:48] <cornfeed> genii-around: penetration testing is piracy? give me abreak!
[14:49] <cornfeed> i get payed to do such things!!!!!
[14:49] <arcaico> Yes.. And not found
[14:49] <Skei> Hmmm, Solver, cornfeed, any chance you have a minute to take a look at my dmesg output ? I'm not sure what to look for.
[14:49] <cornfeed> Skei: sure, dpaste.org
[14:49] <genii-around> cornfeed: If you insist on helping them please do it in pm or else take it to the aircrack channel or so
[14:49] <lamks> cornfeed: thanks. Not in same folders though
[14:49] <BlueEagle> arcaico: But the lsmod |grep bluetooth now shows btusb also using the bluetooth module?
[14:49] <cornfeed> genii-around: i was going to suggest the same if it continued further. thank you
[14:50] <cornfeed> lamks: man i wish i had another idea. maybe a simple reboot? that is wild
[14:50] <Skei> Thanks, cornfeed. http://dpaste.org/GnLgm/
[14:50] <arcaico> now.. I change (bluetooth             158438  11 btusb,rfcomm,bnep)
[14:50] <lamks> cornfeed: i'm afraid I don't have such option due to several company servers running on this machine
[14:50] <sassas123> jthan: My provider doesn't support Fast Ethernet, so I reconfigured network from 100 Mbit/s to 10 Mbit/s
[14:51] <BluesKaj> sicco, if you have the proper repos enabled then basex will update and upgrade when they updated in the repos and as long as you either update and upgrade with package manager or apt-get
[14:51] <arcaico> and blueman-assistant not found adapter
[14:51] <camilleqco> join #adacampdc
[14:51] <axisys> how do I find out which pkg offeres rlib.pm ?
[14:51] <cornfeed> lamks: hmm, maybe ask in ##linux, alot of server admins hang out in there
[14:51] <lamks> cornfeed: thanks, I'll try
[14:51] <cornfeed> good luck
[14:51] <axisys> apt-cache search rlib.pm gives no answer
[14:51] <sicco> BluesKaj: but that would require me to add the BaseX PPA manually right?
[14:52] <axisys> do I need to use cpan to install rlib.pm as the only option?
[14:52] <cornfeed> Skei: i see nothing that points to why it would hang :-/
[14:53] <BluesKaj> sicco, no ,ppa is not a normal repos , I meant basex is in the regular repos
[14:53] <BlueEagle> axisys: 3rd link when googling "install rlib.pm ubuntu" is: http://www.quoture.com/linux/installing-rlib-on-ubuntu
[14:54] <Skei> cornfeed, OK, thanks for the help. I'll try looking at X logs, presumably I want to look when it happens
[14:54] <nnn> what command most i type to install kde on my computer ?  sudo apt-get install ..........
[14:54] <axisys> BlueEagle: i got the same link too.. but I am not sure if I understood.. I need to install php5-dev or libmysql++-dev ?
[14:55] <cornfeed> Skei: yeah, or write down the time so you can go back
[14:55] <nnn> can you answer me please?
[14:55] <Skei> cornfeed, aye, will wait for it to hit and then I'll take a look.
[14:56] <sicco> BluesKaj: so where do i find this up to date repos of basex then?
[14:56] <ikonia> nnn: kubuntu-desktop
[14:56] <Skei> I should locate my X logs first ;)
[14:56] <cornfeed> Skei: it also could very well be an odd hardware bus problem as was suggested earlier. I had something similar or a toshiba laptop I was running gentoo on. took me a month to figure it out
[14:56] <cornfeed> on*
[14:56] <OerHeks> nnn beter join #Kubuntu
[14:56] <cfhowlett> grrr.  multiple hdd reformats, installs of win7 because ubuntu wouldn't detect the win partition.  Finally fixed EASILY by removing gpt artifacts.  Dual boot is back!
[14:56] <nnn> can i use  two desktop like unity and kde?
[14:56] <Skei> cornfeed, funny, this guy happens to be a Toshiba...
[14:56] <cornfeed> lol
[14:56] <Skei> What specifically was it /
[14:56] <cornfeed> a satellite
[14:57] <cornfeed> i forget the exact model
[14:57] <Skei> Same
[14:57] <Skei> But I was asking about the exact problem you found, actually :)
[14:58] <cornfeed> Skei: oh, i was using beta drivers at the time (bleeding edge gentoo and all) and trying to run compiz.  i ended up giving up once I realized it was a hardware issue.
[14:59] <lostforsaya> I'm chinese student,ti's my first time to use irc
[14:59] <Skei> Hmmm, I think Gnome3 runs some Compiz, I could potentially drop that
[14:59] <sicco> cornfeed: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't show me if a certain package will receive updates right? Or did I miss that info
[14:59] <TheM4ch1n3> lostforsaya: hello, IRC is the best social network
[15:00] <cornfeed> sicco: no i think it just shows you what is currently there.
[15:00] <cornfeed> sicco: what do you mean?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> sicco, ppa repos do not always contain stable packages stable and not necessarily "up to date" as you call it , but if you insist then add the ppa to your sources list with this command or copy and paste the debs from the launchpad ppa to your sources list , there are instaructions there to help you do so.
[15:00] <nnn> can i use 2 desktop beside like unity and kde?
[15:00] <nnn> ??
[15:00] <nnn> what is plasma?
[15:00] <sassas123> nnn:sure
[15:00] <nnn> what is plasma on kde?
[15:01] <sassas123> nnn: it's default desktop envirnment, i think
[15:01] <BlouBlou> nnn: the desktop enviroment, gadgets...
[15:01] <bekks> sassas123: No.
[15:01] <TheM4ch1n3> nnn: the help icon on KDE start bar, has got a search, type plasma ;)
[15:01] <bekks> nnn: Plasma is the desktop of KDE.
[15:02] <genii-around> nnn: "plasma" is the interface. like kde-plasma-desktop is the interface for desktop version, kde-plasma-netbook is the interface for netbook versions
[15:02] <bekks> sassas123: The Desktop Environment is the (K) (D)esktop (E)nvironment.
[15:02] <sassas123> what's the most hardcore desktop environment?
[15:02] <watchdawgg> CLI desktop environment
[15:02] <BlouBlou> sassas123: awesome ;P
[15:03] <BlueEagle> sassas123: That would be !ot I guess.
[15:03] <TheM4ch1n3> sassas123: KDE and gnome are very memory hungry, gnome a bit less, I suggest looking for derevitive works, based on either
[15:03] <sassas123> bekks: are there any alternatives to Plasma?
[15:04] <bekks> sassas123: Actually no one forces you to use KDE. :)
[15:05] <sassas123> TheM4ch1n3: I use XFCE, but Network Manager is a horrible. And I'm downloading Kubuntu
[15:05] <TheM4ch1n3> sassas123: I use xfce, because its lightweight and very stable, I add some xfce- packages though, like sensors and bargraphs
[15:05] <sassas123> TheM4ch1n3: How to activate Fast Ethernet in XFCE?
[15:06] <bekks> sassas123: Thats not an XFCE problem at all.
[15:07] <sassas123> bekks: I want to use KDE but I don't want to use Plasma. Today I've seen Internet provider's laptop. It was Kubuntu but without Plasma!
[15:07] <TheM4ch1n3> sassas123: I use ifconfig, and ip or tc for speed stuff, mybe you need to setup QoS ??, I dunno
[15:07] <bekks> sassas123: You can even use KDE with Openbox if you like it.
[15:07] <bekks> TheM4ch1n3: QoS isnt needed at all for that.
[15:07] <bekks> TheM4ch1n3: Since the media speed cannot be changed by QoS.
[15:08] <TheM4ch1n3> bekks: oh
[15:08] <Rikun> Hello?  I need some help getting a program called gparted
[15:08] <sassas123> TheM4ch1n3: But how can I switch mu Ethernet connection from 100 to 10 Mbit/s
[15:08] <TheM4ch1n3> bekks: what do you mean KDE with Openbox, how does that look ?
[15:08] <Rikun> What is this program?
[15:08] <DJones> !info gparted
[15:08] <Rikun> I was told it would help me see my corrupted drive
[15:08] <bekks> TheM4ch1n3: Looks like KDE without plasma.
[15:08] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: its a partition editor, helps you resize partitions, like perhaps NTFS
[15:09] <bekks> sassas123: By using ethtool e.g.
[15:09] <TheM4ch1n3> bekks: oh, you mean change the speed of the device ?
[15:09] <Rikun> TheM4ch1n3, so what does that have to do with a corrupted USB?
[15:09] <sassas123> bekks: Could you help me? I used: ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed 10 duplex half
[15:09] <BlueEagle> Rikun: If it is very corrupt you may want a GParted live-cd or the Ubuntu live-cd for that matter.
[15:09] <sassas123> bekks: but it doesnt work
[15:10] <Rikun> Well, here's what happened:
[15:10] <bekks> sassas123: "Doesnt work" means?
[15:10] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: well I suppose the person was expecting you to use manual methods, normal fixups of "corrupted" stuff is allot of "hands on" work, with multiple tools
[15:10] <ahwan> hi
[15:10] <cfhowlett> ahwan, greetings
[15:11] <Rikun> ....oh man.....
[15:11] <Rikun> All this to recover data from one USB drive....holy cow....
[15:11] <Pici> !enter
[15:11] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: I would use a Knoppix LIVE CD, and one of the many recovery tools it has, but there is also PartedMagic, that has more tools
[15:11] <sassas123> bekks: I can't connect to the internet using 100 Mbit connection because of my provider. I set up Windows 7 driver and it works on 10 Mbit/s. How can I swiitch it on Ubuntu?
[15:12] <Rikun> theM4ch1n3: What's the most user friendly?
[15:13] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: well Knoppix runs with the CD in the drive, and will not work, if you remove the disc, also Knoppix, has some flacky GUI stuff, and PartedMagic ejects the disc and runs from RAM, I preferre PartedMagic
[15:13] <sassas123> bekks: Usin ethtool?
[15:13] <bekks> sassas123: Yes.
[15:14] <sassas123> bekks: Could you type a command?
[15:14] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: also, PartedMagic is a much smaller download <200mb and knoppix ~730mb
[15:14] <Rikun> TheM4chi1n3: I take it these are ways I can save money for data recovery?  A good number of companies I've talked to charge upwards of $200
[15:14] <ahwan> hello..every1 ..any1 interested 2 help me?
[15:15] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: yip, I would never pay for data recovery, I would just play around till I fix it myself, using said tools
[15:15] <ahwan> pv with me
[15:15] <bekks> sassas123: That wont help you, I guess :) How about starting with ethtool -s speed 10 eth0
[15:15] <TheM4ch1n3> ahwan: yeah, but what is your problem, brief description would help, otherwise like a million privmsg's will open, hehe j/k
[15:15] <uhoh_____> hello -- I think somehow my aptitude was borked ... maybe by installing skype. aptitude -f is saying I have 41 broken packages, and I should remove 233 packages and keep 77... should I trust it and Apply?
[15:16] <Jinxed-> anyway to duplicate broadcast packets across subnets
[15:16] <bekks> Jinxed-: Subnets were invented to avoid that :)
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !aptitude > uhoh_____
[15:16] <Rikun> TheM4ch1n3: Wait, if it's a partitioning problem.....I was using a program that was all about recognizing partitions.  It was called.....testdisk I believe.
[15:17] <Jinxed-> bekks, I understand that, but I need to duplicate broadcast of a specific source
[15:17] <Rikun> TheM4ch1n3: And according to that program, there was no partitions to fix.
[15:17] <hlsecurity> hey
[15:17] <uhoh_____> BluesKaj: so... aptitude went from being the better CLI to the one not to use?
[15:17] <bekks> Jinxed-: Then you have to configure your router/switch like that.
[15:17] <hlsecurity> hello
[15:17] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: well my method is, check if partition table is ok, if it is, fix filesystems, else recover filesystem using PartedMagic, or use its Partition recovery tool
[15:17] <ahwan> TheM4ch1n3 pv with me
[15:18] <Pici> !here
[15:18] <hlsecurity> :(
[15:18] <BluesKaj> uhoh_____, yes ,I'm afraid so
[15:19] <TheM4ch1n3> Rikun: I would start with cfdisk, and gparted is stronger, but I usually start with a simple, tool, and when needed use more bulky stuff only when needed
[15:19] <uhoh_____> BluesKaj: can I install synaptic to automatically fix whatever this mess is?
[15:19] <Rikun> TheM4ch1n3: Do you mind if I PM you?  It's feeling really cluttered here.
[15:21] <BluesKaj> uhoh_____, try sudo dpkg --configure -a first , synaptic does have a repair packages option , but I believe it uses the same command
[15:22] <uhoh_____> BluesKaj: and can I safely remove aptitude if I've been using it for the past few years (I understand that it's kept a list of all the changes separate from apt-get)
[15:25] <uhoh_____> BluesKaj: or can I still use aptitude to search for things and stuff
[15:25] <mrmagoo> Hy
[15:26] <hongyi> hello
[15:26] <mrmagoo> Please I need some help to configure a proxy on ubuntu 12.04
[15:26] <xlq> mrmagoo: Do you mean you want to set a proxy up, or you just want to use a proxy? What sort of proxy?
[15:26] <hongyi> how?
[15:27] <mrmagoo> I need tu use a proxy
[15:27] <BluesKaj> yes uhoh_____ aptitude fine for searches etc , there just aproblem with some dependencies with differnt architectures afaik
[15:27] <mrmagoo> the problem
[15:27] <mrmagoo> but with a problem
[15:27] <xlq> mrmagoo: There should be a "network settings" programme somewhere.
[15:27] <mrmagoo> the user has a arroba
[15:27] <uhoh_____> BluesKaj: whew thanks a lot for the info!
[15:28] <mrmagoo> its my complete email address
[15:29] <xlq> mrmagoo: In the HTTP proxy settings, in the "user name" box, enter your E-mail address.
[15:29] <steve___> Hey guys I am trying to log into my ubuntu as root
[15:29] <steve___> How do I go about doing this?
[15:29] <sassas123> bekks: so, do u have any idea of changing ethernet speed?
[15:29] <xlq> steve___: sudo -i
[15:30] <Guest34131> thanks
[15:30] <mrmagoo> xlq there is no place to put user name or password
[15:30] <xlq> mrmagoo: What is there then?
[15:30] <mrmagoo> on all settings-network
[15:31] <sassas123> how to change ethernet speed from 100 to 10 Mbit/s
[15:31] <mrmagoo> I have 3 possible settings none/manual or automatic
[15:32] <xlq> Choose manual.
[15:32] <Rocki34> Hello, I just installed Transmission. I am confused as to what to do next. It asks for a remote host, what do I have to type in?
[15:32] <xlq> mrmagoo: Well, try automatic first, but that probably won't work.
[15:33] <mrmagoo> xlq yep I put maual then the IP but there is no place tu put the user name or password
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, are you trying to download a torrent?
[15:33] <xlq> mrmagoo: What's the label for the box you put the IP address in?
[15:33] <steve____> Hey guys. I am logged into my terminal as root and I am trying to copy files from the flash drive to a file on my desktop...when I use cp to copy the files I get "cp: omitting directory 'enter/directory'"
[15:33] <steve____> Why is this happening?
[15:33] <mrmagoo> xlq network
[15:33] <xlq> mrmagoo: If it wants a URL, you can use http://email@address:password@ipaddress/
[15:33] <ikonia> steve____: you shouldn't be logged in as root
[15:34] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: Well, that's why downloaded Transmission, but the initial screen is some connection options and I don't know what to type in.
[15:34] <ikonia> steve____: cp -R for recursive directories
[15:34] <steve____> ikonia: what is recursive
[15:34] <mrmagoo> xlq ok i try that
[15:34] <beandog> steve____: means go into subdirectories
[15:34] <beandog> steve____: cp -r
[15:34] <steve____> ikonia, beandog: so cp -r will copy the files from the flashdrive?
[15:34] <ikonia> steve____: it will copy files that are directories and their contents
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, here's the process: find a torrent you want.  download the torrent seed file.  add that seed to your transmission and activate it so it'll download
[15:35] <xlq> steve____: Yes. Add -v as well to see what it's doing.
[15:35] <steve____> xlq ikonia beandog thank you
[15:35] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: Will do, will report with results.
[15:35] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I am having the same problem even with the new drivers. :|
[15:35] <K1rk> BlueEagle, My network interface disconnected itself again while I was gone.
[15:36] <K4k> I restarted my system today and after reboot, nm-applet and the battery monitor no loger appear in the top right. I can start nm-applet manually but even though it's in the startup applications list, it does not start properly. Can anyone help me out?
[15:37] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: Alright, so I clicked on the 'Get this torrent' link. It asked me which application I want to use to open it. I choose Transmission gui, and it gives me the connection window again.
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, wait one ...
[15:38] <mrmagoo> xlq I think its working thanks
[15:39] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, post a screenpic of what you're getting...
[15:39] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: One sec.
[15:40] <|MS|DjFlyBy> I wish there was a mediatomb alternative that is also free....
[15:40] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: http://i.imgur.com/TdwVC.png
[15:40] <flor_> hi, guys. I want to try out this distribution, but I am unable to burn an ISO or use a pendrive. I have seen the wubi installer (I currently run Windows) - The only problem is that I don't want to install -inside- windows. I would also like to be able to specify partitions to use. In short, is this possible?
[15:40] <LjL> |MS|DjFlyBy: what about ushare or gmediaserver?
[15:41] <maurizi0> Good day
[15:42] <njckname> I have a shell script that runs a command with su -l myusername -c "...", so every time it runs, it asks for my password. I want to run this script via cron so I have to make it so it doesn't ask for password. How can I do this? How can I run su from a shell script but it doesn't need the password?
[15:42] <maurizi0> Does any one know how to make iPod Shuffle 2º Generation work in Ubuntu/Linux?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, try a NON pbay torrent.  I'd guess you're getting that screen from pbay.  I've NEVER seen that screen for ubuntu torrents ...
[15:42] <xlq> flor_: Why can't you use a CD or flash drive? There are other methods of booting, too, such as over the network.
[15:42] <flor_> maurizi0: Take a look at gtkpod
[15:42] <Pici> njckname: put the command in root's cron.  i.e: sudo crontab -e
[15:42] <njckname> Pici, I will try
[15:43] <morpheush> su -l
[15:43] <flor_> xlq: basically, my hardware sucks. I can't burn and I don't own a flash drive.
[15:43] <xlq> njckname: "su" doesn't prompt for a password when run as root.
[15:43] <morpheush> su
[15:43] <danileigh79> Every time I attempt to install java through terminal (all different sources), it keeps coming back with error
[15:43] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: I'm definitely not getting it from PBay, the first time I started up Transmission it showed me that window.
[15:43] <maurizi0> thank you flor_ I will give it a try. But I need it to work in any media player, specially in Banshee.
[15:44] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: Maybe it's because I'm using the GUI, or is that completely irrelevant?
[15:44] <xlq> danileigh79: Did you install it with Ubuntu's package manager?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, can't say the gui would do that.  I'd suspect the your internet settings ...
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, orry I can't be more precise - this issue is one I've never had to deal with.
[15:45] <xlq> flor_: If there is a way to do it, it will be ratehr difficult.
[15:45] <danileigh79> xlq: USC? Or Aptitiude?
[15:45] <xlq> *rather
[15:45] <cfhowlett> *sorry*
[15:45] <xlq> danileigh79: Either.
[15:45] <xlq> danileigh79: For running Java programmes, I think the package you want is called openjdk7-jre
[15:45] <danileigh79> xlq: I'll try, I've been so used to installing through terminal, I didn't even think of that
[15:46] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: You can go into the same screen by going into the transmission GUI, then topleft you'll see an icon, click the arrow next to it and click connection options
[15:46] <|MS|DjFlyBy> LjL: some of my media clients do not see ushare and to my knowledge gmediaserver is not dlna compatible. I also need simultaneous on the fly transcoding
[15:46] <xlq> danileigh79: Well, if you installed with aptitude or apt-get, that's also what I meant by "with Ubuntu's package manager".
[15:46] <xlq> danileigh79: Which packages did you try to install, and what's the error message you get?
[15:46] <danileigh79> xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084682/
[15:47] <kokozedman> hey guys, I'm getting a weird Connection refused ... I use multiple addresses on eth1, and only the first address can accept connection, the rest exhibits a "Connection refused"
[15:47] <kokozedman> any ideas?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, try just accepting the settings and see if the process goes forward
[15:47] <xlq> danileigh79: Ah, I didn't even know Oracle's Java was still shipped.
[15:47] <xlq> danileigh79: Try doing apt-get purge oracle-java7-installer and then installing again.
[15:48] <Rocki34> cfhowlett: I've tried that, then when I try to open a torrent, it gives me that window. I close it again and nothing gets added.
[15:48] <cfhowlett> Rocki34, sorry, then.  Out of ideas.  Ask the channel again.
[15:50] <danileigh79> xlq: didn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084701/
[15:50] <K4k> So, new turn of events. For some reason nm-applet and the battery icon do not show up the first time I login but then if I log out and back in, they show up.
[15:51] <garuda> hey
[15:51] <garuda> @k4k
[15:51] <xlq> Rocki34: That's bad GUI design right there. "Connection options". Connection to what?!
[15:51] <K4k> garuda: hi
[15:51] <garuda> are u familiar with metasploit
[15:52] <delac> using Classic desktop. Is there a way to prefer notifyOSD over notification-daemon without removing the latter?
[15:52] <BlueEagle> K1rk: If you would want to disable IP6 then check http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-disable-the-ipv6-protocol.html Also any log info that may pertain to eth0 loosing any connectivity would be helpful I think.
