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ScottKpitti: Did the retracer die again?01:45
micahgBenC:  you might want to chat with Laney about the potential for ghc 7.4.2 in quantal before rebuilding the world again02:04
BenCmicahg: I'm speaking with erikd about the fixes so far02:05
BenCThis last build is final for me02:05
micahgBenC: I was referring to the no change rebuilds you uploaded (as any ghc update will require them to happen again)02:06
ScottKLaney's not top uploader for Quantal yet, so I'm sure he wouldn't mind rebuilding the world a few times.02:06
BenCmicahg: Ah, well, it was only an ABI rebuild for ppc, but yeah, I'm trying to handle the buildX uploads gently02:07
micahgwell, queue seems to be empty anyways, I thought he had the fix for armel as well which would mean we could do a full rebuild across the board02:08
micahgah, it's being worked on elsewhere I see :)02:09
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scientesdoes -dev package multi-arch work in quantal?02:39
scientescause i want to do this type of stuff https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/CrossCompile/FirefoxCrossCompile02:39
scientesmake my package support it02:40
RAOFscientes: Yes, as long as your -dev package is consistent across architectures.02:43
scientesbut not in precise?02:48
scientesi tried to install the build-deps and i couldn't even install libc6:armhf02:49
RAOFNot all -dev packages are multiarchable.02:50
scientesyeah, my package is multi-arch02:50
scientesbut i want it to be cross-buildable the multi-arch way02:50
RAOFInstalling libc6:armhf will require you to have the ability to execute armhf code.02:51
scientesonly if you want to run it02:51
scientesbut besides that i have qemu-user-static02:51
scientesjust using it to link against with the cross-toolchain included in ubuntu is a perfectly reasonable use-case02:52
RAOFNo, the dpkg triggers will run armhf code.02:52
RAOFie: installing it will attempt to execute armhf code.02:52
RAOFIf you've got qemu-user-static that should work, though.02:52
scientesoh, well i do have qemu-user-static installed02:52
scientesits failing on tzdata:armhf not installable02:52
RAOFI'm not sure why that's the case.02:52
RAOFlibc6 is certainly multiarch in Precise.02:53
RAOFAnd I've tested libc6:amd64 + libc5:i386; there's no obvious reason why libc6:armhf would be different.02:53
RAOFExcept for arm being crack, of course :)02:53
scientes libc6:armhf : Depends: tzdata:armhf but it is not installable02:54
RAOFHeh. libc6:amd64 + libc6:i386 :)02:54
scientes libc6:armel : Depends: tzdata:armel but it is not installable02:55
StevenKBut tzdata is arch all?02:57
scientesmaybe I need [arch=i386,amd64,all]02:58
micahghrm, tzdata is marked multiarch foreign, at least in precise03:00
TheMusoSame in quantal.03:01
micahgthis sounds familiar03:02
scientesi can't test "cross-compiling" to i386 either, cause there is no seperate compiler03:08
scientesbut anyways, i guess i can fix it to work, instead of not working03:08
scienteseven though few care03:08
ubottuDebian bug 613584 in apt "apt-get not handling Multi-Arch: foreign, Arch: all packages correctly" [Important,Fixed]03:10
OdyXpitti: thanks for the pyppd sync: letting uploads arrive "first" in Debian is very appreciated, really.!04:20
pittiScottK: yes, it did; restarted again, need to see what's upsetting gdb now04:20
pittiOdyX: makes things easier and better for everyone :)04:21
ScottKpitti: Thanks04:21
OdyXpitti: ^5!04:24
OdyXI should really put more time into making sure tkamppeter has the proper rights to do his foomatic-* uploads in Debian first; I'm yet to convince him.04:25
ScottKpitti: Can you perhaps prioritize what gets retraced next?  1023231 may relate to newly released hardware and I'd like to let upstream know about it ASAP if it does.04:32
pittiScottK: there are only some 30 bugs to retrace, that ought to finish in half an hour or less04:33
pittibut it seems the core dump in bug 1019781 makes gdb hang forever04:34
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1019781 could not be found04:34
ScottKpitti: ok.  It got through 6 of the i386 ones yesterday before it died again, so I wasn't optimistic.04:34
* pitti untags and restarts04:34
pitti07/12/12 04:32:04: retracing #1019781 (left in pool: 54)04:34
pittiok, 5404:34
ScottKAt least you've got a reliable test case now.04:35
pittiuntagged that bug and restarted; /me locally runs apport-retrace -S system -sv 101978104:37
pittiah, won't work, i38604:37
pittianyway, I'll look into it04:37
StevenKpitti: You'll have to blow the dust off your i386 chroot?04:40
pittiStevenK: I don't have one; fortunately apport-retrace makes it quite a bit easier to retrace an i386 bug on amd64 :)04:40
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pittiScottK: oh, it caught up on i386 now05:37
ScottKTrying to make sense of the backtrace now.05:42
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jussimorning all06:45
jussiwas there a decision taken to not make alternate cd's anymore ?06:45
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pittijussi: as soon as Ubiquity gets taught to handle LVM and encrypted partitions07:00
jussipitti: ahh, good, that woul have been my objection to dropping it :)07:00
