=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === webpigeon is now known as Guest58433 === webpigeon is now known as Guest7093 [07:15] good morning everyone. [07:19] hello brobostigon and anyone else watching this window/tab [07:19] hello dwatkins [07:28] morning all :) [07:38] morning [07:38] anyone used remote desktop with virtualbox? it implies you can RDP to a VM from another host but it doesn't seem to enable for me. [07:39] I have "Enable server" and port 3389 set in virtualbox [07:39] but the port isn't open [07:39] you might have to do port stuffs to enable it, popey - I vaguely remember doing that for ssh [07:39] its on the LAN [07:39] what do you mean by "port stuffs" [07:40] popey: effectively allowing the port to be forwarded by its NAT virtual firewall [07:40] ...or is it bridged? [07:40] no, you remote to the host IP [07:40] so the documentation says [07:41] I assume it's enabled in the guest OS [07:41] no [07:41] its not a feature of the guest [07:41] its a feature of virtualbox [07:41] oh that, it's a different port, iirc [07:41] it says 3389 [07:41] but remmina on the box next to it can't connect [07:41] "Unable to connect to RDP server 10.10.10.131" [07:42] does it even initiate the connection if you telnet to that IP/port? [07:42] no [07:42] yet its "enabled" in virtualbox [07:42] and I have guest additions installed [07:42] if you use the cmdline VBoxManage option to show options, is vrde on? [07:43] I don't have a machine here, but that shouldn't be too difficult to find in its --help options [07:46] "Even when the extension is installed, the VRDP server is disabled by default. It can easily be enabled on a per-VM basis either in the VirtualBox Manager in the "Display" settings (see the section called “Display settings”) or with VBoxManage" [07:46] its enabled in the menu and in the settings dialog [07:47] Morning all [07:48] I wonder if the entire service needs restarting for it to take effect, popey [07:49] http://popey.com/~alan/vbox.png [07:49] perhaps.. [07:50] nope [07:50] gonna just vnc to the guest, i know that will work :( [07:50] yeah :-/ [07:50] I wonder if x11vnc works on the RPi yet... [07:52] haha, oops [07:52] vnc to the guest IP gets me VNC to the host! [07:52] sounds like it's NAT'ed [07:52] bridged [07:52] oh, no, wrong IP :D [07:52] perhaps there's MAC address wierdness [07:52] ahhh [07:53] crashed virtualbox :D [07:53] ouch [07:53] erp [07:54] right, that doesn't work, i presume because of the guest extensions [07:54] sheesh [07:54] * popey moves the VM to this machine to run locally [07:54] I should probably upgrade the RAM in my netbook to run VirtualBox. [07:54] We use vmware at work, so I don't have VB here. [07:58] oddly i just downloaded virtualbox from their website, clicked the deb, software center opens and shows me the wrong screenshot [07:58] * popey files a bug in USC [07:58] what's the screenshot then?:o [08:02] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/109808270/Selection_101.png [08:02] askubuntu lens [08:03] heh [08:11] popey: wouldn't it be the IP address of the host you'd use to connect to the console of a guest? [08:11] yes [08:11] thats what I did [08:12] ah ok, curioser and curioser, perhaps you have RDP enabled already and the port conflicts [08:14] i gave up :) [08:14] scp the vdi to another machine [08:14] fair enough [08:14] ...and the rain comes down [08:14] I was waiting for the kettle to boil, watching out the window in a meeting room, and someone walks in asking if I've booked the room for the day... [08:23] Good morning peeps :) [08:24] hiya bigcalm === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:35] Good morning all! :) [08:39] Good morning [08:46] morning all [08:50] anyone seen that ouya android under TV PC announced on kickstarter? [08:51] problem is ,by the time it's out, there will probably be plenty other decent options too [08:51] oimon: I can give you a box which runs android for your tv tomorrow [08:52] similar to this? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console [08:57] I saw it yesterday... it looks pretty damn cool [08:58] Mar 2013 as well is the shipping date they are going for... I think they can keep ahead if they hit that [08:59] i want a sub £99 arm box under my telly [08:59] but more powerful than a rasp pi [09:00] i'm reaaaaaaaaaly unconvinced about ouya [09:01] oimon: You can buy the tablet boards with ICS on them with out the tablets [09:02] "Congratulations! Your account is now enabled for uploads longer than 15 minutes." This is a special day :) [09:03] hi. i am trying to access a samba share on a virtual machine from windows 7. i could browse as a guest but when i switch off gues mode, i cannot authenticate. do i need to add a user on the linux side with the same name as my windows user? [09:05] codecowboy: that's