[00:00] <anja_versus> hellslinger: the title bars look fine to me, but the process list in ksysguard has odd letter spacing
[00:01] <hellslinger> anja_versus: what kind of video card/driver are you running and what are your font settings, if you don't mind me asking?
[00:02] <anja_versus> nvidia driver, slight hinting, rgba subpixel order
[00:03] <hellslinger> interesting, for some reason on my laptop and media center PC with intel/oss drivers looks perfect, but I have 2 desktops with nvidia cards that have never looked exactly right
[00:03] <anja_versus> hm. I could try it with the nouveau driver to check, but that one doesn't work for me for other reasons. as long as it's just ksysguard I don't really mind
[00:04] <hellslinger> I've tried nouveau as well, no difference noticed
[00:04] <hellslinger> I should try it again just to see
[00:11] <drox> how do i do to impost the icc how predifinit profile icc for monitor
[00:11] <drox> ?
[00:53] <what_if> I just installed the Kubuntu MAC image and it does not boot. Sits at blinking cursor. Ideas?
[00:54] <what_if> Must I install GRUB separate / manually?
[00:56] <what_if> (crickets)
[00:56] <BarkingFish> morning guys, anyone know where I can find a font package that displays burmese script?
[01:01] <genii-around> I really should get some more hands-on with installing on Macs
[01:03] <BarkingFish> morning genii-around :)
[01:04] <genii-around> Hi BarkingFish!
[01:06] <BarkingFish> you wouldn't happen to know the answer to my question above, would you please?
[01:07] <BarkingFish> I'm working on Wikipedia, we have a new user whose name is in the Myanmar/Burmese script - but I can't communicate with them or list what their actual name should be, due to not having that font installed - when I copy/paste it, all I get is a row of blocks like this: ဟန္ၿဖိဳးေအာင္
[01:12] <what_if> Has anyone here ever gotten the latest Kubuntu MAC install to work...
[01:12] <what_if> I think they forgot GRUB
[01:12] <what_if> at least GRUB2... which is required
[02:11] <c2tarun> Amarok not playing mp3s even after installing the plugins, can anyone please help me with this?
[02:11] <c2tarun> I am using audacious now.
[02:17]  * c2tarun just tried clementine :) loving it
[03:06] <Daskreech> c2tarun: #amarok might be able to help if you like
[03:29] <Kuri92> Hello
[04:35] <Linuxephus> Is there a built-in light version desktop for Kubuntu 12.04? I could've sworn there was, but I'm damned if I can find it.
[04:40] <Daskreech> kde-minimal ?
[04:42] <Linuxephus> Daskreech: I'm not actually sure. I could have sworn Kubuntu 12.04 had something similar to Gnome's fallback (Classic) DE for less than stellar performing video cards.
[04:43] <Daskreech> Linuxephus: Well it doesn't need the video card soooo not sure why it would need a different DE for that
[04:45] <Daskreech> Linuxephus: You have something that's slow?
[04:45] <Linuxephus> Daskreech: Let me rephrase this...Are you aware of any KDE light variation desktop? Not a different DE, merely a less resource hungry KDE version for Kubuntu 12.04. I could've sworn They had something like that built in for the newest LTS Release.
[04:46] <Linuxephus> No, not me in particular.
[04:46] <Daskreech> Linuxephus: Do you mean the low fat settings?
[04:46] <Linuxephus> Yes!
[04:47] <Daskreech> !info kubuntu-low-fat-settings
[04:47] <Linuxephus> I was mentioning something like that to a freind on Mumble, but couldn't remember the exact description for it.
[04:47] <Linuxephus> My humble thanks Daskreech.
[04:47] <Daskreech> Welcome
[05:41] <rbag> hi
[05:58] <Daskreech> Hello
[07:55] <MattQC> hello
[07:57] <hyoyeon> hey
[09:19] <rethus> i still can not connect with kontact to google-calendar. i got a token error...
[09:20] <rethus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi-googledata/+bug/1022698
[09:20] <rethus> this seems to be exactly my problem too
[09:52] <rethus> i have add this to my sourcelist: https://code.launchpad.net/~benoitg/+archive/akonadigoogle-daily
[09:53] <rethus> but the actual version-number is below the one shown on this page... and munon doesn't give me an upgrade for it
[10:12] <hyoyeon> NTFS signiture is missing, failed to mount /dev/loop1 :: When I run the command : mount -o loop,offset=32256 \
[10:12] <hyoyeon>    -t ntfs /nebula/hda_dd.image /mnt                  - Would anyone have any advice?