[15:52] <K4k> garuda: not really, I've used it but I'm no expert
[15:52] <carpediembaby> hi. i am trying to loopback subdomain to my localhost but its not working. i have this "127.0.0.1 eu.local.me" in my /etc/hosts file but it still tries to go online
[15:52] <carpediembaby> can anyone point out what's wrong?
[15:52] <Rocki34> xlq: Well it gives you once you open it
[15:52] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Another thing; One, two or all three fail this time and was the one that didn't fail last time one to fail now?
[15:52] <Rocki34> xlq: gives you the options
[15:52] <xlq> Rocki34: Aha, judging by the port number 9091, it wants to connect to the Transmission server.
[15:53] <TheBadger412> cannot get phpsysinfo working
[15:53] <TheBadger412> 403 error
[15:53] <Rocki34> xlq: Should I change it? To what?
[15:53] <xlq> Rocki34: I don't know. Maybe try putting "localhost" in "remote host".
[15:54] <Rocki34> xlq: Don't you have the same thing? What are you connected to?
[15:54] <Rocki34> xlq: localhost gives me some kind of 'unauthorized' error
[15:54] <danileigh79> xlq: now I'm getting this error E:Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list (dist)
[15:54] <xlq> Rocki34: Try entering your user name and password as well.
[15:55] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I have posted some syslog information in my forum thread. I do not think it's ipv6 related but can you take a look real quick?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12090823
[15:55] <xlq> danileigh79: The archive it tried to download returned a 5.2 kB text/html document, which is presumably an error message.
[15:55] <xlq> danileigh79: http://download.oracle.com/errors/download-fail-1505220.html
[15:55] <Rocki34> xlq: 'Error: 401 Unauthorized user'
[15:56] <K1rk> BlueEagle, i need to find out what device state 8 and 2 are
[15:56] <K1rk> BlueEagle, and while I'm at it "reason 40" wouldn't be bad to know either.
[15:56] <xlq> danileigh79: Try installing OpenJDK instead.
[15:56] <xlq> Rocki34: Well it's a start :)
[15:57] <Rocki34> danileigh79: Your help got me on linux and everything (except for Transmission) is fully functional :D Thanks again
[15:57] <Rocki34> more specifically ubuntu precise
[15:57] <BlueEagle> K1rk: How long is the lease time?
[15:58] <K1rk> BlueEagle, let me look
[15:58] <Rocki34> xlq: I'll try another torrent client, do you know any that are good?
[15:58] <danileigh79> Rocki34: Anytime, now it seems though I have to reinstall my OS :(
[15:58] <xlq> Rocki34: I'm very happy with Deluge.
[15:58] <BlueEagle> K1rk: 48 hours
[15:58] <Rocki34> xlq: I will be installing that momentarily.
[15:58] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Would not be the reason.
[15:59] <K1rk> BlueEagle, oh it was in the info I gave you I assume?
[15:59] <K1rk> I was going to look on the Windows box but that works
[15:59] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Jul 10 09:19:49 160096 dhclient: bound to 10.9.6.77 -- renewal in 173292 seconds.
[15:59] <K1rk> BlueEagle, ah there ya go
[16:00] <ahwan> i want one type of financial help....any 1 interested 2 help a student?
[16:01] <bazhang> ahwan, thats offtopic here
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ahwan, financial help?  wrong channel.
[16:01] <ahwan> say the channel
[16:01] <ahwan> 2 join
[16:02] <bazhang> !alis | ahwan
[16:02] <K1rk> BlueEagle, let me know if you come up with anything, I'll be back in a few
[16:02] <bazhang> ahwan, try with alis, ask for more help in #freenode not here
[16:02] <BlueEagle> K1rk: When this issue hits the computer does unplugging and re-plugging the cable resolve it?
[16:02] <BlueEagle> K1rk: If not, what does syslog say when re-plugging the cable?
[16:02] <Dorian> witam all :)
[16:03] <Rocki34> xlq: Can you quickly point me to the Deluge installation directory. It's asking me what to open the link with and I want to select Deluge.
[16:04] <xlq> Rocki34: /usr/bin/deluge
[16:04] <Rocki34> Also, I'm new to Linux so I don't know where things are installed
[16:04] <Rocki34> Thanks
[16:04] <apatters> Hello! Could anyone help me with a networking question?
[16:04] <xlq> Rocki34: Almost all programs are in /usr/bin
[16:05] <nnn> this mean I type xev in terminal then press super what then i most to do? https://plus.google.com/101839830409692150605/posts/DErnSJbNy5bthis mean I type xev in terminal then press super what then i most to do? https://plus.google.com/101839830409692150605/posts/DErnSJbNy5b??
[16:05] <nnn> please help
[16:05] <vibhav> nnn: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:05] <Rocki34> xlq: SWEET! It's working :D Thanks, man.
[16:05] <vibhav> nnn: sorry
[16:05] <vibhav> nnn: Ignore
[16:06] <nnn> ignore?
[16:06] <xlq> Rocki34: No problem, glad I could help :)
[16:07] <apatters> Question: I have a fresh ubuntu 11.10 install that can ping other hosts but other hosts cannot ping it unless ubuntu initiates the connection. I disabled ufw and iptables but no luck. Any ideas?
[16:07] <Rocki34> xlq: Anything I should do with Deluge to configure or anything like that?
[16:07] <xlq> Rocki34: Not really, unless you want to set scheduling or throttling options.
[16:08] <Relondo> How can I use "()" in a terminal command?
[16:08] <xlq> nnn: Don't follow the advice on that page just yet.
[16:09] <xlq> nnn: Open the KDE control centre and find the keyboard shortcut settings.
[16:09] <nnn> but i type this in terminal xmodmap -e "keycode 64=F13"   is this bad for my kde?
[16:10] <xlq> nnn: xmodmap only changes things for the current session.
[16:10] <xlq> nnn: Anyway, you should be able to change the keyboard shortcut settings in the KDE control centre.
[16:10] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Using 'ethtool -K eth0 sg off' and then running the same copy seems to make everything work fine.
[16:10] <BlueEagle> K1rk: That is actually from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527209
[16:11] <Pupuser> broadcom bcn4312 on ubuntu 12.04 : i need to update driver..but only has wireless from windows 7 and puppylinux,,,no ethenet connection
[16:12] <Pupuser> broadcom wireless bcm4312 on ubuntu 12.04 : i need to update driver..but only has wireless from windows 7 and puppylinux,,,no ethenet connection
[16:12] <nnn> xlq:where is KDE control center?
[16:12] <bekks> Pupuser: Why exactly do you need to update the driver?
[16:12] <xlq> apatters: Maybe you didn't disable iptables fully.
[16:12] <nnn> I don't have that.
[16:12] <xlq> nnn: I'm not sure. I haven't used KDE 4.
[16:12] <Pupuser> i have no wireless connection
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Pupuser, you should be able to do an offline activation
[16:13] <bekks> Pupuser: Why do you suspect a driver update will help you?
[16:13] <xlq> apatters: try running "iptables -D" as root and try again.
[16:13] <Pupuser> everyone updates it using ethernet
[16:13] <Relondo> How can I use parentheses in the terminal?
[16:13] <xlq> Relondo: By typing them in.
[16:13] <Pupuser> becos everyone has the same prob with that adapter
[16:13] <xlq> Relondo: If you want to use them as part of a string, put quotes around them. For example, to create a file with parentheses in them, you can do: touch '()()'
[16:13] <haylo> Relondo, you might be looking to use ' single ticks' to help clean up your commands a bit
[16:14] <Relondo> xlq: It gives me an error "Bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[16:14] <bekks> Pupuser: Thats a lie. I have a BCM4312 and it works out of the box after installing b43 (if necessary) and the firmware for it - using a cable connection.
[16:15] <xlq> apatters: If you still can't ping after iptables -D then I don't know what to suggest.
[16:15] <Relondo> haylo: Single ticks?
[16:15] <xlq> Relondo: You have to actually type the quotes, as in
[16:15] <xlq> touch '()()'
[16:15] <Pupuser> i haVE NO CABLE CONNECTION IN UBUNTU bEKKSi
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:16] <Pupuser> sorry
[16:16] <apatters> xlq: Thanks, running iptables -D gives me iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?). How can I delete all rules?
[16:16] <OerHeks> Pupuser, then you won't be able to get the BCM firmware from the internet, unless you do !offline
[16:16] <Relondo> xlq: So if I'm trying to change directories, where would I put the touch? Before the "cd" command?
[16:16] <xlq> apatters: Sorry, iptables -F
[16:16] <Pupuser> I'm on internet right now
[16:17] <xlq> Relondo: No, touch was just an example.
[16:17] <apatters> xlq: Thanks, iptables -F does not resolve the problem though. :(
[16:17] <Relondo> xlq: Okay. So how do I do it in something like this:
[16:17] <xlq> Relondo: The important thing is that the parentheses are inside the quotation marks.
[16:17] <cfhowlett> pupuser here's how to activate broadcom offline.  It's actually pretty EZ
[16:17] <cfhowlett> http://www.ehow.com/how_7296322_install-driver-network-ubuntu-10_4.html
[16:17] <Relondo> xlq: Oh, that's it?
[16:17] <llaskin> where can i find a list of all packages?
[16:18] <xlq> Relondo: If you want to cd to a directory with parentheses in, you can do: cd 'Some directory with (parentheses) and (spaces)'
[16:18] <xlq> Relondo: Yeah, that's it
[16:18] <bekks> Pupuser: Then check wether the b43 driver is already installed and wether the firmware is installed.
[16:18] <Relondo> xlq: So do I need parentheses around the whole directory if only parts of it have parentheses/spaces?
[16:19] <xlq> Relondo: parentheses->quotes. No, you don't. You can do this: cd foo'('bar')'bletch
[16:19] <Pupuser> will this work for ubuntu 12.04?
[16:19] <Relondo> xlq: Alright. Thanks for the help.
[16:19] <Crup> Hi all. I'm supposed to install something I barely see what it will be for (called compat-wireless), and a patch has to be applied on it. Do i have to first apply the patch before doing make && make install ?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Pupuser, yes I just fired up my dell 1545 about 1 hour ago while offline.
[16:20] <xlq> Crup: Yes.
[16:21] <K1rk> BlueEagle, unplugging and replugging the cable does NOT resolve the issue when that happens.  I will try tailing syslog while I do that and I will try ethtool.  Copied to my clipboard, thanks
[16:21] <xlq> apatters: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
[16:21] <xlq> apatters: I suspect it might contain 1. If it does, as root do: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
[16:22] <Relondo> Oh, also, how do I symlink two folders?
[16:22] <apatters> xlq: contains 0.
[16:22] <xlq> Relondo: You don't symlink two folders, you create a symlink to a folder. It's not symmetrical.
[16:23] <xlq> Relondo: ln -s foo bar # this will create a symlink called bar that points to foo. Foo can be a directory.
[16:23] <Relondo> xlq: Ah.
[16:23] <xlq> apatters: Can you ping your own IP address?
[16:23] <Relondo> xlq: Wait, is foo a command, or just a placeholder name for a directory?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> how come ubuntu does not hide files in folder to other users?
[16:23] <xlq> Relondo: It's just an example directory name.
[16:23] <cfhowlett> Pupuser, this tutorial is better organized.  see the "no internet access" section
[16:23] <cfhowlett> http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[16:24] <Chad___> Relondo, just a placeholder
[16:24] <BlueEagle> K1rk: The bug in the redhat bugzilla did result in a patch that has been accepted upstream on 2.6.32. As such it should not have been an issue. This is of course unless the patch is RedHat only.
[16:24] <Relondo> xlq: So would I use that command while inside the folder I want to be symlinked to the other folder?
[16:24] <Relondo> chad___: Thanks.
[16:25] <stefo> fo
[16:25] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Now I don't know how you would go about patchign the tg3 driver to resolve the issue so the ethtool is the simplest solution as far as I can tell.
[16:25] <K1rk> BlueEagle, unplugging and replugging the ethernet cable DOES affect the activity lights. But DOES NOT affect /var/log/syslog in any way.
[16:25] <xlq> Relondo: No, ln creates the link. That example I gave creates the link "bar". There mustn't be something already called "bar" in the current directory.
[16:25] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I will have to reboot to apt-get install ethtool. One moment.
[16:25] <sassas123> How to change Ethernet speed?
[16:25] <unkn-error> ubuntu desktop 32 bit is having a PAE kernel by default?
[16:26] <xlq> Relondo: You can't link a directory that already exists.
[16:26] <Relondo> xlq: Okay.
[16:26] <BlueEagle> sassas123: Are you asking how to select between 10Mbps and 100Mbps or 1Gbps on a wired network card?
[16:27] <sassas123> BlueEagle: Yes
[16:27] <K1rk> BlueEagle, there was no output from that ethtool command. What was it supposed to have done?
[16:27] <xlq> apatters: Apart from trying a different OS to see if it's the OS or the network you're on, I have no idea what to try.
[16:28] <BlueEagle> sassas123: Googling for 'ubuntu how do I change wired network speed' did produce some nice results.
[16:28] <Relondo> xlq: Can I move a linked directory after creation?
[16:28] <xlq> Relondo: Yes. A symlink basically contains an absolute or relative path to the linked-to file.
[16:28] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I am not sure if that will produce output or just change the settings. I guess `man ethtool` will point to what that command actually does. (You should always check the manual before executing commands given in here!)
[16:28] <Relondo> xlq: Alright. Thanks  a bunch!
[16:29] <xlq> Relondo: If you move the linked-to file, the symlink becomes broken and has to be updated.
[16:29] <hunterloftis> Hey guys, I'm following the 'upstart cookbook' to set uid and gid for a process, but the job doesn't start in the user's environment (so it doesn't have his PATH, etc). Any simple way for me to correct that? I can't find anything in the docs
[16:29] <Relondo> xlq: Got it.
[16:29] <bekks> sassas123: I already told you, didnt I?
[16:29] <xlq> Relondo: If you move the link itself to a different directory... well, if the link had a relative path, the link might become broken.
[16:29] <Relondo> xlq: Best to do it again, then.
[16:30] <Till0474> How can I deactivate a broken notebook keyboard?
[16:30] <xlq> Relondo: You can see the absolute or relative path a link has by doing: readlink <link>
[16:30] <sassas123> bekks: I don't know why your methods don't work. I use all that I found
[16:30] <Relondo> xlq: Okay.
[16:30] <sassas123> bekks: Unfortunately, I did it in Windows 7 many times faster
[16:31] <fresh-nes> I boot ubuntu on my Pandaboard. With the kernel 3.3, every thing was fine, but since I use kernel 3.4, my touchscreen hdmi is ignored during the boot... In conclusion : the boot is done, I can use a terminal thanks to the serial port, but I don't have any hdmi output. Do you have any idea ?
[16:31] <bekks> sassas123: I am sorry, but I dont care about Windows :)
[16:31] <BlueEagle> K1rk: sg off turns off "scatter-gather" on the network interface.
[16:31] <PapaSierra> is there a way to receive an incoming request on a certain ip and then "reroute" that request off to another ip of a totally different server?
[16:31] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Feel free to research it further if you'd like. :)
[16:32] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Also ofcourse 'ethx' needs to be 'eth0' for you.
[16:32] <apatters> xlq: It is puzzling. I have netstat open watching for traffic to the problem machine. Just now some traffic flashed by, and I found I was able to ping the machine. 30 seconds later, ping requests once again return 'destination host unreachable.'
[16:32] <xlq> PapaSierra: Yes, look at socat
[16:32] <K1rk> BlueEagle, meh, ethtool commands are reversible with a reboot :P
[16:32] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Oh, never mind. That was the command I pasted. :)
[16:32] <xlq> apatters: But TCP works OK?
[16:32] <BlueEagle> K1rk: rc.local
[16:33] <apatters> xlq: Yep. Can browse the web etc. on that box. Just can't initiate a connection from some other host to it.
[16:33] <Till___> Or more generally: is there a way to 'unmount' a device from the /dev directory?
[16:33] <compdoc> sassas123, I think you can specify in /etc/udev/rules.d/70persistent-net rules, but Im not sure. You shouldnt have to do that
[16:33] <xlq> PapaSierra: You can use socat to reroute TCP connections, but note that all the traffic of that connections goes through socat.
[16:33] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Just add the command to /etc/rc.local on all computers and you should be ok.
[16:34] <K1rk> BlueEagle, per one of my friends' suggestions, I have done modinfo tg3.  Here is the modinfo for the one running the stock driver. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084767/  Here it is for the one running my new driver.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084763/
[16:34] <xlq> apatters: And both computers are on the same subnet?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> howto set permission to a folder so other users cant browse its content
[16:34] <BlueEagle> K1rk: That modinfo tells me nothing, sorry.
[16:34] <xlq> lotuspsychje: chmod go-rwx <the directory>
[16:35] <apatters> xlq: Confirmed.
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> xlq:tnx mate, how come this is not enabled by default?
[16:35] <K1rk> BlueEagle, it does tell which version of the driver is loaded.  It confirms that my new driver is loaded on the test machine.
[16:35] <xlq> lotuspsychje: chmod means "change mode" (permission); go means group and other users, -rwx means remove read, write and execute permissions.
[16:36] <xlq> lotuspsychje: Well, the umask determines the permissions of new files. If you change your umask to 0077, new files you create won't be world- or group-readable.
[16:36] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I am unfortunately not able to help you any further on this issue. Need to get ready for practice.
[16:36] <LaOdeAliFarisi> manisa
[16:37] <sassas123> bekks: After rebooting Ubuntu returns all the settings back
[16:37] <xlq> lotuspsychje: Not sure about Ubuntu but on Arch Linux, for example, home directories default to being completely private.
[16:37] <Kartagis> !find aclocal
[16:37] <Till___> nobody woth an idea? i have a working usb keyboard and a notebook keyboard. the latter sends nonsense signals after i pulled water on it. I would like tto tell the system that it ignore the signals from the notebook keyboard.
[16:37] <xlq> apatters: You could try ##networking or ##linux.
[16:37] <K1rk> BlueEagle, no worries, I will continue looking into it this afternoon. Maybe someone else will be able to help out.
[16:38] <K1rk> Thanks for taking a look with me BlueEagle
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> xlq:maybe ubuntu set users to choose if they want encrypted home dir or not?
[16:38] <Crup> Hi, can you correct me if this is wrong ? : "applying a patch to a package" = 1) I download the .patch file inside that folder (wget http:...), then I just apply the command patch ? Ty
[16:38] <xlq> lotuspsychje: Access control and encryption are two separate things.
[16:38] <mman> can anybody help me with a script that reads only the first letter every line of an input file?
[16:38] <apatters> xlq: will try that, thanks.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> xlq: i just think its odd to set users to see other users content be default
[16:39] <Drain> how i can install flash for youtube services?
[16:39] <grumbold> could someone help me setting up a 5.1 soundcard with lowpass filter for the subwoofer under kubuntu ?
[16:39] <xlq> mman: while read line; do echo "${line:0:1}"; done
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> !kubuntu
[16:39] <Till___> Drain: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:39] <BlueEagle> K1rk: No worries. Helps keep my mind occupied. :D
[16:39] <xlq> lotuspsychje: Yes, it is rather.
[16:40] <Guest28727> Till___, that package doesnt exist on my aptget
[16:41] <Odra> Hello
[16:41] <mman> xlq thanks!!
[16:42] <Crup> Hi, can you correct me if this is wrong ? : "applying a patch to a package" = I download the .patch file inside that folder (wget http:...), then I just apply the command patch ? (i'd like to be sure before anything) Ty
[16:42] <PapaSierra> xlq interesting, thanks will investigate...
[16:42] <Till___> if flashplugin-installer does not exist, your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken. do you use ubuntu or another distribution?
[16:43] <Odra> Say, I think ubuntu just survived a hardware error which usually brought down windows
[16:43] <compdoc> Crup, Ive never had to install a patch - whats it for?
[16:43] <Guest28727> Till___, no its ubuntu
[16:43] <Crup> compat-wireless
[16:43] <Crup> compdoc : compat-wireless
[16:43] <BlouBlou> my ubuntu says "swap not avaiable", it seems that it didn't load it, how to manually load it?
[16:43] <Guest28727> Till___, but anyway how i can update ma repositories list
[16:44] <compdoc> ahh
[16:44] <Till___> Try it again, maybe there was a typo: it is called flashplugin-installer
[16:44] <apatters> xlq: noticed a message 'ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting.' in dmesg. Wondering if it could be a driver problem?
[16:44] <Odra> But now the all the windows are missing the top bar thingy. And the taskbar does not work. It seems I am not running a window management app which I guess was brought down by the hardware error
[16:44] <Crup> compdoc - but is that the correct way to apply a patch ?
[16:45] <compdoc> google:   ubuntu how to apply a patch
[16:45] <Odra> How can I restart ubuntu windows management app?
[16:45] <Odra> Or whatever is it called that handles the taskbar.
[16:46] <bekks> Odra: Log out, and log back in.
[16:46] <magpie> jizz in my pants
[16:46] <Odra> Eh?
[16:46] <Odra> Isnt there a way to do it from terminal?
[16:46] <genii-around> magpie: Please keep this a family friendly channel
[16:47] <guest1> hello folks... how are you? this is my first time here... I wonder if you can help me
[16:47] <magpie> shoot
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> guest1:just ask your question mate
[16:47] <Till___> please try adding deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[16:47] <guest1> how do I disable the sound at bot time un ubuntu 12.04
[16:48] <bekor> hi friends i am using ubuntu 12.04 adn i have issues with boot up if i unplug and plug back in. every other time is fine.but when i disconnect my computer and plug it back in it boots up really slow any ideas?
