=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:11] Need to know if anyone is using Ubuntu 12.04 on AMD X2 260 [05:11] having speed issues [05:12] First time I click on a browser icon in Unity, it takes about 20 secs to open [05:15] * Kilos greets all of you [05:19] Maaz, coffee on [05:19] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [05:23] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:23] Maaz, thanks man [05:23] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [05:23] no bunch man me only === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg === hodgecola is now known as Hodgestar [06:34] hey SmilyBorg [06:34] Hey there === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [06:58] yo Trixar_za [06:58] Hey Kilos [06:59] lol times change hey? used to be if you said hey to someone they answered yes or wondered what they did wrong [07:02] Only in Cape Town. They spontaneously greet you in Pretoria [07:02] Which is a little unsettling at first [07:02] lol [07:02] weve become too americanised [07:04] Probably. In the cape, anybody that does that you automatically assume is 1.) a Begger, 2.) a Mugger or 3.) Both [07:04] rofl where are you? [07:05] Brackenfell in the Western Cape [07:05] :P [07:05] lol [07:14] hi smile [07:15] good morning, Kilos :) === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [07:27] morning superfly [07:38] i'm doing vandalismebestrijding :p how is that called in english? :p [07:38] ^^ [07:39] anti vandalism [07:40] ? [07:54] vandalism prevention [07:54] easily done, kill the vandals [07:54] Hahaha [07:55] Morning Kilos [07:55] Kilos: booked the hospital for #2, we're having *another* july birthday [07:57] yay superfly thats wonderful news [07:57] thanks for sharing [07:58] Kilos: I knew you'd want to know [07:58] good morning al [07:58] *all [07:58] yo charl [07:59] charl: is this the time you get up?! Lazy! :-P [07:59] he will say he studied till late [08:00] Kilos: of course... "studied" :-P [08:00] lol [08:00] i go move sheep and repair fences bbl [08:00] * superfly will be back later, Cape Town station approaches [08:01] superfly: nope i have been in the office for more than an hour, just busy [08:08] Kilos: no, not prevention :p [08:08] after they done something :p [08:36] good mornings! [08:41] hiya sflr [08:44] hey superfly! [08:47] morning all [09:07] hi sflr [09:07] morning [09:24] Squirm: hi [09:35] hi notsf [09:35] yo Squirm [09:36] * Squirm eyes Kilos [09:36] nlsthzn, you back [09:36] hehe [09:37] hi sflr [09:42] Maaz, coffee on [09:42] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:42] * Kilos greets inetpro [09:45] Maaz: coffee please [09:45] charl: Okay [09:46] hi inetpro, Kilos [09:46] Coffee's ready for Kilos and charl! [09:47] Maaz: thanks [09:47] charl: Sure [09:47] Maaz, ty [09:47] You are welcome Kilos [09:47] alo uncle Kilos ... [10:28] hi :) [11:38] hi smile [11:38] phew busy busy today [11:43] lol [11:43] Squirm, just saw a macro add for tomtom gps [11:46] google tomtom gps in za [11:46] grr [11:46] Maaz, google tomtom gps in za [11:46] Kilos: "South Africa - TomTom, portable GPS car navigation systems" http://www.tomtom.com/?Lid=28 :: "Dónde comprarlo - TomTom, portable GPS car navigation systems" http://www.tomtom.com/stores/ :: "TomTom Go 750 Live - Review - Gps Devices | TechSmart.co.za" http://www.techsmart.co.za/gadgets/gps_devices/TomTom_Go_750_Live_review.html :: "TomTom GO 1000 LIVE - Review - Gps Devices | TechSmart.co.za" http://www.techsmart.co.za/gadgets/gps_ [11:48] charl, you busy? or mocking us [12:04] Kilos: nah i'm seriously busy [12:04] no kidding [12:04] hence spending so little time on irc [12:04] np [12:06] hi charl :) [12:06] today, I'm working on a custom build of chatzilla :) [12:06] it has to be really small :D [12:07] it's for windows :| (because some users don't have the skill to use linux) [12:08] * nlsthzn doesn't have the skill :( [12:09] you don't need skill to use linux [12:10] you need brains to dump windows [12:10] browsing the internet? even my 2 year old can do that [12:10] nlsthzn: :( [12:10] Banlam: but if you can only click on a button you can't use linux ;) [12:11] smile make a small ubuntu build and label it chatzilla mini for windows [12:11] smile, depends on your definition of use [12:14] funny... ubuntu is on a mission to make it so you only have to click on a button... [12:18] Banlam: wel a small ubuntu build would be at least 200MB - I need something like 10MB ;) [12:19] Banlam: well yeah. Being able to install software can be tricky sometimes on linux :p [12:19] I'm working with the source code of chatzilla now :) [12:19] removing all comments first. I don't need those :p [12:20] anyone who knows if there is a plugin for notepad++ for removing comment lines? :p [12:20] lol [12:20] generally people complain when there aren't enough comments [12:20] there are too much xD [12:20] ;) [12:30] we're still running smoothly :) [12:30] (removed all comments in a 6000-line file) :p [12:47] good thing i didnt only discover ubuntu now [12:47] no one has time anymore [12:52] herro peeps, time for what? [12:56] time to help noobs [12:57] hi zeref [12:57] i was bad when i first came here [12:57] now still bad but not as [12:57] hiya maiatoday [12:57] lol [12:58] i think peeps should just be patient, but generally iemand does reply when a questioned is asked, just takes a bit long :P [13:00] yeah but im sure they will all agree that they seem to have all acquired more work that has to be done than 3 years ago [13:00] hi Kilos [13:00] thats how you keep peeps outa trouble. work them to death before the can plan any [13:01] all good maiatoday ? [13:01] yip more or less [13:01] i'm lost, who has acquired more work? [13:01] more is good [13:01] less im not so sure about [13:02] zeref, ask the old hands here [13:02] tumbles crash kid fly pro etc [13:02] the bee [13:03] confluency doesnt even comment anymore [13:04] drussell, even changed nicks so no one would ask him for help [13:04] ohi deegee [13:05] nuvolari, had time to fall off bicycles, no more [13:05] evn Squirm y busy all the time [13:06] ahh, i see [13:06] he used to swim now he walks everywhere [13:08] you only been here 51 weeks and 6 days [13:10] hehe i love that info toy [13:12] Stalker :whistle: [13:15] * superfly is getting even busier soon, with #2 arriving soon [13:16] ha ha ha [13:16] need to get a second wife then superfly [13:17] Kilos: no! that's even MORE work! [13:17] then tween them they look after the kids and fight each other and you have peace [13:18] Kilos: I sincerely doubt that [13:18] haha ask the mormons [13:18] http://www.jpmeijers.com/linux/pi.jpg [13:18] 1MB [13:18] be warned [13:19] ouch what is it Kerbero [13:19] * Kerbero is bragging with Banlam's Pi [13:19] raspberry Pi [13:19] on my TV [13:19] lol [13:20] hello [13:20] 2 mice? [13:20] my Pi should be here in a few days [13:21] DHL confirmed that it was being delivered yesterday [13:21] i actually have a micro itx behind my TV [13:21] with a ps2 mouse [13:21] but the pi neede usb [13:22] whats a pi [13:22] Maaz, google raspberry pi [13:22] Kerbero: "Raspberry Pi | An ARM GNU/Linux box for $25. Take a byte!" http://www.raspberrypi.org/ :: "FAQs | Raspberry Pi" http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs :: "Raspberry Pi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi :: "Raspberry Pi's $35 Linux PC Hits the Streets at Last - PC World" http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/253857/raspberry_pis_35_linux_pc_hits_the_streets_at_last.html :: "Latest Raspbe [13:22] ie, very cheap arm based linux pc [13:23] size of a credit card [13:23] wow [13:23] had to wait months to get it though :/ [13:23] http://gcawood.com/images/forum/IMG_9594.JPG [13:23] whats cheap? [13:23] ^ size [13:23] Kilos: cost R340 [13:24] for a pc? [13:24] mine will be here in about 9 weeks i think [13:24] what all can it do [13:24] essentially [13:24] run linux :P [13:24] it has an ARM processor [13:24] and play full hd video [13:24] so it can't do EVERYTHING [13:24] with usb ports etc? [13:24] 2 usb [13:24] 1 lan [13:24] 1 hdmi [13:25] but there's always room for a usb hub [13:25] :P [13:25] 1 audio + 1 rca (video) [13:26] Kilos: http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs [13:26] 2 images at the top of the page [13:27] Kerbero: I'm thinking of making an RC car out of mine [13:27] or a quad copter. just need to work out how to programatically do it [13:29] uhm [13:29] that's a waste of it [13:29] you can do that with an arduino [13:31] make an Optimus Prime! ;) [13:31] sounds better [13:31] Kerbero: yes [13:31] i'm likely going to use it for my M project [13:31] but I wouldn't know where to start with an Arduino [13:31] low powered computers for in the field use [13:31] and it's better than it landing up as a local file/web server [13:32] Squirm, it will be easier to implement the controll systems for a quadcopter on an arduino [13:32] as our timing will be more acurate [13:33] eh [13:33] I was going to test by attaching one of these to my Pi [13:33] http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1350/resources [13:33] and you use the Pi to send the commands to the servo controller [13:35] problem is, I know nothing about micro controllers and what not [13:36] hmm [13:36] it might work [13:37] was thinking of going RC car/bot first :p [13:37] and load it with certain sensors [13:37] so I can experiment [13:37] along with receiving the commands via a little usb wifi dongle [13:39] because with that servo controller, the pins do I/O [13:39] so test distance sensors, temerature sensors, accelerometes, etc [14:18] nearly hometime guys. hou moed [14:19] Kilos: goeie more [14:19] inetpro, only starts work now [14:19] :-) [14:19] haha talk of the devil [14:20] and he knocks on your door [14:20] Kilos: I just landed here now :-) [14:20] als goed inetpro ? [14:20] goed en daar? [14:20] from where? [14:20] net baie besig [14:20] Kilos: from space [14:21] Kilos: from outer space [14:21] jy beter n gap maak vanaand vir die agenda ne [14:21] hehehe [14:21] eish! [14:21] * inetpro shall try to make some time but can not make promises [14:21] peeps need some time to add agenda items etc [14:21] already tired as it is [14:21] Kilos: BTW, my hen is brooding since about Monday [14:22] mooi man [14:22] is mos brooding? [14:22] 19 dae of so n hele klomp van die goed [14:22] cheers guys [14:22] kan nie wag nie [14:22] I'm off for the next 2 weeks [14:22] chat when I'm back [14:22] Banlam: bye [14:22] cheers Banlam === Banlam is now known as Banlam|away [14:24] sigh inetpro im not sure anymore, she is broody and sitting on eggs [14:24] broeise [14:24] broies [14:24] sjoe [14:24] broeies [14:25] broeis [14:25] dan blerry ding [14:25] lol [14:25] daai [14:26] Kilos: brooding = sitting on eggs so as to hatch them by the warmth of the body [syn: {incubation}] [14:26] not morbid meditation [14:26] well done you were right. amper n engelsman [14:27] Maaz: define brooding [14:27] inetpro: Brood \Brood\ (br[=o]ch), v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Brooded}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Brooding}.] 