[00:08] <basoke> Okay, so I'm having a weird problem, when I open an openGL window, or the GIMP, the desktop gets all manner of hideous graphical spazms.
[00:27] <Scunizi> Is there an easy way to unmount a SD card outside of opening Dolphin and doing it from there..?  Let's leave the cli out of responses please.. I know that one.
[00:28] <Sentynel> Scunizi: does it appear in the device notifier in the system tray? if so there'll be an unmount button there
[00:28] <Scunizi> good question.. haven't looked there. hang on
[00:30] <Scunizi> Sentynel: yep.. I played with the little icon right next to its listing.  Although not very clear about what it does when looking at it, it appears to mount and unmount the card. Is that the easy location?
[00:31] <Sentynel> Scunizi: that's the quickest gui way of mounting/unmounting I'm aware of
[00:31] <Scunizi> I've been on this version of KDE for quite some time and never bothered to look there. Thanks! :)  and shame on me :-/
[02:22] <alexis_> hola a todos
[02:22] <alexis_> mis saludos, ya que soy nuevo en este IRC
[02:23] <alexis_> Alguien me puede decir si ve lo que estoy escribiendo
[02:28] <genii-around> Bleh I wrote out the entire !es | alexis_   thing too....
[02:28] <genii-around> !es | alexis_
[02:28] <Unit193> !es | alexis_
[02:28] <genii-around> Unit193: Tie!
[02:29] <alexis_> muchas gracias
[04:03] <iharp> If I installed the latest flash plugin from adobe via a .deb package and then disabled my internal plugin on google chrome. How would I allow it to use the systems flash plugin?
[04:03] <iharp> I understand there is some moving of files required
[05:17] <eagles0513875> mission control i have a major problem. the problem is after yesterday's xorg update i have no visual on my display
[05:17] <eagles0513875> any solutions
[05:18] <eagles0513875> i get to the login screen but i get no desktop environment :-/
[05:18] <eagles0513875> scratch that it seems to be working now
[05:23] <aaron_> anybody about?
[06:23] <eagles0513875> hey guys seems like after the xorg update yesterday that im only getting 1/4 of the full brightness on my display on my netbook
[06:23] <eagles0513875> any ideas as to the cause of this issue
[06:31] <systemclient> what is an easy way to get a DHCP Server running for eth0 for a LAN Party? I just need it for one event and want to start it manually. Can I set it in the network settings or do I have to install something?
[06:39] <azevedo> Hello, someone else sow a KDE issue when you minimized some application?
[06:44] <hateball> systemclient: you'd need to install a dhcpd, either dhcpd3 or dnsmasq is what I'd go with
[06:44] <hateball> setting up dhcpd3 is pretty trivial, and you could change the daemon to start manually
[06:46] <systemclient> hateball: okay, how would I set it up to start manually?
[06:50] <systemclient> hateball: sysv-rc-conf?
[06:50] <hateball> systemclient: this is a pretty good post http://askubuntu.com/a/20347
[06:50] <systemclient> hateball: I'll look into that, thanks!
[06:50] <hateball> I don't know which version you're on, I don't know if it's upstart in 12.04 as I've not used dhcpd on that
[06:50] <hateball> if it's not, you'll want to use update-rc.d
[06:55] <systemclient> hateball: I'll look into it, the askubuntu post is pretty  thorough
[06:56] <systemclient> When I try to install packages, I am told that something is broken and packages are held. How can I upgrade all held packages?
[06:59] <calcmandan> is there a kernel module that allows reading from a compact flash drive? When i put a micro sd card on my machine, it mounts fine. If i load a live disc, it won't see the same micro sd. i'm thinking kubuntu's live disc kernel doesn't have the module.
[06:59] <hateball> systemclient: make sure you apt-get update first
[07:01] <systemclient> hateball: I think I am missing the main repo … changed the mirror and I guess I messed that up
[07:13] <hateball> systemclient: should be able to fix it with muon
[07:22] <systemclient> i just copied the sources.list from the wiki, now it works again
[10:34] <mah454> Hello
[10:34] <mah454> I installed apache web server in kubuntu
[10:34] <mah454> but this command not work !
[10:34] <mah454> invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[10:34] <mah454> invoke-rc.d apache2 stop work ! but start not work !
[10:59] <Avihay> mah454: try restart, it sometimes works when start won't
[10:59] <Avihay> in some services
[10:59] <blarf_> hi, if i want to use the open ati and nvidia driver with 3d support, do i need to do anything, like install something or change some config?
[11:02] <Avihay> the open drivers are installed by default
[11:02] <Avihay> as for 3d support, I've heard that the open drivers have some issues
[11:03] <Avihay> but I wouldn't really know
[11:04] <blarf_> ok?
[11:14] <aboudreault> damn... tired of my Kubuntu :( everything crash when I tried to get back from sleep
[11:15] <BlaXpirit> and the "something crashed" icon just doesn't go away
[11:15] <aboudreault> no, I have to restart kdm
[11:15] <BlaXpirit> 12.04 is a disaster compared to 11.10
[11:16] <aboudreault> for the sleep issue, yes.