dholbachgood morning07:04
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pittibdmurray: would it still be possible to set up http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/quantal-fixes-report.html ? I. e. can it scan the quantal-changes@ archives, or does it need to be subscribed from day 1?07:26
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apwi see gpg/ssh key timeout options have gone in quanta (are those from seahorse?), are they reenablable ?  security is going to be grumpy08:33
seb128apw, bug #987167 ?08:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 987167 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "unable to set gpg key timeout" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98716708:36
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mptev, fixed examples of "[Invalid UTF-8]" include bug 837246 and bug 874194; open examples include bug 874755, bug 841821, and bug 823649.08:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 837246 in Unity Foundations "User name shown as [Invalid UTF-8] in live session" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83724608:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 874194 in indicator-session (Ubuntu Oneiric) "indicator-session shows name as "[Invalid UTF-8]" for some users" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87419408:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 874755 in Ubuntu Translations "calendar "[Invalid UTF-8]" (encoding problem)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87475508:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 841821 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Color manager shows [invalid UTF-8]" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84182108:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 823649 in Ubuntu One Client "continuous "Invalid UTF-8" notifications" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82364908:53
evmpt: thanks! I'll have a look08:53
seb128how do the copies from quantal-proposed to quantal happen?08:55
seb128like unity in proposed seems ready to be copied08:55
seb128will that happen automatically? or should we ask for the copy? or just do the copy?08:55
cjwatsonseb128: It's all manual right now.  What set of packages need to be moved?09:01
cjwatsonAnd is the set that's on pending-sru complete and coinstallable09:02
seb128cjwatson, the set is "nux unity unity-2d unity-lens*"09:04
seb128cjwatson, it's at the bottom of the pending-sru, it's supposed to be complete if we didn't overlook something09:04
seb128cjwatson, what do you mean "coinstallable"?09:04
cjwatsonInstallable at once09:05
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cjwatsonWon't break upgrades, that kind of thing09:05
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cjwatsonI have no easy way to verify because we don't have tools :)09:05
pittihttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal-proposed_probs.html should give some good hints, though09:05
seb128ok, I was unsure how far the tool writing went so far09:05
pittithat says unity is uninstallable09:06
pittiwhich it isn't in quantal09:06
cjwatsonno, those are just NBS binaries09:06
cjwatsoncheck the version09:06
seb128pitti, "unity 5.12-0ubuntu4 produces uninstallable binaries: "09:06
seb128let me try in a vm to be sure09:06
pittiah, I see09:06
* seb128 fires virtualbox09:06
cjwatsonfires or fires up? :-)09:07
seb128fires up :p09:07
cjwatsonEnglish is such a wonderfully ambiguous language sometimes09:07
seb128@english: yeah ;-)09:11
udevbotError: "english:" is not a valid command.09:11
seb128cjwatson, pitti: ok, I booted yesterday's daily iso, enabled quantal-proposed, apt-get update && dist-upgrade goes well, everything is going to be upgraded, only libunity-core-5.0-5  is to be uninstalled09:11
seb128which is normal, everything got transitioned to the new soname09:12
seb128and the old lib doesn't work with the new unity09:12
seb128cjwatson, can we get the set copied to quantal? ;-)09:12
pittiseb128: sru-release -r quantal unity otherpkg ...09:13
cjwatsonIn progress now09:13
pittierk, /me notices a typo in --help09:13
pitti"Copy to release pocket instead of -proposed"09:14
pittithat should be -updates, fixing09:14
cjwatsonEr, no!09:14
cjwatsonOh, sorry, yes, you're right09:14
didrocksthanks cjwatson :)09:14
cjwatson(Sorry, my wife was talking to me at the same time, cognitive leakage)09:14
seb128cjwatson, thanks09:15
pitticjwatson: no worries :)09:15
pitti"Copy to release pocket instead of -updates", that's better09:15
seb128cjwatson, btw I did half a dozen test installs yesterday I never hit the ubiquity bug :-(09:16
cjwatsonMakes two of us.  Let's see what jenkins says today, I guess09:17
seb128yeah, once we get an iso ;-)09:18
* apw wonders if we are aware gvfs-mount -u has stopped working09:23
seb128apw, not that I know about09:23
* apw files a bug09:24
seb128is that quantal?09:24
seb128what error do you get?09:24
apwseb128, quantal yes: "Error finding enclosing mount: Containing mount does not exist"09:25
seb128what do you try to unmount?09:25
apwa usb stick09:25
seb128can you umount it?09:26
seb128or does that fail as well?09:26
apwi can unmount it from nautilus09:26
seb128hum, ok09:26