1. To sit on and cover eggs, as a fowl, for the purpose of warming them and hatching the young; or to sit over and cover young, as a hen her chickens, in order to warm and protect them; hence, to sit quietly, as if brooding. [1913 Webster] Birds of calm sir brooding on the charmed wave. --Milton. [1913 Webster] 2. To have the mind dwell continuo [14:27] lol [14:27] werk nou gou klaar [14:27] anyways my hen is sitting on the eggs for the first time [14:28] haha [14:28] * inetpro can't wait to see them chicks coming outta there [14:28] yeah farming has its ups [14:29] eish, work... /me bbl [14:29] even growing veggies [14:42] ChatZilla is running :) now writing an installer.. :p [14:42] well done [14:42] thanks, Kilos :) [14:43] Kilos: do you have a windows pc? :p [14:43] beside the linux one [14:43] :p [14:44] yeah P3 with win me on and sister with xp [14:44] ok cool :) [14:45] for gaming though [14:46] since my chatzilla will only run on windows (for now) [14:46] :p [14:46] ^^ [14:46] lol i use xchat [14:47] and ian on win7 does too [14:50] ;) [14:51] I'm curious to see how big my install file would be :) [14:54] try it [14:55] well I'm not able yet - first must write a NSIS installer file [14:55] i'm working on it :) [14:55] ah [14:55] it will be between 5 and 20 megabyte :) [14:55] most likely between 5 and 10 :) [14:55] you gonna write 20m of code? [14:56] or even 10m [14:56] no :D the installer script is only a megabyte ;) [14:56] or less. :) [14:56] even thats lots of code [14:56] thats like a book [14:57] some books are 250kBs [14:57] lol! :p [14:57] :) [14:58] Kilos: I generated a list of file names to include and now I'm transforming that list to code :p [14:58] oh not manually [14:59] well the transformation I do manual - the whole file list not (with the dir command on windows) :) [15:00] you have a program to do the work? [15:00] application [15:01] I do have a program, but I have to type by myself ;) the program isn't doing that :p [15:10] only 50 lines to go ;) [15:13] brb [15:13] eating [15:13] : [15:13] :p [17:41] hmmm [17:42] Maaz, seen gc [17:42] Kilos: gc was last seen 2 days, 22 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-07-08 20:46:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-07-09 03:09:14 SAST [17:43] mage is getting slack in his old age [17:43] nuvolari, ping [18:06] hmm hy is bang ons maak hom werk [18:13] evening all [18:13] wb magespawn [18:13] wassup gc [18:13] power failures [18:13] whew [18:13] is your external an LG [18:13] yup. [18:14] makro [18:14] no western digital [18:14] lol [18:14] check out esquire [18:15] ian said they had 1TB drives for 700 [18:15] but you dont need one anymore hey [18:15] that is where I usually buy my hardware. [18:15] ah [18:16] do you know anyone that does upgrading of pcs [18:16] im looking for a lga 775 cpu [18:16] besides myself you mean? [18:16] but not new [18:17] 775 takes an intel and a core 2 [18:17] just the old intel will do me so i can get my spare mb going [18:18] i can have a look through my second hand stuff. [18:18] please do [18:21] everyone here is very quiet tonight [18:21] maybe they are all chatted out [18:21] lol [18:22] i think they scared they get put to work [18:22] lol [18:22] we need an agenda page and agenda items for mondays meeting [18:24] they all waiting for me to go sleep then theyll come on [18:25] i don't think they are that scared of you [18:25] lol [18:28] theynot scared of me they scared of more work [18:28] oh ya whats news with the recovery [18:28] i can understand that. [18:29] finished it but it does not look like we got much usable stuff of [18:30] no man must be [18:30] just it all comes in numbered files [18:30] well a lot of music, but it looks like most of the avi movie files are just parts. [18:30] but too understand what they were