one way. The other is to login to the share using different credentials [09:05] bigcalm: thanks. no credentials i use seem to work :( [09:06] bigcalm: i did smbpasswd with an existing user [09:08] You may have to enter the username as WORKGROUP\username [09:11] i fixed this *exact* problem a few weeks ago [09:11] it would be helpful if i remembered how [09:11] gord: stopped using cifs? [09:12] gord, did it involve a regedit hack? [09:12] noo, it was on the ubuntus side [09:12] That shouldn't be required [09:12] got your / and \ the right way round? [09:14] does an entry exist in the DNS for both machines? === webpigeon is now known as Guest46782 [09:14] oimon: codecowboy can connect as a guest [09:16] codecowboy: i think i used system-config-samba to fix it somehow [09:17] bigcalm, i would expect the authentication to be different though, and may rely on correctly resoving the hostname [09:17] maybe a dump of the smb.conf would help [09:23] nooo its not that [09:23] i fixed this, nothing in smb.conf fixes it [09:25] * Monotoko facepalms [09:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7biXXMkek # skip to 1:25 for the action to start [09:25] I swear.. if I get one more buggy PHP module from my bosses indian devs -.- [09:25] PHP's supposed to be buggy! [09:25] It's how we make money [09:26] it's a database system! They gave me a flat file module that I can't track -.- [09:26] so I'm having to create an ad-hoc way to try and track which themes are being used where [09:29] gord: does any of this sound familiar? http://askubuntu.com/questions/19361/cant-access-ubuntus-shared-folders-from-windows-7 [09:30] nooo [09:38] hello [10:00] whenever i think i look a bit rough, i check chris moyles wikipedia page and remind myself than he is only 1 yr older than me [10:01] stupid ctrl-w [10:01] was trying to close the wikipedia page.. [10:05] grr [10:06] why aren't generated and saved passwords reconciled in lastpass >:( [10:08] how can i map ctrl-alt-L to lock my screen in cinnamon :-\ [10:22] Might be of interest to folks tomorrow, http://blog.launchpad.net/general/maas-webinar [10:23] it ain't a maas demo unless somebody trips over a cable [10:28] monkeys as a service? never going to end well [10:28] it is a grand project trying to reproduce shakespeare [10:29] why use monkeys, when there are a load of out-of-job pigeons? [10:29] i hear google use pandas now, not pigeons, to do their search ranking [10:32] well, nobody knows the behaviour of infinite numbers of pigeons [10:32] whereas monkeys are well studied [10:33] "it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times" === webpigeon is now known as Guest75446 [10:41] gord: dont supopse you remember the windows7 issue? i have been busy trying everything under the sun and rebooting, still no luck [10:41] use system-config-samba to fix it [10:42] i don't know what it is, but that is what i used [10:43] gord: i dont have that. i am using a server VM, not a gui. [10:43] well then i don't know how to fix it [10:44] Anyone know why I might be able to browse a samba share from windows 7 but not be able to authenticate? [10:44] gord: ok thanks [11:18] Laney: so true, that was the best product demo evar [11:19] I was certainly sold [11:19] shame they cut the trip [11:19] it is a shame so much was cut [11:19] it lives on in our hearts [11:19] Daviey is a hero [11:21] thanks chaps. :) [11:21] Daviey: do you have the unedited video? [11:21] prep'ing a demo at runtime is always good. [11:21] lazy evaluation [11:21] AlanBell: not for public consumption. [11:21] so thats a yes then [11:22] Daviey bottom line was the demo *worked* even with all the funny bits [11:26] u1 files isn't working on my android :( [11:26] anyone else have this issue? [11:27] cannot sign into u1 [11:28] oimon: error here [11:29] aquarius: what have you broken? [11:31] i've tried 1) device > Settings > Manage applications > Ubuntu One Files > Force close, Clear app data 2) device > Settings > Accounts & sync > remove the Ubuntu account 3) device > Settings > Date & time > Automatic -- checked 4) relaunch Ubuntu One Files [11:31] still not working [11:31] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/ [11:31] LOL [11:35] oh, the whole of u1 is shagged [11:36] pretty sure they have a channel [11:36] #ubuntuone [11:39] pretty sure they know about it though [11:43] you're much more likely to find informed people there rather than here === webpigeon is now known as Guest39613 [11:48] oimon: That was commented on in #ubuntu, it was working for some people, just not for others [12:04] how can I get the user id and group id [12:05] uid [12:05] gid [12:05] er [12:05] id [12:05] :D [12:05] dogmatic69: type id [12:05] i _always_ think it's uid then type it and go "oh yeah" and type id [12:06] nice, thanks === webpigeon is now known as