[11:16] <BlaXpirit> also bluetooth stopped working
[11:16] <BlaXpirit> also printer server stopped working
[11:16] <BlaXpirit> constant crashes
[11:16] <BlaXpirit> package managing issues
[11:17] <BlaXpirit> and they dared to call it LTS
[11:17] <aboudreault> I've noticed the printer issue too. it tooks 2 hours to print 5 pages
[11:19] <BlaXpirit> on my laptop i did distribution upgrade, things go even worse than on clean install which i have on the PC
[11:20] <aboudreault> now, when I boot. akonadi is taking my whole 8GB of ram
[11:20] <BlaXpirit> one of the first things i do in kubuntu is to disable akonadi and nepomuk crap
[11:22] <Avihay> stop using Muon?
[11:23] <BlaXpirit> Muon is actually great
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:24] <BlaXpirit> Hey.
[11:24] <Avihay> does it show you the dpkg output yet?
[11:26] <BlaXpirit> i'm not sure what you mean by that. but from all the graphical package managers it's the best
[11:37] <Avihay> unless it gives me enough output to know when my system is broken, why and what I can do to fix it, like the dpkg output does, it's a bad idea to use it as a package manager
[11:38] <Avihay> try synaptic, it's ugly, but it's feature complete and it shows you the dpkg output, so you know exactly what goes wrong with your installation when it happens
[11:43] <Avihay> dpkg is a "package manager for Debian" (it deals with the what's on your computer side rather then with how to get the packages online) your package manager' more or less, has to use it to do the actual installing
[12:11] <datruth> How can I disable my touchpad when my usb mouse is plugged in
[12:11] <datruth> ?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> datruth, install synaptiks
[12:38] <azbarcea> hello
[12:39] <azbarcea> i have problems installing postgres from apt
[12:39] <azbarcea> I get ... GMT FATAL:  exceeded MAX_ALLOCATED_DESCS while trying to open directory "/usr/share/zoneinfo"
[12:40] <azbarcea> i can't purge, reinstall remove nothing
[12:40] <azbarcea> how do I force a complete removal (purge) when post-install script failes?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> azbarcea, i thought postgres was installed by default as postgresSQL
[14:01] <daniekl> hi
[14:11] <killown> what happened with kde? http://i.imgur.com/aiwrM.jpg
[14:11] <killown> this only happens with effects enabled
[14:11] <killown> this kind of error is too annoying
[14:11] <killown> BUG*
[16:16] <mah454> I install fglrx driver
[16:16] <mah454> but can not start KDM !
[16:17] <mah454> this log : http://pastebin.com/sm7Li61c
[16:18] <qw_> hello all
[16:18] <qw_> i would like instal VirtualBox help me please
[16:18] <Joit> mah454:  your first install? you probatly missing a video driver
[16:28] <mah454_> How can fix this problem ? (kdm crashed) http://pastebin.com/sm7Li61c
[16:35] <genii-around> mah454_: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.back      then: sudo restart kdm
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> need help in using bazaar
[17:12] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: who is packaging rc1?
[17:45] <phoenix_firebrd> need help in using bazaar
[18:04] <Mamarok> phoenix_firebrd: what exact help o you need?
[18:04] <Mamarok> do*
[18:20] <john__1> hi all
[19:34] <saiyajin> cuantos españoles hay aqui?
[19:51] <OerHeks> !es | saiyajin
[20:15] <mandy434> Hello all. I was wondering if anyone would have time to help me with a kubuntu login problem. I would be super appreciative of any help :)
[20:15] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[20:19] <mandy434> Hello Grego
[20:21] <mandy434> Is anyone there?
[20:24] <grego> it is
[20:24] <mandy434> hello again
[20:24] <mandy434> can you help me grego
[20:24] <grego> probably not, but i can try
[20:25] <mandy434> awesome :) iam having trouble loggin in to kubuntu
[20:25] <grego> with what?
[20:25] <grego> oh
[20:25] <grego> any error messages?
[20:25] <grego> i mean what happens?
[20:25] <mandy434> cannot enter home directory. using/.
[20:26] <mandy434> could not update ICEauthority file /.ICEauthority
[20:27] <mandy434> I have no idea what these mean
[20:27] <mandy434> fail safe fails as well
[20:27] <grego> was home directory encrypted?
[20:27] <grego> can you boot live and access it?
[20:27] <mandy434> Im not sure.
[20:27] <mandy434> I can login to command line.
[20:29] <mandy434> is that the same as live?
[20:31] <grego> no live as in liveCD (or uSB9 ad then you boot form that media. hmm it seems your home folder was encrypted
[20:31] <mandy434> oh ok. Is that hard to fix. Thanks for your help ;)
[20:34] <genii-around> mandy434: When you are able to login at the command-line, is it under your username ?
