/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/11/#ubuntu-arb.txt

george_eDoes anyone know if either of these issues will be a problem?01:37
PaoloRotoloSalve06:02
PaoloRotoloGood morning06:04
PaoloRotoloHi popey06:34
popeyhello PaoloRotolo06:34
dholbachgood morning06:49
PaoloRotolodholbach, Good morning!06:51
dholbachciao PaoloRotolo06:52
dholbachhey dpm06:52
dpmmorgen dholbach06:52
PaoloRotolohi dpm :)06:53
dpmciao PaoloRotolo06:53
PaoloRotolo:D06:53
PaoloRotolodholbach, please, can you tell me what is the difference between "needs review" and "Waiting on Developer" on Trello?06:57
dpmPaoloRotolo, I assume 'needs review' is waiting for an ARB contributor to look at the app, whereas 'waiting on developer' means the ARB is waiting for the app developer to answer or act on something they've asked him/her to do07:09
PaoloRotolodpm, ok, thanks!07:11
PaoloRotolodpm, btw, some apps aren't in the app-contributor branch07:12
PaoloRotololike "Day journal" https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/999/07:13
dpmPaoloRotolo: dholbach might be better able to help you on this one ^07:13
dholbachlp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/dayjournal07:14
dholbachuse https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-reviews/+branches instead of https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-reviews - it's a LP bug that it only shows 100 branches07:15
PaoloRotolodholbach, excellent, thanks!07:27
dholbachbrb07:31
vibhavWhat is the section "Waiting on Developer" for?07:34
PaoloRotolovibhav, hi, I've asked the same  question 10 minutes ago :D07:36
PaoloRotolo"<dpm> PaoloRotolo, I assume 'needs review' is waiting for an ARB contributor to look at the app, whereas 'waiting on developer' means the ARB is waiting for the app developer to answer or act on something they've asked him/her to do"07:36
vibhavah, thanks PaoloRotolo07:38
PaoloRotolovibhav, you're welcome07:39
vibhavAlso, Ive seen some applications on trello with the tag "Has PPA" , from where do I get the application's PPA?07:42
vibhavtaking scopy as an example07:42
vibhavhttps://trello.com/card/scopy/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba/4507:42
dholbacha lot of the app submissions on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/ have a link to the PPA07:43
dholbachparticularly the ones which were submitted in the last 3 weeks :)07:43
PaoloRotolovibhav, the Scopy's ppa is in the feedback: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/944/feedback/07:44
vibhavdholbach: Could you include this link in http://pad.ubuntu.com/PHDShTbnFi ?07:45
dholbachof course07:45
vibhavthanks07:46
dholbachit's a bit brain-dead that we keep all the info in 3 different places07:46
dholbachbut that's largely because the submission process is brain-dead as well07:46
vibhavyup07:46
vibhav:D07:46
dholbachI hope that once we got through the majority of the queue, we can have a nice discussion about how we all agree that there should just be one autoritative branch per app and we don't care about submitted tarballs or PPAs, etc :-P07:47
vibhavheh07:48
vibhavooo. we have a xkcd-veiwer too!07:50
vibhavdoes dh_python2 require debhelper (>=8) ?07:54
dholbachmost apps have debian/compat set to '8'07:54
dholbachso in that case you might want to bump the debhelper build-dep to >= 8 anyway07:55
vibhavhrm, scopy after a tried dh_python2 transitions FTBFS's with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085827/ ? Any idea why?08:13
dholbachwhat kind of transition?08:15
dholbachvibhav, just for your information - this app was not part of the competition (it was sent in a month ago)08:16
dholbachso if you want to review it, go ahead - but I think it'd be best if we try to review the contest apps first, as they've been so many08:17
PaoloRotolodholbach, sorry, I've a empty changelog line in "Dayjournal"... What I should do?08:18
dholbachjust put "Initial release" in there if it generally looks in a good state and you might get it up to vote08:19
PaoloRotolodholbach, ok, thanks08:19
dpmok, final count for the contest - 139 valid submissions08:37
vibhav:O08:37
vibhavcool08:37
dpmthat's awesome :)08:38
PaoloRotolodpm, so... 139 t-shirt :D?08:44
dpmand 2 laptops and 3 smartphones :)08:45
PaoloRotolodpm, 6 smartphones, whit the community prize ;)09:45
dpmPaoloRotolo, exactly, well spotted :)09:45
dholbachI'll have a look at "Dark Secret Software"09:54
dholbachcan somebody please add http://pad.ubuntu.com/PHDShTbnFi to the topic and remove the appssprint?10:04
* dholbach has a look at Houston10:06
* dholbach has a look at OrthCal10:17
dholbachsalut didrocks10:35