seb128could be an udisks2 fallout..09:26
* apw is suspicious its /run/media/ fallout09:27
seb128apw, how do you try to umount it? gvfs-mount -u /dev... or /mountpoint ?09:28
apwseb128, -u mountpoint09:28
seb128ok, that works on precise09:28
apwyep it worked on this machine before updating too indeed, and still does on my other box ->09:29
seb128I'm still on precise and I can't really test that in my vm, the usb stick mounts on the real box, not in the vm09:29
seb128I guess it's a bug for pitti ;-)09:29
apwseb128, pitti, bug #102381509:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023815 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfs-mount -u <mountpoint> fails: Error finding enclosing mount: Containing mount does not exist " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102381509:33
seb128apw, thanks09:33
pittiapw: thanks, will have a look at it09:38
seb128pitti, danke09:43
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pittiseb128: FYI, the i386 retracer hung again this morning, I untagged the bad bug and it caught up now10:11
pittiseb128: I can reproduce the gdb hang10:11
seb128pitti, thanks, do you know what in the bug lead to the hang?10:11
seb128oh, gdb bug, great...10:11
pittigdb is spinning with 100% CPU when calling it on the core dump10:11
pittiit's not even doing the bt yet10:12
pitti_llseek(10, 135168, [135168], SEEK_SET) = 010:12
pittiad infinitum10:12
apware we aware of some quantal indicator menus having back colours ?10:13
seb128apw, bug #101548810:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1015488 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu Quantal) "Wrong theme of indicators menu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101548810:15
* apw idly wonders how seb128 keeps all these bug numbers in his head10:15
apw(and thanks once again)10:15
seb128apw, I don't but the firefox awesome bar is called "awesome" for a reason ;-)10:15
apwheh that is awsome10:16
pittiseb128, ScottK: FYI, bug 102383510:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023835 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb hangs eternally when opening with upowerd core file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102383510:25
seb128pitti, thanks10:25
pittiev: ^ this might actually affect "your" retracers as well10:25
evpitti: ah, yikes10:26
apwcjwatson or pitti, can you recall what consumes the modules.*map files that depmod makes?11:09
cjwatsonapw: used to be hotplug stuff; depmod(8) says they're "largely deprecated"11:13
cjwatsonthough I wouldn't want to risk removing them without a thorough audit11:13
apwcjwatson, well kmod no longer makes them11:14
apwand htey have been off by default in debian since forever, as we carry a patch to turn them back on11:14
* apw removed them from his system and reboots, lets find out11:14
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cjwatsonI suspect it's probably OK11:15
apwwell my fairly 'standard' machine boots fine without them11:15
apwmost annoying to have this wrinkle else i'd be happy to say lets follow debian and switch11:16
* apw will do some wider testing next week with his team11:16
pittiapw: I'm not aware of anything that still uses them11:17
apwno i can't find anything in udev using them which would be my primary expectation11:17
pittiapw: there are now binary maps which greatly speed up dependency calculation, AFAIR11:17
* pitti needs to leave for some two hours, bbl11:18
apwpitti, yeah i suspect its done a differnet way now11:18
pittiapw: modules.dep.bin, presumably11:18
apwpitti, yeah that one i presume11:24
apwpitti, i assume hal used to use them11:25
apwcjwatson, any suggestions as to how one might review this?11:32
cjwatsonNot sure really.  I note that modules.*map here have atimes of 26 June11:34
cjwatsonWhich is a bit after their mtimes, but I think that corresponds to the time of my nightly backups shortly after they were created11:34
cjwatsonSo that suggests to me that they're unused here at least11:35
cjwatson(And in particular those atimes are considerably earlier than my last reboot)11:35
apwcjwatson, my *map atimes files on precise are all the same as the mtimes11:36
apwcjwatson, same on another box11:39
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cjwatsongema: No jenkins run with 20120712?12:13
cjwatson(Ubuntu desktop)12:13
gemacjwatson: babyface told me the images were late12:14
gemacjwatson: we have a problem with jenkins, it does not start jobs automatically12:14
gemacjwatson: if the images are ready I will start them manually12:14
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gemacjwatson: on their way12:15
cjwatsonYeah, they are, finished about an hour and a half ago12:17
gemacjwatson: ack, we will be starting things manually until we figure out why jenkins is not triggering the jobs12:17
gemacjwatson: if you see any obvious misses, just let us know12:17
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pittiapw: not sure what hal would have done with them, but if so, it couldn't be important13:13
BenCAny chance some one could process haskell-resourcet NEW for me, please?13:44
BenCLots of stuff dep-waits on that13:44
LaneyBenC: I advise you not to rebuild very much; 7.4.2 will be brought over soon.13:45
