[00:03] <kristenbb> hello world
[00:03] <anadon> Can someone tell me the web location of the GIMP plugin to save images as ascii art?  I need to download it.
[00:04] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: the sysrq does not do anything when it's frozen
[00:04] <kyle__> anadon: Um.  What?
[00:05] <x1k> anadon: http://goo.gl/pEuxk
[00:05] <x1k> anadon: is that what you're looking for?
[00:05] <kyle__> anadon: It should just be in there.  Nothing to download.  If it's not, apt-get-install gimp-plugin-registry.
[00:05] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: So it's locked hard
[00:06] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: but I rebooted again and it came up fine
[00:06] <FoolsRun> It's literally every second boot
[00:06] <anadon> x1k: I'm on arch, but loved to use that plugin.
[00:06] <anadon> x1k: Thanks!
[00:07] <SBonomi> I have had a loading issue on 11.04 and need a bit of help  I let the system upgrade the Nvidia graphics driver which then gave me a flashins screen, and it will not unload, nor can I reload a new copy of 11.04
[00:09] <anonymous> o_o
[00:09] <schnoodles> Hello i think i have an error in my /etc/networks/interfaces and my machine will not boot now complaining about my networks. Is there a way i can get into a mode where i can edit this file ?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> schnoodles,  recovery or rescue mode from the grub menu shhould.. seems weird that file would keep sstem from booting
[00:10] <SBonomi> schnoodles, have you tried the safe boot?
[00:11] <Guest58549> o_o
[00:11] <schnoodles> Dr_willis and SBonomi i am running this on a VM and it seems to hit this screen at the very start before any menus :\
[00:11] <schnoodles> Looking at launchpad it seems like this is an old bug.
[00:11] <schnoodles> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/512253
[00:11] <kristenbb> how can I set ubuntu not to write a nbsp (but a normal space instead) when I type altgr+space ?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> boot a live cd image in the VM. :)
[00:12] <MorrowW> Hi everyone, I'm encountering an issue with running .iso files. I have them properly mounted and everything, but all it does is show me what's inside the folders instead of executing the file.
[00:12] <SBonomi> perhaps booting from a CD will give you access to that mount volume
[00:12] <Dr_willis> MorrowW,  wghat are you expecting it to execute?
[00:13] <MorrowW> Dr_willis I'm trying to get the .iso file to be recognized by a program.
[00:13] <philmeister> Hello. I've got ubuntu 12.04 running with two monitors. My problem is that when i try to watch a youtube video fullscreen the windows stretches towards the right edge of the left screen, so I only can see half the video. Hope anybody understand what i mean.
[00:14] <Dr_willis> MorrowW,  what program? You dont 'execute' iso files.. that that wasent what your first question was asking..
[00:14] <MorrowW> Dr_willis It's rosetta stone, and I'm trying to get the program to recognize the disc
[00:14] <schnoodles> Dr_willis: ok i will try that now. In the live cd should i just mount the old file system and edit the /etc/networks/interfaces or is there something easier??
[00:15] <MorrowW> Dr_willis I have the program rosetta stone running and when I insert the cd with the iso file the CD mounts fine, but the program fails to recognize that the disc is there
[00:15] <Dr_willis> MorrowW,  this is a windows/wine app yopu are referign to? ive had luck with copying EVERYTHING off of the cd to some directory and running the apps from within that dir. You may want to checkt he wine app database for that specific app.
[00:15] <Dr_willis> MorrowW,  you may need to run the wine configure tool to make a virtual cd for the app to look at with the contents of the cd.
[00:15] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Try creating a file /boot/grub/custom.cfg with the contents "timout=5" (which will make the grub menu have exactly a 5 second timeout every time) and let it timeout (don't press any keys) and see if it then always fails, always succeeds, or does something else.
[00:15] <MorrowW> Dr_willis Okay. How would I go about configuring that in Wine?
[00:15] <Dr_willis> schnoodles,  thats about as easy as it gets. ;)
[00:16] <philmeister> Here's a screen shot of my problem. The left one is a full screened youtube video: http://i.imgur.com/rhrxZ.jpg
[00:16] <Dr_willis> MorrowW,  you may want to check in #winehq  i tend to only use wine for very simple cases.
[00:16] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: just those contents? And no need to run update-grub?
[00:16] <schnoodles> Heh luckily ive done this before so i kind of know what i am doing :). Just depends if it will boot from CD which at the moment it looks like it does not :S
[00:16] <kristenbb> how to automatically mount an internal drive wiht 12.04 ?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Yes to both, just those contents (whithout the quotes) and no need to run update-grub as /boot/grub/custom.cfg is read at boot.
[00:17] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  add a proper entry for it in /etc/fstab
[00:17] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[00:17] <SBonomi> not booting from CD is a Bios setting I believe
[00:17] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: done and rebooting
[00:17] <MorrowW> Dr_willis Okay. I once tried to mount the file directly from on the computer and this didn't seem to work much better. I'll go check Winehq, though.
[00:17] <kristenbb> is it expected that ubuntu doesn't automatically mount internal drives?
[00:18] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: Yes.
[00:18] <Jordan_U> !fstab | kristenbb
[00:18] <philmeister> Can somebody please try to help me?
[00:18] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  totally depens on the filesystem of the partition.
[00:18] <kristenbb> if it's ext4, it should mount it automatically, right?
[00:18] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  no.. in fact it should NOT...
[00:18] <escott> kristenbb, is your user in plugdev
[00:18] <TeknoJuce> jthan, had the -dm and -S backwards
[00:18] <Dr_willis> unless you make a entry for it in fstab. or when you installed.
[00:18] <kristenbb> escott: what is plugdev?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis: kristenbb: Internal partitions are not mounted automatically unless explicitly configured in the /etc/fstab. They should show up in nautilus though, and mount with a single click.
[00:19] <kristenbb> escott: a group?
[00:19] <escott> kristenbb, yes
[00:19] <Areckx> !seen Areckx
[00:19] <kristenbb> escott: how to check that
[00:19] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  a BIG issue with ext2/3/4 can be - that depending on where the partiuons/drives came from. your users/owneship may be  set where your user cant access them
[00:20] <escott> kristenbb, "groups"
[00:20] <kristenbb> Jordan_U: yes but I don't want to have to click. other programs depend on it, and they say the files can't be reached
[00:20] <kristenbb> escott: yes i am in plugdev
[00:20] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  so make a fstab entry for it - to mount it where you want.
[00:20] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: Then you need to create an fstab entry, as explained in the message from ubottu.
[00:20] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: the timeout worked (the menu appeared) but the boot still didn't work
[00:20] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  then it will mount at boot time.
[00:20] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: it locked up in the same spot
[00:21] <kristenbb> ok, what would the entry look like ?
[00:21] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: OK, Do you still get alternating good and bad boots?
[00:21] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: And if you don't get any good boots any more, and I guess I should have asked you this when we started, do you have a LiveCD/USB you can use to revert the change?
[00:22] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: I can make one. I have to hard-power-off the machine and try again. Hang on.
[00:22] <kristenbb> by the way would it not be wise to just set ubuntu to mount everything it finds?
[00:22] <kristenbb> (and why not)
[00:23] <kristenbb> ubottu: thanks
[00:23] <kristenbb> I love when it says that :)
[00:23] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: so far it showed the boot menu for the 5 seconds and now it's showing the non-graphical splash like it has on "good" boots before.
[00:23] <kyle__> kristenbb: You mean at boot time?  You don't want to do that, slow mounts broken mounts, etc.  It can massively inflate your boot/login time.
[00:24] <kristenbb> kyle__: I see
[00:24] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: worked fine on the second boot
[00:24] <kristenbb> so what am I supposed to write in /etc/fstab ?
[00:25] <kyle__> kristenbb: For some mount types you can put a bg flag in the option portion of fstab.  That will background the mount, thus letting you continue booting even if it's slow/missing.
[00:25] <kristenbb> kyle__: that seems like a nice option.
[00:26] <kristenbb> kyle__: so what would the whole line look like
[00:26] <Alexxxxa> people, please help! My PC won't detect my external hard disc storage, but it works fine with my Lap top. It used to work with PC too. However, any other stick flash memory works on PC. What should I do now?
[00:27] <kyle__> kristenbb: pertwee:/home /home nfs rw,tcp,bg 0 0
[00:27] <kristenbb> what?
[00:27] <kristenbb> pertee, what is that ?
[00:27] <kyle__> kristenbb: That would be to mount the NFS shared home directory off of pertwee to local home, read-write, tcp, background.
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Alexxxxa: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" from the working and non-working machines (with the drive plugged into said machines at the time)?
[00:28] <kyle__> kristenbb: It's a hostname, that's for an NFS mount.
[00:28] <kristenbb> I just want a normal mount, no networking access
[00:28] <kristenbb> it can be accessed locally, it's /dev/sdc1
[00:30] <kyle__> kristenbb: You don't background localmounts.  But if it's removable (external usb hdd etc), you can put in a noauto flag.
[00:30] <kyle__> /dev/sdc1 /mnt/stuff ext4 defaults,noauto,user=kristenbb 0 0
[00:30] <kyle__> Something like that.
[00:30] <kristenbb> kyle__: what does 0 0 mean ?
[00:31] <kristenbb> kyle__: when clicked on with nautilus, ubuntu by default mounts it to /media. can I not mount it there too ?
[00:31] <Alexxxxa> people, still waiting
[00:31] <kristenbb> kyle__: also, what does 'stuff' refer to ?
[00:32] <ceege> Alexxxa: Does fdisk -l show the drive?
[00:32] <kristenbb> kyle__: also, what does 'stuff' refer to ?  What would nautilus have put in place of 'stuff', should I have clicked on it ?
[00:32] <jrdnn> kristenbb: The 0 0, first 0 is how many days between dumps, second is for order of filesystem/quota checks on reboot
[00:32] <kyle__> kristenbb: In fstab the last two columns are for an old backup utility and check order, that nobody (or not many) people use anymore.
[00:32] <kyle__> kristenbb: /mnt/stuff (second col in fstab) in this case is what directory it's going to be mounted under.
[00:33] <gr33n7007h> Alexxxxa, Jordan_U already told you to pastebin the output sudo parted -l
[00:33] <kristenbb> kyle__: so could it not be /media/ as nautilus would have done?
[00:33] <kyle__> kristenbb: Just go ahead and let the desktop automount the stuff for you then.  You can always go back and change to fstab later.
[00:33] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Try adding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[00:33] <kyle__> kristenbb: A mount can be almost anywhere.  /home/george/movies, /var/www/gifs, etc.
[00:33] <kristenbb> kyle__: well that's what I want in the end maybe, to let the desktop mount it, but in an automated way
[00:34] <kristenbb> kristenbb: how about the name. What name is chosen by nautilus ? Is it chosen to match the label of the partition ?
[00:34] <kristenbb> kristenbb: and how could I do that in /etc/fstab, assuming it's possible?
[00:34] <Alexxxxa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085453/ But it detects only my pen drive, not external hard disc
[00:35] <Alexxxxa> the same external hard disc worked week ago just fine
[00:36] <Alexxxxa> and it works on lap top
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Alexxxxa: I asked for two "sudo parted -l results". I'll repost my request.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Alexxxxa: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" from the working and non-working machines (with the drive plugged into said machines at the time)?
[00:36] <ceege> is the drive SATA3? and maybe that computer can't do that?
[00:37] <Alexxxxa> ok
[00:37] <Alexxxxa> but I will not plug in pen drive in working machine
[00:37] <Alexxxxa> only external hard
[00:38] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: line added, rebooting. Successfully showing the text splash so at least the change worked...
[00:39] <jrdnn> ceege: Isn't SATA 3 backwards compatible? Just runs at SATA2 speeds on old computers?
[00:39] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: Holy crap it worked! Rebooting again to be sure!
[00:39] <Chad__> Now that we're on the topic of fstab, what flags do I need to set to allow normal users to mount and unmount the device? "user" doesn't work.
[00:39] <ceege> I got a few enclosures from Frys lately that only work on systems that can do SATA3
[00:40] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Great. You can remove /boot/grub/custom.cfg then, and *please* file a bug report about this.
[00:41] <Alexxxxa> from working-machine http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085459/
[00:41] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: My machine has been upgraded for many, many versions of Ubuntu and is anything but clean. Is it still worth the bug report?
[00:41] <Alexxxxa> sorry, it took a while cause I'm lookin' for new wireless router and can't get them both connected at the moment
[00:42] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: Yes. Make sure to mention that in the bug report though.
[00:42] <FoolsRun> Jordan_U: sure thing. Thanks for your help, this has been killing me!
[00:44] <Jordan_U> FoolsRun: You're welcome :)
[00:46] <simplew> in im gnome settings but i cant change the windows style, what should i run in cli to get the proper window to change windows style?
[00:46] <Alexxxxa> There's one thing I can't understand about computers: Why do things that worked fine, tend not to work right? I mean, how is it possible? It worked a week ago, and now it doesn't. Not that I've changed anything...
[00:47] <ceege> I would blame solar flares
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Alexxxxa: Can you unplug the external drive from the non-working machine, run "sudo dmesg -c" and pastebin the output, then plug the drive in and run "dmesg" and pastebin that output?
[00:48] <Alexxxxa> ok
[00:50] <OerHeks> ceege solar flares and particles from fukushima would be offtopic, and laughed about ...
[00:50] <kristenbb> can you please give me more guidance regarding the modification of /etc/fstab ? I tried to do it on my own but failed
[00:51] <jrdnn> kristenbb: Just experiment with it and type mount -a after editting, as long as you don't install until that works should be no problems
[00:51] <kristenbb> so what am I supposed to write in /etc/fstab exactly ?
[00:51] <Bert_2> Hi, my 12.04 won't mount unionfs, is this because Ubuntu 12.04 uses aufs ?
[00:52] <kristenbb> do spaces matter?
[00:52] <jrdnn> kristenbb: What /dev/ entry has the drive, what filesystem type, where do you want it mounted, and with what permissions?
[00:52] <psusi> kriskropd, yes... but why are you messing with fstab?
[00:52] <Alexxxxa> just a little problem. I can't export what I get from terminal. I type "sudo dmesg -c > firstone.txt", but into it there's nothing, just number 1
[00:53] <Fishscene> So like, Ubuntu saved us about $20,000. We are re-using our 5yo macbook laptops and turning them into VMware View terminals. It was insanely easy to strip unnecessary software and customize it to my needs. It's not much, but it took me about 5 years to get Ubuntu's foot in the door where I work. :)
[00:53] <kristenbb> jrdnn: there are more than one. But the first one is sdc1. it's ntfs. I want it mounted in /media/[its label name, literally - like, idealy, if I change the label name, the place where it is mounted should change, too]. no peculiar permissions, I think.
[00:54] <psusi> Fishscene, nice... what's a "vmware view terminal"?
[00:54] <kristenbb> in other words I just want what the desktop does when I click on it, but in an automated way
[00:55] <kristenbb> I don't exactly know what it does, but I think my description is accurate. If there's something else that it does that I'm not aware of, I'd like this too.
[00:55] <jrdnn> kristenbb: /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 ntfs-fuse rw 0 0        If sdc1 changing is a problem use glabel
[00:55] <kristenbb> jrdnn: can I add extra spaces and tabs to make it look aligned?
[00:55] <Fishscene> psusi: Simply, Ubuntu boots, autologs on and runs "VMware View". This taps into Windows 7 virtual machines running on a server.
[00:55] <psusi> use the UUID to identify the drive
[00:56] <psusi> kriskropd, where there are already spaces, you can add extras yes...
[00:56] <kristenbb> was that my nickname? :)
[00:56] <Alexxxxa> first time i typed "dmesg" it displayed something, but now it doesn't anymore
[00:57] <Alexxxxa> how is it possible? good, this is frustrating
[00:57] <psusi> Fishscene, how is that different than windows terminal services?  what's it got to do with vmware?
[00:57] <kristenbb> and is it not possible to mount it in /media/[label] instead ?
[00:58] <ceege> Alexxxxa: check the dmesg logs in /var/log
[00:58] <psusi> Fishscene, you have to pay a good deal to license vmware server don't you?  might save more money with xen
[00:58] <psusi> kristenbb, you can mount it wherever you want
[00:58] <kristenbb> psusi: but I mean in an automated way
[00:58] <Fishscene> psusi: It's similar to terminal services. But we are using the software "VMware View" for linux which allows us to use the PCoIP protocol (Instead of RDP). And yes, it might be cheaper with Xen, but we decided to go with VMware as it is easier to train other admins.
[00:59] <psusi> kriskropd, it gets mounted wherever you specify in fstab ( but the directory already has to exist )
[00:59] <kristenbb> psusi: I mean, look for the label name, and mount it there. I just want what the desktop does, nothing more, nothing less
[00:59] <Fishscene> Anyway, I have to go. Just wanted to thank the community for all their hard work which makes my job easier. :D
[00:59] <psusi> kriskropd, no
[00:59] <kristenbb> why is it so complicated to do what the desktop does? Is there no way to just automate the mounting that the desktop does?
[01:00] <kristenbb> that's silly
[01:00] <psusi> Fishscene, and this protocol is better than rdp?
[01:00] <Chad__> In fstab, how do I allow normal users to unmount the device? Currently, only root can do this.
[01:00] <LuiX> hi! my boot up in 12.04 is extremely slow, i need some help i have bootchart data. how's the best way to present it?
[01:00] <psusi> Chad__, add the user option
[01:00] <Chad__> psusi: I already did that
[01:00] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: You can use the command udisk --mount.
[01:01] <kristenbb> Jordan_U: okay, that seems interesting
[01:01] <kristenbb> Jordan_U: what's the whole command
[01:01] <psusi> LuiX, upload it to some image sharing site and post the link
[01:01] <kristenbb> Jordan_U: I mean, how to tell udisk what disk to mount
[01:01] <psusi> Chad__, ohh, I think only the user that mounted it can unmount it
[01:01] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: udisk --mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID_GOES_HERE
[01:01] <OptimizedCoder> I beliee I added a ppa repository to install subversion 1.7
[01:02] <kristenbb> Jordan_U: okay, where to put that command so that it's executed at boot time?
[01:02] <OptimizedCoder> now if I want to unistall 1.7 and go back to 1.6 - I should remove that ppa repo. How do I do this ?
[01:02] <psusi> kriskropd, can't execute at boot time... best you can do that route is at login time
[01:02] <Alexxxxa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085480/ (unplugged) and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1085485/ (plugged
[01:02] <kristenbb> or login time
[01:03] <OptimizedCoder> this was how I added the ppa repo for svn 1.7 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/65468/where-can-i-find-a-subversion-1-7-binary
[01:03] <kristenbb> and my nickname is not kriskropd
[01:03] <kristenbb> psusi: and my nickname is not kriskropd
[01:03] <Chad__> psusi: It's mounted at boot time with the "auto" option. So I don't know who it's being mounted as. Root?
[01:03] <psusi> Chad__, yep... think you need to noauto it
[01:03] <Alexxxxa> the both logs are coppied from /var/log/dmesg file, same one (but there's also dmesg.0)
[01:04] <ceege> kristenbb: are you wanting to automount a usb drive when plugged in?
[01:04] <psusi> Chad__, ahh, according to the man page for mount, you can use "users" with an "s" instead to allow anyone to unmount
[01:04] <kristenbb> ceege: no, it's a internal drive
[01:04] <kristenbb> ceege: I want the internal drive to be automatically mounted.
[01:04] <LuiX> here's my bootchart http://tinypic.com/r/kdnb6p/6, psusi
[01:04] <ceege> and you want it mounted always at boot time?
[01:05] <psusi> ceege, he wants the mount point to automatically rename if he changes the volume label
[01:05] <kristenbb> ceege: I want the internal drive to be automatically mounted (in the same way it would have been if I had clicked on it with nautilus). That doesn't seem complicated but i've been struggling with this for the past hour
[01:05] <Chad__> psusi: Okay, I'll try that. But I really only wanted me, one user, to be able to do this.
[01:05] <Xenochi> Anyone know where I can get some generic drivers for stuff like webcams? Kinda would like to use the one built into my laptop
[01:05] <psusi> LuiX, that site butchered the image
[01:05] <ceege> so then adding noauto to the fstab entry should do it
[01:06] <kristenbb> ceege: I want the internal drives* to be automatically mounted (in the same way they* would have been if I had clicked on them* with nautilus). That doesn't seem complicated but i've been struggling with this for the past hour
[01:06] <LuiX> Xenochi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=913832
[01:06] <psusi> Chad__, use sudo?
[01:06] <Alexxxxa> hope that I pasted right logs :D
[01:06] <kristenbb> ceege: noauto?
[01:06] <Need2Grow> wht kinda logs
[01:06] <Need2Grow> cuz if its the kaka kind
[01:06] <Need2Grow> i aint down
[01:06] <kristenbb> ceege: what is that?
[01:06] <Xenochi> thanks, LuiX
[01:07] <ceege> noauto is how floppy drives and cdroms are listed in fstab, so that you must manually mount them
[01:07] <Pici> Need2Grow: Leave the toilet humor at the door please.
[01:07] <OptimizedCoder> Anyone knows on removing ppa repo key?
[01:07] <kristenbb> but I do want them to be automatically mounted
[01:07] <kristenbb> I'm lost
[01:07] <IdleOne> OptimizedCoder: install ppa-purge
[01:07] <ceege> then what is with the "click on them" part?
[01:08] <ceege> click to mount?
[01:08] <OptimizedCoder> IdleOne, ppa-purge? And how exactly do I remove certain ppa repos from there?
[01:08] <psusi> ceege, he wants the mount point to be automatically deteremined and created from the volume label, *like* what happens when you click on the drive in nautilus and it auto mounts
[01:09] <IdleOne> OptimizedCoder: it is a CLI tool so you would use: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa-name/whatever
[01:09] <kristenbb> ceege: sorry for the confusion. Let me restate my issue. I want to automatically mount a drive, but with the result that would have occurred if I had clicked on it with nautilus.
[01:09] <LuiX> here it is psusi, My BootChart https://picasaweb.google.com/104669217162593292192/10DeJulioDe2012?authuser=0&feat=directlink
[01:09] <IdleOne> OptimizedCoder: you could also just delete it from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and then run sudo apt-get update
[01:09] <ceege> what is that result? a window opens showing files?
[01:10] <OptimizedCoder> IdleOne, Thanks for thos comments- let me give 'em a shot
[01:10] <kristenbb> ceege: no, the result is just that it gets mounted in /media/[labelname]
[01:10] <ceege> if you google "fstab uuid" without the quotes, click the second link
[01:11] <psusi> LuiX, butchered even worse
[01:13] <LuiX> haha, psusi but i've checked this time. try to zoom with the + sign on the lower right corner. if you still can't, any suggestions?
[01:14] <kristenbb> so where to put a command so that it's executed when the user logs in?
[01:15] <psusi> LuiX, there is no plus
[01:15] <OptimizedCoder> IdleOne, I removed svn.list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d - and it workd
[01:15] <ryannathans> i'm on my netbook and use screen. in one 'screen' i have lynx and in another i have my irc (irssi). I'm using ^U and ^Y to copy/paste. How can i copy from lynx and paste into irssi
[01:15] <ceege> kristenbb: if your shell is bash (default), then ~/.bashrc
[01:16] <kristenbb> ceege: is that not when the terminal is opened?
[01:16] <IdleOne> OptimizedCoder: you're welcome.
[01:16] <Alexxxxa> I'm still waiting :)
[01:16] <kristenbb> ceege: i have a desktop edition.
[01:16] <ceege> oh
[01:16] <jrdnn> ryannathans: If you have moused, select text with left click, middle click into irssi? Other than that I don't think the processes can communicate
[01:16] <kristenbb> so where to put a command so that it's executed when the user logs in?
[01:17] <kristenbb> in ubuntu 12.04
[01:17] <ryannathans> jrdnn: thanks, i'll look into it
[01:17] <jrdnn> kristenbb: Type ls -a ~/ | grep .*rc and add to those files?
[01:17] <jrdnn> ryannathans: You're welcome.
[01:18] <kristenbb> jrdnn: what?
[01:18] <ryannathans> jrdnn: would i install moused locally or on my server i'm ssh'd to
[01:18] <kristenbb> jrdnn: I just want a program to be launched when the user logs in, is that so difficult?
[01:18] <ryannathans> kristenbb: desktop?
[01:18] <ceege> I think that may very between different desktop environments. try system->preferences->startup applications
[01:18] <ghostchick> kristenbb,  if you want to add it at the start of a gnome-session just use gnome-session-properties
[01:18] <LuiX> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B48U0GqBfmDiclRjVU83bHRKTGs last attemt psusi
[01:19] <ryannathans> ceege: that's been moved to the top right of the desktop -> startup applications
[01:19] <kristenbb> ryannathans: yes, desktop, as opposed to server, with no gui.
[01:19] <ryannathans> kristenbb: oh, no gui
[01:19] <kristenbb> ryannathans: yes, gui
[01:20] <kristenbb> ryannathans: I said I do have the desktop edition.
[01:20] <ryannathans> kristenbb: oh, top right of your desktop, click that. Then go startup applications
[01:20] <kristenbb> ryannathans: yes, desktop (as opposed to server, which has no gui)
[01:20] <ryannathans> kristenbb: you'll need to do it on the account you want it on though
[01:20] <kristenbb> I see.
[01:21] <kristenbb> what file is internally modified when I do this with my mouse
[01:21] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I am having problems updating
[01:21] <mizifih> Hi there! I need some help... I was wondering if I can setup a domain on my network using Ubuntu Desktop x86
[01:22] <alusion> My repository configuration might be messed up..
[01:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys: I've got a couple folders in a server I'd like to sync with another server, and I've got the exact path for the origin and final destinations. Is there any way to set this up? (I've got FTP configured in the destination server)
[01:22] <mizifih> Lots of ppl having problem tonight...
[01:23] <jrdnn> JoseeAntonioR: rsync > FTP
[01:23] <ceege> kristen: I think it's ~/.config/autostart
[01:24] <JoseeAntonioR> jrdnn: Do you have the sample command for it?
[01:24] <LuiX> OMG, finally, here's the link. to anyone who can help me with slow boot, heres the bootchart https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B48U0GqBfmDiclRjVU83bHRKTGs
[01:25] <JoseeAntonioR> I've also got SSH set up, if it's easier.
[01:25] <jrdnn> JoseeAntonioR: man scp? SSH should be the most secure way
[01:26] <ceege> "rysnc -e ssh ..." will sync through ssh
[01:28] <Alexxxxa> Anyone knows where's Jordan_U gone?
[01:28] <moes> !pastebin | LuiX
[01:29] <alazyworkaholic> VNC isn't working right. Is there any reasonable way for me to make text appear on an X user's desktop from a ssh terminal?
[01:29] <mizifih> Hi there! I need some help... I was wondering if I can setup a domain on my network using Ubuntu Desktop x86, if there is a uptodate tutorial
[01:30] <ghostchick> alazyworkaholic,  write and echo to notify osd maybe
[01:30] <ceege> alazy.. you can check into exporting your display. just google 'export display' and you'll get the answer
[01:31] <Chad__> psusi: Sorry I left. Yeah, I suppose sudo would work. I guess I'll just have to do that after all.
[01:31] <alazyworkaholic> ceege: thanks, will do
[01:32] <alazyworkaholic> ghostchick: what's notify osd
[01:32] <ghostchick> alazyworkaholic,  well on ubuntu the default notification program
[01:33] <alazyworkaholic> ghostchick: ah, got it. Can you write a simple example though?
[01:33] <LuiX> moes, i don't understand why the warning, it was just a link, not a multi-line text
[01:34] <ghostchick> alazyworkaholic,  sorry i m not a programmer , i could i guess you can set it up with an echo , its actually pretty easy
[01:35] <alazyworkaholic> ghostchick: echo DisplayThis | notify-osd              Would that be it? I have no clue.
[01:35] <LuiX> moes, now i got it
[01:36] <ghostchick> alazyworkaholic,  notify-send DisplayThis does work
[01:36] <LuiX> so, for the last time, and to epithomize my embarassement on this subject, here's the imagebin. i sincerely appologize http://imagebin.org/220272
[01:38] <Erealz> hi eveyone quick question how rm a bunch of file in my home dir that end with the same name in my stroke
[01:38] <newb2> I've installed the GDM3 testing package from https://launchpad.net/~tista/+archive/gdm-testing , but my GDM still in loop at start. somebody here have success with this package?
[01:39] <ceege> rm *asdf*
[01:39] <Erealz> in one command i mean....
[01:39] <sudocash> rm *.ext*
[01:39] <Erealz> k thanks ceege
[01:39] <newb2> The best log I found was "gnome-shell: unknown --mode=gdm option"
[01:39] <Alexxxxa> really have to go no
[01:39] <Alexxxxa> now
[01:41] <tyler_d> how do I allow myself to run an app that connects to a port... ?
[01:41] <psusi> LuiX, that's better... what filesystem type are you using?
[01:43] <ggolarge> asdfasdf
[01:43] <ggolarge> asdfasdf
[01:43] <ggolarge> asdfasdfalsf
[01:43] <psusi> LuiX, and how much ram do you have?
[01:43] <ggolarge> alsdfkajsdfakfla
[01:43] <ggolarge> qeptifagfkl
[01:43] <ggolarge> exit
[01:43] <FloodBot1> ggolarge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <ggolarge> ????
[01:43] <ggolarge> ?
[01:43] <ggolarge> asgdho
[01:44] <ggolarge> asdf
[01:44] <tyler_d> lol
[01:45] <LuiX> psusi ext3, and because i dual boot with windows i have two other ntfs partitions. got 3 Gb of RAM
[01:45] <tyler_d> I am trying to run vidalia(tor) as my user, but don't have the ability to start/stop the services as they are tied to ports
[01:46] <tr3nton> !dbus
[01:46] <mizifih> Hi there! I need some help... I was wondering if I can setup a domain on my network using Ubuntu Desktop x86, if there is a uptodate tutorial explaining that
[01:47] <psusi> LuiX, it looks like ureadahead is not working and you're spending a lot of time mounting those ntfs partitions and running something called "avguard.bin"
[01:49] <LuiX> i see psusi. but how can this happen now? i've had this partitions in auto mount since the first version i've installed (11.04)? avguard was an anti-virus, but i think i've uninstalled it
[01:49] <k1ngf1sh> hello
[01:50] <psusi> LuiX, you might try sudo rm /var/lib/ureadahead/pack and rebooting... waiting a minute or two for ureadahead to rebuild the pack file... then rebooting again
[01:50] <psusi> LuiX, according to your bootchart it's running for quite a while
[01:51] <LuiX> "rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/ureadahead/pack': No such file or directory" psusi
[01:53] <xiangjianfeng> excuse me, which instead of the alt+tab switch task in the gnome classic mode please..
[02:02] <xj54y__> Hey do I check to see which packages I have installed?
[02:02] <xj54y__> (and their dependencies)
[02:04] <psusi> hrm... does anyone else not have any pack files in /var/lib/ureadahead?  it looks like it may be broken on precise
[02:11] <crxss> hey
[02:14]  * deepspeed does a little dance
[02:14]  * deepspeed makes a little love
[02:24] <oranabi> hi
[02:25] <histo> !hi | oranabi
[02:28] <Phibs> anyone using ubuntu 12.0.4 and dell OMSA and managed to get th bios upgraded ?
[02:30] <Chipzzz> am trying to get cube cube rotate working on ubuntu 12.04 desktop... alt+ctrl+mouse mouse does not work... any help?
[02:30] <Chipzzz> (sorry... "cube rotate")
[02:38] <fishbait> i have 1 question how do i turn off the f-key shortcuts? like f1 f2 f3 f4 etc
[02:39] <drag0nius> the only way would be if you have separate key to do so on your keyboard
[02:39] <drag0nius> on mine it's called "F mode"
[02:39] <drag0nius> to toggle between F1-F12 and media keys
[02:40] <fishbait> well this is a regular desktop keyborad
[02:41] <fishbait> and i use vmware to play online games and yesterday i mashed the f1 key so much that i had to reboot due to severe lag from help windows
[02:42] <drag0nius> you could try remapping those keys
[02:43] <fishbait> hmm just add Ctrl to the f-keys but how?
[02:43] <drag0nius> i think you could achieve sth like that with autohotkey
[02:43] <drag0nius> sec
[02:43] <drag0nius> http://www.autohotkey.com/
[02:43] <fishbait> mmk i'll lok into that
[02:44] <drag0nius> F1::return
[02:44] <drag0nius> think it should disable F1
[02:44] <drag0nius> then make same lines up to F12
[02:44] <drag0nius> save file with .ahk and run it
[02:44] <drag0nius> oh wait
[02:45] <drag0nius> think its for windows ;d
[02:46] <drag0nius> go to settings
[02:46] <ryannathans> how can i change my tty resolution independant of grub2?
[02:46] <drag0nius> Keyboard Layout
[02:46] <drag0nius> select your layout and there will be little keyboard at the bottom
[02:46] <drag0nius> there you can remap keys
[02:46] <drag0nius> crap
[02:46] <drag0nius> its just display ;/
[02:48] <drag0nius> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys
[02:48] <reza_> hi
[02:49] <jthan> TeknoJuce: Did it work once you fixed the flags?
[02:50] <n1ckn4me09876543> I went to Startup Applications Preferences and add thunderbird on the Command field and it worked, but now I would like it to wait 20 seconds before it starts so I input sleep 20 && thunderbird   but then thunderbird wont launch at all after 20 seconds, what am I doing wrong?
[02:50] <Dgen> Hello , i am in amazon linux server when i try to use  patch command , i am getting -bash: patch: command not found , how  can i install package to run patch
[02:52] <reza_> hi, im newbie, someone can tell me what is difference between apache and xampp? thank's before
[02:52] <trism> Dgen: sudo apt-get install patch
[02:53] <Dgen> trism:  actually I am in amazon server so apt-get doesn't work
[02:53] <trism> Dgen: the it is offtopic here
[02:53] <trism> Dgen: then
[02:54] <ryannathans> what framebuffer comes with ubuntu
[02:54] <jthan> reza_: XAMPP is just a big collection of packages that are put together for you.
[02:55] <Dgen>  reza_: xampp is collection of php, mysql and apache....apache resides inside xampp, apache is web server
[02:55] <jaake> looking for a keybinding to lock screen? is one present ootb? or shall I have to make one?
[02:56] <trism> jaake: ctrl+alt+L
[02:56] <jaake> ty trism
[02:57] <Dgen> yum install patch , i would say this to someone who got confused
[03:00] <reza_> oh ya, i know now, thanks Dgen and jthan, im still study :)
[03:01] <reza_> oh ya, i know now, thanks /Dgen and /jthan, im still study :)
[03:01] <tr3nton> When does one use wiki.ubuntu.com vs help.ubuntu.com? As far as contributing goes.
[03:03] <sham-hack> does any one know what is meaning this while updating in terminal:-
[03:03] <jthan> tr3nton: The wiki tends to be arranged more by specific "guides" and "howtos" whereas the help site is people asking questions.
[03:03] <sham-hack> A
[03:03] <Super_Dog> When is the 12.04_1 going to be out?
[03:03] <tr3nton> jthan: oh right, thanks.
[03:03] <sham-hack> D    documentation/users_guide.pdf
[03:04] <sham-hack> any one know
[03:04] <Super_Dog> I was told to wait on upgrading my 10.04 desktop until it went to 12.04_1
[03:04] <Super_Dog> If it ain't broke don't fix it right?  :-)
[03:04] <Logan_> August 23rd
[03:04] <Logan_> oh, he quit
[03:04] <Logan_> oh well
[03:05] <Logan_> wait, no
[03:05] <Logan_> Super_Dog: ^
[03:05] <jthan> He didn't quit. You misread
[03:05] <jthan> :-p
[03:05] <Logan_> Super_Dog: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule as well
[03:05] <Logan_> jthan: it's late, give me a break ;P
[03:05] <Super_Dog> Cool... Will the download file be marked with 12.04_1 or something on the file name when I download?
[03:05] <fusa> Welcome mynotes! You have achieved a new peak of 1542 users for #ubuntu!
[03:06] <Logan_> Super_Dog: 12.0.4.1
[03:06] <jthan> Logan_: It happens. I kept trying to have someone install something the other night with "apt-get <packagename>" without the actual install option.
[03:06] <Logan_> haha
[03:06] <FriarTech> or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.1
[03:07] <Super_Dog> Roger that...  Has anybody here jumped right from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS?  I'm hoping it's safe...
[03:07] <trism> tr3nton: may be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/ (and #ubuntu-doc)
[03:07] <jthan> I don't see why it isn't.
[03:07] <jthan> Or wouldn't be
[03:07] <FriarTech> Super Dog: I just did on two servers today
[03:07] <reza_> i using ubuntu desktop, can i use tools ubuntu server on my ubuntu desktop?
[03:07] <FriarTech> No problems
[03:07] <Super_Dog> Good news...
[03:07] <FriarTech> Yes
[03:07] <FriarTech> Of course I made backups before I started :)
[03:08] <jthan> reza_: they both share the same repositories, so you're good to go
[03:08] <Super_Dog> Any problems you noticed... Although I'll be doing two desktop upgrades...
[03:08] <FriarTech> The only thing I did really after making sure my configurations stayed was remove the /etc/resolv.conf symlink
[03:08] <Logan_> Super_Dog: you might get some package issues if they're not coded well, but you should be fine otherwise
[03:08] <FriarTech> I like controlling that myself
[03:09] <lopez> join #firefox-es
[03:09] <Logan_> /join
[03:09] <Super_Dog> They are pretty basic installs.  No big deals although one desktop has the LAMP server package installed...
[03:09] <tr3nton> Seems confusing having so many. help.ubuntu.com;help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com.. was never really sure of the difference between the 3
[03:09] <lopez> yes sorry :)
[03:10] <reza_> jthan : really? i just add repository ubuntu server in sources list?
[03:10] <Logan_> tr3nton: help.ubuntu.com is the official doc; help.ubuntu.com/community is the community doc, and wiki.ubuntu.com is the general community-maintained wiki
[03:10] <Logan_> help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com definitely have some overlap
[03:10] <jthan> reza_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#Are_there_different_repositories_for_desktop_and_server.3F
[03:11] <reza_> oke, thanks again jthan :)
[03:12] <jthan> reza_: Not a problem. ;-)
[03:15] <gr33n7007h> I can only get a resolution of 1042x768 virtual box running ubuntu 12.04 how can i change to higher reolution?
[03:17] <MissionControl> I had the same problem when I ran ubuntu under vertual box
[03:17] <MissionControl> *virtual box
[03:18] <gr33n7007h> MissionControl, did you manage to fix it?
[03:18] <MissionControl> no
[03:18] <MissionControl> but I would like to know how to solve the problem
[03:19] <gr33n7007h> same here
[03:19] <MissionControl> my guess is that it's virtual box and not the operating system itself
[03:19] <MissionControl> there might be a setting somewhere that allowes it at a higher resolution
[03:20] <boshco> hola
[03:20] <MissionControl> you could also try getting into xorg.conf and edit the resolution there to a higher standard
[03:20] <boshco> esta maestrolinux?
[03:20] <ryannathans> hwinfo --framebuffer only goes up to 1440x900 but my monitor is 1920x1080, how can i get my native res in tty?
[03:20] <gr33n7007h> will try
[03:21] <MissionControl> figure out how to edit xorg.conf
[03:21] <MissionControl> or maybe installing some graphics drivers
[03:21] <MissionControl> but your best bet is probably to find a setting somewhere for the resolution
[03:21] <MissionControl> good luck
[03:23] <MissionControl> ryannathans do you have graphics drivers installed
[03:23] <MissionControl> ?
[03:23] <ryannathans> MissionControl: I don't have a gui installed
[03:24] <MissionControl> if you did have a gui as well as graphics drivers installed then I would recommend uninstalling them if it was that important to you
[03:24] <MissionControl> there's no very good way of solving the problem if it were me
[03:25] <MissionControl> you could access it using ssh from a different computer so the text looks nice and everything
[03:26] <MissionControl> I don't know where I'm going
[03:26] <ryannathans> MissionControl: what?
[03:26] <ryannathans> MissionControl: i don't understand anything you said.
[03:26] <MissionControl> nevermind me ask somebody else
[03:27] <MissionControl> I think I'm being more a problem than helpful
[03:27] <ryannathans>  if you did have a gui as well as graphics drivers installed then I would recommend uninstalling them if it was that important to you
[03:27] <ryannathans> wut
[03:28] <MissionControl> that shouldn't be importaint to you
[03:28] <MissionControl> just forget about the whole thing
[03:29] <ryannathans> I can't forget the whole thing because i built this machine for linux. It will run linux and linux only.
[03:29] <MissionControl> no forget what I said
[03:29] <ryannathans> and it can't even output to my whole monitor
[03:30] <MissionControl> if you have a monitor of that resolution you should probably have gotten a gui
[03:30] <ryannathans> MissionControl: I don't want a gui on a server
[03:30] <MissionControl> then why do you have a monitor hooked up to it?
[03:31] <MissionControl> a 1920 by 1080 monitor?
[03:31] <MissionControl> if I was you I'd just access it via ssh
[03:31] <ryannathans> because it's on my desk
[03:31] <ryannathans> ssh from what?
[03:31] <ryannathans> my windows?
[03:31] <ryannathans> lolno
[03:32] <FloodBot1> ryannathans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <MissionControl> well I'm a little confused
[03:32] <MissionControl> what are you trying to use the server for?
[03:32] <MissionControl> playing minecraft?
[03:32] <ryannathans> RAID array
[03:32] <MissionControl> for fileserver?
[03:32] <ryannathans> infiniband 30gb/s to my desktop
[03:32] <ryannathans> no, just for my desktop
[03:33] <MissionControl> well I'm affraid I cannot help you
[03:33] <MissionControl> sorry
[03:37] <jp_> HOW CAN I UNINSTALL  INSTALLED 3RD PARTY APPLICATIONS
[03:38] <Tm_T> jp_: no need to yell
[03:41] <ryannathans> jp_: opposite as to how you installed the,
[03:42] <ryannathans> ls -lR / > irssi
[03:42] <ryannathans> lawl
[03:42] <ryannathans> wong window
[03:45] <jp_> ?
[03:51] <roasted> Question - where is trash located? I see if I highlight it and hit CTRL L it's listed as trash:///, but does it have an actual path? I want to exclude it from an rsync script....
[03:52] <trism> roasted: ~/.local/share/Trash
[03:53] <roasted> trism, bingo, thanks!
[03:53] <ryannathans> hwinfo --framebuffer only goes up to 1440 x xxxx  and not 1920x1080 like my monitor is. How can i get my tty to be 1920x1080
[03:53] <ryannathans> amd cypress chip
[03:53] <ryannathans> amd 5850
[03:56] <BlackFlag> Greetings, sirs! I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 in a foxconn g31mv PC and a boot error occurs like this: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/RAAAAL6N_EG4TSviVRH2jlCw82txxMwiECM6B8NXnBT6oqPJba9sUd7LIJoSV6zYYywNK9_AauHiwVeQnUdzboJzns1vgVARx4-kIAJJTozBdCE_AJtU9VBfHAbgaF0Q07qS8qyQ_6ET2IpSdg.jpg
[03:58] <BlackFlag> Does anyone knows how to install Ubuntu in my computer?
[03:58] <Metzee> hello
[03:59] <Metzee> I wnat to deface a website....can help me?
[03:59] <Metzee> hello all
[03:59] <chu> Not the sort of advice you're going to get here.
[04:00] <Logan_> !rootirc | Metzee
[04:06] <roasted> well, that didn't work
[04:07] <rahul> how to install nividia driver in ubuntu?
[04:07] <roasted> anybody know the exact path of trash? I know it's in ~/.local/share/Trash, but I can't figure out how to exlcude it from rsync. It doesn't work if I do --exclude=/home/jason/.local/share/Trash....
[04:08] <tr3nton> still included?
[04:22] <wollw> I'm running Fluxbox on an Ubuntu install and am trying to figure out how to start what used to be the gnome-power-manager applet.  I would use the xfce4 power manager but for some reason it's slow to update it's state and freezes sometimes.
[04:23] <wollw> Anyone know how to start the new gnome power manager without running gnome?
[04:25] <luftikuss> wollw: Isn't that a contradiction in itself?