[16:48] <bekks> bekor: Disconnect your computer from what?
[16:48] <delac> does notification-daemon have some gconf/dconf settings?
[16:49] <magpie> guest1 are using ubuntu 12.04?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> guest1:try main ubuntu icon left upper/then look for 'startup items'
[16:49] <bekor> you know like to use it some where elseif i never have to move it or disconnect the as adapter i do not have problems to be more clear i am using a laptop
[16:49] <Odra> Guys, how do I close a window?
[16:49] <Till___> (that is the german repository but it should work from anywhere)
[16:50] <philmeister> Hello. I've been trying to install the game "League of Legends" using this guide:http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2107392 . I'm supposed to do this command: "/home/<username>/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-x86/<version>/bin/wine ./LeagueofLegends.exe", but I get this error: "philmeister@ubuntu:~$ /home/philmeister/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-x86/1.5.3-LeagueOfLegends/bin/wine ./LeagueofLegends.exe
[16:50] <philmeister> Log file is being written to C:\users\philmeister\Temp\LeagueofLegends.exe.log
[16:50] <PapaSierra> Odra you mean a window in your house?
[16:50] <philmeister> p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Does anybody know what this error coul'd be?
[16:50] <Odra> PapaSierra: No, I mean a window. Like this one.
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> Odra  type /part
[16:50] <Odra> There are no "x" butons anymore.
[16:50] <magpie> odra if the x doesnt work try right click with your mouse and hit close
[16:50] <raven> how to run a graphical tool as another user? xubuntu 12.04
[16:50] <compdoc> Odra, upper left corner
[16:50] <Guest28727> Till___, excuseme can you tell me where is the path of sources.list file
[16:50] <Odra> They arent there.
[16:50] <bekks> !paste | philmeister
[16:50] <Odra> They arent there in any window!
[16:50] <tking> pls how to check sendmail version
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | raven
[16:51] <bekks> tking: apt-cache policy sendmail
[16:51] <magpie> Odra doesnt matter, right-click-mouse and you should have multiple choises, hit CLOSE
[16:51] <compdoc> Odra, did you activate a video card driver?
[16:51] <Till___> Guest28727 it is at /etc/apt/sources.list (usually) and you need super user rights to edit it
[16:52] <guest1> how do I disable the sound at bot time in ubuntu 12.04. none of the suggested solutions in the web seems to work. the start up options do nothing.
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> raven: a cool package to run stuff as another user: sux username firefox
[16:52] <bekor> anyone else experience slow boot up on a laptop  with ubuntu 12.04?
[16:52] <Odra> Not sure. I think I had a hardware error thought, the window started showing static like pixels. Looked like a nintendo game that didnt work. Now the windows are missing the title bar.
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !bum | guest1
[16:52] <Odra> And the task bar does not work.
[16:52] <raven> ok tnx ill try that
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !info bum | guest1
[16:52] <magpie> guest1 do you have any app about the splash screen or login window somthing like that
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> bekor: what was default Os on your machine?
[16:53] <Guest28727> Till___, thanks body ...
[16:53] <magpie> guest1 do what ubottu said
[16:53] <Till___> Bekor:   check out what it writes on  a text console like   like tty 1 while it boots
[16:53] <guest1> THANKS ubottu I will try that.
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:53] <bekor> 12.04 but i also have cinnamon xfce kde and gnome desktop environments
[16:54] <Odra> Is there a way to restart the thing that manages the windows (and the taskbar)?
[16:54] <Till___> Bekor: it has nothing to do with xfce etc. Just check the output while it boots.
[16:54] <Odra> The workspaces wont work either.
[16:54] <magpie> Odra the right-click on the bar of the window didnt work?
[16:54] <bekor> till how do i do that?
[16:54] <DraIned> anyone uses magickjack under ubuntu?
[16:55] <Odra> magpie: There is NO window bar
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> DraIned:whats it for?
[16:55] <Odra> magpie: They disappeared!
[16:55] <bekks> DraIned: Just ask your real question please.
[16:55] <wN> philmeister: im not sure if anybody answered your question, but you're missing a library
[16:55] <Till___> Bekor: while it boots type ALT=SHIFT-F1
[16:55] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, for make calls
[16:55] <bekor> ok and how will that help me?
[16:56] <DraIned> wow its weird you dont know about magicjack is
[16:56] <magpie> Odra open terminal and run unity --reset
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: never tested it, is it linux app?
[16:56] <philmeister> wN: I'm new to ubuntu, would you explain what that means please?
[16:56] <Till___> Bekor: if:m #Beko: I am back in a moment
[16:56] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, no dude its a usb voip phone
[16:56] <Till___> Bekor: I am back in a moment, i will have to use another irc client this one sucks.
[16:57] <wN> philmeister: you're missing an package that you need to install. im trying to determine which one now
[16:57] <DraIned> its a terminal in a USB stick can connect a phone line and make calls
[16:57] <philmeister> Thanks alot wN!
[16:57] <DraIned> its a terminal in a USB stick can connect a phone line and make calls to another place
[16:57] <magpie> Odra have you installed simple compiz? there's a parameter that you can click which is called window decoration
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> DraIned:without linux software running?
[16:57] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, using ur internet
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: sounds cool
[16:57] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, thats the problem that i have :) i use this on windows but in linux i can use it
[16:57] <Odra> magpie: Nope. I imagine its related to the hardware error that happened just now.
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: you need ubuntu drivers for it :p
[16:58] <magpie> Odra hardware? have you installed the propriatery drivers that ubuntu reccommended?
[16:58] <Odra> magpie: I don't think its related to the drivers. Its more of a physical hardware error.
[16:58] <guest1> sorry folks... I am very new with linux and ubuntu.. I am afraid I do not understand what you suggest. "bum (source: bum): graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-1 (precise), package size 83 kB, installed size 520 kB"
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: what does lsusb in terminal give you?
[16:58] <DraIned> lotuspsychje,  allright
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> guest1: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install bum
[16:59] <magpie> Odra lets  start simple, hold ALT button and then right click on the window, does is show any options such as close minimize? hold alt and at the same time right click
[16:59] <guest1> the links provided talk about installation... and it looks like it is for an earlier version. :-(
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> guest1:after that you can run bum to set startup items
[16:59] <wN> philmeister: try $ sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring
[16:59] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, Bus 001 Device 003: ID 06e6:c200 Tiger Jet Network, Inc.
[16:59] <wN> philmeister: then retry
[16:59] <Odra> magpie: No.
[17:00] <guest1> HI lotuspsychje: guest1: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install bum... got you... will try that.
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: you might wanna check Tiger jet network drivers for ubuntu
[17:00] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, when i connect the usb tells me about windows softwares you know extensions like .exe and things like that !
[17:00] <magpie> Odra ok, open terminal and paste this command  gtk-window-decorator --replace
[17:00] <Odra> magpie: I assume whatever is it that controls the taskbar, workspaces and all window related functions, died.
[17:00] <Aturi> Bekor: what was your question again?
[17:00] <magpie> Odra maybe we can revive it, nothing dies in linux
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: this phone will be for windows (and software) so you need ubuntu drivers and software now...
[17:00] <Odra> magpie: Thats definetely amazing.
[17:01] <magpie> Odra what? the command worked?
[17:01] <guest1> MMM Something is installing....
[17:02] <Odra> magpie: Not yet, no.
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: http://www.magicjacksupport.com/mj-on-ubuntt-desktop-t9466.html
[17:03] <magpie> Odra go to menu and type CCSM, open it, go to Effects category and choose Windows-Decoration
[17:03] <DraIned> lotuspsychje, jaejeajeaj youre a beast@!
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> DraIned: easiest way would be virtualbox mate, or the harder way wine maybe
[17:04] <guest1> this kind of basic configuration and preference setting should be rather simple... why ubuntu doest not provide a default mechanism to perform this simple step.... it seems estrange one is forced to listen to some ugly sound and not been able to turn it off
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> guest1:other users might like a good startup sound
[17:04] <magpie> guest1 did you fix it via the BUM app?
[17:04] <guest1> installation completed... I will try the bum command ... see what happens
[17:05] <Till___> lotus: Yes but I agree that the Ubuntu drums can be really annoying.
[17:05] <magpie> lotus mate in 10.04 there was another app pre-installed similar to BUM that seemed to do the trick, something aobut start-up manager or login etc
[17:05] <magpie> Odra any luck?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> guest1  runlevel editing is not really a 'basic' function
[17:05] <guest1> wow... there you go... "You must run this application as root user"... but ubuntu does not allow you to login as root...
[17:05] <guest1> will use sudo..
[17:06] <guest1> see what happens
[17:06] <beandog> you can login as root, if you want to
[17:06] <beandog> just change the password
[17:06] <Odra> magpie: What menu
[17:06] <magpie> Odra the Unity menu, you do have 12.04 or not?
[17:06] <guest1> really? you can change the password?
[17:07] <Odra> magpie: I think I am using 11.04
[17:07] <guest1> but there is no root account....
[17:07] <beandog> of course
[17:07] <magpie> guest1 changing passwords IS a simple basic function
[17:07] <beandog> sudo su -
[17:07] <beandog> passwd
[17:07] <guest1> only the default user and guest....
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> beandog  guest1 type !root
[17:08] <guest1> aha... so you have to su to root and then change the password
[17:08] <guest1> is that right?
[17:08] <beandog> or you could do sudo passwd
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> !root
[17:08] <beandog> either way
[17:08] <magpie> Odra open terminal and type     sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:08] <magpie> Odra open terminal and type   sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:09] <guest1> aha... learning a little more... thanks for the tip folks....
[17:09] <guest1> now BUM is running...
[17:10] <Odra> magpie: What now?
[17:10] <joel135> what command do I use to monitor the output of a command? the result should be that of an infinite while loop with a sleep
[17:10] <_grawity> joel135: try `watch`
[17:10] <guest1> but there is a million entries in there... none mentions boot sound or something like that.
[17:11] <magpie> Odra is it installed??? If yes run the app, on your left it will say Effects, click it and and you will see an option that says Windows Decoration, enable it
[17:11] <_grawity> joel135: or, well, `while sleep 1; do ...yourcommands...; done` – depending on what kind of output you need
[17:11] <joel135> _grawity: watch is what I was looking for :)
[17:12] <magpie> does anyone remember the app that allowed you to change the ubuntu logo size when booting in 10.04 ??? it wasnt bum it was something else yet similar, thatll do the trick for guest1
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> guest1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123759/how-do-i-disable-the-startup-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04-login-screen
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> or
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-tweak | guest1
[17:14] <magpie> you need the repo
[17:14] <Odra> magpie: Its already ticked on
[17:14] <Odra> Unticking it and reticking it doesnt help either.
[17:14] <magpie> Odra restart the computer
[17:14] <guest1> lotuspsychje:  -- I have tried all the sugestions in that url but the darn drums still beating... :-)
[17:14] <Odra> lol
[17:15] <magpie> Odra tick it and restart
[17:15] <Odra> So in the end I have to restart it anyway xD
[17:15] <magpie> Odra yes
[17:15] <magpie> :)
[17:15] <Odra> But you said nothing dies on linux
[17:15] <Crup> Hi, what happens if I do make && make install again, but after having a patch applied to the package ?
[17:15] <Odra> So what happened to the taskbar, workspace and window manager?
[17:16] <joel135> when logged in at Ctrl+Alt+F<1..>, I get these annoying "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" messages. how do I disable them?
[17:16] <magpie> Odra you are using 11.04 which has bugs and its not an LTS version, so maybe a damn bug did the problem, but its easily fixed
[17:17] <Odra> magpie: Well, how do I update to 12?
[17:17] <joel135> or rather: how do I fix the issue?
[17:17] <magpie> Odra im not sure if you can upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 someone else will have to verify that otherwise you can download the iso 12.04 burn it and do a clean install
[17:18] <Odra> Anyway, are you sure there is not a menu that goes Item -> Phoenix Down -> Window Manager or something?
[17:18] <magpie> Never heard of that, maybe someone else knows about it, i gave you a few possible answers to fix it, just restart and maybe it will be fixed otherwise come back here
[17:20] <magpie> guest1 i found the app, it has an option to disable the sound on startup, its called start-up-manager
[17:20] <guest1> Hi magpie.... I am looking for it... Thanks
[17:21] <joel135> Odra: if upgrading, you need to do upgrades 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[17:21] <magpie> guest1 it did the work back in 10.04 version i hope it can do the same for 12.04 otherwise have you tried via the bios settings?
[17:21] <magpie> joel135 thanks for clarifying that
[17:21] <TheBlackV> Hello
[17:22] <guest1> no... I have not touch the Bios settings
[17:22] <anon> Hi all, quick question if you don't mind!... When I type 'sudo apt-fast remove mplayer' it just installs mplayer2, any idea why?
[17:22] <magpie> guest1 restart go to BIOS and see if there is an option to disable sound on startup, i had a sony vaio laptop that had a bios setting for it maybe you do have it
[17:22] <IdleOne> What is apt-fast?
[17:23] <Jordan_U> anon: I assume you mean "sudo apt-get remove mplayer"? And can you please pastebin the complete output of that command?
[17:23] <magpie> what is apt-fast?
[17:23] <anon> apt-fast is a script i use which makes apt-get use axel for faster downloading
[17:23] <guest1> DARN... I am afraid there is no start-up-manager in the list shown by BUM.... oh what a bummer... :-)
[17:23] <Jordan_U> anon: Can you reproduce the problem with plain apt-get?
[17:24] <magpie> guest1 not BUM mate, go to software center and type on the search box start-up-manager
[17:24] <nyc-h0st> guys, any good tools to display memory usage per process properly?
[17:24] <guest1> oh.... thanks... I will try that Magpie....
[17:24] <beandog> nyc-h0st: htop
[17:25] <Abratax> yo guys, my wireless card is not detected
[17:25] <anon> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/TY3sp2en
[17:25] <JW1224> have you downloaded the windows wireless drivers
[17:25] <magpie> abratax now or all the time?
[17:25] <Abratax> all the time
[17:26] <magpie> nyc-host install screenlets and then choose sysmonitor
[17:27] <nyc-h0st> beandog, it still suffers from the problem top and ps do, it would report forked processes independently, for example i'd have 20 processes on top with 1gig of reserved memory, which is pretty much impossible on a 3 gig box
[17:28] <JW1224> Abratax: did you download the windows wireless card driver
[17:28] <magpie> abratax have you tried the additional drivers?
[17:28] <nyc-h0st> i'm looking for something smart enough to walk the parent/child tree and arregate memory properly
[17:28] <beandog> nyc-h0st: see if hitting F5 helps
[17:28] <Jordan_U> anon: I assume that there is another package which depends on mplayer or mplayer2. What output do you get if you run "sudo apt-get remove mplayer mplayer2"?
[17:29] <nyc-h0st> aah, f5 is getting somewhere
[17:29] <nyc-h0st> let me play with this a bit
[17:29] <beandog> k
[17:29] <beandog> F6 to sort
[17:30] <magpie> guest1 i found another solution which needs the installation of ubuntu-tweak
[17:30] <anon> Jordan_U: It doesn't list any dependency and removes everything, thanks.
[17:30] <Jordan_U> anon: You're welcome.
[17:31] <shahriyarguliyev> hi room. I've got glitch with Terminal. I changed the fonts (i don't know exactly what is the problem) and now there is something wrong with fonts in Terminal window. You can see in screencast:  http://tinypic.com/r/blh90/6
[17:31] <Odra> Windows back on line :U
[17:32] <guest1> Boooo...:-$ the software centre replies..."No item match start-up-manager" ( or startup-manager) but there is a bootup-manager.... but that is for managing start up scripts at runlevels...
[17:32] <Odra> Magpie: I just noticed I am not running ubuntu 11
[17:32] <Odra> Magpie: I'm running 10
[17:32] <Odra> "Lucid Lynx"
[17:32] <magpie> Odra good to know. Even better!!! Anyways, when something breaks and you fix it you need to restart
[17:33] <magpie> guest1 let me check mate
[17:33] <XVampireX> damn unity launcher won't autohide for some reason :(
[17:33] <anon> Is there any way to remove all these 'joined' and 'has left' announcements on xchat?
[17:33] <Odra> Yes. Probably.
[17:34] <guest1> NYC-HOST try using "top"
[17:34] <shahriyarguliyev> hi room. I've got glitch with Terminal. I changed the fonts (i don't know exactly what is the problem) and now there is something wrong with fonts in Terminal window. You can see in screencast: http://tinypic.com/r/blh90/6
[17:34] <magpie> Guest1 apparently start-up-manager has been replaced by grub-customizer
[17:34] <magpie> Odra i prefer 10.04 best damn version
[17:35] <erdos> hey!
[17:35] <shahriyarguliyev> please help with this problem abbove explained
[17:35] <guest1> kool... thanks for that Magpie.... where are you from Mate?
[17:35] <Odra> magpie: Even so should I upgrade to 12?
[17:35] <nyc-h0st> shahriyarguliyev, read the terminal help, its in plain english
[17:35] <shahriyarguliyev> nyc-h0st: did u lookup pic?
[17:36] <shahriyarguliyev> nyc-h0st: hi room. I've got glitch with Terminal. I changed the fonts (i don't know exactly what is the problem) and now there is something wrong with fonts in Terminal window. You can see in screencast: http://tinypic.com/r/blh90/6
[17:36] <magpie> Odra if everything works fine (wireless, etc etc) there is no need to YET, try upgrading when 10.04 will stop from being updated officially
[17:36] <erdos> so, every time i apt-get something i never know where where the binaries and docs and configs get installed... and i don't know how to find them, are there stardard places for these files? and if a file isn't in it's standard place how can i search for it?
[17:36] <magpie> guest1 im greek, well, half at least, the other half is englis
[17:36] <nyc-h0st> dont need to look at a screenshot, the terminal is idiot proof, its just right click and options
[17:36] <magpie> h
[17:36] <IdleOne> shahriyarguliyev: if there is something wrong with the font after you changed them, change them back.
[17:37] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: i really don't know what is the problem
[17:37] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: http://tinypic.com/r/blh90/6
[17:38] <IdleOne> shahriyarguliyev: If you don't know what s wrong, how are we supposed to know? You said you changed the fonts and now there is something wrong, change them back.
[17:38] <Guest28780> hey just wondering is ther a way to get Terminal to check all onboard outputs?
[17:38] <nyc-h0st> IdleOne, its like talking to the wall
[17:38] <magpie> ODRA ubuntu 10.04 will be officially abandoned in april 2013, you can try upgrading then
[17:39] <Pici> !tab
[17:39] <magpie> guest1 you have a private msg
[17:39] <magpie> top left screen
[17:39] <compdoc> Guest28780, you mean display open ports, etc?
[17:40] <Odra> magpie: But the 12th looks cooler :O
[17:40] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: http://tinypic.com/r/blh90/6 please look up, there is letters one inside another..i've changed fonts, changed terminal shell,..lots of things has done, im not pro linux so dunno what is wrong
[17:40] <Guest28780> well my onboard sound does not work iv tried looking at all mixers I have installed but still no sound
[17:40] <Odra> I dont know what it looks like exactly, but I am sure its cooler.
[17:40] <magpie> Odra i know, but 10.04 is faster, maybe you could try linux mint cinnamon 13, thats even cooler and everything works out-of-the-box codecs, wireless etc etc
[17:41] <Odra> Besides I'm not really a linux guy. Yet. So it might be best to start with the latest LTS.
[17:41] <IdleOne> shahriyarguliyev: the only way I can think of to fix that is for you to change the font until you find one that is suitable.
[17:41] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: Did you try to use a non-monospace font?
[17:41] <magpie> Odra try Linux Mint Cinnamon 13, you wont have to install anything
[17:42] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: I said I don't know which font even which shell occured problem, sorry didnt help
[17:42] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: wait, i'll be checking up it, i guess i poked that adjustment.
[17:42] <Odra> magpie: Why so many distros?
[17:43] <erdos> searching for conf files anyone? surely i'm not supposed to just look through the whole file system for it? is there some way to get some sort of apt-get install log
[17:43] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: It's not what I would call an "adjustment". Some fonts are monospace, others aren't. You need a monospace font for use with a terminal.
[17:43] <beandog> erdos: maybe dpkg -L <package>  ?
[17:44] <surfinator> I am upgrading my OS from 32bit to 64bit as I am installing 4 gb extra ram, should I install the OS after I fis the RAM or before???
[17:44] <erdos> thanks! i'm a complete noob at linux so i've very much in the dark atm... doing man dpkg now :)
[17:44] <surfinator> fix*
[17:44] <magpie> Odra i have no idea, but Linux Mint is more user friendly and you dont have to install codecs and other stuff, it resembles windows kind of
[17:44] <beandog> surfinator: either way
[17:44] <compdoc> surfinator, install the ram, test it, then procced
[17:44] <Jordan_U> surfinator: It doesn't really matter. Do whatever order is easiest for you.
[17:44] <compdoc> proceed
[17:45] <surfinator> Thank you guys... :)
[17:45] <erdos> beandog: that is absolutely perfect, thank you!!
[17:45] <erdos> beandog++
[17:45] <beandog> cool
[17:45] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: Thanks for help but I did cure the problem, I unchecked the "System fixed width font" and it become normal. I think it was cos of the Cairo repositories I installed once..
[17:46] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: I solved it unchecking "system fixed widht font "
[17:46] <shahriyarguliyev> IdleOne: thanks anyway))
[17:47] <clubneon> Is there an upper limit to the number of drives that will be auto assembled into a RAID array by the kernel during boot? I have 16 drives, but only 8 auto assemble, --stop'ing and --assemble'ing after boot makes it work.