Laneyonce Erik commits a version of your patch, in fact.13:45
BenCLaney: I'm not rebuilding anything, just pushing the FTBFS queue13:45
Laneywell, that too13:45
Laneyit'll all have to be rebuilt anyway13:45
BenCWell, this NEW will need to be processed sooner or later13:45
BenCbest now before you crush a rebuild of everything, so nothing waits on it :)13:46
BenCSame for haskell-configurator13:46
cjwatsonBenC: Done13:56
cjwatsonIt's arguable which is best, since powerpc build time is a bit contended13:57
cjwatsonBut I would have done it at some point anyway if I hadn't seen this conversation, so :)13:57
BenCcjwatson: thanks13:57
dholbachmterry, could you join us in #ubuntu-arb? :)13:59
Laneysomeone else already did an uncoordinated rebuild bonanza anyway, so it probably doesn't matter that much14:00
BenCLaney: I'm going to leave haskell in your capable hands now…my goal of getting ghci working on ppc and having things build without errors is now complete14:03
BenCSo hopefully when you do 7.4.2, powerpc will be able to keep in sync14:03
Laneydid it get upstream?14:04
LaneyI note hackage is down …14:04
BenCI gave it to erik, I haven't sent it upstream...14:04
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dobeycan someone please accept ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-client into precise-proposed?14:24
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bdmurraypitti: oh, whoa sorry about that fixing now.14:50
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pittibdmurray: great, thanks!14:58
mterry@pilot in15:00
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mterryinfinity, heyo!  What pilot stuff are you working on?  (So I can avoid dup work)15:00
stgrabermterry: he's been piloting for days ;)15:03
mterrystgraber, ah, OK.  Poor man15:03
pittiprobably just forgot to remove himself15:03
pitti/nick infinity Amelia_Earhardt ?15:04
mterrymvo, I'm guessing https://code.launchpad.net/~evfool/synaptic/ancientfixes/+merge/93134 is fine now?  (You had requested fixes, they were made, but no re-review yet)15:07
hallynanyone else having trouble getting quantal apt-get update to finish this morning?15:08
jamespagehallyn, i *might* have seen something like that but I could not rule out flakey broadband15:10
hallynjamespage: i thought i couldn't rule it out, but at this point it's getting ridiculous15:12
mvomterry: yes, its on my todo since forever :(15:18
mterrymvo, OK.  :)  no worries, it's just the first item on the sponsoring report, so I thought I'd check it out15:19
mvomterry: i know :( I need to send evfool (and the synaptic users) a box of chocolate for leaving this idle for *so* long15:21
mterrymvo, I didn't realize you/Ubuntu had so much of a hand in synaptic upstream15:21
seb128mvo, hey, aptdaemo... oh, you did that, sorry I just got used to it :p15:21
mterrymvo, thought that was someone else's baby15:21
mterrymvo, you just love apt  :)15:22
mvomterry: I do :)15:22
seb128mterry, mvo is well famous for synaptic, he was a rockstar before Ubuntu even existed ;-)15:22
mvoseb128: haha15:22
mvoseb128: playing in front of a rather small audience, but still!15:22
seb128mvo, ;-)15:23
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jamespageSweetshark, what currency do you take bribes in?  I need to get a couple of changes into libreoffice for quantal...15:43
Sweetsharkjamespage: currency base unit is a removed C++11 ABI symbol in quantal ....16:00
jamespageSweetshark, oh joy16:01
jamespagedoes that mean we can't change it?16:01
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seb128bdmurray, hey, is there anything special in bug #927515 that you assign it to us?16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 927515 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird uses excessive cpu power" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92751516:18
Sweetsharkjamespage: na, just kidding (although there _are_ still issues with gcc4.7/C++11 stuff). what changes would you need?16:19
jamespageSweetshark, specifically bug 1023405 to support demoting tomcat6 to universe16:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023405 in tomcat6 (Ubuntu) "please transition libservlet2.5-java -> libservlet3.0-java and then demote tomcat6 source and binaries to universe" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102340516:19
jamespageSweetshark, and switching from openjdk-6 to openjdk-7 - I believe Debian has this in experimental ATM16:20
bdmurrayseb128: its a regression in a -updates package as I understand it16:20
Sweetsharkjamespage: I think both of it is already done, the package is just not in quantal because of the failing tests ...16:21
* Sweetshark checks16:21
seb128bdmurray, well, it's "some people seem to have some performance" issues, which was really never confirmed as a regression, and it was reported in february on tb10 and we are at tb1316:21
bdmurrayseb128: if its not confirmed as a regression then maybe the tag should be removed?16:22
seb128bdmurray, it might be a regression16:22
Sweetsharkjamespage: please verify with the package in https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases/16:23