dholbachhi OwaisL10:35
didrockshey dholbach ;)10:35
OwaisLdholbach, hey!10:35
OwaisLdholbach, So I've question about pushing updates to the ppa before showdown is over.10:36
OwaisLCan I mention a specific version on the submission page to be reviewed and push fixes for users?10:37
dholbachdpm, ^?10:37
dholbachOwaisL, I merely help with getting a version included in the Ubuntu extras repository10:37
dholbachOwaisL, and there we can accept whatever version you're happy with10:37
dholbachthe competition is a bit separate10:38
dpmOwaisL, for the jury vote we'll be looking at the version that was submitted on the deadline, otherwise you'd have an unfair advantage. Feel free to push to the PPA, though. We've recorded the package version on the deadline and judges will be judging on that one, not on the latest. Does that make sense?10:39
OwaisLdpm, yep! thanks for the clarification.10:40
dpmOwaisL, no worries and good luck in the contest! :)10:40
OwaisLthanks man10:41
* dholbach has a look at Picsaw10:42
dholbachhum10:43
dholbachI'm suddenly not sure it's part of the contest10:43
dholbachdpm, ^?10:43
dpmdholbach, I thought it was, what makes you think it's not?10:44
dholbachhave a look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1102/10:44
dpmdholbach, can't see anything unusual, other than Robert submitted it10:45
dholbachany indication of "I participate, etc."?10:45
dholbach:)10:45
dholbachbecause I didn't see it10:46
dpmdholbach, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/arb/packages/2012/06/entry.txt10:46
dholbachouch10:46
dholbachok10:46
dholbachnevermind10:46
* dpm hugs dholbach10:46
dholbachand another app ready for review11:22
* dholbach has a look at Klout11:25
* dholbach has a look at blubphone11:34
* dholbach has a look at journey11:48
dholbachyes, another app ready for vote! :)11:51
dholbachdpm, 'human task' is missing on your list11:52
dholbachseems the submitter made a mistake and 1) ended up in the commercial list, 2) added the "my ppa is XXXXXXXX" file to the submitted tarball11:53
dpmdholbach, bummer :(11:53
dpmI thought I had added it though11:53
dholbachhttps://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1124/11:53
* dpm rechecks11:53
dpmdholbach, it's on the spreadsheet already11:54
dpmphew11:54
dholbachoh, then I must have missed it somehow11:54
dpmdholbach, it's underneath 'Houston'11:55
dpmon row 3611:55
dholbachok, I'll review it11:55
dpmcool11:55
* dholbach has a look at ppasc12:08
dholbachtime for a break12:16
* coolbhavi gives dholbach a cup of coffee12:18
dholbachthanks coolbhavi12:23
coolbhavi:)12:23
* dholbach has a look at Easy Stopwatch12:36
* coolbhavi looking at ppasc12:37
dholbachcan anyone please help this guy: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1055/feedback/?12:47
dholbachI have no idea about any of this12:47
dholbachdpm, what to do about https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1062/feedback/?12:48
coolbhavidholbach, do we use dep-5 spec for apps or the latest spec for d/copyright?12:49
dholbachit seems that it was largely requested12:49
dpmdholbach, hm a though one. But the app must comply with the app review guidelines to qualify, so we should probably disqualify it :/12:50
coolbhavidholbach, hm thanks :)12:50
dholbachdpm, I'll leave that to somebody else12:52
dpmdholbach, I can take care of disqualifying it from the ARB feedback12:52
* coolbhavi wonders what does dholbach eat for lunch.... Superman stuff :)12:54
dholbachcoolbhavi, I didn't have lunch yet and it's raining right now, so I guess I'll hold off for a bit :)12:55
dholbachcoolbhavi, AFAIK the ppasc debian/copyright is how it should be12:56
* dholbach has a look at python-trainer12:57
coolbhavidholbach, yes but I got confused looking at some reviews yesterday12:57
coolbhavisorry for that12:57
dholbachno no, it's fine :)12:58
coolbhavidholbach, it seems you dint commit tar.gz for picsaw13:15
coolbhavis/seems/seems like*13:16
dholbachcoolbhavi, err14:08
dholbachdamn it - I imported it from the ppa14:10
dholbachlet me see what I can do14:10
coolbhavidholbach, np I just downloaded it and voted on it14:16
dholbachcoolbhavi, I'll let you know14:16
coolbhavisure dholbach14:17
coolbhavidpm, I marked you again on one of app submission queries I got...14:17
dpmthanks coolbhavi, I'm afraid we'll have to disqualify that one. We are trying to be flexible, but 3 days past the deadline is a bit too much...14:21
dholbachcoolbhavi, fixed14:22
dholbachif you do a   bzr bd -- -S   it should generate a suitable source package for you14:23
dholbachdidrocks, maybe mterry and you can do a review of an app or two too so you can see what needs fixing in quickly :-D14:27