[17:48] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: By the way what is non-monospace font? My current font is Lucida Grande and there is no 'mono' prefix on it.
[17:49] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monospaced_font
[17:50] <erdos> mono-spaced
[17:50] <erdos> equal width of characters
[17:51] <erdos> like in terminal or code ides
[17:51] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: It appears that Lucida Grande is *not* mono-space.
[17:51] <mlpokn> Hey guys. How can I create a linux distro from my current ubuntu installation?
[17:51] <mlpokn> or, how can I rutn it in an ISO image
[17:51] <mlpokn> turn*
[17:52] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: it's clear, thank you sir.
[17:52] <piercedwater> I am trying ton convert FLAC to ALAC using avconv, but i get this error and avconv stops: [flac @ 0x824baa0] Format detected only with low score of 25, misdetection possible!
[17:52] <Jordan_U> clubneon: The same utilities should be used during boot for assembling as are used after boot. The kernel no longer auto assembles anything itself, instead initrd scripts are used to do that from userspace even at boot. Maybe some of the devices are taking longer than others to become available?
[17:52] <Till19474> mlpokn You mean with your specific hardware configuration?
[17:52] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: You're welcome.
[17:52] <mlpokn> Till19474. Yes.
[17:53] <clubneon> Jordan_U: The drives are 8 and 8 on different controllers. The 8 that get assembled are on the first controller. Is there a way to tell it to wait longer?
[17:53] <Jordan_U> piercedwater: Try asking in #libav.
[17:54] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: One more thing, can you find me a useful link to learn about HDD partitions. I am thinking about full Ubuntu install ( wubi now) and I've no additional HDD to copy my Data inside, so have to learn partitioning advanced not to take risk.
[17:54] <Till19474> mlpokn: http://lifehacker.com/5085405/make-any-linux-directory-into-an-iso-file
[17:54] <Jordan_U> clubneon: The "rootwait" kernel parameter might help, but I don't know the semantics of that parameter with regard to assembling an array.
[17:55] <wooo> hey can anyone tell me where login password store in ubuntu??is it in /dev/input??
[17:55] <Jordan_U> wooo: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[17:56] <Till19474> shahriyarguliyev You can use gparted to create a data partition. It can take a long time if you have to change the size of a partition to make some free hdd space, but it works usually.
[17:56] <mlpokn> Till19474. Hmm. I want to turn the whole OS in a single ISO, just like a fork for example. With all my current settings, applications, etc
[17:56] <Odra> Hmm
[17:56] <delac> does notification-daemon have some  settings?
[17:56] <clubneon> It's not the root fs either, just an array that's going to be shared out by iSCSI. The root fs is also on RAID, only the first 8 drives and it gets assembled.
[17:56] <Odra> If you are running 10.04, and the update manager says there is a new release avaiable.
[17:57] <Odra> Should it be 10.10?
[17:57] <Till19474> mlpokn: but with your hardware settings, right? you can use the link and create an iso from /.
[17:57] <wooo> Jordan_U: hey i got it..its in /etc/passwd ...
[17:57] <Jordan_U> wooo: No, it's not.
[17:57] <Jordan_U> wooo: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[17:57] <bekks> wooo: No. The password hash is stored in /etc/shadow
[17:57] <mlpokn> Till19474. How am I going to install it? That's what I don't understand
[17:58] <kjing> Anyone know if there's an app-indicator for the Nitro tasks application?
[17:58] <shahriyarguliyev> Till19474: SIr, I have ~600Gb filled HDD out of 700 Gb, can I install any linux without moving my Data somewhere?
[17:58] <wooo> Jordan_U: i just want to know for curiosity..:)
[17:59] <wooo> thanks @bekks..:)
[17:59] <magpie> Odra any more problems?
[17:59] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyes You can use the remaining free ~100GB, But it will take a long time to reduce the size of the ~600 GB partition.
[17:59] <Odra> magpie: I'm just wondering. Shouldnt the update manager show a 12 version upgrade instead of 10.10?
[18:00] <Odra> Or do I have to upgrade to 10.10 then 11 then 12?
[18:00] <magpie> Odra the latter
[18:00] <magpie> Odra: one upgrade at a time
[18:00] <Odra> This is gonna take some time T___T
[18:00] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: You should always have any important files backed up, no matter what you're doing. If you can't afford enough drive space for backups of everything you care about at least determine what you care about most and back that up to another disk / online storage / something.
[18:00] <magpie> Odra: however, i think a straight upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 will be up soon at least thats what i read
[18:00] <Odra> Haha, and I'm upgrading to soemthing that is no longer supported even
[18:01] <Jordan_U> Odra: Do not upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 from 10.04, that would be a silly thing to do.
[18:01] <Till19474> mlpokn No, if this is what you want to do you should export the contents of your /home directory seperately, then reinstall the system and then replace the default /home contents
[18:02] <Odra> I figured.
[18:02] <wooo> bekks:how can i get the read the password..i opened the /etc/shadow file...but still i cant get that?
[18:02] <MorrowW> Hey, I'm having issues with my CD drive detecting media when I insert a burned disc. Anyone have any advice? I can elaborate if needed.
[18:02] <Odra> Well, then how do I get this thing to 12?
[18:02] <Jordan_U> wooo: Passwords are not kept in plain text anywhere.
[18:02] <guest1> muOK FOLKS... TIME FOR ME TO GO... DESPITE YOUR ASSISTANCE STILL HAVE THE DARN DRUMS AT BOOT TIME.... THAT FOR YOUR HELP... IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
[18:02] <magpie> Jordan_U has the straight upgrade from one LTS to the latest been out?
[18:02] <Jordan_U> guest1: Please turn off caps lock.
[18:02] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: Back ups? it only backs up your apps not personal data. in any case i dont trust online storage-clouds. i can't upload 600 Gb. any ohter way?
[18:03] <Till19474> woo only root can help you out, if you have no root password you can do nothing, or maybe ask the NSA
[18:03] <beandog> not necessarily
[18:03] <mlpokn> Till19474. I guess I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[18:03] <magpie> Odra dont  upgrade yet, by the end of July there will be a straight upgrade to 12.04
[18:03] <beandog> you can always boot off a live CD and change the password with a chroot
[18:03] <beandog> super simple
[18:04] <Odra> magpie: Oh, ok then.
[18:04] <hunterloftis> Having trouble with sudo... I've added {{serviceName}}     ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/{{serviceName}}/local/bin/node to sudoers.d, but running $ sudo node as that user still prompts for a password. Thoughts?
[18:04] <MorrowW> I'm having issues with CD drive recognizing media has been inserted.
[18:04] <magpie> Odra: just wait otherwise you're gonna have to upgrade 2-3 versions until you reach 12.03
[18:04] <magpie> 12.04
[18:04] <Till19474> MorrowW Do you mean you cannot access the cdrom contents?
[18:05] <MorrowW> Yes, the computer tells me that there is no media inserted.
[18:05] <shahriyarguliyev> anybody is good at partitioning?
[18:05] <Till19474> MorrowW You've got to mount it then.
[18:05] <guest1> BYE FOR NOW... Thanks Magpie for your assistance... you are a champion.
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> shahriyarguliyev  shoot
[18:05] <wooo> Till19474: i have root permission...i am able to access /etc/shadow file...but i cant get it...how to get it in plain text Jordan_U???
[18:05] <magpie> night mate
[18:06] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: I'm not even talking about installing Ubuntu at the moment. I'm guessing that if your hard drive died tomorrow (entirely possible, hard drives are known to fail) you would not be very happy. You should try to back up as much as you can of what you consider most important so that *when* you have a catastrophic failure (it will happen at some point) you will at least have your most important files still.
[18:06] <Jordan_U> wooo: It's not possible.
[18:06] <beandog> wooo: you can't get the password, but you can change it
[18:06] <MorrowW> Till19474  How can I go about doing that?
[18:07] <luzido> shahriyarguliyev: whats the problem with partitioning?
[18:07] <wooo> beandog: by using passwd command ??
[18:07] <beandog> right
[18:07] <kilo> how to create a VPN in my home and how to use it securely ?
[18:08] <shahriyarguliyev> MonkeyDust: I want to install Ubuntu (any other linux maybe) fully (current is on wubi). But I have no external HDD to move my Data (about 600 Gb is filled out of 700 Gb HDD). So I have to make a clean partition, need a guide
[18:08] <wooo> Jordan_U: i got it its in encrypted form...but there should any way to decrypt it??
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> kilo  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[18:08] <Till19474> MrrowW: check out the contents of /dev. The cdrom is something like sdb* or sdc* usually. You create a /media/cdrom directory and then you use mount /dev/sd? /media/cdrom. if you are not sure which sd* file it is you can figure it out with the trial and error method. After you found the CDrom, it is mounted and you can access the data.
[18:08] <auronandace> shahriyarguliyev: if you have nowhere to backup your data then your data isn't that imortant to you
[18:09] <auronandace> important
[18:09] <luzido> kilo: ask google, search a howto or a tutorial this is not a good place for not specific question
[18:09] <jrdnn> wooo: Generate sha hashes for every combination of characters allowed in the password, After about 2^128 tries you should have the plain text password :)
[18:09] <MorrowW> Till19474 Thanks for the advice. I'll give this a shot.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> luzido  don't sy
[18:09] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: Thanks for advice Sir. I'll  be considering it in the next reliable OS..this sucks --WIndows 7 (already crashed) and WUBI..no need to back up for now.
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> luzido  don't say to google something, when people ask for help, please
[18:10] <Jordan_U> wooo: It's not encrypted, it's hashed. You can't "unhash" something.
[18:10] <Till19474> auronandace Don't be sure about that. I know lots of guys who do not care a sh* about data backup until it is too late. for example diploma thesis with no copy anywhere.
[18:10] <auronandace> Till19474: my point was exactly that
[18:11] <beandog> Till19474: oh man, don't even say that
[18:11] <FoolsRun> Hello, I have a weird problem since updating to 12.04: I have autologin enabled and the computer only boots past the splash screen every _other_ boot. If I disable autologin it works fine. If I delete ~/.Xauthority before rebooting it works fine. Has anyone seen this?
[18:11] <kjing> Kilo: A VPN client (the software for using a VPN) comes already installed in all recent versions of Ubuntu.
[18:11] <shahriyarguliyev> auronandace: it is not case, my data is pretty important. but i no money to buy external HDD right now as a student..
[18:11] <auronandace> shahriyarguliyev: then you should save up for one
[18:11] <kilo> MonkeyDust ; i found PPTP , CIsco VPN , OpenVPN ,Ipsec VPN on yours suggested page . Can you filter them according to my requirement .
[18:12] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: How devistated would you be if your hard drive died tomorrow?
[18:12] <FoolsRun> shahriyarguliyev: use Dropbox if you can't buy external storage
[18:12] <shahriyarguliyev> auronandace: and it is not 30 Gb like thing, it's 600+Gb..
[18:12] <auronandace> shahriyarguliyev: yup, i have a 750gb backup drive
[18:12] <kjing> Kilo: But I don't know enough to help you beyond that.
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> kilo  yes, try filtering to get the information you require
[18:13] <auronandace> shahriyarguliyev: if you don't back up you will regret it, it means your data isn't important
[18:13] <shahriyarguliyev> Jordan_U: I changed my HDD last year, it's safe though. but i will consider it after getting fresh OS
[18:13] <Till19474> shahriyarguliyev at least for the most important documents, an usb stick and / or (better: and) a cost free cloud account like dropbox is good to have.
[18:13] <kilo> MonkeyDust: i need to setup a Network in my home that hardly contain 2-3 PC only
[18:13] <wooo> Jordan_U: ok i got this..:)...i have one more query..i know the root password..i am able to switch on root by su root in terminal but while login when i try to get login as a root user i cant...
[18:14] <wols> xskxwraith: just ask
[18:14] <shahriyarguliyev> auronandace: stop dazzling on your data is not important for me, please.
[18:14] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyev and if you really have 600 GB of very important data, i wonder what that could be.
[18:14] <shahriyarguliyev> Till19474: how many free space does it give?
[18:14] <ridick> прива есть русские
[18:14] <ridick> ?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[18:14] <Jordan_U> wooo: You shouldn't have set a root password and you should never run a GUI desktop environment as root.
[18:14] <NomadicV> One could only guess...
[18:14] <wols> Till19474: RAW pictures and camcorder movies from the last holiday get big fast
[18:14] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyev a usb stick about 8 GB, dropbox 2 GB
[18:14] <FoolsRun> Question: is .Xauthority supposed to delete itself on shutdown/reboot?
[18:15] <wols> FoolsRun: yes afaik
[18:15] <Jordan_U> wooo: You can't login as root from lightdm because lightdm knows that it's a terrible idea and so it (thankfully) won't let you do it.
[18:15] <Till19474> wols Yes but if they are so important then you have to eat at a soup kitchen for a week or so and then you can purchase an external hdd.
[18:15] <wols> Till19474: agreed. unbackuped data is never important :)
[18:16] <FoolsRun> wols/anyone: know what might be preventing that? .Xauthority and /tmp/X1-lock don't seem to remove when I stop lightdm, which is causing lots of problems including lockups when trying to auto-login.
[18:16] <anon> is there a terminal command to list all installed 'apps' / programs ?
[18:16] <shahriyarguliyev> Till19474: i've 16 Gb flash card but it does not help anyway, I guess i have to buy external storage :/
[18:16] <escott> anon, dpkg
[18:16] <wols> anon: all installed packages. dpkg -l
[18:16] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyev Yes there is no other way if your movies are so important.
[18:16] <wooo> Jordan_U: do you mean that no can login as a root user??
[18:17] <anon> escott, wols, thanks
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> wooo  idd
[18:17] <auronandace> !root | wooo
[18:17] <velcroshooz> hm
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> wooo  that's called 'security'
[18:17] <Till19474> But when I talk about very important data I mean scans of diplomas, text files with passwords etc. That usually fits onto a free dropbox directory.
[18:18] <Till19474> ubottu I guess about half of all root passwords are like '123', so guessing could actually help.
[18:18] <Jordan_U> wooo: You should never run an entire desktop environment as root. It's possible to do, but it's entirely stupid, will break things, and has no benefit. I will not help you do it and I highly recommend that you disable the root account again (as it's disabled in Ubuntu by default).
[18:18] <shahriyarguliyev> I guess i gotta buy external HDD. Which model do you recommend? cheap and safe
[18:18] <wols> shahriyarguliyev: wrong channel
[18:18] <predrag> Hello there! How can I get a permission to add an .png image to /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> wooo  it would turn your pc into a windows machine, nobody wants that
[18:19] <shahriyarguliyev> wols: thanks for informing ;)
[18:19] <Jordan_U> shahriyarguliyev: Try asking in ##hardware.
[18:19] <FoolsRun> shahriyarguliyev: I like the Western Digital MyBooks. You can get 1TB for around $80 these days.
[18:19] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyev it depends on in which part of the world you live.
[18:19] <Jordan_U> Till19474: Ubuntu by default has no root password, so no password will will work.
[18:19] <wols> predrag: with chmod
[18:19] <wols> !permissions > predrag
[18:19] <shahriyarguliyev> FoolsRun: is it available on ebay?
[18:19] <Till19474> Jordan_U but isn't there always a superuser rights account?
[18:19] <madmax2> FoolsRun: You can remove the .lock files and .Xauthority immediately after reboot, perhaps befor networking comes up..? See inet.d.
[18:20] <wols> Till19474: there is, but you cannot log in in ubuntu
[18:20] <NomadicV> Hello! Would anyone be able to direct me to a programming IRC at all? Or one that is more-so dedicated around software development?
[18:20] <Till19474> wols Ah ok, I know what you mean.
[18:20] <FoolsRun> madmax2: but that should be automatic, right? I'm wondering what might be preventing it
[18:20] <bekks> Till19474: There is, with no password set, so you cant login and cant hack that non-set password.
[18:21] <auronandace> NomadicV: there are language specific channels, like #python
[18:21] <Pici> NomadicV: ##programming or as auronandace says.
[18:21] <wols> NomadicV: depends what and where you want to program
[18:22] <wooo> MonkeyDust: i am the root user.....i had done this in other linux os like linux mint and fedora...i want to login as a root user as i dont want system will ask my password everytime...i just want to ask that can i also login as a root user in ubuntu as like in linux mint
[18:22] <shahriyarguliyev> FoolsRun: thanks sir, i'll buy it
[18:22] <madmax2> Sure, it's only an operational fix to allow you to auto login.
[18:22] <beandog> wooo: just set the password then
[18:22] <beandog> wooo: sudo passwd
[18:22] <NomadicV> Thank you for a swift response! I will browse through the channels(?)
[18:22] <auronandace> !noroot | wooo
[18:22] <bekks> wooo: BEcause of the security flaws, the root account has no password set, so you cant login was root.
[18:22] <shahriyarguliyev> who knows shotkey to launch Xterm?
[18:23] <bekks> In EVERY other distribution, this would be more secure, too.
[18:23] <madmax2> shahriyarguliyev: Ctrl+Alt+t
[18:23] <buser3> how to create a keyboard shortcut for terminal? I create it with gui but it does not take effect
[18:23] <raven> which tool shows me midi messages?
[18:24] <bekks> beandog: Setting a root password might result in having an unsupportable system. Thats why it isnt a good idea to encourage people to do so.
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> buser3  it's called gnome-terminal, ctrl-alt t
[18:24] <buser3> raven: miditool
[18:24] <buser3> MonkeyDust: it does not take effect
[18:24] <buser3> when I press ctrl+alt+T nothing shows up
[18:24] <madmax2> FoolsRun: Sure, it's only an operational fix to allow you to auto login.
[18:25] <FoolsRun> madmax2: I could also just not autologin for now :)
[18:25] <legolas> how to move menu bar to the top like unity?
[18:25] <buser3> why I can't right click on my desktop?!
[18:25] <madmax2> FoolsRun: Then you would need to get to the console and do it manually as root (sudo rm)
[18:26] <FoolsRun> madmax2: since it works every second boot I can make the change for the short term
[18:26] <FoolsRun> madmax2: oh, you mean the deleting of the files
[18:26] <trism> legolas: with a gnome-panel? (Gnome Classic session?) If so, if you alt+right click (or alt+super+right click) the panel, and add indicator applet appmenu, the menus will be moved to the panel
[18:27] <madmax2> FoolsRun: Sorry, what window manager do you run..?
[18:27] <buser3> ubuntu is shit! use biebian instead http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
[18:27] <legolas> how to move menu bar to the top like unity in kde?
[18:28] <madmax2> FoolsRun: You mentioned it but it went out of the history buffer. :-(
[18:28] <FoolsRun> madmax2: LightDM with Unity for desktop stuff, but mostly XBMC since this is an HTPC I'm working on
[18:28] <philmeister> Can somebody please try to help me with this wine problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084943/
[18:29] <r_a_f> buser3: ;) nice site
[18:29] <sarsaeol> philmeister: you have 32 bit system and this is 64 bit installer?
[18:29] <bekks> philmeister: The error is pretty clear. Your wine is 32bit, while you are using a 64bit installation.
[18:29] <Till19474> philmeister well what it says is quite clear, isn't it?
[18:29] <madmax2> FoolsRun: Is the lock owned by root? It's probably a already reported bug.
[18:30] <wooo> is there any difference in command su - and su root???
[18:30] <Till19474> woo A user called 'root' does not exist in ubuntu.
[18:30] <beandog> wooo: yah, su - uses the user's login info
[18:30] <beandog> parses ~/.bashrc and all that
[18:30] <FoolsRun> madmax2: I haven't actually checked the lock. .Xauthority seems to be owned by the autologin user, which should be correct
[18:30] <madmax2> wooo: su - gives you the environment that root has, su gives you the access right (id).
[18:30] <philmeister> Well, my ubuntu is 64-bit and im using x86 wine. The reason is because im following a game installation-guide that told me to get x86 wine even though I've got 64 bit ubuntu
[18:30] <beandog> Till19474: and yes, they exist. :B
[18:30] <nronksr> If you wanted to change to a diff. .bashrc, you'd have to use the switch:  su - <username>
[18:31] <beandog> wooo: run 'sudo su -' to switch to root user
[18:31] <Till19474> beandog But you cannot login as user 'root', or am I wrong?
[18:31] <sarsaeol> philmeister: then this instller will not work
[18:31] <beandog> Till19474: You can, once the password is changed
[18:31] <pluesch0r> hi everybody. quick question: the debug output concerning - for example - an external usb disk differs from the information that's displayed when doing a lsusb -v (in my case, udev reports the vendor as being 'WD' whereas lsusb reports 'Western Digital'); any idea how i could interlink the two
[18:31] <beandog> Till19474: it's just scrambled by default
[18:31] <pluesch0r> ?
[18:31] <beandog> Anytime you run sudo you are running something as root
[18:31] <beandog> for example: sudo whoami
[18:31] <philmeister> so if i get the 64-bit wine version it might work?
[18:31] <pluesch0r> err .. the output of udev is not the same as the output of lsusb ..
[18:31] <Till19474> beandog I wanted to create a user 'root' for my system, but it said that this name is not allowed.
[18:32] <sarsaeol> philmeister: emphasis on might
[18:32] <beandog> Till19474: that's cause it already exists
[18:32] <sarsaeol> philmeister: but yeah probably
[18:32] <wooo> beandog: yaa i got this that by sudo su - i can get root access but how its differ from sudo su root command??
[18:32] <FoolsRun> Till19474: best not to create a user with that name anyway, since it's a super easily guessed name
[18:32] <philmeister> hmm, ok thank you
[18:32] <IdleOne> wooo: use sudo -i instead. it sets up the environment properly for Ubuntu and will avoid any possible problems. Please be careful with that command.