seb128bdmurray, sorry, let's reboot that discussion, I meant to ask "did you assign the bug because the issue increased recently and is urgent, or did you just want to make it visible to us"?16:23
jamespageSweetshark, will do16:23
Sweetsharkjamespage: I see no openjdk, but fault-jdk, default-jdk (>= 1:1.7-48) [ia64]16:23
bdmurrayseb128: as a part of the SRU team I've subscribed to reression-update and regression-proposed bug reports.  So now I get email about comments on those bugs.  So somebody commented on it recently and I wanted to make it visible to you as there is no comment from the desktop team about it.16:24
Sweetsharkjamespage: hmm, but there is still libservlet2.5-java. I can give it a try with 3.0 though -- if that 'Just works(tm)' there is no issue.16:24
jamespageSweetshark, it should - there is no API change - I did take a look and it appears to parse stuff from commons-logging?16:25
seb128bdmurray, ok, thanks, I just wanted to make sure I don't overlook something when descoping that, it's there since february and hitting some users but it's a normal bug16:27
seb128bdmurray, I will untag16:27
jamespageSweetshark, I think the openjdk-7/default-jdk stuff looks OK - I will take a more thorough look tommorow16:32
jamespageservlet transition should be a no-change transition, i.e. packaging only16:33
bdmurrayseb128: is empathy applying for a micro release exception? bug 101878416:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1018784 in empathy (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU Precise] update to" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101878416:35
seb128bdmurray, empathy is part of GNOME16:35
seb128bdmurray, which has one ;-)16:35
ScottKHow is "GNOME" defined?16:39
stgraberScottK: the DMB has a definition for "GNOME" IIRC, I can try to dig that out16:40
ScottKI'm curious if it matches the MRE definition.16:40
stgraberScottK: http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets that's what we're using16:42
stgraberfor example for desktop-extra we used:16:43
stgraberCreate desktop-extra packageset with description "Every package that is NOT16:43
stgraber  in ubuntu-desktop, desktop-core or core, but needed for a vanilla GNOME.16:43
stgraber  Vanilla GNOME is defined by upstream in gnome-suites-core,16:43
stgraber  gnome-suites-core-deps, and gnome-apps:16:43
stgraber  http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets"16:43
stgraberI don't think the MRE is nearly as clear but I suppose it could be updated to use the same source of modules list16:44
ScottKProbably not a bad thing for when SRU team people like me run into a question.16:45
ScottKFor KDE it's https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde and websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/ (since not everything's in Git yet)16:46
infinitymterry: It's entirely possible that I've been piloting for a week.16:55
infinity@pilot out16:55
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mterryinfinity, :)16:56
SpamapSbdmurray: FYI, I missed my SRU shift yesterday, so I'm going to work backwards (hardy -> precise, newest -> oldest) for a couple of hours to try and avoid colliding with you :)17:08
cjwatsongema: Would there be any chance of adding /var/log/installer/debug to the jenkins test results for ISO testing jobs, when it exists?  I'll need that to debug bug 1023036 further.17:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023036 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Error on /usr/share/ubiquity/plugininstall.py", line 1687, affecting desktop images (preseeded install)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102303617:09
gemacjwatson: we'll look into it17:09
cjwatsonThanks.  I assume it's a fairly small change somewhere ...17:10
gemacjwatson: I am about to leave, but I will leave hggdh on the case17:10
cjwatsonThanks.  If possible it would be helpful if it could be done before the run that's going to start soon for the images I'm building right now :-)17:10
cjwatsonOnly just occurred to me.17:10
bdmurraySpamapS: bug 979661 was overridden by a security upload I believe17:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 979661 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "oneiric to precise: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome and falls back to Dialog" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97966117:11
ScottKSpamapS: There was a push for precise SRUs lookiing at 12.04.1, so you might want to start from one end of those.17:12
SpamapSScottK: indeed, I will, there's only a few in the older buckets anyway17:13
gemacjwatson: if not, we'll rerun them jobs, hggdh is on the case17:17
hggdhcjwatson: looking at it now, should have something in a few. I understand you would like the desktop jobs re-run ASAP with the debug log, correct?17:18
cjwatsonhggdh: Only if they've already picked up the build I just finished17:19
hggdhcjwatson: ack17:19
mterryThe latest python3 upgrade seems broken.  Is that a known issue?17:20
mterry"py3clean: error: only one action is allowed at the same time" breaks the python rtupdate hook17:21
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toabctlcharles, i'm trying to use dbus 1.6 on ubuntu 12.10 but the indicators are not shown (see #1014850). how can i debug the indicator stuff?18:25
