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| janimo | ogra_, marvin24 did the 3.1 kernel issue have something in common with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/936667 ? | 15:33 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 936667 in upstart "Upstart early job logging causes boot failure for systems with no initramfs (error is "No available ptys")" [High,Fix released] | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | janimo, well, we always have an initrd | 15:34 |
| janimo | any news on that particular nvidia kernel issue? | 15:34 |
| janimo | ogra_, is that still holding up quantal ac100 images? | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | and that bug is fixed since mid-precise | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | no, what was holding up was my time to fix ac100-tarball-installer and additionally research the oops i get on boot | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | the installer is fixed now | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | tomorrow if i have new images i'll move on with the kernel issue | 15:36 |
| janimo | ogra_, kernel oops on install or first boot? | 15:36 |
| janimo | ok | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | sadly ui cant quickly roll images manually atm | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | we only have one builder thats constantly occupied | 15:36 |
| janimo | is that a regression? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | janimo, first boot, some initrd issue i think | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | we dropped all non panda HW from the datacenter | 15:37 |
| janimo | I thought the builder situations was only going to get better | 15:37 |
| janimo | ah, a good move otherwise | 15:37 |
| janimo | and not enough new pandas? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | and until tere is a new mandabox server we only have one machine for livefs builds | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | i think we have a lot of new pandas, but someone needs to set them up | 15:38 |
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| hrw | ogra_: build iamge at home? | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | no, thanks, i have better stuff to do than to set up the ubuntu build infrastructure at home | 15:51 |
| * GrueMaster has the infrastructure, but no loinger has the time or desire. | 16:22 | |
| janimo | the fact our build insfrastructure is so involved as opposed to dead-simple live-build means noone can really take over properly without too much effort | 16:28 |
| marvin24 | janimo, ogra_: I hope the console can be fixed soon | 16:33 |
| marvin24 | otherwise we need to boot with console=tty1 as a workaround | 16:33 |
| marvin24 | janimo: did you tried to compile a 3.5 kernel for tegra already? | 16:34 |
| janimo | marvin24, no, since Iheard from you it has no graphics :) | 16:37 |
| marvin24 | it has, but a bit buggy | 16:39 |
| marvin24 | maybe still makes no sense to try it | 16:40 |
| janimo | I may give arm-soc a try - it has more tegra stuff than 3.5 | 16:40 |
| janimo | I just saw too many kernel tree lately that don't even build, so I am not too attracted to yet another one | 16:41 |
| janimo | :) | 16:41 |
| marvin24 | janimo: yes, me too :-) | 16:42 |
| janimo | lilstevie, do you know anything about the status of the 3.1 jhinta kernel for tf101? It sort of boots here, but hangs on starting network manager | 16:47 |
| janimo | the xda forums are horrendous | 16:48 |
| marvin24 | I wonder if tf101 also has the console problem | 16:48 |
| janimo | marvin24, I had to boot with --no-log | 16:50 |
| janimo | marvin24, , otherwise not sure how the console problem manifests itself, I did not boot ac100 with 3.1 yet | 16:51 |
| janimo | it just prints out the kernel logs, then starting init and a few scripts, pausing on NM | 16:51 |
| marvin24 | yes, it oopes shortly after entering userspace boot | 16:51 |
| marvin24 | but looks random | 16:52 |
| janimo | no oops on screen and no ramconsole built in this kernel | 16:52 |
| marvin24 | is plymouth installed? | 16:52 |
| janimo | marvin24, yes. Should I make it -x ? | 16:53 |
| janimo | meanwhile I'll rebuild the kernel with ramconsole on | 16:53 |
| marvin24 | no, it hangs here only with plymouth installed | 16:54 |
| marvin24 | but uninstall is also only a workaround | 16:55 |
| janimo | marvin24, iirc ogra said making lib/plymouthd or some unexecutable is a workaround | 16:55 |
| marvin24 | yes, or add console=tty1 | 16:55 |
| marvin24 | and leave it executable | 16:55 |
| janimo | marvin24, do you know if tegra2 kernels can support multiple hw from the same build? Ie. ventana, harmony, ac100, tf101 all built in? | 16:56 |
| janimo | marvin24, thanks, I'll try that too | 16:56 |
| janimo | will that redirect console output to somewhere invisible? | 16:56 |
| marvin24 | the kernel does, but the bootloader doesn't | 16:56 |
| marvin24 | janimo: yes | 16:56 |
| marvin24 | in mainline, everything will depend on device tree | 16:57 |
| marvin24 | so you can boot the same kernel on all tegras | 16:57 |
| marvin24 | but we ee | 16:57 |
| marvin24 | ... need uboot for this | 16:57 |
| marvin24 | uboot passes device tree to the kernel (same kernel for all) | 16:58 |
| marvin24 | I don't know how other archs are doing it now | 16:58 |
| janimo | marvin24, in 3.1 there's no device tree yet afaik | 16:58 |
| marvin24 | yep, only in mainline | 16:58 |
| * janimo wonders if a single zImage could be used on both ac100 and tf101 | 16:58 | |
| marvin24 | sure, add tf101 to mainline | 16:59 |
| marvin24 | or add a device-tree | 16:59 |
| marvin24 | as I said, *all* tegras (tegra2 and tegra3) should be bootable from a single kernel | 17:00 |
| janimo | so with current 2.6.x/3.0 non-DT, what is uboot specific in the kernel? I see nothing in what I build for in the confis | 17:00 |