[20:35] <grego> i am reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1841457
[20:35] <mandy434> yeeah
[20:35] <grego> no2
[20:35] <grego> post #2
[20:35] <mandy434> okay am checking that out now
[20:35] <genii-around> mandy434: Ok. So, to try: cd && sudo chown $(whoami): /home/$(whoami)/.ICEauthority
[20:36] <grego> it seem this can also happen if someone uses sudo on graphcial interface instead of kdesudo
[20:36] <genii-around> mandy434: And then go back to the graphical login screen and see if you able to enter after that
[20:36] <mandy434> ok will try this now
[20:36] <genii-around> grego: There are several reasons the file can change ownership, yes
[20:39] <Daskreech> mandy434: can you do an ls -l on the .ICEauthority file?
[20:39] <mandy434>  sure can
[20:40]  * genii-around plies Daskreech with coffee
[20:40] <mandy434> wait how do i do this on the ICEauthority file
[20:40] <Daskreech> Beans?
[20:41] <mandy434> i typed ls -l .ICEauthority but im not sure where this file is located?
[20:41] <Daskreech> mandy434: type ls ~/.ICEauthority
[20:41] <mandy434> oh. ok one sec
[20:44] <mandy434> it says no such file
[20:46] <mandy434> do you think this could be the problem?
[20:46] <genii-around> mandy434: The ~/ part is important. eg EXACTLY:   ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[20:47] <mandy434> I did that a couple of times. with the ~/ . no luvk
[20:48] <mandy434> could this file be missing
[20:57] <Daskreech> mandy434: it shouldn't complain about it then?
[20:57] <Daskreech> mandy434: touch ~/.ICEauthority
[20:57] <Daskreech> then try login
[20:58] <mandy434> okay ill try that
[21:02] <mandy434> Dakreech: Im still recieving errors. "Cannot enter home directory. Using /.
[21:02] <mandy434> and the ICEauthority one
[21:04] <genii-around> The "cannot enter home directory" part looks interesting
[21:05] <genii-around> mandy434: Does: ls /home  show a directory with your username?
[21:06] <mandy434> So now ls -l ~/.ICEauthority works and outputs "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  //.ICEauthority 0 Jul 12 15:00
[21:06] <mandy434> gennii-around:: I will check that now
[21:07] <genii-around> hm root
[21:07] <gits1225> I was trying to get to use ubuntu font on the konsole, but the only options are the monospace variants.
[21:07] <gits1225> How do I get to use the other fonts?
[21:07] <mandy434> The ls /home does show my name
[21:09] <mandy434> is this a good sign
[21:09] <Joit> thats your subfolder, anyone got a home/username
[21:09] <Joit> just shows, its here
[21:09] <genii-around> mandy434: I think you are logged on as root however
[21:10] <genii-around> mandy434: eg: the file Daskreech told you to touch is owned by root
[21:10] <mandy434> I am I believe. How do I check this genii?
[21:10] <genii-around> mandy434: What says result of: whoami
[21:11] <mandy434> it says mandi
[21:11] <mandy434> mandy
[21:11] <Joit> thats the same name as you get at /home?
[21:11] <Joit> so, /home/mandy?
[21:11] <mandy434> yeah
[21:11] <genii-around> mandy434: But yet: <mandy434> So now ls -l ~/.ICEauthority works and outputs "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  //.ICEauthority 0 Jul 12 15:00
[21:12] <mandy434> yes
[21:12] <genii-around> Says owned by root, group root, etc
[21:13] <genii-around> mandy434: What is result of: pwd
[21:13] <mandy434> no just what was quoted. Ok I will try that genii.
[21:14] <mandy434> pwd command gives output   /
[21:16] <Joit> thats not correct, shiould be /home/user
[21:17] <mandy434> hmmm. what can cause this?
[21:17] <genii-around> mandy434: Did you boot to recovery kernel and then choose the menu item of root?
[21:18] <genii-around> eg: How did you get to the command line?
[21:18] <mandy434> i used ctrl alt f1
[21:18] <mandy434> and then logged in with username and password
[21:19] <genii-around> Joit: Also, whoami showing "mandy" but ls -l showing root:root on a file they just made with touch
[21:20] <Joit> genii-around:  sorry, i do trust more in you then in me here, i only can follow you here at the most things :)
[21:20] <genii-around> mandy434: Did you have home directories mounted on a different partition, or encrypted, or something?
[21:20] <genii-around> Bleh, I have to leave soon, banking to do
[21:21] <Joit> get online banking :)
[21:21] <mandy434> No installed the kubuntu fresh a couple years ago and updated to 12.04 a couple of months ago. was working fine till now.
[21:23] <genii-around> mandy434: Apologies, I have to go in a short while. If you are here tomorrow 9:30-sh to 5pm-ish GMT-4 I will be around then. Or hopefully you will get some assistance from another soon.