dobeyis python3 3.2.3-2 failing to install for everyone else on quantal?18:31
charlestoabctl: none of the indicators are shown?18:40
toabctlcharles, i see some (datetime, message, sound)18:41
toabctland also "system" (i don't know the name). the one with the username (but my username is not shown. the user name is "User Name")18:41
charlesfun fun18:42
toabctlcharles, i tried to run: /usr/lib/libindicator/indicator-loader3 /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libpower.so18:42
toabctlcharles, then i get:18:43
toabctlcharles, and the indicator is visible in a window :)18:43
stokachuseb128: dbus-test-runner failing to build, looks like it needs a build-depends on dbus as well18:46
stokachusince the test cases require dbus running18:47
seb128stokachu, thanks18:47
stokachuseb128: sure thing, i was gonna do a mergeproposal if you'd like18:47
seb128stokachu, your call, I'm happy to just do it, it's not like it was hard work ;-)18:48
stokachuseb128: ill do it an re-test then give you a ping when its done18:48
stokachuhelps me keep track of +1 stuff anyway18:49
seb128stokachu, ok18:49
seb128stokachu, thanks18:49
charlestoabctl: the accessible description + atk-bridge lines aren't relevant to this...18:49
charles...but the "/bin/dbus-daemon: no such file or directory" sounds suspicious given what you're trying to do18:50
charlestoabctl: what are the relevant changes in dbus between 1.4.18 and 1.6?18:52
toabctlcharles, good question. i don't know18:53
toabctlcharles, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.dbus/1474018:53
toabctlcharles, btw: the global menu is not shown, too18:57
charlestoabctl: hooray! :/18:58
stokachuseb128: lol you went ahead and did it?18:59
stokachuto fast for me18:59
charlestoabctl: do you have a repo for 1.6?18:59
stokachuseb128: oh nm thats just depends18:59
stokachubah been staring out build outputs to long18:59
seb128stokachu, yeah, I was going to ask18:59
toabctlcharles, no18:59
seb128stokachu, I did add the depends because libindicate ftbfs18:59
stokachuseb128: ah ok19:00
stokachuseb128: i created the merge which explains what i did if you want to take a look19:00
stokachunothing major19:00
seb128stokachu, sure19:00
stokachucool thanks man19:00
toabctlcharles, i used the version from debian with some small modifications (copied upstart script, removed systemd build-dep)19:01
seb128stokachu, url?19:01
stokachuseb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~adam-stokes/ubuntu/quantal/dbus-test-runner/build-depends-dbus/+merge/11470419:01
stokachuseb128: and... if you got time i fixed aces3 build as well19:01
seb128stokachu, url? ;-)19:01
seb128stokachu, ok19:01
stokachusweet thanks a lot, ttyl19:02
seb128stokachu, small comment on the dbus-test-runner one, .1 is for SRUs, we just bump the number on dev series, i.e ubuntu1 -> ubuntu219:02
seb128stokachu, don't worry about fixing it, I'm doing that19:02
stokachuseb128: ah ok ill remember that19:02
stgraberBenC: I'm running a test build of libguestfs on powerpc, if it passes I'll upload the fix for bug 100299119:02
stokachuseb128: i kinda figured but wasn't sure19:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1002991 in libguestfs (Ubuntu Quantal) "Should be built on powerpc as well" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100299119:02
BenCstgraber: Thanks, let me know if I can do anything19:03
stgraberBenC: should that change also be applied to Debian? looks like we're in sync on libguestfs and I don't see a bug report on the Debian BTS19:06
BenCYeah, I'm bad about pushing bugs that deep19:06
BenCI'll do that today19:07
cr3what might be the reason for lintian to complain about missing-dependency-on-python-support for a python3 project which already specifies ${python3:Depends}?19:11
dobeycr3: the debian/rules is using dh_pysupport probably19:13
hallynroaksoax: hi, bug 799858 really wants to be SRUd, but i think it's been held up bc i haven't had the rights to upload the proposed fix to -proposed19:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 799858 in procps (Ubuntu Lucid) "package qemu-kvm-extras-static 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9.9 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79985819:14
roaksoaxhallyn: give me a sec and I'll upload it :)19:15
hallynroaksoax: would you mind taking a look at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/procps-e.debdiff and sponsoring it ifi t looks ok to you?19:15
hallynroaksoax: thanks19:15
hallyni was sure someone had done that for me in march.  but don't know where it went19:15
roaksoaxhallyn: looks good to me19:17
hallynroaksoax: hm, wait19:17
hallynroaksoax: i see it in the Rejected queue19:17
hallyndon't know why it was rejected19:17
cr3dobey: debian/rules seems clean, dh "$@" --with translations,python319:18
roaksoaxhallyn: "The fix itself looks ok, but I think the changelog entry needs work - specifically, it doesn't actually describe the problem it fixes at all. I've rejected it from the queue; please upload again with an expanded changelog entry (something like ‘fixes failure to install when $STUFF’)."19:18
roaksoaxhallyn: just update the description on the changelog and that should be it19:19