| janimo | configs | 17:00 |
| janimo | marvin24, yes in mainline, I was wondering pre-DT where we are and will likely still be in 12.10 | 17:00 |
| marvin24 | the current bootloader (fastboot) does not support device trees | 17:00 |
| marvin24 | while u-boot does | 17:00 |
| marvin24 | so, mainline + u-boot or fastboot + 3.1 | 17:01 |
| marvin24 | (uboot can also boot 3.1 kernels) | 17:01 |
| marvin24 | but hw support is not finished | 17:01 |
| marvin24 | we have to wait - again :-( | 17:02 |
| marvin24 | but regarding DT support, tegra is pretty complete | 17:02 |
| janimo | marvin24, chmod -x /sbin/plymouthd made it boot into X. will try console= too thanks! | 17:09 |
| marvin24 | janimo: good | 17:10 |
| janimo | marvin24, do you think it is a nvidia kernel bug? | 17:10 |
| marvin24 | yes, I talked to an engineer from nvidia | 17:11 |
| marvin24 | and he was able to reproduce it on ventana (tegra2 dev board) | 17:11 |
| marvin24 | could also be ubuntu related ... | 17:11 |
| janimo | do they plan to address it in 3.1? | 17:11 |
| marvin24 | but the kernel shouldn't oops | 17:11 |
| marvin24 | janimo: yes | 17:11 |
| janimo | possibly, ubuntu userspace is a bit different | 17:11 |
| marvin24 | we tried to track it down (and still try) | 17:12 |
| marvin24 | janimo: I will request a new kernel build when it's fixed ;-) | 17:13 |
| janimo | marvin24, sure ;) | 17:14 |
| janimo | marvin24, back to the previous issue - the idea of single image for multiple kernels is _dependent_ on device tree? Since in menuconfig you can check any number of arches to support | 17:14 |
| marvin24 | with "arches", do you mean omap, tegra, ... | 17:15 |
| marvin24 | or boards? | 17:15 |
| marvin24 | you can select different boards, but our bootloader is buggy and does not accept multi-board kernels | 17:16 |
| marvin24 | janimo: no idea what tf101 bootloader does | 17:17 |
| janimo | marvin24, afacit just takes an android bootimg and starts it :) | 17:17 |
| janimo | like the ac100 one, not sure about details | 17:18 |
| janimo | marvin24, ah so the ac100 bootloader would choke on a kernel image that has any other board than paz00 enabled too? | 17:18 |
| janimo | I meant just tegra2 based ones (paz00 and tf101 in particular) | 17:18 |
| marvin24 | in fact, no one knows what it does | 17:22 |
| marvin24 | s*y | 17:22 |
| marvin24 | I had the impression, that the bootloader reads the machine-id from the kernel and feeds it back to the kernel | 17:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: howdy pardner | 19:12 |
| prpplague | greetings | 19:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: found time to look at the video i told you? | 19:13 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: sorry no, yesterday was crazy i had some car troubles from the previous afternoon | 19:13 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: can you give me the link again? i have it at home | 19:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: ah kay... hope you got things roted out? | 19:13 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: yea | 19:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | sorted out, even :/ | 19:14 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: i had the car worked on friday, turns out they put one of the nuts back on without the cotter pin | 19:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | aw :( | 19:14 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: damn near got killed by a large truck on monday afternoon after the front passenger tie rod came off while i was cross an highway intersection | 19:15 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufBCoHP-8Yk&list=UUXHs7mzjNipr-xp1Bps2zew&index=2&feature=plcp | 19:15 |
| * prpplague looks | 19:16 | |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: you said about 50 seconds in? | 19:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: interesting part is from 0:55 onwards or so. | 19:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: glad nothing bad happened then | 19:16 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: this video is work safe correct? | 19:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: totally yes. | 19:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: its from an educational fair near me. | 19:17 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: ahh dandy! | 19:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: and inside that rc car is a panda :) | 19:18 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: yea i think those guys were in cambridge a while back at ELC | 19:18 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: with an early prototype of the design | 19:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: will meet those guys sometime in the next two weeks probably, was really surprised there are other panda users in this small town. | 19:20 |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: hehe | 19:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | prpplague: btw got one or two minutes for private? | 19:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | (just noticed we're not even in #pandaboard) | 19:22 |
| * prpplague checks the time | 19:22 | |
| prpplague | LetoThe2nd: yea, got about 5-10 mintues | 19:22 |
| smplman | does anyone know where i can find the status of the SGX drivers on a BB XM running 12.04? | 21:04 |
| smplman | and audio also | 21:04 |
| xranby_ac100 | smplman: check the linaro website | 22:32 |
| xranby_ac100 | smplman: all the latest linaro releases are based on 12.04 with improved kernels and drivers where available | 22:32 |
| xranby_ac100 | smplman: sorry i think i gave you bad advice.. they only support the pandaboard nowdays | 22:34 |
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