[04:26] <wollw> luftikuss: No, I used to be able to run it without starting a gnome session by running "gnome-power-manager"
[04:35] <blueberry91> Wow so many people here!
[04:36] <ml1000> quick question for anyone here... how can i maximize gnome-terminal via keyboard shortcut?
[04:36] <ml1000> i know if i map a keyboard shortcut to "gnome-terminal --maximize" it will launch a new maximized window, but how do i maximize my current window
[04:37] <wollw> try F11
[04:37] <ml1000> : D
[04:37] <ml1000> excellent
[04:38] <ml1000> that is all :0
[04:38] <jerry_l> hello room.
[04:39] <jerry_l> how do i allow only certian users to  samba folders? they would also be windowz users.
[04:39] <kanupatar> how can I take remote desktop of the linux machine(ubuntu) from a windows machine?
[04:39] <jerry_l> have you tried VNC?
[04:40] <hitter> rdesktop
[04:40] <hitter> oh sorry, that's backwards
[04:40] <hitter> listen to jerry_l
[04:40] <jerry_l> i have heard good things about VNC
[04:41] <luftikuss> wollw: You can try to issue the command »gnome-power-statistics«.
[04:41] <jagginess> rdesktop is for seeing a windows desktop on linux, kandinski wants the opposite
[04:41] <jagginess> (btw freerdp is better than rdesktop)
[04:41] <hitter> jagginess, excellent observation...
[04:42] <wollw> luftikuss: gnome-power-statistics doesn't give an indicator in the system tray unfortunately.
[04:45] <rage0> hi
[04:45] <jerry_l> how do i write copy sda1/file001.avi to sda2/file001.avi , and then
[04:46] <jerry_l> repeat and +1 to the file name and verify file is correct.
[04:46] <jerry_l> 2 TB hard drive that i want to test
[04:46] <hitter> jerry_l, sudo mount /dev/sda1 <<some_place>>
[04:46] <jerry_l> puppy linux automount
[04:47] <hitter> see #puppy
[04:47] <jerry_l> i was refering to scripting.
[04:47] <chyaurra> hii
[04:47] <hitter> jerry_l, oh
[04:47] <hitter> jerry_l, so can you not then just use nautilus
[04:48] <rage0> duno if this is right place to ask but how much space should swap drive have
[04:48] <anandology> where do I report broken package dependencies in ubuntu? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ?
[04:48] <jerry_l> 2.5xRAM ?
[04:48] <jerry_l> 1.5xRAM
[04:49] <jerry_l> nautlus
[04:49] <rage0> so 2x
[04:49] <rage0> thanks
[04:49] <hitter> jerry_l, the default gui file explorer
[04:50] <jerry_l> i was wanting to bash?
[04:50] <hitter> jerry_l, where is it mounted then
[04:50] <jerry_l> i was going to set up a TV server
[04:50] <jerry_l> sda1
[04:50] <hitter> jerry_l, I'm not familiar with "puppy"
[04:50] <hitter> jerry_l, type mount and let me know
[04:51] <jerry_l> sda1 = 2gig, sda2= 2TB
[04:51] <hitter> jerry_l, sda1 is the device/partition
[04:52] <hitter> jerry_l, what did mount tell you about those devices?
[04:52] <jerry_l> ..booting.. pleaes wait 9 secs.
[04:52] <hitter> k k
[04:52] <jagginess> 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
[04:52] <jagginess> 0 -1 -2 -3
[04:52]  * jagginess starts counting negative from now on
[04:53] <hitter> ^lol
[04:53] <next_map> hello
[04:53] <jerry_l> ??rootfson / type rootfs (rw,relatime)
[04:53] <jerry_l>  rootfs on
[04:54] <sarsaeol> using 10.04 and compiz, how may i change the alt tab behaviour to not move the focuus to the window until i select it?
[04:54] <hitter> jerry_l, so its not mounted
[04:54] <roasted> Question - I thought there was a way to install the .deb's contained in a PPA without actually installeng the PPA itself. Can anybody comment or correct me with where I'm wrong?
[04:54] <hitter> jerry_l, you need to, from a terminal, mount it somewhere
[04:55] <hitter> roasted, you can install without ppa verification by downloading and installing yes
[04:55] <roasted> hitter: how's that done? how do I get the debs out of the PPA without installing the PPA?
[04:55] <hitter> roasted, defeats the purpose of the ppa however as they are typically in development
[04:56] <roasted> hitter: the idea is to get the application installed thats in the PPA while avoiding use of a PPA. Just curious if it's possible.
[04:56] <hitter> roasted, view package details
[04:56] <roasted> hitter: I guess that's the same idea as adding the PPA, installing the package, but then removing the PPA. The app is still installed....
[04:57] <jerry_l> /dev/da1 on /mnt/mnt/sda1 type fuseblk ....
[04:57] <roasted> or at the very least unchecking them in software sources
[04:57] <roasted> which allows each re-checking to get updates if you see fit
[04:57] <jerry_l> & properties= /root/.pup_event/drive_sda1
[04:57] <hitter> roasted, if you dig through the ppa's page you can find the raw build for all versions
[04:57] <roasted> hitter: ounds good
[04:57] <roasted> +s
[04:57] <roasted> thanks for your time!
[04:58] <hitter> jerry_l, ok, so you simply need to do a cp /mnt/mnt/sda1/<<file>> to the second one
[04:59] <jerry_l> cp kool but what about rename file to file002.avi
[05:00] <hitter> cp /some/path/filename /some/other/path/differentfilename
[05:00] <hitter> yah
[05:01] <jerry_l> sounds good.
[05:01] <jerry_l> but how about making a executable out of it? click on it to run..
[05:02] <jerry_l> on windoz i just write a script and change the extension to cmd
[05:03] <jerry_l> and double click.
[05:05] <sarsaeol> anyone know how to set thecompiz static application switcher to not move focus? and to sow all workspaces?
[05:05] <rage0> hi
[05:05] <sarsaeol> the compiz*
[05:05] <anonymous> sup
[05:05] <rage0> i am having problem with apt-get install
[05:05] <anonymous> is anonymous os full of malware?
[05:05] <rage0> it seems to hang on getting headers
[05:05] <rage0> and the apt-get install update also hangs on "geting headers"
[05:05] <sarsaeol> rage0: have you apt-get updated?
[05:06] <Guest30354> .
[05:06] <rage0> ^^ how else to update -cant find it on USC
[05:06] <Guest30354> is the anonymous os full of malware???
[05:07] <fxhp> ?
[05:07] <bbpgrs> #mc
[05:07] <rage0> what is anon os?
[05:08] <Guest30354> the anonymous operating system.
[05:08] <Guest30354> u havent heard of it?
[05:09] <rage0> i have
[05:09] <rage0> but dont kno the details
[05:09] <Guest30354> do you know if its full of malware?
[05:09] <Guest30354> oh ok
[05:09] <rage0> waht do u think of tor?---tor os called tails
[05:11] <Guest83670> can anyone tell me how I can change the display of ubuntu in a virtual machine by chance? I cant get the menu to show at the top left
[05:14] <hitter> I'm looking for an alternative to keepassx or a fix to get it working in the taskbar
[05:14] <Deep6> anyone happen to know if there's an MS office support chan on freenode?
[05:15] <hitter> Deep6, ^ you just made my week. thank-you
[05:15] <Deep6> hitter: I know super lame
[05:15] <Deep6> but I am trying to do some bollocky status bar type stuff to render a bunch of obtuse things into something management can understand
[05:15] <Deep6> i.e. pretty status bars
[05:16] <Deep6> and I don't know how to do that, and figure I'd throw it out here
[05:17] <hitter> derrr. what is the c compiler package called please... build-....
[05:19] <SoftAurora> gcc
[05:20] <studio> can somebody tell me how can i program the terminal for this:when i open it i want to show some random messages that i have written
[05:20] <hitter> build-essensials I want to say but that's not right
[05:20] <studio> i want to see*
[05:20] <jagginess> studio, google "programming bash in linux"
[05:21] <hitter> type `PS1="yourmessagehere"
[05:21] <SoftAurora> echo in .bashrc
[05:28] <studio> jagginess:thanks
[05:35] <hitter> I'm looking for an alternative to keepassx or a fix to get it working in the taskbar
[05:35] <zykotick9> !info build-essential | hitter
[05:36] <johnny5isalive> Hi
[05:37] <johnny5isalive> Hi
[05:37] <johnny5isalive> Hi
[05:37] <johnny5isalive> Hi
[05:37] <FloodBot1> johnny5isalive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:37] <mi3> lol
[05:37] <hitter> love it
[05:37] <mi3> Isn't 1 "Hi" enough ?
[05:37] <hitter> never
[05:37] <johnny5isalive> need input
[05:38] <mi3> hitter: lol
[05:38] <johnny5isalive> need input
[05:38] <Hyperbyte> johnny5isalive, hi hi hi hi. :-)
[05:38] <hitman3r44_> hello...can any one tell me how to uninstall a program like tryton in ubuntu
[05:38] <mi3> see ! again'
[05:38] <johnny5isalive> need input
[05:38] <mi3> !ask johnny5isalive
[05:38] <mi3> !patience  johnny5isalive
[05:38] <Hyperbyte> hitman3r44_, apt-get remove tryton?
[05:38] <mi3> kidding me ?
[05:38] <Hyperbyte> mi3, |
[05:38] <Hyperbyte> Or >
[05:39] <iceroot> mi3: !foo | user
[05:39] <hitter> lol
[05:39] <hitter> excellent
[05:39] <mi3> ohh yeah
[05:39] <mi3> !patience  | johnny5isalive
[05:39] <hitman3r44_> hyperbytr...i install this software via "pip install command" this is a python command...
[05:40] <dwakar> pip uninstall it hitman
[05:40] <Hyperbyte> Hahah
[05:40] <hitman3r44_> thanks dwakar
[05:41] <Hyperbyte> It's interesting how johnny5isalive gets a huge amount of attention, and still leaves....
[05:41] <jerry_l> is ultra vnc good for both ways linux>windows and windows>linux and is recomended?
[05:41] <dwakar> i think he got confused hyperbyte
[05:42] <Hyperbyte> dwakar, it's not like IRC is rocket science though. :)
[05:42] <iceroot> jerry_l: i would suggest to use teamviewer instead, its faster
[05:42] <iceroot> jerry_l: but if you want vnc, yes its a good way
[05:42] <hitter> jerry_l, what? teamviewer is faster than what?
[05:42] <hitter> sorry ^ meant for iceroot
[05:42] <dwakar> yeah everything seems like a rocket science in the beggining hyperbyte
[05:42] <iceroot> hitter: vnc
[05:43] <jerry_l> i have alot of laptops and computers and want to be able to do stuff on which ever way ..
[05:43] <hitter> iceroot, I don't think so, and your forwarding traffic through servers that aren't yours with teamviewer
[05:43] <hitman3r44_> dwaker can you tell me what is this problem "MD5 hash of the package http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/t/trytond_health_profile/trytond_health_profile-1.6.2.tar.gz#md5=a70c3c58a007bd44324c00965f0ce29b (from http://pypi.python.org/simple/trytond_health_profile/) (13eda63f1fe14732f71112f1d8e12af6) doesn't match the expected hash a70c3c58a007bd44324c00965f0ce29b!"...every time i try to install with "pip install --user tryton_health_profile"...th
[05:43] <hitman3r44_> is messages shows....
[05:43] <hitter> iceroot, certainly not a suggestion I would recommend to anyone
[05:43] <hitter> solution rather
[05:44] <iceroot> hitter: no port-forwarding needed, no root-access needed to install like vnc
[05:44] <iceroot> hitter: the port forwarding is a very important issue, you dont want to support someone here to enable ports in there router, always a pain
[05:44] <hitter> jerry_l, why not use something like synergy with file sharing using samba and call it a day
[05:44] <dwakar> use paste hitman
[05:44] <dwakar> !paste
[05:45] <hitman3r44_> dwaker sry i don't get is "!paste"..??
[05:45] <jerry_l> :( i would like to use my laptop mouse (pup linux) to control the TV cpu winxp
[05:46] <hitter> iceroot, I agree it's a pain, but simply saying x third party software that opens up security holes is not something I would ever say because it's "easy"
[05:46] <iceroot> jerry_l: and puppy linux or win xp are related to ubuntu in what way?
[05:46] <gr33n7007h> How would I check the integrity of a iso file using the md5 hash?
[05:46] <iceroot> hitter: there are much bigger security holes on your system then teamviewer
[05:46] <iceroot> hitter: java, flash
[05:47] <hitter> gr33n7007h, you would have to have the orig md5 hash then compare it with one from the generated one on your machine
[05:47] <jerry_l> the ver of pup wasz  built from a striped ubuntu. puppy520 128mb
[05:47] <iceroot> jerry_l: not supported here
[05:47] <hitter> iceroot, I somehow doubt you are going to find me let alone get in... no offence
[05:47] <gr33n7007h> hitter, ok ;)
[05:48] <hitter> gr33n7007h, ie. md5sum <<filename>>
[05:49] <gr33n7007h> hitter, if it matches orig md5 hash it's integrity is in check?
[05:49] <hitter> gr33n7007h, you betcha
[05:49] <jerry_l> software KVM.... sounds magical...
[05:49] <gr33n7007h> hitter, cheers
[05:49] <MikeS11> This is a Nagios & Ubuntu question (But #nagios is quiet). The nagios-nrpe-plugin wants to install the mysql-common package. I know I can choose to not install this suggested package... but I want to why NRPE wants the mysql-common package?
[05:50] <hitter> MikeS11, what do the developers say about this? isn't nagios utilizing mysql somehow?
[05:52] <MikeS11> hitter: I have been 'googling' for why they say about it but no luck so far - hence the IRC. I'm still poking around though...
[05:53] <kanupatar> while connecting to a linux machine from a windows machine by vnc i am getting this error log "no connection couldnot be made because the target machine actively refused it"
[05:57] <Ger_> I need your help guys how can make unhide my computer networkicon is hide now
[06:02] <Ger_> how can make unhide my computer networ kicon is hide now  pls need ur help
[06:13] <NewLinuxer> Hello
[06:13] <NewLinuxer> Someone know a good streaming app?
[06:13] <TheDruidsKeeper> i love vlc
[06:14] <NewLinuxer> Or Distribution
[06:14] <NewLinuxer> I am looking for good dDistribution for streaming
[06:14] <jerryzhou> hi
[06:14] <NewLinuxer> I had just connected the PC to the TV using HDMI
[06:15] <NewLinuxer> and I want to make it a streamer
[06:15] <NewLinuxer> Any Ideas?
[06:15] <TheDruidsKeeper> doing a media center pc?
[06:15] <NewLinuxer> yep
[06:16] <TheDruidsKeeper> do you use a tv capture card?
[06:16] <NewLinuxer> I have cable TV to
[06:17] <TheDruidsKeeper> what are you trying to stream?
[06:17] <TheDruidsKeeper> just media that you have on the pc?
[06:17] <Super_Dog> Using HD Homerun Prime...
[06:18] <NewLinuxer> XBMC!!!!!!
[06:18] <blackshirt> hello matanya
[06:18] <matanya> hi blackshirt
[06:18] <NewLinuxer> This is a good streaming app
[06:19] <Super_Dog> XBMC on Raspberry pi...
[06:19] <NewLinuxer> I have no Raspberry Pi :(
[06:19] <NewLinuxer> I want one
[06:19] <Super_Dog> I've got an extra one...
[06:19] <blackshirt> matanya, in my place that's mean for "her eyes" :d
[06:19] <TheDruidsKeeper> Super_Dog: good choice.. i've been wanting a pi to stream to
[06:20] <Super_Dog> I wouldn't recommend it...
[06:20] <Super_Dog> Good for mp3's...
[06:20] <matanya> blackshirt:  what means her eyes?
[06:20] <TheDruidsKeeper> Super_Dog: not fast enough?
[06:20] <Super_Dog> Not for Hi-Def...
[06:20] <TheDruidsKeeper> :-/ maybe someday
[06:20] <NewLinuxer> Where you from?
[06:20] <Super_Dog> Perhaps Raspbmc needs to get tweaked...
[06:20] <Ububegin> Is there a script to print pdf files/txt files (duplex mode) to a printer from just command shell ?
[06:21] <blackshirt> matanya = her eyes :d
[06:21] <Super_Dog> Realize it's still super-beta stuff still.
[06:21] <chepecarlos> where I can find information such as free software developer
[06:21] <matanya> blackshirt:  what language ?
[06:21] <NewLinuxer> What is the best distribution in your opinion?
[06:22] <blackshirt> matanya, indonesian language :d
[06:22] <TheDruidsKeeper> NewLinuxer: you're asking that in an ubuntu chat room..
[06:22] <Ububegin> !lpr
[06:22] <Ububegin> ~lpr
[06:22] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, i think,that was old debate
[06:22] <NewLinuxer> I know :P
[06:22] <Super_Dog> Vegas...  Only putzed around with my pi a little so far...  No ubuntu for pi's Arm processor it seems...
[06:22] <Slart> !best | NewLinuxer
[06:23] <NewLinuxer> O...k...
[06:23] <NewLinuxer> O.O
[06:23] <Ububegin> Is there a script to print pdf files/txt files (duplex mode) to a printer from just command shell ?
[06:23] <Slart> NewLinuxer: the logic is the same for distributions as applications.. depends on what you're looking for/need
[06:23] <chepecarlos> queremos ser desarrollador y no se donde encontrar informacion, talvez pyton o
[06:24] <Super_Dog> I think Raspbmc working pretty good for local files right now... Blu-Ray hi-def Matroska running locally off SD Card or USB pretty impressive...
[06:24] <NewLinuxer> How kubuntu is?
[06:24] <NewLinuxer> I don't like the unity
[06:24] <Slart> Ububegin: "lpr", perhaps ?
[06:24] <chepecarlos> soy el encargado de una pequeño grupo y empezamos con una pequeñas clases de desarrollo de linux
[06:24] <dumnut_> hi, i want to network my two ubuntu computers by making them able to access the other computer's files, do i go to "edit connections" and choose "shared computers"?
[06:25] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, if you don't like one,you could choose another one
[06:25] <TheDruidsKeeper> Super_Dog: it can do hd off the sd card, just not streamed?
[06:25] <Super_Dog> dumnut... Usually your "home" directory will be shared by default...
[06:25] <Slart> NewLinuxer: create a live cd/live usb and try it.. both ubuntu and kubuntu (and the other variants, for that matter) are popular amongst different people
[06:25] <NewLinuxer> I love ubuntu but it made me problems
[06:25] <Ububegin> Slart: Knew that... But just wondering whether someone has a unified script which will print according to the file extensions
[06:25] <Slart> NewLinuxer: none of the official ubuntu versions is awful =)
[06:25] <NewLinuxer> I had to erase it from the partition
[06:26] <TheDruidsKeeper> NewLinuxer: you might also try mythbuntu for a media center, i liked it
[06:26] <NewLinuxer> OK :)
[06:26] <NewLinuxer> I love the gnome3
[06:26] <Super_Dog> TheDruidsKeeper> Basically that's what I'd say right now...  It can stream hi-def.  Don't get me wrong.  Just buffers and stutters...
[06:27] <fidel> ahoi
[06:27] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, what do you think about yourself?? Newbie,intermediete or experienced linux user?
[06:27] <dumnut_> hi Super_Dog, in my home directory, i see "browsed network" but i just see print$ and not files on other computer
[06:27] <Super_Dog> And I've tried it on Zentyal server that runs 10.04 LTS as a base...
[06:27] <NewLinuxer> Newbie
[06:27] <NewLinuxer> So so newbie
[06:27] <Slart> Ububegin: hmm.. I'm not sure I understand the entire question... you just want to print things from the command line? both regular text files and pdfs should work?
[06:27] <Super_Dog> That sucker does 20mbps on the worst machine in the network easy...  So I have to presume pi just isn't quite up to snuff...
[06:27] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, use something distro was easy to use
[06:28] <Super_Dog> However, can stream SD video pretty well.
[06:28] <NewLinuxer> I had used gnome3 then half of the screen became black -_-
[06:28] <NewLinuxer> ubuntu
[06:28] <TheDruidsKeeper> interesting
[06:29] <NewLinuxer> With cairo dock
[06:29] <Guest70473> nick Mike
[06:30] <Super_Dog> dumnut_ > You browsing towards a Windows box or are you browsing to an Ubuntu box...?
[06:30] <NewLinuxer> What do you say about openELEC?
[06:30] <Super_Dog> Haven't run OpenElec yet on my pi...  Anybody else?
[06:31] <NewLinuxer> On a regular PC
[06:31] <jeeves_moss> I've just installed BackTrack5 on a spare partition on my system (/dev/sda7), and I'd like to add it to GRUB.  How do I do that?
[06:32] <blackshirt> jeeves_mos, run update -grub, that would detect your backtrack
[06:33] <NewLinuxer> Friends I am trying openELEC
[06:33] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, one sec.
[06:33] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, what is the exact command?
[06:33] <NewLinuxer> maybe I will use windows 7 with a XMBC?
[06:34] <blackshirt> jeeves-mos, sudo update-grub
[06:34] <blackshirt> Run it on your ubuntu
[06:34] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, I've tried that.
[06:34] <NewLinuxer> Ubuntu TV?
[06:34] <NewLinuxer> Is it works?
[06:35] <blackshirt> jeeves-mos, or you can add it to grub manually
[06:35] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, I'm running ubuntu right now (not the the live version), and when I run grub-update, it won't see the other partition
[06:35] <dumnut> Super_Dog: i click on home folder, then under "network" click on "browse network" then i get "windows network" then click on that to gete "workgroup" then it only shows name of ocmputer then print$
[06:35] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, what is the file now that we're running on GRUB2 that I edit?
[06:36] <sirriffsalot> Hey! How do I make my home folder open in nautilus instead of thunar in xfce?
[06:36] <blackshirt> jeeves-mos, not grub-update, but update-grub
[06:36] <in_> hello everyone. Can anyone help me with a conky problem. I can not seem to set the cpu temperature correct. I have an amd cpu and am using kde
[06:37] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, it still dosen't see it.  :-(
[06:37] <sirriffsalot> in_, have you installed cpufreq-utils?:P
[06:37] <TheDruidsKeeper> jeeves_moss: try sudo update-grub2
[06:37] <blackshirt> jeeves-mos, try os-prober
[06:37] <NewLinuxer> Do you think that I need to delete windows 7 from my PC?
[06:37] <TheDruidsKeeper> NewLinuxer: ^ always a good idea
[06:37] <jeeves_moss> TheDruidsKeeper, still the same result
[06:38] <NewLinuxer> I hate windows
[06:38] <in_> no i installed conky-all. i suppose all the required soft's are in it
[06:38] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, maybe better :d
[06:38] <NewLinuxer> Fuck the backups
[06:38] <NewLinuxer> I am going to backup my windows
[06:39] <NewLinuxer> Then I will format the partition and install ubuntu
[06:39] <IdleOne> !language | NewLinuxer
[06:39] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, any other ideas?
[06:39] <jeeves_moss> TheDruidsKeeper, any other idea?
[06:39] <blackshirt> jeeves-moss, try to add manually...
[06:39] <goddard> NewLinuxer: ubuntu is the family friendly linux distro
[06:39] <NewLinuxer> I like the application store
[06:40] <NewLinuxer> Do you know how to fix the RTL flash problem maybe?
[06:40] <sirriffsalot> Hey! How do I make my home folder open in nautilus instead of thunar in xfce?
[06:40] <sirriffsalot> :p
[06:40] <Kartagis> I'm using 12.04 and cairo, and I sometimes find my computer non-responsive (frozen). any ideas=
[06:41] <blackshirt> jeeves-moss, if you will to learn, read it in /etc/grub.d/ directory
[06:41] <NewLinuxer> Cairo is the worst dock
[06:41] <jeeves_moss> blackshirt, thanks.
[06:41] <NewLinuxer> It had made my ubuntu's screen half black
[06:42] <blackshirt> newlinuxer, i think something goes trouble with your vga
[06:42] <NewLinuxer> No it's fine
[06:43] <NewLinuxer> I can see the dock
[06:43] <NewLinuxer> but just the dock and the background was black
[06:43] <NewLinuxer> Fedora/ Ubuntu?
[06:46] <blackshirt> mint
[06:50] <gr33n7007h> NewLinuxer, try this in terminal: gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
[06:51] <in__> conky sucks ass. No temp for CPU
[06:51] <in__> :(
[06:52] <jvm_> hi. i have an ubuntu 10.04 system one which random windows freeze ("turn gray") extremely often, preferably multiple at the same time. during these events, is there a typical cause?
[06:52] <magpie> jvm_ what exactly are you doing when these freezes occure?
[06:53] <blackshirt> jvm_, try to use vesa driver first
[06:53] <jvm_> during these events `top` shows low cpu usage.
[06:53] <Super_Dog> Anybody here good at fstab editing for network shares?
[06:54] <magpie> in__ : add ppa for jupitor and install it
[06:54] <jvm_> i suspected a hard disk trouble, and indeed the disk utility shows a hard disk with very low minimum read speed (33 mb/s)
[06:55] <jvm_> does this qualify as a possible cause?
[06:55] <magpie> in__   sorry mate, its jupiter and the webup8 team has the ppa and installation files
[06:55] <blackshirt> super_dog, what you need?
[06:55] <blackshirt> samba or nfs
[06:56] <Super_Dog> Samba...
[06:56] <Super_Dog> Ramming my head against a wall... Gotta be bad syntax but can't figure it out... Can mount in Nautilus so I know the connectivity is there...
[06:56] <Super_Dog> Want to mount the sucker at boot in fstab...
[06:57] <blackshirt> are you sure to do that?
[06:57] <jvm_> magpie, nothing of significance. surfing, listening to music, úsing thunderbird.
[06:57] <jvm_> blackshirt, how do i change to the vesa driver?
[06:59] <Super_Dog> Yep... Want to make it easy to do Rsync...
[06:59] <Super_Dog> I guess I could rsync temporarily from mount on .gvfs folder but that is accident waiting to happen...
[06:59] <blackshirt> super_dog, read fstab manual
[06:59] <blackshirt> Mount it with cifs type
[07:00] <Super_Dog> I rftm'd like a mutha... :-)
[07:00] <Super_Dog> rtfm'd
[07:00] <magpie> jvm_ let me see what i can get
[07:01] <Super_Dog> Tried this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[07:02] <Super_Dog> Tried cifs type...
[07:02] <Super_Dog> Here's my command in fstab:  "//ZentyalCJ/lvm%20root /mnt/zentyalcj cifs username=charlie,password=XXXXXX  0  0"
[07:03] <Super_Dog> I know I should do credentials file but one thing at a time - so I passed user and pw through in my fstab...
[07:04] <Kartagis> Super_Dog: have you installed smbfs package?
[07:06] <magpie> its damn hot around here
[07:06] <Super_Dog> Anybody try this psyDM stuff?
[07:07] <Super_Dog> Yep... smbfs is in there... Tried both cifs and smbfs...
[07:07] <alazare619> anyone got any ideas for a good qt file manager
[07:07] <totesmuhgoats> hi friends
[07:07] <Super_Dog> According to the guides, cifs is more up to date - smbfs is deprecated...
[07:07] <totesmuhgoats> anyone have any issues with mysterious muting in precise?
[07:07] <totesmuhgoats> my system that has been working fine for months just won't produce sound anymore
[07:08] <totesmuhgoats> drivers are loaded, devices show up in aplay -L
[07:08] <totesmuhgoats> mplayer shows it playing a file succesfully, so does vlc
[07:08] <totesmuhgoats> but no sound
[07:08] <totesmuhgoats> alsamixer shows nothing muted
[07:08] <totesmuhgoats> its a spdif device, iec958
[07:08] <SecretFire> is it possible to send a message to a computer that is connected via the same router in ubuntu
[07:09] <SecretFire> like a system message
[07:09] <totesmuhgoats> SecretFire: what do you mean by message?
[07:09] <ghostchick> SecretFire,  notify-send and a write command?
[07:09] <SecretFire> like the net send in windows
[07:09] <magpie> totesmuhgoats try this link it helped me    http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[07:10] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: thanks, i am just concerned because it was working fine the other day
[07:10] <magpie> totesmuhgoats no worries mate, hope it helps
[07:11] <SecretFire> ok, got the notify-send down, now how can i see the computers that are connected to the same connection
[07:11] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: thanks, i'll try it out, i've tried the first 2 steps, so i guess all that is left is to do the development driver
[07:11] <totesmuhgoats> which i'm not too keen on :(
[07:11] <magpie> :)
[07:11] <ghostchick> SecretFire,  via ssh maybe
[07:12] <magpie> whats the greek ubuntu channel ???
[07:12] <DJones> !gr | magpie
[07:12] <magpie> cheers mate
[07:14] <jillsmitt> where can i edit import folder list in rhythmbox?
[07:16] <alazare619> !best qt based file manager
[07:20] <fmoo> hey all, my /etc/resolv.conf file is a symlink to a file that doesn't exist (/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf).  it gets nuked every once in a while... not sure why.
[07:25] <magpie> getting hotter by the minut
[07:25] <magpie> e
[07:26] <magpie> ubuntu and kubuntu are sitting on a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g
[07:27] <muikae> Hey guys. I have a problem with gnome fallback, there's too much space between icons. Please take a look here: http://i.imgur.com/lVldy.png
[07:28] <fidel> muikae: how is that ...a problem? or what space-gaps wouldnt be a problem?
[07:28] <muikae> fidel: could you look at the screenshot?
[07:29] <fidel> i did
[07:29] <fidel> and i am sitting in front of a fallback session right now which has similar gaps - at least between some elements
[07:29] <muikae> ok, fidel. Isn't there too much space between them?
[07:29] <fidel> muikae: compared to what?
[07:30] <magpie> fidel is it a prob or perhaps a subjective issue?
[07:30] <muikae> fidel: Well, xchat for example, which has a tray icon is not so distant.
[07:30] <magpie> muikae have you tried to move the icons?
[07:31] <muikae> magpie, they can't be moved since they are a part of the notifications applet
[07:31] <fidel> muikae: here something to compare: https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/223435/public_trash/20120711_093018_ss.jpg
[07:32] <fidel> i still dont see a problem there - its design - not functional ;)
[07:32] <muikae> fidel. There's way more space between mine. Look at the bluetooth one, lol
[07:32] <fidel> muikae: does it appear recently?
[07:32] <magpie> fidel. he's right too much space
[07:32] <muikae> fidel: what do you mean?
[07:33] <magpie> muikae how long have you been seeing this?
[07:33] <totesmuhgoats> i have messages like this in my dmesg
[07:33] <fidel> can you see any pattern when that first happend on your box?
[07:33] <totesmuhgoats> http://pastebin.com/wjQGFarn
[07:33] <muikae> magpie: Since installing ubuntu?
[07:33] <fidel> i.e. havbing installed some updates or similar
[07:33] <totesmuhgoats> but i uninstalled mediatomb a long time ago
[07:33] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: you noob
[07:33] <magpie> muikae since day one? shit
[07:33] <jmad980> I mean hi
[07:33] <fidel> right now you are wild guessing - so search the pattern
[07:33] <muikae> yep
[07:33] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: what are you doing in these parts?
[07:33] <luftikuss> [GNOME ] What is the proper English name of the following device? '~$ gnome-control-center sound' > Audio > Output > Select a device for sound output »Built-in Audio Analog Stereo«
[07:33] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: trolling you, erm, helping :P
[07:34] <muikae> http://askubuntu.com/questions/69576/how-to-customize-the-gnome-classic-panel   . Found that, but the settings don't stick after logout/reboot. So it's useless
[07:34] <jmad980> That looks rather weird O_o
[07:34] <totesmuhgoats> how can i make sure mediatomb isn't starting with my pc? i don't see a script in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc*.d
[07:34] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: checked /etc/rc.local
[07:34] <jmad980> or whatever that is
[07:34] <magpie> totesmuhgoats. Install BUM, then take root access and disable it
[07:34] <jmad980> because it looks like it's starting in a weird way
[07:34] <jmad980> idunno
[07:35] <jmad980> Don't see why init would be complaining about a daemon
[07:35] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: it just says exit 0;
[07:35] <totesmuhgoats> i'll try bum
[07:37] <muikae> does anybody know how to fix that? :)
[07:37] <muikae> It's annoying
[07:37] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: nothing related to mediatomb in bum
[07:37] <totesmuhgoats> also, not sure why it would show up in dmesg
[07:38] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: sure it's not in rc.local or something weird like that? Only reason I could imagine init caring about it
[07:38] <jmad980> but I'm not even sure about that
[07:38] <Linuxephus> Anybody here familiar with Dnsmasq for Ubuntu (infer LM in my case) and whether it's actually needed versus the Dnsmasq-base that comes installed by default?
[07:38] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: are there any other files to check, rc.local is mostly empty
[07:38] <Linuxephus> P.S.-Installed the entire package and I've noticed a serious increase in speed when connecting to websites via webbrowsing (infer that as good).
[07:38] <auronandace> !mint | Linuxephus
[07:38] <arian> hello all can I install HUD on gnome shell?
[07:38] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: not that I can think of off the top of my head
[07:39] <magpie> totesmuhgoats have you change the fonts size via appearance? someguy fixed it trying out sizes
[07:39] <jmad980> O_o
[07:39] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: ?
[07:39] <magpie> totesmuhgoats im talking about the space issue, some guy fixed it through appearance and fonts-size-icons etc etc
[07:40] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: might have the wrong person, not experiencing a space issue
[07:40] <magpie> damn it you have the sound issue right?
[07:40] <magpie> sorry mate :)
[07:40] <magpie> did the link work?
[07:40] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: 2 issues, sound issue, but also this weird startup thing
[07:41] <Linuxephus> auronandace: Then I'll rephrase the question as such since it still applies to Ubuntu nonetheless...
[07:41] <magpie> goats: did the link worked out?
[07:41] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: i had already done the first 2 things, i'm reluctant to install the development drivers since it was working just a week ago
[07:41] <Linuxephus> Anybody here familiar with Dnsmasq for Ubuntu and whether it's actually needed versus the Dnsmasq-base that comes installed by default?
[07:41] <Linuxephus> Ta-da!
[07:41] <magpie> goats: you can always remove them
[07:42] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: this is true. i'll give it a try tomorrow, thanks for looking out
[07:42] <magpie> goats: what about issue 2 ? give me some info, whats seems to startup?
[07:42] <jmad980> O_o
[07:43] <totesmuhgoats> magpie: http://pastebin.com/wjQGFarn
[07:43] <totesmuhgoats> i have that in my dmesg
[07:43] <totesmuhgoats> i don't have that software installed anymore
[07:44] <totesmuhgoats> no script for it in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc*d
[07:44] <totesmuhgoats> and its showing up in dmesg for some reason which is weird
[07:44] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: I reconn it has to be starting somewhere abnormal for init to be complaining about it, can't imagine where though
[07:44] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: neither can i
[07:44] <totesmuhgoats> brb, gonna reboot
[07:45] <magpie> has anyone been experiencing problems with a screen-freeze when trying to lower the brightness?
[07:45] <Linuxephus> O_o
[07:45] <bekks> magpie: How do you try to lower brightness exactly?
[07:45] <magpie> bekks with the classic hotkey
[07:46] <bekks> magpie: With which classic hotkey?
[07:46] <Linuxephus> The problem lays with-in Unity itself in reference to "screen brightness".
[07:46] <magpie> bekks; the key that the laptop has, brightness up and down, F4 + F5
[07:46] <magpie> Linuxephus i dont use unity, im on xubuntu
[07:46] <Super_Dog> fstab wizards....  remember "\040"= a directory space in fstab...
[07:46] <totesmuhgoats> back
[07:46] <Linuxephus> Understood.
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> on a different pc now so i won't have to keep disconnecting if i need to reboot
[07:47] <magpie> goats: try and autoremove stuff from the terminal
[07:47] <Super_Dog> That kicked my butt for a good hour...
[07:47] <bekks> magpie: They're hardware keys. Unfortunately, I never heard of screen freezes when using them.
[07:47] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: still getting the errors?
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> magpie, you mean apt-get autoremove
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980, i am waiting for it to finish rebooing, i'll check once i can ssh in
[07:47] <magpie> bekks: i had this problem prior to my installation of the proprietary drivers, once i installed them it was fine, two days ago it started again
[07:48] <magpie> goats: yes that's the command
[07:48] <jmad980> bekks: could be the overlay causing the issues perhaps
[07:48] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: k
[07:48] <totesmuhgoats> yea, i am still getting the errors
[07:48] <totesmuhgoats> what the pee dawg
[07:48] <jmad980> lol
[07:48] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: outside of rc.local I don't know where to look, maybe you could grep through the files in /etc looking for any traces of mediatomb
[07:49] <totesmuhgoats> i did
[07:49] <totesmuhgoats> well i grepped an ls
[07:49] <totesmuhgoats> unless i need to be more comprehensive than that
[07:49] <magpie> bekks: im not talking about a classic freeze, im talking about the screen launching weird colors like its broke and then i have to restart by holding down the on/off button not through the panel
[07:49] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: ls doesn't look inside files
[07:50] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: I imagine it'd be a command in some file making it attempt to run or something
[07:50] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980, cat /etc/init.d/* | grep mediatomb ?
[07:50] <jmad980> That'd probably work too
[07:50] <jmad980> think grep can do it by itself, but I'm too rusty :P
[07:50] <totesmuhgoats> nothing
[07:51] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: maybe grep mediatomb *
[07:51] <jmad980> in /etc
[07:51] <magpie> its 30 degrees out there
[07:52] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980, some user and group stuff left behind
[07:52] <totesmuhgoats> in the passwd file
[07:52] <usc911> Hey guys, having a weird issue. I have 8 machines connected to an ubuntu box with a samba share. I have a static ip and am able to ssh in (using the static ip address) but I can ssh on the local network. Also none of the PC's can connect to the samba share. The ubuntu box can also access the internet fine, im really baffled, anyone seen this before?
[07:52] <jmad980> Weird
[07:52] <mistgabel>  i really need help to setup https in apache
[07:52] <mistgabel>  ssl.key and ssl.crt are in position
[07:52] <mistgabel> here is my error message
[07:53] <mistgabel> An error occurred during a connection to 172.16.1.52.
[07:53] <mistgabel> SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length.
[07:53] <mistgabel> (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[07:53] <mistgabel> it's a 1024 bit alg
[07:53] <mistgabel> too long?
[07:54] <usc911> Im am super stumped
[07:54] <magpie> hgoats are you trying to remove/purge mediatomb? im sorry mate, i wasnt paying attention to issue 2, is that what you are trying to do?
[07:54] <totesmuhgoats> magpie, i had the package installed a long time a go, i removed it but for some reason i get those errors in dmesg
[07:55] <magpie> ok copy paste this in terminal for starters:   sudo apt-get --purge remove mediatomb
[07:55] <magpie> goats: then this    sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:56] <totesmuhgoats> okie dokie
[07:56] <magpie> okily dokily
[07:57] <totesmuhgoats> magpie, okay, i did that.i am gonna try a reboot and see if it still shows up in dmesg
[07:57] <totesmuhgoats> also i am gonna try these development drivers
[07:57] <magpie> goats: also, when reboot hold shift down, enter grub and choose fix broken files, then reboot again
[07:58] <totesmuhgoats> magpie, i don't have a monitor connected at the moment, i'll try that on next boot if this didn't work
[07:58] <magpie> ok
[07:58] <magpie> the simpsons on skyone
[07:59] <mistgabel> jemand aus deutschland da?
[07:59] <magpie> mistgabel english
[07:59] <mistgabel> is that an order?
[07:59] <magpie> no man
[08:00] <mistgabel> i asked for a german guy
[08:00] <muikae> Could somebody help me solve this? : http://i.imgur.com/lVldy.png
[08:00] <auronandace> !de | mistgabel
[08:00] <magpie> mistgabel try ubuntu-de
[08:00] <mistgabel> aah thank you  magpie   kisses*
[08:00] <magpie> i am a dude!
[08:01] <mistgabel> hugs*
[08:01] <mistgabel> hehe
[08:01] <jmad980> lol
[08:01] <totesmuhgoats> nope, neither issue has been resolved
[08:01] <totesmuhgoats> but it is getting late and i have to be up early
[08:01] <magpie> jmad980 wanna share the huggings?
[08:01] <totesmuhgoats> so im going to bed
[08:01] <usc911> anyone got any kind of idea? I am stuck as
[08:01] <totesmuhgoats> thanks for the help magpie, jmad980
[08:01] <jmad980> magpie: :p
[08:01] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: pz
[08:02] <magpie> cheers mate
[08:02] <histo> usc911: are you saying you can't ssh in or you can?
[08:02] <usc911> I cann ssh in if I use the static ip, if I use the local ip it wont
[08:03] <usc911> just times out
[08:03] <histo> usc911: you mean static ip as in your Internet providers ip?
[08:03] <usc911> yep thats the one
[08:03] <usc911> which then forwards to my ubuntu box
[08:03] <histo> usc911: how are the machine networked?
[08:04] <usc911> all through a swith
[08:04] <usc911> all the other machines can access the internet, as can the server
[08:04] <histo> usc911: Other the other machines windows boxes or linux?
[08:04] <usc911> windows
[08:05] <usc911> so everything works bar being able to connect to the server on the local network
[08:05] <histo> usc911: In windows try windowskey+R then type in //internal.ip.of.ubuntu.machine
[08:06] <histo> usc911: substituting for you 192.168.xxx or whatever
[08:06] <uni4dfx> histo \\
[08:06] <histo> usc911: sorry \\ not //
[08:07] <histo> usc911: so it would be \\192.168.1.xxx
[08:08] <histo> usc911: also can you pastebin the results of sudo smbtree -L   on the ubuntu machine?
[08:08] <histo> usc911: and results of ifconfig
[08:08] <freeroute> so basically I want to install ubuntu on a PC without disk drive, but when I made the multiboot usb stick with YUMI and tried booting it from his PC it gave me this error - http://i.imgur.com/kodVy.jpg
[08:09] <histo> freeroute: yumi screwwed up somehow. Use unetbootin or another method to make the usb stick
[08:09] <usc911> doesnt seem to do anything at all
[08:09] <freeroute> now, from what I've understood the remedies could include moving the USB drive to top priority or renaming syslinux.cfg to isolinux.bin
[08:10] <freeroute> but the remedy that seems to work always seems to be reformatting the drive with FAT16 instead of FAT32
[08:10] <histo> freeroute: I would just format the thumbdrive and use methods listed on ubuntu.com
[08:10] <usc911> Im baffeled as to why I can ssh in externally, but I cannt ssh in or connect to samba internally on windows/mac/linux
[08:10] <freeroute> histo: but ubuntu.com mentions that you have to have a disk drive in order to boot from the usb drive
[08:10] <freeroute> I know, it's weird
[08:11] <histo> freeroute: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:11] <freeroute> so I guess my main concern would be to find out wether unetbootin is capable of formatting with FAT16
[08:11] <freeroute> histo: but I'm on linux :(
[08:11] <histo> freeroute: fat16 doesn't matter
[08:12] <histo> freeroute: then why are you using yumi?
[08:12] <histo> freeroute: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[08:12] <histo> usc911: can you open a terminal and pastebin the output of ifconfig please
[08:12] <freeroute> histo: I used YUMI because I had access to a windows PC before, but now I only have access to a Lubuntu machine
[08:13] <histo> freeroute: then follow the secton links instructions and use unetbootin
[08:13] <histo> freeroute: s/second/secton/
[08:14] <usc911> http://pastebin.com/H1PwgBXr
[08:14] <freeroute> histo: the second link uses startup disk creator, is it similar to unetbootin?
[08:15] <histo> freeroute: I believe it is unetbootin
[08:15] <jhesketh_> Howdy.. So if I have two IP's on one NIC (eg: eth0 192.168.0.10 and eth0:1 172.22.6.4) and the route table has nothing in it, I should still be able to ping both 192.168.0.1 and 172.22.6.1 from their respective subnet IP's right? Both IP's are have masks 255.255.255.0 (and assume the addresses they are pinging exists)
[08:15] <histo> usc911: what is eth0 and eth1 plugged into?
[08:16] <usc911> eth0 isnt plugged in, eth1 is a network card plugged in to the switch
[08:16] <AdvoWork> Hi there, A while ago I installed /ubuntu-10.04.3-server-amd64.iso on a VM, I can't remember how long ago this was now. Is that a LTS version or?