[21:23] <Joit> mandy you can try this, open a new window with ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 or f3 .. login as user
[21:23] <Joit> then hit chown user:user /home/user/.ICEauthority
[21:24] <Joit> its a workaround when iceauthority didnt get updated
[21:24] <mandy434> Joit:: okay do i need to restart or stay in the current f1 window
[21:24] <Joit> it writes, with root rights, not sure, if you have to put sudo infront
[21:24] <Joit> you dont need to
[21:24] <Joit> you can switch back
[21:24] <Joit> just look where at what window you are in now,
[21:25] <mandy434> for user is that my user nake or "user"
[21:25] <Joit> you can test that with cycle through ctrl- alf F1 . F8
[21:25] <Joit> its your username
[21:25] <Joit> like mandy
[21:25] <Joit> "user" is allways that placeholde for the descritption
[21:27] <Joit> that then would be chown mandy:mandy /home/mandy/.ICEauthority
[21:27] <mandy434> ok i have succesfully used the chown command
[21:27] <Joit> now chmod 644 /home/mandy/.ICEauthority
[21:28] <Joit> not sure why he use 644 for this
[21:28] <Joit> usual its something 1000 or so
[21:28] <Joit> but i think it doesnt make much matter
[21:28] <mandy434> now ok will do that now
[21:29] <Joit> then type exit
[21:29] <Joit> and then reboot
[21:29] <mandy434> ok
[21:30] <Joit> wait
[21:30] <Joit> i found another page :p
[21:30] <Joit> one sec
[21:30] <mandy434> already rebooting
[21:30] <mandy434> :)
[21:30] <mandy434> did i mess up
[21:30] <Joit> no
[21:31] <Joit> did you use sudo at the chown command?
[21:31] <mandy434> i did
[21:31] <Joit> ok, that what he suggested too
[21:31] <Joit> i will past what he did
[21:31] <Joit> was similar to ours
[21:31] <Joit> 1. cd /home/benutzername/
[21:31] <mandy434> cool. should i try to log on regular now
[21:31] <Joit> 2. rm -r .ICEauthority
[21:31] <Joit> 4. touch .ICEauthority
[21:32] <Joit> 5. sudo chown Benutzername /home/Benutzername/.ICEauthority
[21:32] <Joit> 6. sudo reboot
[21:32] <mandy434> do i need to do these commands now
[21:32] <Joit> he said, that way the iceauthority will be created new
[21:32] <mandy434> okay i will do that now
[21:32] <Joit> well, not sure, i tink both should work, only not sure, if the usernumber does make a different
[21:33] <Joit> but we can try it afterwards again,w hen it doesnt work
[21:33] <skreech_> mandy434: try ls -l /home
[21:33] <Joit> any user got a number
[21:33] <Joit> usual you have a number allready alligned, and not sure, if kde then makes a different at the files
[21:34] <Joit> because a lot files probatly have the old usernumber
[21:34] <Daskreech> possible that you lost ownership of your home directory
[21:34] <Joit> but i still dont know, how it all is managed, over a file or over a common management
[21:35] <Joit> right now, we only did change the icdauthority file, so its not much messed
[21:36] <mandy434> it says missing operand after mandy/home/mandy.ICEauthority
[21:36] <mandy434> when i try the chown command
[21:37] <Joit> do you use it as root?
[21:37] <mandy434> yeah
[21:37] <Joit> mean sudo infront
[21:37] <mandy434> yeah
[21:38] <Joit> ok, did you do the steps from the second example?
[21:38] <Joit> cd /home/mandy ..?
[21:39] <mandy434> so cd first
[21:39] <mandy434> oh shoot missed that ill redo
[21:40] <Joit> what do you get at ls -ls /home?
[21:40] <Joit> what numbers
[21:40] <Joit> what numbers for mandy
[21:40] <Joit> err ls -la /hom
[21:40] <Joit> +e
[21:40] <Joit> arrgh
[21:41] <Joit>  :) ls -la /home      Is it!
[21:41] <mandy434> it says cd command not found. or without sudo permission denied
[21:42] <Joit> do ls
[21:42] <mandy434> ok
[21:42] <mandy434> it took that
[21:42] <mandy434> do you need the output
[21:43] <Joit> just tell me the number what is in the line of mandy
[21:44] <Joit> then we can compare with the first example
[21:45] <mandy434> there are four lines. the first says "total 12"
[21:46] <mandy434> the next " drwxr-xr-x 3 root root"
[21:46] <Joit> well, i looked again, seems 777 works better, because it changes the the permission of folders subfolders and files
[21:47] <Joit> can you open again a console with ctrl-alt-f2 or 3
[21:47] <mandy434> yeah
[21:47] <Joit> f1 - f5 works
[21:47] <mandy434> im in f1 right now
[21:48] <Joit> login as user
[21:48] <mandy434> should i switch
[21:48] <Joit> no its ok i think
[21:48] <mandy434> okay i am already logged on as user in that case
[21:48] <Joit> then do sudo chmod 777 /home/user/.ICEauthority
[21:48] <Joit> then do sudo chmod 777 /home/mandy/.ICEauthority
[21:49] <TheLordOfTime> um... in practice,777-ing items is bad
[21:49] <TheLordOfTime> like literally ***bad***
[21:50] <Joit> darn it, you are right
[21:50] <Joit> i read further
[21:50] <Joit> i am sorry, need to redo it
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not on KDE atm, but I have a .ICEauthority... its perms are like this
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> 32K -rw------- 1 teward teward 28K Jul 12 16:50 .ICEauthority
[21:50] <mandy434> uh o
[21:50] <mandy434> now what
[21:50] <Joit> 1 sec...
