=== prp^2 is now known as prpplague === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === jkridner__ is now known as jkridner === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === calculu5 is now known as calculus === jeremiah_travel is now known as jeremiah [08:45] .c === jkridner__ is now known as jkridner === zyga is now known as zyga-food === zyga-food is now known as zyga === prpplague is now known as prp^2 [15:33] ogra_, marvin24 did the 3.1 kernel issue have something in common with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/936667 ? [15:33] Ubuntu bug 936667 in upstart "Upstart early job logging causes boot failure for systems with no initramfs (error is "No available ptys")" [High,Fix released] [15:34] janimo, well, we always have an initrd [15:34] any news on that particular nvidia kernel issue? [15:34] ogra_, is that still holding up quantal ac100 images? [15:35] and that bug is fixed since mid-precise [15:35] no, what was holding up was my time to fix ac100-tarball-installer and additionally research the oops i get on boot [15:36] the installer is fixed now [15:36] tomorrow if i have new images i'll move on with the kernel issue [15:36] ogra_, kernel oops on install or first boot? [15:36] ok [15:36] sadly ui cant quickly roll images manually atm [15:36] we only have one builder thats constantly occupied [15:37] is that a regression? [15:37] janimo, first boot, some initrd issue i think [15:37] we dropped all non panda HW from the datacenter [15:37] I thought the builder situations was only going to get better [15:37] ah, a good move otherwise [15:37] and not enough new pandas? [15:37] and until tere is a new mandabox server we only have one machine for livefs builds [15:38] i think we have a lot of new pandas, but someone needs to set them up === zyga_ is now known as zyga [15:51] ogra_: build iamge at home? [15:51] no, thanks, i have better stuff to do than to set up the ubuntu build infrastructure at home [16:22] * GrueMaster has the infrastructure, but no loinger has the time or desire. [16:28] the fact our build insfrastructure is so involved as opposed to dead-simple live-build means noone can really take over properly without too much effort [16:33] janimo, ogra_: I hope the console can be fixed soon [16:33] otherwise we need to boot with console=tty1 as a workaround [16:34] janimo: did you tried to compile a 3.5 kernel for tegra already? [16:37] marvin24, no, since Iheard from you it has no graphics :) [16:39] it has, but a bit buggy [16:40] maybe still makes no sense to try it [16:40] I may give arm-soc a try - it has more tegra stuff than 3.5 [16:41] I just saw too many kernel tree lately that don't even build, so I am not too attracted to yet another one [16:41] :) [16:42] janimo: yes, me too :-) [16:47] lilstevie, do you know anything about the status of the 3.1 jhinta kernel for tf101? It sort of boots here, but hangs on starting network manager [16:48] the xda forums are horrendous [16:48] I wonder if tf101 also has the console problem [16:50] marvin24, I had to boot with --no-log [16:51] marvin24, , otherwise not sure how the console problem manifests itself, I did not boot ac100 with 3.1 yet [16:51] it just prints out the kernel logs, then starting init and a few scripts, pausing on NM [16:51] yes, it oopes shortly after entering userspace boot [16:52] but looks random [16:52] no oops on screen and no ramconsole built in this kernel [16:52] is plymouth installed? [16:53] marvin24, yes. Should I make it -x ? [16:53] meanwhile I'll rebuild the kernel with ramconsole on [16:54] no, it hangs here only with plymouth installed [16:55] but uninstall is also only a workaround [16:55] marvin24, iirc ogra said making lib/plymouthd or some unexecutable is a workaround [16:55] yes, or add console=tty1 [16:55] and leave it executable [16:56] marvin24, do you know if tegra2 kernels can support multiple hw from the same build? Ie. ventana, harmony, ac100, tf101 all built in? [16:56] marvin24, thanks, I'll try that too [16:56] will that redirect console output to somewhere invisible? [16:56] the kernel does, but the bootloader doesn't [16:56] janimo: yes [16:57] in mainline, everything will depend on device tree [16:57] so you can boot the same kernel on all tegras [16:57] but we ee [16:57] ... need uboot for this [16:58] uboot passes device tree to the kernel (same kernel for all) [16:58] I don't know how other archs are doing it now [16:58] marvin24, in 3.1 there's no device tree yet afaik [16:58] yep, only in mainline [16:58] * janimo wonders if a single zImage could be used on both ac100 and tf101 [16:59] sure, add tf101 to mainline [16:59] or add a device-tree [17:00] as I said, *all* tegras (tegra2 and tegra3) should be bootable from a single kernel [17:00] so with current 2.6.x/3.0 non-DT, what is uboot specific in the kernel? I see nothing in what I build for in the confis [17:00] configs [17:00] marvin24, yes in mainline, I was wondering pre-DT where we are and will likely still be in 12.10 [17:00] the current bootloader (fastboot) does not support device trees [17:00] while u-boot does [17:01] so, mainline + u-boot or fastboot + 3.1 [17:01] (uboot can also boot 3.1 kernels) [17:01] but hw support is not finished [17:02] we have to wait - again :-( [17:02] but regarding DT support, tegra is pretty complete [17:09] marvin24, chmod -x /sbin/plymouthd made it boot into X. will try console= too thanks! [17:10] janimo: good [17:10] marvin24, do you think it is a nvidia kernel bug? [17:11] yes, I talked to an engineer from nvidia [17:11] and he was able to reproduce it on ventana (tegra2 dev board) [17:11] could also be ubuntu related ... [17:11] do they plan to address it in 3.1? [17:11] but the kernel shouldn't oops [17:11] janimo: yes [17:11] possibly, ubuntu userspace is a bit different [17:12] we tried to track it down (and still try) [17:13] janimo: I will request a new kernel build when it's fixed ;-) [17:14] marvin24, sure ;) [17:14] marvin24, back to the previous issue - the idea of single image for multiple kernels is _dependent_ on device tree? Since in menuconfig you can check any number of arches to support [17:15] with "arches", do you mean omap, tegra, ... [17:15] or boards? [17:16] you can select different boards, but our bootloader is buggy and does not accept multi-board kernels [17:17] janimo: no idea what tf101 bootloader does [17:17] marvin24, afacit just takes an android bootimg and starts it :) [17:18] like the ac100 one, not sure about details [17:18] marvin24, ah so the ac100 bootloader would choke on a kernel image that has any other board than paz00 enabled too? [17:18] I meant just tegra2 based ones (paz00 and tf101 in particular) [17:22] in fact, no one knows what it does [17:22] s*y [17:31] I had the impression, that the bootloader reads the machine-id from the kernel and feeds it back to the kernel [19:12] prpplague: howdy pardner [19:12] greetings [19:13] prpplague: found time to look at the video i told you? [19:13] LetoThe2nd: sorry no, yesterday was crazy i had some car troubles from the previous afternoon [19:13] LetoThe2nd: can you give me the link again? i have it at home [19:13] prpplague: ah kay... hope you got things roted out? [19:14] LetoThe2nd: yea [19:14] sorted out, even :/ [19:14] LetoThe2nd: i had the car worked on friday, turns out they put one of the nuts back on without the cotter pin [19:14] aw :( [19:15] LetoThe2nd: damn near got killed by a large truck on monday afternoon after the front passenger tie rod came off while i was cross an highway intersection [19:15] prpplague: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufBCoHP-8Yk&list=UUXHs7mzjNipr-xp1Bps2zew&index=2&feature=plcp [19:16] * prpplague looks [19:16] LetoThe2nd: you said about 50 seconds in? [19:16] prpplague: interesting part is from 0:55 onwards or so. [19:16] prpplague: glad nothing bad happened then [19:16] LetoThe2nd: this video is work safe correct? [19:16] prpplague: totally yes. [19:17] prpplague: its from an educational fair near me. [19:18] LetoThe2nd: ahh dandy! [19:18] prpplague: and inside that rc car is a panda :) [19:18] LetoThe2nd: yea i think those guys were in cambridge a while back at ELC [19:18] LetoThe2nd: with an early prototype of the design [19:20] prpplague: will meet those guys sometime in the next two weeks probably, was really surprised there are other panda users in this small town. [19:22] LetoThe2nd: hehe [19:22] prpplague: btw got one or two minutes for private? [19:22] (just noticed we're not even in #pandaboard) [19:22] * prpplague checks the time [19:22] LetoThe2nd: yea, got about 5-10 mintues [21:04] does anyone know where i can find the status of the SGX drivers on a BB XM running 12.04? [21:04] and audio also [22:32] smplman: check the linaro website [22:32] smplman: all the latest linaro releases are based on 12.04 with improved kernels and drivers where available [22:34] smplman: sorry i think i gave you bad advice.. they only support the pandaboard nowdays