dpmcoolbhavi, replied14:28
didrocksdpm: I'm really more than busy right now :/14:30
didrocksdholbach: ^14:30
* didrocks fed up with PS14:30
* dholbach hugs didrocks14:30
* didrocks hugs dholbach back14:31
dholbachhey mterry14:33
mterryhi14:33
dholbachhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/PHDShTbnFi is roughly what we're doing right now :)14:33
dholbachsomebody from the ARB, mhall119, paolorotolo or asomething should be able to help if I'm not there14:34
dpmwendar, I'm going to disqualify 'BooruView' as per the feedback on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1062/feedback/ - do we have explicit documentation on why the content is not suitable? The ARB guidelines point to the CoC, but I don't recall seeing any section on appropriate content in there14:34
mhall119dholbach: I added to the etherpad what to do about the crashdb.conf14:42
dholbachmhall119, cool14:43
dholbachdo we need to update something in the arb-lint description?14:43
coolbhavithanks dpm14:45
dpmcoolbhavi, the guy seems to be persistent, he's just sent me the same e-mail he originally sent you14:46
mhall119dholbach: only if it's something that may continue to be a problem14:46
mhall119if it's a quickly issue that's been or being fixed, then I'd say don't worry about it14:46
dholbachmhall119, I think I added something about it to the arb-lint already14:46
dholbachmhall119, and we have some bugs filed for it too14:46
mhall119I'm going to start adding new cards to the "Needs Review" queue14:47
coolbhavidpm, your reply was clear but sorry I shouldnt have marked you in that case14:47
dpmcoolbhavi, no, you did fine, it just seems the guy didn't bother reading my reply14:48
dpmand I talked to him on IRC a couple of days ago also14:48
dholbachhey bilal, how are you doing? :)14:48
coolbhavihmm14:48
PaoloRotoloHi all!16:05
PaoloRotolodholbach, hi. Thanks for the membership of the app review board contributors group on Launchpad :D16:08
dholbachPaoloRotolo, now you should be able to make changes in myapps on your own, I think16:15
dholbachfor those of you who are wondering what all the apps in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/+archive/ppa/+packages are supposed to be: I put them in there because they wouldn't build (missing libglib2.0-bin build-dep), so the jury for the app contest can install the packages more easily16:17
PaoloRotolodholbach, no, I can't...16:18
dholbachreally?16:18
dholbachthat's weird16:18
dholbachmaybe you need to log out and log back in again?16:18
dholbachin myapps16:18
* dholbach has a look at DeskWiki16:19
PaoloRotolodholbach, oh, it works after log out :D16:19
PaoloRotoloThanks again!16:19
dholbachprego16:19
PaoloRotolo:D16:19
* dholbach has a look at Tastebook16:29
dholbachstgraber, does usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/it.robol.tastebook.gschema.xml look like it's acceptable?16:36
stgraberdholbach: well, the guidelines explicitly allow use of gconf/dconf, so I suppose we have to allow the schemas too for it to make sense... I don't really like the fact that we can't namespace the schemas per package name16:39
stgraberdholbach: ideally I'd prefer com.ubuntu.extras.<package name>, but that'd require changes to the "upstream" code16:39
dholbachyes, I understand16:45
dholbachok16:45
dholbachthanks16:45
* dholbach has a look at Dime Calc17:36
dholbachhow are all the reviewers doing? :)17:37
* dholbach has a look at Indicator Stickynotes17:56
dholbachah, hm, maybe that's not part of the competition?17:57
* dholbach has a look at Shopping Calculator then17:57
* dholbach has a look at Radiowave18:07
dholbachalright, time to call it a day - see you all tomorrow18:21
asomethinghmmm... anyone know how often dholbach importer runs? just started reviewing an app and see that it is out of date compared to the ppa which built 22 hours ago20:29
wendarajmitch,highvoltage: next time dpm is online, the answer to dpm's question about BooruView is in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines, though not clearly worded23:57
ajmitchwendar: ok, will try & pass it on :)23:58
wendarajmitch,highvoltage: for american audiences we could spell it out as "all content is PG rated"23:58
wendarI don't have a good international way to say that, though23:58
ajmitchthough for booruview, it's a bit of a grey area since the app is a viewer for content that may or may not be ok23:58
wendarand we can't say "non-offensive" since that's pretty relative23:59
wendarajmitch: aye, we talked about it with the last booru viewer that was submitted23:59

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