| hggdh | epikvision: I have heard of an issue on today's image, that should be resolved tomorrow | 00:16 |
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| hggdh | end result is what you described, so it is probably the same issue (some kernel settings/images have to be updated on the ISO) | 00:17 |
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| njin | can someone set bug 1023932 to critical (loss of data) for me ? (screencast attached) | 15:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1023932 in simple-scan "Simple Scan overwrite already saved files without advice (dup-of: 842076)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023932 | 15:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 842076 in simple-scan "Save button doesn't warn before overwriting existing file" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842076 | 15:24 |
| micahg | njin: that's an upstream bug that we don't control | 15:25 |
| njin | ok thanks | 15:25 |
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| LoT | this doesnt look like a bug to me... micahg, what do you think? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1023978 | 16:50 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1023978 in firefox "brouser no found site mail.ru" [Undecided,New] | 16:50 |
| LoT | looks more like a support request and not a bug | 16:50 |
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| LoT | hggdh: what do you think on that bug, support request or not? | 16:53 |
| hggdh | LoT: looking | 16:53 |
| hggdh | LoT: certainly. Please close invalid, and redirect to askubuntu or ubuntuforums | 16:54 |
| LoT | <offtopiccomment> why is it though that when something doesnt load inside of ffox they assume its an ffox bug... i've seen at least a billion similar things like this. | 16:54 |
| LoT | </offtopiccomment> | 16:54 |
| LoT | hggdh: i plan to :) | 16:54 |
| hggdh | LoT: that happens a lot, mostly with casual users: it does not work, it is a bug... | 16:58 |
| LoT | mhm | 16:58 |
| LoT | you'd be surprised how on AskUbuntu we've actually got questions saying "How to determine if $issue is a bug?" | 16:59 |
| LoT | and how often i'm having to resort to the bugsquad docs :P | 16:59 |
| hggdh | this was one of the reasons we started making it more difficult to open a bug. You can use apport to open a bug, but must know the road to open one manually | 16:59 |
| hggdh | perhaps it is time for me to be more active on askubuntu as well | 16:59 |
| LoT | hggdh: hehe, i wrote two canonical bugs questions | 17:06 |
| LoT | about statuses/lifecycles and about importance | 17:06 |
| LoT | there's already one about how to file a bug | 17:06 |
| LoT | and dupes of one about how to identify a bug | 17:06 |
| LoT | all of them link to the bugsquad docs :P | 17:07 |
| LoT | SPEAKING OF WHICH | 17:07 |
| LoT | we need to explicitly define the difference between core and non-core | 17:07 |
| LoT | i think i started a mini email chain about it a few months ago... | 17:07 |
| hggdh | ah | 17:07 |
| LoT | but it never went anywhere | 17:07 |
| hggdh | this is a good question: core as related to Ubuntu itself? Then we should have such a list; | 17:08 |
| LoT | because if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance you'll see core and non-core mentioned | 17:08 |
| LoT | but no list of what is considered core | 17:08 |
| * LoT therefore bases bug importances off of other criterion | 17:08 | |
| hggdh | now, by the user's perspective, there is also "core" -- whatever the user needs at this moment. So yes, we need to show what is what | 17:08 |
| LoT | agreed | 17:08 |
| LoT | first things first, are we defining core as what the core devs work on | 17:09 |
| LoT | secondly, if not, are we considering anything that ubuntu-desktop links to as core | 17:09 |
| LoT | thirdly, if not the 2nd one, what *is* core? | 17:09 |
| * LoT sees recommendations sometimes to get things marked for medium that dont count because of non-core vs. core | 17:10 | |
| hggdh | I think we could for a start. But I am pretty sure we will have disagreements, so it is probably better to fire off an email to ubuntu-devel | 17:10 |
| hggdh | oops | 17:10 |
| hggdh | now that is a different issue | 17:10 |
| hggdh | importance is relative to the package itself | 17:10 |
| LoT | hggdh: true, *BUT* | 17:10 |
| LoT | .Medium: Most bugs are of medium importance, examples are: | 17:11 |
| LoT | .A bug that has a moderate impact on a core application. .A bug that has a severe impact on a non-core application. | 17:11 |
| LoT | how do you define core and noncore in this instance? | 17:11 |
| LoT | as a moderate impact on non-core is Low | 17:11 |
| LoT | according to the docs | 17:11 |
| LoT | same page, under "low": .Bugs that have a moderate impact on a non-core application | 17:11 |
| hggdh | humph | 17:11 |
| hggdh | yeah, we really have to review this | 17:11 |
| LoT | 95% of what I see and act on is in nginx, and is usually low | 17:12 |
| LoT | or notABug | 17:12 |
| LoT | but we really need to define the core vs. noncore | 17:12 |
| hggdh | I agree | 17:13 |
| LoT | <offtopic> LOL someone made a playlist called "The Evil", and it contains my epic music xD </offtopic> | 17:13 |
| * hggdh got called in to get a hack done fast | 17:13 | |
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| LoT | how do we handle "freeze" bugs again? like these https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1023995 | 18:49 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1023995 in ubuntu "ubuntu 12.04 freezes up very frequently" [Undecided,New] | 18:49 |
| LoT | hggdh: still around? | 19:49 |
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