[18:32] <beandog> wooo: su - parses login files in ~/
[18:32] <madmax2> wooo: su - gives you the id and environment that root has, su gives you the access right (id).
[18:32] <beandog> wooo: just use "sudo su -"
[18:32] <Till19474> FoolsRun and why is a name that is easy to guess dangerous? I mean there is still the password?
[18:33] <guntbert> wooo: follow what IdleOne said
[18:33] <FoolsRun> Till19474: because if you name it root I have half of the information I need to break into your system
[18:33] <XVampireX> Say people, what is a good app for ubuntu slideshows?
[18:33] <XVampireX> wallpapers
[18:33] <beandog> Oh good grief, knowing the username has nothing to do with it
[18:33] <FoolsRun> Till19474: if you name it something else I have to guess that, too
[18:33] <Till19474> FoolsRun And why half of it?
[18:33] <schultza> how do i disable NetworkManager?
[18:33] <beandog> You still need authentication.
[18:33] <Till19474> FoolsRun Ah ok.
[18:34] <guntbert> beandog: don't give that kind of advice please --  sudo -i   is recommended
[18:34] <beandog> guntbert: dude, they both work.
[18:34] <guntbert> !wfm | beandog
[18:34] <beandog> :B
[18:34] <beandog> whatevs.
[18:34] <beandog> I'm telling him how to get what he wants.
[18:34] <Till19474> FoolsRun So it is not really recommended that you use 'root' as superuser password, right?
[18:35] <beandog> Till19474: oh gosh, don't use a simple password for root user, ever
[18:35] <jrdnn> Till19474: Also don't use "password"
[18:35] <beandog> jrdnn: heh
[18:35] <FoolsRun> Till19474: it's not recommended to use the root account for anything. Use a sudoer instead.
[18:35] <Till19474> Well that was meant to be a joke. I always use passwords generated with pwgen.
[18:35] <beandog> pwgen 12 1
[18:35] <beandog> (for example)
[18:36] <guntbert> !noroot | Till19474
[18:36] <Till19474> guntbert Yes of course.
[18:39] <K1rk> I am looking for a list of "device states" (integer codes) and "reasons" (integer codes) for Network Manager Gnome.  I have Broadcom hardware I'm trying to diagnose and I need to know what "device state 8" "device state 2" and "reason 40" are.
[18:39] <K1rk> Anyone know how I might find that out?
[18:39] <ruml__> \join #unhai
[18:41] <shahriyarguliyev> Is there a shortkey to launc Xterm? (like Ctrl+ALt+T to launch Terminal emulator)
[18:42] <Till19474> K1rk do you have problems setting up a Broadcom WLAN device?
[18:43] <shahriyarguliyev> Is there a shortkey to launc Xterm? (like Ctrl+ALt+T to launch Terminal emulator) or can I set a shortkey, if yes how?
[18:43] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, go System >> Preferences >> Keyboard shortcuts then apply your own
[18:45] <Till19474> shahriyaguliyev Do you use xfce?
[18:45] <philmeister> Has anybody managed to install the game League of Legends on ubuntu 12.04? Seems impossible ...
[18:46] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: it asks Command, what is Command and Name for XTerm ?
[18:46] <wooo> i have changed my password by command sudo passwd (let a) command and another time i set it different by command sudo passwd root (let b).now when i uses command sudo su  root i have to enter a and when i use command su - ihave to enter b...i am totally confused now..what difference between both of it???
[18:46] <suprit> msg nickserv register suprit12  sethi_sprt@rediff.com
[18:47] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, command: xterm
[18:47] <beandog> wooo: sudo uses your user password, su uses the root password.
[18:47] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: Name?
[18:47] <Till19474> philmeister: There are known problems with this game unter winde. Check this out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[18:47] <gr33n7007h> Xterm
[18:47] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, name: Xterm
[18:47] <beandog> wooo: so if you use sudo su, it's going to ask for your user password, and drop you to root
[18:48] <philmeister> Till19474: So basically it's windows, or not playing the game?
[18:49] <K1rk> Till19474, no it's a wired interface.
[18:49] <wooo> beandog : i think there no difference between command sudo su and command su....then why i have to enter different password at different time??
[18:49] <ses1984> hi, i just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 on a machine and it will no longer boot. i get to the grub screen and if i choose the default kernel i get nothing but a blinking cursor.
[18:49] <beandog> wooo: I just told you. :B
[18:49] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: for Terminal, it's Name: "Launch Terminal" and Command: "x-terminal-emulator" by default.
[18:49] <beandog> wooo: SUDO -- user password  SU -- root password
[18:49] <Jordan_U> suprit: I hope you realize that you posted that to the channel.
[18:49] <Till19474> philmeister It is a compatibility problem. Not all windows programmes run under wine, especially games that directally address the hardware.
[18:49] <guntbert> wooo: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo  and disable your root password again, you really don't need it
[18:49] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: isnt that weird name and command xterm for Xterm?
[18:50] <ses1984> if i choose recovery mode, i see kernel messages that stop after less than a second. it says something like "VFS Cannot open root device sda1" and then about ten more lines "kernel panic - not syncing"
[18:50] <Till19474> K1rk And the problem is that it does not connect to the LAN?
[18:50] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, OK
[18:50] <ses1984> "VFS unable to mount root file system on unknown block"
[18:51] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev,  You can name it what You want!
[18:51] <Till19474> ses1984 try to install it again. And be sure that the GRUB is installed correctly.
[18:51] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: but command matters, isnt it
[18:51] <luzido> ses1984: 1st thing i would do: check with the livecd if there is a correct filesystem on /dev/sda1
[18:51] <K1rk> Till19474, not exactly.  I describe my problem in this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12089018
[18:51] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, just make sure the command is xterm or /usr/bin/xterm
[18:52] <delac> is it possible to get notification-properties for notification-daemon anymore?
[18:52] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h:
[18:52] <luzido> ses1984:  fschk /dev/sda1
[18:52] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, ?
[18:52] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: hmm. it didnt work
[18:52] <wooo> beandog: I got the that for using sudo command i have to use user password and for su command i have to use root password...but now i want to know what  i have to use if i use command sudo su(containing both sudo and su..)??
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, have you set the shortcut keys
[18:53] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: how to set it?
[18:53] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: there are two choices, Disabled and New Accelerator
[18:54] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, Go to the shortcut you just created click on the disabled then press ctrl + alt + x or something to that effect
[18:55] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: oh cool mate, i did it
[18:55] <Zally666> Fire for effects
[18:55] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, kk does it work?
[18:55] <escott> wooo, you should use sudo -i not sudo su
[18:56] <ses1984> thanks i will try that
[18:56] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: it really opened and i chose your recommendation ctrl alt x, i'll remember your help each time clicking that shortkey lol xD
[18:56] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, lol
[18:57] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: do you know any irc channel for C++ programmers/
[18:57] <dxdemetriou> how can I change a dconf schema from writable to no writable?
[18:58] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, you could try /join ##c++
[18:58] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: btw what is the default shortkey to switch between languages (keyboard layout)
[18:58] <imanc> where can I find system > preferences in 12.04?  I cna get to the system pane, but i can't find a "preferences" icon, or option
[18:59] <wooo> beandog : ok i tried the command sudo su and i have to enter user password...now i want to know that as you said  su gives you the root access right (id)..then how it is happening that user password is giving me root permission???
[18:59] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, not to sure
[19:00] <shahriyarguliyev> gr33n7007h: i shall google it. thanks for help
[19:00] <xangua> !root | wooo
[19:00] <gr33n7007h> shahriyarguliyev, np
[19:00] <Till19474> imanc at the top right of the screen, where you can also log out, there is a system settings entry. You can also press the windows buton and type in 'settings manager' and you will get it.
[19:01] <wooo> ubottu: i have set the root password by command sudo passwd root...
[19:02] <Katelyn> so uh
[19:02] <Katelyn> does adobe flash lag for anyone else?
[19:02] <alazare619> yea
[19:02] <Katelyn> whenever I pause a video, the audio continues for about half a second
[19:02] <alazare619> not in full screen tho
[19:02] <alazare619> its odd
[19:02] <Katelyn> and when I start it up again, the audio doesn't play for the same length
[19:02] <escott> wooo, sudo changes uid to 0. su is basically a noop at that point. you are already uid 0 there is not su'ing to be done. don't use sudo su. use sudo -i
[19:03] <ses1984> ok, so i'm having trouble booting after upgrading to 12.04, it seems some grub stuff got messed up. previous versions of ubuntu were booting with the root=UUID=foo instead of root=/dev/sda1. apparently my drive is not coming up as /dev/sda1. but if i replace /dev/sda1 with UUID=foo, it still won't boot
[19:03] <Katelyn> I don't think I get the flash issue in mint, either
[19:03] <Katelyn> only seems to be ubuntu
[19:03] <Katelyn> :x
[19:04] <imanc> i'm trying ot configure the fingerprint gui - according to ubuntu's instructions I have a compatible reader on my laptop, and i've followed the ubuntu instructions for installing via ppa, but I don't even see the fingerprint icon in settings. Any ideas?
[19:04] <dxdemetriou> I need to make com.canonical.Unity.Launcher.favorites in 12.04 to readable only (no writable). is this possible?
[19:04] <Jordan_U> ses1984: That sounds like you're missing an intitramfs to go with your kernel image. Can you mount your Ubuntu partition and pastebin the output of "ls /mountpoint/boot/"?
[19:05] <escott> ses1984, i cant remember if the initrd has blkid, but it probably should. if not you can check that the uuid'ed device appears in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:05] <macbook-dual> hiya
[19:05] <ses1984> i will try those give me a sec
[19:06] <macbook-dual> i've got a macbook dual boot with mac os 10.4 plus ubuntu 12.04. recently my ubuntu side crashed while doing a software upgrade. i've tried reinstalling and there are errors deleting the old system and i want to backup my files to an external hd but i can't see all the folders and...
[19:06] <macbook-dual> can't change permissions. any clues?
[19:07] <ses1984> Jordan_U: i have booted into an earlier version of ubuntu and i'm not sure what location you're referring to. is /mountpoint supposed to stand in for some other real path on my system? because i dont see /mountpoint at all
[19:08] <Jordan_U> ses1984: When you say that you booted into an earlier version of Ubuntu, how did you do that? I think you might really mean that you booted from an older kernel from the grub menu. Does that sound right?
[19:08] <ses1984> escott: i'm not sure how to get a shell on initrd i only get as far as grub, or i can get farther with older versions of ubuntu. the uuid i tried to add to my new grub config is definitely there
[19:09] <ses1984> Jordan_U: yes
[19:09] <Jordan_U> ses1984: OK, then please just run "ls /boot/" and pastebin the output.
[19:10] <xskxwraith> uh can someone help me with my kubuntu stuff
[19:11] <bekks> xskxwraith: Please ask a specific question.
[19:11] <xskxwraith> uh....how do i move folders and files,etc into root folder
[19:12] <Jordan_U> xskxwraith: You generally shouldn't move files into the root directory. Why are you trying to do this?
[19:12] <xskxwraith> for a game
[19:12] <wooo> is there something which can't be done by sudo and only can done by root user(or su)???
[19:12] <Jordan_U> wooo: No.
[19:12] <xskxwraith> are you asking me wooo?
[19:12] <dD0T> Two questions on shortcuts in 12.04. Is there a way to make Ctrl+Win+Arrow right/left move windows between monitors when they are already snapped to the edge? Also are there shortcuts to enable/disable secondary monitors (kind of like a beamer mode). Thanks.
[19:12] <Jordan_U> xskxwraith: What game are you trying to install?
[19:13] <ses1984> i just tried to install a command line pastebin and i got a message that my packages were screwed up and to run apt-get install -f. i'm waiting for that to finish os i can paste ls /boot but i think there's a slight chance the apt-get install -f might just fix my problem
[19:13] <CharlieSu> Anyone know if something is up w/ the package repos?  I can't get Apache installed..  https://gist.github.com/6c12363e9514ab2efa80
[19:14] <xskxwraith> no i have the game i'm trying to change part of it but in order to do it is says to sudo cp the stuff but it says there is no such item
[19:14] <wooo> Jordan_U: is that so then what is the difference betwwen root user and normal user...as sudo only needs user password not root password???
[19:14] <Jordan_U> xskxwraith: What is your end goal? I assume that you're following a guide, what guide are you following?
[19:15] <Jordan_U> wooo: Please use only one '?'.
[19:15] <xskxwraith> uh its a gun game assaultcube im trying to change the look of my gun
[19:15] <trism> CharlieSu: please run: apt-get update; first, apache2.2-bin is up to version 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.9 in lucid (it is requesting 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.6)
[19:16] <xskxwraith> and i guess to be more clear the guide i was using said to just copy paste it which it doesnt allow and i read to do basically the same thing you sudo cp it
[19:16] <escott> wooo, its a matter of intention. root can unintentionally destroy his system. a normal user has to intentionally put sudo in front of it and type the password
[19:16] <Jordan_U> wooo: The difference between logging in as root and using sudo is mostly a human one. If you use sudo then you are less likely to run commands which don't need root privileges as root.
[19:17] <Jordan_U> xskxwraith: What guide are you using?
[19:17] <escott> wooo, google around for horror stories about running as root and accidentally "rm -rf /"'ing the system
[19:18] <xskxwraith> uh just a sec
[19:18] <CharlieSu> trism: dohhh..  newbie move on my part
[19:18] <dgiVista> i'm running ubuntu off the install disk so i can back up my ubuntu with a broken system. how do i change permission of my files and directories so i can see them and back them up? do i have to be root or admin or something?
[19:19] <trism> CharlieSu: happens
[19:19] <xskxwraith> http://gtrgroup.forumotion.net/t7-custom-weapon-mods-skins
[19:20] <K1rk> I have some new information.  When this problem occurs, ethtool eth0 reports that "Link detected: no" when in fact there is a cable plugged in, and there's a gigabit connection indicated by the activity LEDs on my switch.
[19:20] <K1rk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12091250
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> (what is it with root, today?) </offtopic>
[19:21] <escott> dgiVista, you usually would be able to see them even without root privileges unless you encrypted your home directory.
[19:21] <CharlieSu> trism: everything i have is automated w/ Chef and I forgot to pull in my apt cookbook
[19:21] <dgiVista> escott, thanks i can "see" directories, but i can't open them all to backup their contents.
[19:21] <wooo> escott: i got u. but I want to know as suppose i am root user of my system and there are so many normal user(as used in our college).so all normal user have their own password so any one can destroy the system by using sudo ???
[19:21] <escott> dgiVista, but you can check that by running "sudo ls /MOUNTPOINT/home/USERNAME" where MOUNTPOINT is where you mounted your ubuntu system
[19:22] <dgiVista> escott, thanks i'll try that.
[19:23] <Jordan_U> wooo: In your college the users created for students aren't part of the "sudo" group and thus can't use sudo.
[19:23] <escott> wooo, only the first user is configured as an "admin(<=11.10)/sudo(12.04+)" user. subsequent users are not members of the "admin/sudo" group. only members of the "admin/sudo" group can sudo
[19:24] <dgiVista> escott, i can't figure out what the mountpoint would be. ugh.
[19:24] <DraINED> hi
[19:24] <escott> dgiVista, type "mount" and it will tell you where all the disks are mounted. its probably something like /media/?????
[19:24] <xskxwraith> jordan    did you look at it
[19:26] <DraINED> anyone uses magickjacl under ubuntu LInux?
[19:26] <guntbert> !anyone | DraINED
[19:27] <DraINED> lol
[19:27] <DraINED> does anyone uses magickjacl under ubuntu LInux?
[19:28] <DraINED> im learning english guntbert im latin sorry
[19:28] <bekks> DraINED: Why?
[19:28] <DraINED> bekks, i need to install one
[19:28] <bekks> DraINED: Then just ask your specific question.
[19:29] <xskxwraith> jordan;  do you have any suggestions
[19:29] <kosko> LOL
[19:29] <DraINED> bekks, hehe dude... i have a magicjack here in my hands and i need to know or the drivers to get this installed
[19:30] <DraINED> in ubuntu
[19:30] <DraINED> yea
[19:31] <zixxy> Hey all. I'm running a fresh install of 12.04 w/ Gnome-Shell and it seems a select few keyboard shortcuts just don't work. My main concern is the shortcut to minimize windows. I set it to Ctrl+Down at first, but it didn't work so I set it back to Ctrl+Alt+0(default). Still no luck. Any ideas?
[19:31] <DraINED> zixxy, try with CTRL+ALT and SUPR do it 3 times
[19:33] <trism> zixxy: perhaps related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/965921 (which has workarounds for setting them in the description)
[19:33] <dgiVista> escott, thanks for your help. i hacked together sudo chmod ugoa+RWX -R * and that seemed to 777 everything. now onto my backup and reinstall.
[19:33] <zixxy> trism, I'll check that out. Thanks
[19:33] <escott> dgiVista, ugggh. would not have suggested that
[19:34] <axisys> how do I run 32bit firefox on 64 bit precise?
[19:34] <dgiVista> escott, is that dangerous?
[19:34] <guntbert> dgiVista: ouch
[19:34] <escott> dgiVista, you don't want to restore from that. the permissions will all be wrong. you'll have to audit the permissions before you restore them
[19:35] <dgiVista> escott, the only things i'm backing up are word docs and pdfs. the rest i'm going to wipe. are there any risks with those kinds of files being 777?
[19:35] <escott> dgiVista, thats fine then
[19:36] <Skippert> hello
[19:36] <escott> dgiVista, in the future though. all you need to do is sudo cp -ar /MOUNTPOINT/home/username /BACKUP/LOCATION
[19:37] <dgiVista> escott, wow. that looks clean.
[19:38] <padmick> hi ive just installed ubuntu (yay!) and im wonderin what should i do first security and anonymity purposes =) thanks
[19:38] <ikonia> padmick: nothing
[19:39] <padmick> really?
[19:39] <ikonia> yes
[19:39] <padmick> that was not what i was looking for
[19:39] <ikonia> what's not ?
[19:40] <padmick> well i thought i have to activate stuff to make it more secure
[19:41] <ikonia> you don't
[19:41] <Jordan_U> padmick: To whom do you want to be anonymous?
[19:41] <padmick> everyone =)
[19:41] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with your OS
[19:42] <padmick> well like should i use tor or jondo?
[19:42] <ikonia> up to you
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ikonia: It could mean that they might want to use TOR or something similar.
[19:42] <ikonia> Jordan_U: sure, who knows
[19:42] <padmick> which is better
[19:42] <ikonia> up to you
[19:42] <ikonia> both will have pros/cons/restrictions
[19:43] <Jordan_U> !best | padmick
[19:43] <padmick> sorry
[19:43] <jenifer> my printscr button not working..
[19:43] <jenifer> what application needed for works this application?
[19:43] <jenifer> i want t enable printscr button for take screenshots in ubuntu 12.04
[19:44] <ikonia> you've said that
[19:44] <padmick> do u know how to use apparmour?
[19:44] <Mech0z> if I want to launch sabnzbdplus with "sudo sabnzbdplus" but I want it to continue after I close that terminal, what do I put after the command?
[19:45] <zipper> hello
[19:45] <ikonia> padmick: yes and no, I rarley use it for home solutions, and few places use ubuntu in an enterprise configuration where I am, however when they do I configure it
[19:45] <OerHeks> Mech0z, sudo sabnvbdplus &
[19:45] <padmick> what is its purpose? anyway
[19:46] <Jordan_U> padmick: Apparmor is on by default, whith what the Ubuntu / package developers consider to be good defaults. I'd just trust them :)
[19:46] <ikonia> padmick: basically limits the way programs can run / interact with each other based on a set of rules you create
[19:46] <OerHeks> Mech0z, but if it is an GUi program, use gksudo
[19:46] <Mech0z> its not
[19:47] <padmick> so really apart from firewall and antivirus and stuff there is not much more i need to do
[19:47] <ikonia> well, you shouldn't need to run anti-virus
[19:47] <ikonia> the firewall base rules are fine
[19:47] <ikonia> and appamros base rules are fine
[19:47] <ikonia> so as I said "nothing" you need to do
[19:48] <padmick> ok just bein cautious =)
[19:48] <zixxy> Thanks again, trism. That work around got it done.
[19:48] <ikonia> padmick: yes, the default ubuntu setup will be fine for pretty much every user unless there are specific needs
[19:49] <trism> zixxy: excellent
[19:49] <OerHeks> padmick there is a wiki to read about it, and you find the answer of ikonia correct > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[19:49] <padmick> ok thanks
[19:57] <wooo> how can i create more user login accounts???
[19:58] <Jordan_U> wooo: Please use only one '?'
[19:59] <wooo> Jordan_U:sorry
[19:59] <wooo> how can i create more user login accounts?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> wooo: I'm not at a machine with GNOME at the moment but if you search for "users" from the unity search bar you should find a control panel for adding and removing users.
[20:02] <Hilikus> hey guys
[20:03] <stiv2k> i legitimately think ubuntu should make the window borders thicker........
[20:03] <Hilikus> i installed ubuntu desktop on a computer with very few memory because i didn't have an ubuntu server disk with me, what can i do to turn it into something more server-like? i want to start by uninstalling all the gnome crap
[20:03] <stiv2k> resizing is hard!