[21:50] <mandy434> already dids it
[21:51] <Joit> nothing lost
[21:51] <mandy434> is there a sudo undo ha ha
[21:51] <Joit> you allways can change the permission
[21:51] <mandy434> oh good
[21:51] <Joit> you simple overwrite it with a new sudo :)
[21:51] <mandy434> ok
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> would be 600 if you're using numerics to define permissions
[21:51] <Joit> 664 was ok, just need a _r at last
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> (if you're matching default-setups)
[21:51] <Joit> -R
[21:52] <mandy434> ok so what do i write now?
[21:52] <Joit> that page i looked up again, said, you can get errors with ie apche at 777
[21:53] <mandy434> so do the same thing but do sudo chmod 664 /home/mandy/.ICEauthority -R
[21:53] <Joit>  do sudo chmod 664 /home/user/.ICEauthority -R
[21:53] <Joit> yes
[21:54] <mandy434> okay done
[21:54] <Joit> ok, now you can reboot
[21:54] <Joit> i hope to see you soon :)
[21:55] <mandy434> rebooting I need a drink. Should it work now
[21:55] <Joit> changing the permissions is not a big deal anyway
[21:55] <Joit> yes, it should
[21:56] <Joit> we did create the permission file new and set the permission from your files and folders at your home folder
[21:56] <Joit> there is nothing lost when you didnot format anything or delete :)
[21:56] <mandy434> It still wont let me log in "cannot enter home dierectory. using /."
[21:57] <Joit> you need to reboot
[21:57] <Joit> did you do that?
[21:57] <mandy434> I did.
[21:57] <Joit> that was fast
[21:57] <mandy434> did it matter that the cd step was missed before
[21:57] <Simp> Hi people of the World
[21:58] <Joit> not for the example one
[21:58] <Joit> he didnt do that
[21:58] <mandy434> oh.
[21:58] <mandy434> so i only needed the one chmod command
[21:59] <Joit> try again sudo chown mandy:mandy /home/user -R
[21:59] <Joit> and then reboot again
[21:59] <Joit> err
[21:59] <Joit> try again sudo chown mandy:mandy /home/mandy -R
[21:59] <Joit> missed one mandy :)
[22:00] <mandy434> okay
[22:00] <Joit> then reboot
[22:00] <Joit> btw did you install maybe clamav?
[22:00] <Joit> a page said, it can mess up with this file
[22:01] <Joit> or the permission even
[22:02] <mandy558> sorry lost connection for a minute
[22:03] <mandy558> Still no luck
[22:04] <Joit> np
[22:04] <Joit> ok again step by step
[22:04] <mandy558> okay
[22:04] <Joit> but i wanna look again a bit more at the web
[22:04] <Joit> you are not the only one with the problem :) maybe someone has a good solution
[22:04] <szal> is that an installed system or a live system?
[22:04] <mandy558> good
[22:05] <mandy558> this is so weird. I worked perfectly for 2 months.
[22:05] <mandy558> what is installed vs live
[22:05] <mandy558> Its all local and a fresh installation if thats what you mean
[22:11] <Joit> mandy558:  shows 2 solutions now. either reboot in recovery mode, or first try it again with chmod
[22:12] <Joit> the first and easy method is, open a a console again
[22:12] <mandy558> ok.
[22:12] <Joit> then type chown mandy:mandy /home/mandy/.ICEauthority
[22:12] <Joit> this time maybe without root rights
[22:12] <Joit> when you got an error, then you have to use the sudo
[22:13] <Joit> i understand peoples very well, when they do not want to look at the net, so much mess there ...
[22:13] <mandy558> do i need -R
[22:13] <Joit> at the next command
[22:14] <Joit> did you get an error?
[22:14] <mandy558> okay not on the chown though
[22:14] <mandy558> no errors
[22:14] <Joit> chmod 644 /home/mandy/.ICEauthority
[22:15] <Joit> the -r command is actually only to change the permission at the folder and files
[22:15] <Joit> this 2 been for set the permission at the iceautority file
[22:15] <mandy558> so -R on this one either
[22:16] <Joit> no, its only good for setting permission on fodlers and files, that should work on the file
[22:16] <Joit> but i ll look
[22:16] <mandy558> okay no errors
[22:17] <Joit>  -R, --recursive               change files and directories recursively
[22:17] <Joit> ok then try rebooting
[22:17] <Joit> did you run gnome as root prabtly?
