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dscasselMass call! crond FiReSTaRT azend cyphermox genii-around johanbr mars willwh bilal DarwinSurvivor IdleOne khoover ryanakca wylde_ BobJonkman Jaguar KombuchaKip sipherdee zul bregma egerlach Jaguar LinuxMonkey txwikinger200:00
dscasselMeeting time!00:00
dscasselhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2012-07-1000:00
dscassel^- agenda00:00
* genii-around stops googling00:00
dscasselFeel free to introduce yourselves.  Who are you, where are you and what do you do on/for/with Ubuntu?00:01
dscasselI'm Darcy in Waterloo and I'm LoCo Contact for Ubuntu Canada.00:01
BobJonkmanHi!  I'm Bob Jonkman, an Ubuntu enthusiast in Elmira, just north of Waterloo00:02
hakimsheriffHi, I'm Hakim Sheriff, I'm in Montreal00:02
dscasselHi Hakim. :)00:02
hakimsheriffhey00:02
genii-aroundI'm Mike in Toronto, I do a lot of user help mostly in #kubuntu but also other channels, a bit of inept moderating in some channels, hold the Toronto release parties00:02
KombuchaKipHey folks. My name's Kip and I'm UVLC's representative today.  UVLC just released their second Unity guide for 12.04 LTS which covers Lenses & Scopes. They're also working on a new free commercial game for Ubuntu called Avaneya (www.avaneya.com). We're also working on another "thing", but related to Ubuntu and audio - but top secret for now ;)00:03
dscasselHey, genii-around, KombuchaKip :)00:03
* KombuchaKip waves at dscassel00:03
BobJonkmanAgenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2012-07-1000:04
dscasselI'll give another minute or two for any straglers to wander in.00:05
* genii-around makes a fresh pot of coffee and hands the mugs around00:05
dscasselOkay.00:06
dscasselsingpolyma: Can you tell us about your workshop tomorrow? :)00:07
singpolymaSure.00:07
singpolymaSo, I'm going to set up a bunch of PC boxes in KWartzlab, which are all blank HDDs.  I'm going to have a bunch of Ubuntu 12.04 CDs, and I'm going to invite workshop participants to walk along with me through the process of installing Ubuntu 12.04 on a PC.  This will involve basic magics such as gettinga PC to boot from a CD, understanding basic partitioning concepts, etc00:08
dscasselAwesome.00:08
BobJonkmanCan participants bring their own computer for an install?00:09
singpolymaBobJonkman: Certainly, if they actually want a PC installed that would make sense00:09
dscasselSo kinda an install fest, but with more theory and background...00:09
singpolymaRight. The big different from an install fest is that I'm targetting understanding by novices of the existance of OSs and booting from CDs, and not so much targetting having people actually walk away with a working Ubuntu system00:10
singpolymabut if people want a working Ubuntu system, it's a great opportunity for that as well00:10
dscasselSadly I can't be there, but I think it's a great thing.00:11
BobJonkmanDo you need assistants?00:11
jlamotheI don't know if I'll be able to be there (I was hoping to) can someone take lots of pictures for the blog?00:11
dscasselI want to write up something afterwards for a blog post or something...00:11
* dscassel then skeptically wonders if he has time in the next week or so00:12
dscasselSo, great! Thanks, singpolyma.00:13
singpolymaBobJonkman: assistants would be appreciated, but it will depend on how many people tehre ary00:13
* BobJonkman has another thing until at least 8:00pm, so not sure how useful that limited assistance would be00:13
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IdleOneEvening folks00:14
jlamotheGreetings and salutations.00:15
IdleOnesingpolyma: that sounds like a great idea and fun too00:15
dscasselFor the next meeting and subsequent meetings, I want to move the meeting immediately before the Waterloo Ubuntu Hour.00:15
dscasselHi IdleOne!00:15
IdleOneheya dscassel :)00:15
dscasselSo the next one will be Wednesday, August 15 at 7pm EDT.00:16
txwikingerhi00:16
BobJonkmandscassel: How convenient for me!00:16
hakimsheriffWorks for me too00:16
dscasselBobJonkman: And me! I keep getting distracted at Kwartzlab.00:16
dscassel(which is where I am now)00:16
jlamotheWhere?00:16
dscasseljlamothe: ssh.00:17
BobJonkmanUbuntu Hour Waterloo is currently being held at the Duke of Wellington in Waterloo00:17
BobJonkmanhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ca/1827/detail/00:17
dscasselBobJonkman: But that might change in the future... Not that I have any better ideas right now. :)00:18
genii-aroundI'll be on vacation but there may be some form of internet there00:18
IdleOnewhere ya going and can i come?00:19
IdleOneactually, I don't care00:20
genii-aroundIdleOne: Apsley, Ont00:20