[20:03] <Hilikus> i found some posts saying to do sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop but that doesn't seem to work on 12.04
[20:04] <OerHeks> stiv select window >  ALt + F8 to resize
[20:04] <stiv2k> OerHeks wtf
[20:04] <h00k> Hilikus: you could install from the minimal CD, that may save you lots of work
[20:05] <stiv2k> OerHeks that seems to only grab it from the top
[20:05] <ceege> you can change grub to only boot to text mode
[20:05] <Hilikus> no, no otjher option. i only had the ubuntu desktop disk
[20:05] <Hilikus> its done anyway, any idea how to remove all gnome?
[20:05] <stiv2k> why must people have to show me 6 different alternate ways of resizing? why can you just make the window border a little thicker so i can resize the normal way? the way every other OS in the world is?
[20:05] <OerHeks> stiv2k, yes, or sideways. alt + left-mouse grabs the window
[20:06] <zixxy> stiv2k, well I would assume because they're trying to help you and most likely have no part of the development of Ubuntu...
[20:06] <ceege> Hilikus - you should be able to apt-get purge xorg and gdm
[20:07] <Jordan_U> stiv2k: Ranting here isn't helpfull, and is offtopic. If you have a support question, please ask it, if you want Ubuntu's default configuration to be changed then file a bug report (or as one likely already exists, mark your self as "affected by" it so that it gets more "heat" in launchpad and thus possibly a higher priority).
[20:07] <Hilikus> ceege Package gdm is not installed, so not removed
[20:07] <ceege> how about xorg?
[20:07] <stiv2k> Jordan_U just saying, why would anyone make it that way
[20:07] <stiv2k> its very unintuitive
[20:07] <stiv2k> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy
[20:07] <ceege> or just leave x installed and tell grub to boot to text only mode
[20:07] <Dailycomputing> can you guys help me with ubuntu?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> stiv2k: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions only, not for "just saying" things.
[20:08] <stiv2k> Jordan_U i'm glad to know ubuntu values my feedback
[20:08] <OerHeks> stiv2k, it is easy, a smart help appears when you hold windowskey
[20:08] <Hilikus> ceege: that only uninstalls xorg, not all the gnome applications
[20:08] <primefalcon> stiv2k, it does but this is a help channel for tech help
[20:08] <Jordan_U> stiv2k: This is the wrong venue for feedback. I've already told you the proper venue for feedback.
[20:08] <zixxy> !ask | Dailycomputing
[20:08] <Hilikus> ceege: how do i boot into text mode by default?
[20:09] <stiv2k> Jordan_U ok
[20:09] <Bert1> is anyone here familiar with the display manager in 12.04?  I have a Dell lcd external monitor connected to the video port of a Dell 15R laptop.  When i try to use the display tool, to set to either mirror on both monitors, or to display only on the dell external monitor, the manager hangs, and the display freezes, requiring a reboot
[20:09] <Dailycomputing> Hi im booting to ubuntu and it ask for a passward i dont have one and i dont know it  i have ubuntu on all my pcs and never had this problem
[20:09] <Bert1> any ideas how to fix or should i report as a but
[20:09] <stiv2k> another issue is how come gnome crashes when i try anything other than gneome classic (no effects) ?
[20:09] <ceege> Hilikus - change /etc/default/grub - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash text” then run update-grub
[20:10] <arian--> Can i install gnome shell ,unity ,kde, on my ubuntu with out error?
[20:10] <Dailycomputing> ubottu, thanks
[20:10] <Dailycomputing> ubottu, cool
[20:10] <elisa87> Does anyone know how to use find command recursively
[20:10] <arthurr> hi every1, I have problem with my two monitors and ubuntu 12.04, everytime I start I have to change my default monitor
[20:10] <beandog> elisa87: it does recursive by default
[20:10] <Jordan_U> elisa87: find is recursive by default.
[20:10] <Dailycomputing> lol i need one of these on my server
[20:10] <Bert1> find . -print {starting folder}
[20:10] <arthurr> how can I set it once, so it knows which monitor is default?
[20:11] <stiv2k> arthurr are you using nvidia
[20:11] <arthurr> ati
[20:11] <stiv2k> arthurr i have a similar issue with nvidia
[20:11] <arian-->  Can i install gnome shell ,unity ,kde, on my ubuntu with out error?
[20:12] <Dailycomputing> who set up ubottu ?
[20:12] <Anxi80> My laptop processor is very noisy when running ubuntu. Not the fans but the processor and/or chipset
[20:13] <jamygolden> @arian yeah I've done that before
[20:13] <Anxi80> its a hi-pitch sound
[20:13] <rocks3> ok in oneiric ocelot, it happens that in flash games there are sometimes flickering white boxes which appear for a split second and then go away. this doesn't happen in other distros. what should i do?
[20:13] <guntbert> !ot | Dailycomputing
[20:13] <stiv2k> Anxi80 processors don't usually make sounds
[20:13] <arian--> ??
[20:13] <luftikuss>  Anxi80 I don't believe you.
[20:13] <Anxi80> I remember reading about it for core duo/ core 2 duo mobile chips
[20:13] <scott_z> Question: If I wanted to develop a program in Windows I would use Microsoft Visual Studio. Is there/What is the ubuntu equivalent?
[20:14] <Dailycomputing> thanks
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> arian--  sure, you can then switch in lightDM
[20:14] <arthurr> I use 'xrandr --output DFP3 --primary' in my init.d script but it don't start at poweron
[20:14] <guntbert> !ide | scott_z
[20:14] <arthurr> so I have to hit it manualy
[20:14] <Bert1> Scottz - there are several integrated development environments
[20:15] <Bert1> I believe my son uses exlipse for school programming
[20:15] <Anxi80> its often referred to as "processor whine"
[20:15] <ceege> scott_z I'm not a programmer, but eclipse is used alot in linux to do most languages
[20:15] <delac> on classic, how to fix the panel launcher animations?
[20:16] <arian--> ??
[20:16] <arian--> ??
[20:16] <arian--> ??
[20:16] <FloodBot1> arian--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <stiv2k> what is the difference between the three sessiosn: gnome, gnome classic, gnome classic (no effects)?  The only one that doesn't crash for me is the 'no effects' one
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> delac  try gconf-editor, apps, metacity, reduced sources (on/off)
[20:17] <arian--> and i have not error in settings?
[20:17] <scott_z> Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into them all. I am looking for a VB equivalent that is object oriented.
[20:17] <uni4dfx> Could someone please explain to me why I cannot change any print settings when printing to network printers? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/121855/gnome-printing.png
[20:17] <bwalker898> oes anyone have any good instructions for setting up apache in redhat?
[20:19] <trism> stiv2k: gnome is gnome-shell, gnome classic is gnome-panel with compiz, gnome classic (no effects) is gnome-panel with metacity
[20:20] <Pici> bwalker898: This is #ubuntu, we don't do redhat here.
[20:20] <genii-around> bwalker898: You may find help in #httpd , if not then I would suggest some RH support
[20:20] <stiv2k> trism how come the first two crash upon loading for me? i use the binary nvidia driver so i should have 3d working
[20:20] <delac> MonkeyDust: I'm not using metacity but compiz. I think the panel itself has some sort of animation that collides with compiz animations. Don't know how to disable either of them.
[20:21] <trism> stiv2k: yes, it should work with the proprietary nvidia module, so I don't know, sorry
[20:21] <rocks3> ok in oneiric ocelot, it happens that in flash games there are sometimes flickering white boxes which appear for a split second and then go away. this doesn't happen in other distros. what should i do?
[20:22] <drag0nius> how to make NIC work in gigabit mode?
[20:23] <epinky> ethtool ?
[20:26] <Foolish> Hi!  I was hoping I could get some help with a problem I'm having.  I was running 12.04 and my machine crashed.  fsck ran on startup, but it seemed like it was stuck so I ignored the error, figuring I could fix it later.  The root file system was mounted read only and I...ran fsck manually.  Now that drive won't boot the system at all.  I can still mount it and am in the process of getting my /home (and /etc?) files off before I do a
[20:26] <Foolish> I'd like to preserve the packages I've already installed instead of trying to remember everything, so I want to pull a list of manually installed packages off the drive somehow.  All of the stuff I found searching the web telling me how to do this seems to assume I can boot the system.
[20:26] <drag0nius> im getting bad command line argument(s) with "ethtool -s eth1 speed 1000 full"
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Foolish  type !clone
[20:26] <Foolish> !clone
[20:27] <whateverman> hello
[20:27] <whateverman> :)
[20:27] <whateverman> wow..flashback to age 14
[20:27] <guntbert> whateverman: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:27] <ceege> you can run dpkg --get-selections for the list
[20:27] <whateverman> actually..I do
[20:27] <ceege> then run dpkg --set-selections to duplicate the system
[20:28] <TheM4ch1n3> whateverman: well don't keep us in suspense
[20:28] <whateverman> :)
[20:28] <whateverman> well..it's the most common question ever
[20:28] <whateverman> what should I install - 32 or 64 bit?
[20:28] <Slart> Hello, I'm looking for a way to mark packets going from internet to a specific ip (nat'ed) using iptables.. where should I put this rule? I was thinking it should go into mangle,  postrouting but it's not working. Hints?
[20:28] <whateverman> I'm asking because I've read the documentation
[20:28] <vrdf> Hi there. Is it possible to use freemind with java7 instead of 6 on 12.04?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> whateverman  if your hardware supports 64bit, you can use that
[20:28] <guntbert> !enter | whateverman
[20:29] <TheM4ch1n3> whateverman: well, I use 32bit just fine, but if you wish to run 64bit stuff, or use >4gb of memory it would be a good idea to use the 64bit version
[20:29] <whateverman> sorry
[20:29] <whateverman> Th
[20:29] <wolter> why do only certain locales appear in the Language Support settings configuration window?
[20:30] <whateverman> TheM4ch1n3: well the reason I'm asking is because one doc says that any system that has 64-bit architecture should install 64-bit, but another doc says that if you have less than 4GB you should run the 32 bit
[20:31] <Foolish> Thank you to the people who offered suggestions for my problem, and maybe it's me who's not understadning something, but I can't boot the system.  Won't any dpkg, apptitude, or any other command only get information for the system that's running?  How do I get information from a mounted drive?
[20:31] <bekks> whateverman: I am installing 64bit on 64bit capable machines, no matter how much/less RAM they have.
[20:31] <ceege> run a live CD and  chroot yourself into the drive
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> Foolish  do you have more than one pc in the same network?
[20:31] <Slart> whateverman: 64-bit hardware can run both 64 and 32 bit.. 32 bit is historically more common and even today there are some things that are not available in 64bit (some online banking software and such)
[20:32] <whateverman> ok I have a confession
[20:32] <Foolish> Yeah.  I've got several, and in fact I'm running right now on the same machine, just booting from a different hard drive.  chroot seems to be the answer, and I didn't think of that.  Thank you ceege.
[20:32] <whateverman> :P I did install 64-bit version but I'm suffering from a lag and overall sluggishness
[20:33] <Slart> whateverman: 64bit gives you some advantages though.. the most prominent one is that you can use more than 4 GB of memory.. other than that it's more about personal taste..
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> Foolish  ssh to the not-working pc and continue from there, copy package selections etc
[20:33] <vrdf> 64bits is more than just extended addresses for x86, it is overall better, just some extra caching pressure and more memory specially on many multilib
[20:33] <Slart> whateverman: I doubt that is because you're running 64 bit.. but who knows.. computers are weird =)
[20:34] <whateverman> i hate to say it but I've tried it all
[20:34] <vrdf> unfortunately there is no x32 ubuntu version I am aware of yet
[20:34] <Slart> whateverman: why not try a 32 bit live cd.. see if that behaves better. It might save you a lot of trial-and-error
[20:35] <whateverman> I did try the live cd but it doesn't has the "feel" like the installed version
[20:35] <bekks> vrdf: So you think i386 is 16bit?
[20:36] <Slart> whateverman: but compare 32 bit live to the 64 bit live.. does the 64 bit version have the lag and whatnot? if they are the same it's probably something else that is making your system behave badly
[20:36] <whateverman> I tried lots of versions of linux....fedora, ubuntu, mint, pinguy, etc, and all of them are quite sluggish
[20:36] <wolter> why do only certain locales appear in the Language Support settings configuration window?
[20:36] <dezertir> there are people of America who do not mind to talk with a Russian man? Those who have a desire to please write in private. thank you
[20:36] <whateverman> I managed to install Gnome-shell and it's ok but not perfect
[20:36] <Slart> wolter: I'm not entirely sure but I think locales might have to be generated before you can use them.. (or installed)
[20:37] <stiv2k> something is definitely wrong with my ubuntu... it never remembers my monitor settings and none of the 3d functions work even though i am using the binary nvidia driver
[20:37] <whateverman> all of them are not like Windows...and darn it, I have no one to ask but you guys :
[20:37] <wolter> Slart, yeah I generated a custom one with dpkg-reconfigure but still no luck :/
[20:37] <wolter> the locale command does say I have applied it correctly though
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> whateverman  what's keeping you from creating your own distro, if you like none of them?
[20:37] <Slart> wolter: you've logged in/out after generating the locale?
[20:37] <vrdf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI
[20:38] <whateverman> MonkeyDust: knowledge, time and money
[20:38] <stripe> hi all Xubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, just installed nvidia-current fron synaptic (gts450 card) screen still tearing and have lost sound since the driver install (was working) any ideas? thanks
[20:38] <TheM4ch1n3> whateverman: can I privmsg you ?
[20:38] <bekks> vrdf: Thats an x86-64 ABI with 32bit pointers.
[20:38] <wolter> Slart, not yet but I am going to test it soon, just finishing an install
[20:38] <whateverman> of course you can buddy
[20:38] <Slart> whateverman: you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages.. you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)
[20:39] <whateverman> good one slart
[20:39] <whateverman> I guess that's the rough reality, huh
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Slart  a classic, i'm putting that line on my portal :)
[20:40] <stripe> Slart,  well put mate :)
[20:40] <Slart> whateverman: if anyone tells you linux is perfect they are probably trying to sell you something.. but imho linux/ubuntu is usually fixable.. even if it takes time and effort
[20:41] <Slart> thank you all. I'll be here all night.. tip your waitresses =)
[20:45] <epinky> !rocks
[20:46] <Pici> !msgthebot | epinky
[20:46] <delac> can anyone tell me what compiz animation is used on (classic) panel launcher?
[20:46] <epinky> thanks Pici, not wanting to enter ubottu.com
[20:48] <saulotoledo> \/etc\/fstab is mapping user to uid 0 with smbfs. What is wrong? The user is forced at samba and his name is "arquivos". At log I see "connect to service Web initially as user arquivos (uid=0, gid=1003) (pid 11544)". Windows machines accept the correct UID.
[20:50] <Foxboron_> so, asking for a friend here. He currently having some errors. So he got a SSD with Linux and USB with Linux. If he boots SSD it will come an BIOS error message. If he boots from USB it will boot from the SSD. Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong?
[20:51] <bekks> Foxboron_: boot drive order in BIOS, boot drive mapping in grub.
[20:51] <genii-around> Foxboron_: Possibly he installed grub to the usb
[20:52] <stiv2k> hmm
[20:52] <stiv2k> when i drag windows around it lags
[20:52] <Foxboron_> Just forwarding it to him. Sitting on skype. So i will see his respone ^^
[20:52] <stiv2k> what setting do i disable for the effects
[20:52] <Foxboron_> also thanks genii-around and bekks for the fast response :)
[20:56] <k1l> !rootirc | Guest95728
[20:59] <spaceneedle> Am I the only one who notices that the words on the panel frequently get all jumbled together. Makes it difficult to copy and paste .
[21:00] <unkn-error> which is the command to install all the good stuff for development in ubuntu (like yum groups)
[21:01] <unkn-error> there is some meta-package that includes gcc, binutils and otherkernel stuff
[21:01] <ceege> build-essential has alot of that if not all
[21:01] <unkn-error> ceege: TXH! that was it!
[21:01] <unkn-error> :)
[21:02] <schultza> what is the package name for cheops?
[21:03] <ceege> doesn't seem to be part of the standard sources - apt-cache search cheops shows nothing
[21:03] <schultza> it was in hardy
[21:04] <schultza> hardy universe
[21:04] <auronandace> !find cheops | schultza
[21:04] <ronrom> how can i see to what package a file bleongs?
[21:07] <trism> ronrom: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[21:07] <trism> ronrom: for installed packages, for ones not yet installed you'll need something like apt-file
[21:09] <ronrom> trism: how can i see an install verbosed?
[21:09] <trism> ronrom: I don't understand what you are asking for
[21:11] <auronandace> increased information during the installation of a package?
[21:12] <ronrom> trism: apt-get install    install a package, but i want a verbose output of the isntall
[21:12] <ronrom> trism: i want to see what scripts run, etc
[21:12] <ceege> you must be able to read really fast
[21:12] <bekks> Like Cmdr. Data.
[21:13] <auronandace> bekks: i prefer kryten :)
[21:17] <brett__> I have an ubuntu server that slowly becomes unresponsive over time until a reboot. When I ssh in, it is especially bad when I CD to a new directory then 'ls' to view files, it takes minutes to come up. Any ideas as to what could be wrong?
[21:17] <ronrom> no one knows?
[21:17] <auronandace> ronrom: manpages to the rescue!
[21:18] <trism> ronrom: you can use something like: sudo apt-get -o DPkg::Options::='-D2' install package_name; which will give more detail about the maintainer scripts run (see man dpkg for all the -D debugging options)
[21:19] <trism> ronrom: I don't really know of any other way of doing it, or how useful it will be
[21:19] <silverghost> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8722 check out people my awesome desktop linux rocks :]
[21:19] <ronrom> trism: ok lt me check
[21:22] <bootstrap> I've been away for a while, setting up new machines, 32 or 64 bit.  Major concern: how is flash with 64bit now?  It was a mess a few years ago.
[21:22] <thecarlhall> in unity is it possible to have the non-primary display not use workspaces like in gnome-shell?
[21:22] <stripe> hi all looking for a ubuntu distro that will work with an nvidia card (gts450) any ideas? thanks
[21:22] <thecarlhall> bootstrap, I've been using flash on amd64 for a while with great success
[21:22] <thecarlhall> bootstrap, WAY better than years past
[21:22] <bootstrap> thecarlhall, thanks! glad to hear it.
[21:23] <thecarlhall> stripe, as long as the nvidia linux driver supports it, it should work in *buntu
[21:25] <stripe> thecarlhall: when I try the nvidia current driver, the screen still tears and the sound disappears, guess it must not be supported, thanks mate
[21:25] <brett__> Would someone mind looking at this pastebin of my /var/log/syslog, could this be my problem? Server running insanely slow, but not sure what this message means.
[21:25] <brett__> ^^http://pastebin.com/UaQXFyis
[21:26] <eph3meral> how can I force google chrome to refresh a JS file?
[21:26] <eph3meral> when I navigate to the JS file in the browser, I get the new version, but when I refresh the page and then go to the developer tools console and check the script sources, it's not refreshed
[21:26] <bekks> brett__: You have a severe hardware problem with your /dev/sda disk which is about to die.
[21:26] <eph3meral> it works fine if i hold down CTRL-SHIFT-r for a few seconds, but that's kind of annoying
[21:26] <eph3meral> and i'm not even sure why that works
[21:27] <hilarie> I have a silly question... so I have an internet connection, modem, directly connected to my home server, which then connects to my wifi router (netgear n600) is there a way to make it so my server doesn't look at all traffic as though it was coming directly from the router, but from the devices connected to it?
[21:27] <brett__> bekks: ok, that's what i was fearing may be the case. thanks
[21:27] <eph3meral> hilarie, yes it's called VPN
[21:27] <thecarlhall> stripe, if it's any consolation, I'm using ubuntu with a GeForce 8400 GS
[21:27] <eph3meral> hilarie, another option is setting up an SSH tunnel
[21:27] <eph3meral> hilarie, those are your two basic choices for this
[21:28] <eph3meral> i'm on a GeForce 8600 GT
[21:28] <hilarie> So there is no way for it without setup on each computer?
[21:28] <eph3meral> not too far away, it's been just fine for me
[21:28] <eph3meral> hilarie, no
[21:28] <eph3meral> hilarie, each computer will require setup, that is correct
[21:28] <hilarie> I would have to go buy a switch for that right?
[21:28] <eph3meral> uhh... no?
[21:28] <Some_Person> Do the standard Ubuntu Server discs include a live environment?
[21:29] <k1l> Some_Person: no
[21:29] <eph3meral> don't think you need a switch, just make sure to open up your wireless router to let the connections come in for the VPN or SSH server
[21:29] <k1l> Some_Person: use the desktop cd fo a live enviroment
[21:29] <hilarie> eph3meral, I was just hoping to be able to do it in a straightforward way, I have both ubuntu and windows computers at home
[21:29] <eph3meral> hilarie, that process is called "port forwarding" also sometimes known as "opening a port" - though if you learn about firewall rules the pedantic ones will tell you there's no such thing :P
[21:30] <eph3meral> but those are the common names for the process
[21:30] <hilarie> eph3meral, I get all of that, but every piece of traffic that the server sees is coming from the router, its doesn't see that, Its a  2nd 'nat'?
[21:31] <eph3meral> hilarie, sorry I don't quite follow, and I've gtg keep working, good luck
[21:31] <sleax> hi to all, i've a problem with openssh, in server-side i implemented the "authorized_keys" method and it works. So i tried to add the directive "from="192.168.1.101" (client ip address)  at the start of "~/.ssh/authorized_keys" and it doesn't work.However if i change it to "192.168.*"it works. why?
[21:31] <eph3meral> hilarie, if you explain a little more generally (like I'm an alien) what you want, i might be able to suggest some things
[21:31] <eph3meral> like, the real world, "I want my game to connect from the computer to that one so me and a friend can play"
[21:31] <eph3meral> like, what are you actually doing?