[22:17] <Joit> that was a error too, what some made
[22:17] <mandy558> how do i know if i ran gnome at boot
[22:18] <Joit> you see it , its a graphical interface :)
[22:18] <Joit> but it was probatly at f8
[22:18] <Joit> but anyway, its not that importend
[22:18] <mandy558> I used the ctrl alt f1 at the login menue for the previous steps
[22:18] <mandy558> was that okay?
[22:19] <Joit> mainly its to fix the ice file and have the permission for your user
[22:19] <Joit> yes, you can use any konsole what runs at f1-f5
[22:19] <Joit> it doesnt matter, you can open them all time at linux, thats wha is kinda handy here :)
[22:19] <mandy558> Cool. Should I try normal logon now?
[22:19] <mandy558> :)
[22:19] <Joit> and toogle betweeeen the konoles with ctrl-alt f1-f5
[22:20] <Joit> yes
[22:20] <mandy558> dang same old errors
[22:20] <Joit> ok seems the ice file dont get updated
[22:21] <mandy558> yeah. maybe idk. :)
[22:21] <Joit> its simple a hidden file  the .dot at the beginnin indicate that, and its located at /home/username
[22:21] <mandy558> should i ls that file then
[22:21] <mandy558> to see
[22:22] <Joit> no, not for me
[22:22] <Joit> ok try to rebooting into recovering mode
[22:23] <mandy558> how do i do that
[22:23] <mandy558> from the gui login?
[22:23] <Joit> you reboot, and you see at the screen your kernel list
[22:23] <Joit> the 2nd line usual says recovery mode, and you can pick it with the arrow key
[22:24] <Joit> up and down keys
[22:24] <mandy558> you mean failsafe mode?
[22:24] <Joit> yes
[22:25] <mandy558> okay. I will try. That wasnt working earlier though.
[22:25] <Daskreech> mandy558: Still having issues?
[22:25] <Joit> ok. do you get something like a recovery menu?
[22:26] <mandy558> I get same errors for failsafe. no luck
[22:26] <Joit> yes Daskreech still no ccess
[22:26] <Joit> mandy, not yet :)
[22:26] <Joit> do you have a recovery menu or only a prompt?
[22:26] <Joit> a command line
[22:27] <mandy558> i can only access the command line. i get the home folder error when trying to access failsafe from the KDE login menu.
[22:27] <Joit> its ok, are you logged in there as user or root?
[22:28] <mandy558> im not sure. i have to give my user name and password.
[22:28] <Joit> ok means you can choose what you want
[22:28] <Joit> login as root then
[22:29] <Daskreech> mandy558: can You type sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit
[22:29] <mandy558> do i use root for user name in command line
[22:29] <Daskreech> mandy558: no
[22:29] <mandy558> oh. so how do i pick?
[22:30] <mandy558> Dakreech:: I can try that
[22:30] <Daskreech> !root | joit
[22:31] <Joit> yeah was about to sudo the rest
[22:31] <Daskreech> mandy558: When that installs let me know
[22:31] <mandy558> Daskreech::okay
[22:32] <Daskreech> Is that ok it's installed?
[22:32] <Daskreech> :)
[22:32] <mandy558> Okay installing now
[22:33] <mandy558> :)
[22:33] <Daskreech> ;-)
[22:33] <mandy558> You guy are very helpful. This would be impossible for me.
[22:34] <mandy558> what is pastebinit?
[22:34] <Joit> something to past your output into the web, can show errors
[22:34] <mandy558> Daskreech:: Pastebinit has been installed
[22:35] <Daskreech> !info pastebinit
[22:35] <Daskreech> mandy558: type ls -la ~ | pastebinit
[22:35] <Daskreech> mandy558: it will give you a URL. Give us the URL in here
[22:36] <mandy558> ok one sec
[22:42]  * Daskreech waits
[22:42] <Joit> thought you have om's :p
[22:43] <Joit> pm's
[22:43] <Joit> i assume that the iceauthority dont get updated
[22:44] <Joit> probatly wrong spelling, need to use upper and lower letters like .ICEautority
[22:44] <Joit> and me still missing a h :7
[22:45] <Joit> and gladly we have a bot what tries to enter all time
[22:45] <Joit> Its ICEauthority :p
[22:46] <mandy558> it doesnt seem to be working
[22:47]  * Joit pokes Daskreech
[22:48] <Daskreech> mandy558: hmm what's not working ? the command?
[22:48] <Daskreech> Joit: Thanks
[22:49]  * Joit pokes mandy558
[22:49] <Joit>  :)
[22:50] <Joit> probatly the ~ was to much
[22:50] <mandy558> yep
[22:51] <mandy558> the command wont work
[22:51] <Joit> try without the ~?
[22:51] <Joit>  type ls -la | pastebinit
[22:52] <Joit> or ls -la | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:53] <mandy558> ok just one sec
[22:55] <emyller> 'lo fellas
[22:55] <emyller> is there any channel specific for telepathy on Kubuntu?