Guest28507 [12:07] laney@raleigh> uid ~/dev/ubuntu/packaging/random/emacs24 [12:07] zsh: correct 'uid' to 'id' [nyae]? [12:07] ^_^ [12:09] haro [12:10] boo [12:12] what is the affect called, where in both of the earth hemispheres, water flows opposite? [12:12] * Laney is distressed that he forgot to start this 10 hour build (over ssh) under screen [12:12] brobostigon: do you mean the corolis effect? [12:13] coriollis? [12:13] * Laney spulling ez hrd [12:13] thank you Laney , yes, :) [12:13] Laney, what is this arm lunacy you are building? [12:13] ghc [12:13] !info ghc [12:13] ghc (source: ghc): The Glasgow Haskell Compilation system. In component universe, is extra. Version 7.4.1-1ubuntu2 (precise), package size 40485 kB, installed size 196973 kB [12:13] sorry to trouble anyone/everyone, who might know : I've just put a pc together using an Asus P8H61 motherboard and immediately installed ubuntu on a new 500gb sata3 hd, but the live cd came up really sluggish, but, regardless, I went ahead and still installed it, however, its still not running as it should. system is slow to respond basically. Any advice/insights on the matter, please? [12:13] oh [12:13] yeah, that! [12:14] livingdaylight, what video card? [12:14] testing a bootstrap, although the unstoppable adam conrad will have to pres butan in the end [12:14] popey, the motherboard comes with its own onboard graphics. I haven't installed a dedicated card [12:15] livingdaylight, what CPU? [12:15] popey, i3 2120 [12:15] some intel thing by the look of it? [12:15] bah, raid rebuilding is gonna take hours, dumb slow spinning things [12:15] livingdaylight, open a terminal, run top, see whats eating cpu? [12:15] livingdaylight, how much RAM does it have? [12:16] popey, 8gb on 1 stick [12:18] livingdaylight, soo.. top? [12:19] popey, maybe this reveals something : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/toplvg.png/ [12:20] not especially [12:20] can you be more specific about the issue? [12:21] clicking on things long delays; for eg the update icon on panel [12:22] define long [12:22] sluggish.... either not responding or long delay [12:23] can you quantify it? [12:23] with new i3 and 8gb or ram I expect to be flying [12:23] livingdaylight: how many seconds to start libreoffice writer? [12:23] AlanBell, 4 seconds [12:23] thats good [12:23] that is pretty quick [12:24] guys, it seems to be picking up speed [12:24] the update icon will be downloading tons of stuff and blocking on your network connection I expect [12:24] I trust I connected all the wires right on the motherboard etc [12:25] Ok, due a reboot due to updates including kernel, brb [12:25] THANX [12:26] haha [12:26] first boot, was probably building caches and stuff [12:29] seems that when I respond to the update notification on panel it doesn't respond. I have to go through power button and ask it to install updates [12:31] another 'restart' [12:41] I now have the system not responding to my mouse. It only enables me to launch programs, but for instance, when I launched FF and tried to open a new tab, I couldn't. Or when launching X-chat I wanted to go to edit to add ubuntu-uk to the default list of rooms and again, couldn't. Its as if screen froze. I just put new batteries in this wireless mouse. [12:42] can not even open the workspace switcher now [12:46] After a new build does one have to first insert the accompanying dvd to the motherboard? or should it be ok to immediately install Ubuntu? [12:49] id go for install [12:50] livingdaylight, does it work fine from the keyboard? [12:51] i.e. if you press the windows/super key, do you get the dash pop up quickly? [12:51] if you open a text editor like gedit, and type do the keystrokes appear quickly? [12:51] I wouldn't do a clean install given you've only just installed this, thats a brute force approach which won't solve the issue [12:51] popey, keyboard works fine. Roles have reversed. Before it was the keyboard that the system was sluggish in responding to. [12:52] * popey goes to a meeting... [12:52] mouse is not launching anything anymore. Only allows me to swtch rooms withing xchat [12:54] re: clean install. I was referring to the fact that I installed Ubuntu before doing anything on this fresh built-system including first inserting the motherboard's accomanying dvd. Maybe, that would install necessary drivers etc to make subsequent installation of os more smooth-running. [12:56] * bigcalm wonders if popey will make it out alive [13:03] hmm... just discovered that this wordpress site is really slow if two people try to use it at the same time [13:11] * BigRedS wonders if that SQLite wordpress backend was such a good idea after all [13:12] BigRedS: / bigcalm : Know if pear Mail package is dependant on anything apart from sendmail being installed to work ? [13:12] diplo: I've