IdleOnecan I come no matter where it is00:20
genii-aroundIs a family thing00:20
IdleOneIn that case I will not intrude00:20
* IdleOne walks away crying a little bit and mumbling something about gonna get him for this.00:21
genii-aroundHeh00:21
dscasselIdleOne: I'm going to Disney World next week.  I'll be a little occupied with a friend's wedding, but hey, if you can make your way down there...00:21
IdleOneCan't do that either. Homeland Security and me don't get along so much00:21
BobJonkmanThe only objection I can see to making the IRC chat an hour earlier is that it's still business hours on the West Coast (4:00pm PDT)00:22
dscasselKombuchaKip: Is that a problem? (You may speak for your time zone).00:22
dscasselSpeaking of Ubuntu Hours, we're still running with just the two in Kitchener and up the road in Waterloo.00:24
txwikingerWho is getting marred at Disney World? Mickey Mouse?00:24
KombuchaKipdscassel: I think he is right, but then nearly any time we pick will be inconvenient for some timezone. For myself though, it isn't an issue.00:24
dscasseltxwikinger: No, but they've been known to wear the ears occasionally.00:24
txwikingerdscassel: Not sure the ears will go through the TSA00:26
genii-aroundAnything on for Global Jam?00:26
txwikingerLot of global and lot of jamming genii-around00:27
dscasseltxwikinger: That's why they're in checked baggage.00:27
dscasselgenii-around: I've got a conflict that weekend, but yeat, it's Sept. 7-9.00:27
genii-aroundtxwikinger: I was wondering if we specifically have plans yet :-)00:27
txwikingerohah.. explosive ears in the baggage00:27
genii-aroundMaybe I could do something here with Sammy00:28
txwikingergenii-around: Historically we always had some kind of plan .. so probably yes00:28
dscasselWe'll be doing something Sept 8, probably, but that's not official yet.00:28
dscasselgenii-around: You should do something with Sammy. :)00:28
genii-aroundOK ( makes notes )00:29
* txwikinger looks in calendar and sees an open spot 00:29
genii-aroundSomeone yelling, be back if it's not some real emergency ( I'm still at work )00:29
dscasselHardware install testing is helpful, if nothing else.00:30
BobJonkmanI may have occasion to be in Toronto, what with the school year starting and young 'uns needing to be ferried to Uni00:30
dscasseltxwikinger: Are you free to run it?  I may be need to be in and out doing other stuff.00:30
txwikingerdscassel: Yeah.. I should be free00:30
dscasselExcellent.00:30
txwikingeri can keep the children behave00:31
dscasselHey, BobJonkman, What's Sysadmin Appreciate Day?00:32
dscasselhttp://www.sysadminday.com/whatsysadmin.html00:32
dscasselAnd why does the person in the photo look like they've hanged themselves on cat 5 cable?00:32
BobJonkmanSystem Administrators look after computer stuff.00:32
BobJonkmanMost people who use that computer stuff don't realize what a stressful job it is looking after it.  SysAdmins must feel underappreciated 364 days of the year (and 365 days this year)00:33
txwikingerIts a bit like teachersfeel00:34
BobJonkmanSurely there must be some System Administrators who look after Ubuntu-running computers.00:34
genii-aroundBack00:34
dscasselI'm sure there might be a couple.00:34
dscasselBobJonkman: Is there something you'd like to do to celebrate?00:36
BobJonkmanFunny you should ask. In the KW area I'm organizing a SysAdminDay dinner.  http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2012/07/10/system-administrator-appreciation-day-dinner/  Mostly just so us SysAdmins can have a chance to swap stories over an eggroll or several.00:36
jlamothegenii-around: Nobody was on fire?00:36
genii-aroundBobJonkman: I'm out of town July 16-22 and Aug 11-18 but if yer around otherwise, feel free to visit!00:37
genii-aroundjlamothe: Luckily not!00:37
BobJonkmangenii-around: Hopefully there'll be some Ubuntu Jamming in Toronto on the weekend of 8 September00:37
txwikingerCanonical has a lot of sys admins for that00:38
genii-aroundI'll try to line something up. If nothing else maybe the basement here, I can use a space about 2000 sq feet for whatever i want00:38
dscasselThe other coming-up thing is Software Freedom Day, September 15th.00:39
dscasselI don't know if there's anything I can do about that quite yet.00:40
genii-aroundHopefully RMS stays somewhere far away...00:40
txwikingerNot sure if working centre is doing something again00:40
BobJonkmanI think The Working Centre is feeling a bit strapped for resources.  And Computer Recycling is no longer open on Saturdays00:41
txwikingerFreedom day and global jamming should really be at the same time00:41