[22:56] <Daskreech> emyller: this is it
[22:56] <mandy558> http:/paste.ubuntu.com/1088917/
[22:57] <emyller> okay
[22:57] <emyller> I'm trying latest builds of kde-telepathy-* (v0.4) on my Kubuntu box
[22:57] <emyller> but i can't open any chat window due to this error: "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Error.NotAvailable: Handler no longer available"
[22:57] <mandy558> did that work
[22:57] <emyller> it doesn't tell me which handler it's about
[22:58] <emyller> any ideas?
[22:58] <Joit> yes
[22:58] <Joit> your file is still owned by root
[22:58] <mandy558> damn
[22:58] <Joit> but it should be owned by your user
[22:58] <Joit> Daskreech:  !
[22:58] <Joit>  :P
[22:58] <Joit> he may can faster solve it them me
[22:58] <Joit> then *
[22:59] <Joit> i only can do trial and error
[22:59] <mandy558> thats better than me
[23:00] <Daskreech> mandy558: type pwd
[23:00] <emyller> everything else seems okay, though.
[23:00] <Joit> in case you wanna see my file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1088931/
[23:00] <mandy558> It outputs    /
[23:01] <mandy558> sorry it took so long for the other stuff :)
[23:01] <Daskreech> mandy558: type cd
[23:01] <Daskreech> tell me if it give you an error messge
[23:01] <mandy558> no error message
[23:02] <mandy558> but if i do sudo cd it says no command cd
[23:03] <mandy558> i mean command not found
[23:04] <Daskreech> mandy558: Right. Don't do sudocd ;)
[23:04] <Daskreech> mandy558: Now type pwd
[23:04] <mandy558> it still outpouts   /
[23:05] <Daskreech> mandy558: ha ok :) type ls -la /home | pastebinit
[23:06] <Joit> with the -b option
[23:07] <Daskreech> patebinit byitself doesn't work?
[23:07] <mandy558> http://pate.ubuntu.com/1088940/
[23:08] <mandy558> i mean paste in that adress
[23:08] <Joit> no, mandy, yes Daskreech you need -b http://url
[23:09] <Daskreech> mandy558: Fixed it already. can you type grep mandy /etc/passwd | pastebinit
[23:09] <Daskreech> Joit: Booo
[23:09] <Joit> use -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:09] <Joit> pste ubuntu will create the url
[23:10] <Joit> else pastebinit wont work
[23:10] <Joit> http://bigbrovar.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/looking-for-an-easy-way-to-pastebin-just-pastbinit/
[23:10] <Daskreech> Joit: Oh I guess that makes sense. She doesn't own anywhere that can create a default
[23:10] <Mandy089> sorry my chat session failed
[23:11] <Daskreech> Mandy089: ok did you get the last command I gave you?
[23:11] <Mandy089> no
[23:11] <Joit> yes, probatly, http://pastebin.com is the default
[23:11] <Daskreech> grep mandy /etc/passwd | pastebinit -b paste.ubuntu.com
[23:11] <Mandy089> what was it again? :)
[23:11] <TheLordOfTime> Joit:  if you're using pastebinit its default was paste.ubuntu.com ages ago
[23:11] <TheLordOfTime> since at least natty
[23:12] <Daskreech> TheLordOfTime: yes but she has no home directory so it can't create a config and so has no default is my guess
[23:12] <Joit> TheLordOfTime:  that what i got from the page :) i do not use it anyway
[23:12] <TheLordOfTime> Daskreech:  that's odd, i've used pastebinit without a home conf and its used paste.ubuntu.com...
[23:12] <Daskreech> TheLordOfTime: note the "is my guess" part
[23:13] <Joit> it is, because without -b it dosnt work for he
[23:13] <Joit> r
[23:13] <Daskreech> I have no idea how it actually works but it not providing a default automatically is strange
[23:13] <TheLordOfTime> sounds like a broken package version
[23:13] <Daskreech> Joit: correlation isn't causation
[23:13] <TheLordOfTime> are they in quantal or something?
[23:13] <TheLordOfTime> s/in/on/
[23:13] <Joit> but i tried the comand too after i installed pastebinit, and it did not work,
[23:13] <Joit> and my system is ok so far
[23:14] <Joit> i did need to use -b for a url
[23:15] <Mandy089> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1088949/
[23:16] <Mandy089> was the output
[23:17] <Daskreech> Mandy089: you login with a capital M ?
[23:18] <Mandy089> yeah
[23:18] <Mandy089> is that bad
[23:18] <Daskreech> No just checking somethings out
[23:19] <Mandy089> oh ok. good
[23:20] <Daskreech> Mandy089: alright type sudo chmod 700 /home/dommunoz01
[23:20] <Daskreech> then try login
[23:20] <Mandy089> what do you mean by login. is login a command?
[23:21] <Daskreech> Mandy089: No try getting through the GUI
[23:22] <Joit> gui - graphical user interface
[23:22] <Joit> means she need to start the xserver?
[23:22] <Mandy089> Oh still says. Cannot enter home directory. Using/.