is the big job [18:31] aw all the movies [18:31] and saved videos [18:31] try another tool [18:32] bye :) [18:32] it was, there was also a lot of other files recovered like word documents, presentation and pdf files. [18:32] Kilos: it's 6,2 megabyte :) [18:32] bye smile [18:32] cheers smile [18:32] see ya tomorrow :) [18:32] well done smile [18:33] sleep tight [18:33] still small issue at uninstalling. I will resolve it tomorrow ;) [18:33] good night :) [18:33] lol [18:33] :) [18:34] youve used testdisk and photorec hey magespawn [18:35] yes i am busy at the moment with to see it i can redo the master file table. [18:35] with ubcd? [18:35] both of those tools are available for ms too, big surprise there. [18:36] wow [18:36] no i ran both my ubuntu machine [18:36] no man i mean you trying to fix file table with what [18:37] testdisk [18:37] q [18:37] ah [18:39] if you could just get windows to see it you cd use chkdsk from a windows drive [18:40] could [18:41] yup thats the thing. chkdsk most of the time can repair the file system [18:41] but no [18:41] but now that we have recovered some info, i feel that is worth the risk to try and repair the file system [18:41] fish time [18:42] lol [18:49] magespawn, read this [18:49] http://mnemonikk.org/2009/04/26/recovering-data-from-a-broken-ntfs-hard-drive/ [18:49] okay [18:50] guten abend [18:50] is kilos gone yet [18:51] lol [18:51] eish [18:51] hi inetpro you so cheeky [18:51] hi inetpro [18:51] * inetpro goes hiding somewhere [18:51] told you magespawn [18:51] lol [18:51] Kilos: wher's that nuvolari character of yours? [18:51] inetpro, pleeeeeese make a new agenda page and give me the link [18:52] i dunno i pinged him [18:52] if he wants to run the meeting on Monday he will have to get involved in setting the Agenda [18:52] or tell me how to make new agenda pages [18:52] nuvolari: no excuses are acceptable [18:52] :-) [18:53] tell/teach [18:53] Kilos: the agenda is there, isn't it [18:53] Kilos: check the topic [18:53] ChanServ: topic [18:53] i been in and out of ubuntuwiki thing but cant find nothing [18:53] ChanServ: topic #ubuntu-za [18:54] hmm... [18:54] ive lost the link to the meetings [18:54] had a hard day [18:55] Kilos: honestly, can you not see the topic of the channel? [18:55] it's always there [18:55] link? [18:55] i try again [18:56] ChanServ, topic [18:56] grrr [18:56] Kilos: grrr [18:57] ChanServ, topic #ubuntu-za [18:57] : [18:57] * inetpro goes to find a screenshot of xchat [18:57] Chanserv: topic [18:57] chanserv says nothing [18:57] Topic for #ubuntu-za is “Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 16 July @ 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/KgdIo7 || Announcements: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza” [18:58] oh that thing at the top [18:58] hahaha [18:58] thats the one [18:59] Kilos: yeah, that stuff at the top is called the topic [18:59] lotsa information there [19:00] Kilos: and I put all the agenda items there so far, what more do you want to see? [19:01] oh my goodness [19:01] why wait for me to ask when you have done it already [19:01] grrrr [19:02] well done i will tweet it more [19:02] Kilos: seriously, I thought you knew it and just wanted to add more stuffs [19:02] no i didnt sorry [19:03] ahh well, all well that ends well. [19:03] Kilos: can you see the date when I added those items? [19:03] anyone can go add etc if they login there hey? [19:04] Kilos: sure thing [19:04] no when did you do it? [19:04] eish! [19:04] haha [19:05] Mon, 18 June 2012 20:43 UTC - 21:13 UTC [19:05] just after the last meeting, ne? [19:06] exactly [19:06] whew shoot me [19:06] :-) [19:06] inetpro do you use emacs? [19:06] Kilos: now please go announce that meeting again tomorrow and add