no idea. I always end up swearing when I use PHP [13:13] diplo: shouldn't be dependant on anything [13:14] :( [13:14] I want to blame this on something else :) [13:14] diplo: you want it to be dependant on something? [13:14] 1st step: can you send email from the box by other means? [13:15] No, still on this old php4 code [13:15] 2nd step: do you have access to an SMTP relay? [13:15] Got 99% working, and email was the last thing [13:15] 3rd step: what does `which sendmail` give you? [13:16] mail command is not installed, but sendmail is up and running, so haven't tested it per se from local box [13:16] Suppose I should just install it and test [13:16] you should be able to simply pipe into it [13:16] that's what php does [13:16] hang on [13:16] I've used the Mail.php package loads of times and never had issues before :P [13:16] /usr/sbin/sendmail [13:17] diplo: https://gist.github.com/3090340 [13:17] will try debuginfo i guess [13:17] that sort of thing [13:17] ok, will try ta [13:18] I like that, didn't know you could do it like that [13:18] It works [13:18] So defo the php code :/ [13:19] * diplo delves deeper [13:28] rah found it, that took longer than expected [13:30] What was wrong? [13:45] Sorry got called awat [13:46] Umm from address was being grabbed from a session id that didn't exist so had @domain.com [13:46] and so failed [13:49] haha [13:49] I just spent a while fixing a problem like that [13:49] which reminds me. What're current favourites for bugtrackers? [13:49] Needs to look management-friendly and also let me interact with it by email [13:50] ideally interact with SVN and Git repos, too, just to make it harder [13:51] BigRedS: I happily use trac [13:52] BigRedS: trac comes with built in support for svn. git support with a plugin (not yet tested) [13:52] BigRedS: trac will send out emails, I don't know if it will receive emails - not something we've needed [13:54] bigcalm: cool, ta! Looks management friendly, too [13:55] receiving email's isn't *that* necessary [13:55] I'm just looking to replace both ad-hoc emails and a mediawiki-based to-do list [14:02] if you like email, you want debbugs :-) [14:02] (you probably don't like email as much as it wants you to, though) [14:03] haha, no, I don't want it to look like email [14:06] but more pertinently I want something that measn the people who currently email me and/or edit that wiki page can file proper bugs without too much goading [14:16] BigRedS: redmine is working for me on a project right now [14:16] you can put issue numbers in git commit messages and it then does the right thing with them and links to the issues [14:17] AlanBell: how 2007! [14:18] Ew. Redmine? [14:18] We have customers running that... [14:18] * mattt likes redmine [14:24] Yeah, I think we've had too much trouble with that in general for me to be able to persuade anybody that using it is a good idea [14:31] Gah. Why does everything insist on writing times in its own definition of human-readable in it's logs. This is what epoch timestamps are for [14:33] Daviey: yeah, it isn't rocket science I guess === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:42] AlanBell: trac does the commit message to ticket number linking as well [14:42] And you can reference a revision number in a ticket which will then link [14:42] what is the best way to rsync www-data files to a smb share as a different user? [14:42] yeah, trac is quite good, I have used that before [14:42] the main reason I picked redmine this time was that I hadn't used it [14:43] eg: I am logged in as dogmatic69 and need to rsync www-data files to smb://whatever. 'rsync: chgrp foo/bar failed. Permission denied' all the time [14:43] the folder is mounted with uid=1000,gid=1000 (dogmatic69:dogmatic69) and I am in the www-data group [14:44] all the files are g+rw for wwww-data:www-data [14:44] BigRedS: the other possibility is to use launchpad or github commercial project stuff [14:45] we kind of like it being on our own infrastructure though [14:45] AlanBell: yeah, this needs to be internal [14:45] aside from anything else I want it to talk to an SVN repo that has no outside access [14:45] currently most of my stuff's on github [14:45] wonder if launchpad will support git one day [14:46] don't they keep releasing bzr propaganda? [14:46] BigRedS: I recently got gitlab working (open source version of github). It's very nice :) [14:46] oooh [14:46] * popey wonders if chrisccoulson knows the answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/162268/adding-x-scheme-handler-without-a-popup-in-firefox :D [14:47] gitlab is nice! [14:47] really, _really_ nice [14:47] BigRedS: happy to give you an account if you want to give it a try [14:47] bigcalm: I am interested [14:47] AlanBell: ok :) [14:47] bigcalm: it looks easy enough to install, I might just do that