[23:23] <Daskreech> Mandy089: type cd /home/dommunoz01
[23:24] <Mandy089> permission denied
[23:24] <Joit> i would either rename or remove the iceauthority file, yxou can craete it new with touch
[23:24] <Daskreech> Mandy089: you are logged in as yourself right?
[23:24] <Mandy089> yes
[23:25] <Daskreech> sudo chmod 777 /home/dommunoz01 then try cd /home/dommunoz01
[23:27] <Mandy089> ok that worked
[23:27] <Daskreech> hmm
[23:28] <Joit> mandy did you spell last time at the file ICEauthority with upper and lower letters?
[23:28] <Daskreech> Mandy089: ok sudo chmod 755 /home/dommunoz01
[23:29] <Mandy089> i did spell it with upper and lower case
[23:29] <Joit> still strange at all
[23:30] <Mandy089> Daskreech:: okay did the chmod thing again
[23:30] <Daskreech> Mandy089: now try login to the GUI
[23:30] <Mandy089> ok
[23:31] <Mandy089> I think its doing something
[23:31] <Joit> chmod - change file mode bits, means you set special rights on a file , like read (allowed), read write /allowed)
[23:31] <Mandy089> its slowly logging on
[23:32] <Mandy089> yep im in
[23:32] <Mandy089> is it permanantly fixed
[23:34] <Daskreech> Mandy089: Yes
[23:34] <Daskreech> Mandy089: Assuming that your rights on the files in your home directory haven't changed
[23:34] <Daskreech> You had lost the rights to enter your own directory
[23:35] <Mandy089> You guys are awesome :). I tried having my brother help me, because he had set it up. But he didnt know much about fixing it.
[23:36] <Mandy089> How did i lose the rights?
[23:36] <Mandy089> so i dont do something stupid again
[23:38] <Joit> mandy that can happen in more ways, do you maybe remeber what you did do at last?
[23:39] <Joit> installed or deinstalled something?
[23:40] <Mandy089> i was creating a drawing for my thesis. when i tried to save the program crashed. I then restarted the computer to see if that would fix it and thats when i couldnt login.
[23:40] <Daskreech> Mandy089: I can't tell you how you lostthem I just know they were gone
[23:40] <Daskreech> Mandy089: I can show you how it works if you like
[23:40] <Mandy089> Daskreech:: How does it work?
[23:41] <Daskreech> Mandy089: how much do you know about Unix File permissions?
[23:42] <Mandy089> not much
[23:42] <Daskreech> Alright well each file has three sets of permissions
[23:43] <Mandy089> ok.
[23:43] <Daskreech> Permissions for whoever owns the file permissions for anyone in the same group as the file and then everyone else in the world
[23:43] <Mandy089> How can these be changed
[23:44] <Daskreech> For each of those categories you can have three basic permissions. Ability to read the file ability to change the file and ability to run the file as if it is a program
[23:44] <Mandy089> hmm
[23:44] <Daskreech> in the GUI you can right click -> properties -> permissions
[23:44] <Daskreech> In the CLI you can use chmod
[23:44] <Mandy089> ok
[23:45] <Mandy089> when is it necessary to change permissions
[23:45] <Daskreech> When you want the permissions changed :)
[23:45] <Daskreech> it's just controlling who is allowed to do what
[23:45] <Mandy089> Oh ok.
[23:46] <Daskreech> now in your case you had lost the executable rights to your directory. When you execute a directory you enter it
[23:46] <Daskreech> Think double clicking on a folder in a file manager
[23:46] <Daskreech> so we added that back and now you can login
[23:46] <Mandy089> that makes since
[23:46] <Mandy089> so installing new programs can change this
[23:47] <Mandy089> or misusing a program in my case
[23:47] <Daskreech> Mandy089: they should not and very few can actually do so in anycase
[23:47] <Daskreech> Misusing a program may but again I'm not sure what sequence would lead to that
[23:48] <Mandy089> Me neither. A frien had showed me how to use a CAD program for diagrams. libreCAD. This is when it happened.
[23:48] <Daskreech> argh
[23:49] <Mandy089> should. i not use this program again. or reinstall it
[23:49] <Daskreech> Also neat. hadn't head of a Librecad. Hope it's partially decent
[23:49] <Daskreech> Mandy089: How did you install it?
[23:49] <Mandy089> I believe it came with kubuntu 12.04.
[23:51] <faglnar> I believe I came with kubuntu 12.04
[23:51] <faglnar> *duck*
[23:52] <Mandy089> nice
[23:52] <Daskreech> !info librecad
[23:52] <Daskreech> So it did
[23:52] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get remove --purge librecad && sudo apt-get install librecad
[23:53] <Mandy089> ok Ill do that now
[23:53] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get remove faglnar
[23:53] <Daskreech> :-)
[23:54] <faglnar> XD
[23:54] <Daskreech> Mandy089: hope that works out
[23:54] <Joit> you missed the -purge
[23:55] <Daskreech> Joit: I'm being nice
[23:57] <Mandy089>  it seems to be working
[23:57] <Mandy089> so what does the && in your last statement mean?