[21:32] <stripe> thecarlhall, according to the nvidia site the gts450 is supported, but I dont understand why it wont work with ubuntu, I give up.
[21:32] <thecarlhall> stripe, do you get any clues from dmesg?
[21:32] <hilarie> setting up squid3 as a proxycache, and to be able to control access, but the server only sees things as coming from one source, so its all or nothing, I can have the internet on, or off, but can't kick the kids off at night and leave it on for me
[21:33] <wawowe> sleax: if you want to use authorized keys generate one from the client machine and add it to the server
[21:33] <hilarie> Direct link from server to wifi router, and the server thinks the wifi router is the only ip address it ever gets requests from
[21:33] <wawowe> sleax: don't use ips
[21:35] <sleax> yes, i done this. I generated a pair key, the private is stored on client, the public is authorized in "authorized_keys" and it works. When i tried the option for apply any restriction, such as "from="IP" with from="192.168.1.101" (ip client) it doesn't work, with from="192.168.*" yes.
[21:35] <josedelaguia_> Soy nuevo alguien me puede enviar a un canal para consultar dudas en español??
[21:35] <wawowe> hilarie: most routers have a way to assign ip's to a mac address and block traffic based on times
[21:36] <hilarie> wawowe, the problem is the router is acting as a nat, I think I figured it out
[21:36] <wawowe> hilarie: if it's a linux router you setup you can do the same thing with cron and iptables
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> !es | josedelaguia_
[21:37] <wawowe> sleax: why do you need it to only allow from a certain ip when you have a key?
[21:38] <sleax> because if the key is stolen, anyone who have the private key can access from anywhere
[21:38] <ceege> you can use /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[21:38] <wawowe> sleax: the key can't be stolen unless someone mananges to brute there way in
[21:39] <wawowe> sleax: and in that case it wouldn't matter
[21:39] <wawowe> sleax: vs if someone on your local network wanted in all they'd have to do is set their ip
[21:39] <stripe> thecarlhall, had a look at dmesg, but it is all gibberish to me, I think I nedd a linux for idiots irc channel, thanks again for your time but I think I will have to find a idiot friendly distro
[21:39] <beandog> stripe: what are you trying to do?
[21:40] <sleax> from the man page "The purpose of this option is to optionally increase security: public key authentication by itself does not trust the network or name servers or anything (but the key); however, if somebody somehow steals the key, the key permits an intruder to log in from anywhere in the world.  This additional option makes using a stolen key more difficult (name servers and/or routers would have to be compromised in ad
[21:40] <sleax> dition to just the key)."
[21:40] <wawowe> sleax: if you need it to only allow ssh traffic from a certain ip, use iptables
[21:40] <beandog> sleax: you still need the passphrase.  Just having the key doesn't do anything
[21:41] <stripe> beandog,  work out why the nvidia-current driver doesnt work with my card and kills the sound as well
[21:41] <wawowe> sleax: right, now give a for instance of how someone would steal the key
[21:41] <beandog> stripe: oh.  that sucks. :(
[21:41] <wawowe> beandog: if the server is allowing passwordless logins, then only the key is needed
[21:41] <sleax> but if the option is implemented, it should work. I was only reading the manual for testing.
[21:42] <beandog> wawowe: well, yah, if the passphrase is empty
[21:42] <BluesKaj> stripe, have you installed restricted drivers , I have to ask , maybe the post install driver will work better
[21:42] <sleax> wawowe: i just wanted to say what i mistaked in trying option,nothing else
[21:43] <wawowe> beandog: you can allow a passwordless login in ~/.ssh by adding a key. even if they have a password set, it won't ask for it in that case
[21:43] <LLStarks> j #verizons3
[21:43] <beandog> wawowe: you mean the public key?
[21:43] <stripe> BluesKaj,  the post instaqll driver nouveau I beleve is unusable with the ammount of screen tearing
[21:43] <wawowe> sleax: i've never used that option, but like i said you can use iptables to do what you're trying to
[21:43] <beandog> sleax: what are trying to do, exactly?  I came in halfway through
[21:44] <wawowe> beandog: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
[21:44] <beandog> wawowe: what does that have to do with anything?  If youre using public key authentication, you need the private key, plus the public key in authorized_hosts
[21:45] <beandog> wawowe: maybe I'm not understanding you though -_-  What would you do with the file in /etc?
[21:45] <sleax> wawowe: my authorized_keys file looks like this:     from="192.168.1.101" ssh-rsa //RSA_ENCRYPTED.pub// //any_comment//
[21:45] <wawowe> beandog: if you have the public key in authorized_hosts, of each machine in each home directory then it won't ask for a password
[21:45] <sleax> wawowe: so, it doesn't work. with from="192.168.*" yes
[21:45] <beandog> wawowe: *IF* it's without a passphrase
[21:46] <beandog> then yes
[21:46] <beandog> I'm talking about private key password, not user password
[21:46] <BluesKaj> stripe, nouveau is listed as the post install driver ?
[21:46] <sleax> wawowe: why if i'm trying with a client ip address who is 192.168.1.101?
[21:47] <stripe> BluesKaj,  I think thats the opensource one thats used with nvidia cards
[21:47] <beandog> When you do ssh-keygen, that's the passphrase you setup.  You need that to unlock your private key, then have the pub key setup on the remote host to even get in
[21:47] <beandog> two-factor authentication
[21:47] <wawowe> sleax: i don't know, but again you can use iptables to restrict traffic over port 22 to 192.168.1.101
[21:48] <wawowe> beandog: usually the private key is random
[21:48] <sleax> ok, thanks anyway! :-) but i left with the doubt
[21:48] <boshco> Hello i have a trouble with ubuntu 10.10 and my graphic card Nvidia Geforce 6200 PCI
[21:49] <wawowe> beandog: i mean there's no passphrase
[21:49] <BluesKaj> stripe, yes nouveau is default at first install until the the recommended additional driver is installed
[21:49] <Pecker> boshco: what is going on exactly
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> boshco  it's because 10.10 is EOL, no longer valid or supported
[21:49] <beandog> wawowe: well, yah, if you're running cron jobs or something.  But the normal process is to put a passphrase.
[21:49] <beandog> I mean, it asks for one right there.
[21:49] <boshco> what is E0L? im begginer
[21:49] <beandog> end of life
[21:49] <Pecker> end of life
[21:49] <beandog> no longer supported
[21:50] <wawowe> asks you to input random keystrokes until it's satisfied it has enough to generate a secure key
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> boshco  your ubuntu version is too old
[21:50] <beandog> wawowe: oh THAT.  That's for entropy.  That's not related to creating a passphrase.
[21:50] <boshco> yes but my PC is old
[21:50] <wawowe> entropy?
[21:50] <stripe> BluesKaj,  going to try a fresh install, just in case it didnt install correctly(the cd md5 sum was ok though)
[21:50] <beandog> wawowe: see I knew we were off somewhere. :)
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> boshco  my pc too, but it has 12.04
[21:50] <boshco> and i use ubuntu tweak for update
[21:51] <beandog> wawowe: it helps the computer to generate enough randomness so it can create a key
[21:51] <beandog> wawowe: that doesn't have anything to do with how you actually use the key though
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> !es| boshco
[21:51] <beandog> it's just the software generating a key
[21:51] <boshco> thank you
[21:52] <beandog> boshco: exito
[21:52] <ceege> you don't have to run an old version of ubuntu on an old PC. you just need to run a less graphic-instense desktop - like LXDE
[21:53] <boshco> see you
[21:53] <BluesKaj> stripe, nouveau has a lot of fans , it works well on some setups and I couldn't really tell much difference between it and the nvidia-current
[21:57] <drigollier> good night
[22:01] <beandog> does anybody know if freenode has any c++ channels
[22:02] <OerHeks> beandog, sure ##c++ ##c++-basic and more
[22:03] <beandog> OerHeks: awesome thx
[22:03] <dklsllsl> hi
[22:04] <dklsllsl> fial2ban came up with this list of ips banned any ideas
[22:04] <dklsllsl> LSI        all  --  0.0.0.0/8                 LSI        all  --  10.0.0.0/8               LSI        all  --  127.0.0.0/8                LSI        all  --  link-local/16           LSI        all  --  172.16.0.0/12             LSI        all  --  192.0.0.0/24              LSI        all  --  192.0.2.0/24              LSI        all  --  192.168.0.0/16           LSI        all  --  198.18.0.0/15           LSI        all  --  198.51
[22:04] <ceege> do you have monitoring agents running? like nagios munin etc?
[22:05] <dklsllsl> i used iptables -L command
[22:05] <dklsllsl> in terminal
[22:05] <dklsllsl> fail2ban produced this list i dont know much about computers but am assuming these are the naughty ips
[22:06] <i7c> dklsllsl: these are all local ips if i see this right.
[22:06] <dklsllsl> oh
[22:06] <i7c> dklsllsl: meaning from your local network at home
[22:06] <ceege> are you on a LAN with lots of other people? like a school network?
[22:06] <dklsllsl> ah
[22:06] <dklsllsl> i play open arena
[22:06] <dklsllsl> umm
[22:06] <flonk> Hi! I hope i don't offend anyone, but i could really need some help fixing my SSH problem. I made a thread at stackoverflow, here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11421840/ssh-not-working-connection-refused
[22:07] <dklsllsl> have i given anything i  shouldnt away
[22:07] <i7c> flonk: why are you afraid to offend anyone. don't worry, this channel is for help ;)
[22:07] <dklsllsl> no im not on an area networl
[22:07] <flonk> i7c: cheers :)
[22:07] <dklsllsl> its a post office dsl thing
[22:07] <dklsllsl> adsl
[22:08] <dklsllsl> using phone line and thats it wired up not wireless
[22:08] <i7c> flonk: obvously (according to your netstat output) ssh only listens to ipv6 ?
[22:08] <ceege> dklslss- those IPs are local only, so you don't have to worry about them unless you suspect people doing bad things on your LAN
[22:08] <dklsllsl> ok thanks
[22:08] <dklsllsl> how do you know that
[22:08] <dklsllsl> would love to know myself
[22:08] <flonk> How do i fix it? I tried editing the sshd_conf file
[22:09] <dklsllsl> ho hum thanks again
[22:09] <ceege> google non routeable IPs
[22:09] <flonk> Adding ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
[22:09] <flonk> And removing the ListenAddress :: part which i assume is ipv6
[22:10] <beandog> flonk: pastebin ssh -v
[22:10] <i7c> flonk: actually you can remove all the "listenaddress" lines from sshd_config.
[22:10] <beandog> er, ssh -v <connection stuff>
[22:11] <i7c> flonk: and also: you need to restart the service after changing settings
[22:11] <flonk> http://pastebin.com/i3qLeaq9
[22:11] <flonk> actually
[22:11] <flonk> when i go: sudo service ssh start
[22:11] <flonk> it says it stats
[22:11] <flonk> starts
[22:11] <flonk> But how do i confirm that?
[22:11] <beandog> flonk: pidof sshd
[22:11] <beandog> er
[22:11] <beandog> yah
[22:12] <beandog> if it's non-blank, it's running
[22:12] <flonk> great
[22:12] <i7c> flonk: is that pc in the same network like your computer?
[22:13] <flonk> Yeah
[22:13] <flonk> Long story short, it's my home server, has been working fine for a year. I took it down to add a few extra disks to it, everything works but ssh
[22:13] <flonk> It responds to ping, apache is up, samba works
[22:13] <flonk> everything but ssh
[22:14] <flonk> The ports are forwarded correctly, there is no DCHP stuff going on, it has its own address and there are no conflicts etc
[22:14] <i7c> flonk: on your server:  sudo iptables -L   output?
[22:15] <flonk> There's nothing in there
[22:15] <flonk> three categories with nothing in them
[22:15] <i7c> flonk: and policies set to accept then, i guess. ok
[22:16] <i7c> flonk: well purge and reinstall sshd
[22:16] <flonk> Tried that
[22:16] <beandog> flonk: do you mind doing a pastebin of your sshd config
[22:16] <flonk> Three times
[22:16] <ceege> hosts.allow/deny?
[22:16] <beandog> ceege: oh, good call
[22:16] <beandog> he might have locked himself out
[22:16] <flonk> Is there an easy way to do that? I have it hooked up to my telly with an old keyboard.
[22:16] <beandog> flonk: pastebin /etc/hosts.deny
[22:16] <beandog> flonk: nopaste <file>
[22:16] <beandog> flonk: cat foo | nopaste
[22:16] <beandog> etc, etc.
[22:17] <flonk> I only have command line on the server and i'm not great at it tbh :D
[22:17] <beandog> flonk: make it easy on yourself.  Look at /etc/hosts.deny and see if anything is in there
[22:17] <beandog> don't need to paste anything, just check that
[22:17] <flonk> Everything in there is commented out
[22:17] <beandog> Okay
[22:17] <LLStarks> what's the proper way to build wine in ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:17] <beandog> Hmm
[22:17] <flonk> i assume, all lines starts with #
[22:17] <beandog> Something fishy.
[22:17] <Jordan_U> flonk: As a test can you try booting from a LiveCD/USB and inatalling openssh-server and check if that works?
[22:18] <jthan> LLStarks: Use the software center
[22:18] <beandog> flonk: and you can ping that IP address?
[22:18] <flonk> Yes
[22:18] <beandog> it looks like it is just completely dropping the connection
[22:18] <flonk> I can ftp into it, i can see the webserver
[22:18] <i7c> flonk: have you tried an ssh 127.0.0.1   on the server?
[22:18] <beandog> flonk: well, you could always run a second SSH server
[22:18] <flonk> Yep, that doesnt work either
[22:19] <flonk> It's very wierd
[22:19] <beandog> flonk: oh I know
[22:19] <i7c> flonk: do you have a port conflict on the ipv4 port?
[22:19] <i7c> flonk: because your netstat in your thread only showed ipv6 port
[22:19] <beandog> flonk: on the target machine run this: sudo tail -f /var/log/auth.log
[22:20] <beandog> then try an SSH attempt, and see if it logs anything
[22:21] <flonk> Hmm it doesn't seem too
[22:21] <flonk> Just shows the recent commands i put in
[22:21] <i7c> flonk: do another netstat and grep port 22 ... i think your problem is there
[22:22] <i7c> flonk: try different port in sshd_config
[22:22] <i7c> flonk: and connect to the other (after restarting service)
[22:23] <TeknoJuce> anyone know how to open 4 different screen sessions not (-t) via scripting it gets pretty crazy when I try it opens one then you close one then it open the next
[22:23] <TeknoJuce> etc
[22:23] <flonk> Netstat doesnt return anything on port 22 now
[22:23] <flonk> im trying switching ports
[22:24] <jthan> TeknoJuce: You want to open something specific in each of them, or?
[22:25] <flonk> i7c: it refuses me on that port too
[22:25] <flonk> >_<
[22:25] <TeknoJuce> jthan yes I want to open 4 irssi in / one in each
[22:26] <atoi> is there a way to ask aptitude to show you which package a file belongs to?
[22:26] <jthan> TeknoJuce: give me a second to try something..
[22:26] <TeknoJuce> ok thank you
[22:26] <i7c> flonk: :-/
[22:27] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. I just need to setup a simple ftp server on my local machine. I want to use vsftpd and localhost. Is this possible?
[22:28] <Dr_willis> hazamonzo,  should be. but why do you need ftp?
[22:28] <hazamonzo> I had a quick read of https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html but when i test a connect to the FTP server using localhost i get no connection
[22:28] <hazamonzo> Dr_willis: Oh its just some silly thing im trying to do. I just need to test some code that uploads files to FTP
[22:29] <flonk> Alright this is wierd when i go "sudo service ssh stop" is says "stop: unknown instance" but when i go "sudo service ssh start" is says "ssh/start running, process 1xxx"
[22:29] <beandog> flonk: thats ... weird
[22:29] <beandog> flonk: oh, do this
[22:29] <beandog> sec
[22:29] <flonk> cool
[22:29] <kristenbb> hi, I've lost my sound icon on 12.04. How to get it back ?
[22:29] <i7c> flonk: it isn't weird
[22:29] <TeknoJuce> jthan, this was the command I was using screen -S SCREENNAME irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n USERNICK -h USERHOST
[22:29] <ceege> try /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[22:30] <i7c> flonk: if it does not run and you stop it it says "unknown instance"
[22:30] <hazamonzo> Dr_willis: With the basic install of vsftp should i be able to connect to localhost or do i need more config?
[22:30] <beandog> flonk: do this: sudo service ssh stop; sudo sshd
[22:30] <beandog> and see what it does
[22:30] <beandog> that'll run it in the forgeground
[22:30] <beandog> *foreground
[22:30] <LLStarks> what's the proper way to build wine in ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:30] <LLStarks> BUILD
[22:30] <jthan> TeknoJuce: Okay - and what was your issue with that?
[22:31] <i7c> LLStarks: idk exactly, donwload source, run configure run make install?
[22:31] <jthan> TeknoJuce: If you want to script it to open four, you would just repeat said command with ";" in the middle of them.
[22:31] <flonk> "stop: unknown instance: sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"
[22:31] <albru123> What's normall time of Ubuntu 12.04 installation in VirtualBox?
[22:31] <LLStarks> you can't build 32-bit wine on 64-bit ubuntu
[22:31] <LLStarks> since 12.04
[22:31] <i7c> flonk: well yeh i get the same error, my sshd works ^^
[22:31] <LLStarks> i want to know how to get around this
[22:31] <TeknoJuce> jthan, dont know much about scripting so when I run it four times in a script it waits until you close the first screen until it runs the next
[22:31] <flonk> i7c: lol
[22:32] <jthan> TeknoJuce: ahhh, yeah. I hear you. One more second here..
[22:32] <jthan> TeknoJuce: there is a flag you can specify to start the screen session without attaching to it ;-)
[22:32] <jthan> TeknoJuce: http://rpatterson.net/blog/screen-sessions-at-boot
[22:32] <TeknoJuce> hmm
[22:33] <flonk> i'm using 11.04 btw
[22:33] <philmeister> Hello. I have two monitors set up in twinview (nvidia). Though everytime i boot my computer, only my right monitor works and i have to go into nvidia x server settings to enable my primary one
[22:33] <albru123> installing ubuntu more than hour, annoying
[22:33] <philmeister> Anybody got a clue what the problem might be?
[22:33] <jthan> TeknoJuce: That should just keep you at the same prompt, which would allow the next one to run. Also, could try "&&" instead of ";"
[22:34] <i7c> philmeister: did you use that one option (forget how the button is labled exactly). saying something like write X config file
[22:34] <TeknoJuce> ok I will read this over and try your suggestions
[22:34] <jthan> TeknoJuce: let me know how you make out. I'm going to be here for about another 10 minutes
[22:34] <philmeister> i7c: haven't seen an option like that mate
[22:34] <flonk> beandog and i7c are we out of ideas? I'm at a loss here! :)
[22:35] <Hexeon> how do I get into root >_< su asks me for a password but it never prompted me for a root password during installation
[22:35] <beandog> flonk: at this point, I'd install dropbear, run it on port 222, and forget the whole thing
[22:35] <i7c> flonk: mhm well...did you try stupid stuff like rebooting?
[22:35] <flonk> i7c: yeah multiple times
[22:35] <arian-> can any body answer me?
[22:35] <KornKage2> philmeister theres a button below saying write/save configuration(saves x config file), if u are gonna save, i suggest you pick a different name
[22:36] <philmeister> i7c: Do you happen to mean "Include X Display Names in Config File"?
[22:36] <kristenbb> hi, I've lost my sound icon on 12.04. How to get it back ?
[22:36] <TeknoJuce> jthan do you think this is not the greatest way to run irc for 4 mobile clients that Mirc clients really suck for timing out to login to the server and connect to a screen running irssi instead?
[22:36] <flonk> beandog: i'll try that
[22:36] <philmeister> Oh, wait
[22:36] <beandog> flonk: aptitude install dropbear; edit /etc/default/dropbear and set NO_START to 0 and DROPBEAR_PORT to 222; then ssh -p 222 <connection stuff>
[22:36] <philmeister> think i found it
[22:36] <i7c> philmeister: :)
[22:36] <beandog> flonk: oh, and of course, sudo service dropbear restart after changing defaults
[22:37] <i7c> kristenbb: which DE?
[22:37] <philmeister> KornKage2: What do you mean with pick another name?
[22:37] <kristenbb> i7c: unity
[22:37] <kristenbb> i7c: unity 3d
[22:38] <ozfalcon> I need help with a bash script.  if I run this in a script it does wierd stuff. on command line it works as expected! --->  pacmd list-sinks |grep -A 1 '* index:'
[22:38] <beandog> flonk is mysteriously quiet, so I  hope that means something is working. :)
[22:38] <i7c> kristenbb: uuuh well, i dont know unity too well. poke some ppl here, they sure know
[22:38] <flonk> beandog: that worked lol
[22:38] <flonk> Thanks alot
[22:38] <beandog> yay
[22:38] <jthan> TeknoJuce: There is probably a better way, but I don't know what that would be.
[22:38] <kristenbb> @everyone poking you.
[22:38] <beandog> flonk: if you *want*
[22:38] <flonk> I could uninstall openssh and make dropbear port 22 no?
[22:39] <TeknoJuce> jthan ok so I guess this will have to suffice for now
[22:39] <beandog> flonk: you can remove openssh-server, and change the default port for dropbear to 22, then you won't need to pass the port paramater anymore
[22:39] <flonk> ;)
[22:39] <jthan> TeknoJuce: Yeah, if it works at least it will get you by until you find a "real" solution ;-)
[22:39] <flonk> Ill try that, i'll be crying in a minute if it fails lol
[22:40] <i7c> flonk: last week i changed a bunch of settings on my server which is 400km away... if this goes wrong you can cry ;)
[22:40] <keith___> /close
[22:40] <flonk> i7c: :D
[22:40] <kristenbb> hi, I've lost my sound icon on 12.04 with unity 3d. How to get it back ?