dscasselgenii-around: Don't be like that. RMS is a lovable beligerant, the definition of the radical extreme who allows me to be the mushy middle.00:41
dscasselI appreciate that.00:41
BobJonkmanIf it weren't for RMS all the rest of us would look like radicals00:42
dscasseltxwikinger: They're pretty different events, really.00:42
txwikingerBobJonkman: You look like a radical in any case ;-)00:42
genii-aroundOK, I'll lay off the Stallman :-)00:42
jlamotheAlso, if we don't have the radicals like RMS, the radicals like Jobs take everything over.00:42
txwikingerdscassel: Yeah.. but some people have a life beyond Ubuntu00:42
dscasseltxwikinger: Tell me about it. That's why I'm hoping the KWLUG people pick up the SFD slack.00:43
dscasselAnd I can maybe drop by with CDs or something.00:43
genii-aroundOh, reminds me to check GTALUG sched00:43
txwikingerdscassel: I probably do my own SFD in June 2013 :-D00:43
* dscassel hums the free software song to himself.00:44
BobJonkmangenii-around: missed it, TLUG is meeting nwo...00:44
genii-aroundYup00:44
BobJonkman/nwo/now00:44
txwikingerdscassel: You hum very loud.. I can hear you00:44
jlamothetxwikinger: I can't and I'm the same room.  :P00:45
genii-aroundBobJonkman: I just wanted to hit one or two before global jam or so on, do some PR, etc00:45
txwikingerjlamothe: I have better hearing than you ;-p00:45
jlamothetxwikinger: I won't dispute that.00:46
* jlamothe has terrible hearing.00:46
dscassel<15min left.00:47
dscasselHm...00:47
dscasseltxwikinger: How's that website going?00:47
* genii-around ponders team reports00:47
BobJonkmanGood news on the Team Reports front: I've been poking at them; April-June are done.  Still need Nov-Mar  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/TeamReports00:48
txwikingerI do not think anything has been done yet00:48
dscasselgenii-around: I'm wondering about them too.00:48
txwikingerI have to look if I find something for drupal7 but I think most Ubuntu stuff is now on wordpress00:48
genii-aroundBobJonkman: Yay! Progress00:48
BobJonkmanTeam Reports are actually easier to do than IRC Meeting Minutes00:49
jlamotheBobJonkman: Can't you just use a log?00:49
txwikingerA lot of bureaucracy for a couple of CDs00:49
BobJonkmanjlamothe: There's an Ubuntu Meeting bot, but it requires that the meetings be very formal and strictly run.00:50
BobJonkmanI don't think that's in our nature00:50
* jlamothe wears his pants on his head.00:50
jlamotheNope.00:50
genii-aroundIf there's anything i can do that might take like 1/2hr-1hour a day weekdays to help, lemme know. I'm usually just sitting here online00:50
dscasseltxwikinger: I think the main thing is giving people access.00:51
txwikingergenii-around: change the drupal6 theme to drupal700:51
txwikingerWell. if people ask me I try to satisfy them00:51
IdleOneBobJonkman: The bot doesn't require it but it can be used to do very "business" like meetings.00:51
txwikingerI have given several people the drupal6 theme but nobody has come back00:52
genii-aroundtxwikinger: I don't know anything about drupal but i could set up a test box here and tinker with it first to get familiar00:52
IdleOneBobJonkman: assuming you meant meetingology00:52
txwikingerIf I would have time I could do it... but the last year was crazy and this summer will be even crazier00:52
BobJonkmanAnyway, by reading the IRC log and summarizing manually, I get to write the future history of the Canadian Team00:52
BobJonkmanIdleOne: That's the one00:53
txwikingerfuture history? Nice oxymoron00:53
IdleOneBobJonkman: yeah, you can use it as formal as you like.00:53
jlamothetxwikinger: I believe they call it the present.00:53
jlamothe...or less distant future.00:54
* dscassel is currently distracted. Poke me if you need me specifically.00:54
txwikingerjlamothe: the present is evading me all the time00:54
genii-aroundLinuxMonkey: How goes in Moncton?00:54
BobJonkmanSomehow, there always seems to be more history than future.00:54
BobJonkmanIdleOne: If you can invite Meetingology to attend one of our IRC meetings, we can see how it works00:55
* BobJonkman is not sure how to make that happen00:55
IdleOneBobJonkman: request has been placed00:56
txwikingeridleone can do that IIRC00:56
BobJonkmanCool!  Thanx, IdleOne!00:56
IdleOneBot should join soon as the owner wakes up or notices the request. He may require a team lead to approve the request for officialness00:57
IdleOneAlanBell is the owner btw, you can find him around #Ubuntu*land00:58
dscasselThanks, IdleOne :)00:58
IdleOneSure thing.01:00
dscasselIt's 9pm (my time) so that probably wraps things up.01:01
IdleOneor beer time+401:01
dscasselRenewal doesn't happen until November, probably, so we have time to put that off another month.01:01