[08:16] <usc911> as I say the server can access the internet but nothing locally seems to want to connect
[08:16] <freeroute> histo: cool, in that case I'll download unetbootin and see how that goes (because afaik there's no startup disk creator in lubuntu)
[08:17] <zsolt> hello.should i buy a commercial license for mysql if i use it with opensource software?the license is a bit confusing
[08:17] <Kruptein> AdvoWork: yes 10.04 is lts
[08:18] <Kruptein> AdvoWork: there is a 10.04.4 in the meanwhile though
[08:18] <zsolt> i plan to use it for business,but not going to modify it
[08:18] <Kruptein> zsolt: which license does it use again?
[08:20] <histo> AdvoWork: yes 10.04LTS and 12.04LTS
[08:21] <histo> usc911: then how is eth0 getting an ip?
[08:21] <usc911> she lives!
[08:21] <histo> usc911: sudo ifconfgig eth0 down
[08:21] <usc911> disabled the onboard network card
[08:21] <usc911> cheers dude
[08:22] <histo> usc911: np ssh and samba were probably trying to listen on eth0 or something goofy
[08:23] <usc911> yeah for sure
[08:23] <usc911> appreciated dude
[08:25] <AdvoWork> can i update 10.04 to 12.04 (server) from the CLI? I have no gui access
[08:25] <histo> AdvoWork: yes
[08:25] <histo> !upgrade | AdvoWork
[08:25] <SwedeMike> AdvoWork: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html
[08:25] <histo> zsolt: http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.html
[08:26] <anonymous> hello
[08:26] <Kruptein> the mysql licensing policy is very vague
[08:26] <histo> hola
[08:26] <Guest88982> o_o
[08:26] <Guest88982> ok.
[08:26] <Guest88982> does anybody know if the anonymous os is full of malware?
[08:27] <ikonia> nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:27] <Guest88982> sorda
[08:27] <ikonia> we only support ubuntu in this channel
[08:27] <Guest88982> its based on ubuntu
[08:27] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu
[08:27] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channel
[08:27] <Guest88982> ok
[08:27] <Kruptein> indeed
[08:27] <histo> Kruptein: http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2009/02/17/when-are-you-required-to-have-a-commercial-mysql-license/
[08:28] <Guest88982> o_o
[08:28] <histo> zsolt: http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2009/02/17/when-are-you-required-to-have-a-commercial-mysql-license/
[08:28] <Kruptein> histo yh read that as well xD   but I didn't get wiser of it,
[08:29] <histo> Kruptein: I wouldn't buy a license and it depends on what he wants to do with it.
[08:29] <magpie> anyone from newcastle?
[08:29] <ikonia> magpie: why ?
[08:29] <Kruptein> histo: true  wouldn't buy one either
[08:30] <Guest88982> o.o
[08:30] <magpie> ikonia im bored i dont know
[08:30] <histo> !ot | magpie
[08:30] <Kruptein> and Guest88982 what's up with your eyes?
[08:30] <ikonia> magpie: ok, well this channel is for support only, so you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic, or #defocus for general chit chat
[08:30] <Guest88982> my eyes?
[08:30] <magpie> cheers mate
[08:31] <Kruptein> nvm
[08:31] <Kruptein> i would become ikonian's next target :3
[08:31] <Kruptein> *ikonia's
[08:33] <ubuntu> how to root user in ubuntu live cd?
[08:34] <Kruptein> sudo as always
[08:34] <Kruptein> sudo root without a password I think
[08:34] <histo> !root | ubuntu
[08:34] <histo> Kruptein: you could sudo su
[08:34] <Kruptein> histo true
[08:34] <ikonia> or not
[08:35] <Kruptein> but i never do it :p
[08:35] <ikonia> you could use the correct method of "sudo -i"
[08:35] <Kruptein> yup
[08:37] <AdvoWork> may be a silly question, but if ive installed ubuntu 10.04 server and only have CLI access, can i somehow get GUI access to it?
[08:37] <magpie> ikonia last time you havent explained why i cant type in terminal the command sudo  su -
[08:38] <ikonia> magpie: you can if you want
[08:38] <magpie> but?
[08:38] <magpie> is there a conflict?
[08:38] <ikonia> a conflict ?
[08:39] <magpie> you told me not to
[08:39] <ikonia> yeah, it's up to you if you follow my advice or not
[08:39] <magpie> some other guy said i shouldnt use sudo and su tomgether
[08:39] <histo> magpie: it jsut wether you want to load root's .profile
[08:39] <ikonia> magpie: yeah, it's up to you if you follow the other guys advice
[08:39] <histo> magpie: and some other things
[08:39] <AdvoWork> i've just seen this: According to Ubuntu 12.04 release notes, "It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading."   has that passed yet or?
[08:39] <magpie> so basically sudo su - will not  grant me root access?
[08:39] <ikonia> AdvoWork: not yes
[08:39] <ikonia> magpie: yes it will
[08:39] <DJones> AdvoWork: From memory, I think its the end of July for that release
[08:40] <histo> magpie: for instance if you sudo -s you will have root but home will be set as your users home and your path is screwed up etc...
[08:40] <magpie> i still dont see the difference with the two commands  sudo su -     and su -i
[08:40] <magpie> ok
[08:40] <histo> magpie: let me find the post that describes it hold on there are slight differences. sudo -i is the "proper" way
[08:40] <ikonia> magpie: one cheats the security system and drops you into the root users shell which is worthless to you
[08:40] <AdvoWork> ahh ok, what exactly is this first point release? i'm basically doing a new install(well upgrading 10.04 possibly) to then create a new server for something, so is it worth holding on?
[08:40] <histo> magpie: less chance of issues.
[08:40] <ikonia> magpie: the other grants you root privileges to your current user
[08:40] <ikonia> AdvoWork: 12.04.1
[08:40] <histo> magpie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[08:41] <magpie> so accorrding to histo i ought to try su -i   the proper way
[08:41] <ikonia> no
[08:42] <Kruptein> "sudo -i"
[08:42] <Kruptein> not "su -i"
[08:44] <ikonia> sudo -i
[08:44] <AdvoWork> ikonia, but why is it recommended to wait for that, just because a lot of fixes etc will have been comissioned for point 1?
[08:44] <histo> magpie: just use sudo -i and always use it
[08:44] <magpie> ikonia & histo thanks
[08:44] <histo> magpie: if you want to elevate to a root terminal atleast.
[08:44] <ikonia> AdvoWork: pretty much
[08:44] <histo> magpie: if you just want to run a command with root priveledges you sudo commandname
[08:44] <AdvoWork> ikonia, my issue is, i either take this base install of 10.04 and work with that, get everything setup and then have to migrate, or migrate to 12.04 now, don't really know which route to take
[08:44] <ikonia> AdvoWork: up to you
[08:44] <helpcrypto> hello
[08:44] <helpcrypto> can i ask here about bash, or should i go somwehre else, like #bash?
[08:44] <ikonia> helpcrypto: #bash is the best place for bash scripting
[08:44] <magpie> ikonia i have another question, in xubuntu currently 12.04, prior to the installment of proprietary drivers for the graphics card, the screen loads weird colors every time i would lower the brightness with F4 and would freeze like hell. Once i installed the drivers it was ok, two days ago it started again
[08:44] <helpcrypto> ok, thx
[08:44] <ikonia> magpie: you need the propritary drivers to make your card work, it's that simple
[08:44] <magpie> ikonia i did, i installed the recommended one from additional drivers
[08:44] <histo> magpie: what type of video card do you have?
[08:44] <magpie> histo ati something
[08:44] <magpie> 5000 series
[08:44] <ikonia> magpie: right, so what's the problem ?
[08:45] <magpie> ikonia: once i lower the nrightness with F4 it freezes again, goes into weird colors like its broken and i have to hard reset
[08:45] <histo> Kruptein: correct
[08:45] <ikonia> magpie: sounds like a bug
[08:46] <magpie> apparently yes but i havent found a solution yet
[08:46] <ikonia> magpie: you probably won't as they are propitary modules, no-one can see the source code to fix issues
[08:47] <magpie> ikonia: also, xubuntu 12.04 has a lot of crashes, is this normal? nothing important though, it reloads the crashed app but just for the heck of it
[08:47] <ikonia> I don't think it's "normal" most people find it quite stable
[08:48] <magpie> ikonia: like i said, no big deal, some standard apps crash and reload again, nothing to interfere with my work but its quite irritating
[08:48] <ikonia> I can appreciate that
[08:49] <Kruptein> i like your way of answering ikonia
[08:51] <magpie> ikonia: im also experiencing problems with video-freezing in smplayer, apparently i had that in mint and ubuntu as well, never found a solution to it, though i changed the video output and audio  as well
[08:51] <ikonia> magpie: it sounds (without digging deeper) like you have hardware compatability issues, and maybe hardware stability issues
[08:51] <magpie> but nothing happened, i dont have that problem when using vlc or mplayer, just smplayer
[09:01] <Guest20513> run
[09:04] <Metzee> !help
[09:05] <TheBadger412> how do I set up a static ip to use incase my dhcp one isnt working... i have dhcp setup for work but when I take my laptop home I want it to use another static one when the dhcp one fails
[09:06] <Metzee> hello all
[09:06] <Metzee> I want deface a website
[09:06] <Metzee> can help me?
[09:06] <DJones> Metzee: No, thats not a subject for this channel, or the freenode network
[09:06] <arian-> can i install HUD on gnome shell?
[09:07] <Metzee> what`s subject of this channel???
[09:07] <rocki34> Metzee: Ubuntu support.
[09:08] <Metzee> ow.....How I can Play Pes2012 on BT5?
[09:08] <DJones> !backtrack | Metzee
[09:09] <Metzee> Ow.......Sorry my bad english
[09:09] <rocki34> Metzee: PES 2012 isn't compatible with linux
[09:09] <LjL> Metzee: i'm tempted to just remove you, instead i won't, but rest assured i will next time you say anything that's not a relevant support question or answer for Ubuntu.
[09:09] <kanupatar> how can i add a user to the sudoers?
[09:09] <Metzee> why Pes 2012 isn`t compatible with linux?
[09:10] <Kruptein> rocki34: there is always wine
[09:10] <chu> /31/20
[09:10] <rocki34> Kruptein: I don't know, haven't had much luck with it. It only works with some games
[09:11] <Metzee> what games is support on ubuntu???
[09:11] <LjL> !games > Metzee
[09:11] <DJones> Metzee: You're using Backtrack, not Ubuntu, see the link I gave earlier, that tells you which channel to ask about backtrack support in
[09:11] <Kruptein> Metzee   the majority of commercial games are build for windows,  trough some  programs like wine some might work
[09:12] <Metzee> Kruptein: what OS you Using?
[09:12] <fresh-nes> During the boot of my pandaboard, I have : "Starting load fallback graphics devices[OK]" ... then "Starting load fallback graphics devices[fail]" And so, my HDMI output doesn't display anything. Any idea ?
[09:12] <Kruptein> Metzee that is not relevant at all   but as I'm in this channel one could assume that i use ubuntu
[09:12] <fresh-nes> I boot Linaro distro with kernel 3.4
[09:13] <Kruptein> Metzee I would quickly change channels or change attitude if I were you
[09:13] <Metzee> Kruptein: Please give me a channel for backtrack
[09:13] <LjL> Metzee: already given. #backtrack-linux
[09:14] <Metzee> #backtrack-linux :Cannot send to channel.............What this error?
[09:14] <Kruptein> Metzee LjL was so friendly to give it to you twice
[09:14] <LjL> Metzee: you need to register to freenode
[09:15] <LjL> !register > Metzee
[09:15] <Kruptein> and Metzee the channel does exist
[09:15] <Metzee> there people at indonesia here?
[09:15] <JumpAndroid> Where is android channel
[09:15] <LjL> !id | Metzee
[09:15] <JumpAndroid> on freenode
[09:15] <LjL> JumpAndroid: #android
[09:15] <JumpAndroid> server\
[09:15] <anthony__> I'm trying to diagnose my low usb write speeds.  dstat says around 3800k for the duration, whereas dd says 6.3 Mb/s.  also, dstat continues to display the same write speeds for around 15 seconds after exiting dd.  what's going on?
[09:16] <_ruben> anthony__: that's caching and buffering going on
[09:16] <anthony__> _ruben, thanks
[09:16] <makk> @kanupatar you got an anwser?
[09:17] <anthony__> _ruben, which is more accurate for the purposes of writing the old 700MB file at a sensible speed?
[09:18] <_ruben> anthony__: not sure what you're asking
[09:19] <fresh-nes> Does anyone use the pandaboard with the kernel 3.4 ?
[09:19] <Kruptein> what is that lol, googling it right away
[09:20] <rocki34> Question: I'm experiencing problems with my touchpad. Sometimes it works well, but other times it just starts lagging and not responding to my touch accurately. Anyone know what's going on?
[09:21] <anthony__> _ruben, my bad.  I'm trying to sort out low usb write speeds.  write speeds reported by nautilus are around 3.5MB/s, which is rather slow.  my question is which reading is more accurate?  dstat or dd?
[09:22] <_ruben> anthony__: quite likely the lowest number of all, the higher number quite likely show how fast it got written to the cache/buffers
[09:23] <anthony__> _ruben, thanks
[09:24] <luftikuss> [GNOME ] What is the proper English name of the following device? '~$ gnome-control-center sound' > Audio > Output > Select a device for sound output »Built-in Audio Analog Stereo«
[09:25] <erdos> hello!
[09:26] <erdos> how can i recursively search for a file in the shell? i need to find httpd.conf
[09:27] <gudjon> requesting help with dnsmasq ubuntu 11.04
[09:28] <Monotoko> erdos: http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/unix/findcmd.htm
[09:28] <arian-> hello guys
[09:28] <arian-> is there any
[09:28] <arian-> helper?
[09:28] <arian-> ha?
[09:28] <FloodBot1> arian-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <histo> erdos: locate httpd.conf
[09:28] <Monotoko> erdos, namely: find / -name httpd.conf
[09:28] <erdos> oh that's easy!
[09:28] <erdos> thank you :)
[09:28] <histo> erdos: or if you want to recursively search your commands hit ctrl+r in a shell to invoke a reverse history search. Then start typing httpd
[09:30] <histo> Monotoko: locate is much faster it keeps a db
[09:30] <histo> Monotoko: it's part of mlocate
[09:30] <Monotoko> histo, sorry... ol' timer here :P
[09:31] <histo> Monotoko: nah hear that.
[09:31] <histo> Monotoko: people should know about find also
[09:31] <histo> and apropos etc...
[09:31] <histo> man
[09:32] <Monotoko> I had to tell someone to man their grep once... you can imagine the reaction :)
[09:32] <Kruptein> xD
[09:32] <gudjon> Hi, i had a setup sharing my internet with two eth interfaces.. using iptables/dnsmasq..  i formatted and this is not working now. DNSMASQ dont start up port 53 in use
[09:33] <Monotoko> sorry, grep their man, haven't had my first coffee yet!
[09:34] <sergeantcupcake> Hey all! What do I need to do to enable javascript to run on my machine?
[09:34] <arian--> how i can unistall kde workspace plasma
[09:34] <Kruptein> man their grep still sounded awesome :p
[09:34] <Kruptein> but grep their man makes more sense yh
[09:36] <sergeantcupcake> Hey how does one enable javascript in ubuntu 12.04?
[09:36] <dooglus> sergeantcupcake: it's enabled by default
[09:36] <sergeantcupcake> I think I accidentally uninstalled it...
[09:37] <sergeantcupcake> dooglus: how do i get it back?
[09:37] <dooglus> sergeantcupcake: it's built into your browser
[09:37] <dooglus> you're using firefox?
[09:37] <sergeantcupcake> dooglus: yup
[09:37] <erdos> that would just be in ff settings
[09:37] <gudjon> Anyone here that can help me with DNS server
[09:37] <dooglus> sergeantcupcake: edit > preferences > content > enable javascript
[09:38] <sergeantcupcake> dooglus: what i was trying to say was that I don't have javascript. I need to know how to get it back.
[09:38] <Zyclops> hi.. my server just got hacked
[09:38] <Zyclops> building a new one
[09:38] <sergeantcupcake> dooglus: i accidentally removed my entire jre
[09:38] <Zyclops> i'd love some tips
[09:38] <dooglus> sergeantcupcake: run firefox, click 'edit', then 'preferences', then 'content' and check 'enable havascript'
[09:38] <dooglus> seyou don't need a jre to run javascript
[09:38] <fidel> Zyclops: do you know how the old one was hackeD?
[09:38] <dooglus> sergthat's only for java
[09:39] <Zyclops> i'm not sure, lots of segfaults, could be ssh buffer overflow
[09:39] <dooglus> sergeantcupcake: why am I having a hard time completing your name?
[09:39] <Papa-Smurf> Hi! How i can get back my tty's when pressing ctrl+alt+F2....F3?? I've got some problems after installing NVIDIA drivers
[09:39] <sergeantcupcake> because its long an has a lot of vowels. hey thanks for your help. i gotta go! :)
[09:40] <dooglus> Papa-Smurf: back to the graphical interface you mean?  alt-f7
[09:40] <dooglus> Papa-Smurf: or alt-rightarrow repeatedly
[09:40] <gudjon> need help with dns server
[09:40] <fidel> Zyclops: tips what for?
[09:40] <Zyclops> building a new server
[09:41] <Zyclops> and locking it down
[09:41] <AdvoWork> Does anyone know if /etc/apache2/httpd.conf should be empty in 12.04? not sure if an upgrade has removed it or?
[09:41] <Zyclops> it's a webserver
[09:41] <fidel> Zyclops: and what is the issue there in detail?
[09:41] <fidel> Zyclops: or what kind of tips are you looking for?
[09:41] <fidel> !details > Zyclops
[09:41] <Papa-Smurf> dooglus, no i want the terminal tty i mean pressing ctrl+alt+F2
[09:41] <Zyclops> ok i'm doing up a pastie
[09:43] <dooglus> Papa-Smurf: can you ask the question more clearly please?  what is "get back my tty's"?
[09:43] <Papa-Smurf> dooglus, Sure
[09:43] <gudjon> i really need some help with my dns/dhcp server setup no internet at home
[09:44] <Papa-Smurf> dooglus,  my problem is that when i press ctrl + alt + F3.....4... the screen is just black :(
[09:45] <Papa-Smurf> there should be a tty asking for login and password
[09:45] <gudjon> are me messages not shown ? or isint anyone who can help me ?
[09:46] <_ruben> gudjon: try asking more specific questions
[09:46] <fresh-nes> gudjon : I see... but I can't help :(
[09:46] <__Hayes__> Hello, L3top, geirha :)
[09:46] <gudjon> okey that nice to know you see the message :P
[09:46] <Papa-Smurf> hey
[09:46] <Papa-Smurf> hello???
[09:46] <gudjon> I can't start my dnsmasq port in use
[09:47] <__Hayes__> I am unable to install java6? Can somebody help :)
[09:47] <_ruben> gudjon: then you probably already have dhcpd and/or named already running
[09:47] <_ruben> gudjon: or even another instance of dnsmasq
[09:49] <dooglus> PapaSmurf007: oh, I see.  I don't know, sorry.
[09:49] <gudjon> how can i find if and where/what dhcpd im using
[09:50] <dooglus> gudjon: ps -ef | grep dhc
[09:50] <_ruben> gudjon: one way would be to inspect the output of sudo netstat -lntup and look for the ports 53, 67 and 68
[09:50] <zzz> hello can any body answer
[09:51] <Zyclops> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kmlv2jBuD-BOpnTc3b4g18ZJVdS-ubhD_pdmrZCNV-w/edit
[09:51] <rudivs> I am trying to get my android 1.6. phone to share its connection through usb tether to 12.04. It used to Just Work. Not so much anymore. Ubuntu sees it - if I click on the network indicator it says `Wired Network (HTC Android Phone); disconnected`. Android thinks it's sharing the connection. Any ideas for troubleshooting?
[09:51] <_ruben> android 1.6 .. wow
[09:51] <rudivs> _ruben, if it aint broke...
[09:52] <_ruben> it it aint broke doesnt mean it cant be improved either :)
[09:52] <Zyclops> I've posted the account above.. i'd like to get some tips on harderning the security against hackers..  i have policies for passwords (minimum random 20 chars).  Locking the server SSH to three ip addresses
[09:52] <Zyclops> running an incoming and an outgoing firewall.. running all the applications as separate users
[09:53] <Zyclops> changing all the filepermissions so it's the minimum each application needs
[09:53] <Zyclops> any other ideas?
[09:55] <fresh-nes> How can I defer initcalls during the boot with the kernel 3.3 ? please
[09:57] <L3top> morning __Hayes__. Are youtrying to install sun java or free java?
[09:58] <gudjon> i had two intances of dnsmasq running. where can i adjust witch one starts up
[09:59] <__Hayes__> Hey, L3top, actually, I am trying to install one application, and it giving up error, "Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java-jre", nad I have no clue, what to do.
[09:59] <rogst> I have an issue with Skype 4 on Linux, it won't remember my settings and the config.xml file inside .Skype is zero bytes which makes eCryptfs spam messages in kern/syslog, anyone else experiencing this ?
[10:01] <numberto> Hi guys, how do I find out what wifi chipset I have?
[10:01] <jpds> numberto: $ lspci
[10:01] <L3top> You need sun java, which was purchased by oracle, who went all jerky with the license so it is no longer available in repos. If this package is trying to install it, I am assuming it is something from a ppa __Hayes__. You can download and install it from oracles website, or you can take the much easier route and install the package from a PPA.
[10:02] <__Hayes__> I have downloaded the sun java registered it and and installed, but still I am getting the same error!!
[10:02] <jpds> L3top: PPAs distributing Oracle Java are forbidden.
[10:03] <L3top> I am not sure that is accurate. It works like the flashplugin-installer. It still gets the package from oracle jpds. One moment.
[10:03] <L3top> s/package/files/
[10:04] <Pkj> how can i make ubuntu wait for all remote shares (nfs) while booting
[10:04] <jpds> L3top: Ah, that should be fine.
[10:04] <bekks> Pkj: By adding the _netdev option in the fstab.
[10:04] <Pkj> that option is already there
[10:05] <fresh-nes> Does anyone know how to defer initcalls from the boot, for kernel 3.4 ? please
[10:05] <L3top> jpds __Hayes__ see http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/01/sun-java-6-now-can-be-installed-on.html
[10:05] <Pkj> it's not that it's not working, the problem is, that the homefolders aren't mounted, the instant after the boot, which means if somebody logs in, it fails
[10:05] <Tanvir> Hello, I want to change DNS server address to Google Public DNS. Does anybody can help me to do that in Ubuntu? I found a guide here: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using but I don't really understand the sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf part. Thank you.
[10:06] <jpds> Tanvir: That opens the text editor?
[10:07] <Tanvir> Jpds, no, it opens in command line.
[10:07] <jpds> Tanvir: Try: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf -- if you've never used vi before.
[10:07] <Tanvir> Ah okay, doin.
[10:08] <candrea> Tanvir: I'm sure there's a way to change DNS information without using the terminal, let me check
[10:08] <Tanvir> Candrea, okay, thanks!
[10:08] <Tanvir> Jpds, I did it, I see "nameserver 127.0.0.1" there. That's my ISP's one.
[10:08] <Tanvir> Now how to add others?
[10:08] <bekks> Tanvir: No.
[10:09] <bekks> 127.0.0.1 is you localhost.
[10:09] <Tanvir> Beeks, excuse me?
[10:09] <Tanvir> Oh right.
[10:09] <luftikuss> [GNOME ] What is the proper English name of the following device? Is it '~$ gnome-control-center sound' > Audio > Output > Select a device for sound output >  »Built-in Audio Analog Stereo« ?
[10:10] <SpacePoet> hi. if i had a fat32 partition mounted what will be the files' permissions?
[10:10] <__Hayes__> L3top: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EA8F35793D8809A
[10:11] <Tanvir> I saved the Google ones there.. gotta restart, BRB.
[10:11] <jpds> Tanvir: You don't need to restart for a DNS change.
[10:11] <Tanvir> Jpds, oh? Google says so on that page though.
[10:12] <sergeantcupcake> Hey all! I have the OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime, but Javascript won't run in my Firefox. What's the problem?
[10:12] <Tanvir> Okay, how can I check the change?
[10:12] <geirha> SpacePoet: You have to specify that when mounting. Otherwise some default is used (which I don't remember what is)
[10:14] <sergeantcupcake> Anyone?
[10:14] <saitek> javascript isn't the same of java
[10:14] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: javascript is completely unrelated to java
[10:14] <python> python
[10:15] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: my browser cant run javascript. it says it is missing. how do i fix it?
[10:15] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Are you sure it's complaining about javascript and not java? what's the exact error message? perhaps a screenshot?
[10:17] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: I get an error message when I come across a javascript object that says that I ned javascript to display it
[10:18] <magpie> cupcake do you have java installed?
[10:18] <saitek> sergeantcupcake: paste the code
[10:18] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Does this page work? http://javatester.org/javascript.html
[10:18] <Tanvir> Jpds, I did the change, how can I found out that it is working?
[10:18] <sergeantcupcake> magpie: I don't think so. Where do I get it?
[10:18] <gudjon> i have two interfaces eth0 : connected to internet,  eth1 : connected to rounter(for inhouse wireless) can i confirm my eth1 has access to internet via terminal in my server computer?
[10:19] <jpds> Tanvir: Do some DNS queries with a tool like 'dig'.
[10:19] <magpie> ubuntu-restricted-extras if you have ubuntu,
[10:19] <L3top> __Hayes__: sudo -i   then gpg="93D8809A"; gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys $gpg; gpg --export --armor $gpg | apt-key add -;
[10:19] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: it said javascript is not working in my browser
[10:19] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Then you have to enable it in the browser settings
[10:20] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: i did, but it still doesnt work. i think im missing javascript alltogether
[10:20] <nag_> hi all, is there any tool for recovering the password for rar
[10:20] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Test it with a clean firefox profile. E.g. switch to the guest account and try firefox from there.
[10:21] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: ill do that. hang on a sec.
[10:21] <jpds> L3top: One can do: apt-key adv --recv-keys $KEYID -- directly.
[10:21] <Costeelation> :)
[10:21] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: If that works, there's something in your current firefox profile that's wrong. (Hard to say what exactly). I'd consider just creating a new, fresh profile.
[10:22] <magpie> maybe cupcake didnt install it
[10:22] <__Hayes__> L3top: same error after apt-get update
[10:22] <LjL> nag_: http://rarcrack.sourceforge.net/
[10:22] <magpie> i thought one should install it trough ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:22] <L3top> can you please pastebin the key add  from terminal?
[10:23] <ranjan> hi all , how can i disable usb-storage devices in ubuntu?
[10:23] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: yeah it worked perfectly
[10:24] <gudjon> is there any tool to make a virtual device that connect's to one of my interfaces to test
[10:24] <L3top> ty jpds.
[10:24] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: you mean to create a new user profile, or uninstall and then reinstall firefox?
[10:24] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Right, do you have a lot of bookmarks or other stuff you want to keep?
[10:24] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: no
[10:24] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Create a new user profile. Reinstalling firefox will have absolutely no effect
[10:25] <magpie> geirha isnt java in the package restricted-extras?
[10:25] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Close firefox, NOT by clicking the X in the corner, do File -> Quit on the menu.
[10:25] <geirha> magpie: javascript != java
[10:25] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: will I lose all my saved files and stuff if i do this?
[10:25] <nag_> thnx LJL
[10:25] <magpie> geirha i thought he said he didnt have java installed
[10:25] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: open a terminal and run   mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup
[10:26] <L3top> ok __Hayes__... remove that ppa. evidently I misunderstood what was going on and jpds was correct. Read here http://blog.flexion.org/2012/01/16/install-sun-java-6-jre-jdk-from-deb-packages/
[10:26] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: I dont think i need that unless im going to create a new user account. i dont have any bookmarks im worried about
[10:26] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: No, the downloaded files will not be affected, though they'll disappear from the browser's list of files you've downloaded. But again, the files themselves will still be there
[10:27] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: ok, walk me through how to do this
[10:27] <AdvoWork> You know in Unity, if i've got say 5 x a program open, so 5 different terminals, if i click the terminal, it only takes me to one terminal, how do I get a list of them all(open ones)? i have to alt-tab/guess to get to my others :S
[10:27] <L3top> thsi does the same thing only backwards, building the deb locally out of the packages it downloads jpds and __Hayes__
[10:27] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: open a terminal and run   mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup   that renames the .mozilla dir to .mozilla.backup. Next time you run firefox, it won't find any settings, so it'll create some fresh new ones.
[10:27] <catphish> is it possible to programatically check that a given list of packages are all installed?
[10:27] <XiRoN> Hi, I was wondering how I could give the user account "www-data" root privileges.
[10:28] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: what exactly do I type. I have only a newbie's understanding of the terminal
[10:29] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: The part after this colon : mv -v .mozilla .mozilla.backup
[10:30] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: ok hang on
[10:31] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: it said: `.mozilla' -> `.mozilla.backup'
[10:31] <AdvoWork> I've got something installed on my system (Zynatel), is this a default bit of ubuntu software or something i have installed in the past?
[10:31] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: Good, the directory has been renamed. Now start firefox as normal
[10:32] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: drumroll please...
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  use byobu/screen, many terminals in 1 screen, f2 to create one, f3 and f4 to switch
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> in 1 screen = in 1 window
[10:33] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: Success! Thanks so much for your time!
[10:33] <geirha> sergeantcupcake: great :)
[10:33] <sergeantcupcake> geirha: Thanks again! God bless! :)
[10:33] <XiRoN> Hi, I was wondering how I could give the user account "www-data" root privileges.
[10:35] <AdvoWork> MonkeyDust, i'm using terminator which is a similar thing I think, i like being able to have them on different workspaces etc though
[10:35] <Kartagis> I did something to cairo-dock (I don't remember what) and now I can't see a program's additional windows. any ideas how to revert that?
[10:35] <geirha> XiRoN: If you did that, your system would be owned within minutes
[10:36] <zatan> hey, how to set by default for user to use "bash" ?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> zatan  bash is the default, what goes wrong?
[10:36] <geirha> zatan: Did you create this user with the useradd command?
[10:36] <zatan> geirha, yes
[10:36] <geirha> zatan: If so, don't use useradd. Use adduser instead. It sets sane defaults
[10:36] <Kartagis> zatan: /etc/default/useradd
[10:37] <geirha> zatan: Anyway, chsh can be used to change login shell on existing users
[10:39] <auronandace> !dash
[10:39] <XiRoN> geirha: How so? :O
[10:40] <zatan> geirha, so with "chsh" what do i need to change in to it? at the momemt default is /bin/sh  ??
[10:41] <Papa-Smurf> wassup man
[10:41] <Papa-Smurf> :)
[10:41] <Papa-Smurf> i want to mount a partition
[10:41] <auronandace> !mount | Papa-Smurf
[10:41] <Papa-Smurf> with writable permits
[10:42] <Papa-Smurf> auronandace, thanks
[10:42] <geirha> zatan: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash theusername
[10:42] <Papa-Smurf> how can in mount this partition always with writable permits
[10:42] <auronandace> !fstab | Papa-Smurf
[10:42] <zatan> geirha, cheers all working fine , need to make notes for this ;)
[10:42] <geirha> XiRoN: How so what?
 XiRoN: If you did that, your system would be owned within minutes
[10:43] <geirha> XiRoN: Oh that one. Well, any tiny hole in the webserver or its appllications would give an attacker instant root access
[10:45] <XiRoN> So my system would only be vulnerable if I were a bad PHP programmer?
[10:45] <BotaniCar> Can you recomend me a helpdesk software able to handle ~1000 users , and be hostable on Ubuntu. Ty
[10:45] <jpds> BotaniCar: Helpdesk software?
[10:45] <bekks> BotaniCar: OTRS
[10:45] <BotaniCar> Ty
[10:46] <geirha> XiRoN: Or if there's a security hole in php or the webserver
[10:47] <Kartagis> I did something to cairo-dock (I don't remember what) and now I can't see a program's additional windows. any ideas how to revert that?
[10:47] <catphish> BotaniCar: http://sirportly.com
[10:48] <Axsuul> How do I go about changing the swappiness value? `sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness` gives me permission denied
[10:49] <XiRoN> How do I run a bash as root without giving "www-data" root privileges, I tried sudo but am struggling, I used to use windows so it's a big change for me.
[10:49] <catphish> Axsuul: you need to do that as root
[10:49] <catphish> Axsuul: sudo echo > somewhere only runs echo as root
[10:50] <bekks> XiRoN: "sudo -i"
[10:50] <Axsuul> catphish: thanks
[10:51] <nag_> hi how can i install C-compiler in ubuntu
[10:51] <gudjon> need to test my second interface (witch has dhcp/dns) to confirm its working.. any tools to do that ?
[10:51] <magpie> does anyone know why ktorrent has higher speeds and transmission doesnt? i havent enabled firewall so it should be the same for both apps
[10:51] <geirha> XiRoN: you give www-data permission to run that one script as root without requiring a password. You do that in sudoers. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:52] <catphish> nag_: install build-essential, that includes gcc
[10:52] <XiRoN> geirha: You're a legend
[10:52] <catphish> and associated tools
[10:52] <auronandace> magpie: using the same connection and torrents?
[10:52] <geirha> XiRoN: Of course, you better make sure that script doesn't have any bugs. I.e. make sure it's not using eval, no unquoted parameter expansions etc
[10:53] <magpie> auronandance yes mate, and sorry but my firewall is enabled and both ktorrent and transmission are allowed in/out
[10:53]  * zone-death hallo :)
[10:54] <auronandace> magpie: any throttling enabled on either?
[10:54] <magpie> auronandace: how do i check that?
[10:55] <nag_> catphish: could you give me exact cmd. I tride to use "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[10:55] <XiRoN> geirha: Can you help me to understand that article a little more, I'm very new to linux and this is crucial for my open source project :)
[10:55] <auronandace> magpie: check the preferences, by default there should be any in transmission, not sure of ktorrent (i don't use it)
[10:55] <catphish> nag_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:55] <magpie> auronandace: as i said, i allow both apps in and out (rules)
[10:55] <catphish> that installs gcc and some other tools that are normally needed for building software
[10:55] <auronandace> magpie: sorry, shouldn't be by default
[10:56] <nag_> catphish: thnx
[10:56] <geirha> XiRoN: Ah, I seem to remember it explaining how to edit the sudoers file. There's the man-page of sudoers at the bottom at least
[10:56] <magpie> auronandace: i know they werent there by default, should i remove the rules for both apps from firewall?
[10:56] <rudivs> is there some system setting to allow or deny temporary group membership? If I try to run 'sudo -g internet -s' I get "user rudivs is not allowed to execute '/bin/bash' as rudivs:internet"
[10:56] <auronandace> magpie: i mean the apps themselves, not the firewall
[10:56] <geirha> XiRoN: Ah, there we go, it was a separate page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[10:57] <XiRoN> geirha: Yeah i got it thanks :)
[10:58] <auronandace> !pm | magpie
[10:59] <magpie> transmission preferences are default i havent tweaked them
[10:59] <auronandace> magpie: then i don't know why the speed difference
[11:00] <auronandace> magpie: the torrents are using different peers maybe? (i'm grasping at straws here)
[11:01] <magpie> never mind mate
[11:01] <gudjon> need to test my second interface (witch has dhcp/dns) to confirm its working.. any tools to do that ?
[11:01] <XiRoN> geirha: sudo <command> `openssl passwd blahblah`    shouldn't that work?
[11:01] <XiRoN> geirha: sudo <command> -p `openssl passwd blahblah`    shouldn't that work? [correction]
[11:02] <geirha> XiRoN: no
[11:02] <xgl___> hi all
[11:02] <XiRoN> Meh I'm hopeless
[11:02] <nag_> hi , i have a rar file with password. i was unable to open that. Can any body tell me how to open that. Any recovery s/w
[11:03] <auronandace> !rar | nag_
[11:03] <geirha> XiRoN: It merely changes the password prompt from "[sudo] password for yourusername:" to a passwordhash
[11:04] <nag_> ubottu: i already install rar & tried to unrar. it is asking passwd. i want to break it. So for that any tool
[11:05] <nag_> even i too... thats y we r here for getting help / help others
[11:05] <fidel> nag_: cant recommend one - but search for 'brute-force rar'
[11:06] <fidel> will be the time-consuming method
[11:06] <fidel> especially if do you dont know some core-facts about the pw's length etc
[11:07] <XiRoN> geirha: So correct me if I'm wrong I just put "sudo -i root" at the start of the script I want to give root privileges.
[11:07] <AdvoWork> I need to install a specific version of postgresql, any ideas please? sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.4.7 but it doesn't find it. Any idea please?
[11:07] <geirha> XiRoN: wrong. You run the script with   sudo scriptname   or   sudo /path/to/scriptname  if it's not in PATH
[11:07] <fidel> AdvoWork: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME will show you the available versions via your sources
[11:08] <bekks> AdvoWork: Check packages.ubuntu.com wether that version ins available at all.
[11:08] <AdvoWork> fidel, that lists 9.1 but thats too current for what I need
[11:09] <XiRoN> Just "sudo scriptname.sh" and that will work?
[11:09] <bekks> AdvoWork: Then you have to manually install the version you want. It isnt in the official repos.
[11:09] <nag_> fidel: brute-force rar means any package like that
[11:10] <geirha> XiRoN: If scriptname.sh is in a directory in that process' PATH variable, yes. On a side note, you should put extensions on script files.
[11:10] <geirha> XiRoN: sorry, you *shouldn't* put extensions on script files.
[11:11] <XiRoN> geirha: Okay thanks :)
[11:12] <nag_> auronandace: what is this !rar
[11:12] <fidel> nag_: what?
[11:12] <chu> geirha: Why shouldn't you put extensions on script files?
[11:12] <fidel> nag_: 'brute force rar' are your keywords for a search ;)
[11:12] <nag_> fidel: u said some thing like brute-froce rar right
[11:12] <SpacePoet> what does rm -rf /* do?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> !danger
[11:12] <fidel> SpacePoet: do you know the man page function?
[11:12] <SpacePoet> how does that make my computer faster?
[11:13] <Monotoko> deletes everything
[11:13] <Monotoko> on your hard drive
[11:13] <geirha> chu: Scripts define new commands to run, and commands normally doesn't have extensions. E.g. the ls command is called ls, not ls.elf. You'll also get dependancy headaches if you rewrite it in another language.
[11:13] <Monotoko> and any USB drives plugged in
[11:13] <fidel> SpacePoet: its an easy method to show a local description for single commands - basically in your terminal: man COMMAND-you-dont-know
[11:13] <Kaco> it won'd do anything without sudo or su
[11:13] <auronandace> nag_: it calls the bot
[11:14] <fidel> SpacePoet: the cmd itself will delete - so it wont speed up your box - but remove your data ;)
[11:14] <auronandace> !bot | nag_
[11:14] <Monotoko> Kaco, it'll still wipe his home
[11:14] <Kaco> Monotoko, i'm not sure how rm -r works, but since /home is not removable, it would stop there?
[11:15] <Kaco> Monotoko, or it will continue recursively and find his home folder and delete it first?
[11:15] <SwedeMike> Kaco: it's recursively delete every file on anything mounted.
[11:15] <SwedeMike> file and directory
[11:15] <Monotoko> Kaco, the -f forces the deletion of anything... your /home/username folder would no longer exist
[11:15] <Monotoko> and -r is recurrsive
[11:15] <gudjon> is there any tool i can use to test my interface?
[11:16] <falstaf> I am having real problems with my broadcom 4306 wireless card ... cant seem to get it installed.
[11:16] <geirha> Kaco: It'll recurse through and delete all files in directories it has write access in
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> gudjon  for what interface to do what?
[11:16] <gudjon> i have two interfaces i want some virtal device to connect to one of it and test if dhcp is working
[11:16] <Monotoko> pretty sure he was a troll anyway
[11:17] <Kaco> geirha, ok, i wasn't sure about that... good to know
[11:21] <zzz> edsaf
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> FYI: ubuntu one is down
[11:23] <jpds> MonkeyDust: Howso?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> jpds  noticed it during sync
[11:23] <jpds> MonkeyDust: Works for me.
[11:24] <jpds> MonkeyDust: Please go to #ubuntuone to talk to them.
[11:24] <arian_> dasf
[11:24] <arian_> dasf
[11:24] <arian_> hello all
[11:24] <FloodBot1> arian_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <arian_> can you answer me
[11:25] <XiRoN> geirha: When I do "sudo scriptname.sh" it says: "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"
[11:25] <nag_> hi guys plz help me out. i am trying to install rarcrack-0.2.tar.bz2. I untar it and use "make" commad. I am getting compilation error.
[11:25] <geirha> XiRoN: Then you haven't given that user permission to run that script, or the script is not in PATH
[11:25] <Kaco> nag_: did you run ./configure first?
[11:25] <Guest30526> how i can full unistall kde and gnome shell from my ubuntu I tried to unistall kde but I have yet that
[11:26] <Guest30526> can any  boddy answer me???
[11:26] <nag_> kaco: i didnt find configure file in that directory
[11:26] <auronandace> Guest30526: what desktop do you want?
[11:26] <sham-hack> does any one know how to install mechanize python module
[11:26] <sham-hack> please i need help
[11:26] <Guest30526> only unity
[11:26] <Kaco> nag_: then read the docs for that program, especially how to compile it :)
[11:26] <XiRoN> geirha: How can I put that script in PATH? (sorry for the persistent asking of questions)
[11:27] <sham-hack> does any one know how to install mechanize python module
[11:27] <nag_> Kaco: Can you plz look this "http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-recover-rar-7z-and-zip-password-with-rarcrack-in-linux/"
[11:27] <Kaco> nag_: i quickly googled and found out you need also libxml2-dev package
[11:27] <nag_> Kaco: i followed exactly what he said
[11:27] <Kaco> nag_, http://developercoach.com/2011/using-rarcrack-on-ubuntu/
[11:27] <arian__> help
[11:27] <sham-hack> does any one know how to install mechanize python module
[11:27] <arian__> help
[11:28] <geirha> XiRoN: Difficult to say without more context. You're running it from php? then check how to alter environment variables in php. The easy way out is to provide the absolute path to the script in this case though.
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> sham-hack  type !patience
[11:28] <arian__> I am Guest30526
[11:28] <sham-hack> ok...
[11:28] <sham-hack> MonkeyDust
[11:28] <auronandace> !puregnome | arian__
[11:28] <geirha> XiRoN: sudo /path/to/script
 : can i have my softwares i installed on unity?
[11:29] <sham-hack> PLease help me to how to install mechanize python module
[11:29] <auronandace> arian__: kde packages will work on unity yes
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !patience | sham-hack
[11:30] <XiRoN> geirha: I'm already doing that, this is my actual script: echo shell_exec("sudo /home/XiRoN/Scripts/createServer.sh Dog Dog 256 25567 2>&1");          the bash script has 4 parameteres
[11:30] <nag_> Kaco: superb its working :D
[11:30] <sham-hack> ok. MonkeyDust
[11:30] <gudjon> can i telnet to router only knowing its macaddress ?
[11:30] <geirha> XiRoN: And what does the sudoers line look like?
[11:31] <Kartagis> I did something to cairo-dock (I don't remember what) and now I can't see a program's additional windows. any ideas how to revert that?
[11:31] <Kartagis> gudjon: no
[11:31] <geirha> XiRoN: Oh and does the user have access to that directory in your homedir?
 ko
[11:31] <arian__> excuse me, I do not wnat to unistall kde gnome shell and unity and re install unity can i do only remove completly kde and gnome shell?
[11:31] <XiRoN> geirha: I chowned the files to www-data
[11:32] <XiRoN> Ahh the sudoers, where is that file located?
[11:32] <Guest89045> fd
[11:32] <arian__> ??