[22:41] <flonk> i7c and beandog you guys rock! Thank you so much for your help
[22:41] <flonk> It's working on port 22 now
[22:41] <flonk> =)
[22:41]  * beandog gives flonk a cookie
[22:41] <flonk> If you're ever in my neck of the woods remind me i owe you a beer
[22:41] <i7c> flonk: =) happy you figured it out without any of my advice :D
[22:41] <flonk> again, thanks alot!
[22:42] <flonk> Well i still don't know whats wrong other than sshd is borked
[22:42] <flonk> but it works
[22:42] <flonk> :D
[22:42] <flonk> im gonna celebrate with a cig
[22:42] <BitWraith> which package provides the "log" python module?
[22:43] <mcdonc> BitWraith: do you mean "logging"?
[22:43] <mcdonc> (if so that's built in to python)
[22:44] <i7c> kristenbb: maybe this helps? http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/restore-missing-volume-button-to-system-tray-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-3-classicfallback/
[22:44] <Rikairchy> all software should follow Cisco's principles. Pay for everything. Support, custom hardware, everything. A little like Apple with actual quality. With excellent customer support like Chase bank. With the dependability of an erection, and the pleasure of its use. If not, we should force all software to become proprietary with a fee to edit or update. Speaking of updates, it should follow
[22:44] <Rikairchy> Microsoft's policy: every update needs a restart with a 40% change of a system failure needing servicing, which will be overpriced.
[22:44] <kristenbb> i7c: I've been on that page
[22:44] <Rikairchy> can you guys make the wubi for it?
[22:44] <i7c> kristenbb: oh no, it's not a match to yours i guess
[22:44] <BitWraith> I get an import error at the "from log import *" line in my script
[22:44] <TeknoJuce> jthan strange it connects the screen then terminates it then moves on to the next one and does the same..
[22:44] <kristenbb> i7c: If I type  gnome-sound-applet, the processs starts, but nothing happens
[22:45] <BitWraith> well, not *my* script, I didn't write it
[22:45] <philmeister> i7c: Ok, now on boot both monitors are working. Though I have another problem. The dash is on both monitors, and I only want it on the left (primary) one. I know it's possible, but dont know how
[22:45] <i7c> Rikairchy: i guess this is not the place for whatever this is what you are trying to say.
[22:45] <Dr_willis> philmeister,  thats a setting.. top left gear menu, one of the idems in there. 'displays' or monitors or somthing like that
[22:46] <Dr_willis> philmeister,  check box at the bottom of the config window i recall.
[22:46] <i7c> kristenbb: what have you changed that it went away?
[22:46] <philmeister> Dr_willis: Sorry mate, you lost me. Where is that setting? I'm very new to ubuntu
[22:46] <kristenbb> i7c: nothing
[22:46] <kristenbb> i7c: as far as I know
[22:47] <kristenbb> i7c: I just noticed it was gone, just like that. sounds works though. And the alert appears if I change the volume up or down.
[22:47] <Dr_willis> philmeister,  look under the icons at the top right Icon.. its in there soemwhere
[22:48] <i7c> kristenbb: is there a way to edit the panel in unity? :/ i know nothing about unity, sorry
[22:48] <philmeister> Dr_willis: What top right icon lol? Where in ubuntu are we xD. nvidia x server settings or what?
[22:48] <i7c> could anybody else answer the question please? there must be someone using unity....
[22:49] <Dr_willis> philmeister,  under either displays, or monitors.. i recall.. Unity has some menus at the TOP RIGHT where you get to some system settings.
[22:49] <trism> kristenbb: indicator-sound not gnome-sound-applet (which won't show up by default since notification area apps much be whitelisted)
[22:49] <kristenbb> i7c: it is said that right clicking with alt pressed (and super too, for unity 3d, which is my case) should do something peculiar, and launch the panel editor or something, but I haven't seen anything special when I do this shortcut
[22:49] <ceege> I think alot of people switch OFF unity and use cinnamon or lxde
[22:50] <philmeister> Dr_willis: Yeah, i got system settings opened
[22:50] <Dr_willis> I think a lot of people  switch befor they give unity a chance.. and they will complain about anything anyway
[22:50] <Dr_willis> philmeister,  one of the other icons in that same menu at the top right i recall. Im not on ubuntu so cant tell you more
[22:50] <i7c> kristenbb: look for pulseaudio maybe?
[22:51] <kristenbb> i7c: how is it related ?
[22:51] <trism> kristenbb: sudo apt-get install indicator-sound;
[22:51] <i7c> kristenbb: pulseaudio is the soundserver on most linux distributions...
[22:51] <kristenbb> trism: why should I install something ? It was working before...
[22:51] <trism> kristenbb: pastebin: apt-cache policy indicator-sound; then
[22:51] <philmeister> Dr_willis: sorry man, i dont think your recall is correct :P
[22:52] <ryan_46> Dr_willis: displays is under the gear you click to shut down on top right
[22:52] <philmeister> Anybody else know how to only show the dash on one monitor instead of both in ubuntu 12.04
[22:52] <kristenbb> indicator-sound:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 0.8.5.0-0ubuntu2.1   Version table:      0.8.5.0-0ubuntu2.1 0         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages      0.8.5.0-0ubuntu2 0         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[22:52] <trism> kristenbb: there you have it: sudo apt-get install indicator-sound; log out/back in
[22:53] <philmeister> Dr_willis: oh, i think i know what u mean now lol. Sorry for being stupid
[22:53] <philmeister> There is this button called "Displays"
[22:54] <kyle__> what do you do/can you do if apt-get remove and apt-get purge fail removing something?  tftpd-hpa in this case
[22:54] <philmeister> Dr_willis: It says I have one huge monitor with 3600 x 1080 resolution lol.
[22:55] <ceege> dpkg -L packagename to find out all the files installed and manually remove them
[22:55] <beandog> ceege: ew, I was gonna suggest that too, but I was thinking "there's gotta be a better way ...."
[22:55] <ceege> lol
[22:55] <ceege> yeah kinda ugly
[22:55] <OerHeks> kyle__, sometimes those files are in use, apache2 for example.
[22:55] <philmeister> Dr_willis: awesome, got it fixed! thanks alot
[22:56] <kyle__> ceege: It tells me what files are there, but doesn't fix it.  Still cant cleanly remove it.
[22:56] <ceege> that just shows all the files for that package, but as mentioned, you might blow something else up that depends one them
[22:57] <ceege> *on
[22:57] <ryan_46> Hexeon: Did you get an answer about the root password?
[23:01] <Sunnyday> What is the most popular multiplayer linux game at the moment?
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> i am having problem generating gpg fingerprint
[23:02] <ryan_46> Hexeon When you sudo (for root powers) you just put in the password you use for your user.
[23:04] <surge> Sanfour -- stop sending that onjoin msg
[23:04] <beandog> Neverwinter Nights is pretty fun
[23:04] <surge> I'm looking for a way to create a script that will execute an ethtool command every time a ubuntu 11.04 server boots up -- any ideas?
[23:04] <kristenbb> installing the package and logging back in fixed my sound issue.
[23:04] <surge> it needs to be run after the network has been loaded
[23:05] <surge> yay...^ gone!
[23:05] <digitalcake> I have nvidia drivers for my 260gtx with twin view and they work fine except when I want to watch a full screen video in flash or when I want to play a game in full screen mode (f11). The problem is, the screen spans both monitors.
[23:05] <kristenbb> what was the name of the package again ?
[23:06] <bulletmark> surge: just add the ethtool command at the end of /etc/rc.local
[23:06] <digitalcake> my question is, is there a way to force fullscreen mode to only show on the primary monitor?
[23:07] <ryan_46> Where can I find the file to edit for which keyboard I use?
[23:08] <nannes> !ping
[23:09] <i7c> hahaha
[23:09] <beandog> lols
[23:09] <beandog> that's great
[23:10] <philmeister> So, I have installed teamspeak 3 on ubuntu 12.04. Is there a way to make a desktop shortcut for it? Atm I have to go into it's folder and run "ts3client_runscript.sh"
[23:11] <surge> thank you bulletmark
[23:12] <surge> i'll try that
[23:12] <surge> if the networks not up when that executes though i dont think it will work but might as well give it a shot
[23:13] <bulletmark> surge: It's where I run ethtool at bootup. Works for me.
[23:13] <surge> cool
[23:16] <kristenbb> how to list all installed packages since the ubuntu installation ?
[23:16] <jaequery> hi guys, in ubuntu 12.04, it seems sudo w/o password no longer works the same as before?
[23:17] <jaequery> i normally do,  someuser     ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[23:17] <jaequery> but on 12.04, no longer works, any ideea?
[23:17] <k1l_> kristenbb: maybe take a look into the apt-log? another way is to get the whole installed packages listed by dpkg
[23:18] <kristenbb> not the whole list, just the ones manually installed
[23:18] <i7c> kristenbb: dpkg --get-selections
[23:18] <i7c> kristenbb: not possible that way.
[23:19] <kristenbb> where is the apt-log ?
[23:19] <i7c> kristenbb: /var/log/apt/history.log
[23:19] <k1l_> /var/log/
[23:19] <i7c> kristenbb: shows pretty much what you want.
[23:20] <ryan_46> Where can I find the file to edit for which keyboard I use? Are they somewhere in /etc ?
[23:20] <bulletmark> kristenbb: actually it is /var/log/history.log* (older files are gzipped)
[23:20] <bulletmark> sorry /var/log/apt/history.log*
[23:21] <kristenbb> so how would I go to display the command line of all of these
[23:22] <beandog> ryan_46: I dunno, but I remember seeing a wiki page about it the other day
[23:22] <kristenbb>  cat /var/log/apt/history.log* | grep Command ? I don't think the * works for zipped files
[23:22] <beandog> ryan-c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KeyboardSettings
[23:22] <bulletmark> use zcat
[23:22] <beandog> that's for gz
[23:23] <ryan_46> beandog:  ok thanks
[23:23] <beandog> oh
[23:23] <beandog> logs
[23:23] <beandog> they're probably gzipped :)
[23:23] <kristenbb> but zcat only works for .gz, right ?
[23:23] <beandog> right
[23:23] <kristenbb> I want to display both
[23:23] <beandog> so zcat /foo/*gz | grep foo
[23:24] <kristenbb> I want to display both history.log and history.log.gz
[23:24] <beandog> dunno
[23:24] <beandog> I'm sure there's some string binary that concats two pipe outputs
[23:24] <beandog> no idea what though
[23:24] <beandog> heck, cat might do it
[23:24] <individual> why do you guys use linux
[23:24] <beandog> individual: chicks love it
[23:25] <bulletmark> kristen: try aptitude search '?installed ?not(?automatic)' -F '%p' and see if that gives what you want
[23:25] <individual> beandog, i thought that was mac
[23:25] <athom> hello
[23:25] <stiv2k> hello does anyone use the computer janitor? I opened it and its just a blank window what is it supposed to look like/
[23:25] <stiv2k> ?
[23:25] <beandog> individual: if it is, that sure explains a lot
[23:25] <individual> lol
[23:25] <athom> I have a problem regarding installing ubuntu 12.04 onto a usb pendrive
[23:25] <individual> i thought linuxers were nerds
[23:25] <athom> could not find a solution anywhere
[23:26] <beandog> we're the ones that get everything in the background working that everyone takes for granted. :)
[23:26] <individual> does porn work good on linux?
[23:26] <genii-around> individual: Please try to keep the channel family-friendly
[23:27] <phoenix_firebrd> i having a problem generating gpg fingerprint
[23:27] <individual> what
[23:27] <individual> all my family watched porn
[23:27] <individual> traditional bro
[23:27] <individual> all my family used mac
[23:27] <athom> I followed method 1 from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent/ as I like to have a regular install on my pendrive
[23:27] <individual> but now i am using PC because mac is retarded and slow
[23:27] <individual> like ubuntu
[23:27] <genii-around> individual: If you mean more like "is linux good to visit sketchy websites with" then yes
[23:27] <individual> and it gives me a headache
[23:27] <individual> (the interface)
[23:28] <Catbus_> hey, ubuntu is not retarded
[23:28] <individual> it is?
[23:28] <athom> everything went fine (made swap and ext4 partitions) except for booting
[23:28] <individual> chrome doesn't even run
[23:28] <athom> I am confronted with the grub terminal (minimal bash-like line editing...)
[23:28] <individual> firefox dos i hear, but has just been made linux
[23:28] <Catbus_> but you should google whether a laptop is compatible with ubuntu before yuou buy it and install it
[23:28] <Catbus_> lest the graphics card be not supported
[23:29] <individual> this is a desktop
[23:29] <individual> yeah thats why linux sucks
[23:29] <Catbus_> meh, same diff
[23:29] <athom> I tried to rebuild grub using terminal commands from live ubuntu, but that did not change a thing
[23:29] <athom> when running live ubuntu, the partitions are correctly read
[23:29] <individual> wtf is grub
[23:29] <genii-around> individual: chrome is not a standard part of ubuntu. Sorry to hear it's not working for you.
[23:29] <individual> you cant install ANYTHING
[23:30] <individual> i tried but it keeps giving me errors
[23:30] <tr3nton> =/
[23:30] <genii-around> individual: Have you tried the software center?
[23:30] <individual> am i doing something wrong?
[23:30] <individual> what?
[23:30] <individual> whats that?
[23:30] <genii-around> individual: A description of the errors might help
[23:30] <athom> so I was wondering if someone has a solutions or at least a hint towards it
[23:30] <tr3nton> how are you trying to install software?
[23:30] <athom> *solution
[23:30] <individual> i don't fucking remember
[23:31]  * genii-around sips coffee
[23:31]  * beandog pokes genii-around 
[23:31] <k1l_> need some staff power?
[23:31] <m0tte> why thunderbird plays no custom notification sound?
[23:32] <Catbus_> lol
[23:32] <tr3nton> what a top bloke, individual
[23:32] <Catbus_> what the heck
[23:32] <Catbus_> why do i even default to showing con/dis messages?
[23:32] <beandog> Catbus_: I wonder the same thing myself. -_-
[23:33] <Catbus_> dang xchat
[23:33] <beandog> yahp
[23:33] <athom> so does anyone have an idea what might be the problem regarding my situation?
[23:33] <FoolsRun> Hi, my 12.04 machine only boots successfully every second time. When it doesn't boot it locks hard at the logo screen with all the dots filled orange.  Can anyone point me at which log to check to try to figure out what's going on?
[23:34] <Catbus_> every second? for a time for me it was more like one time in 5
[23:34] <Catbus_> :D i realise that's no help
[23:34] <FoolsRun> catbus_ literally every second time. The second times it gives me the Grub menu and the non-graphical splash. No idea if that's what's helping :)
[23:35] <b2coutts_> Hi, I want to make a bash script that SSH's me into a server. The server requires a password, is there a way for me to automate the password with the bash script, or will I have to manually enter it each time?
[23:35] <FoolsRun> I can't imagine how seeing the grub menu and the non-graphical splash would make a difference in booting
[23:35] <beandog> b2coutts_: you can use ssh public keys without a passphrase
[23:35] <Flynn> Anyone know why Xubuntu seems to save everything without me asking?
[23:35] <b2coutts_> beandog: I have an account on the server I want to connect to, which allows me to access files I have on it
[23:36] <Flynn> I cleared my Xresources and Xdefaults and xrdb -merge and its still showing xterm's custom colors i set
[23:36] <bulletmark> b2coutts_: the proper way is to use a key with a pass-phrase. The pass-phrase will get cached in your ubuntu keychain after the first time you use it from login.
[23:36] <Catbus_> b2coutts_, i have no idea but when i pass to SQL the format is username/password
[23:36] <Catbus_> @domain
[23:37] <beandog> bulletmark: he wants to automate it
[23:37] <b2coutts_> bulletmark: Do you mean ubuntu should automatically remember the password? I'm using a plaintext password that I chose, and I have to enter it every time I connect to the server
[23:37] <beandog> b2coutts_: no, create a public key.  for passphrase, just hit enter (blank)
[23:37] <totesmuh1oats> hi friends
[23:37] <m0tte> it only play sound if the file is located in home
[23:37] <simplew> if i create a user with id less than 1000 kdm does not list it, why?
[23:38] <b2coutts_> I was just wondering if there was a way to enter the password automatically via a bash script, i.e. echo password | ssh serveraddress
[23:38] <beandog> b2coutts_: ssh-keygen -t dsa
[23:38] <beandog> b2coutts_: then ssh-copy-id ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub foo@server
[23:38]  * genii-around sighs
[23:38] <beandog> b2coutts_: then ssh as normal, and you're in
[23:38] <totesmuh1oats> i am having a strange issue the last couple of days, i don't know exactly what caused it. when i play an audio file everything seems to be working fine but no audio comes out of my speakers
[23:38] <totesmuh1oats> i have specified the device i want to make use of with mplayer and it works fine, i have checked alsamixer and nothing is muted
[23:39] <totesmuh1oats> just no sound coming out
[23:39] <FoolsRun> Catbus_: did you fix your non-booting issue?
[23:43] <b2coutts_> beandog: got it working now, thanks
[23:43] <beandog> cool
[23:43] <DeXtEr_> ever now and then my mouse freezes and the whole computer crashes how would i fix fix this minor bug? any ideas
[23:44] <stiv2k> hello does anyone use the computer janitor? I opened it and its just a blank window what is it supposed to look like?
[23:45] <stiv2k> is psensor an accurate program? It says my gpu temperature is 102 C
[23:45] <ghostchick> DeXtEr_, When does it happen do you have many programs running?
[23:45] <x1k> DeXtEr_: is this a frequent issue, or does it happen during certain tasks?
[23:45] <yakushi> hey kd Br?
[23:45] <muellisoft> b2coutts_, beandog: better use ssh-copy-id
[23:46] <beandog> muellisoft: yah, I mentioned that
[23:46] <b2coutts_> muellisoft: yeah, that's what I used
[23:46] <DeXtEr_> hardly anything running just the essentials
[23:46] <muellisoft> ncie
[23:46] <beandog> :)
[23:47] <beandog> muellisoft: makes things sooooooooo easy :)
[23:47] <Saeryn> DeXtEr_: What do you mean 'crashes' what happens?
[23:47] <DeXtEr_> firewall, web browser
[23:47] <DeXtEr_> just freezes
[23:47] <athom> could someone help me with the problem I described above, or at least hint me into the right direction?
[23:47] <wawowe> DeXtEr_: check ram and/or upgrade kernel
[23:47] <x1k> DeXtEr_: have you tried reproducing the bug by running in Unity2D, versus the 3D version? that may help determine if it is a system or video issue
[23:48] <DeXtEr_> good idea thanks!
[23:48] <wawowe> or, yeah it could be a graphic driver issue
[23:49] <ghostchick> DeXtEr_, I think it maybe swapping off
[23:50] <kristenbb> how can I set ubuntu not to write a nbsp (but a normal space instead) when I type altgr+space ?
[23:50] <FoolsRun> Hi, my 12.04 machine only boots successfully every second time. When it doesn't boot it locks hard at the logo screen with all the dots filled orange. I can't get to tty login, it's locked hard. When it DOES boot, it's after a failed boot so it gives me the GRUB menu and the non-graphical splash but I have no idea if these are related to it working.  Can anyone point me at which log to check to try to figure out what's go
[23:50] <FoolsRun> ing on?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Are you able to reboot more cleanly using Sysrq magic?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | FoolsRun
[23:52] <DeXtEr_> my memory is only using 739mb outta 3.5gb swap says 0.0% of 5.3 gb any ideas?
[23:52] <jthan> TeknoJuce: Heh. That is weird.
[23:52] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: I'll try that
[23:53] <jthan> TeknoJuce: are you using the flag to start it detached?
[23:53] <OomElvis> Q: i want a simple program that connects to my pop3 mailbox and lets me see whats on the server (storing messages locally not necessary)... and allows me to delete straight off the server. basically so that i dont have to type so much in a telnet session
[23:54] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: rebooting cleanly from a "working" boot gives me a non-working boot which can't be rebooted from. Powering off manually from THAT and powering on gives me a working boot.
[23:54] <Fishscene> Greetings everyone. I'm about to create an image for 33 computers for students. I have a file on the Desktop that I do not want students to delete or modify in any way - only to execute the script. Is there a way to disable students from deleting this file?
[23:55] <Fishscene> I've changed the owner and set the permissions in Nautilus to read only. But students can still send it to the trash and delete it.
[23:55] <ghostchick> Fishscene, chattr +i
[23:55] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: I'm asking if you are crashed so badly that you can't use Sysrq magic to reboot more cleanly. You haven't answered that (or I misunderstood your answer).
[23:55] <Fishscene> ghostchick: I will look into this. Thanks!
[23:56] <ghostchick> Fishscene, You are welcome
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: If a file is in a directory which they own, with only standard Unix permissions and no sticky bit, they can unlink it. That's normal.
[23:56] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: Ah, I misunderstood. I'll reboot to a "frozen" state and answer that shortly.
[23:56] <kristenbb> how can I set ubuntu not to write a nbsp (but a normal space instead) when I type altgr+space ?
[23:58] <Fishscene> Perfect! This method works perfectly. Thanks again!
[23:58] <Fishscene> You guys wouldn't believe the crazy setup I have here... All made possible with Ubuntu.