[10:17] <Mamarok> rethus: did you add it as the Precise source or maybe the Oneiric one?
[10:18] <rethus> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ur3128%0A
[10:20] <rethus> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ae3128%0A
[10:21] <rethus> you see only snapshot 176 are shown... not the much mor actual versions like described on the page
[10:22] <rethus> Mamarok: any idea?
[10:23] <Mamarok> on which page, Launchpad?
[10:23] <rethus> jes
[10:24]  * Mamarok tries to install it
[10:24] <Mamarok> you did update your sources I presume?
[10:25] <rethus> you mean apt-get update
[10:25] <rethus> yes more than once
[10:29] <Mamarok> well, I assume the PPA has a problem, you should file a report to the owner of the PPA
[10:29] <Mamarok> just send him a mail
[10:29] <Mamarok> I only get version 176 as well for precise, so his PPA is defective
[10:36] <summentier> Hi everybody! One question regarding the search in KMail 4.8.4 (kubuntu precise): Can I somehow tweak the behaviour of  the search bar to mimic  GMail's mail search, i.e. search all folders and  also search the complete message (I am aware that this is available through  "Edit > Find messages")?
[10:39] <Mamarok> summentier: did you try the settings?
[10:41] <Mamarok> summentier: ?
[10:41] <summentier> Yeah I did, either I overlooked it or I don't get it :)
[10:41] <summentier> Can you give me a hint where to look?
[10:42] <Mamarok> in the settings in Misc, try the option "Loop in all folders", the default is "Do not loop"
[10:43] <Mamarok> that is the only tweak I can imagine to help
[10:46] <summentier> IMHO that only changed the way kubuntu discovers unread messages.  It did not have any effect  on the search bar.
[10:47] <Mamarok> and your mail is indexed by nepomuk?
[10:47] <Mamarok> that should search in all folders
[10:48] <summentier> Yes, I think so. At least when I try "Edit > Find messages..." then it (correctly) searches through all my messages in all folders (if I tick the corresponding option).
[10:50] <summentier> I think that out of speed considertions, the search bar only searches through the current folder and only searches subjects and sender.
[10:51] <summentier> But this is not very useful for me, because I usually only remember what's *in* the mail, not its subject line. So I end up doing a "deep" search via "Edit > Find messages..." all the time, so thats why...
[10:53] <hateball> summentier: what if you search using krunner rather than inside KMail ?
[10:55] <summentier> @hateball Now that's a useful feature, I didn't know it could do that!
[10:56] <hateball> krunner is best of best <3
[10:57] <summentier> I think I will never have to open kmail anymore ;) - thanks a lot!
[11:39] <arian__> ?????????????????????
[11:48] <arian__> I want to unistall complety kde (i tried but I have that on light dm  :( )
[11:48] <arian__> what can i do
[11:48] <arian__> ?
[11:49] <arian__> ?????????
[11:49] <arian__> ??????????
[11:49] <arian__> ??????????
[11:49] <FloodBotK1> arian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <joaquin> Hello everybody
[11:58] <joaquin> somebody know how to make default option to open magnet links in onqueror with transmission-qt?
[11:59] <joaquin> somebody know how to make default option to open magnet links in konqueror with transmission-qt?
[12:03] <gimli> hello guys
[12:04] <aragorn> hello guys
[12:04] <aragorn> can i ask my ques?
[12:04] <aragorn> ?
[12:04] <aragorn> please help
[12:45] <arian_> #ubuntu
[12:56] <hyoyeon> nickname Kehe
[12:59] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
[13:05] <hyoyeon> Morning
[13:23] <arian_> #ubuntu ? is ther ubuntu irc?
[15:20] <cypher-neo> Hi there, I just installed the kscreensavers-gl-extra package, but none of the new screensavers are showing up in the screensaver menu. Is there something else I have to do to enable them?
[15:44] <BarkingFish> hi guys. Anybody know what the default audio device is in Kubuntu? The equivalent of whatever /dev/dsp is for Gnome, please?