[11:32] <Guest89045> hehe
[11:32] <auronandace> arian__: completely? i doubt it, it would be quicker to just reinstall ubuntu
[11:32] <Guest89045> jfs f
[11:33] <Guest89045> dmldsdmk
[11:33] <Guest89045> why
[11:34] <auronandace> !pm | arian__
[11:35] <arian__> on this : sudo apt-get remove akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok amarok-common amarok-utils apport-kde apturl-kde ark bluedevil cdparanoia cdrdao docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer freespacenotifier gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpgsm gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen gwenview ibus-qt4 icoutils jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad
[11:35] <arian__>  kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf kdebase-runtime kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools
[11:35] <arian__> kfind khelpcenter4 kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmix kmousetool knotes konsole kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpat kppp ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktimetracker ktorrent ktorrent-data kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-netbook-default-settings kubuntu-notification-helper kubuntu-web-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager language-selector-kde libakonadi-
[11:35] <arian__> calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libassuan0 libattica0 libbluedevil1 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libcalendarsupport4 libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libdebconf-kde0 libdiscid0 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libencode-locale-perl libepub0 libeventviews4 libfile-listing-perl libflac++6 libfont-afm-perl libgadu3 libgpgme++2 libgps19 libgrantlee-core0 libhtml-form-perl libhtml
[11:35] <arian__> -format-perl libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libhttp-date-perl libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libibus-qt1 libilmbase6 libincidenceeditorsng4 libindicate-qt1 libio-socket-ssl-perl libiodbc2 libk3b6 libkabc4 libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdegames5a
[11:35] <FloodBot1> arian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <auronandace> !pastebin | arian__
[11:36] <arian__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086037/ how many do i need to download on this?
[11:37] <compdoc> arian__, not sure what that program is, but you might want to use the --purge option
[11:37] <arian__> can you get me the code I most to paste in terminal?
[11:39] <compdoc> sudo apt-get remove --purge akonadi-backend-mysql blah blah
[11:40] <minas> when I run "glxinfo" I get, among others, this message: OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2      Does it mean that the driver uses opengl 2.1? (I'm using the open-source one)
[11:40] <sham-hack> what is the meaning of this when i try to attempt update in terminal
[11:40] <sham-hack> A asdf/asdfasf
[11:40] <sham-hack> D stt/dsf
[11:41] <geirha> sham-hack: What do you mean by "attempt update"?
[11:42] <compdoc> sham-hack, could you pastebin the command and the result?
[11:42] <sham-hack> ok... i will give you..
[11:42] <arian__> what can i do??????????????????????????????????
[11:48] <e11bits> I have this linux device driver for Realtek Ethernet controllers that I placed in /usr/src and added to dkms. If I use dkms manually the module gets built and installed and everything is fine. But if I download a new kernel image installation hangs when dkms kicks in. Where can I see what's happening? I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with my dkms.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086041
[11:49] <dfa> hi
[11:50] <arian__> یکی می تونه جواب منو بده؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
[11:50] <arian__> ها؟
[11:50] <arian__> ها؟
[11:50] <FloodBot1> arian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <sham-hack> compdoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086047/
[11:50] <sham-hack> please explain me?
[11:51] <arian__> ?
[11:51] <arian__> ?
[11:51] <arian__> ?
[11:51] <FloodBot1> arian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <dfa> i my webcam is not working on my ubuntu lucid lynx, it's doesn't work neither in cheese or skype. I've tied gstream-properties and it's not detected. I check le gspca module is load, anyone can help?
[11:51] <geirha> sham-hack: That looks like output from some version control system. Hard to answer without knowing which one.
[11:53] <compdoc> sham-hack, could you pastebin the command and the result?
[11:53] <compdoc> there is no command
[11:53] <compdoc> dont know what youre doing
[11:54] <sham-hack> geirha:.. ok but when i try update msf then it show me like this .. i think A means to add that on folder
[11:54] <sham-hack> i am right
[11:55] <tga> hello, anyone here who uses cherokee?
[11:55]  * tga can't get cherokee to serve php from a virtual dir
[11:55] <k1l> sham-hack: man, why dont you just tell exactly which command you are typing in? we cant know what you are doing there
[11:55] <arian__> hello guys how do i know how many desktop s do i have (gnome shell ,unity ,kde) via    terminal
[11:56] <sham-hack> no..  i am updating my MSF
[11:56] <sham-hack> then while it update it show me like that command
[11:56] <geirha> sham-hack: ... and what is MSF?
[11:57] <prafulla> Any one Can about Android development
[11:57] <raidghost> For some reason the ubuntu installer doesnt see my sda1 harddrive, and it makes me confused.
[11:57] <prafulla> help
[11:57] <SKullB0x> hi, i added a new ppa repo to install a new software but i can't use it, it says 'disabled on upgrade to precise' .. please help
[11:57] <sham-hack> MSF is a metasploit tool in PENTEST
[11:58] <SKullB0x> i have ubuntu 12.04
[11:58] <geirha> prafulla: I'm sure the guys and gals in #android-dev do
[11:58] <raidghost> Got 1 80GB as sda and one 250GB as sdb1. with both connected, Sdb1 is the only one viewable. When disconnecting the sdb harddrive and re trying the installer. sda shows with no space to install things
[11:58] <sham-hack> geirha : WHen you become hacker then you have knowledge about MSF.. it's a great tool...
[11:58] <geirha> sham-hack: Ok, never heard of that, so I have no idea what you're updating, and thus I cannot help you.
[11:58] <raidghost> fdisk and cfdisk does see my harddrives. so i wonder WHY doesnt it show up propperly in the installer.,
[11:59] <SKullB0x> guys what does 'disabled on upgrade to precise' mean. some ppa repos are disabled and i can't install softwares.. please help me thnxxx
[12:00] <prafulla> i have installed eclipse indigo and want to creat a project on Android Development what i do
[12:00] <sham-hack> geirha : OK.. but thank's for care about me! :D
[12:00] <syn-ack> prafulla, Perhaps read. This is not an Android development channel.
[12:00] <geirha> prafulla: I'd look for a tutorial on developing android applications using eclipse. #android-dev probably knows some.
[12:00] <syn-ack> sham-hack, Take your hacking tools elsewhere.
[12:01] <SKullB0x> what does 'disabled on upgrade to precise'  mean... some ppa repos are disable with this comment on my distro
[12:01] <SKullB0x> please help
[12:01] <prafulla> okk
[12:01] <sham-hack> syn-ack :>> ohhh.. i understand!
[12:01] <geirha> SKullB0x: All ppas are disabled when you upgrade. It's your job to re-enable them again.
[12:02] <geirha> SKullB0x: The reason they get disabled, is because the ppas might not have packages for the new release
[12:02] <SKullB0x> geirha: how i do that... i checked them in 'software sources' wizard but still i can't use em.!
[12:03] <SKullB0x> this was the case even before the upgrade ... and the software i want to use is usable on ubuntu 11.10 12.04
[12:04] <SKullB0x> okay one more question how do i uninstall software which i installed using a commerical ppa
[12:05] <geirha> SKullB0x: That should be it. If it doesn't work, perhaps the PPAs don't have packages for this Ubuntu release.
[12:05] <geirha> !ppapurge | SKullB0x
[12:06] <geirha> !ppa-purge | SKullB0x
[12:06] <raidghost> geirha: any ideah to the install problem?
[12:06] <rudivs> uh oh. how can I recover a corrupted etc/sudoers file?
[12:07] <geirha> raidghost: Not sure. Do you know what type of partition table the harddrive has?
[12:08] <geirha> rudivs: Unless you happen to have a root shell open, boot in recovery mode and undo your changes. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[12:09] <geirha> rudivs: Whenever I use visudo, I always keep a terminal open where I've run sudo -i, so I can fix it again if I mess up.
[12:09] <saitek> on Ubuntu 12 (not server) where is the configuration file for adding a virtual network adapter?
[12:10] <rudivs> thanks geirha... good advice
[12:10] <raidghost> geirha: it has ext4
[12:10] <greasegum> I can't seem to find a working fix for the ALSA+PulseAudio mute button bug. Anyone in here have luck fixing this problem?
[12:10] <syn-ack> saitek, Using Network Manager or no?
[12:10] <raidghost> was running debian on it until i figured out i wanted to try ubuntu *Where everything works
[12:11] <raidghost> Cause the weirt thingy is that both drives show up with cfdisk and fdisk -l
[12:11] <madmax2> 11.10, screen brightness. The key combination for brightness is fine, Fn+F1 and Fn+F2 are recognised. The notification windo shows the brightness. But it has no effect.
[12:11] <rudivs> will also change default editor... I think that's where it went wrong in the first place
[12:12] <madmax2> echo 150 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/panasonic/brightness is fine too.
[12:14] <geirha> raidghost: Yeah, that is odd. Must be some weird bug in the installer. All I can think of.
[12:14] <raidghost> cause the sdb1 does show up when both harddrives is connected
[12:14] <raidghost> and ive checked with fdisk and cfdisk
[12:14] <raidghost> and both drives are listed.
[12:15] <saitek> syn-ack, no
[12:15] <geirha> raidghost: No errors in dmesg either?
[12:19] <raidghost> geirha: everything is fine
[12:19] <raidghost> no error messages in dmesg
[12:21] <madmax2> 11.10, screen brightness. The key combination for brightness is fine, Fn+F1 and Fn+F2 are recognised. The notification windo shows the brightness. But it has no effect.
[12:21] <madmax2> echo 150 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/panasonic/brightness is fine too.
[12:24] <greasegum> in fact I'd like to just reset my audio configuration back to its orig state
[12:24] <greasegum> what do we think is the best way to do that?
[12:27] <freeroute> histo: I tried unetbootin but I was getting the same error, so then I reformatted it to FAT16 and it worked like a charm
[12:28] <freeroute> but it sucks because I was using a 16gb stick and now I have to use only 4gb of it -_-
[12:29] <geirha> freeroute: Can't you just format the rest of it with a different filesystem?
[12:29] <geirha> raidghost: Sorry, I'm out of ideas. It should just ... work(tm)
[12:30] <freeroute> geirha: I had a multiboot stick made with YUMI which gave me this error - http://i.imgur.com/kodVy.jpg
[12:31] <cmr> When running fc-cache -fv, I get "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/gohufont: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs", yet in that directory there is GohuFont-Bold.ttf and GohuFont-Medium.ttf. These fonts work fine on FreeBSD, what could prevent them from working? gnome-font-viewer even displays them fine.
[12:31] <geirha> freeroute: Hm. Odd.
[12:31] <freeroute> after research I tried several things (setting the USB disk priority to #1, renaming syslinux.cfg to isolinux.bin etc.), but the remedy that worked for most people seemed to just format the stick to FAT16
[12:32] <freeroute> but this only seems to happen to older mobo's
[12:32] <geirha> freeroute: So most likely a BIOS issue, then
[12:32] <Siobhan000> hello
[12:32] <freeroute> I guess so
[12:32] <Kruptein> hi
[12:32] <freeroute> sup!
[12:33] <Mahavir> Is anyone online? I want to know about tweaking Ubuntu Precise.
[12:33] <Kruptein> nope
[12:33] <Siobhan000> Problem here, Im on 12.04, a fresh install, I then installed gnome-panel and logout and back in using the "ubuntu classic desktop"
[12:33] <Kruptein> sorry
[12:33] <Kruptein> the 1650people in here are all bots
[12:34] <Siobhan000> I was hoping to get everything the way it was before unity, but a number of things are missing: the "system" menu at the top to configure everything and the abiltiy to right click the top menu to add widgets
[12:34] <Siobhan000> any idea? I have google extensively but I cannot find anything :( thank you
[12:34] <Mahavir> hello anyone can tell me about tweaking ubuntu12.04
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  gnome3 is different from gnome2 -- classic just looks a bit like gnome2, but it's gnome3
[12:35] <Kruptein> Mahavir: what exactly do you want to tweak
[12:35] <ozpy> Hey... is there a detector/solution for the new cross platform trojan that infects Linux? http://www.zdnet.com/cross-platform-trojan-checks-your-os-attacks-windows-mac-linux-7000000656/
[12:36] <Mahavir> what a mess up & atleast tell  me about this mess up
[12:36] <Kruptein> ozpy you would first need to chmod and run it before it would affect in you in the first place
[12:36] <Mahavir> Ubuntu 12.04 outer core
[12:36] <Siobhan000> MonkeyDust: thank you, Im just trying to make things look like before, my main desktop computer is stuck on 10.10 because Im afraid to upgrade.
[12:36] <Kruptein> Mahavir what is messed up O_o
[12:37] <ozpy> kruptein: I see. so it's not that easy for it to infect the ubuntu OS installed on my laptos
[12:37] <greasegum> Siobhan000:: dude, you're living in the past.
[12:37] <Siobhan000> I have tried setting a laptop in 12.04 and make it look like before but I just cant
[12:37] <Mahavir> ubuntu login & startup
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  10.10 is dead and you want something that no longer exists or cannot be used in ubuntu
[12:38] <Siobhan000> greasegum: I know, Im trying to update but if it means using the new layout then it's not worth it. (btw Im not a dude, siobhan is an irish name)
[12:38] <Kruptein> ozpy it depends how reckless you are in executing things :p
[12:38] <kurtwp_> Siobhan000: I was used to gnome also but I just jump in and did a fresh install of 12.04 and using unity 2d
[12:38] <Mahavir> qui
[12:38] <kurtwp_> Siobhan000: to it is fine and don't really care about all the different customization you can do to desktops
[12:39] <Siobhan000> hummmm
[12:40] <greasegum> Siobhan000:: I realized that a moment after I hit enter. Damn my gender-stereotyping right pinkie.
[12:40] <greasegum> :)
[12:40] <kurtwp_> Siobhan000: Just one suggestion - do a fresh install of 12.04 - I upgraded from 11.10 and it hosed up my whole system
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  first backup, before you fresh install
[12:41] <Kruptein> I always do fresh installs
[12:41] <Siobhan000> yes thats what I have done, this is 12.04 from fresh on a laptop, just trying to learn how this can be configured to look like before
[12:41] <Kruptein> I mess to much with the system my own to make upgrades work like they should :3
[12:41] <Siobhan000> I dont want to touch my working desktop until I learn how this can be done
[12:41] <nl0st> hello, I need some help with my laptop's audio drivers. The sound quality is bad. I have alsaudio drivers installed. If someone can help me, pm me please.
[12:42] <Siobhan000> I am asuming it *can* be done somehow, I just cannot find anythign on google... Im surprised really
[12:42] <cmr> Siobhan000, it can't, without lots of work.
[12:43] <Siobhan000> cmr: you are breaking my heart, seriously
[12:43] <cmr> Siobhan000, sorry, truth hurts.
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  by the time you managed to make gnome3 look like gnome2, it will be quantal-time ;)
[12:43] <Siobhan000> I thought I would wait a few mounth for guides and pages to show up on blogs with detailed instructions, but nothing has come up
[12:44] <cmr> That's the hint that it's either impossible or hard.
[12:44] <Kruptein> came late to the party,  but Siobhan000 wants gnome2 on ubuntu precise or what ?
[12:45] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: I want the same look as 10.10 on the new 12.04, the new looks it's called unity, I dont know how the old looks is called, maybe it is is gnome2 Im not sure
[12:45] <zoomit> Hello guys i can not acces to vpn on ubuntu
[12:46] <zoomit> why?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  type !classic
[12:46] <Siobhan000> !classic
[12:46] <zoomit> can you help?
[12:46] <Kruptein> MonkeyDust you can send a message to a specific user by adding | username after the command
[12:46] <zoomit> hey any body
[12:46] <zoomit> can you help
[12:46] <zoomit> ?
[12:46] <zoomit> ?
[12:46] <FloodBot1> zoomit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <Pici> !ask | zoomit
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Kruptein  I know that, but I don't do that
[12:47] <gemini123> i am absolute begginer today i created mkdir aaa && cd aaa && touch aa.txt bb.txt
[12:47] <gemini123> command to make folder and files at once :D
[12:47] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: ow 10.10 also used unity but an older version
[12:47] <Siobhan000> Yes, I have loged using the "classic" interface, but a number of things are missing, the "system" menu at the top where you used to admin/configure everything on the system is no longer there. Also, rigth clicking the top menu doesnt do anything.
[12:47] <vcxzvzcx> vpn error.
[12:47] <vcxzvzcx> what can i do
[12:47] <gemini123> what else i can try
[12:47] <Kruptein> MonkeyDust: ok fine :p
[12:47] <vcxzvzcx> when i want to add the v*p *n it says it can not add that
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Siobhan000  System is now under Applications (I use classic myself)
[12:48] <vcxzvzcx> what can i do?
[12:48] <catphish> Siobhan000: i've found the classic interface very buggy
[12:48] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: why do you want that version of unity specific?
[12:48] <catphish> Siobhan000: i had better results using the mate / cinnamon forks from mint for the classic feel
[12:48] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: I just want it to look as close as 10.10 as possible as that is what I have been using for a long time and Im used to it
[12:48] <vcxzvzcx> can u asnwer me
[12:48] <vcxzvzcx> ??
[12:49] <vcxzvzcx> ??
[12:49] <FloodBot1> vcxzvzcx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[12:49] <vcxzvzcx> please answer me
[12:49] <vcxzvzcx> #ubuntu-ir
[12:49] <DJones> !patience | vcxzvzcx
[12:49] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: i'm fine with that it can happen :) but i'm afraid that that is not gonna be easy
[12:49] <Siobhan000> but it keeps sayign that it is no longer supported and I get no updates, I figure thats bad and I should try to upgrade the whole system, but the new look and menus throw me away
[12:50] <catphish> Siobhan000: you may want to consider mint with mate or cinnamon, i was sad to move away from ubuntu mainline but i find it much better provides the interface i'm familiar with
[12:50] <nl0st> gemini123: try "ls -lR /
[12:50] <nl0st> gemini123: try "ls -lR /"
[12:51] <Siobhan000> I keep hearing about this Mint, never tried before.
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> catphish  Siobhan000 you *could* get familiar with the new interface
[12:51] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: it's pretty popular
[12:51] <madmax2> Siobhan: There's a Gnome Session Manager, Gnome fallback that you can install post installation.
[12:52] <catphish> personally i don't like the new interfaces
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> help
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> help
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> help
[12:52] <FloodBot1> vcxzvzcx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <Siobhan000> sorry I like old looks, in my work computer I have windows xp set to look like the old 98 with grey bars and no bells and whisels
[12:52] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: here are some screenshots http://www.linuxmint.com/screenshots.php
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> what is the best ide for python
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> ha ha
[12:52] <vcxzvzcx> you can not
[12:53] <catphish> vcxzvzcx: flooding won't help you get support here, ask a clear question and hope someone can help
[12:53] <Kruptein> vcxzvzcx: please stop flooding
[12:53] <nl0st> dunno, i just use kate for editing and run the python scripts through terminal
[12:53] <vcxzvzcx> ok
[12:53] <Kruptein> vcxzvzcx: and check #python
[12:53] <Kruptein> vcxzvzcx: that question has been asked like 15mins ago though
[12:53] <catphish> gedit is good for most languages
[12:53] <catphish> not really an IDE though
[12:54] <Kruptein> vcxzvzcx: someone said pycharm then,  I would say my own
[12:54] <nl0st> yeah, but gedit is a bit too colorful for me
[12:54] <catphish> gedit has a lot of colour themes :)
[12:54] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: looks pretty, but again very different from the Ubuntu classic
[12:54] <vcxzvzcx> can i install  ubuntu packages on linux mint?
[12:54] <madmax2> Siobhan000: You can install the 'Gnome Session Manager - Gnome fallback'.
[12:54] <catphish> vcxzvzcx: yes
[12:55] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: yup software changes so one day you might have to change as well :/
[12:55] <madmax2> 11.10, screen brightness. The key combination for brightness is fine, Fn+F1 and Fn+F2 are recognised. The notification windo shows the brightness. But it has no effect.
[12:55] <catphish> Kruptein: software doesn't need to change for the sake of it, hence the forks to keep the look and feel people like
[12:55] <ramez> Hi guys
[12:55] <madmax2> echo 150 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/panasonic/brightness works fine too.
[12:55] <siva4080> One week back I had setup proxy.. Now when I try to install package with apt-get install , It is trying to fetch the package from the proxy.. How to remove the proxy settings from apt-get ??? Please help
[12:55] <Kruptein> madmax2: you'll probably need some drivers / software package from your laptop manufacturer
[12:56] <Siobhan000> madmax2: searchign for "gnome session manager" in the ubuntu software center doesnt fidn anything
[12:56] <vcxzvzcx> #linuxmint
[12:56] <ramez> I have dell vostro A860 and i can't install ubuntu 12.04
[12:56] <Kruptein> madmax2: I had to install some samsung specific packages in order to be able to use those keys
[12:56] <Kruptein> ramez: with "I can't" do you mean the installation failed or something else?
[12:56] <ramez> when i boot from the cd ,, black screen freeze
[12:56] <madmax2> Kruptein: Thanks, I will have a look into it.
[12:57] <ramez> yes kruptein
[12:57] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: whats the worst that can happen if I dont move from 10.10 ?
[12:57] <madmax2> Kruptein: That said, my drivers are the correct ones but the key bindings are a goof up.
[12:57] <ramez> i can't boot from the CD after i downloaded the 32 and 86
[12:58] <madmax2> Siobhan000: Could you check ot this one... http://deviceguru.com/ubuntu-11-10-without-shell-shock/  ? Will it suit you?
[12:58] <Siobhan000> madmax2: I cannot find "gnome session manager" in the ubuntu software center, could you tell me how to install that please?
[12:58] <Siobhan000> madmax2: let me see....
[12:58] <madmax2> Siobhan000: OK.
[12:59] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: you're not gonna be hurt so much the only thing that might happen is that support for problems can be a pain  and maybe some programs won't work
[12:59] <ramez> any one to help me??
[12:59] <ramez> im working on linux mint
[12:59] <ramez> and its running fine
[12:59] <Kruptein> ramez sorry, are your boot options correct?
[12:59] <ramez> yes sure ,
[12:59] <Kruptein> with that I mean: does it first check whether there is a bootable cd
[12:59] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
[13:00] <ramez> yes it check and start the process of booting
[13:00] <ramez> but the screen keep black
[13:00] <madmax2> ramez: You probably have a non-pae system?
[13:00] <ramez> and nothing after that
[13:00] <KaiSforza> ramez: how long are you waiting?
[13:00] <ramez> u mean online??
[13:00] <KaiSforza> no, i mean for the live cd to boot.
[13:01] <Siobhan000> madmax2: thank you very much, thats a long read Im got to get to it
[13:01] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: I see
[13:01] <ramez> i've been waiting for 4 min and nothing happened
[13:01] <ramez> i tried 64X and 32
[13:01] <KaiSforza> ramez: how old is this computer?
[13:01] <madmax2> Mind that it refers to 11.10, current is 12.04.
[13:01] <ramez> mm its dual core processor 2 GB Ram
[13:01] <Kruptein> Siobhan000: you should be fine for a long time but maybe in the future you'll have to change once if you want something specific but for now  I wouldn't upgrade if you don't find something that really suits you
[13:01] <madmax2> Siobhan000: Mind that it refers to 11.10, current is 12.04.
[13:02] <jinxard> Can I install Windows besides my already existing Ubuntu installation?
[13:02] <Siobhan000> Thank you everyone, Im off to try Mint / do more research about how I can sort this, it seems more complicated than I thought. **THANK YOU ALL**
[13:02] <KaiSforza> ramez: give it a few more minutes. (and hit an arrow key and tell me if you see anything)
[13:02] <Siobhan000> Kruptein: noted, thanks for the advice
[13:02] <Kruptein> np
[13:02] <ramez> ok
[13:02] <Siobhan000> madmax2: yes I noticed
[13:02] <Siobhan000> thank all, bye now
[13:02] <fresh-nes> Can somebody help me to defer initcalls of the boot, as explained here : http://elinux.org/Deferred_Initcalls . But for the kernel 3.3 please
[13:03] <madmax2> ramez: you probably have a non-pae system, download the non-pae iso
[13:03] <ramez> what is the meaning of non-pae madmax2??
[13:03] <jinxard> Can I install Windows besides my already existing Ubuntu installation, or do I have to install Windows first then Ubuntu?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> jinxard  first ubuntu, or you will have to repair grub
[13:04] <Kruptein> fresh-nes: if nobody answers you hear try #ubuntu-kernel
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> jinxard  first windows, or you will have to repair grub
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> (oops)
[13:04] <jinxard> MonkeyDust, ok :) so first windows then Ubuntu?
[13:04] <madmax2> The standard download location for 12.04. Your PC/Laptop has probably no PAE support. Loading the PAE support will fail and vice versa.
[13:04] <Kruptein> I think you can install whatever you want first but if you install windows after ubuntu you'll have to need a live cd to reset the grub
[13:05] <Kruptein> so easier is to first do windows jinxard
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> jinxard  first windows, most probably on /dev/sda1
[13:05] <Kruptein> oh sorry misread you, MonkeyDust was tottaly right :p
[13:05] <jinxard> Ok, thanks guys :D
[13:05] <Kruptein> totally*
[13:05] <madmax2> ramez: The standard download location for 12.04. Your PC/Laptop has probably no PAE support. It is used to address memory beyond the 32-bit barrier.
[13:06] <LaOdeAliFarisi> sinyal ubuntu indonesia?
[13:06] <Kruptein> but wouldn't the 32bit work in that case
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> !id
[13:06] <madmax2> ramez: how old is your system?
[13:06] <Kruptein> or is 32bit now PAE default
[13:06] <ramez> madmax2 ,, i'm talking to you now from that laptop with linux mint installed
[13:06] <ramez> 64x
[13:07] <fresh-nes> Kruptein : thanks, I'll try
[13:07] <madmax2> OK, so you have a 64-bit system then?
[13:07] <gemini123> nl0st what wassssssss thatttttttttttttttttttttttt
[13:07] <ramez> yes i have
[13:07] <madmax2> OK, then you can rule out the PAE issue.
[13:08] <Kruptein> ramez did you try to see if it boots on another pc/laptop ?
[13:08] <Kruptein> maybe the cd is not good
[13:08] <DarsVaeda> is there any gui tool for recovering deleted files in a folder?
[13:08] <ramez> yes it was running on lenovo desktop
[13:08] <Kruptein> ok
[13:08] <ramez> i was working fine with ubuntu since ubuntu 9
[13:09] <ramez> and till 11.04
[13:09] <ramez> and when i tried to install 12.04
[13:09] <ramez> it was blocked
[13:09] <ramez> the boot stops at black screen
[13:09] <ramez> and nothing happen
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> ramez  type !nomodeset for instructions
[13:11] <Kruptein> ramez check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[13:12] <Kruptein> and ramez did you try a flash drive?
[13:12] <ramez> no i didn't try flash drive
[13:13] <ramez> i will download the iso again
[13:13] <ramez> and i will change the desktop and burning software
[13:13] <ramez> to be sure that nothing wrong
[13:13] <KaiSforza> ramez: when you download it, check the md5sum
[13:13] <ramez> is it a file md5sum?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| ramez
[13:14] <escott> DarsVaeda, almost certainly not. see !undelete
[13:14] <KaiSforza> ramez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[13:14] <ramez> thanks alot guys i will check all ur suggestions and i will return back to tell u
[13:15] <Kruptein> let's hope some option works :)
[13:15] <ramez> thanks alot for help kaisforza and madmax2 and monkeydust and ubottu
[13:16] <madmax2> ramez: Good luck with the new CD.
[13:16] <KaiSforza> (and this is why i prefer rolling releases.)
[13:17] <brett__> anyone able to tell me why my VPN connection to work is 100% fine at home, but i'm at a conference somewhere now and i VPN, it connects OK, i get some semi-applicable looking routes, but i can't connect to my resources? then my VPN drops 5 minutes later?
[13:18] <Kruptein> KaiSforza: same
[13:18] <Guest33424> !list
[13:23] <arian------> hello all can i install softwares by ubuntu ppa s on linux mint?
[13:24] <somethinginteres> any equivilant of WinRAR's "keep broken files" in fileroller? or a way to repair a "CRC check failed"?
[13:25] <arian------> ???
[13:25] <arian------> can you answer
[13:26] <arian------> me
[13:26] <arian------> >
[13:26] <FloodBot1> arian------: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <Kruptein> arian first of don't spam
[13:26] <Kruptein> arian why don't you just try
[13:26] <Kruptein> arian I think it should work
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> somethinginteres  start from the beginning, what doe you want to do, what have you done and tried before you came here
[13:26] <KaiSforza> arian------: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<the/ppa/you/want> && sudo apt-get update
[13:26] <arian------> because i want to know is it good to install linux mint or no :D
[13:26] <DJones> arian------: You're better asking in the linux mint irc channel, they'll have a better idea whether it will work or whether it will corrupt your system
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !mint|arian------,
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> arian------  try and find out, it's free :p
[13:27] <fidel> arian------: why would you ask in an ubuntu channel if using mint is a good ideA?
[13:27] <fidel> do you ask a mercedes benz dealer if its clever to buy BMW?
[13:27] <arian------> aha thanks I didn't know the linux mint irc?
[13:27] <KaiSforza> arian------: also: use google. it's your friend.
[13:27] <fidel> arian------: hehe np - found the channel?
[13:27] <Kruptein> arian------: google gave it immediately
[13:28] <syn-ack> Kruptein, Google isn't fast enough for some people.
[13:28] <somethinginteres> MonkeyDust: I am wanting to extract a split .rar file. I am getting a "CRC check failed error" when trying to extract in Ubuntu's default archive manager. Before coming here I google'd for a solution and the only suggestions is to re-download the "broken" part of the file
[13:28] <syn-ack> somethinginteres, install unrar and rar
[13:28] <arian------> Google is the badest company it deleted the persian gulf I hate you google.
[13:29] <compdoc> I had no idea the persian gulf was missing
[13:29] <KaiSforza> nor did I.
[13:29] <Kruptein> nor did i
[13:29]  * Kruptein is confused
[13:29] <somethinginteres> MonkeyDust: but Archive Manager says the CRC check failed on part 1 of 3 and 2 of 3. Looks like the download completed correctly but the file sizes don't seem right. Seem bigger than it should be e.g. 209MB for a 200MB .rar
[13:29] <KaiSforza> it's definitely still there...
[13:30] <somethinginteres> syn-ack: unrar was installed, rar wasn't. It's installed now
[13:30] <Guest20213> I want to start hosting video tutorials for my coworkers to be able to access. Is there a simple video server (open source/free) that would allow me to setup a local youtube style site on my private lan
[13:31] <tarzeau> does ubuntu 1204 work for anyone with more than one screen?
[13:31] <ikonia> Guest20213: drupal has video site plugins
[13:31] <tarzeau> with the nvidia driver? i either get mirrored displays or logins don't work at all
[13:31] <ikonia> Guest20213: I'd look at web content setups with video plugins
[13:31] <tarzeau> using gnome, gnome classic, unity, unity 2d etc...
[13:31] <Kruptein> tarzeau: i'm using it with a second monitor
[13:31] <tarzeau> amiwm or window maker work though
[13:32] <tarzeau> Kruptein: and it works for you? using gdm or lightdm?
[13:32] <tarzeau> Kruptein: is that amd64 or 32-bit linux?
[13:32] <KaiSforza> the nvidia drivers suppor xrandr, yes?
[13:32] <Kruptein> tarzeau: lightdm 64bit  nvidia graphics driver
[13:32] <tarzeau> we have like 150 workstations and they're still on 1104 because of this and some other problems with 1204lts
[13:33] <Kruptein> tarzeau: you need to set it up trough the nvidia config thingy though
[13:33] <tarzeau> Kruptein: what did you do? i have 5 test installations with test users and it fails everywhere
[13:33] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: get gentoo, it might fix your problem haha
[13:33] <tarzeau> Kruptein: i did so of course!
[13:33] <Kruptein> tarzeau: and what did you do ? :)
[13:33] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: we had debian before and i just tried debian wheezy and that's even worse
[13:33] <KaiSforza> you do realize what you're saying...
[13:33] <Kruptein> :p
[13:34] <tarzeau> Kruptein: nothing, default automatic network installation, setup nvidia-settings and then logins fail
[13:34] <rudivs> I need to copy a file from a remote computer's /etc directory. Is there some way to scp with sudo permissions on the remote box?
[13:34] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: there's no way we're gonna use gentoo
[13:34] <lux164> Um hello :)
[13:34] <Kruptein> hi
[13:34] <tarzeau> Kruptein: i guess you don't have nfs home directories automounted?
[13:34] <Kruptein> tarzeau: what did you select for your second screen
[13:34] <KaiSforza> rudivs: use an account with root, or ssh to the box and scp to your box with sudo.
[13:34] <Kruptein> in the nvidia-settings
[13:34] <lux164> I'm trying to install an external device driver. via xorg.conf. What do?
[13:34] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: i know
[13:34] <lux164> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/aiptek.4.html
[13:35] <tarzeau> Kruptein: separate x screen
[13:35] <lux164> ubuntu 10.04
[13:35] <Kruptein> tarzeau: hmz strange it works for me :/
[13:35] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: funny thing is it works also with mate and e17
[13:35] <primefalcon> rudivs, you could do a reverse scp, first login into the remote machine using ssh, su to root, and then scp the file back to your machine
[13:35] <somethinginteres> syn-ack: sorry, had to restart
[13:35] <Kruptein> tarzeau: and it worked on 3 different monitors so far
[13:35] <tarzeau> Kruptein: could you post me your xorg.conf and maybe a screenshot?
[13:35] <bal> when i type some words using ibus inputmethod in libreoffice write it exits  how to fix this ?
[13:35] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: then get mate on there. (tbh, i've been heavily disappointed with Unity)
[13:36] <rudivs> primefalcon, KaiSforza thanks, looks like the remote option is a good way to go
[13:36] <Kruptein> tarzeau: I'm on windows atm
[13:36] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: using mate would lower the shock of a change as well.
[13:36] <tarzeau> i prefer not to package MORE software packages on my own in our own repository, we already have around 75 of those
[13:36] <tarzeau> oh people here never liked unity that much
[13:36] <KaiSforza> i'd be surprised if they did.
[13:36] <fidel> tarzeau: some do - others dont ...as always
[13:37] <fidel> change is never welcome by everyone
[13:37] <primefalcon> I love unity, just sayin
[13:37] <KaiSforza> coming from gnome2, it's a bit of a shock.
[13:37] <tarzeau> fidel: some lost the icon bar completely, and on more than one screen it's really heavily slow if working at all
[13:37] <fidel> apart from that -> ot ;)
[13:37] <tarzeau> fidel: there's like a thing of sympathy and then there's stuff that's obviously broken
[13:37] <bal> how to fix this ?
[13:37] <fidel> tarzeau: i dont know & dont care - as i dont use it
[13:37] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: move your entire office to i3wm.
[13:38] <tarzeau> primefalcon: you love unity? the 3d one or the 2d one?
[13:38] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: some people just don't want to switch away from gnome 2 or kde
[13:38] <lux164> Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid. Trying to install Aiptek 4000U. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/aiptek.4.html How do I add it to xorg.conf? :) Not in hurrying up, I just put it all up in one line.
[13:38] <Kruptein> I like unity as well
[13:38] <primefalcon> Targen, I've liked unity in all 3 releases tbh
[13:38] <tarzeau> personally i prefer window maker, and then amiwm
[13:38] <Kruptein> to say that I love it is probably an exageration
[13:38] <tarzeau> Kruptein: it's not like i hate it. i just dislike it's not working on more than one screen
[13:39] <tarzeau> and people keep asking me how to configure it
[13:39] <tarzeau> and nautilus is slow when you want to browse /usr/bin when it has 3000+ files in there
[13:39] <Kruptein> tarzeau: it's really strange I'll see if I can find something
[13:39] <tarzeau> unity just misses the "launch application" menu entry
[13:39] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: also, how hard is it to package more on a local repo?
[13:39] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: not so, but to keep it updated is
[13:40] <fidel> tarzeau: dualscreen works basically if you set it up correct - but yeah its way more messy then it was before
[13:40] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: and then there's 32+64bit and all the distros that you have during the migration
[13:40] <Kruptein> tarzeau: it's definitely strange because the nvidia settings do find the monitor
[13:40] <fidel> works here with gnome3
[13:40] <Kruptein> do you get any error when applying your changes
[13:40] <primefalcon> tarzeau, the thing is though. a lot of people think unity is Ubuntu... thats kinda 1 reason I hate the ifferent names such as Lubuntu, xubuntu, since it's all the same OS with just a diffrent desktop, and those can easily be switched and changed, I currently have 8 desktops installed right now
[13:40] <fidel> primefalcon: full ack
[13:40] <tarzeau> Kruptein: yes the nvidia settings xorg.conf is perfect it works with very basic window managers just not with the gnome/kde and unity stuff
[13:41] <bal> what i can do with this ?
[13:41] <tarzeau> primefalcon: we have installed them all, there's like 3000 users :)
[13:41] <fidel> bal: could you define "this"? ;)
[13:41] <Kruptein> tarzeau: is it a specific monitor or any monitor?
[13:41] <tarzeau> Kruptein: any monitor
[13:41] <somethinginteres> syn-ack: thanks mate, found the command: it's unrar -kb <filename> kb meaning "keep broken"
[13:42] <bal> fidel:  when it try to type some words in libreoffice wirter with ibus in my mother language it exits.  it is only for some words
[13:42] <bal> like home
[13:42] <KaiSforza> I just remember using unity not too long ago on two screens. Really wasn't that enjoyable.
[13:42] <cfhowlett> hey all: I'm behind the great firewall.  I can't get the vanilla skype 4.0 as the browser keeps redirecting to the backdoor enabled chinese version.  Would anyone be willing to put the .deb in a dropbox and share the link with me?
[13:42] <lux164> ubottu, could you tell me about xorg.conf ?
[13:42] <lux164> ubottu: what is xorg.conf?
[13:43] <KaiSforza> bal: I'm failing to see the problem...
[13:43] <lux164> !xorg.conf
[13:43] <Kruptein> cfhowlett: did you try the ppa?
[13:43] <saiteks> hi to all
[13:43] <bal> fidel:  my language is malayalam
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Kruptein, no - have you a link?
[13:43] <fidel> bal: i dont uderstand your problem. try to rephrase and focus on the entire channel not just me ;)
[13:43] <Kruptein> cfhowlett: wait a minute
[13:43] <lux164> Any guides to installing xorg.conf driver?
[13:43] <lux164> on 10.04?
[13:44] <bal> KaiSforza: fidel  ok
[13:44] <primefalcon> cfhowlett, I will just give me a sec
[13:44] <bal> i try this with libre office channel
[13:44] <primefalcon> cfhowlett, 32 or 64bit?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> primefalcon, 64 bit
[13:44] <KaiSforza> bal: it's not that we can't help, it's just that you are pharsing the question like a statement, and it honestly doesn't seem like anything is wrong...
[13:45] <bal> KaiSforza:  when i type home in ibus the applciation  libre office quits
[13:45] <primefalcon> cfhowlett, here you go http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1212637/dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb
[13:45] <bal> or crashes
[13:46] <cfhowlett> primefalcon, my thanks, kind sir.
[13:46] <Kruptein> cfhowlett: just remember that you first need to delete any older version of skype
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Kruptein, new re-install and no skype.
[13:46] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: another questions, why would you not just use the public repositories?
[13:47] <primefalcon> cfhowlett, your welcome and yea what Kruptein  sad, I have had issues with that.. specificially it asking for a pass and user each boot
[13:47] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: public repos of what?
[13:47] <Kruptein> primefalcon: I had a lot of issues with it as well :/
[13:48] <Kruptein> tarzeau: ubuntu maybe? :D
[13:48] <KaiSforza> for MATE...which i think has a ppa somewhere.
[13:48] <Kruptein> ow
[13:48] <tarzeau> Kruptein: they don't have the software we need?
[13:48]  * Kruptein failed hard
[13:48] <tarzeau> what do you think why we maintain our own repositories for like 75 software packages?
[13:48] <tarzeau> certainly not for fun
[13:48] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: why not use the public repos /and/ your own repos for the software you can't get?
[13:49] <tarzeau> and ubuntu 1204 throwed out a few packages they had in 1104
[13:49] <bal> KaiSforza: ok see you
[13:49] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: that's what we do? but that doesn't fix the unity/gnome/kde problems on multimonitor setups?
[13:49] <YFL> Hello People!! Ubuntu is awesome you know
[13:49] <bal> KaiSforza: thank you
[13:49] <tarzeau> and basically i would just wish ubuntu did securityupdates for 1104 for 5 more years
[13:50] <Kruptein> tarzeau: did you reboot after you changed the nivida-settings options ?
[13:50] <tarzeau> the last lts was a disaster this one is still one, i'll probably just try 1210
[13:50] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: use LXDE/XFCE? or in that case, get RHEL.
[13:50] <tarzeau> Kruptein: i tried everything
[13:50] <tarzeau> KaiSforza: look it's not ME having problems, since I use amiwm/windowmaker which just work, perfect. it's the 2999 other people that can't use anything else but unity, gnome and kde
[13:50] <primefalcon> tarzeau, I am not even sure thenext lts will be a 5 year deal or whether its just 12.04 specific
[13:51] <dyd> guys how can i install elegant gnome?
[13:51] <KaiSforza> tarzeau: dress up LXDE to look like gnome 2.
[13:51] <dyd> i have ubuntu 11.04
[13:51] <tarzeau> there's no such thing like gnome AND elegant, is there?
[13:51] <tarzeau> you mean elephant gnome, right?
[13:51] <dyd> tarzeau, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Gnome+Pack?content=127826
[13:52] <dyd> tarzeau, i tried in many ways but seems that it's no more available :(
[13:52] <dyd> tarzeau, can't even download the binaries
[13:52] <dyd> dead link
[13:53] <KaiSforza> welp.
[13:53] <zhuyingwu> make love
[13:53] <tarzeau> make: *** No rule to make target `love'.  Stop.
[13:54] <KaiSforza> lol
[13:55] <markdark> :)
[13:56] <gudjon> how can i forward my dns from the isp to my internal network (2 interfaces - 11.04)
[13:57] <YFL> Hey keno!!
[13:57] <YFL> Hey amber!
[13:58] <arian__> hello I want to download 1 GB for a distro what distro is the best for the places that internet not medium (IRAN) ?
[13:58] <Amber_> Hey there quinn
[13:59] <chimney> arian__: what do want to do exactly?
[13:59] <arian__> I want to know what is the best distro
[13:59] <fidel> arian__: there is no BEST distri
[13:59] <fidel> !polls
[13:59] <KaiSforza> arian__: that depends on what you want to do.
[13:59] <fidel> asking for best usualy fails and you should most likely even ignore replies on such questions ;)
[14:00] <chimney> arian__: depends on what you want to do
[14:00] <arian__> for IRAN is linuxmint better than ubuntu?
[14:00] <Kruptein> why would it matter
[14:00] <fidel> arian__: for iran isnt a reason
[14:00] <fidel> are you looking for privacy topics?
[14:00] <arian__> for the low internet
[14:00] <satyanash_> You mean slow?
[14:00] <k1l> !linuxmint | arian__
[14:01] <arian__> yes
[14:01] <KaiSforza> arian__: they're all going to deal with slow internet the same way.
[14:01] <fidel> arian__: there will be no relevant diff in terms how they access and use the net
[14:01] <Amber_> Hey Keno
[14:01] <Keno> Hola
[14:01] <YFL> Keno is having trouble with ubuntu
[14:01] <Amber_> LOL
[14:01] <YFL> I can see you Keno
[14:01] <Keno> No I'm not
[14:01] <arian__> can i install all ubuntu softwares on linux mint??
[14:02] <Keno> i CAN SEE YOU as well
[14:02] <ikonia> arian__: mixing repos with distro's isn't a good idea
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !mint arian__,
[14:02] <fidel> arian__: why would you even try that? where do you see a sense in that?
[14:02] <k1l> !mint | arian__
[14:02] <BluesKaj> arian__, just use ubuntu , mint isn't any faster , internet or otherwisew
[14:03] <chimney> ok my cpu tells me "pae cx8 cmov not found" want to install ubuntu server 12.04
[14:03] <arian__> what about craches which one is better?
[14:03] <KaiSforza> arian__: they're both quite stable. this is debian we're talking about here.
[14:03] <k1l> arian__: that would be a topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[14:04] <chimney> arian__: I usually use ubuntu. rel. stable
[14:04] <fidel> arian__: how about just trying both as live cd?