dobeycr3: postinstall script or something? check the build log to see if dh_pysupport is being run anywhere?19:19
hallynroaksoax: where did you see that msg?19:19
roaksoaxhallyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/799858/comments/2219:20
mterry@pilot out19:20
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ubottuLaunchpad bug 799858 in procps (Ubuntu Lucid) "package qemu-kvm-extras-static 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9.9 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed]19:20
hallynroaksoax: oh that's right, that's why i uploaded a new one to the bug.  guess that got lost19:23
roaksoaxhallyn: could you ellaborate more the fix on the changelog so it doens;t get rejected again please :)?19:24
hallynroaksoax: i'm going to claim that i already did that in the bug and it was ignored, but hold on, i don't like that one and am doing a new one19:24
cr3dobey: the postinst script uses #DEBHELPER# which is being replaced with something that contains: # Automatically added by dh_pysupport19:25
hallynroaksoax: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/procps-e2.debdiff19:25
cr3dobey: and, the generated debian/*debhelper.log contains dh_pysuppport; not sure where it's coming from though19:25
dobeycr3: is there a debian/pyversions file?19:27
ScottKcr3: Dehelper's automatic buildsystem selection19:27
cr3dobey: not sure if it matters, but I'm running debuild on precise rather than quantal19:27
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cr3dobey: no, just debian/pycompat containing: 219:27
ScottKIt doesn't know about dh_python3.19:27
ScottKI suspect if you add --with python2 (even if there's no python in it) that will go away).19:28
dobeycr3: you should probably remove that file if you're using dh_python2/319:28
cr3ScottK: really? I do have /usr/bin/dh_python3 and I'm using --with translations,python319:29
dobeyalso what ScottK said19:29
ScottKcr3: That doensn't say anything about how to deal with python code.19:29
ScottKbdmurray: There are a number of bugs like Bug #1024016  where the offending package is wrongly selected as python3-defaults.  Is there some way that could be automated based on the error message?19:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1024016 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "package python3 3.2.3-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102401619:30
cr3ScottK: will that ultimately mean that I'll also need to add ${python:Depends} in addition to ${python3:Depends} to my requires line?19:30
roaksoaxhallyn: done!19:30
cr3ScottK: cool, I'll give that a try then. thanks!19:30
ScottKdh_python2 just won't do anything.19:31
ScottKI think, I didn't actually try this.19:31
dobeyScottK: is there a way to workaround that bug? my quantal laptop is hosed at the moment with python3 failing to configure :-/19:31
ScottKDunno.  remove ubuntu-common-drivers and the apt-get -f install?19:33
cr3ScottK: when I changed --with python3 to python2, lintian returns lots of python-script-but-no-python-dep19:34
ScottKcr3: I didn't say change it, I said add it.19:34
cr3ScottK: heh, my mistake. trying again then :)19:34
cr3ScottK: now I get: missing-build-dependency-for-dh-addon python2 => python | python-all | python-dev | python-all-dev19:36
ScottKdidn't think about that.19:36
hallynroaksoax: thanks!19:37
ScottKAvoiding having any python installed at all will also solve it.19:37
cr3ScottK: I'll revert to the previous missing-dependency-on-python-support lintian error and try to document the problem; it's the only remaining warning/error returned by lintian, so doesn't seem that bad19:39
ScottKNo.  It's not.19:39
stgraberBenC: test build failed on the porter box. one of the tests failed. (when doing a test build of the precise version of libguestfs)19:39
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dobeyScottK: would "--buildsystem python3" not work on precise to fix cr3's issue?19:51
ScottKI don't think so, but it might.19:51
ScottKoverriding dh_auto_build definitely would.19:52
toabctlcharles, i added dbus 1.6 to my testing ppa: https://launchpad.net/~toabctl/+archive/testing19:52
cr3dobey, ScottK: I tried keeping --with python2,python3,translations and adding python, python3, python-distutils-extras, python3-distutils-extras, etc. in the Build-Depends; no more warnings19:54
tumbleweedthere is a python3 buildsystem in dh?19:54
toabctltumbleweed, there is dh_python319:56
cr3ScottK: I already had an override for dh_auto_build: set -ex; for python in $(shell py3versions -r); do $$python setup.py build; done;19:56
tumbleweedtoabctl: they are totally different things19:56
ScottKMaybe it's auto_configure that needs the overrid.19:56
ScottKcr3: Did you also run auto_build before or after that snippet?19:57
cr3ScottK: nope, but I've noticed apport call dh_auto_build and then python3 setup.py build19:57
ScottKYou don't need them both, as a rule.19:58
cr3ScottK: ok, that's reassuring. what do you think about having both python and python3 in build-depends though? seems to quiet lintian :)19:59
ScottKI think it's the wrong way to solve the problem.20:00
ScottKYou need to override debhelper's auto magic so it's not trying to build for python.20:00
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cjohnstonslangasek: ping20:21
