[08:58] <Laney> hello!
[08:58] <Laney> How do new channels get registered?
[08:58] <Laney> Mainly I want to get the log bot and ubottu.
[09:01] <DJones> For ubuntulog you need to send an email to <rt AT SPAMFREE ubuntu DOT com> to open a support request
[09:02] <Laney> pretty sure it needs to be registered first though?
[09:03] <DJones> Give me a sec, there's a good page on registering channels, just need to find the link
[09:05] <Laney> back in a bit.
[09:05] <DJones> Laney: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels
[09:14] <AlanBell> Laney: what is the channel name?
[09:15] <DJones> I get the impression that the channel hasn't been registered yet
[09:16] <AlanBell> sure, but it can exist before it is registered
[09:16] <DJones> True
[09:16] <AlanBell> and the name can be a twinkle in Laney's eye well before it gets created ;)
[09:16] <DJones> :)
[09:46] <Laney> AlanBell: #ubuntu+1-maint
[09:46] <Laney> am I supposed to do this registration or can IRC people handle it?
[09:46] <Laney> I'm not massively interested in owning it …
[09:46] <AlanBell> woah, totally missread that as #ubuntu+1-mint
[09:48] <jussi> lol
[09:48] <AlanBell> staff, can I have ops in #ubuntu+1-maint to register it please
[10:19] <Tm_T> I wonder what's this new channel for
[10:20] <Laney> 12/07 11:20:08 -!- Topic for #ubuntu+1-maint: Maintenance of the next Ubuntu release | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlusOneMaintenanceTeam
[10:21] <Tm_T> hmm, different from +1 is that it's strictly packaging related channel?
[10:22] <Laney> it is a developer channel, yes
[13:51] <nhandler> AlanBell: You should be all set. Sorry for the delay
[13:54] <Tm_T> huzzah
[14:00] <AlanBell> thanks nhandler
[17:01] <genii-around> So there's no lubuntu-ops-monitor or so?
[17:03] <Unit193> Nor xubuntu.
[17:06] <genii-around> Unit193: OK, just wondering!
[17:07] <Unit193> Aye, and it's good.
[18:05] <Laney> AlanBell: all sorted from your end?
[18:05] <AlanBell> Laney: give or take
[18:06] <Laney> should I RT it up?
[18:06] <AlanBell> yeah, go on, we will run with that for now
[18:06] <Laney> ta
[18:07] <AlanBell> there is a possibility that it might be better off in #ubuntu-*
[18:07] <AlanBell> but as we have to sort out #ubuntu+1 anyhow lets run with where it is for now
[18:07] <Laney> moving it would be a pain in the bum
[18:07] <AlanBell> yeah I appreciate that
[18:07] <Laney> could we just register it 'unofficially'?
[18:07] <Laney> outside of that group namespace business
[18:08] <Pici> We'd need to get everyone out of the channel to do that.
[18:08] <Pici> Which is often troublesome.
[18:08] <Laney> to register it?
[18:09] <Laney> or to move it
[18:09] <Laney> RTed
[18:09] <Pici> To register it.
[18:09] <Laney> it's already done.
[18:09] <Pici> oh
[18:09] <Pici> I misunderstood, ignore me ;)
[18:10] <Laney> I'm just asking if we can opt out of the bureaucracy
[18:10] <Laney> it's probably to protect rogue people registering #ubuntu-* channels
[18:10] <AlanBell> I registered it with chanserv and set up the list
[18:11] <AlanBell> we can't opt out of the beurocracy for channels that start with #
[18:11] <AlanBell> but we can beg for a bit of time and forgiveness as the group registration system isn't operational at the moment
[18:12]  * Laney wibbles
[18:47] <Myrtti> Laney: historically it was for your own good, if the Founder of the channel goes the winter way, then if the channel is not in the official namespace, and the channel reverts to freenode-staff, it has been somewhat troublesome to establish the proper ownership of the channel if the naming isn't clear and in the right namespace
[18:47] <Myrtti> and it would make things a lot easier if you would have picked another name for it, for example #ubuntu-next-maint or #ubuntu-grumpy-maint or #ubuntu-groundhog-maint or whatever
[18:48] <Myrtti> s/would make/would have made/
[18:48] <Laney> wasn't me wot picked it.
[18:48] <Laney> I guess AlanBell added the IRC council team wotsit to the access list though, so any bus factor concerns should be dealt with
[18:48] <Myrtti> I wasn't talking about you personally, but about you as a collective and people running it
[18:49] <Laney> probably, but most people aren't as well versed with the rules as you folk
[18:50] <Myrtti> yes, I know, which is why it would have been nice if this channel and/or council would have been consulted before making the channel
[18:50] <Myrtti> and this is my opinion personally
[18:51] <Laney> So the reserved namespace is useful if you want to be able to take over channels for whatever reason
[18:51] <Myrtti> yup
[18:51] <Laney> but when it's registered properly then I don't see why the name matters
[19:56] <AlanBell> Laney: it isn't the end of the world, but we try to keep things tidy and avoid extra work for ourselves and freenode, in this instance it helped us discover some stuff we should already have done really
[19:57] <Laney> ok then
[19:57]  * Laney fades away
[19:57] <Laney> thanks for the help