txwikingerAnd cut!01:01
dscasselBut feel free to keep chatting. :)01:01
BobJonkmanShould we plan to panic soon for the Canadian Team LoCo renewal?01:01
genii-aroundI sure as hell hope not01:02
BobJonkmanAh.  Reading slower than I'm writing01:02
dscasselBobJonkman: We can wait to panic until after 12.10.01:02
BobJonkmanI'll put it on the Event Schedule :)01:02
dscasselHurray!01:02
* genii-around starts thinking already now about 12.10 release plans01:03
BobJonkmanFSOSS is in October too: http://fsoss.ca01:03
txwikingerDo they have info for this year already>01:04
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BobJonkmanThe http://fsoss.ca/2011 page has info for 2012 dates01:04
txwikingerNo Satuday this time01:05
genii-aroundHm, 12.10 release and FSOSS overlap01:06
genii-aroundIdleOne: So maybe we try it next meeting?01:19
IdleOnegenii-around: if we can get it in here01:25
genii-aroundOK01:25
IdleOnewhich i am pretty sure we can01:25
genii-aroundhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology for the interested01:26
hakimsheriffK i gotta go everyine01:27
hakimsheriff*everyone01:27
hakimsheriffBye!01:27
* genii-around waves to hakimsheriff01:27
IdleOneFor anybody who cares wiki.ubuntu-women.org has been fixed and no longer being reported as an attack site by google.15:03
crondsadly, I am not a woman, so that doesn't help me much15:12
IdleOneBobJonkman: :)15:54
IdleOnewiki.ubuntu-women.org has been fixed and no longer being reported as an attack site by google.15:54
IdleOnecrond: I don't even...ok.15:54
genii-aroundHeh. I'm imagining now crazed Ubuntu women on the attack.....15:54
BobJonkmanHi IdleOne: Thanx for the update.16:58
IdleOneoh, btw meetingology is here too19:31
IdleOne#startmeeting This is a test19:31
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Jul 11 19:31:38 2012 UTC.  The chair is IdleOne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.19:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired19:31
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam channel | http://www.ubuntu-ca.org/ | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Forum: http://canada.ubuntuforums.org/ | S.V.P utilisez #ubuntu-qc pour soutien en français | Channel logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Meeting info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings | Next meeting 15 August 4:00pm PDT, 7:00pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT | This
IdleOne#topic This is a topic test19:31
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam channel | http://www.ubuntu-ca.org/ | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Forum: http://canada.ubuntuforums.org/ | S.V.P utilisez #ubuntu-qc pour soutien en français | Channel logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Meeting info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings | Next meeting 15 August 4:00pm PDT, 7:00pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT | This
IdleOne#endmeeting19:32
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam channel | http://www.ubuntu-ca.org/ | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Forum: http://canada.ubuntuforums.org/ | S.V.P utilisez #ubuntu-qc pour soutien en français | Channel logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Meeting info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings | Next meeting 15 August 4:00pm PDT, 7:00pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT
meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Jul 11 19:32:10 2012 UTC.19:32
meetingologyMinutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2012/ubuntu-ca.2012-07-11-19.31.moin.txt19:32
meetingologyMinutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2012/ubuntu-ca.2012-07-11-19.31.html19:32
genii-aroundIdleOne: I was in #meetingology last night tinkering with JoseeAntonioR, then watched them have a meeting using it in #xubuntu-devel this morning19:38
IdleOnethe bot has lots of features that might not be needed for the meetings in here but one that is handy is the minutes it generates :)19:39
IdleOneeasy to copy paste and email19:40
genii-aroundYes. Also the minutes link also has the "full logs" link embedded so you can then just go there if something is unclear19:40
IdleOneyup19:41
IdleOneoh, it also makes them wiki friendly19:42
genii-aroundIdleOne: If you check http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2012/xubuntu-devel.2012-07-11-15.04.html  you can see how they are using it in there, and compare the minutes it made to the full log and see how pleia, knome etc used it in the channel19:43

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