stgrabertkamppeter: what's the status of bug 998156? you targeted it to the point release but I don't see any activity on it. Will it be fixed in the next few days and make it to the point release?20:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 998156 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GTK Print dialog sends broken custom page size attribute: "PageSize=Custom.Custom.<width>x<length>"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99815620:24
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xnoxstgraber: stop spamming me =)20:51
xnoxstgraber: I know that time is ticking away20:51
stgraberxnox: ;)20:51
highvoltagestgraber: keep spamming him, maybe he'll be less noisy20:51
* xnox punches highvoltage20:52
stgraberdon't worry I'm spamming everyone just as much, except for these that already have all their SRUs uploaded :P20:52
highvoltagehe nearly smacked me with that might beast of a laptop he has!20:52
xnoxstgraber: me tumbleweed and highvoltage are all sitting next to each other ;-)20:53
Laneyi heard it's raining over there20:53
tumbleweedjust a little20:53
tumbleweedwe're all taking shelter in the xen talk20:53
infinityIt's not raining, it just sounds like it is.20:53
infinityWe're going to send xnox outside to prove this theory.20:53
xnoxinfinity: you will get my toe in your face in 3, 2, 120:54
* xnox infinity says:"that's terrifying"20:54
infinityI'm going to be scarred for life.20:54
* stgraber spams xnox some more20:55
xnoxstgraber: lp is slow, didn't get the email yet20:55
* xnox waits20:55
highvoltagehmm, it should be pretty easy to port most "yo mamma" jokes to "launchpad" jokes.20:56
* highvoltage feels a new twitter account in the making20:56
infinityhighvoltage: Yo' webapp so fat, it gots its own datacenter?20:58
stgraberxnox: I have that feeling that whenever mdadm lands in -updates we'll suddenly see a quarter of the 12.04.1 bugs be closed at once ;)21:01
xnoxinfinity: LOL21:01
highvoltageinfinity: yo launchpad is so big that the long double numeric variable type in C++ is insufficient to express its weight21:02
BenCstgraber: Are the tests built-in to the package?21:04
BenCI'll attempt to get it running from my box21:04
stgraberBenC: yeah, all I did was run debuild21:05
cr3hi folks, how could we go about removing hwdb-client from universe since it's been deprecated for quite a while now21:09
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stgraberScottK: Can I assign bug 991754 to you and mark fix commited? I believe it's part of that postfix SRU that got in this morning.21:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 991754 in postfix (Ubuntu Precise) "Add support to turn off the TLSv1.1 and TLSv1.2 protocols" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99175421:51
ScottKstgraber: Sure (and it is)21:51
hggdhcjwatson: I know it is late, but are you still there? I cannot see how to save the Ubiquity debug log you asked for (at least 'd-i early-command httpd' seems to fail with "sh: httpd not found"22:04
hggdhand all I can find on it suggests one has to manually copy over the /var/log/installer/*22:05
ScottKThose python3-defaults fails to configure bugs are python3-defaults after all.22:16
ScottKI just uploaded half the fix.  Waiting to here from POX on the rest.22:16
ScottKThe affected packages are going to have to be rebuilt.22:16
slangasekcjohnston: hi there22:19
cjwatsonhggdh: that seems like kind of a d-i-ish approach; live filesystems don't have apache2 installed ...22:23
hggdhcjwatson: how to save it, then? It was indeed a d-i-ish approach :-)22:24
hggdhthe only one I knew how to do, and the Ubiquity docs do not clearly state as, ah, wrong22:24
cjwatsonhggdh: I guess maybe you could apt-get install apache2 instead?  it should automatically start then22:24
cjwatsonthough you'd have to configure a site that let you download stuff from /var/log22:25
hggdhcjwatson: I will see this one (although is starting to get more complex, and may cause spurious errors); I will also try SSH22:26
cjwatsonthe latter might be easier, yeah22:27
hggdhcjwatson: thanks, and sorry to bother22:27
cjwatsoncan't you use the same approach that works for /var/log/syslog?22:27
cjwatsonOr is that via some kind of magic one-use-only channel?22:28
hggdhcjwatson: /var/log/installer/syslog is tied to the serial console; perhaps I could open a second serial22:28
hggdhthen yeah, it would be quite simple22:28
cjwatsonworst case, it wouldn't be awful to conflate the two logs just for the time being22:29
cjwatsonalthough it would be better to have something that could be used permanently22:29
hggdhindeed. But you need it ASAP, so I will see if a second serial is easily set, otherwise I will just conflate them22:30
cjohnstonslangasek: you still around?22:59
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slangasekcjohnston: ish23:12
cjohnstonslangasek: two things.. have you come up with some sort of wording for the 'required' stuff in LP/Summit... and.. We need someone who is good with writing algorithms to help us write one for scheduling to take into account certain things like we discussed... any suggestions on anyone who may be able to help?23:26

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