actually! :) [14:48] BigRedS: go for it :) [14:48] it has the popey stamp of approval [14:48] Heh [14:48] [APPROVED] [14:48] BigRedS: I have not seen any bzr stuff or documentation updates for a long time [14:48] Oh, I'm sure someone posted a "Here's why bzr is better than git" thing a few weeks back [14:48] AlanBell: pm me an email address you like to use for things :) [14:49] maybe not launchpad, just not sure who else that I follow would do that [14:49] either way, it gets asked for a _lot_; I've no idea how easily bzr and git can coexist on teh same repo [14:49] bigcalm: alanbell at ubuntu.com [14:50] AlanBell: user created. You should have been sent a welcome email. If not I'll give you login details here [14:53] Humm, I have a feeling that queues aren't being processed [14:53] AlanBell: have you had a welcome email yet? [14:54] bigcalm: nope [14:54] Ok, ta. I shall poke things [14:54] that address goes to gmail, it isn't there yet [14:55] Know anything about redis? I can see things in queues that aren't moving [14:56] I'm supposed to be installing it this afternoon [14:56] but that's all I know about it :) [14:56] Heh, more than me :D [14:59] Heh, stopping and starting gitlab kicked out 3 emails and 39 other jobs [14:59] AlanBell: yhm (I think) [15:00] Yikes [15:01] My gitlab home page looks quite different now :D [15:01] haha [15:04] bigcalm: yeah, I have a mail, you might want to fix that homepage ;) [15:05] AlanBell: the login screen? [15:07] BigRedS: You probably want to send me your irssirc :D [15:09] AlanBell, wassup with the home page? [15:10] popey: drop the port number [15:10] sweet! [15:10] Heh, no, not really [15:10] I need to do a redirect [15:10] n1md4: the pertinent line is ignores = ( { level = "JOINS PARTS QUITS"; } ); [15:14] gitlab is rather nice [15:15] :) [15:16] AlanBell: feel free to make a project and use it as you want [15:16] In fact, I believe that the default is 10 projects per new account [15:16] AlanBell: go wild ;) [15:20] that is very very much like github [15:20] looks and works nice [15:20] * AlanBell wishes launchpad would look a bit more presentable [15:20] :) [15:30] AlanBell, patches welcome ;) [15:31] Heh [15:31] Is LP in LP? [15:31] bzr branch lp:launchpad [15:31] * popey assumes [15:31] launchpad is kinda big [15:31] blame gmb [15:32] Blame Zope. [15:32] Zope on a rope? [15:32] If I had my way, yes. [15:32] :D [15:32] Sadly, six years of hysterical raisins means that we're stuck with the bugger. [15:33] But yes: bzr branch lp:launchpad is the ticket. [15:33] Better yet, https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting [15:33] so the stylesheet such as it is appears to be https://launchpad.net/+icing/rev15593/combo.css [15:34] and there is an inline style block on the homepage [15:38] * AlanBell wonders how long bzr branch lp:launchpad is going to take [15:39] $TIME [15:39] and whether the css is actually in that [15:39] heh, i think the only thing with a longer bzr history might be lp:bzr ;) [15:39] you can use the web code browser thingy to see the contents right now though [15:40] yeah, I had a look round and couldn't find it [15:40] I dunno how to search using that [15:41] from the url, +icing suggests that its generated [15:41] so instead I will get my laptop to give launchpad a kicking downloading launchpad then use grep [15:41] + is normally a python command [15:41] yeah, I figured the +icing meant something like that [15:41] just wonder if that is stored in a separate project [15:52] df -h [15:53] -su: df: command not found [15:54] /dev/irc 38TB 38TB 0B 100% / [15:54] IIRC, kvirc came with a terminal window. Most strange [15:55] we have filled up the inter [15:55] AlanBell: psh, you have tiny internets [15:55] With just 38TB? [15:56] any idea on how to fix up smb permission problems [15:56] wonder if df knows about exabytes [15:57] my df still does stupid linebreaks :( [15:57] and I've still not got the hang of terminator :) [15:58] 2 hours until I head off to the LUG. 2.5 hours until I get some yummy surf and turf [15:58] That's odd, where's davmor2? [15:58] I wonder if he'll turn up tonight [16:03] gord: did you see I made you a new video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7biXXMkek - 24 hours worth in 5m37s [16:04] fantastic :P [16:04] Dawn is at about 1:25 [16:05] But the real fun starts at about 4:00 [16:07] Today's sky has been more interesting. So the video I make tomorrow shall be too :D [16:22] ali1234: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-960-000767-C920-HD-Webcam/dp/B006A2Q81M/ref=pd_sim_computers_1 is this the camera I need to get? [16:23] ah, good question [16:23] i've read some people complaining that the C920 is not as good as the C910 [16:23] they are still both very good though [16:24] 920 has a tripod mount which sounds useful [16:24]