[15:55] <Joit> BarkingFish:  i got hw:0,0 in vlc
[15:56] <Joit> or hw:0,2
[15:56] <BarkingFish> hm
[15:57] <BarkingFish> Basically, I'm trying to set up Kino, which is a video editor, and was built for gnome.  I have Gnome's base installed, but the audio is trying to go via /dev/dsp, and I'm getting nothing whatsoever.
[15:57] <BarkingFish> I want to try sending the audio to a different audio device
[16:03] <Joit> BarkingFish:  you can look at the folder, what you got there, but i think you been close with /dev/sda0
[16:04] <Joit> no wrong, thats sata seems
[16:06] <BarkingFish> /dev/sda is a hard disk :)
[16:07] <Joit> i am trying ls -l /dev/sda
[16:07] <Joit> i am trying ls -l /dev/snd !
[16:08] <Joit> gives me crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  7 Jul 11 16:56 controlC0
[16:08] <Joit> crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Jul 11 16:56 hwC0D0
[16:08] <Joit> and some more
[16:08] <Joit> may look at the folder /dev/snd
[16:20] <Kvaks> I'm looking for an alternative to Digikam to manage my photos. Recommendations? I love Lightroom for Windows, with virtual collections and non-destructive editing, but I'm interesting in trying anything.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Kvaks, manages your photos , in what manner exactly , gwenview is a usable app for simple photo tasks
[16:25] <Kvaks> Import Canon RAW files, preferably have the two mentioned features: virtual collections (not bound to folders and physical file copies) and non-destructive editing. Especially the former.
[16:26] <Kvaks> I wanted to like Digikam, but it has a lot of features I don't need and none of the features I'd like it to have...
[16:26] <BluesKaj> virtual collections (not bound to folders and physical file copies) ?..sorry I don't understand what that means
[16:27] <mkpaa> I suppose there still is no tool available for iphoto to digikam migration? It is again time to do that.
[16:28] <Kvaks> So you have files in folders. Some photo managers focus the browsing/organizing on that structure (but may also allow browsing by date, etc). Virtual collections are just collections of pointers to photos regardless of where they are physically localed on the file system. Very handy IMO.
[16:29] <Kvaks> /s/some/most
[16:31] <Kvaks> Organizing by physical folders is sort of primitive. I almost might as well just use Dolphin and its preview feature.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Kvaks, oh , links ..ok there is a "Free RAW converter and digital photo processing software" called "rawtherapee" in the repos
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Kvaks, actually dolphin with gwenview handle my photos very well , simple annd easy IMO
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ok BB; stuff to do for a few
[16:33] <Kvaks> Checking out rawtherapee, thanks.
[16:52] <Daskreech> http://lifehacker.com/5877908/the-best-photo-management-app-for-linux
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yes , he was using digikam , but was looking for an alternative.
[17:00] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Just saying :)
[17:00] <Daskreech> I'm almost certain Digikam has virtual collections with the tagging
[17:01] <BluesKaj> tried it once and agree with the assessment : "its interface is cluttered, confusing, and really overwhelming to new or casual users."
[17:02] <Kvaks>  Daskreech, yeah you can sort of fake it with tagging, but it's a poor replacement for proper virtual collections such as Lightroom has.
[17:03] <Daskreech> Kvaks: I've never hit a high point in Photo management despite my efforts but I'd say jump into #digikam and speak with them THey do care greatly about the application and may at least be able to tell you what's on the roadmap.
[17:04] <BluesKaj> tries to doi too much without any expalnation of it's various functions ..i guess apro photographe would understand it'd GUI better than a layman
[17:06] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: That's kinda the audience for it
[17:33] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[17:41] <Daskreech> Hello
[17:41] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: hi
[18:03] <jo13> hey
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> jayne: hi
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> oops
[18:27] <JewProducer> hi
[18:52] <babalu> i installed default-jre (on kubuntu), but i'm still getting this error when trying to run a java program: http://pastebin.com/32aQ0SXR
[18:54] <daniekl> why not trying executing my konsole: java <program_name>
[18:59] <babalu> this is not my program and it's being run by a script
[18:59] <babalu> oh he left :/
[19:07] <babalu> daniekl:
[19:07] <babalu> this is not my program and it's being run by a script
[19:07] <daniekl> by a script?