[14:04] <Brockstedt> hey Everyone, we have installed an Ubuntu 11.10 server which we are having an issue with it not allowing connections after idle for approximately 2 minutes. We have to log on to the box and ping a network address for other network host to be able to connect to it again.Has anyone a suggestion as to the cause of this? Thanks
[14:04] <fidel> there are almost no relevant diffs and dont expect neutral views in an ubuntu channel
[14:04] <gudjon> need help with DNS... my internal network dont work?
[14:05] <KaiSforza> fidel: if his internet sucks, he's not going to want to methinks.
[14:05] <fidel> KaiSforza: i am just trying to point out that he is asking questions we tried to answer in the same way hours ago
[14:05] <arian__> fidel, I said my internet is very slow .......... :)
[14:05] <chimney> arian__: depends on what are you doing with youre system. If you use it normally it will run forever, if you start playing around changing to many conf filer, it will explode someday
[14:06] <chimney> hey why does 12.04 server flavor wants cmov cx8 and pae?
[14:06] <Kruptein> pae because that is the standard now
[14:06] <compdoc> gudjon, what do you see if you run the command:   cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:07] <fidel> KaiSforza: true - but asking the same questions over and over and ignoring answers will not help either ;)
[14:07] <KaiSforza> fidel: true.
[14:07] <fidel> thats why i came up with a different way - testing itself
[14:07] <fidel> i dont even think it is clever to ask in room A if A is better then distri B
[14:07] <chimney> Kruptein: how do I get it running without pae cmov and cx8?
[14:07] <KaiSforza> arian__: If I were you, I would go with ubuntu. The base system is smaller than mint by quite a bit.
[14:07] <fidel> as ppl in room A usualy use A as the like it
[14:08] <chimney> fidel: I would say debian is better on small embedded devices, gentoo on very special devices. openwrt on linksys wlan routers, openbsd on firewalls ...
[14:08] <auronandace> fidel: while it is rare some people can be objective, but yes, you can expect heavy bias
[14:09] <fidel> chimney: might be true for you - not for others thats my point ;)
[14:09] <fidel> but those best questions will most likely never stop ;)
[14:09] <chimney> would you install ubuntu destop on an 200mhz arm, 20mb ram embedded thing?
[14:09] <tomek_> join #ubuntu-bugs
[14:09] <fidel> chimney: no - i do run debian on my one
[14:10] <chimney> fidel: seee ;)
[14:10] <fidel> for sure - but that makes only see if you can handle it ;)
[14:10] <fidel> *sense*
[14:10] <chimney> fidel: ;)
[14:10] <chimney> :P
[14:12] <chimney> so now any way to get ubuntu server running without pae cx8 and cmov?
[14:12] <fidel> arian__: to sum it up - if you choose distri a,b,or c - as long as they are all based on debian (which is true for mint,ubuntu etC) there are only small changes ...so in details
[14:12] <fidel> dont expect that one of those is doing a totaly other magic to get somewthing working
[14:13] <fidel> nor will one of those distris be heavily supperior - at least not as long as you are looking for something really specific
[14:13] <armaan> i have some code which starts a web server and then execute some tests on it. but i have to do in two terminals. Like first start server in one terminal and then execute tests on other terminal , Is it possible to achieve this in a single terminal.
[14:13] <fidel> armaan: you could either use 'screen' or the & option
[14:13] <chimney> yes with tmux or screen.
[14:14] <chimney> armaan: you can also start the wevserver as backgroud service
[14:14] <armaan> fidel: could not find suitable tutorial on screen
[14:14] <cfhowlett> arian__, not to be presume but have you looked at Ubuntu Muslim edition aka sabily: www.sabily.org
[14:14] <chimney> with ni outout
[14:14] <chimney> fidel: tmux not screen
[14:14] <fidel> armaan: i dont beliebe that ;)
[14:14] <Chuckb73> join #ubuntu - bugs
[14:15] <Chuckb73> join #ubuntu-bugs
[14:15] <fidel> Chuckb73: are you advertising or trying to do so?
[14:15] <DJones> Chuckb73: you need a "/" before so /join #ubuntu-bugs
[14:16] <KaiSforza> armaan: there are so many tutorials on screen it's a bit mind boggling.
[14:16] <chimney> armaan: use tmux. its way better
[14:17] <ra4king> Heyo!
[14:17] <chimney> !tmux | armaan
[14:17] <chimney> not working *sighÜ*
[14:17] <ra4king> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04 and outgoing connections seem to be blocked
[14:17] <ra4king> I have the Shorewall firewall installed, if that helps
[14:18] <ra4king> however, the only rules setup is to allow incoming HTTP and SSH connections
[14:18] <fidel> ra4king: does it work if you disable shorewell for a testing issues?
[14:18] <chimney> ra4king: deactivate it and see if it works
[14:18] <fidel> any other FW in use?
[14:18] <ra4king> does that still block all outgoing connections?
[14:18] <ra4king> fidel:  chimney: interestingly enough, disabling shorewall disables the internet entirely
[14:18] <compdoc> chimney, did you d/l the 64bit version?
[14:18] <fidel> ra4king: either show us your rules in details ..otherwise its wild guessing
[14:18] <chimney> compdoc: nope. x86
[14:18] <fidel> and consider checking if there runs something else in addition fw-wise
[14:19] <compdoc> thats way it wants PAE
[14:19] <armaan> fidel: thanks :)
[14:19] <chimney> compdoc: so its an via c3
[14:19] <compdoc> ahh
[14:19] <compdoc> how much ram?
[14:20] <Brockstedt> bbl
[14:20] <m477_> do you know what CondDBMySQL is?
[14:20] <chimney> compdoc: 256
[14:20] <chimney> compdoc: mb
[14:20] <compdoc> then I dont know why it would need pae - thats only for over 4G of ram
[14:21] <chimney> i'm helpless
[14:21] <compdoc> thats a really tiny amount. too small for most versions
[14:21] <fidel> m477_: conditions database mysql?
[14:21] <m477_> fidel: yes
[14:21] <chimney> also cmov and cx8 are missing, but debian runs on these machines properly
[14:22] <m477_> fidel: do you know what is it, I cant find anything specific in google
[14:22] <compdoc> chimney, Ubuntu might not be the best choice, then
[14:23] <compdoc> chimney, by the way, you might find better answers on the mailing list
[14:23] <ra4king> fidel: ah sorry, I was playing around with it
[14:23] <ra4king> fidel: give me two seconds to paste
[14:24] <chimney> compdoc: ok thanks
[14:24] <chimney> compdoc: on debian libssl-dev is properly working
[14:24] <ra4king> fidel: http://pastebin.com/wsGB0mc1
[14:24] <chimney> compdoc: thanks
[14:26] <KaiSforza> compdoc: that's really not that small. all of my systems run ~100-150mb when idle, and only web browsing and java really makes that go anywhere.
[14:26] <ra4king> fidel: is there anything wrong with the rules?
[14:27] <compdoc> KaiSforza, thats hom much ram those systems have?
[14:27] <ra4king> doing "sudo shorewall stop" somehow stops all connections to port 80. however the SSH connection still works, interestingly enough
[14:28] <KaiSforza> compdoc: no. I have 4. i just never use a whole lot more than 300.
[14:28] <madmax2> armaan: you can put the first process in backgrount and start your secend (test) process. To switch between use fg. This can all be done from the command line.
[14:29] <arian__> I installed the kde on ubuntu but it have some bugs  if i install kubuntu  from cd  i have these bugs again?
[14:29] <x1k> does anyone have an issue that has not been addressed or resolved yet?
[14:30] <x1k> arian__: what kind of bugs are you running into? the best practice would be to install kubuntu, but depending on the issue, it could be driver related and a new installation may not help you.
[14:30] <ra4king> can anyone help?
[14:31] <x1k> ra4king: what do you need?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> arian__, given you internet situation, make sure you hash check your iso
[14:31] <ra4king> x1k: outbound connections are blocked for some reason
[14:31] <ra4king> x1k: I installed shorewall with Ubuntu Server 12.04 and in the rules, I allowed incoming HTTP and SSH connections
[14:31] <Tm_T> x1k: arian__: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, so there's no need to reinstall
[14:32] <arian__> it has 2 bugs first  my super key does not work and by the terminal and help of the #kubuntu it solved but another was if i restart my monitor setting goes to default
[14:32] <arian__> and it has this bug now (I have 2 monitors )
[14:32] <ra4king> however, outbound connections don't seem to work because one of my PHP scripts tries to connect to a remote server and fails
[14:32] <Tm_T> arian__: ah, which KDE version you have installed?
[14:32] <x1k> Tm_T: i understand
[14:32] <DeltaHeavy> How do I redirect STDERR to /dev/null but pipe STDOUT of the same command?
[14:33] <arian__> Tm_T , KDE 4.8
[14:33] <lux12ss> Hello, will distribution upgrader take me from 10.04 to 12.04? If so, how can I stop it?
[14:33] <x1k> ra4king: let me do my homework on this quick
[14:33] <ra4king> x1k: ok thanks
[14:33] <DeltaHeavy> Sorry wrong channel, although if anybody could awnser that would be great lol
[14:33] <lux12ss> please?
[14:34] <x1k> ra4king: do you have a firewall?
[14:34] <ra4king> x1k: shorewall
[14:34] <Tm_T> arian__: could you be more specific? you can see that from any kde app by going to menu -> help -> about
[14:34] <DeltaHeavy> lux12ss: It will take you to the next version. It won't jump from 10.04 to 12.04
[14:34] <compdoc> lux12ss, you booted from the install cd and want to upgrade?
[14:34] <ra4king> Also, does Ubuntu Server come with a built in firewall enabled?
[14:34] <Guest9675> I don't want to upgrade ._.
[14:35] <arian__> I am not on that now
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ra4king, IIRC the firewall is present but not enabled
[14:35] <Guest9675> compdoc: Distribution upgrader started up itself
[14:35] <ra4king> cfhowlett: hmm ok
[14:35] <BluesKaj> lux , only if you have LTS upgrade enabled in the package manager
[14:35] <arian__> is chakra debian based?
[14:35] <ra4king> Why in the world when I disable the shorewall firewall, all connections are blocked?!
[14:35] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: The Linux kernel itself has a firewall (netfilter AKA iptables) so any modern Linux distro has a firewall by default. To check how it's configured check the output of 'iptables -L'
[14:36] <daveo> DeltaHeavy: will it take from 10.04 to 10.12? or 11.04?
[14:36] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: is it enabled by default?
[14:36] <DeltaHeavy> daveo: 10.10
[14:36] <x1k> ra4king: have you looked through the shorewall FAQ?
[14:36] <IdleOne> arian__: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you have questions about others distros please ask them about it.
[14:36] <daveo> DeltaHeavy: right, wrong numbers, sorry
[14:36] <ra4king> x1k: i have, and it says all outbound connections are open by default
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> lux 10.04 willl be supported until april 2013, after that, it is highly recommended to update to a version that is not EOL
[14:36] <ra4king> yet all outbound connections seem to be dropped for me
[14:37] <arian__> what is the channel of chakra?
[14:37] <arian__> can any body answer me?
[14:37] <IdleOne> !alis | arian__
[14:37] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: 10.04-server is supported until 2015.
[14:37] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: I don't know but I'm almost certain it is. It runs as a daemon so you can check if it's running with the 'service' command
[14:37] <BluesKaj> luce, stop asking a questions then changing your nick , stick with one pls
[14:37] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: ok thanks
[14:37] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: np
[14:37] <arian__> can you say 4 best distros "ubuntnu based"?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !best|arian__
[14:38] <luce> sorry >.<
[14:38] <luce> will anything happen if I cancel distribution upgrader though?
[14:38] <Tm_T> daveo: DeltaHeavy: 10.04 will upgrade to 12.04 by default
[14:38] <mneptok> arian__: this channel is strictly for Ubuntu support. try ##linux.
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> mneptok  correct, i guess i missed the server part in the question
[14:38] <Tm_T> daveo: actually, 12.04.1 but still
[14:38] <luce> Tm_T why?
[14:38] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: ok well I decided to completely uninstall shorewall
[14:39] <ra4king> and I'll look into the firewall you mentioned
[14:39] <luce> oldfags gonna hate precise. Tm_T
[14:39] <Tm_T> luce: LTS to LTS
[14:39] <Tm_T> luce: and you can stop it offering the upgrade if you want, it doesn't upgrade automatically anyway
[14:39] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: Personally I reccommend nothing but netfilter. It's built right into the kernel so that ensures an extra degree of security.
[14:39] <luce> Tm_T It should tell you that it's an actual distribution upgrade
[14:40] <arian__> can any body tell 4 better distors   ""ubuntu based""?
[14:40] <mneptok> Tm_T: is the -i flag still necessary for 10.04 users using "do-release-upgrade?"
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> luce simply don't run the distribution update
[14:40] <k1l> arian__: stop it
[14:40] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: alright then, I'll look into it
[14:40] <luce> We're not psychics... >.<
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> arian__  wrong channel
[14:40] <Tm_T> luce: it does tell, it won't do it unless you explicitly do release upgrade
[14:40] <luce> And I arleady did MonkeyDus
[14:40] <arian__> what channel I send this to?
[14:40] <luce> So I have to reinstall now ._.
[14:40] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: If you google 'iptables tutorial' that would probably lead to some good reasources on how to learn it. And of course there's always the man pages
[14:40] <Tm_T> luce: huh?
[14:40] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: ill read the man pages
[14:41] <luce> Thanks guys :(
[14:41] <k1l> the LTS wont upgrade to 12.04 untill 12.04.1 is opend. so there is no accidently upgrade
[14:41] <mneptok> k1l: see my previous question to Tm_T :)
[14:42] <arian__> MonkeyDust, can you say the right cahnnel for this work?
[14:42] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: Also just FYI some knowlege of networking goes a long way. netfilter isn't easy for people unknowlegable about networking, and even for those who are there's a fairly steep learning curve.
[14:42] <IdleOne> arian__: ##linux
[14:42] <Tm_T> mneptok: you mean -d ?
[14:42] <ra4king> DeltaHeavy: I am very knowledgeable about networking
[14:42] <mneptok> Tm_T: was it -d? right you are if you say so. :)
[14:43] <luce> any way I could stop distribution upgrader? can't find it on system monitor.
[14:43] <luce> I want to rollback >.<
[14:43] <Tm_T> luce: if you haven't explicitly said to your system "yes yes yes do release upgrade" it hasn't done it
[14:43] <k1l> mneptok: it was -d, but -d is for dev mode. it was just to climb over the LTS blocking. LTS only upgrades to the .1 release
[14:44] <DeltaHeavy> ra4king: Then it shouldn't be too hard for you. Good luck.
[14:44] <luce> Tm_T it prompted me >.<
[14:44] <sivapvarma> hi all
[14:44] <Tm_T> mneptok: and yes, unless you change file that defines the upgrade path
[14:44] <luce> I'm the average linux user >.>
[14:44] <luce> clicking yes on anything >.<
[14:45] <Tm_T> luce: you see dpkg running? if yes, don't kill it, you most likely end up with broken system
[14:45] <mneptok> luce: >.< <----- not puncutation. so please ...
[14:45] <luce> thanks Tm_T
[14:45] <Tm_T> luce: if not, I wonder if anything has happened anyway
[14:45] <sivapvarma> can any one help me fix this http://askubuntu.com/questions/160718/unable-to-boot-after-uninstalling-jupiter-applet-and-removing-entries-related-to
[14:45] <h3nris> hi
[14:46] <luce> can't kill it >.<
[14:46] <mneptok> k1l: AFAIK, the necessity of -d was a mistake. not a planned thing.
[14:46] <h3nris> IRC chat is better than yahoo ?
[14:46] <h3nris> =.=
[14:46] <luce> h3nris lol wut?
[14:46] <k1l> mneptok: the spirit of the LTS to LTS upgrade is, that you wait untill the .1 release.
[14:47] <h3nris> is it ?
[14:47] <mneptok> k1l: that has never been the case in the past.
[14:47] <IdleOne> !ot | h3nris
[14:47] <summentier> !help
[14:48] <summentier> @sivpvarma: did you try "sudo apt-get remove jupiter; sudo apt-get autoremove"?
[14:49] <dell> ...怎么用
[14:49] <IdleOne> !cn
[14:49] <sivapvarma> summentier: yeah I alread tried that, think I did not add sudo apt-get autoremove in askubuntu question
[14:50] <h3nris> I have set up a new Pinguys os, but my res is only 1024x768 , I use Intel onboard ... so what can I do to get 1366x768
[14:50] <bazhang> h3nris, pinguy is not supported here
[14:50] <h3nris> oh :(
[14:50] <lovenix> hllo, how is it possible to move a big file and see how much time is left with the commend mv ?
[14:50] <sivapvarma> h3nris: go to pinguy OS support forum or channel
[14:51] <h3nris> ok tks
[14:51] <LaOdeAliFarisi> https://www.facebook.com/groups/penguinsmakassar/
[14:51] <LaOdeAliFarisi> join
[14:51] <bazhang> LaOdeAliFarisi, dont spam here
[14:51] <DJones> LaOdeAliFarisi: Please don't advertise
[14:51] <LjL> lovenix: i don't believe it is, you'd have to use something else like rsync
[14:52] <madmax2> lovenix: You can't.
[14:52] <summentier> @sivapvarma: hummmm...  did you take a look at the syslogs (/var/log/syslog)  and its "rotated" versions (.1 etc.)?
[14:52] <lovenix> i can't copy the file is about 100gb
[14:53] <madmax2> lovenix: You can't show the process in mv or cp.
[14:54] <lovenix> and in gui form i don't want to close the session and log as admin
[14:54] <sivapvarma> summentier: Ok I will try doing that now
[14:54] <madmax2> lovenix: mv moves, cp copies the file. If you can't copy you can't move it. It's also very risky as the file size is high. Did you consider tar?
[14:55] <lovenix> no as is a dmg mac iso
[14:57] <jiffe98> I'm trying to setup 2 different init scripts to run 2 different instances of mongodb but when I try to kill one it kills both
[14:57] <madmax2> lovenix: I suggest not to use mv and use tar or similar. On a sidenote, can you mount .dmg and use the filesystem to cp the content in chunks?
[14:58] <popil> i'm unable to change my desktop background .Please help me .
[14:59] <haylo_> popil, do you get an option for "desktop" when you right click the desktop ?
[14:59] <haylo_> if not then i dont know
[15:00] <popil> haylo_  : yes , i have
[15:00] <haylo_> that should lead you to an option to set color
[15:00] <TomPamface> if you are using unity then you can also press the super key and search for it
[15:00] <stepan_yashkin> Привет. Вы можете помочь мне с убунту?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !ru|stepan_yashkin,
[15:01] <MaskilPDX> Anyone know of an application that I can get a task bar on both screens in Ubuntu?
[15:01] <popil> haylo_ : i clicked but don't do anything . :(
[15:01] <MaskilPDX> Like Multimonitor in Windows
[15:02] <sivapvarma> summentier: before getting into logs, I want ask what does this mean
[15:04] <sivapvarma> summentier: from tty1 when I try to reboot I am getting a message that says 'acpid: exiting',  will this happen normally
[15:04] <ksbalaji> my alacarte goes thus: http://pastebin.com/Yc2yhVhn cannot see apps -help!
[15:05] <maurizi0> Hi!
[15:05] <maurizi0> In Docky, how do I find Radio Stations Zip Codes to add to the NPR player in Docky?
[15:05] <summentier> @sivapvarma: I think so, yes. ACPI is the interface to the power management of your computer, which handles events like pressing the power button on your computer etc.
[15:05] <douglas_> Hello all! How do we get php working on ubuntu?
[15:06] <summentier> douglas_: Did you try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[15:06] <ksbalaji> how to start main-menu-editing from terminal please?
[15:07] <douglas_> thank you summentier! I'm going there.
[15:07] <t3r5354t> anyone try sysret?
[15:07] <t3r5354t> bug?
[15:07] <bharath> how can I download yelp-tools?
[15:07] <sivapvarma> summentier: any idea how to fix it
[15:08] <summentier> fix what?
[15:08] <bazhang> bharath, sudo apt-get install yelp-tools
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> bharath  it's in the software center, or use apt-get install
[15:10] <summentier> sivapvarma: What is the problem? You are now unable to shut down or to boot?
[15:10] <K1rk> What is network manager "reason 40"?
[15:11] <bharath> MonkeyDust: I can't find in ubuntu software center and using sudo apt-get ... it gives E: Unable to locate package yelp-tools
[15:11] <sivapvarma> summentier: as I explained in my askubuntu question I am now unable to boot into Unity, I am able to access only the tty terminals we get by Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc
[15:11] <maurizi0> Hi!, Where do I find ZIp Codes for NPR Radio Stations?
[15:12] <gudjon> can anyone recomend a good dns proxy server to install in ubuntu
[15:12] <ikonia> dns proxy ?
[15:12] <summentier> OK. So did you check /var/log/syslog?
[15:12] <CarlFK> NPR Radio Stations ?
[15:12] <ikonia> a dns proxy is just a caching dns server
[15:12] <summentier> (sorry for double-posting)  sivapvarma: Did you check /var/log/syslog?
[15:13] <IdleOne> maurizi0: try searching for USA zip codes
[15:13] <gudjon> i need to somthing to handle my home network.. my computers cand resolve the normal "urls"
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> bharath  maybe type sudo opt-get update, first
[15:14] <sivapvarma> summentier: doing it now,
[15:14] <popil> unable to change desktop in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select change desktop background .It open but when i click on image to change it doesn't change .
[15:16] <gudjon> i use my computer as a router (two ethernet's) my dhcp seem to be working but connected computers can resolve websites only ip's so.. i need some help with the dns
[15:16] <gudjon> cant*
[15:17] <maurizi0> IdleOne, :D Yes, I just figured out that is what ZIp Code refers to :D Just Zip Codes for the zones where the radio stations are located :S
[15:17] <maurizi0> Thnk you, IdleOne !
[15:18] <popil> unable to change desktop in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select change desktop background .It open but when i click on image to change it doesn't change .	
[15:18] <mneptok> maurizi0: USA: "
[15:18] <mneptok> gah
[15:19] <mneptok> maurizi0: USA: "zip code" versus Most Of The World: "postal code"
[15:19] <maurizi0> mneptok, NPR in docky only works for USA radio stations?
[15:19] <mneptok> maurizi0: by definition NPR only works with US stations, as NPR is "National Public Radio" of the US
[15:20] <maurizi0> AH, ok, I see, thank you mneptok
[15:20] <popil> unable to change desktop in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select change desktop background .It open but when i click on image to change it doesn't change .	
[15:20] <mneptok> maurizi0: you .it?
[15:21] <szal> popil: the space goes after the full stop, not before
[15:21] <bharath> MonkeyDust: even though I got the same error?
[15:21] <popil> szal : ? .haha , don't get you . : )
[15:22] <maurizi0> mneptok, I do not understand (you .it?)
[15:22] <mneptok> maurizi0: are you an Italian? :)
[15:22] <maurizi0> mneptok, I am from Peru.
[15:22] <ra4king> hey guys, what does this error mean: "php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution"
[15:23] <Shizuo16> Ubuntu Can't detect My Graphical card in my laptop "no Nvida"
[15:23] <mneptok> maurizi0: claro
[15:23] <ra4king> does it mean DNS servers aren't working or are outbound connections blocked?
[15:23] <maurizi0> :D
[15:23] <sivapvarma> summentier: there is something about BIOS-provided physical ram map
[15:23] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I accidentally installed Ubuntu with Wubi instead of on a separate parition; how can I remove it?
[15:24] <maurizi0> gracias mneptok
[15:24] <mneptok> maurizi0: NPR is to radio in the US what Televisión Nacional del Perú is to TV in Peru.
[15:24] <gudjon> cant get computers on homenetwork to be able to serf the web. pinging ip's work but not the web
[15:24] <mneptok> maurizi0: y de nada.
[15:24] <maurizi0> :D
[15:24] <joubin> @gudjon can you see if your apt-get works?
[15:25] <maurizi0> mneptok, where are you from?
[15:25] <gudjon> @joubin yeah it works
[15:25] <mneptok> maurizi0: Nuevo Mexico, EU
[15:25] <popil> unable to change desktop in ubuntu 12.04 .When i right click on desktop and select "change desktop background"it pop up a box  but when i click on image to change wallpaper ,nothing will happen.
[15:25] <joubin> @gudjon, I recomment trying to remove firefox or whatever browser you are using and reinstalling it
[15:25] <ra4king> Can anyone help?
[15:25] <sivapvarma> summentier: and then a bunch of hex numbers saying usable or reserved or etc
[15:26] <bharath> MonkeyDust: can you please help on this issue?
[15:26] <gudjon> @joubin my computer is setup as an router no issue connecting to the internet on the ubuntu machine.. only problem sharing it
[15:26] <summentier> sivapvarma: this thing can be quite huge, try to skip the first couple of pages and look for some error messages.
[15:27] <sivapvarma> summentier: also there is one message that says Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole'
[15:27] <ra4king> HOLY CRAP
[15:27] <ra4king> HOLY MOTHER OF CRAP
[15:27] <joubin> @gudjon, my appoligies. I didnt read that. I would run TCPDUMP and see is moving. I think it could be a problem with firewol or selinux
[15:27] <FloodBot1> ra4king: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27]  * ra4king shoots something
[15:27] <ra4king> FloodBot1: sorry bot
[15:27] <joubin> @gudjon has it worked in the past?
[15:27] <ra4king> what just happened?
[15:27] <shalmezad> If someone has a minute, I would greatly appreciate if someone could help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086300/
[15:27] <DJones> !language | ra4king
[15:28] <rudivs> what is the difference between the admin group and the sudo group on ubuntu? And how do you add yourself to the sudo group if you're only in the admin group? I ran 'sudo adduser username sudo' but I'm still only in the admin group
[15:28] <ra4king> DJones: sorry
[15:28] <ra4king> I'm pissed
[15:28] <popil> MonkeyDust :unable to change desktop in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select change desktop background .It open but when i click on image to change it doesn't change .	
[15:28] <ra4king> For days, I thought there was something wrong with my server
[15:28] <ra4king> and it happened to be that it didn't know what DNS servers to use
[15:28]  * ra4king feels dumb
[15:28] <bharath> bazhang : I am unable to install yelp-tools using apt-get
[15:28] <summentier> sivapvarma: That's interesting. Try to google that message, I unfortunately never had the problem myself.
[15:29] <gudjon> @joubin yeah i got it to work. on old computer. i upgraded to 11.04 and then the messed up stuff started.. Im able to run the dhcp service and my computers get internet.. but they just cant reolve the domain names
[15:29] <bazhang> bharath, what version of ubuntu, how fresh is this install
[15:29] <sivapvarma> summentier: it also gave a link www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 beside that error message
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ra4king, OpenDNS?
[15:30] <joubin> @gudjon. Hmm. When ever I have issues like this, i reinstall the components. Sounds like youre more advanced than I am. Sorry i wasnt able to help.
[15:30] <popil> bazhang: unable to change desktop background in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select "change desktop background ".It open but when i click on image to change background ,it  doesn't change .	
[15:30] <bharath> bazhang: 10.10
[15:31] <ra4king> BluesKaj: no no, the server itself didn't have any DNS servers defined
[15:31] <ra4king> I forgot to include dns-nameservers in /etc/networking/interface
[15:31] <bazhang> bharath, that is no longer supported. upgrade to a supported version
[15:31] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | bharath read this
[15:32] <summentier> Did you try this:
[15:32] <summentier> sivapvarma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/830046/comments/3
[15:32] <cek2> how do I manage the services with upstart? want to disable 1 and enable another
[15:33] <Shizuo16> any one can tell me how can i install my Graphic Card i think ubuntu can't autodetected !!
[15:33] <popil> unable to change desktop background in ubuntu 12.04 .Please help me .When i right click on desktop and select change desktop background .It open but when i click on image to change background .it doesn't change .	
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ra4king , I see , I'm not familiar with hosting a webserver and it's dns srequirements , I'm surprised the name servers are supposed to be listed in the interfaces file .
[15:34] <ra4king> BluesKaj: me too
[15:35] <Shizuo16> any one can tell me how can i install my Graphic Card i think ubuntu can't autodetected !!
[15:35] <ra4king> BluesKaj: i thought they would be automatically assigned from whatever the router was using
[15:35] <ra4king> but apparently not
[15:35] <popil> can anyone help me ?
[15:36] <sivapvarma> @summentier: doing that now
[15:37] <mneptok> popil: please do not repeat the question every 2-3 minutes. wait 10 or so. and if someone knows they will probably answer.
[15:37] <shalmezad> If someone has a minute, can I get some help with a dual-screen issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086300/
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ra4king, it used be required in resolv.conf , but now  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  is the required file , even though there's warning that the resolv.conf will be overwritten , which it does but with the nameservers listed there ..strange and convoluted indeed .
[15:38] <ra4king> BluesKaj: heh
[15:38] <mneptok> ra4king: you'll probably also want "dns-search" and "dns-domains" entries in the interfaces file, too.
[15:38] <ra4king> BluesKaj: well things work now, so I'm not touching anything else :D
[15:38] <ra4king> mneptok: ?
[15:38] <sivapvarma> summentier: how to connect to wifi in recovery mode
[15:38] <ra4king> mneptok: what would I put for those?
[15:38] <mneptok> ra4king: same as the "dns-servers" entry
[15:39] <mneptok> ra4king: err ... dns-nameservers
[15:39] <ra4king> mneptok: well...things work without it.....so I'm not gonna bother putting them
[15:39] <mneptok> ra4king: put them in there now, before you forget what they are. just leave them commented out.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ra4king, giotcha :)
[15:40] <ra4king> mneptok: forget what? i'm simply using the google dns servers
[15:40] <ra4king> I added "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4"
[15:40] <ra4king> that's all
[15:40] <mneptok> ra4king: forget that it is "dns-search" and "dns-domains" that you are missing.
[15:41] <ra4king> mneptok: what will happen if I don't put those? O_o
[15:41] <BarkingFish> Good afternoon all. I wonder if I may get your help on something.  I have a video editing program here which I believe was intended for use with Gnome - it's called Kino, and despite the fact that I have Gnome's base installed, the program does not function properly.  Would someone be kind enough to help me figure out why please?
[15:42] <mneptok> ra4king: if you end up needing them in the future because of an update or whatever, you prolly won;t remember what i said.
[15:42] <ra4king> mneptok: ah
[15:42] <BarkingFish> The install doesn't say it's missing anything, and nothing pops up as being required when I apt-get it after removing it.
[15:42] <ra4king> mneptok: ok so do I put dns-search 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[15:42] <mneptok> ra4king: so add the lines, but comment them out if you feel you do not need them.
[15:42] <ra4king> mneptok: is that what I do though?
[15:42] <mneptok> ra4king: if/when DNS goes wonky, go uncomment them, restart networking, and hope your karma is good. :)
[15:43] <ra4king> mneptok: googling around, it seems dns-nameservers is the only thing I need
[15:43] <ra4king> I'll just put in a comment for those two entries you suggested
[15:43] <mneptok> ra4king: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/  <--- that's from a coredev. :)
[15:44] <ceyes> p
[15:44] <mneptok> ra4king: and apparently i messed up by pluralizing "dns-domains"
[15:44] <mneptok> ra4king: just "dns-domain"
[15:45] <ra4king> mneptok: now, it doesn't say what to put for dns-search and dns-domain
[15:45] <rocki34> Question: When I try to install aircrack-ng it tells me it's been replaced with iw
[15:45] <rocki34> how do I install aircrack?
[15:45] <mneptok> ra4king: the GOOG servers you're using for nameservers are fine
[15:46] <quixotedon> rocki34: aircrack-ng can't be installed on 12.04
[15:46] <BarkingFish> rocky34 - we don't supply aircrack-ng or its additional programs anymore, I don't think we have for a long time
[15:46] <rocki34> BarkingFish: What? Why not?
[15:47] <rocki34> BarkingFish: So I need to install a different distro if I want to use it?
[15:47] <quixotedon> rocki34: the development team at aircraft-ng doesn't continue doing so
[15:47] <quixotedon> rocki34: kind of
[15:47] <popil> Repeat : unable to change desktop background in ubuntu 12.04 .Help me out !
[15:48] <ok_> rocki34 http://securit.se/en/2012/03/kompilera-reaver-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:48] <ok_> rocki34: i got it going and a bit of testing
[15:48] <BarkingFish> rocki34, there are distros which include it, such as backtrack, but we don't support that either.
[15:48] <linvex> who is there?
[15:48] <rocki34> ok_: Wow, thanks dude. I'll try it. Hopefully it works.
[15:49] <ok_> need to be smart about ur tcdumping tho
[15:49] <ok_> get perms issues like a bitch
[15:49] <ok_> it is tcdump?
[15:49] <Blues003> Being abroad with a sucky computer = greatest excuse ever to intsall Ubuntu on said computer
[15:49] <Blues003> :D
[15:49] <ok_> whichever dump it is
[15:49] <IdleOne> ok_: Please keep the language clean
[15:49] <ok_> anyway you got run the dump as root and dump into a file ur allowed to
[15:49] <maurizi0> Docky seems to have Network problems in 12.04 Precise. NPR and Gmail Dockelts do not work at all.
[15:49] <ok_> then you can view the dump in wireshark etc as user
[15:50] <maurizi0> Docky 2.1.4 Release
[15:50] <ok_> idleone: sorry
[15:51] <rocki34> ok_: I'm quite new to linux, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Basically, if I run into trouble, I'll ask :)
[15:51] <BarkingFish> maurizi0, other people here have reported issues with the 12.04 version of Docky, such as the weather docklet not working either.  I'm not sure if bugs have been filed concerning this, but I will check -  if there are, you may be able to comment on them or file your own.
[15:51] <ok_> rocki34: id recommend doing some reading around about user and file permissions if i were you then
[15:51] <ok_> you'll need to know
[15:52] <rocki34> ok_: I don't know. I feel like it would be less of a hassle to just install backtrack.
[15:52] <maurizi0> BarkingFish, It seems that every single docklet that uses the network in Docky are failed.
[15:53] <BarkingFish> including the networkmanager, it seems :)
[15:53] <ok_> rocki34: yea ur right, i would go that route if you just want access to those tools
[15:53] <BarkingFish> Have a look through this list, maurizi0 - and if anything looks similar to your issue, login and file against it - if not, you can also file your own bug.
[15:53] <ok_> rocki34: i didn't have that option readily available
[15:54] <BarkingFish> maurizi0, > https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search%20Bug%20Reports&field.scope=project&field.scope.target=docky&orderby=id&start=0
[15:54] <maurizi0> thank you BarkingFish
[15:54] <rocki34> ok_: BT has a bunch of its own problems, though. Oh well, I'll try to make a liv CD, shouldn't be too terrible.
[15:54] <BarkingFish> no problem
[15:54] <ok_> rocki34: also if you're just learning pen testing id recommend the book the backtrack guys have written on it for use on backtrack
[15:54] <ok_> as a start point
[15:55] <ok_> rocki34: oh yea thats what I'm saying, i wouldn't consider using BT as my regular os, only use it when its needed
[15:55] <rocki34> ok_: Maybe when I seriously want to start learning about pen testing. Right now I just want to be able to use reaver.
[15:55] <rocki34> ok_: Yeah, definitely not as a primary.
[15:56] <rocki34> ok_: Wait, so did you get reaver to work in the end, or not?
[15:56] <ok_> I've got an install on a 16gb usb stick that does me
[15:56] <ok_> at least then i get some persistence
[15:57] <ok_> i didn't play with reaver sorry
[15:57] <ok_> ur q was about aircrack
[15:57] <ok_> that link just happened to include it
[15:57] <rocki34> ok_: Yeah, because you need aircrack to make reaver work.
[15:57] <ra4king> hey guys how do I open port 21 from shorewall
[15:58] <rocki34> ok_: Alright I'll use my 8G stick as a live cd.
[15:59] <rocki34> ok_:Thanks for the help
[16:00] <popil> unable to change desktop background in ubuntu 12.04 .Help me
[16:00] <quixotedon> rocki34: according to the linke provided by ok_, seems that you install reaver first, then build aircrack-ng app, cmiiw  :)
[16:01] <rocki34> quixotedon: Yeah, but the thing is, to use reaver you need to put your wireless card into monitor mode. And to do that, you need aircrack-ng.
[16:01] <popil> !ot
[16:01] <quixotedon> rocki34: really? well, no experience on the app first
[16:03] <rocki34> quixotedon: Unless there's another app that can do that, I'll need to use backtrack.
[16:04] <rocki34> ok_: You used unetbootin for the live CD, right?
[16:04] <craigbass1976> I've got samba installed, and I have a wide open directory called /share  If I write to this directory from a windows box, everything is nobody:nobody with 777.  I've mounted it up with fstab as the same user into /home/craig/share   When I create a file, it's owned by nobody:nobody, but the perms are 775.  No good.  Is this a user problem or a samba issue?
[16:04] <ok_> rocki34: nah i won't have, think i dd'd it
[16:04] <quixotedon> rocki34: you can also install aircrack-ng on windows, if you have one running
[16:05] <ok_> rocki34: either that or run the cd in a vm and then install to usb from the vm
[16:05] <ok_> rocki34: imo netbootin blows
[16:05] <rocki34> ok_: How come you don't like it?
[16:06] <ra4king> Ok new question: how do I setup SFTP on my Ubuntu Server 12.04 install?
[16:06] <ok_> rocki34: well basically my primary os is os x and there are better tools that i find more reliable available
[16:06] <craigbass1976> ra4king, just run ssh (openssh-server) and programs like Filezilla will play nice with it
[16:06] <ok_> in a ubuntu forum that opinion prob wasn't valid
[16:07] <ra4king> craigbass1976: yeah I have SSH installed
[16:07] <rocki34> ok_: Oh ok, yeah that makes sense.
[16:07] <ra4king> craigbass1976: do I need to open port 21?
[16:07] <craigbass1976> ra4king, openssh-server?
[16:07] <ra4king> yes
[16:07] <craigbass1976> ra4king, I think ssh is 22
[16:07] <ra4king> ssh is 22, so sftp also uses 22?
[16:07] <craigbass1976> ra4king, no idea
[16:09] <Pici> ra4king: yes
[16:09] <rocki34> Question: I want to use a USB stick as a Live CD for Ubuntu. Which program can I use to install it on there without much hassle?
[16:09] <ra4king> Uh oh, big problem. Wordpress doesn't support SFTP
[16:09] <ra4king> crap
[16:10] <rocki34> I am running linux so I need a linux compatible program.
[16:11] <ok_> rocki34: dude just boot the live cd and install to usb
[16:12] <rocki34> ok_: Using virtualbox?
[16:12] <popil> unable to change background in ubuntu 12.04
[16:12] <ok_> rocki34: unplug all ur hd's if you're worried about messing with stuff
[16:12] <resc_user_3003> hey guys
[16:12] <ok_> rocki34: either way
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> any solution yet for that corrupt mouse pointer at ubuntu first boot?
[16:12] <ok_> rocki34: vm way at least you get to use ur machine for other stuff while its going
[16:13] <resc_user_3003> can somebody help me with my grub loader_
[16:13] <resc_user_3003> i installed win7 first and then ubuntu 12.04, but i cannot boot my windows via grub loader now
[16:13] <BluesKaj> resc_user_3003, have you run sudo update-grub , since the install?
[16:14] <ok_> rocki34: so yea do you get me, boot vm from disk, mount usb, install OR boot machine from live disc and install to usb
[16:14] <resc_user_3003> i downloaded rescatux and updated grub
[16:14] <ok_> rocki34: sorry by mount usb i just mean connect it to the vm
[16:15] <resc_user_3003> in grub i can choose >windows 7 loader<. is this correct?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> resc_user_3003: what kinda error u getting after choosing win7?
[16:15] <rocki34> ok_: The problem is a don't have a disc, which is why I need to use the USB.
[16:15] <ok_> resc_user_3003: if you've got a windows boot disk present then yes it is
[16:15] <ok_> ah ok well vm way ur golden
[16:15] <ok_> no disc needed
[16:15] <resc_user_3003> the screen turns black and then i get back to grub loader
[16:15] <c3l> I have an entry in ~/.config/autostart/myautostart.desktop but it does not appear to get executed, do I need to do something more for it to work?
[16:16] <ok_> just connect the iso to one of the virtual drives and away you go
[16:16] <rocki34> ok_: And I need a program to get the ISO which I download from the BT site to go on my USB...right?
[16:16] <resc_user_3003> it is 1hdd with 2x250gb partition, 1 for ubuntu and 1 for linux
[16:16] <ok_> nah man
[16:16] <rocki34> ok_: Gotcha.
[16:16] <ok_> ur guna do a standard install to ur usb drive
[16:16] <ok_> the only software ur using is ur vm
[16:16] <resc_user_3003> (btw sorry for my bad english)
[16:16] <rocki34> ok_: Yeah, I get what you're saying.
[16:17] <douglas_> Hi all. So someone know how to get a web server loading php files? Mine is only loading html.
[16:17] <ok_> radical
[16:17] <rocki34> ok_: So I don't download the ISO, but the VM image?
[16:17] <ok_> nooo
[16:17] <rocki34> ok_: I download the ISO
[16:17] <ok_> u can go that way if you want tho
[16:17] <ok_> you can just do everything you want in a vm
[16:17] <rocki34> ok_: And then what?
[16:18] <gjorge> hey douglas_ here is a link: http://ubuntuexperiment.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/installing-apache-php-mysql/
[16:18] <rocki34> ok_: So, what am I running in the VM?
[16:18] <douglas_> Thank you gjorge. :)
[16:18] <Brockstedt> hey Everyone, I had to leave earlier so I need to repost: we have installed an Ubuntu 11.10 server which we are having an issue with it not allowing connections after idle for approximately 2 minutes. We have to log on to the box and ping a network address for other network host to be able to connect to it again.Has anyone a suggestion as to the cause of this? Thanks
[16:18] <rocki34> ok_: Sorry man, I'm confused.
[16:19] <resc_user_3003> well, no ideas?
[16:19] <ok_> rocki34: you need to have a little think about how you want to use BT, if its just casual use of a few tools then you should see how you go with a VM INSTALL(not live)
[16:19] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Have you looked at the logs to see if there is a clue there?
[16:20] <ok_> rocki34: i wouldn't bother using the live version for much, you want an install, the VM image you can get (i think) is an install, or you can create ur own install by running the live disk either in a vm or natively on ur pc
[16:21] <Brockstedt> I looked at the syslog but did not see anything that stood out, but I'm sort of new to linux, but company wants to use linux for this server.
[16:21] <resc_user_3003> i want to fix the grub loader now, but i dont know how to do this with rescatux
[16:21] <rocki34> ok_: I just want BT installed on my USB with some persistance.
[16:21] <ok_> rocki34: sorry NB running live disk on machine and then installing to a disk (any disk, a hd, a virtual hd created by ur vm or usb etc)
[16:22] <ok_> just depends how you run it
[16:22] <ok_> also NB i can't currently get usb's to boot on a vm
[16:22] <ok_> if anyone knows how to do that id appreciate it
[16:22] <ok_> played with super grub disk 2 a bit
[16:22] <ok_> but yea back on topic
[16:23] <rocki34> hahaha
[16:23] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Could be an IP conflict as well.  Have you checked the network for a possible conflict?
[16:23] <ok_> rocki34: so yea the only way you can run ur usb install is by booting ur com[puter off the usb disk
[16:23] <gjorge> hey ok_ here is how to on that usb problem: http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=31726
[16:23] <rocki34> ok_: Alright, I'm installing Virtualbox. I'll go from there.
[16:23] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Is it on a static IP or set to a static lease?
[16:23] <ok_> rocki34: but you can do the install in a vm as vm's will boot off an iso image
[16:24] <Brockstedt> yep, that was the first thought I had yesterday and verified ip was good
[16:24] <rocki34> ok_: OOOHHhhh. So I can use the ISO in the VM? Didn't know that.
[16:24] <usr13__> Brockstedt: When it goes down, can you ping it's own IP?
[16:25] <Brockstedt> i'll check, brb
[16:25] <ok_> rocki34: ok so ur steps are to get the BT live iso, boot the vm off the iso image, connect the usb disk, double click the installer on the desktop and then when you get to the hd bit you want to point it at ur usb, don't work about what its telling you its gina format coz its only the vm that will be affected and its only a live disk on top of that
[16:25] <Relondo> How can I choose to never show mounted drives on the desktop?