the link to the agenda [19:06] magespawn: nope [19:07] lol will do [19:07] magespawn: I tried once long ago and gave up [19:07] will email list too if time allows [19:07] good evening [19:07] hi charl [19:07] magespawn: but I do vi and vim [19:07] charl: good evenin [19:08] hi Kilos, inetpro [19:08] inetpro, not kate [19:08] Kilos: oh and kate [19:08] * inetpro loves kate [19:08] but Kilos, don't tell my wife [19:08] hehehe [19:09] eh, at least she also know kate :-) [19:09] knows* [19:09] haha [19:10] lucky you or you would be sleeping with the broody bantom [19:10] eish! [19:11] Maaz, define bantom [19:11] Kilos: I don't know about bantom. Maybe you meant Fantom, Bantam or bantam? [19:11] ya bantam [19:13] oh my i typed inna topic when it was suppsed to be here [19:13] brb\ [19:13] lol [19:14] why did you stop inetpro? supposed to be very poweful, thas what i here [19:14] hear [19:16] magespawn, does that recover link give you more hope [19:16] make an image of it [19:16] magespawn: why did I stop what? [19:16] emacs [19:16] is does but need more room to store data again. [19:17] emacs inetpro [19:17] magespawn: ahh [19:17] to much to remember [19:17] i see. [19:17] eish you shoulda gone for a 2tb [19:18] i was trying to learn vi and that seemed like a lot of work. [19:18] but got the hang of it quite soon [19:18] vim is easier [19:19] i like to find tools that i can use regardless of the os of the pc [19:19] there is emacs for the other os too [19:20] ah [19:20] Kilos: here's my chickens https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts/SUAtxYjTMcF [19:20] no man g+ eats data [19:20] mail me the pic [19:21] they look cold [19:21] inetpro, do you know any pc upgrade peeps [19:21] Kilos: a 87,94 KB file https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wetfmXoeL_g/T_3RBehEtvI/AAAAAAAABH8/ca0YWWntMtU/s457/2012+-+1 [19:22] Kilos: hmm... [19:22] Kilos: why? [19:22] are they mini australorps [19:22] i need a cpu [19:23] lga 775 socket [19:23] Kilos: TBH I don't know what they are [19:23] are serious? [19:23] Kilos: post on the ubuntu-za mailing list [19:23] are you serious? [19:23] those arent chickens they are full grown bantams magespawn [19:24] they sill look cold. [19:24] oh cold ya they in the tvl in winter [19:26] Kilos: I'm sure there will be peeps who know their hardware on the mailing list [19:27] Kilos: what's wrong with your cpu? [19:27] thats an idea i will try them ty [19:27] its another mb ian gave me without cpu or ram [19:28] is the mobo is okay? [19:28] ram he will help me get but only cpus still available are core2 [19:28] its still inna box magespawn [19:28] Kilos: http://www.pricecheck.co.za/search/?search=lga+775+socket [19:28] which socket 1155 or 1115 i think [19:28] 775 [19:29] lga 775 [19:29] they used to use an older intell then brought out a core to to upgrade [19:29] so someone thats upgraded must still have the old cpu [19:30] mm what i was saying is that the new chips are socket 1155 or 1115 i think [19:30] look at the mb [19:30] so you want any chip that will fit a lga 775 socket [19:30] what mb is it? [19:31] http://www.dealtime.com/Elitegroup-ECS-P4M800PRO-M-1-0A-VIA-P4M800-CHIPSET-SERIAL-ATA150-MICRO-ATX-FORM-FACTOR-1xAGP-8X-3xPCI-2xDDR-2x/info [19:31] ecs [19:31] onboard graphics and can do sata drives [19:32] so maybe i can go unity [19:32] also be much quicker if i start data recoveries [19:38] yes [19:42] yes what? [19:43] ya any chip that will fit inna 775 socket [19:45] most peeps today have sata drives so i think maybe it will be doff to offer a recovery service that doesnt include satas [19:45] right or wrong? [20:09] night guys. sleep tight. see you all tomorrow [21:02] nn === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za