[19:08] <babalu> yes a bash script: http://pastebin.com/jCiSxhh1
[19:08] <daniekl> I mean, I execute java programs (.class and .jar) by java on tty
[19:08] <babalu> daniekl: i got the program there: http://www.uppaal.org/download/registration.php?id=5&subid=2
[19:09] <babalu> they said i need to run this bash script in order to run their program
[19:10] <genii-around> Hm, cygwin
[19:10] <daniekl> what the program does
[19:10] <daniekl> ?
[19:10] <babalu> genii-around: they have binaries for both linux/windows
[19:11] <babalu> daniekl: it's a reachability/safety checker for timed games
[19:11] <babalu> "To run UPPAAL-TIGA on Linux systems run the tiga script." (in the readme file of the program)
[19:11] <babalu> (the tiga script is the script i pastebined)
[19:12] <babalu> is it normal that none of the variables $CLASSPATH $JAVA_HOME $JAVA_PATH are defined for me?
[19:12] <daniekl> I sopouse u installed java and executed the program by "sg <the script>", isn't it?
[19:12] <babalu> daniekl: ye it looks like java is installed, and i run the script by just by ./script
[19:13] <daniekl> Then the problem is that u have to define them
[19:13] <babalu> actually the program runs well, up until i go in the "Simulator" tab, and it crashes and i get this error
[19:13] <daniekl> could you send it againg please
[19:14] <babalu> http://www.uppaal.org/download/registration.php?id=5&subid=2 it's free it doesn't require a valid email
[19:14] <daniekl> not the program, the fail
[19:14] <babalu> http://pastebin.com/32aQ0SXR
[19:15] <daniekl> thanks
[19:15] <babalu> what should my JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH be?
[19:16] <daniekl> MOther of fails!!
[19:17] <daniekl> the JAVA_HOME is the path were java is installes
[19:17] <babalu> daniekl: i set JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH but i'm still getting the same problem
[19:18] <babalu> echo $JAVA_HOME returns /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386                                        echo $CLASSPATH returns /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/lib/
[19:18] <daniekl> okay, I see its a problem with swing, I hope...
[19:19] <daniekl> By the way, report the bug, cuz I run out of minds
[19:20] <babalu> at org.freehep.graphics2d.VectorGraphics.create(VectorGraphics.java:393)
[19:21] <babalu> maybe the problem is from this weird class?
[19:21] <babalu> there are some freehep jars in the /lib subdirectory of the program
[19:22] <daniekl> maybe, its a 136 lines java excetion, i think it could be everything
[19:23] <daniekl> I wonder they didn't use the official 2d graphical libs
[19:23] <daniekl> buit i don't know why
[19:24] <genii-around> Looking at http://java.freehep.org/vectorgraphics/Manual.html  and then the results of apt-cache search vector| grep java makes me think you may need something from that list
[19:25] <babalu> genii-around: but the jar files are provided in the zip of the program
[19:25] <babalu> only problem is that they didn't specify the classpath to contains those jar files maybe?
[19:26] <genii-around> babalu: Probably looking in  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/lib/ and not finding
[19:26] <babalu> yes, but the jar is in the local lib
[19:26] <babalu> i mean, in my ~/src/ where i unzipped the file
[19:26] <daniekl> someone knows what means splash in spanish?
[19:28] <babalu> no sorry :(
[19:28] <babalu> so how do i add all the jar's in lib to the classpath?
[19:29] <daniekl> umm, thats could be the point
[19:30] <daniekl> so. cp jars_path/* CLASSPATH
[19:30] <babalu> seriously that works?