[16:25] <usr13__> Brockstedt: (Assuming you have a keyboard and monitor hooked to it...)
[16:25] <edmora>  i just cant seem to figure out how to add that free sapce back to my C: drive
[16:26] <rocki34> ok_: Thanks, I'll get to it.
[16:26] <gjorge> Relondo in ubuntu (newer versions) mounted drives are not displayed on the desktop
[16:26] <ok_> you'll need to make sure you install grub to the disk as well
[16:27] <gjorge> Relondo which distribution are you using?
[16:27] <Relondo> gjorge: I'm on 12.04. But they only appear after I access them, from the file manager (Which is called Nautilus on Ubuntu, right?)
[16:27] <gjorge> Relondo yeah.. They are not mounted on startup
[16:27] <gjorge> I do the exact same thing all the time
[16:28] <Relondo> gjorge: Makes sense. So, how can I make them not appear on the desktop, ever?
[16:28] <gjorge> Relondo: by the desktop you mean in nautilus?
[16:28] <GhstWlf> Hello, where do I find tap in the filesystem? (12.04)
[16:29] <gjorge> tap?
[16:29] <GhstWlf> tun/tap tap
[16:30] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Have you been able to do updates on it?  (Would be my next question.)  ( sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade )  If it hasn't been done yet, try it and see if the process gets interrupted after the 2 minutes is up.  (It would also be interesting to know if it happens at the exact time each time, so if you can, time it and see exactly how much time it takes...   Can you correct it by restarting the network?  i.e.  /etc/init.d/networking stop
[16:31] <Relondo> gjorge: No, I mean, as soon as the drive is mounted, an icon appears on my desktop.
[16:31] <zykotick9> GhstWlf: mine shows up as br0
[16:32] <Relondo> gjorge: Happens with my actual hard drive, PSP, Flash drives, everything.
[16:32] <edmora> i just cant seem to figure out how to add that free sapce back to my C: drive
[16:32] <gjorge> Relondo: well i don't have that problem - you can try and use MyUnity or Ubuntu Tweak
[16:32] <codingman> !patience | edmora
[16:32] <Relondo> gjorge: I have MyUnity. I'll look through those settings. What's Ubuntu Tweak?
[16:33] <codingman> ubuntu tweak is like MyUnity
[16:33] <codingman> only slightly different
[16:33] <GhstWlf> zykotick9, br0 = bridge zero
[16:33] <Relondo> codingman: Okay.
[16:33] <Relondo> Is there any way to get my launcher bar on the bottom of my screen?
[16:34] <codingman> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[16:34] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Actually, nowadays, we are supposed to use service, (the way RedHat'ers do it).  service networking stop ; service networking start  Or maybe just service networking restart (But I have found that stop and start are usually more reliable when trying to correct some kind of problem like this.)
[16:34] <Relondo> codingman: Cool, thanks. What's the package name for Ubuntu Tweak, do you know?
[16:34] <revol0xf> Relondo: To disable automount, you need to unset the automount option under org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[16:35] <codingman> Relondo: saerching
[16:35] <Relondo> revol0xf: What's "org.gnome..."?
[16:35] <revol0xf> user dconf editor to edit
[16:35] <codingman> Relondo: the package is ubuntu-tweak
[16:35] <revol0xf> use*
[16:35] <Brockstedt> user13__: Yes I can ping it's own nic and it is did updates. I have not tried restarting the network. it appears to be stopping every 90 seconds of idle time.
[16:35] <codingman> :D
[16:36] <Relondo> codingman: Thanks :)
[16:36] <edmora> i just cant seem to figure out how to add that free sapce back to my C: drive
[16:36] <codingman> Relondo:your welcome :)
[16:36] <Relondo> codingman: Hm...can't find the package. I'll just use the software center.
[16:36] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Did this happen before the updates were done?  (probably not, right?)
[16:36] <codingman> edmora: have you tried a live disk?
[16:37] <Brockstedt> yes
[16:37] <codingman> Relondo: that's odd
[16:37] <Relondo> revol0xf: Sorry, I just don't really know what you're talking about :/
[16:37] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Yes, it *did* happen before updates were done?
[16:37] <Brockstedt> would it be worth a try to upgrade to 12
[16:37] <edmora> no not yet its on a windows 7 that i want to dual boot with ubuntu
[16:38] <Brockstedt> yes it did happen before the updates
[16:38] <Relondo> codingman: Can't find it in the center, either.
[16:38] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Yes, might be a good thing to do.  Especially since 12.04 is LTS
[16:38] <codingman> edmora: insert an ubuntu disk, then it will show a pop up and then you can choose to use wubi
[16:39] <codingman> Relondo: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[16:39] <Relondo> edmora: I'd recommend not using Wubi if at all possible.
[16:39] <Brockstedt> ok, I will start the upgrade and post whether the issue has been resolved. Thank you for your help and time usr13
[16:39] <Relondo> codingman: Thakn.s
[16:39] <usr13__> Brockstedt: What NIC is it?  lspci |grep Ethernet
[16:39] <edmora> what is wubi sorry i dont know
[16:39] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Can you first tell me what Ethernet adapter it is?
[16:39] <Relondo> revol0xf: So what was that gnome.org thing you were talking about?
[16:39] <MechanisM> how to solve this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086461/
[16:40] <revol0xf> Relondo: okay, first install dconf editor(sudo apt-get install dconf-tools)
[16:40] <codingman> edmora: wubi is Windows Ubuntu Installer
[16:40] <Relondo> edmora: It installs Ubuntu inside windows.
[16:40] <revol0xf> it's contains all the settings GNOME applications use.
[16:40] <usr13__> Brockstedt: And if it is 10/100 or 1000
[16:40] <Brockstedt> shows Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit
[16:41] <codingman> edmora: try popping in the 'buntu cd
[16:41] <edmora> oh ok and will that also help me make a new partition
[16:41] <codingman> yes
[16:41] <Relondo> edmora: You can't hibernate with Wubi. It also suffers slightly reduced performance, some bugs, and less stability. But it is good for trying it out.
[16:41] <Relondo> edmora: But yes, you can use Gparted from inside it.
[16:41] <Relondo> revol0xf: But I'm on  Unity.
[16:42] <edmora> ok i will test it out and see how it goes
[16:42] <codingman> edmora: you can also boot into the cd and go through setup, there is a choice to install alongside windows.
[16:42] <edmora> ok ill try that first
[16:42] <Relondo> edmora: 'Course, you can use Gparted from a LiveCD without installing at all...and you can install Wubi from inside Windows itself.
[16:42] <girffe> Hi, I want to write a bash script that compares two files and sees which one is older. Right now I'm using ls -l to get the timestamp for the file but this timestamp doesn't include the year. Is there a way to see the entire timestamp in bash?
[16:42] <codingman> edmora: what Relondo said
[16:43] <revol0xf> Relondo: yes, you are :). It's a shell that uses Gnome applications(Nautilus)
[16:43] <edmora> does it matter what live cd
[16:43] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Ok, is the rest of your network Gigabit?    (And I know it *shouldn't* matter but...)
[16:43] <Relondo> edmora: What exactly is your issue, anyway?
[16:43] <Relondo> revol0xf: Oh, so Unity is just like a slightly modified version of GNOME?
[16:43] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Particularly, is it connected to a Gagabit switch, (or router)?
[16:44] <jd2> i am having an issue with my hostname i have to use .local appended to the hostname or use the IP address how can I use just the host name is this an ubuntu issue or router problem? i type hostname and it feeds me back my hostname without the .local extension i don't know why i have to add this thanks
[16:44] <edmora> i want to add a partition that i recently deleted back to my primary C: drive
[16:44] <revol0xf> Relondo: I wouldn't say modified, another application layer
[16:44] <nandersson> Hi, is preseed the most efficient way to do unattended ubuntu-installations? The installation takes like forever compared to a normal Ubuntu-installation. Wouldn't it be smarter to just take a standard-image and "dd" it to /dev/sda and that's about it?
[16:44] <ai9371> 87
[16:44] <Relondo> edmora: Hm. Didn't know you could restore deleted partitions.
[16:44] <revol0xf> on top of Gnome
[16:44] <Relondo> revol0xf: Ah.
[16:45] <codingman> edmora: you cannot change you're C: drive while using it.
[16:45] <Brockstedt> The Cisco 3750 it is attached to is Gigabit but we do have some older cisco switches that are 10/100 in the network
[16:45] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Also, the cable.  Can you replace the ethernet (cat5) cable?  (Just to eleminate all possible problems).
[16:45] <edmora> im sorry i think im mixing everyone up letme explain
[16:45] <jd2> cat 5e or 6
[16:45] <codingman> edmora: how about a private chat?
[16:45] <Relondo> revol0xf: Okay, I have dconf.
[16:45] <Brockstedt> usr13__: I tried that yesterday as well, I should have mentioned that.
[16:45] <Balask> Hello. I have to reinstall Ubuntu on a machine that doesn't boot anymore that had a server distro of Ubuntu.  I was wondering what files I need to save so that it will still have all the user account and the folders they are linked to as well as allow SSH
[16:46] <jd2> depends on what IRC you're using
[16:46] <Relondo> edmora: Invite me, too. Might be able to hely.
[16:46] <Relondo> edmora: *Help
[16:46] <codingman> Relondo: we will :D
[16:46] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Well, sometimes that can be a problem, (from what I've heard), but I can't give any particulars, because, I've yet to run into it on my own.
[16:46] <revol0xf> Relondo: now launch the dconf editor from the dash.
[16:46] <edmora> how do i private chat lol
[16:46] <ok_> edmora: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[16:47] <Relondo> revol0xf: Okay.
[16:47] <nandersson> Balask, /etc/passwd* /etc/group* /etc/shadow* /home/*
[16:47] <codingman> edmora: i started one with you
[16:47] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Something like this requires some detective work. One other thing you could try, (which is what I would try  next), would be to put another NIC in it and see what it does.
[16:47] <GhstWlf> Where is the network devices located in 12.04? I am used to look in /dev for something like /dev/eth0
[16:47] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Surely you have another NIC somewere you can slap in it.  Right?
[16:47] <nandersson> Balask, works if user-home-directories are not encrypted.
[16:47] <revol0xf> Relondo: and then go org->gnome->desktop->media-handling
[16:47] <codingman> edmora: can't see it?
[16:48] <Balask> There shouldn't be encrypted.  I can access a linux install with a live cd of a linux install right?
[16:48] <usr13__> Brockstedt: ... preferable not one identical to the one that is being used now too.
[16:48] <nandersson> Balask, yes
[16:48] <Relondo> revol0xf: Alright.
[16:48] <Balask> thank you very much
[16:49] <Brockstedt> usr13__: you having mentioned the port speeds reminds me that we had a customer who experienced up/down issues between a firewall and switch till we statically set the speeds on the ports. I will try that and see if it helps. will let you know. The NIC is virtual, this is on a vm
[16:49] <usr13__> o
[16:50] <Relondo> codingman: What's the command to run .deb packages, again?
[16:50] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Well, you could still change it, even if it is on a VM, it's just that more than one system has to be told to use it.
[16:50] <codingman> Relondo: what do you mean?
[16:50] <revol0xf> Relondo: you can then unset the automount option.
[16:50] <nandersson> Relondo, dpkg
[16:51] <nosfera2> Greetings. Im building a new system  with an i3-2120 1155 cpu and plan to use onboard video.  I just need a good motherbaord recommendation, something that will just work right out of the box.
[16:51] <Relondo> codingman: What Nandersson said. Thanks, Nandersson.
[16:51] <franci> j #ubutu-si
[16:51] <zykotick9> Relondo: "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" should work
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> nosfera2: join ##hardware
[16:51] <usr13__> Brockstedt: When a network is converted to Gibabit,  it is best to get rid of all 10/100 components.
[16:51] <usr13__> Brockstedt: and nics
[16:51] <nosfera2> ty
[16:51] <Relondo> revol0xf: I don't think that's what my problem is. I don't care if the drives are mounted, but I don't want them to appear on the desktop, at all, even after they mount.
[16:52] <Relondo> zykotick9: K.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust>  Relondo Advanced settings, Desktop
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> any solution yet for that corrupted mouse pointer in ubuntu first time the pc boots?
[16:53] <Relondo> monkeydust: In Dconf?
[16:53] <arcaico> Hello Everybody! I want to enable wifi (my notebook).. What is the way?
[16:53] <arcaico> search drivers not found
[16:54] <franci> I get this error: Any idea: libhtml-parser-perl: Odvisen od: perl (>= 5.10.0-24ubuntu4) but 5.8.8-12ubuntu0.5 is installed and it is kept back. dependes on od: perlapi-5.10.0 which is a virtual package.
[16:54] <franci>   util-linux-locales: Odvisen od: util-linux (>= 2.17.2-0) but 2.13.1-5ubuntu3.1 is installed and it is kept back.
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Relondo  no, the progam Advanced Settings
[16:54] <Relondo> monkeydust: Ah. Package?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Relondo  it's called gnome-tweak-tool
[16:54] <Relondo> monkeydust: Thanks.
[16:54] <codingman> !wifi|arcaico
[16:55] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm getting problems with every single kind of application. Occasionally things will just flat out crash. It's happend in every application I use often. These are the errors I get, anybody know how to fix this?
[16:55] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561398] show_signal_msg: 21 callbacks suppressed
[16:55] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561406] filezilla[3762]: segfault at 58 ip 00eedb32 sp bfa666f0 error 4 in libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0.7.0[dbd000+303000]
[16:55] <Brockstedt> sur13__: gonna swap the nic will brb
[16:56] <DeltaHeavy> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 FYI
[16:57] <revol0xf> Relondo: Ahh!, sorry, then it's the gnome-tweak-tool as MonkeyDust has suggested.
[16:58] <Relondo> revol0xf: Lol, no problem. Thanks for your help, though. You too, MonkeyDust.
[16:59] <kubanc2>  I get this error: Any idea: libhtml-parser-perl: Odvisen od: perl (>= 5.10.0-24ubuntu4) but 5.8.8-12ubuntu0.5 is installed and it is kept back. dependes on od: perlapi-5.10.0 which is a virtual package.
   util-linux-locales: Odvisen od: util-linux (>= 2.17.2-0) but 2.13.1-5ubuntu3.1 is installed and it is kept back.
[16:59] <raven> does anyone know about a simple cart/jingleplayer?
[17:00] <DeltaHeavy> Does Ubuntu have known stabaility issues or something? Never had this problem when this PC was running CentOS but it's only now shown up and Ubuntu is pretty different compared to all other distros =/
[17:00] <zykotick9> DeltaHeavy: comparing Ubuntu to CentOS is very much an Apples and Oranged comparison...
[17:01] <DeltaHeavy> zykotick9: I know, just wanted to demonstrate it's most likly not a hardware issue.
[17:01] <DeltaHeavy> I'm reading some stuff online saying that anything but LTS releases aren't really "for the faint of heart". Guess I might just stick to those now...
[17:02] <zykotick9> DeltaHeavy: you'd be better off - assuming there will be lots of issues with ubuntu...
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is very stable
[17:02] <DeltaHeavy> zykotick9: Thanks, think I will. Having segfaults every couple hours isn't really acceptable for what I want to do
[17:02] <armaan> where can i find my google app engine datastore file in ubuntu ??
[17:03] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: Non LTS releases? I'm reading otherwise after searching around
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> DeltaHeavy:segfaults is not an ubuntu issue
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> Deltaheavy: you better first search what other issues this cause
[17:04] <arcaico> How I find my wifi module? using lspci I not found
[17:04] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: What else could it be? It's happening to all of my programs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80752/ubuntu-stability-problems#answer-96050
[17:04] <zykotick9> arcaico: is it usb?
[17:04] <armaan> where can i find my google app engine datastore file in ubuntu ??
[17:04] <arcaico> zykotick9, no.. netbook (duex)
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> DeltaHeavy: what Os came default on the machine?
[17:05] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: Windows XP
[17:05] <zykotick9> arcaico: and you don't see it with "lspci | grep -i network"
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> Deltaheavy: desktop, netbook, notebook?
[17:05] <arcaico> zykotick9, no =/
[17:06] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: Desktop, ATX formfactor
[17:06] <DeltaHeavy> Intel based
[17:06] <zykotick9> arcaico: don't know then... good luck.
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> DeltaHeavy: got a wifi card on the desktop?
[17:06] <arcaico> zykotick9, thx
[17:06] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: Nope, wired
[17:06] <catcher> What do you guys like best for screen sharing b/n ubuntu & windows?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> brb
[17:07] <DeltaHeavy> lotuspsychje: Chrome and Nautalis will also crash if I change tabs and closing that tab immedietly. segfault
[17:07] <catcher> The simpler the better, just need to demo basic stuff while on the phone with someone on a windows box.
[17:07] <ok_> catcher: teamviewer
[17:08] <ok_> catcher: no install required and no fw issues
[17:09] <c3l> how do I list files similar to `ls -l, but showing permissions in octal? I want the output to be colored like with `ls -l --color=auto'
[17:09] <relik> Hello i get an error message (feature PAE not found for CPU) when trying to install the 12.04 alternate OS for x86 on a fitPC slim with geode CPU. Any idea why?
[17:10] <catcher> ok_, I'll have a look, thank you
[17:12] <relik> is there an ubuntu version for the lx800 geode CPU that does not support PAE?
[17:12] <ok_> catcher: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx its what i as when I'm working with "the uninitiated"
[17:12] <ok_> *i use
[17:14] <catcher> ok_, looks great - a little pricey, but maybe the company will swing it.
[17:14] <superthebobfredm> I was logged into a remote machine via ssh when the internet went down and came back up.  there was a running process in that terminal.  is there any way to regain my view?
[17:15] <superthebobfredm> I know the pts number
[17:16] <superthebobfredm> (pts/0)
[17:16] <codingman> relik: i doubt it
[17:20] <resc_user_3095> does someone know how to install grub as dualboot for windows7 and ubuntu?
[17:20] <zykotick9> c3l: you might want to try "stat -c '%A %a %n' *" and see if you can get what you want
[17:21] <applematt> Hello! I'm having a problem with 10.04 running as a guest on a XenServer 6.0.2 host. I'm curious if anyone would know why 10.04 will randomly shutdown during boot then boot successfully on the second attempt or why it would lock up when shutting down?
[17:22] <applematt> I have linux-virtual kernel package and XenServer tools installed. I thought I might post my question here since the issue appears to be specific to Ubuntu.
[17:24] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[17:24] <applematt> Hello!
[17:24] <ufrgs> I have a netBook AcerOne and when I boot from live cd in order to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it it doesn't recognize the machine hardDrive. Could someone help me to solve it please?
[17:24] <bharath> where I can download  itstool?
[17:25] <DeltaHeavy> I'm getting segfaults either randomly, or when I switch a tab followed by immidietly closing it quickly. Anybody know what could be causing this?
[17:25] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561398] show_signal_msg: 21 callbacks suppressed
[17:25] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561406] filezilla[3762]: segfault at 58 ip 00eedb32 sp bfa666f0 error 4 in libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0.7.0[dbd000+303000]
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 btw
[17:26] <bharath> how can I install itstool?
[17:27] <IdleOne> bharath: sudo apt-get install itstool
[17:28] <rocki34> Question: I'm running Ubuntu in Virtualbox. How do I connect a USB so that it is recognized by the VM and not my actual OS.
[17:28] <bharath> IdleOne: E: Unable to locate package itstool
[17:29] <ufrgs> I have a netBook AcerOne and when I boot from live cd in order to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it it doesn't recognize the machine hardDrive. Could someone help me to solve it please?
[17:29] <zykotick9> bharath: what's the output from "lsb_release -sc"?  try "sudo apt-get update" before the install command
[17:30] <anthology> live cds wont run from boot anymore ubuntu 12 any ideas?
[17:30] <bharath> zykotick9: maverick
[17:30] <zykotick9> !eol | bharath
[17:30] <IdleOne> bharath: maverick is no longer supported
[17:30] <IdleOne> bharath: you will need to upgrade
[17:32] <MrHacks> Is there any reason I cannot use "su" or log in as root?  I'm not some n00b idiot!  I just want to fix this damn http_proxy thing that has prevented me from using apt-get.  And Google and the forums have been of no help because nobody has provided an answer to the question that other people have been having problems with.
[17:32] <anthology> strange also virtual box wont run them either?
[17:32] <zykotick9> !noroot | MrHacks
[17:32] <Pici> MrHacks: you can use sudo -i to get a root shell.
[17:33] <MrHacks> ubottu: Was I offering instruction on how to do that?
[17:33] <genii-around> zykotick9: Maybe should have used !sudo instead ;)
[17:33] <IdleOne> MrHacks: Read the entire factoid, not just the part you think is insulting your intelligence.
[17:33] <ufrgs> In other words, what can I do if the Ubuntu Desktop CD doesn't recognize the machine HDD it just booted?
[17:34] <ufrgs> Any ideas please?
[17:34] <d1gital_> I see that hybserv is no longer available in precise.  Is there an alternative?
[17:35] <Jordan_U> ufrgs: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[17:35] <MrHacks> At any rate, http_proxy is starting to prove that Privoxy is the TSA of proxy softwares. I could export http_proxy="" or env unset http_proxy all I want as root and it still won't change the fact I can't install git for a software project I've been meaning to share.
[17:37] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: root is disabled by default on Ubuntu. It's reccommended you use the sudo command.
[17:37] <DeltaHeavy> eg: sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[17:37] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: You're more likely to get useful support if you describe clearly what you're trying to accomplish, what commands you're running, and the exact output you're seeing.
[17:38] <MrHacks> Used it. Did sudo -i then uset http_proxy. Returned back to my user and I still ge the "Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:8118" crap when I run sudo apt-get install get
[17:38] <MrHacks> s/get/git
[17:39]  * kriskropd giggled
[17:39] <ufrgs> Jordan_U, the list doesn't show the HDD, just the flash drive I am booting from.
[17:39] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: I'd think it's something else. sudo acts as if the commands are being done from your current user just with root privledges
[17:39] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: You're misunderstanding how environment variables work. They are inherited by child processes.
[17:39] <ufrgs> Jordan_U, do you want I past it anyway?
[17:40]  * MrHacks facepalms
[17:40] <Jordan_U> ufrgs: Yes.
[17:40] <troulouliou_dev> hi where are located the config files for system-> preferences->startup-application
[17:40] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: ?
[17:41] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: Try something like this: sudo http_proxy= apt-get install git
[17:42] <usr13__> Brockstedt: Hope you're still here.  Since you have let me know that it is a vm leads me to believe it is a vm setting that needs to be changed.  Check the VM's settings for the network device of the guest.
[17:42] <aleminio> hey guys, If i set a file with chmod 777, if i'm not part of the user group\owner then i still won't be able to write to it?
[17:42] <r0tha> aleminio: no
[17:42] <Jordan_U> aleminio: Incorrect.
[17:42] <r0tha> anyone can do anythign they want w/ it
[17:42] <r0tha> including someone malicious
[17:43] <Brockstedt> usr13__: ok I will check, am on phone with customer, will work on it in a few. Thanks
[17:43] <aleminio> I have a file set as 777, but i am still not able to write to it from a php script
[17:43] <aleminio> says file is not writable
[17:43] <Jordan_U> ufrgs: Is the drive visible in the BIOS/ another OS?
[17:43] <zykotick9> aleminio: is the fine on a fat/ntfs partition?
[17:44] <ufrgs> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/3091946
[17:44] <aleminio> nope, linux server
[17:44] <gentius> test
[17:44] <ufrgs> Jordan_U, yes, Windows XP see it.
[17:44] <MrHacks> It's a problem that has been posted several times before on the ubuntu forums
[17:44] <DeltaHeavy> aleminio: The last '7' stands for 'Others are able to read, write, and execute this file'. Also you may be on GNU/Linux but what filesystem is this file on?
[17:45] <kriskropd> ufrgs, try 'sudo fdisk -l' see if it shows up there
[17:45] <MrHacks> Also, Jordan_U, using sudo http_proxy= apt-get install git does not do anything!
[17:46] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: Then it seems that the environment variable http_proxy is not the problem.
[17:46]  * MrHacks looks up his issue from previous instances.  For some reason it doesn't work for me
[17:46] <ufrgs> kriskropd, no, it doesn't show.
[17:46] <aleminio> when i check it, it says simfs and tmpfs
[17:47] <kriskropd> ufrgs, thats kinda weird, I wonder if something isn
[17:47] <kriskropd> inistializing
[17:47] <kriskropd> i cant spell
[17:47] <kriskropd> initiializing*
[17:47] <MrHacks> exporting http_proxy doesn't change http_proxy for ROOT. Sudo uses ROOT'S environment variables.  unset http_proxy will get rid of http_proxy for my user, but NOT ROOT'S. a sudo env | grep "http_proxy" shows that http_proxy is still set
[17:48] <ufrgs> kriskropd, this machine uses those new SSD drives
[17:49] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: sudo doesn't use enviromental veriables for root as it never logs into root.
[17:49] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: That ois why I had you run "sudo http_proxy= apt-get install git" , that is the proper way to run apt-get as root with the environment variable http_proxy set to an empty string (which is not quite the same as being unset, though should usually have the same result).
[17:50] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: Enviroment variables are properties of the shell. Unless you actually log into another user they won't be changed. I suggest if you want to use root's enviroment variables you look it up. You could activate your root account but that's not reccommended at all under any circumstances.
[17:51] <Jordan_U> DeltaHeavy: sudo does in fact sanatize environment variables, though I agree that's not the same as saying that it uses root's environment.
[17:52] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo http_proxy= apt-get install git".
[17:52] <ufrgs> no?
[17:53] <MrHacks> I just hate how this line of code you are suggesting looks. It works, but it is the most irresponsible line of code developed under the fact that it looks like you are assigning an apt-get to a variable
[17:53] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: How new is your motherboard?
[17:54] <DeltaHeavy> MrHacks: I think you just don't understand enviroment variables. There's nothing wrong with that command.
[17:54]  * MrHacks just saw Arthur Fonzerelli jump the Ubuntu shark
[17:54] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, mmmm, not sure. is there a way to find it other then open the machine?
[17:54] <Jordan_U> MrHacks: It's perfectly clear if you are familiar with *NIX shells. You can ask in #bash if you don't believe me.
[17:54] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: Pastebin the output of 'lshw'
[17:54] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: sudo lshw
[17:55] <MrHacks> fine. thanks anyway.
[17:56] <DeltaHeavy> I'm getting segfaults either randomly, or when I switch a tab followed by immidietly closing it quickly. Anybody know what could be causing this? I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
[17:56] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561398] show_signal_msg: 21 callbacks suppressed
[17:56] <Sa[i]nT> Are they working on fixing the ath9k nohwcrypt problem?
[17:56] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561406] filezilla[3762]: segfault at 58 ip 00eedb32 sp bfa666f0 error 4 in libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0.7.0[dbd000+303000]
[17:58] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, https://gist.github.com/3092035
[18:00] <gentius> clear
[18:00] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: What model is your Aspire One?
[18:00] <gentius> :O
[18:00] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, D250
[18:01] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: Drives are being picked up in other OSs?
[18:02] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, very hard but yes.
[18:04] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: How's it very hard? Is it hard under the OS the laptop came with?
[18:04] <ilmoob> yitz_ !
[18:04] <yitz_> o.o
[18:05] <sqrbrkt> hi all, I'm hoping somebody can help with my messed up MBR. Ubuntu is booting no problem but I can't access Win Vista anymore. When I choose Vista from GRUB the screen resolution switches down and I see another GRUB screen. All the options on this second GRUB screen give the message "error: no such partition". I've tried Boot Repair Disk and Windows repair option but no luck. Any advice on how to proceed?
[18:06] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, kind of, I was trying to install Windows XP Pack 3 and I couldn't find a chipset drive for it besides it always showed a SM Bus driver, even after visiting Acer website.
[18:06] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, I bough it used, perhaps the default OS would be Windows XP Pack 1, it that exists.
[18:07] <kriskropd> I'm no pro, but this is the first time I
[18:07] <kriskropd> 've ever seen that happen
[18:09] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: How was it hard to detect your hardrves under XP?
[18:11] <kriskropd> ufrgs, not finding much resource for a solution, I'm going to toss in a new direction ~ you could get an Ultimate Boot CD and check at a lower level for the drive and maybe reformat it that way to be seen by ubuntu livecd
[18:12] <bieb> have fresh install of 12.04, have the "partners" selected in software.. trying to install centrify to do AD connection.. "can't find centrify, or centrifydc" any ideas?
[18:13] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, first I had to create a bootable flash driver of XP, then after I had to grab all drives from Acer website which is a pain in the ass because it never works. Finally the chipset driver didn't work, and Acer sells at least 4 models of the same machine build of different manufacturers.
[18:13] <ufrgs> kriskropd, this is a netBook machine, doesn't have cd driver.
[18:13] <DeltaHeavy> ufrgs: So without the drivers the hardrive wouldn't work?
[18:14] <Brockstedt> usr13__: new nic, no difference. even tried setting speed and duplex statically, still disallows connections after a few minutes
[18:14] <ufrgs> kriskropd, can I make a bootable flash driver of it?
[18:14] <kriskropd> ufrgs yes you can put it on a USB, CD generally jsut means .iso
[18:14] <ufrgs> DeltaHeavy, it works with XP default, took half hour to open a folder for example.
[18:15] <ufrgs> Where can I find it?
[18:15] <kriskropd> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[18:15] <ufrgs> kriskropd, where can I find it?
[18:15] <Brockstedt> usr13__: guess I will proceed to upgrade to 12 to see if issue is resolved
[18:15] <studio> how can i know what os i installed first (windows or ubuntu)if iam on windows ?
[18:15] <kriskropd> plethora of hdd tools though, I can't pinpoint which you need quite yet
[18:15] <kriskropd> plethora of hdd tools though, I can't pinpoint which you need quite yetufrgs ^
[18:16] <kriskropd> brb, my ssh session is all botched up and making irssi weird
[18:16] <ufrgs> kriskropd, do you mean I should install this tool from live CD and try install the drive its missing?
[18:16] <genii-around> If when the machine booted you saw the grub screen which listed ubuntu, then you installed linux after windows
[18:16] <decci> I have a Dell Hardware on which I have no OS installed. I have a remote Linux machine.I have openwsman available on Linux machine. Can I run openwsman utility for Dell hardware remotely. Do I really need openwsman on System Under Test too
[18:17] <studio> gennI-around:yeah i can see that but if i delete the ext4 partition from windows manager then can i boot to windows?
[18:17] <genii-around> studio: If when the machine booted you saw the grub screen which listed ubuntu, then you installed linux after windows. Because if you install windows after ubuntu, it puts the bootloader to it's own and it only just boots into windows and nothing else again
[18:17] <guestguast> Hello, is it normal that in 12.04 32 bit Unity 3D I can't find the icon on the tray of Rhythmbox? I can handle it by the volume icon but if I close the main window I can't reopen it, neighter clicking on the "Rhythmbox icon in the volume menu. I have to manually reopen it...even if it's still running in the background...I have a fresh installed OS.
[18:17] <lloir> hey guys i have two monitors setup and i can only get them to mirror, need them seperate here's the error's i get http://pastebin.com/WgGi7XJd
[18:18] <lloir> graphics card is x1650
[18:18] <Odra> Hello
[18:18] <genii-around> studio: The mbr/boot doesn't usually care about what is on individual partitions as far as the boot process itself goes ( unless one of the boot options now points to some OS that is wiped, then it just won't load that )
[18:18] <ufrgs> kriskropd, couldn't understand what you meant.
[18:19] <genii-around> studio: Are you going to keep dual-boot?
[18:19] <bieb> have fresh install of 12.04, have the "partners" selected in software.. trying to install centrify to do AD connection.. "can't find centrify, or centrifydc" any ideas?
[18:20] <studio> genni-around : no
[18:20] <kriskropd> ufrgs, I'm not sure which exact tool on UBCD will work with SSD (I don't have one to experiment with)
[18:21] <genii-around> studio: So then just boot up to your Windows recovery mode and use the fixmbr stuff
[18:21] <studio> genni-around: i have 2 pc so..
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> bieb  where did you get the name centrify?
[18:21] <studio> genni-around:how can i boot to windows recovery mode?
[18:22] <bieb> MonkeyDust: http://www.centrify.com/blogs/tomkemp/join_ubuntu_to_active_directory_domain.asp
[18:22] <samzhao_> guys, what's the major difference between ubuntu and centOS?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> bieb  ok, it's not in the repos, you have to download it from the site, i guess
[18:23] <_pg_> Can anyone help me im very close to getting a poptop VPN server working. Anyone done this successfully?
[18:23] <auronandace> samzhao_: centos = rpm based, ubuntu = apt
[18:23] <genii-around> studio: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/03/10/restore-the-windows-bootloader-to-mbr-after-dual-booting-with-linux/   has some pointers on how to do this kind of stuff, there are a few ways
[18:23] <bieb> MonkeyDust: it's weird, because it was in the partner archives for 10.04 and 11.04
[18:24] <Odra> Hello, does anybody knows a player that supports matroska ordered chapters?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> bieb  yeah, if so, than it must have been removed, no idea why
[18:24] <DeltaHeavy> samzhao: Ubuntu is aimed at beginners, and has a focus on Desktop users. CentOS is just a general purpose Linux that's well-rounded but doesn't have a lot of the safty's set up that Ubuntu has
[18:24] <bieb> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:24] <DeltaHeavy> auronandace: I wouldn't call that "the main difference" at all. That's just package managment.
[18:25] <Jordan_U> Odra: I don't know about ordered chapters specifically but vlc and mplayer both have good matroska support. Have you tried them yet?
[18:25] <auronandace> DeltaHeavy: software management is a pretty big difference
[18:26] <kyle__> samzhao_: CentOS is a very traiditional linux/unix, runlevels, init, etc.  Ubuntu generally has newer packages, eschews the idea of traiditonal runlevels, etc.
[18:26] <genii-around> studio: Also see http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx?mfr=true  for info about recovery console and http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx?mfr=true
[18:26] <Odra> Jordan_U: MPlayer? Yes I'm running it. But it doesnt seem to link the ordered chapters.
[18:26] <DeltaHeavy> auronandace: It's not software managment. It's package managment.
[18:27] <samzhao_> DeltaHeavy: what does "doesn't have a lot of the safty's set up that Ubuntu has" mean?
[18:27] <DeltaHeavy> samzhao: One example would be the root account is disabled in Ubuntu by default.
[18:28] <harry_> k
[18:28] <studio> genni-around:fixed with bootrec
[18:28] <lloir> hey guys i have two monitors setup and i can only get them to mirror, need them seperate here's the error's i get http://pastebin.com/WgGi7XJd it's an x1650 graphics card
[18:29] <Jordan_U> Odra: I would try VLC. I don't know how likely it is to work, but it's worth a try.
[18:29] <samzhao_> DeltaHeavy: I suppose that just gives a beginner the safety net in case he/she screws up the system
[18:29] <harry_> why are flahs videos killing my cpu
[18:29] <i7c> harry_: becuase flash sucks :)
[18:29] <bwat47> because the linux version of flash has no hardware acceleration (or poor hardware accel if you have nvidia_
[18:30] <harry_> yes it does
[18:30] <kurtwp_> tarmac!2me
[18:30] <DeltaHeavy> samzhao_: You can still screw up the system without root access. It's more of a security thing. I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu for servers but it's ok for Desktops for beginners IMO
[18:30] <kyle__> bwat47: I don't think that's true.  I thought they added it awhile ago (maybe even a year)
[18:30] <bwat47> I said it does if you have nvidia
[18:30] <bwat47> and it doesnt work well
[18:30] <bwat47> it doesnt if you have any other card
[18:30] <DeltaHeavy> bwat47: Google Chrome's fixed that
[18:30] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: It's a fantastic laptop linux, that's for sure.
[18:31] <bwat47> yeah I'm using chrome's ppapi flash now, apparently it now has some sort of composited rendering, but still no decoding acceleration
[18:31] <studio> genni-aroun
[18:31] <_pg_> Can someone help me get a poptop server configured on ubuntu? Im dangerously close to success
[18:32] <samzhao_> DeltaHeavy: so I should probably choose CentOS for a server
[18:32] <OerHeks> bwat47,   linux version of flash does have hardware acceleration for nvidia
[18:32] <studio> genni-arund: thanks
[18:32] <bwat47> yeah I've said that twice now, I'm saying if you have ati/intel it doesn't which is a lot of users
[18:32] <DeltaHeavy> I'm having applications crash (segfault) at random times. It also happens in Nautalis and Chrome when I close a tab quickly prior to switching to that tab. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10. Anybody know what the issue might be?
[18:32] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561398] show_signal_msg: 21 callbacks suppressed
[18:32] <DeltaHeavy> [18335.561406] filezilla[3762]: segfault at 58 ip 00eedb32 sp bfa666f0 error 4 in libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0.7.0[dbd000+303000]
[18:32] <DeltaHeavy> samzhao_: Definitly IMO
[18:33] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Have you run memtest86?
[18:33] <OerHeks> bwat47, ati too.
[18:33] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Never a happy thought: bad RAM.  But it sure is easy to replace if that's the issue.
[18:33] <samzhao_> DeltaHeavy: great, thanks!
[18:34] <DeltaHeavy> kyle__: Will do now
[18:34] <bwat47> flash only supports vdpau for decoding acceleration, ati does not support that
[18:34] <in^> is it possible to run multiple vnc sessions and with in those multiple virtualbox sessions running Windows 7?
[18:35] <_pg_> Can someone help me get poptop VPN server set up?
[18:35] <DeltaHeavy> samzhao_: np
[18:37] <kriskropd> in^ yes, the vnc shouldn't affect the virtualbox vms
[18:37] <melkor> So, my printer worked fine yesterday and today I cannot print. I'm not even sure what I can debug.
[18:37] <jrdnn> melkor: Make sure it has paper and ink?
[18:37] <[snake]> is there a type of server that can turn computers on or off- on your local network?
[18:38] <melkor> jrdnn: both
[18:38] <kriskropd> in^ though if you are trying to get individual vms in their own respective vnc connections, you may need to install vnc on each vm or used virtualbox's builtin VRDP
[18:38] <genii-around> melkor: There were some updates to CUPS today... did you do updates and not reboot yet?
[18:38] <alejandro> ~
[18:38] <DeltaHeavy> kyle__: Memory appears fine
[18:38] <melkor> genii-around: maybe I suppose I could try a reboot. do you think logging out is sufficient?
[18:39] <genii-around> melkor: No, because the cups daemon runs before that
[18:39] <kriskropd> [snake], i think nagios can kinda do that if you configure it right, otherwise I'm not sure
[18:39] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Humm.  Damn.  And the logs aren't telling you much?
[18:39] <melkor> thanks Ill give it a shot.
[18:40] <[snake]> eh, I need one that doesn't come with a thousand other useless features :P
[18:40] <[snake]> kriskropd,
[18:40] <DeltaHeavy> kyle__: Only that there's been a segfault
[18:40] <in^> @kriskropd so here is the scenario...
[18:40] <kyle__> in^: I've run multiple vbox sessions headelss, and connected to each of them using the VNC front-end (available in the OSS version of virtualbox).  Worked fine.
[18:41] <in^> would like to have remote users logon to Ubunu using VNC...
[18:41] <kriskropd> [snake], you could setup some sort of signal packet service on each machine to tell them to shutdown and just use network-boot magic packets to turn them on
[18:41] <decci> in^: You can
[18:41] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Ohh.  So the system locked up...somereason I was thinking it was continuning to run.  If you have a another *nix box around, you can open up it's syslog to accept remote logging, and point your ubuntu's syslog to it.  Then you'll get the logs even when it crahses
[18:41] <decci> in^: vncserver is the commnad
[18:41] <in^> once in run virtualbox with a Windows 7 session
[18:41] <[snake]> kriskropd, ooh... ok let me do some googling.
[18:41] <decci> in^: ?
[18:41] <Linux-user> hi
[18:42] <in^> once they have VNC'd in, open a virtualbox Win 7 session
[18:42] <decci> Linux-user: Hi
[18:42] <Linux-user> and bye ;(
[18:42] <decci> in^: You can
[18:42] <decci> in^: Configure your vncserver
[18:42] <in^> great
[18:43] <in^> what how much ram should I be looking at for 5 concurrent users?
[18:43] <babalu> which packages should i install to be able to run java programs (jar) properly?
[18:43] <DeltaHeavy> kyle__: The system doesn't lock up. The process is just hitting a segault
[18:43] <[snake]> kriskropd, thanks. I found a page about network booting on wikipedia, I didn't even think of wording it like that... :p
[18:43] <kyle__> babalu: default-jre
[18:43] <kriskropd> in^ thats relative to the workload of the vms
[18:43] <in^> mainly quickbooks
[18:44] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Ok.  But are there messages in /var/log/syslog related to it?  Anything at all pointing to a culprit?
[18:44] <kriskropd> [snake] I only wish i knew of an easier way, but I hope that works for you :)
[18:44] <lelouch> i neeeed backup plz i instaled ubuntu but can't detect my Craphic card "no nvidia"
[18:44] <kyle__> DeltaHeavy: Because if there aren't, A) the software is trying to access memory it shouldn't, B) the binary or a config file has been corrupted, or C) it's swapping and there are bad blocks on your swap partition.
[18:45] <lelouch> i neeeed backup plz i instaled ubuntu but can't detect my Graphic card "no nvidia" and it works fin verry well
[18:45] <kriskropd> in^, its not just that, are you going to be running a full blown win7 OS with aero graphics and all the services? or are you going to use light weight, stripped versions of win 7
[18:46] <in^> stripped down
[18:46] <in^> nothing fancy
[18:46] <DeltaHeavy> kyle__: I'm not even using 50% of my RAM so I doubt it's the swap, and it happens to all programs, not just one. That's why I was thinking it might be an Ubuntu bug
[18:46] <babalu> kyle__: i installed default-jre, but i'm still getting this error when trying to run the program: http://pastebin.com/32aQ0SXR
[18:46] <genii-around> [snake]: I think you can just probably use something like http://cameacross.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/how-to-set-up-wake-on-lan-on-ubuntu-home-server/   where you then have the "wakeonlan <MAC-of-what-box-to-wakeup>" execute on a central machine for whichever ones you want, maybe on a cronjob or however it suits
[18:46] <kriskropd> in^ well of the top of my head, I wouldn't know, you may need to benchmark and find out for yourself just how much memory each machine will individually need at any given time
[18:47] <kriskropd> off*
[18:47] <in^> thanks @kriskropd
[18:47] <endor> Hi people
[18:48] <kriskropd> genii-around, wake-on-lan is only for starting the machines up iirc, [snake] will still need a method to shut them down easily
[18:48] <in^> thanks @decci, @kyle_
[18:49] <klingelbart> with linux shell i can choose all my java-files with *.java. but how do i chose alle java-files except one java-file? i want to compile 19 of my 20 java files
[18:49] <centooos> i need a application like adobe flash profesional. i want to make swf files. . what should i use at ubuntu software center?
[18:52] <genii-around> kriskropd: You can then do something like ssh keylogin from same box to automatically run a nice shutdown, etc
[18:52] <melkor> genii-around: Thanks I restarted cups via service and it printed.
[18:52] <melkor> All of my options are messed up.
[18:52] <genii-around> melkor: Ah, good, no total reboot needed then
[18:53] <semper_paratus> hello, new to linux here. learning curve not so great so far. nothing but pebcac.
[18:53] <klingelbart> *.java choses all my java files. how can i exclude one? i want to chose 19 of my 20 java files
[18:53] <lloir> hey guys i have two monitors setup and i can only get them to mirror, need them seperate here's the error's i get http://pastebin.com/WgGi7XJd it's an x1650 graphics card and im using 12.04
[18:54] <semper_paratus> trying to install a driver for a lexmark printer. i have it saved to downloads in firefox browser. also trying to learn setups in pidgin as i am total newb.
[18:56] <usr13__> lloir: You should see in the display preferences options for the outputs
[18:56] <lloir> they can both go 1280x1024 usr13__
[18:57] <klingelbart> *.java choses all my java files. how can i exclude one?
[18:57] <usr13__> lloir: If one can the both can, but it depends on what the monitor will accept.
[18:58] <atoi> is there a command to see what runlevels a SysV service is slated to run in?
[18:58] <lloir> usr13__: i know they both work perfectly fine when not mirrored
[18:58] <atoi> Red Hat had a way to do that.
[18:58] <lloir> used to work on windows fine
[18:58] <atoi> I know you can look in all the directories...
[18:58] <semper_paratus> can anyone read this ?
[18:58] <bwat47> yes
[18:58] <lloir> yes
[18:59] <semper_paratus> ok...just making sure...i have no idea what is going on.never used linux.trying to install driver for printer whilst learning pidgin for first time.
[19:00] <willubuntu> Hello guys. Despite my name I'm running Arch Linux. I would like to know if anyone of you (running Ubuntu) could test if pingtest.net is working on your computer. On Arch Linux we are experiencing such a problem with packet lost calculation.
[19:00] <bwat47> are you using chrome?
[19:00] <bwat47> for me in arch it didnt work in chrome but worked fine in firefpx
[19:00] <bwat47> *firefox
[19:01] <willubuntu> bwat47: Firefox and Chromium don't work neither
[19:01] <semper_paratus> how can i run a driver which is saved in firefox downloads ? this driver will supposedly make my printer work. or give me a headache...success in 1 department is filled.
[19:02] <semper_paratus> i am using ubuntu11.10
[19:02] <atoi> init scripts are so annoying. :(
[19:02] <bwat47> semper_paratus: what file format did the download come in?
[19:02] <semper_paratus> hold on ill check.
[19:03] <semper_paratus> it is a .zip extension.
[19:03] <bwat47> if you extract it what do you get?
[19:03] <bwat47> a .ppd?
[19:03] <semper_paratus> how do i extract ?
[19:03] <bwat47> if its a .zip just right click and extract...
[19:03] <rizzy> how can i see all network traffic coming and going on my machine? my network admin said dropbox is taking up  90% of the resouces and I don't buy it.
[19:04] <willubuntu> bwat47: You said it's working: can you pass all the tests? What's your configuration? Are you using icedtea-web-java7?
[19:04] <willubuntu> bwat47: And what's happening with netstat -anopuwt when you are doing the test
[19:04] <bwat47> I don't currently have java installed in ubuntu, but when I had it working I was using oracle java 7 (not icedtea) and firefox
[19:05] <trey> atoi: Ubuntu uses upstart, you can check the run levels a service will "start on" by checking /etc/init/*
[19:05] <willubuntu> bwat47: Ok we got the conclusion --> OpenJDK is responsible of that, that's a lot
[19:05] <atoi> trey, except half the packages I install, including this one, use SysV init scripts. :P
[19:06] <semper_paratus> when i try to extract to desktop i get this error.   unzip:  cannot find or open /tmp/lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip, /tmp/lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip.zip or /tmp/lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip.ZIP.
[19:07] <Haugli92> Witch is the best webserver for linux ? Is it still apache ?
[19:07] <jrdnn> Haugli92: lighttpd
[19:07] <atoi> sysv-rc-conf! THAT'S the program I'm looking for.
[19:07] <bwat47> semper_paratus: when you downloaded it in your browser did you choose "run" instead of sace? it sounds like the file is located in /tmp for some reason, try saving it to your home dir
[19:07] <dezertir> доброго всем времени суток
[19:07] <atoi> Haugli92, nginx. :)
[19:07] <trey> atoi: Try sysv-rc-conf
[19:07] <bwat47> *instead of save
[19:07] <nkibler7> Can anyone help me solve the purple screen of death?
[19:07] <atoi> trey, yeah, just found it. :)
[19:07] <trey> atoi: You got it :-)
[19:09] <Haugli92> nginx, hmmm.. Just tried out Cherokee, seem to be great :S
[19:09] <nkibler7> Anyone? I'm very new to ubuntu and after using the Windows installer and trying to boot, I come across an impassable purple screen of death.
[19:10] <nkibler7> I think it has to do with my new graphics card.
[19:10] <atoi> Haugli92, honestly, almost anything is better than Apache but it depends entirely on what you actually want to do.
[19:10] <atoi> Haugli92, what are you trying to run?
[19:11] <Haugli92> atoi: Nothing special really. PHP... mostly..
[19:11] <semper_paratus> i chose save, but i had tried to run it earlier i think....it does appear to not find it due to it being tmp file in mozilla. i tried extracting to desktop and my user folder...to no avail.
[19:11] <atoi> Haugli92, why are you trying to stop using apache?
[19:12] <bwat47> i'd try downloading it again and make sure to save it to your home folder, then extract it normally
[19:12] <kyle__> atoi: Out of curiosity, why would you say almost anything is better than apache?  I've used various open and closed source webservers, but have never found apache to be particularly lacking.
[19:12] <atoi> kyle__, performance wise it sucks, comparatively.
[19:12] <atoi> nginx can serve files many times over as fast as apache can.
[19:12] <atoi> for example.
[19:12] <atoi> almost everything is faster than Apache.
[19:12] <atoi> Apache is like the Eclipse of web servers.
[19:13] <kyle__> atoi: I've never seen it suck, performance wise.  May need tweaking to preform (the default settings are pretty non-optimal).
[19:13] <atoi> kyle__, sounds like it's meeting your needs, then.
[19:14] <kyle__> atoi: Admittedly my needs usually range from something with a low impact on the server (thttpd), to a handfull of vhosts or a small php site (apache), but I've rarely seen it be the bottleneck.
[19:14] <atoi> Haugli92, I ask because PHP is a special case: if you're not running mod_php in apache, you need another solution like fastcgi or php5fpm. Unfortunately, php5fpm sucks horribly, from my experience, so you're almost better proxying a fast web server in front of apache and letting apache serve PHP. However, if you're not serving super high traffic static, what's the point?
[19:15] <kyle__> atoi: What sort of stuff are you running off of nginx?
[19:15] <K1rk> Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57760 interface on numerous machines, having the same issue.  After awhile of being connected, the connection just fails.  It disappears from network manager, and the only way to fix it seems to be rebooting the machine.  See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021681
[19:17] <atoi> kyle__, I run a site which gets millions of unique visitors a day. We serve a Python app powered by gunicorn. MOST of our static stuff is served by CDN, so you don't get much speed up anymore from nginx vs. apache, but the difference is nginx is asynchronous and apache is not which makes it much faster in some (many) circumstances, particularly because Apache is not very light weight. Cherokee is non-asynchronous, but performs better than apac
[19:17] <atoi> he.
[19:18] <atoi> But... if apache works for you.. fantastic.
[19:18] <atoi> Millions of people use apache, still.
[19:18] <dknight> hey, I have a dual boot and the windows partitions are mounted at boot time. They are mounted at /mnt/windows/* directories. However, they are not shown in the left panel of the nautilus. How do I get them to show up there?
[19:19] <kyle__> atoi: Neat.  Makes sense.  I use it generally because I'm familiar with it's configuration, and my sites have never reached a hundreth of the loads your talking about :) so the speed was never an issue
[19:19] <kyle__> maybe thouthsanth...
[19:19] <eroot> I want the IRC command to get information on a user. I want to know how much does IRC know about me.
[19:20] <jrdnn> eroot: /whois name
[19:20] <LjL> eroot: best to ask in #freenode, this channel is specifically about Ubuntu support
[19:20] <eroot> jrdnn, thank you!
[19:20] <jrdnn> eroot: You're welcome
[19:21] <eroot> Oh cool, I'm connected using IPv6. :-)
[19:21] <schultza> how do i get NetworkManager working again?
[19:21] <atoi> kyle__, familiarity with configs is a huge reason to stick with a web server until you have to change for whatever reason. Personally I find nginx's config excellent, particularly coming from Apache, but that's no real reason to switch web servers.
[19:22] <atoi> anyhow, good luck Haugli92, I guess you got your answer.
[19:22] <MikeA> Hello all - anyone know how why a Canon MP280, that I set up from a linux driver download (seemed to be a script that has run in terminal that set the printer up) does not work when sending a test page?
[19:22] <kyle__> atoi: Yea, especially since right now I'm only serving an external blog, two static sites, and an internal wiki.
[19:22]  * atoi nods.
[19:23] <semper_paratus> ok, i managed to move the download to my home folder. I extracted and ran the file in terminal. now it is saying i need root access to complete setup, but is NOT accepting my system password. is it possible i changed the system password by accident ?
[19:24] <jlkkljh> is there a i386 v of ubuntu 12 available
[19:25] <jlkkljh> is there a i386 v of ubuntu 12.04 available
[19:25] <kyle__> jlkkljh: Yes.  By i386 you mean 32-bit x86 system right?
[19:25] <jlkkljh> yes
[19:26] <kyle__> jlkkljh: I think it's even the deafult download
[19:26] <xangua> jlkkljh: ubuntu.com
[19:26] <jlkkljh> ok thx
[19:26] <kyle__> MikeA: Where did you get a linux driver for it?  I don't see a driver on canon's page, nor any published printing languages.
[19:27] <liminal> hi
[19:27] <MikeA> I got it from canons website - I got 4 packages. two for 64 bit and two for 32 bit.  installed the two 32 bits using the software centre
[19:27] <jrdnn> liminal: Hello
[19:28] <MikeA> got it here
[19:28] <semper_paratus> where can i find my system password ?
[19:28] <MikeA> http://software.canon-europe.com/
[19:28] <kyle__> MikeA: Did it tell you what it was doing: loading a binary, kernel module, plain cups driver?
[19:28] <hsoft> Is this the right channel to ask about PPAs? Is it normal that several hours after uploading a package to my PPA, it hasn't started building yet? Is there any way I can know my "Build Score" before the build farm started building it?
[19:28] <kyle__> MikeA: Ahh I forgot: canon only gives out linux drivers for europe.  Damn canon.
[19:28] <MikeA> it said it was installing the "IJ Printer Driver for Linux"
[19:28] <MikeA> which made reference to CUPS
[19:29] <marco> update-manager in my vm with 12.10 is broken: http://pastebin.com/vG5jJew0. How can I fix it?
[19:29] <trism> hsoft: yes it is normal, there is a link on your ppa page which will take you to your build queue
[19:29] <trism> hsoft: (assuming you checked your email and the upload was accepted)
[19:29] <liminal> can anyone help me.. I am using Oneiric and want to upgrade to precise
[19:29] <MikeA> If I go to System>Administration>Printing the printer appears there now though when I send a test page it just says "processing" in the jobs list
[19:29] <hsoft> trism: that's the problem, I never go any email
[19:29] <liminal> but upgrade manager doesnt show me any upgrade being available?
[19:30] <hsoft> trism: and there's no such link on my page. But dput said the upload went alright
[19:30] <xangua> marco: 12.10 is not supported here
[19:30] <schultza> im having problems restarting network manager after setting up a bridge... i want to go back to using network manager
[19:30] <trism> hsoft: yeah it doesn't really matter what dput says, launchpad emails you back in 5-30 minutes or so saying whether the upload was accepted or rejected
[19:30] <marco> xangua: is there a channel where I can get help?
[19:30] <kyle__> MikeA: Did you reboot after installing?  Could be needed, not sure.  Holdon grabbing it to see what it's about.
[19:30] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | marco
[19:30] <Brockstedt> usr13__: upgrade did not fix it as well. However, was sitting here watching it via vcenter console and noticed after 5 min the screen turns off. Had to click and ctrl alt to get the screen back. This makes me think it is hibernating or something. Where can I check this?
[19:30] <bwat47> liminal: do-release-upgrade in terminal should do it
[19:31] <MikeA> ok il restart in the meantime.....
[19:31] <marco> xangua: thanks@
[19:31] <aleminio> When the server has a few ip numbers, is there such a thing as setting the default ip for the server? i'm trying to understand why i am able to read a file when i access from one ip of the server but can't with another
[19:31] <hsoft> trism: It's been several hours and I got nothing. Do you have an idea how I can troubleshoot the problem?
[19:32] <trism> hsoft: did you upload your gpg keys to your launchpad page?
[19:33] <hsoft> trism: Oh, I had to do that? My packages were signed, I thought it was enough. I'll try that.
[19:34] <trism> hsoft: also did you sign the coc? you generally need to do that before creating a ppa (I thought) but I didn't notice it on your page (if your launchpad name matches your irc nick)
[19:35] <kyle__> MikeA: Does it work now?
[19:35] <hsoft> trism: No I didn't. I'll try to do all that, thanks
[19:35] <S0ME1> hello
[19:35] <jrdnn> S0ME1: Hi
[19:36] <S0ME1> I facing issue wit PXE installation
[19:36] <eph3meral> is there a way to install XFCE properly on Ubuntu without fully "switching" over to "xubuntu"
[19:36] <jrdnn> eph3meral: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and you can choose which in the DM
[19:37] <S0ME1> once the machine install all packages, gave me error, cannot find the right kernel
[19:37] <eph3meral> k
[19:37] <S0ME1> once I did manual install via CD
[19:37] <S0ME1> it is working well
[19:37] <S0ME1> any advice ?
[19:38] <kyle__> S0ME1: are you doing a normal installation just PXE booting, or is there a kickstart/pressed involved?
[19:39] <kyle__> MikeA: I dug through it, it's a pretty streightforward driver: it installed a ppd file for cups to use, and a binary filter that converts postscript input into canon's proprietary format.  It's all not bad honestly.
[19:39] <S0ME1> using pressed files
[19:39] <kyle__> S0ME1: What happens if you use the minimal-server preseed file?
[19:40] <S0ME1> the message "The installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install"
[19:40] <S0ME1> kyle__: I just add my local mirror and same issue
[19:41] <imachine_> hello
[19:41] <kyle__> S0ME1: Is that with your custom pressed, or one of the ones supplied with ubuntu?
[19:41] <S0ME1> the local mirror is ubuntu CD mounted and copied under /ubuntu on the web server
[19:41] <imachine_> I have no sound card device in my sound settings for recording ;(
[19:41] <imachine_> but alsamixer shows all devices proper
[19:41] <imachine_> also, during audio test, only left channel plays.
[19:41] <ffelix> Is it possible to use both core i5's integrated graphics (mboard hdmi output) and the pci graphic cards output?
[19:41] <kyle__> S0ME1: chmod -R 0777 <wherever>/ubuntu, right?
[19:41] <imachine_> how can I fix this? latest ubuntu version.
[19:41] <imachine_> I'm hinting at an issue with pulseaudio
[19:41] <S0ME1> the pressed file supplied with ubuntu, I just added my mirro information
[19:42] <S0ME1> kyle__: dr-xr-xr-x
[19:43] <kyle__> S0ME1: OK that'll do.  Strange.   kickstart file?
[19:43] <kyle__> No errors about not being able to read a package?
[19:44] <S0ME1> kyle__: no kickstart file
[19:44] <S0ME1> I used presses
[19:44] <S0ME1> kyle__: preseed.seed which is the min
[19:45] <imachine_> any ideas?
[19:45] <imachine_> this seems bothersome :-)
[19:45] <semper_paratus> ok....trying to install this printer driver still.....i managed to get it unzipped in home folder....i ran file in terminal...got GUI for printer setup....began setting up....now it asks for admin password....it says password is wrong....i am using the password i log into system with...not accepting password. PEBCAC
[19:45] <S0ME1> kyle__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086754/
[19:46] <imachine_> I can't use skype or google audio chat.
[19:50] <kyle__> S0ME1: Hum.  Dunno.  Check in #ubuntu-server.  They may know better
[19:53] <hsoft> trism: It worked, thanks for your help. (my package was rejected, but at least I got an email :) )
[19:54] <semper_paratus> why would my user password not give me root access...??? it is the right password unles i accidentally changed it when editing pidgin irc client ??? god i suck at this. i know this is a simple task.
[19:55] <trism> hsoft: excellent, you're welcome
[19:55] <trism> hsoft: well, not the rejected part, but I'm sure you'll work it out
[19:56] <scientes> how do i restart udev?
[19:56] <andre22> ola. podem-me ajudar a resolver um problema no ubuntu 12.04
[19:56] <Guest56961> ciao
[19:56] <scientes> !es
[19:57] <xangua> !pt | andre22 scientes ;)
[19:57] <Guest56961> !list
[19:57] <andre22> ok
[19:57] <scientes> xangua, ah, my bad
[19:59] <ufrgs> What is an application to see processes list on Ubuntu?
[20:00] <Costeelation> in command line
[20:00] <Costeelation> type ps -aux
[20:00] <Costeelation> is most easy :)
[20:01] <ufrgs> and how about a application with GUI?
[20:01] <jlkkljh> i just tried to boot ubuntu and on my windows and it 1st said initalizing link and then it said no boot filename recieved
[20:02] <andre22>  no canal #ubuntu-pt, nao está lá ninguem que me responda...
[20:02] <jlkkljh> i just tried to boot ubuntu and on my windows and it 1st said initalizing link and then it said no boot filename recieved
[20:03] <Costeelation> try with ultimate boot cd
[20:03] <Costeelation> burn in to usb
[20:03] <Costeelation> and run
[20:03] <jlkkljh> whats the site for it
[20:03] <Costeelation> waitme
[20:05] <Costeelation> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[20:05] <jlkkljh> brb
[20:05] <Costeelation> :)
[20:05] <Costeelation> you had install ubuntu with windows host?
[20:06] <Costeelation> o in separated partitions
[20:07] <andre22> eu ja fui ao canal pt, mas ninguem me responde...
[20:07] <Costeelation> try speak english
[20:07] <Costeelation> and ask here
[20:07] <Costeelation> use translate.google.com
[20:07] <ufrgs> Firefox is burning my processors!!!
[20:08] <Costeelation> :O
[20:08] <andre22> can you help me with ubuntu 12.04
[20:08] <jlkkljh> is there a windows version
[20:08] <Costeelation> you have many add-ons?
[20:08] <ufrgs> no
[20:08] <andre22> just updates
[20:08] <Costeelation> ufrgs you have the last version?
[20:08] <Costeelation> 13.0.1
[20:08] <ufrgs> yep
[20:09] <Costeelation> omg
[20:09] <Costeelation> is so rally
[20:09] <ufrgs> andre22, just ask!!!
[20:09] <Costeelation> y then firefox crash
[20:09] <jlkkljh> can i get a ultimate boot cd for windows
[20:10] <andre22> when i install java, i can't put the password....
[20:10] <andre22> in cmd
[20:10] <Costeelation> jlkkljh; yes
[20:11] <BluesKaj> !pt > andre22
[20:12] <andre22> ufrgs - i can't write my password in cmd line
[20:12] <ufrgs> Costeelation, maybe its some of the sites I visit, because it happens at all systems I use. Is there a way to check for each tab process what is it using of machine sources?
[20:13] <ufrgs> andre22, why not?
[20:14] <nordligulv> maybe it's flash in firefox?
[20:14] <andre22> i don't know. i want install java but i can't without password
[20:15] <sleax> excuse-me for first!
[20:15] <sleax> i re-ask my question
[20:15] <sleax> hi to all! Using openssh, if i set a public key authentication in a way that one client should connect with two different servers. So the servers should have in the "~/.ssh/authorized_keys" file the public key of the client and the client should have the private.
[20:15] <sleax> Then, if i use the same key for both servers, it works! if i use different keys for each server on client-side it reads only ~/.ssh/id_rsa key with can contains only one private key and then i can be able to connect only with a server, not both! You have any suggestions?
[20:15] <jlkkljh> i need help  please i cant find a link for download
[20:15] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh what are you trying to download?
[20:15] <trism> sleax: use ~/.ssh/config
[20:16] <jlkkljh> the ultimate boot cd ubuntu
[20:16] <schultza> can i still use x through a ssh tunnel on precise?
[20:16] <sleax> trism: i don't have this file
[20:16] <bwat47> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[20:17] <TheAlliedFleet> There you go
[20:17] <bwat47> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ultimate+bood+cd
[20:17] <bwat47> :)
[20:17] <TheAlliedFleet> Thanks bwat
[20:17] <TheAlliedFleet> ಠ_ರೃ
[20:17] <trism> sleax: this is what my github section looks like, you can add as many as you want to the file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1086800/
[20:17] <bwat47> lol
[20:18] <bwat47> well at least google autocorrents
[20:18] <bwat47> god I can't type today
[20:19] <sleax> trism: i don't understand, can you explain me better, please?
[20:19] <sleax> trism: i have to edit config file on client or server?
[20:19] <trism> sleax: client
[20:20] <Calinou> schultza, no?
[20:20] <sleax> trism: in /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[20:20] <trism> sleax: no ~/.ssh/config (create it if it isn't there)
[20:20] <TheAlliedFleet> Does anyone know how I can get conky to start on bootup? I have placed the correct script in the startup applications with a 20 second delay but I can't seem to get conky autostarting
[20:21] <bwat47> did you make the script executable
[20:21] <sleax> trism: there's any tutorial that explain the option for this file?
[20:21] <Costeelation> ufrgs: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download/ubcd511.iso.torrent
[20:22] <TheAlliedFleet> Ahh That would be it, thanks bwat!
[20:22] <bwat47> np :)
[20:22] <TheAlliedFleet> Should work now it's executable
[20:22] <Costeelation> ufrgs: still you need ubcd?
[20:22] <TorbenBeta> Why does Gedit save a  test~.txt for every test.txt I save? Where test can be anything
[20:22] <trism> sleax: random googled site: http://nerderati.com/2011/03/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/ (man ssh_config will detail all the possible options)
[20:22] <sleax> trism: thanks
[20:22] <bwat47> TorbenBeta: afiak its a backup file
[20:23] <Gavin__> hahaha got the old skool ubuntu gnome classic goin :D
[20:23] <Dayofswords> TorbenBeta: gedit creates a backup, you can turn that off in it's settings
[20:23] <andre22> how to install java in ubuntu 12.04
[20:23] <ufrgs> Costeelation, cool, how do I boot with it from flash driver?
[20:23] <Costeelation> ufrgs: yes sure
[20:23] <bwat47> andre22: you can install openjdk and icedtea from the ubuntu repos
[20:23] <kyle__> gnome classic == oldschool?
[20:23] <TheAlliedFleet> andre22: Do you need sun (oracle) java? if not you can use openjdk
[20:23] <ufrgs> Costeelation, but how?
[20:23] <Costeelation> jajaj
[20:24] <bwat47> andre22: and if you need to use the oracle jre for whatever reason you can install it with a ppa http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:24] <Costeelation> ufgrs: waitme im check
[20:24] <kyle__> WtF?  fvwm2, twm.  mwm.  Those are oldschool.
[20:24] <andre22> any tutorial?
[20:24] <bwat47> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:24] <mizifih> Hi there! I need some help... I was wondering if I can setup a domain on my network using Ubuntu Desktop x86, if there is a uptodate tutorial explaining that
[20:24] <TheAlliedFleet> Plenty
[20:25] <jlkkljh> thealliedfleet: what i am trying to do is i am trying to boot ubuntu from usb i have used the universal usb installer and i tried to boot and it said at 1st no boot filename recieved and so i came here and idk what to do
[20:25] <mizifih> All I could find was old tutorials
[20:25] <OerHeks> !java
[20:25] <kyle__> andre22: If you just install the oracle packages, no ppa, I can /msg you a for each loop to set it up.
[20:25] <TorbenBeta> bwat47 and Dayofswords is this advisable?
[20:25] <bwat47> generally you should just use openjdk from the repos
[20:26] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh: What type of file did you put on the USB? Was it an ISO or an IMG?
[20:26] <bwat47> but I've used the above ppa before it works fine
[20:26] <jlkkljh> let me see
[20:26] <jlkkljh> hang on
[20:26] <OerHeks> bwat47, official ubuntu does not support PPA's, carefull with that.
[20:27] <OerHeks> the !java url gives all java versions, and a howto to select the right java
[20:27] <andre22> kyle__>: can we speak via msn
[20:27] <andre22> ?
[20:28] <bwat47> OerHeks: which is why I recommended openjdk from the repos :)
[20:28] <jlkkljh> none i used the universal usb installer
[20:28] <OerHeks> bwat47, openJDK works for me too
[20:28] <kyle__> andre22: No.  I have no msn.  I mean /msg in irc.
[20:29] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh: What I find is that the best boot USB results come when you burn the Live CD .iso to the USB using a tool in the software centre called unetbootin
[20:30] <andre22> ok kyle
[20:31] <jlkkljh> TheAlliedFleet: ok how do i use it
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> jlkkljh  add the iso to the pendrive, reboot the pc from usb
[20:32] <bwat47> jlkkljh: just install unetbootin, open it, check the "disk image" box, browse for the iso you downloaded and hit ok and wait for it to finish
[20:32] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh: Download it from the software centre and launch it. It will take you frome there
[20:32] <TheAlliedFleet> *from
[20:32] <Unguided> Hello all. I am looking at buying a new laptop. The first one is an amd a8-4500m with radeon graphics and the other is the intel core i5-2450 with intel graphics. I have read that ubuntu works best with intel processors and nvidia graphics. Any suggestions on which I should choose? Thanks in advance
[20:33] <jlkkljh> ok thx
[20:33] <bwat47> amd apu's work fine with ubuntu out of the box too, but personally I recommend intel
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> Unguided  wrong channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:33] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh: And if you don't have the ISO it has a built in download for it :)
[20:33] <Costeelation> i have the intel core and run perfec!!
[20:33] <Unguided> MonkeyDust: Okay. Thanks
[20:34] <jerry_l> hello room.
[20:36] <rizzy> my network admin made me remove dropbox from my ubuntu desktop because he said it is owned by a hacker orginization and every file that is uploaded is read, and they look for bank account info, passwords and network setup info? Any truth to that at all?
[20:36] <TheAlliedFleet> rizzy: nope
[20:36] <Darkened> hello :3
[20:36] <rizzy> TheAlliedFleet: He also said it was using 90% of the networks resources
[20:37] <TheAlliedFleet> rizzy: Dropbox may be actively backing up in the background so you might want to check the settings and turn off any auto-options
[20:38] <jlkkljh> how would i open up a grub cmd line and boot from usb that way
[20:38] <bwat47> jlkkljh: you are just trying to boot from your usb drive?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> jlkkljh  you don't, just plugin the usb drive, reboot from usb, it doesnt go to grub
[20:39] <TheAlliedFleet> Or you use F12 or what the pc says for boot options
[20:39] <jerry_l> unless you want more on the usb grub for dos and fat16?
[20:39] <bwat47> jlkkljh: to do that open your bios's device menu and select the usb drive to boot from. most bios's have a key to open a simple boot menu, some you might have to go into the bios settings and change the boot loader that way. When you boot the pc the bios should tell you the correct key
[20:39] <jlkkljh> yes but every time i try i have no controll over what to boot
[20:40] <jlkkljh> ok
[20:40] <jerry_l> disconnect all the devices from the machine excpt for the CD/dvd drive and plug in your 32GB thumb drive
[20:40] <bwat47> jlkkljh: when you boot when the bios pops up it usually gives you 1-2 keyboard shortcuts. usually one to enter bios settings and one to show boot menu
[20:41] <Darkened> hey, would you lot be able to help me solve my sound issue iv been picking at it for a month and a half now...
[20:41] <Genesis> Hello
[20:41] <jerry_l> then fight our way through all your istalls and make shure grub is good. and you should be goood to go.
[20:41] <Genesis> i have aproblem while installing ubuntu could anyone help me?
[20:42] <jerry_l> reconect all other drives,.'
[20:42] <Genesis> I'm trying to install it on IBM eServer xSeries 365
[20:42] <Genesis> With 2x SCSI Hot-swap drives
[20:42] <jerry_l> are you using a 64bit version of OS
[20:42] <Genesis> And ubuntu installation doesnt see them
[20:43] <Genesis> no im suing x32
[20:43] <theguy> hi there, i need to access the grub menu on my 8.04 hardy server, but pressing esc when prompted during boot does nothing, what am i doing wrong?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> Darkened, describe your issue and info about your soundcard make and model
[20:43] <theguy> should i hold esc down, press is once, or tap it repeatedly
[20:43] <Genesis> What should i do?
[20:43] <Darkened> my issue is that I have no sound at all iv looked through all of my sound devices and activated them all still nothing it is a Realtek onbaord sound card
[20:44] <Genesis> Can anyone help me?
[20:44] <jerry_l> have you checked to make shure the SCsi controller is functioning in the drivers?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> theguy, hold the left shift key down after the bios scrn , until grub appears
[20:44] <Genesis> Bios does see them
[20:44] <Genesis> So i tihnk it is
[20:44] <jerry_l> good bios.
[20:45] <jerry_l> do you have a term in front of you?
[20:45] <theguy> BluesKaj, I'm running 8.04 which uses grub, not grub2, the key is esc not shift, I've already tried shift too
[20:45] <Genesis> There's no system there atm
[20:45] <Max808> Hello...I'm looking to get terminal server software for some enterprise products. I'm currently on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 Bit.
[20:45] <BluesKaj> ok , maybe an upgrade is in order , theguy ...just asuggestion
[20:46] <Genesis> And please excuse me i'm a real noob :P
[20:46] <stiv2k> hey
[20:46] <stiv2k> is there a 'snipping tool' for ubuntu?
[20:46] <Genesis> In ubuntu
[20:46] <stiv2k> like windows has
[20:46] <jerry_l> you r probaly missing the drivers if you tried to mount it. did you try to mount?
[20:46] <bwat47> stiv2k: shutter
[20:46] <Pici> stiv2k: what would this 'snipping tool' do?
[20:46] <theguy> Yeah BluesKaj, I'm just trying to reset my password
[20:46] <Genesis> Yeah my ubuntu installation says it cant see them and list me the drivers so i ddont know which one to pick
[20:46] <Jordan_U> theguy: Are you able to interact with menus in the BIOS?
[20:46] <Genesis> Thats the issue :(
[20:46] <stiv2k> Pici take a screenshot, but i can only grab certain parts of the screen i want
[20:46] <bwat47> stiv2k: its in the ubuntu software center, should be what you are looking for
[20:46] <theguy> Jordan_U: no
[20:47] <stiv2k> bwat47 cool i'll check it out
[20:47] <BluesKaj> Darkened, pulseaudio installed ?
[20:47] <theguy> but the keyboard works after boot
[20:47] <Calinou> stiv2k, pretty much any screenshot tool lets you do that
[20:47] <theguy> works in the login screen
[20:47] <Pici> stiv2k: then what bwat47 suggested will work. (thought you wanted some clipboard collection thing)
[20:47] <Calinou> additionally you can edit those using GIMP
[20:47] <stiv2k> Calinou not the gnome default?
[20:47] <jerry_l> do you know the info of the device? the name of the SCsi controller?
[20:47] <Calinou> > just press "print screen" on your keyboard :P
[20:47] <stiv2k> Calinou it takes a picture of the entire screen
[20:47] <stiv2k> which is 2x 1440x900
[20:48] <stiv2k> and i don't want that
[20:48] <Genesis> Where coudl i find it?
[20:48] <kyle__> What's the rational for putting ntpdate as the default on ubuntu server instead of ntpd?
[20:48] <Genesis> I do know the dis drives info though
[20:48] <bwat47> Calinou: sounds like he's looking for something like windows 7's snipping tool, which lets you easily select specific parts of the screen to screenshot. shutter in the software center does this :)
[20:48] <Jordan_U> theguy: OK, that means that your BIOS doesn't support your keyboard, and grub legacy can only use the BIOS for accessing the keyboard (grub2 can use native drivers, but uses BIOS interfaces by default). That means that you won't be able to interact with the grub menu at all (at least with your current keyboard and BIOS settings).
[20:48] <jerry_l> ibm/support/servers/blagh blach/specs.
[20:48] <Calinou> yeah
[20:48] <Genesis> Ok a sec
[20:48] <Jordan_U> theguy: You can change your password from a LiveCD/USB though.
[20:49] <jerry_l> or open the box and try to read the wrtiting on the chip.
[20:49] <Darkened> BluesKaj, Pule Audio Sound Server is installed first one on Ubuntu software center
[20:49] <theguy> Jordan_U: that's what I was thinking, will a live CD with Oneiric on it work?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> theguy: Also, if you're using a USB keyboard, and have a PS2 keyboard available, try using the PS2 keyboard.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> theguy: Yes.
[20:49] <theguy> will do
[20:49] <mhaase> join #jinja2
[20:49] <xapel> I am looking for a good photo book application. Are there any that anyone could recommend?
[20:49] <theguy> thank you very much
[20:49] <Genesis> LSI Ultra320 SCSI controller with RAID level-1 capability
[20:49] <Genesis> Is that it?
[20:50] <jerry_l> that sounds wounderfull.
[20:50] <kyle__> Oops, wrong chan
[20:50] <Jordan_U> theguy: For the easiest solution though, make sure that if it's a 64 bit server you use a 64 bit LiveCD.
[20:50] <Genesis> xD
[20:50] <celord> hello I am traying to create a bridge, I have ubuntu 11.10 and bridge-utils installed, after entering brctl addbr br0  brctl addif br0 eth1 brctl addif br0 tap0, I getinterface tap0 does not exist!, how do I create tap0 ?
[20:50] <jerry_l> now during the install/ where ou found the options was something that looked like that there?
[20:51] <jerry_l> LSI is the abrevation of the company name
[20:51] <laura__> hi, i have installed bluefish editor long time ago, manualy, with make, compile... something like that, I found instructions online. So I now want to remove it, but how do I do that?
[20:51] <Genesis> Oh i found it in the ibm specifications
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Darkened, your realtek is an onboard card correct ? open a terminal and do , cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:51] <Genesis> xD
[20:51] <TheAlliedFleet> Everyone, I reccomend being a bit careful installing java stuff now. There's a new cross-platform virus for Windows, Mac and Linux. Be on the look out!
[20:51] <auronandace> laura__: manually, have fun
[20:51] <jerry_l> should probably be the right one.
[20:52] <auronandace> laura__: next time you compile stuff use checkinstall
[20:52] <BluesKaj> Darkened, and tell us what the resulting output is .
[20:52] <laura__> auronandace: what to type?
[20:52] <auronandace> !checkinstall | laura__
[20:52] <Jordan_U> laura__: Firstly, this is why you should avoid compiling from source. Do you still have the directory where you built the source?
[20:52] <Layke> After I create a new alias in my ~/bash_aliases how do I get it to be ran?
[20:52] <Layke> (I know I could just type the alias until the next restart)
[20:52] <laura__> ubottu: thanks, will read that
[20:53] <Genesis> What one?
[20:53] <laura__> Jordan_U: I don't know where is the direcotry?
[20:53] <Darkened> BluesKaj, 0 snd_via82xx is the responce from terminal
[20:53] <laura__> ubottu: :)
[20:53] <BluesKaj> Layke, do you mean ~/.bashrc ?
[20:53] <Layke> Nah .bash_aliases, isn't bashrc just called whenever you open a new terminal?
[20:53] <Layke> and bash_aliases is once per boot up?
[20:54] <Genesis> Please what should i do now?
[20:55] <Layke> BluesKaj, Nevermind. I was being daft.
[20:55] <Layke> I forgot the = in my alias.
[20:56] <BluesKaj> Darkened, ok that's new to me , looks like a different chip than realtek usuallty uses.run , sudo aplay -l , and pastebin the output pls
[20:56] <Genesis>  I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server on IBM eServer xSeries 365 With 2x SCSI Hot-swap drives.It cant find any disk drives and printe me a list of aviable drives.What should i do know?
[20:57] <Darkened>  BluesKaj,**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[20:57] <Darkened> card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]
[20:57] <Darkened>   Subdevices: 4/4
[20:57] <Darkened>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:57] <Darkened>   Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
[20:57] <FloodBot1> Darkened: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <Darkened>   Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
[20:57] <c3l> Layke: if you want to reload changes to you .bash_aliases you can do `source ~/.bash_aliases'
[20:57] <Genesis> Hello?
[20:57] <Genesis> Anyone?
[20:57] <c3l> manyone
[20:57] <jlkkljh> will unetbootin work if installed on a different computer
[20:58] <TheAlliedFleet> jlkkljh: Yes
[20:58] <Genesis> ?
[20:59] <Genesis> ?
[20:59] <collinjsimpson> ?
[20:59] <F_Constant> ?
[20:59] <Genesis>  I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server on IBM eServer xSeries 365 With 2x SCSI Hot-swap drives.It cant find any disk drives and printe me a list of aviable drives.What should i do know?
[20:59] <xapel> I am looking for a good photo book application. Are there any that anyone could recommend?
[20:59] <auronandace> Genesis: being impatient won't get you help faster
[20:59] <Genesis> Bios does see them
[20:59] <Genesis> Ok
[20:59] <Genesis> But my server is stuck there :(
[20:59] <collinjsimpson> missing / unsupported hardware?
[21:00] <thirdender> I have a weird problem... running 12.04 upgraded since 10.04 (so that might be the cause, dunno)... the mouse occasionally won't let me click where I want. Instead, one window usually retains focus no matter where I click (which means some of my clicks go through the window on top of it). Drives me absolutely batty, and sometimes if I bang enough on the touchpad it stops. Crappy laptop wiring, bad upgrade path, or something people 
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Layke, if you want make aliases for cli commands , do so in the ~/.bashrc file , I have plenty there for differnt commands,  http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/the_alias_command
[21:01] <Genesis> i dont think so.
[21:01] <Layke> THanks for the link will check out
[21:01] <ufrgs> Is there any application able to read 3gp audio files ?
[21:02] <mizifih> Hi there! I need some help... I was wondering if I can setup a domain on my network using Ubuntu Desktop x86, if there is a uptodate tutorial explaining that? All I could find on Google was old, too much old.
[21:02] <Genesis> How can i know if its unsupported?
[21:03] <bwat47> ufrgs: vlc?
[21:03] <sasser> hey Mikael
[21:03] <collinjsimpson> genesis: do the devices appear with fdisk -l
[21:03] <m0ss> Hi. I'm running kubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am running it on a Macbook Pro 8,1 with Broadcom Wireless card BCM4331. I'm unable to get wireless working for some strange reason. There's plenty of information on google but many people have different issues than what I'm experiencing. Any help's appreciated, thanks!
[21:04] <Genesis> A sec i will.
[21:04] <collinjsimpson> m0ss, follow one of the tutorials and report back. we dont fix problems you havent tested
[21:04] <auronandace> m0ss: i suppose roy has suggested you try turning it off and on again? :)
[21:05] <m0ss> Hahah Yes :D
[21:05] <m0ss> okay well i'll be back later then i guess.
[21:05] <Genesis> How should i do the fdisk -l?
[21:05] <ufrgs> bwat47, Banshee read it. Thank you. Just figured. :P
[21:05] <Genesis> It's not a live cd i think
[21:05] <collinjsimpson> Genesis, in the terminal, hah
[21:05] <Genesis> Well in "execute a shel" option the command cant be found
[21:06] <bwat47> ufrgs: afiak 3gp support is part of gstreamer-plugins-good so pretty much anything should read it :)
[21:06] <hylian> how do i disable the touchpad, when there is no disable key...??
[21:06] <collinjsimpson> Genesis, can you boot into a live cd and check there? without a live environment you cant debug easily
[21:06] <Genesis> Ok
[21:06] <ufrgs> bwat47, cool
[21:06] <Genesis> hylian, i think you can disable touchpad in bios at least i can
[21:07] <jlkkljh> it still wouldnt do it
[21:07] <hylian> Genesis, i probably can, but I was hoping for a quicker on/off method
[21:07] <Genesis> :P
[21:08] <jlkkljh> it said media check failure
[21:08] <Genesis> collinjsimpson, you cannot but a live cd iwth ubuntu server :( at least i dont know how to. So should i burn a new one with normal ubuntu?
[21:08] <athom> Hi, I have the same question I had yesterday, but the guy that helped me did not know either. Problem is that grub does not detect the usb drive I installed ubuntu on. When the installation is complete, grub shows its prompt and any command results in stating that it cannot read from hd0. Booting a live usb works fine though... Any clue?
[21:08] <TheAlliedFleet> Genesis: Have you tried the netbootme tool for usb devices?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> Darkened, run sudo modprobe snd-via8237 in the terminal , if there's no output than the driver/module loaded.
[21:08] <jlkkljh> same for me anthom
[21:09] <jlkkljh> athom*
[21:09] <BluesKaj> than=then
[21:09] <collinjsimpson> Genesis, a live cd would be my first choice
[21:09] <Genesis> TheAlliedFleet, what do you mean? They're not running on usb i think.
[21:09] <jlkkljh> yes
[21:09] <athom> jlkkljh, what is your problem then?
[21:10] <Genesis> collinjsimpson, okay then i gotta burn a new cd xD will try then
[21:10] <jlkkljh> it either dosent detect it or somethings wrong
[21:10] <cipher__> using sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport (port number) -j ACCEPT, my ports will not open
[21:10] <cipher__> i'm trying to open 6800
[21:11] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, how are you testing whether the port is open?
[21:11] <Genesisx> Okay my new name xD
[21:11] <Darkened> BluesKaj, says, FATAL: Module snd_via8237 not found.
[21:11] <jlkkljh> like every time it says 1 of 2  things
[21:12] <jlkkljh> 1 it could say :media check failed
[21:12] <cipher__> collinjsimpson, netcat, netstat, nmap, remote port scans
[21:12] <cipher__> and i can't connect to the service running on port 6800
[21:12] <jlkkljh> 2 it also could say no boot filename recievd
[21:12] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, is your router configured correctly?
[21:12] <TheAlliedFleet> Genesis: I have it on one of my usb sticks and it does have lots of tools. I'm not sure if it has what your looking for but it's worth a look ;) http://www.netboot.me/
[21:12] <cipher__> these are being conducted via localhost
[21:12] <cipher__> nmap localhost
[21:12] <athom> oh
[21:12] <athom> well for me it does not state anything
[21:12] <BluesKaj> Darkened, sudo modprobe snd-via82xx , it's probly already loded but we need to make sure
[21:12] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, then remote port scans wont return anything
[21:12] <athom> it just displays the grub prompt
[21:13] <cipher__> so i would expect..
[21:13] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, are the ports in use, actively or residually
[21:13] <Benxyzzy> How do I find which DNS server DHCP has assigned to me?
[21:13] <stiv2k> bwat47 thanks man! shutter works great
[21:14] <bwat47> Benxyzzy: click on the network indicator > connection information
[21:14] <bwat47> stiv2k: np :_
[21:14] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, also, do other services function correctly on their respective ports?
[21:14] <jlkkljh> i am using an older computer
[21:14] <cipher__> 6800 is vnc, i use it a lot
[21:14] <cipher__> yes
[21:14] <BluesKaj> Darkened, have you checked aslamixer ? I'm sure you have ,but I have to ask
[21:14] <Benxyzzy> bwat47: thansk
[21:15] <Darkened> BluesKaj, yes checked the mixer all unmuted and volume levels set, for the command via82xx it just goes down a line says nothing
[21:15] <athom> well mine is brand new...
[21:15] <athom> like 3 days old or something...
[21:15] <athom> I have been trying to get ubuntu running for the last 3 days
[21:16] <andre22> i'm using ubuntu 12.04, can i install java for google chrome?
[21:16] <guntbert> !enter | athom
[21:16] <BluesKaj> Darkened, that means the module loaded successfully without errors
[21:16] <bwat47> andre22: yes, install openjdk and icedtea
[21:16] <cipher__> where is the iptables config?
[21:16] <athom> oh, I'm sorry guntbert, I am discussing with jlkkljh about it...
[21:17] <andre22> i do that, but doesn't worked
[21:17] <bwat47> does the plugin show in chrome's chrome:plugins page?
[21:17] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok I see well it did that and the Alsa Mixes says the onbaord is a Realtek ALC655 rev 0 if that is any help to solve this problem
[21:17] <cipher__> i can't find the path to the iptables config file, i've searched around
[21:17] <andre22> no
[21:18] <Costeelation> what is the command for see the partitions in may hdd???
[21:18] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, /etc/sysconfig?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> Darkened, can you dewscribe your audio setup , speakers connected to the soundcard analog outs or is it something differnt ?
[21:18] <andre22> it says . install java 7 plugin.
[21:18] <jlkkljh> i did get an alternate install to bring up a black screen and a mouse but that was about 2 years ago
[21:19] <bwat47> and you have the icedtea-6-plugin or icedtea-7-plugin package installed?
[21:19] <jlkkljh> it was like one within the booted install menu
[21:19] <cipher__> there is no /sysconfig in ubuntu's filesystem?