[19:30] <babalu> no: CLASSPATH is not a directory
[19:31] <daniekl> no funcking idea, try after making some backups
[19:31] <daniekl> u said "echo $CLASSPATH returns /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/lib/"
[19:31] <daniekl> so CLASSPATH is a directory
[19:31] <babalu> ah, $CLASSPATH then ^^
[19:31] <genii-around> babalu: Maybe add -cp to the bash script where it runs the java fro.. like java $JAVA_DEF -jar "$JAR" --enginePath "$ENGINE" $*    into java -cp $JAVA_DEF -jar "$JAR" --enginePath "$ENGINE" $*
[19:32] <daniekl> yeah, my fault
[19:32] <daniekl> no, no, check the bash file
[19:32] <daniekl> it asks for java 6
[19:32] <daniekl> not 7, which is your curretn java installation
[19:33] <babalu> genii-around: what is cp supposed to do? i still have the same error
[19:33] <daniekl> it copy files to one path to another
[19:34] <daniekl> I think you need java6
[19:34] <babalu> daniekl: no i meant the -cp option of java
[19:34] <babalu> hm ok i'll try with java6
[19:35] <daniekl> oh sorry, i didn't know there was a -cp option for java
[19:35] <genii-around> babalu: According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=500943681947320753af629512c59377&p=10857683&postcount=2  supposed to add whatever the path you are running the jarfile from into your c lasspath
[19:35] <babalu> genii-around: ye but not the lib subdirectory + jar files inside?
[19:36] <babalu> well, i put all the jars in my CLASSPATH, but it still doesn't work
[19:37] <babalu> i'll try with java6
[19:37] <genii-around> babalu: Not sure. I don't usually have a lot to do with java normally, so I'm basically just trying to look up stuff on the fly right now
[19:37] <babalu> it's nice of you
[19:37] <daniekl> babalu: well... I'm leaving, luck with java6. Bye
[19:37] <babalu> btw the algorithms uppaal implements is also on-the-fly so i guess it's appropriate
[19:38] <babalu> np, thanks for the help, see you
[19:46] <babalu> genii-around: same problem with java6
[19:51] <babalu> i mean it's a tool that's been around about 20years now, i don't get how i can't run it :/
[19:51] <genii-around> babalu: Maybe try installing libfreehep-graphics2d-java   , the class "org.freehep.graphics2d.PixelGraphics2D" seems to be in there
[19:51] <babalu> ye i installed libfreehep-* it gave me about 60mo of packages
[19:52] <babalu> (installing)
[19:52] <babalu> genii-around: where did it put the jar files though?
[19:53] <babalu> i need to redefine my CLASSPATH?
[19:53] <genii-around> babalu: Hang on
[19:53] <genii-around> No no i don't think so
[19:53] <babalu> (because it doesn't work as is)
[19:54] <genii-around> babalu: When (k)ubuntu installs them from packages, the jar files are going into /usr/share/java/
[19:54] <babalu> yes ok i see them
[19:55] <genii-around> babalu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/libfreehep-graphics2d-java/filelist  also indicates a couple other paths but I'm not sure what this means
[19:59] <babalu> genii-around: any other idea? :(
[20:01] <babalu> funny, when we search "at org.freehep.graphics2d.VectorGraphics.create(VectorGraphics.java:393)" on google someone posted almost the same log one week ago
[20:02] <genii-around> babalu: There seems to be not much online about it, yes. I am at the moment fresh out of ideas on the subject.
[20:09] <babalu> it's ok thanks
[20:09] <babalu> i'll tell you what i did in a few days if i get the answer
[20:10] <genii-around> babalu: Ok, cool
[21:29] <cbb> hello everyone
[21:30] <Joit> hello cbb
[21:31] <cbb> has anything interesting happened lately?
[22:31] <Daskreech> cbb: Microsoft released a linux product :-o
[22:43] <Avihay> Daskreech: what product is dat (that)?
[22:43] <Daskreech> Skype :)
[22:44] <Avihay> doh!
[22:44]  * Avihay smacks himself in the forhead
[22:48] <camilo> hello, when auto mounting an external disk I only have read only access,a ny one  had same issue?
[22:51] <graft> anyone know how to setup ubuntuone on kde?
[22:54] <camilo> have you try http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+One+Dolphin+Plugin?content=152035
[22:55] <graft> no
[23:01] <dmcoxfree> whats up with thw windows installer telling me metalink and therefore ISO not found?
[23:04] <dmcoxfree> whats up with thw windows installer telling me metalink and therefore ISO not found?
[23:06] <dmcoxfree> if the metalink does not point to a valid downloadable file whats the point in Ubuntu or any other window manager
[23:07] <dmcoxfree> whats up with thw windows installer telling me metalink and therefore ISO not found?
[23:07] <dmcoxfree> if the metalink does not point to a valid downloadable file whats the point in Ubuntu or any other window manager