[21:19] <andre22> 7. with mozila firefox, it works
[21:19] <Costeelation> iuju
[21:20] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, /etc/sysconfig, not /sysconfig
[21:20] <cipher__> ...
[21:20] <Darkened> BluesKaj, they are Philips desktop speakers 2 with mains plug connection is a single 1.5mm jack to the onboard
[21:20] <Costeelation> what is the command for see the partitions in may hdd???	
[21:20] <auronandace> Costeelation: sudo fdisk -l
[21:20] <cipher__> under /etc/sys* sysctl.d/ systemd/
[21:20] <Costeelation> thanks mate :)
[21:20] <Genesisx> collinjsimpson, okay i will do that tommorow thank you for the help bye :)
[21:20] <auronandace> Costeelation: or you could use gparted for a graphical view
[21:21] <Costeelation> auronandace: ajam
[21:21] <bwat47> andre22: hmmm seems to work fine here with google chrome 21, openjre-7-headless, and icedtea-7-plugin
[21:21] <Costeelation> only want remember it :)
[21:22] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, /etc/network/ ?
[21:22] <andre22> how did you do that. help me
[21:22] <cipher__> what about it?
[21:22] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, investigate iptables man
[21:22] <bwat47> chrome complains icedtea plugin is out of date when I test it but it lets me "run this time" and works
[21:22] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, iptables config files.
[21:22] <jlkkljh> now i have used wubi and it says uncompression error (nextline) system halted
[21:22] <cipher__> why would it be there?
[21:23] <jlkkljh> is anyone helping me
[21:23] <BluesKaj> Darkened, which "chip" is listed on alsamixer ?
[21:23] <cipher__> what do you think i'm doing? (investigating)
[21:23] <auronandace> jlkkljh: with wubi? not many people like it
[21:23] <collinjsimpson> iphelix, "man", the manual utility
[21:23] <jlkkljh> cypher you are??
[21:24] <collinjsimpson> iphelix, * sorry
[21:24] <Darkened> BluesKaj, can you explain how I can do that please
[21:24] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, "man" program
[21:24] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, "man iptables"
[21:24] <cipher__> i know, i did :P
[21:24] <cipher__> that's how i learned it
[21:24] <BluesKaj> open a terminal , and type alsamixer , the chip will be shown in upper left , Darkened
[21:24] <collinjsimpson> cipher__, should be sufficiently configurable without manually modifying files
[21:24] <cipher__> ...
[21:25] <andre22> how to see free space in hard disk?
[21:25] <cipher__> collinjsimpson, what?
[21:25] <cipher__> it isn't working via normal methods
[21:25] <cipher__> remember lol
[21:25] <collinjsimpson> andre22, df
[21:25] <auronandace> andre22: delete what you don't need
[21:25] <Darkened> BluesKaj, Realtek ALC655 rev 0
[21:25] <jlkkljh> well that is the only thing that works i need help bad and if i dont get it  im going to stop trying and just reinstall win xp every time i have trouble
[21:25] <auronandace> andre22: sorry, misread you
[21:26] <kurtwp_> andre22: df -h
[21:27] <BluesKaj> Darkened, while you have alsamixer open make sure you have no  "MM" in the volume controls and use the arrow keys to naviagte and turn the controls up
[21:28] <jlkkljh> PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP
[21:28] <MasterOfDisaster> jlkkljh: so? threats won't get you anywhere. stick with windows xp/7 if you know how to use it.
[21:29] <Darkened> BluesKaj, all have been turned to 100 other than "mic boos" which is on MM and cannot be changed
[21:29] <jlkkljh> i wasnt threatning
[21:29] <guntbert> !patience | jlkkljh
[21:30] <MasterOfDisaster> jlkkljh: "if i dont get it  im going to stop trying and just reinstall win xp" - sounds like a threat to me, a toothless one if I may add.
[21:30] <jlkkljh> well everything is falling through on my end
[21:31] <jlkkljh> i lost my job i had to reinstall my phones software and cant get any info back
[21:33] <jlkkljh> please i need help all the installed ubuntu says is uncompression error (next line)-- system halted
[21:34] <BluesKaj> Darkened, are yo familair with www.pastebin.com, we need to see what the lspci , will output , seems to me you may have 2 soundcards on the machine , from what I've seen so far , laspci in the terminal will confirm. Copy nand paste the text from the terminal to pastebin, and the resulting url can be copied to here
[21:34] <BluesKaj> darkened , lspci , rather
[21:34] <BluesKaj> Darkened,^
[21:35] <lelouch> i neeeed backup plz i instaled ubuntu but can't detect my Graphic card "no nvidia" and it works fin verry well
[21:36] <jlkkljh> all the installed ubuntu says is uncompression error (next line)-- system halted
[21:36] <jlkkljh> i have it booted right now
[21:37] <Darkened> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/bfC5rGa7
[21:37] <cipher__> when i use a depth of 16 on vnc it has proper colour, but it low res for the most part; i then tried 32 bit, and it had more clarity, but all the colors were wrong :/
[21:38] <cipher__> 24?
[21:38] <auronandace> cipher__: jack bauer can't help you now
[21:38] <cipher__> :(
[21:40] <F_Constant> part
[21:41] <aaas> is there a place the ssh server save it's log while running as a daemon that shows the negoiation information from client logins?
[21:43] <r0tha> oh the negotiation's information
[21:43] <r0tha> as in the auth.lgo?
[21:43] <r0tha> *log
[21:44] <BluesKaj> odd Darkened , do you any audio devices attached like usb device perhaps?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> do you have
[21:45] <Darkened> BluesKaj, I only have a graphics card and a USB HUB card in the back because the USBs have problems
[21:46] <Darkened> BluesKaj, and a wireless D-link card too
[21:46] <BluesKaj> usb internet hub ?
[21:47] <Darkened> BluesKaj, no no a 4 port usg card give extra USBs
[21:49] <BluesKaj> ok Darkened ,,,it's very confusing to me that the  Realtek ALC655 would use a VIA technologies chip for their onboard card , this is an unusual situation, normally Realtek ALC655 uses an intel hda
[21:50] <auronandace> !cookie | BluesKaj
[21:50] <BluesKaj> auronandace, what ?
[21:51] <auronandace> BluesKaj: i thought you deserved commendation for helping people
[21:51] <genii-around> BluesKaj: It's kudos :)
[21:51] <Darkened> BluesKaj, I too find this very strange the board is a AMD socket set board and I know the onboard sound does work because it had windows XP on before (blue screen of death like always) so I decided to build it as a Ubuntu computer to learn Linux with
[21:51] <auronandace> BluesKaj: keep up the good job
[21:51] <BluesKaj> heh, I haven't been able figure this problem yet
[21:53] <ufrgs> how do I start screensaver ?
[21:53] <auronandace> BluesKaj: the intent and process of helping is at times just as important as the resukt
[21:53] <auronandace> result
[21:53] <thirdender> ufrgs: try Ctrl+Alt+L to lock the screen... if you have a screensaver enabled it should come up (also depends on your window manager and key bindings)
[21:54] <ufrgs> thirdender, thank you a lot! ;)
[21:54] <thirdender> ufrgs: np :-p
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Darkened, ok ,let's try this , alt+f2 gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom , options snd-via82xx index=0 , then save the file . You probly have to reboot , I would .
[21:56] <andre22> can i install gadgets about cpu usage on ubuntu 12.04
[21:56] <BluesKaj> well tahnks for you kind remarks , auronandace :)
[21:56] <auronandace> andre22: i find conky useful
[21:57] <delac> is it possible to have login without password BUT not automatic login at the same time (so it would still require first selecting the user)?
[21:57] <auronandace> delac: i don't think so
[21:57] <Darkened> BluesKaj, says could not find file
[21:58] <andre22> how to install conky
[21:59] <auronandace> andre22: i use synaptic, you could use software centre or just plain apt-get
[21:59] <andre22> can you write command line
[22:00] <auronandace> andre22: sudo apt-get install conky
[22:00] <auronandace> andre22: or you may want the conky-all package instead
[22:00] <jd2> i am having an issue with my hostname i have to use .local appended to the hostname or use the IP address how can I use just the host name is this an ubuntu issue or router problem? i type hostname and it feeds me back my hostname without the .local extension i don't know why i have to add this thanks
[22:01] <BluesKaj> Darkened, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils
[22:01] <andre22> all packaes
[22:01] <andre22> *all packages
[22:01] <auronandace> !info conky-all | andre22
[22:02] <tgm> jd2: domainname
[22:02] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok thats done
[22:03] <tgm> jd2:  see man hostname
[22:04] <andre22> how to open?
[22:04] <auronandace> andre22: you need to know how to configure it
[22:04] <auronandace> andre22: there are many tutorials out there
[22:04] <andre22> how i run it
[22:04] <auronandace> andre22: to run it just type conky in a terminal
[22:05] <tgm> jd2: But some routers will automatically resolve local IP addresses to respective domain names, some also provide the option to set a static IP and domain name of your choice to any of your PCs, (which is a pretty cool feature that not all routers have) ( yours may very well have it.).
[22:05] <auronandace> andre22: the default look and config is rather ugly
[22:06] <jd2> hmmm
[22:06] <jd2> when i type hostname i get back the hostname withouth .local
[22:07] <jd2> i have used static IP so i can have a static IP just wondering how to get rid of the .local i didn't have this issue before and feel it is a router issue not an ubuntu issue?
[22:07] <PatrickC> is there an easy way to upgrade from 32bit to 64?
[22:07] <iceroot> PatrickC: only reinstall
[22:07] <PatrickC> dang
[22:07] <auronandace> PatrickC: no, just reinstall
[22:07] <exutux> delac: yes you can
[22:08] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, ok , had to switch pcs ..wife wants to watch tv ..I use it as a monitor , so may have missed the alsa reinstall result
[22:08] <exutux> delac: man passwd may help you, I advise you to test ( passwd command ) with a tester user
[22:08] <Darkened> BluesKaj, no worries it has finished reinstalling Alsa
[22:09] <exutux> delac: btw for make an empty password you can just disable it typing sudo passwd -d username
[22:09] <PatrickC> thanks guys
[22:10] <iceroot> delac: please dont use empty passwords
[22:10] <exutux> iceroot: good point
[22:11] <delac> exutux:, iceroot : yes, empty password is not what I want. That might not fare well with sshd... I only want to be able to login from gdm (or whatever ubuntu is using now).
[22:11] <iceroot> delac: lightdm
[22:11] <exutux> delac: well yoi cannot then
[22:11] <exutux> you
[22:12] <snubbe> how do i change the password for the disk-encryption on ubuntu 12.04 server?
[22:14] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, ok now try the command with alsa base that I posted above in the run command box with root permissions ..dunno what text editor unity use nowadays (i'm on kde)  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:16] <Haugli92> php5-mcrypt is that needed to be enable in PHP config ? ;S
[22:17] <Haugli92> Forget it, restart solves everything..
[22:17] <iceroot> Haugli92: we cant answer if you need that module for your php application
[22:17] <Haugli92> its related to ubuntu-server ;))
[22:18] <species_4981> In LM12 (or 13 I suppose) , where are there a set of "systemn" icons for me to choose from? I want to change a desktop shortcut to a different icon (for VNC) and I can't see in usr/bin any icon files pertaining to VNC ...
[22:18] <species_4981> This is Gnome 3
[22:19] <nelson777br> hello, how I can make a user appear in user-admin tool ? using 10.04. I already set the same groups for it as a user that show correctly. Yet this user I'm trying to add is logged in via ldap. It has created the account ok, but it doesn't show in user-admin
[22:19] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok it opens correctly now do I re type over where it says options - xxx xx xxx or do I go down a line and write a clean one?
[22:20] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, add the line , options snd-via82xx index=0 , this makes the soundcard using that driver/module the default
[22:20] <lhu> hi guys do you know any source for learning linux ?
[22:20] <lhu> i mean learning terminal codes etc
[22:20] <lhu> kind of tutorial or something like that
[22:20] <delac> would someone happend to remember how to prevent user switcher from locking the desktop when switching users?
[22:21] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok it saved correctly now
[22:21] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, write a new line at the bottom , better still copy and paste it from here
[22:21] <OerHeks> lhu, this is a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal/
[22:21] <hollister> hi! i'm editing a read-only text file found in /etc/network/... It is preventing me to save even with a :w! How do I override this?
[22:21] <escott> hollister, use sudo or gksudo
[22:22] <hollister> escott: as in sudo vi readonlyfile.txt ?
[22:22] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, ok , a reboot now is best
[22:22] <OerHeks> lhu & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
[22:22] <escott> hollister, yes
[22:22] <Darkened> BluesKaj, Thanks for your your help ill be back in 2 mins Fast computer :>
[22:22] <namelezz> hollister, why vi? use gedit
[22:23] <lhu> @0erHeks ok i'll start from these 2 sources
[22:23] <lhu> after that what you suggest for wide info ?
[22:23] <R33p3R> hey
[22:23] <species_4981> (sorry - wrong channel ..should have been the linux-mint help irc ...sorry)
[22:23] <hollister> escott: ah, ok that worked. thanks!
[22:23] <tgm> hollister: wy vi?  use vim
[22:23] <hollister> namelezz: why gedit? I'm kinda used to vi
[22:24] <hollister> tgm: i'm using vim actually
[22:24] <namelezz> use libreoffice :)
[22:24] <tgm> hollister: amen vi is quick / easy
[22:24] <tgm> or vim...
[22:25] <tgm> namelezz: I don't recommend using libreoffice on config files  :)
[22:25] <escott> tgm, what makes you think vi isn't vim
[22:25] <delac> sorry, I was faster than you:   org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen   :)
[22:25] <namelezz> that was a joke
[22:25] <OerHeks> lhu there are a lot of wikipages, howto's and forum discussions. these 2 links are a good start.
[22:25] <tgm> escott:  vim is the enhanced vi editor
[22:26] <escott> tgm, i know what vim is. im asking you what makes you think that vi isn't a symlink to vim
[22:26] <tgm> escott: but there *is* a difference
[22:26] <exutux> delac: good glade to know it, where did you found it?
[22:26] <kriskropd> vi is lighter than vim
[22:26] <BluesKaj_> what's the default texr editor on ubuntu now , google doesn't seem to know
[22:26] <BluesKaj_> text
[22:26] <tgm> escott: Well, it's not on mine.
[22:26] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok im back still no sound yet
[22:26] <escott> tgm, on most systems that have vim installed it will be
[22:27] <delac> exutux: internet :)   Last answer without points    http://askubuntu.com/questions/80883/disable-password-prompt-on-user-switch
[22:27] <tgm> Oh ok.
[22:27] <minnesotabro> guys I have a problem
[22:27] <minnesotabro> and I kinda need it fixed soon
[22:28] <tgm> escott: I guess once you install vim, vi is just syet as link to vim.
[22:28] <minnesotabro> I can't type in Swedish/Norwegian because I can't enable the keyboards
[22:28] <tgm> escott: I see that you are correct.  Thanks oinfo
[22:28] <eoss> what's up with ubuntu threatening me about editing resolv.conf?
[22:28] <tgm> info
[22:28] <eoss> fuck that
[22:28] <escott> BluesKaj_, there was never a "default" many of the cli routines use nano unless you install something like vim or emacs. most standard ubuntu guis should have gedit installed and associated with txt mime types
[22:29] <escott> !language | eoss
[22:29] <exutux> delac: This disables screen lock on user switch and hibernation wakeup.
[22:29] <eoss> why would you disable editing of resolv.conf?
[22:29] <minnesotabro> how do I get it to enable both international keyboards, or at least US international?
[22:29] <tgm> escott:   ... it's the ubuntu way...
[22:29] <eoss> you trying to make things confusing
[22:29] <minnesotabro> -__-
[22:29] <exutux> delac: it's disable login password too? on lightdm?
[22:29] <delac> exutux: yes? it was not answer for my first, but the second guestion.
[22:29] <BluesKaj_> Darkened, i was afraid of that ...out of ideas atm ...it's dinnertime here and then i have yardwork to do , but i'll do some more research to see if can't track this down.
[22:30] <exutux> delac: oh sorry I lost your second question
[22:30] <BluesKaj_> escott, ok thanks , good ol' gedit lives
[22:30] <hollister> Hi (again)! I've just installed openvpn. Also, I've got both my .ppk and .psk file. How do i configure openvpn so i can access my workplace?
[22:31] <Darkened> BluesKaj, ok well thank you for your time anyway I guess I will tinker with iit some more see if I can get any responce Have a good rest of your day :>
[22:33] <kriskropd> !keyboards | minnesotabro
[22:34] <lhu> hi guys i installed 12.04 lts and i want to use ubuntu with classic view. i installed gnome-classic but its not feeling like original ubuntu
[22:34] <bz> i got my head checked
[22:34] <lhu> is there a way to change this ?
[22:34] <tgm> hollister:  see http://openvpn.net/ and see the howto
[22:34] <andre22> hey guys
[22:34] <kriskropd> lhu, install new themes?
[22:35] <andre22> i can't see videos on youtube, i'm using google chrome....
[22:37] <hollister> tgm: i'm reading it atm
[22:37] <tgm> andre22: Use firefox
[22:37] <andre22> lool i dont like mozila
[22:37] <minnesotabro> guys I need help
[22:37] <tgm> andre22: It has been my experience that those that install chrome have problems.  I would uninstall it.
[22:37] <minnesotabro> and I need a solution soon
[22:38] <Need2Grow> i installed chrome and couldnt find a manu bar
[22:38] <Need2Grow> it was UNREAL
[22:38] <minnesotabro> I can't enable a Swedish or Norwegian keyboard
[22:38] <kriskropd> !keyboard | minnesotabro
[22:38] <tgm> andre22: chrome may not be the real problem, I'm only speculating but...
[22:38] <minnesotabro> how do I launch gnome
[22:38] <andre22> so can i import fdvourites from chrome to firefox
[22:39] <andre22> *favourites
[22:39] <r3dLunchb0x_> is there a IRC for bash scripting? I'm trying to get package information in ubuntu but only want certain information.
[22:40] <zixxy> r3dLunchb0x_, #bash ?
[22:40] <r3dLunchb0x_> minnesotabro: you have to log out, look at the little window where you type your password, there is a little ubuntu type icon in the upper right of that window, click it and select gnome, then type your password, waa-laa
[22:40] <kriskropd> minnesotabro you can select gnome when you login or any other desktop environment you ahve installed
[22:40] <kriskropd> have*
[22:41] <r3dLunchb0x_> zixxy: thanks I'll try that
[22:41] <minnesotabro> oh
[22:41] <zixxy> r3dLunchb0x_, you're welcome.
[22:41] <andre22> can i import fvourites from chrome?
[22:42] <wowjees23> Is there a game like 'Spider Solitaire' for Ubuntu?
[22:42] <kriskropd> andre22 yes, chrome uses the same html formatted bookmark exporting that firefox is familiar with
[22:43] <Dr_willis> !info pysolng
[22:43] <tgm> andre22: I don't know much about chrome, but if chrome has the ability or option to export *bookmarks*  or *favorites* to a html file, you can import it into firefox.
[22:43] <Dr_willis> !find pysol
[22:43] <Dr_willis> wowjees23,  chjeckj out PySol ;)
[22:43] <andre22> how can i do it
[22:43] <hilarie> Not sure if this is the right place, I have a ubuntu server(12.04) with 2 NICs, one WAN(eth0) and one LAN (eth1) is there a way to disable ssh on the WAN?
[22:44] <escott> hilarie, why not restrict to a subnet
[22:44] <kriskropd> andre22 in settings or somewhere you should be able to see your bookmarks and select to export them (it moves around with every version i ever use in chrome -_-)
[22:45] <Dr_willis> i see where chrome can Import bookmarks from FF.. but no export feature.
[22:45] <Dr_willis> perhaps a chrome plugin/extension can export them
[22:45] <kriskropd> hilarie you might be able to do that with iptables
[22:45] <tr3nton> there is an export feature in the bookmark manager, no?
[22:45] <hilarie> iptables are scary :(
[22:45] <kriskropd> Dr_willis, shouldn't need a plugin, I know Ive done it before O_o admitingly it was awhile ago
[22:45] <Dr_willis> tr3nton,  in chrome - i dont see it..
[22:46] <Dr_willis> Unless its hideing somewhere
[22:46] <escott> hilarie, thats not so bad. you just block traffic to port 22 on eth0
[22:46] <tr3nton> Dr_willis: chrome -> bookmark manager -> organise menu -> export bookmarks to html file ??
[22:46] <Dr_willis> there it is... under that little pull down menu item in the thingie.. what a weird gui that is.
[22:46] <escott> !ufw | hilarie
[22:46] <Need2Grow> thingie?
[22:47] <Need2Grow> dr willis?  little pull down menu and thingie?  weird gui?
[22:47] <Dr_willis> lets take menus out of the title bar area.. and put them in the main body of the gui... yea...
[22:47] <Dr_willis> Yes.. its very weird.
[22:47] <Dr_willis> but its bcause its all in a 'browser' i guess
[22:47] <hilarie> escott, will read up on UFW, thank you so much
[22:47] <kriskropd> thats why i stopped using chrome -_-
[22:47] <Need2Grow> dr wilis  were all weird in out own little way
[22:47] <Need2Grow> admonishing a menu is way of fbase
[22:47] <tgm> Dr_willis: as far as I can tell google chrome is just a stripped down remake of firefox.  I see no use it in.  I kinda think that if it were something we needed... well I can nly speculate so...
[22:47] <Need2Grow> hi abismal
[22:48] <kriskropd> tgm, its actually closer to safari than firefox
[22:48] <Dr_willis> tgm you are confused. ;P
[22:48] <kriskropd> the web engine i mean
[22:48] <Dr_willis> heh..
[22:48] <tr3nton> chome is nothing like firefox, aside from they both render websites
[22:48] <Dr_willis> Been using chrome for ages. went back to FF last week because its out for my phone now and can sync with it.
[22:48] <Need2Grow> chrome is bad ass but you have to be able to handle it all
[22:49] <Shinobi> If I am a directory owner and group member should I be able to read the directory with mode 371?
[22:49] <tgm> Dr_willis: I'm not confused, you are
[22:49] <escott> Shinobi, yes, but thats a really weird permission set
[22:49] <maxflax> i wonder how i can from ubuntu bash connect to a samba share - mounting it isn't the problem.. problem is that I only get read and not write
[22:49] <tgm> (As I styated, I was speculating)
[22:50] <graft> hi, how do i setup ubuntuone on kde?
[22:50] <kriskropd> maxflax permissions are handled by the samba daemon
[22:50] <kriskropd> or server rather, not the client conencting to it
[22:50] <Dr_willis> and the shell wouldent matter. :)
[22:50] <Shinobi> escott: here's the deal. I'm using unison to sync my indexes. They have user= amanda backup and group = disk. mode = 331
[22:51] <escott> Shinobi, still 331???? What?
[22:51] <Shinobi> I added myself to the disk group and made the permissions 371 so I could sync via unison
[22:51] <Shinobi> I don't know why
[22:51] <Shinobi> very strange
[22:51] <maxflax> kriskropd: but I add user and password in my mount and that user has write on that machine
[22:52] <Shinobi> anyways.. when I sync to my local machine I can't read the files even thought the local copy has
[22:52] <Dr_willis> maxflax,  whats the exact command you are using to mount the share?
[22:52] <Shinobi> 371 for a mode and user=me and gruop=me
[22:52] <escott> Shinobi, why would you hide the files in the directory, but allow modification of the directory
[22:52] <kriskropd> maxflax are you looking at /etc/samba/smb.conf or just the file permissions?
[22:52] <Shinobi> escott: not following you
[22:52] <kriskropd> maxflax: you need to allow writing in smb.conf too
[22:52] <Shinobi> what did I hide?
[22:53] <escott> Shinobi, 3=write and execute ... so everything but "read"
[22:53] <alusion> whats a good burner
[22:53] <Shinobi> escott: that's a question for the amanda folks. That's the way amanda writes the darn files
[22:53] <Dr_willis> !burn  alusion
[22:54] <Dr_willis> !burn | alusion
[22:54] <Shinobi> It's a pain in the butt though
[22:54] <escott> Shinobi, something must be setup wrong. it doesnt make any sense at all
[22:54] <maxflax> Dr_willis:  smbmount //mynas/files01 /mnt/nas -o username=maxflax,password=*******
[22:54] <Shinobi> I agree with you escott. * However* I can't read the files on the local machine even though I have group rights to do so
[22:54] <Shinobi> let me make sure Ubuntu added me to my  own group
[22:54] <Dr_willis> maxflax,  and how did you make the share? edited smb.conf? or the right-click menus?
[22:55] <maxflax> Dr_willis: OpenMediaVault gui -- not with smb.conf
[22:55] <kriskropd> maxflax in smb.conf under the share details you will need 'write list = maxflax'
[22:56] <tgm> Shinobi:  Have you logged out and back in since you added yourself to the group?
[22:56] <maxflax> kriskropd: ok,
[22:56] <Dr_willis> id check the smb.conf then for the share definition maxflax     or whever its defined at these days.
[22:56] <escott> Shinobi, it must be part of the posix standard. i've always thought that you got the union of all permissions that were applicable. perhaps you get the permissions of the most specific directive
[22:56] <tgm> Shinobi: Yes check and see.   grep <user> /etc/group
[22:56] <kriskropd> maxflax and also 'writable = yes' probably
[22:57] <Shinobi> grep wynn /etc/group
[22:57] <maxflax> kriskropd: ill check the smb.conf - brb
[22:57] <Shinobi> apparantly I don't belong to a group
[22:57] <escott> Shinobi, yeah. if you "echo something > file; chmod 007 file; cat file" you get permission denied
[22:58] <Shinobi> I thought the same about the union of permissions
[22:58] <escott> Shinobi, most permissions are sensible so you never run into it
[22:59] <Shinobi> Yeah, this is outside the norm and sucks because if I actually have to use this (backup indexes) it means a bare metal recovery and this is my failsafe.
[22:59] <Shinobi> I don't feel that safe at the moment. :)
[23:00] <dsg_> l
[23:00] <tgm> Shinobi: Yea, could be thyat the file(s) are 600 instead of 744 or644
[23:00] <escott> Shinobi, The effective permissions are determined based on the user's class. For example, the user who is the owner of the file will have the permissions given to the owner class regardless of the permissions assigned to the group class or others class.
[23:02] <Shinobi> I got it. Thanks. I'm going to set it up differently. I'll push them out to a removeable HD or something.
[23:03] <maxflax> kriskropd:  ok, checked the smb.conf and is looked good.. did a pastebin of the share part http://paste.ubuntu.com/1087032/
[23:04] <escott> Shinobi, not sure what you want from unison. i just do an rsync backup with --link-dest not sure what else one could want
[23:04] <kriskropd> maxflax try adding 'writable = yes' to the end of the list
[23:06] <andre22> how can i unninstal some application in cmd?
[23:07] <otaku_coder> hi, how can I add a font name alias? I want the font League Gothic to also accept the name league-gothic.
[23:07] <kriskropd> andre22 if you know the name of the pacakge 'sudo apt-get purge package_name'
[23:07] <andre22> conky
[23:07] <maxflax> kriskropd: funny thing is that when mounting the samba with nautilus works and I get write.. only when mounting it from bash i get problem
[23:07] <Shinobi> escott: I just use unison to sync my laptop and workstation. Thought I'd just use it with the indexes as well. unison uses rsync though so it's all the same
[23:08] <escott> Shinobi, what are these indexes
[23:08] <andre22> kriskrpd- conky
[23:08] <Shinobi> backup indexes
[23:11] <kriskropd> maxflax well you were using smbmount which im not familiar with, i always mounted by shell  like "sudo mount -t cifs //ip/sharename /mnt/sharename -o user=kriskropd,password='pasword' "
[23:12] <maxflax> kriskropd:  smbmount is the same as u use,, diff name only
[23:12] <kriskropd> andre22 I dont have the conky package, you can look for it with 'apt-cache search conky' perhaps
[23:13] <kriskropd> andre22 yeah I found it, you should be able to remove it with 'sudo apt-get purge conky'
[23:15] <andre22> removing...
[23:17] <kriskropd> Mr-Bin metamorphosis?
[23:17] <zixxy> andre22, kriskropd meant that you need to replace 'package_name' in the command he gave you. So if it's conky, then 'sudo apt-get purge conky'
[23:17] <Mr-Bin> ahaha lol
[23:18] <andre22> yes i know
[23:18] <andre22> it's says - removing conky...
[23:18] <escott> andre22, kriskropd, you should be careful purging packages
[23:19] <andre22> since 5min...
[23:19] <andre22> why
[23:19] <zixxy> andre22, sorry, I was just confused as to what you were asking. My fault.
[23:20] <escott> andre22, purge also removes the configuration files. you may want those
[23:20] <soehest> is there any way to see which patches is applied to the ubuntu kernel?
[23:20] <mikesiny89> Hi all. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 for the first time. I've been receiving some messages stating packages aren't signed when trying to install apps via apt-get
[23:20] <mikesiny89> is that normal?
[23:21] <synapse_> anyone know of a sikuli or web automation channel on freenode?
[23:21] <kriskropd> escott, sorry, I presumed andre22 wanted the configs gone as well when they said "uninstall", remove only removes the packages and leaves configs
[23:21] <wawowe> faukka
[23:22] <ClientAlive> hi. I have that lousy broadcom wireless card. I've done most of the stuff to get things working but I need help to verify that everything is there and set up correctly before I try to reboot. You see, last night I forgot to install it at all and when I rebooted the system would not start at all. Today I started over with a fresh install. I don't want a repeat of last night so if anyone can help me I would sure appreciate it. Running lxde
[23:22] <ClientAlive>  on Ubuntu Server 12.04.
[23:22] <thoshoe> hi all
[23:22] <ClientAlive> hi thoshoe
[23:23] <thoshoe> hi cli alive
[23:23] <ClientAlive> what up man!
[23:23] <ClientAlive> :)
[23:23] <wawowe> ClientAlive: seem like you're doing well
[23:24] <lanc3r> hey guys
[23:24] <ClientAlive> wawowe: sort of, kinda - but not sure how to do a couple things I think are important
[23:24] <ClientAlive> I so don't want a repeat of last night again
[23:24] <thoshoe> using linux for first time  almost
[23:24] <wawowe> ClientAlive: what's important?
[23:25] <thoshoe> its  a little kinkie
[23:25] <lanc3r> can someone help me?
[23:25] <andre22> how can i reduced sensivity of my mouse. like windows
[23:25] <kriskropd> !ask | lanc3r
[23:25] <israel> andre22, system-preferences-mouse
[23:25] <wawowe> ClientAlive: your wireless driver somehow screwed up your setup?
[23:26] <ClientAlive> well, I'd like to get nm-applet up in front of me and configure the wireless settings, make sure I can connect with the cat 5 unplugged (through my wireless connection), then reboot
[23:26] <thoshoe> me  too
[23:26] <lanc3r> is there anyway to get linux to recognize my ACHI netbook hardrive?
[23:26] <ClientAlive> wawowe: the o/s would not start because of the missing firmware
[23:27] <escott> andre22, should be in the oust properties
[23:27] <wawowe> ClientAlive: that's not cool
[23:27] <lanc3r> is there anyway to get linux to recognize my ACHI netbook hardrive?
[23:27] <ClientAlive> no, not so much :(
[23:27] <escott> lanc3r, AHCI should be well supported
[23:27] <wawowe> ClientAlive: did it tell you why it couldn't start?
[23:27] <lanc3r> well, its not
[23:27] <escott> lanc3r, you should be more specific about exactly what makes you say that
[23:28] <thoshoe> bye  for now
[23:28] <lanc3r> linux puppy gould see the hardrive but couldnt mount it
[23:28] <lanc3r> ubantu cant even see it
[23:28] <lanc3r> could**
[23:28] <wawowe> lanc3r: they can both see it..
[23:28] <ClientAlive> there was an error. The gist of which said the firmware for b43 was missing and gave a url to a help page. It never would fire up though.
[23:29] <kriskropd> lanc3r 'sudo parted -l' you should see it
[23:29] <andre22> my mouse stills very fast
[23:29] <andre22> i can't reduce more
[23:29] <andre22> why
[23:29] <ClientAlive> andre22: have you looked in system settings yet?
[23:30] <DeSian> hi everybody her, i have iMac intel Alu and installed successfully ubuntu on it, but actually i don't like bling.bling stuff, it's possible on 12.04 to have classic gnome without Unity, 3D,2D?
[23:30] <andre22> yes
[23:30] <lanc3r> okay i see it, how do i mount it?
[23:30] <wawowe> ClientAlive: if i were you and i couldn't see and issue beyond that i would compile my own kernel and set up
[23:30] <Guest53240> I'm having a problem with logging into a samba share on ubuntu server. I can login with the admin user, but when I try to login with my wife's username and password I get errors.
[23:30] <ClientAlive> oh, ok. sorry that's all I know of
[23:30] <lanc3r> okay i see it, how do i mount it?
[23:30] <escott> lanc3r, sudo mount /dev/sdX# /media/mountpoint
[23:31] <kriskropd> Guest53240 check /etc/samba/smb.conf and make sure its configured correctly
[23:31] <wawowe> ClientAlive: or look for b43 firmware with apt-cache
[23:31] <Ghosthunter007> Guest53240, did you add your wife to the smb list with smbpasswd -a
[23:31] <ClientAlive> apt-cache?
[23:31] <DeSian> no idea?
[23:31] <wawowe> ClientAlive: apt-cache --search b43
[23:31] <kriskropd> Desian, when you login, you can select which desktop environment you want
[23:32] <ClientAlive> oh, ok
[23:32] <kriskropd> DeSian, should be a lil round icon just above the password entry
[23:32] <Guest53240> Ghosthunter007, I did not. I'm using webmin to administer things. but I do have an ssh session open to it right now.
[23:32] <wawowe> ClientAlive: will list stuff related to that,.. then you can apt-get install
[23:32] <DeSian> kriskropd no just 3D and 2D actually i don't like unity at all
[23:33] <Ghosthunter007> ok webmin doesnt work all the time I recommend from the command line to issue the smbpasswd -a
[23:33] <lanc3r> root@root:~# mount /dev/sdX#/media/mountpoint
[23:33] <lanc3r> mount: can't find /dev/sdX#/media/mountpoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:33] <Ghosthunter007> example : smbpasswd -a username
[23:33] <israel> lol
[23:33] <kriskropd> DeSian did you try 2D? I think thats gnome-classic, not certain but I think it's supposed to be
[23:33] <escott> lanc3r, you have to fill in the X# with the correct values
[23:33] <kriskropd> Ghost53240 webmin can be kind of broken sometimes, just saying
[23:33] <DeSian> kriskropd no that is the unity the same thing Almost :-)
[23:33] <eoss> if my /etc/network/interfaces file doesn not have a wlan configured how is my laptop pulling dhcp wirelessly?
[23:34] <Guest53240> Ghosthunter007, when i try that command I just get an explanation of the command. It isn't actually telling me that it is doing anything.
[23:34] <eoss> its only got a lo
[23:34] <ClientAlive> with dpkg --list | grep b43 I see a b43-fwcutter but is that something I need to run before the firmware gets installed?
[23:34] <ClientAlive> that other command didn't work
[23:34] <Ghosthunter007> try this>      sudo smbpasswd -a yourwifesuseraccount
[23:35] <Ghosthunter007> it should have you enter in the password
[23:35] <Guest53240> Ghosthunter007, I got the sudo part. but I'm getting an error
[23:35] <lanc3r> like /dev/sdb...?
[23:35] <Need2Grow> cam someone invite me on #windows
[23:35] <Need2Grow> its invite only
[23:35] <Ghosthunter007> can you paste error to me in PM
[23:35] <wawowe> ClientAlive: i would look up b43-fwcutter
[23:35] <Jef91> I install Ubuntu 12.04 from a minimal CD and then I installed libreoffice - but spell check does work for English/US which is the system wide language. Any help?
[23:36] <reuf> hello everyone - i was installing ruby using apt-get - the installation process got messed up  - now whenever i try to install something else - it goes well, but at the end each time i get  Errors were encountered while processing: ruby-rvm \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:36] <wawowe> ClientAlive: i don't know the specifics because i don't have that hardware
[23:36] <reuf> how do i clean this?
[23:36] <DeSian> kriskropd i found this video, i try that, and thnx for your help
[23:36] <DeSian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQXKrH46wI
[23:36] <lanc3r> like /dev/sdb...?
[23:36] <israel> lanc3r:yes
[23:37] <lanc3r> still wont work :(
[23:37] <wawowe>  lanc3r re-explain your issue
[23:38] <lanc3r> mount: can't find /dev/sdb/media/mountpoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:38] <lanc3r> im haveing trouble mounting my scsi netbook drive
[23:38] <wawowe> lanc3r: space between /dev/sdb1 /media/mnt
[23:38] <wawowe> ?
[23:39] <ClientAlive> wawowe: I see. I tried to start network manager with a service network-manager restart  because when i tried to run nm-applet a bit ago I got errors talking about network manager. It won't start it and I don't know why. How can I see whether it is running or not?
[23:39] <lanc3r> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpont
[23:39] <lanc3r> mount: mount point /media/mountpont does not exist
[23:40] <wawowe> ClientAlive: service networking restar
[23:40] <wawowe> t
[23:40] <kriskropd> lanc3r the irectory you are mounting to has to exist
[23:40] <kriskropd> lanc3r 'mkdir /media/mountpoint'
[23:40] <wawowe> lanc3r: mkdir /media/mountpont && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpont
[23:41] <ClientAlive> ahh
[23:41] <ClientAlive> ok
[23:42] <ClientAlive> it's rejecting it, talking about "matched rules",  and "Unknown instance:"
[23:42] <wawowe> ClientAlive: what does nm-applet do?
[23:43] <ClientAlive> I thought it was the network settings for lxde
[23:43] <lanc3r> root@root:~# mkdir /media/mountpoint
[23:43] <lanc3r> root@root:~# mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpont
[23:43] <lanc3r> mount: mount point /media/mountpont does not exist
[23:43] <lanc3r> oh i see, wait
[23:43] <subz3r0> "mountpont"
[23:43] <subz3r0> +i
[23:44] <subz3r0> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
[23:44] <c3f59> and so he learned a basic thing about *ix: check your spelling.
[23:44] <wawowe> ClientAlive: screw that app, use the terminal rediscribe your destination
[23:44] <lanc3r> i must specify the filesyster type
[23:44] <lanc3r> system*
[23:45] <ClientAlive> how do I do that?
[23:45] <c3f59> lanc3r that aint got anithing to do with that directory not existing
[23:45] <wawowe> ClientAlive: open the menu and look for "run" or something like that
[23:45] <wawowe> ClientAlive: and have it run xterm
[23:46] <d3v1an71> Hey all - anyone with experience with unison?
[23:46] <lanc3r> how do i specify the filesystem
[23:46] <escott> lanc3r, usually you dont need to unless there is something weird
[23:46] <escott> lanc3r, what kind of fs is it
[23:46] <lanc3r> i do not know
[23:46] <c3f59> lanc3r, check your spelling first
[23:46] <ClientAlive> I have a terminal open. I know how to do that. I don't know how to get this wireless configured and working.
[23:47] <lanc3r> theres a gui for that
[23:47] <c3f59> as you typed it here you tried to mount to a directory called mountpont instead of mountpoint
[23:47] <escott> lanc3r, open the disk utility it should be able to tell you
[23:48] <lanc3r> disk utility?
[23:48] <lanc3r> gparted?
[23:48] <escott> lanc3r, gparted is fine, but there is also a disk utility
[23:48] <wawowe> ClientAlive: assuming you install the drivers/firmware it should be fine after reboot
[23:48] <lanc3r> how do i open it?
[23:49] <noiro> hey guys, care to help a new guy out? I have installed the nvidia driver but ubuntu is not picking up my second display. Why?
[23:49] <escott> lanc3r, hit the windows key and type "disk utility" (unless you arent running unity/gnome)
[23:49] <lanc3r> im running KDE
[23:49] <israel> noiro, you must configure the second display in the nvidia app
[23:50] <escott> lanc3r, i dont know what tools kde provides for this. but it probably has something
[23:50] <kriskropd> lanc3r just do 'df -T'
[23:50] <wawowe> escott: do you have a machine running unity/gnome?
[23:50] <israel> noiro, X Server Display Configuration
[23:50] <noiro> israel, where is it exactly? Ubuntu's navigation system is...new. All I see is a side bar. I am running GNOME
[23:50] <escott> kriskropd, that wont tell lanc3r anything useful. its not mounted yet
[23:50] <wawowe> escott: must suck
[23:51] <wawowe> to have to have that
[23:51] <escott> !ot | wawowe
[23:51] <israel> noiro,system-administration.nvidia
[23:51] <wawowe> blah
[23:51] <c3f59> allright i'll say it one last time: lanc3r check your spelling? did you or did you not get the mount command right?
[23:51] <lanc3r> no im running KDE, and df -t just shows my already mounted medias filesystem
[23:51] <noiro> israel, command not found
[23:52] <wawowe> escott: if you're an op, you'd do me a favor by banning me for a while
[23:52] <israel> noiro,isn't a command just go to the menu
[23:52] <escott> !ops | wawowe
[23:52] <lanc3r> mount /dev/sdb /media/mountpoint
[23:52] <lanc3r> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:52] <escott> lanc3r, you can also do "sudo parted -l"
[23:52] <kriskropd> lanc3r yeah my bad, I thought wrong about df -T, can you just run 'gparted' and check?
[23:52] <wawowe> k thx
[23:52] <kriskropd> install it if you have to with 'sudo apt-get install gparted'
[23:52] <noiro> israel, which menu? All I see is a side bar with icons. No drop-down from what I see
[23:52] <lanc3r> dot have it installed.
[23:52] <lanc3r> don't
[23:52] <kriskropd> lanc3r install it if you have to with 'sudo apt-get install gparted'
[23:53] <wawowe> escott: fun being a robot:P
[23:53] <kriskropd> its worth just installing anyways, you can remove it after
[23:53] <lanc3r> i know how to install it.
[23:53] <elky> wawowe, that was uncalled for.
[23:53] <israel> noiro, white this in terminal sudo nvidia-settings
[23:53] <wawowe> sorry :
[23:54] <kriskropd> escott haha you are right, parted -l did have the filesystems
[23:54]  * kriskropd facepalms
[23:55] <lanc3r> gparted says its all unallocated
[23:55] <noiro> israel, how do I restart x?
[23:55] <escott> lanc3r, so you dont have anything on the drive. its blank
[23:55] <lanc3r> i know.
[23:55] <lanc3r> can i not mount a blank drive?
[23:55] <israel> noiro,startx
[23:55] <escott> lanc3r, no. there is nothing to mount. you have to mkfs a filesystem first
[23:56] <escott> lanc3r, you can use a gui, or just run mkfs.type /dev/sdb1
[23:56] <kriskropd> good thing you installed gparted ....
[23:56] <noiro> israel, that starts it. It is not restarting. I get data incomplete in file error
[23:57] <israel> noiro,sudo reboot -p
[23:57] <Guest70788> hi , all I am wondering if anybody knows about recover software like theses https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery/
[23:57] <lanc3r> what filesystem would i want to make my drive if i want to install linux?
[23:57] <Guest70788> would theses software recover pictures or files if the footer/header info was not there
[23:57] <lanc3r> ext2?
[23:57] <Guest70788> for example if I had a jpeg and part of it was on disk except the header and footer info.
[23:57] <israel> lanc3r, ext4
[23:57] <Jordan_U> lanc3r: Just run the Ubuntu installer and choose automatic partitioning.
[23:57] <lanc3r> no,
[23:58] <lanc3r> i dont trust the installers partitioner
[23:58] <Jordan_U> lanc3r: Making partitions ahead of time gains you nothing, and actually makes things slightly more difficult.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> lanc3r: Why not?
[23:58] <wawowe> Guest70788: if there's no footer or header then no
[23:58] <Guest70788> I don't think there would be away to make since of the data enough to extract it
[23:58] <lanc3r> its failed for me alot on difrent distros
[23:58] <wawowe> Guest70788: n that case it's up to you
[23:59] <Ghosthunter007> yes you can recover pictures and files without a headers and footers
[23:59] <c3f59> lanc3r what distro are you installing now?
[23:59] <wawowe> not with software that looks at headers
[23:59] <lanc3r> is there a way to install whats already on my persistent